Cousin Kate ~ Georgette Heyer ~ 10/99 ~ Romance
sysop
October 7, 1999 - 06:47 am
Welcome
to the
Romance Book Discussion!














by Georgette Heyer




From a Reader (who ranked the book 5 stars): As exempliefied in the works of Victoria Holt, Heyer also had the gift to produce an intriguing plot of mystery and suspense at the forefront of a melodrama. "Cousin Kate" appeared to promise a little romance, due to Heyer's well-known "romance" signet. Unconventionally, it became a suspensful masterpiece of uncommonly 'dark' principle characters with an unusually 'dark' and tragic ending. All in all, the perils of the heroine and the thrill of her investigative thoughts, (to escape from strange relatives and survive her parentless life), made this novel a very well written suspense. The plot respectfully evolved from the 'noir' genre.

Please read the book and join us in the discussion which begins on October 19. Everyone is Welcome.

Shirley Scharnoski was your Discussion Leader.






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Petite One
October 7, 1999 - 05:04 pm
Doesn't that intro sound intriguing? Got a copy yesterday and have started reading.

Again, Larry has done a great job setting this up for us. Thanks Larry.

Petite One
October 12, 1999 - 04:05 pm
Finnished the book this morning after breakfast. Oh, Joan, I hope you can get into this story. I found it very interesting as I'm sure others will too. Feel free to post any comments you want prior to our discussion. I'll be gone the rest of the week on a mystery trip but enjoy yourselves.

Petite One
October 17, 1999 - 05:54 pm
Well I'm back and I'm ready to talk. I hope you are ready too. Everyone is welcome to join in when you can or lurk and enjoy. We do hope you will put in your comments.

As I said, I did enjoy the story much more than I expected to do. Wasn't Kate lucky to have an aunt to rescue her from a poor life? Can you think of anything else she could have done to earn a living? When did you suspect Aunt Minerva had ulterior motives?

Petite One
October 23, 1999 - 01:03 pm
I'm very lonely in here. All by myself. What happened to everyone? Three of you said you had the book and two were readin it. Where are you?

mem
October 23, 1999 - 06:47 pm
Georgette Heyer is one of my favorite authors! It's been years since I read Cousin Kate, but I'll gladly read it again, so that I can join the discussion. G. Heyer also wrote mysteries, such as, Footsteps in the Dark and Detection Unlimited. These were set in more modern times. But, back to Cousin Kate, where I'm about to begin Chapter IV. More later....

SpringCreekFarm
October 24, 1999 - 02:21 pm
Hi Shirley and Mem! I've been to visit our son's family in Illinois and did not realize you had selected Cousin Kate. I'm delighted to join you, but first I need to finish Mother of Pearl, an Oprah book club selection. I should manage this in a day or two. See you in a couple of days! Sue

Petite One
October 24, 1999 - 04:00 pm
Oh, Mem, how nice of you to join us. Welcome to you. Sue, nice to have you back again. I didn't know you were out roaming our great country. Will gladly wait for both of you to read.

Mem, I note you are from PA. I was there last week enjoying your fall color which was at peak. I posted a message in the PA folder about the trip. #317 I believe.

SpringCreekFarm
October 26, 1999 - 08:50 am
I finished Mother of Pearl, an interesting, but complex book, and started Cousin Kate yesterday.

This is not my favorite Georgette Heyer novel, but Kate is the kind of spunky, independent Heyer heroine I most admire. I've read 8 chapters now. I like the way Heyer develops characters through conversation and thoughts of other characters. I am very suspicious of Aunt Minerva and the unanswered letters to Sarah. What do you think? Sue

Petite One
October 26, 1999 - 03:53 pm
The unanswered letters to Sarah are a definite warning of trouble. I like to try to figure out where an author is going with the story and since this is a new author for me, I began to see a number of paths the story could take. However, Georgette Heyer went her own way.

mem
October 26, 1999 - 07:31 pm
Shirley, I'm happy to hear you enjoyed the PA foliage! I haven't found the PA folder where your message is. Cousin Kate is spunky but a bit out of her depth with creepy(despite her acting the generous aunt) Aunt Minerva. Sarah must be worried for obviously she hasn't received any of Kate's letters. It's not as though poor Kate could walk out to the corner and post her own letters! And how about the dead rabbit in the woods? Is that Torquil's doing? Well, better get back to the book.

mem
October 26, 1999 - 08:06 pm
Shirley, I finally did find your two messages in the PA folder. It sounds like a great trip! I have friend in Wellsboro but probably haven't been there in 15 years. I live closer to Valley Forge.

Ginny
October 27, 1999 - 05:35 am
Hey, MEM! I'm from Bucks County, myself, originally, born in Philly, and spent many a Sunday at Valley Forge as a child and Washington's Crossing where I kept saying Washington in the painting was going the wrong way. Everybody shushed me, and now look! He IS going the wrong way in the painting! hahahahah

Glad to see you here!

Ginny

mem
October 29, 1999 - 12:02 pm
Well, this became quite a "page turner" near the end. How sad! But, of course, our heroine came out on top and the hero was there to console her. What's next, Shirley? Ginny, I got a kick out of Geo. Washington going the wrong way!

SpringCreekFarm
October 29, 1999 - 12:33 pm
Throughout the book, Heyer is pointing us toward the tragic finale. We see glimpses of Torquil's madness and Lady Broome's obsession on almost every page. Despite the author's attempts at misdirection toward Phillip, most readers can anticipate the grisly ending. As I said at the beginning, Cousin Kate is not my favorite Heyer novel, but Kate does come to a satisfactory end with the hope of "happily ever after". Sue

Petite One
October 29, 1999 - 06:03 pm
Mem, so glad you found the PA site. Hope you have added it to your subscriptions and join in the fun they have there. Maybe even join them for a luncheon

Do either of you have any comments on the phrases used such as "knock-in-the-cradle" found on page 18. And one of the menus was capilotade of ducklings and ended with a dish of peud'amours. What were they eating?

What's next? Talk a little more. Read another book. Check in here every other day or so. In two weeks, there will be a gathering of bookies in Chicago and I will be going for an overnight. Some will be there for a week or so.

Ginny, can you put a clickable here for these lovely ladies to read what is going on there? Thank you so much.

I haven't really thouht about the next book yet. Am trying to read different authors each time so we can try out new ones.

Almost forgot. On page 235, she used the word "ain't". I thought that wasn't a word until the 1940's. I remember my sister having a fit about kids (which was a new word too at that time) using "ain't". Did I catch an error? Love to find mistakes like that.

Ginny
October 30, 1999 - 04:54 am
Shirley, your wish is my command! Just saw your arrival time, now you timed that PURPOSELY to miss our DL's meeting sitting on my bed because you didn't want to sit 14 to a bed, did you!?! hahahahhahah

That's OK, will take you any way we can get you, and are grateful you're coming at all, eyes will be peeled on the doorway awaiting your arrival. Expect a hug!

Here's the place to read about Chicago, it's not too late to join us! Book Groups Trip to Chicago, 1999

Ginny

SpringCreekFarm
October 30, 1999 - 11:49 am
Shirley, in my paperback, I can't find "knock-in-the cradle". I think this term is similar to "dicked-in-the knob" which I think means mentally disabled in some way. Heyer was big on using "cant" or slang of the times about which she wrote. I wonder if some of those Heyer web sites might have fuller explanations? Sue

Petite One
October 31, 1999 - 03:50 pm
Ginny, just like in PTA or Home and School, the ones who should be there, aren't.

Sue, I had read that she used a lot of cant but didn't get to explore more than one or two websites. I wonder if someone from England would know. I'll e-mail a friend and see if I get an answer.

Well, must be getting old. I went off to email Betty and forgot to post this message. Talk about senior moments!

Petite One
November 5, 1999 - 04:19 pm
Well, Betty didn't know the meaning of the expression and I do think you are right, Sue, in that it means "mentally disabled".

Are we done discussing this book? Not much said about it.Ready to start another? How about soething real easy to carry us thru the rest of the year and the holidays? Then we can start the new millinium with a really good book? Are there any Danielle Steel fans out there? She has written over 40 books and we should be able to find something we like well enough to carry us along for awhile. Please let me know your thoughts on this author and abook you like. I did a search on her and found her books listed in chronological order with dates for hard cover and paper back. Stopped at neighborhood library and they have many of her books on the shelves. Waiting to hear from you.

SpringCreekFarm
November 5, 1999 - 07:54 pm
I have access to many of her books at my public library. However, she's not one of my favorites. If she becomes the author of choice, I will read it anyway. Maybe it'll be a title that appeals to me. Sue

mem
November 6, 1999 - 12:51 pm
D. Steel is definitely not my cup of tea. How about a Maeve Binchy? Or, I just finished a good book, Picking Up the Pieces by Mary Sheepshanks. It's about a 56 year old widow. This is a paperback from a series called Rosamunde Pilcher's Book Shelf. But whatever you decide, Shirley, I'll give it a try!

Petite One
November 7, 1999 - 04:20 pm
Bless you both for being willing to read an author you really don't care for.

I asked the secretary of the book discussions to send out a notice that we are considering Danielle Steele so will be waiting to see what others have to say if anything.

With the holidays coming up, many will be busy shopping, baking, and spending time with family that they won't be visiting with Sr Net that much or reading either. So we will wait to see what happens.

I too am reading a good book by an author we have discussed before. It is "A Kingdom of Dreams" by Judith McNaught.

We did do Rosamunde Pilcher but I'm sure we will do another one of hers next year. Will add it to my listfor discussion. Meanwhile, keep reading and check back often. And speak anytime. Or write?

Petite One
November 14, 1999 - 05:51 pm
Just a few brief hours in Chicago for me but what a wonderful time we had at our luncheon. Talked to several ladies and got more romance authors names.

Sue and Mem, did you get an email from Pat W re discussion of anielle Steele? Are you both on her mailing list? I didn't see your names on the email she sent out but she says she sends several lists. Hope you both are on a list. If not, let me know and will see that you are included in the news for the Bookies.

Hoping to hear from a few more readers about Danielle Steele.

SpringCreekFarm
November 14, 1999 - 07:37 pm
from Pat W. Have you chosen a book? I'm trying to read Absalom, Absalom by William Faulkner. I've read the two biographies about him. This is a tough book, so I'll welcome something easy if I can find it at my little library. Sue

Jerelyn
November 15, 1999 - 07:27 am
I`ve read a couple of Daniell Steel`s books, and still have one to read I received as a gift. But she is not one of my favorite authors either. I haven`t been here in awhile, but I am still reading. I`m reading a book of Cassie Edwards right now. Read Sandra Brown`s book "Alibi" a mystery to and it was good. I`ll keep checking and see what you all pick.

mem
November 15, 1999 - 11:05 am
Shirley, I think I'm on Pat's list because I received her Halloween bulletin, but nothing since then. Happy to hear you had a good time in Chicago!

Petite One
November 16, 1999 - 06:12 pm
I talked to Pat in Chicago and she said her messages always contain a message that you can be deleted from her mailing if you don't want to get the emails. I will suggest she add your names to her list so you get the latest word on book discussions.

Will stop at library tomorrow and take a look at SILENT HONOR which I think will be the next book we discuss and the author is Danielle Steele. Will let you know for sure in a few days. It is her latest book.

SpringCreekFarm
November 16, 1999 - 06:19 pm
Shirley, I'll check with my library to see if they have a copy of Silent Honor. Pat sent me an e-mail and I think I'm now on her list. Thanks. Can you tell us a little about Chicago? Sue

Joan Liimatta
November 21, 1999 - 07:39 am
Good grief.....I somehow lost my subscription to this site and thought you all were sleeping through October and November! I completely missed Cousin Kate, but now think I will try to get into it as you all liked it so well. I don't know how I got off the subscription list, but should have gone looking. As it was, it has been an unbelieveably busy fall for me.

I have read many of Danielle Steel's novels. Some of her earlier ones I liked quite well, but most of her recent ones are not very good. However, she is a quick read....and I think that is what we need right now.

Shirley....it was great to meet and talk with you in Chicago! Yes, we hashed over quite a few authors at the luncheon.

Well, must post and subscribe right now....so I don't lose you all again!

Northern Joan

Petite One
November 21, 1999 - 04:24 pm
Oh Joan, so good to see you posting here again. When you asked about Georgette Heyer, in Chicago, you looked so surprised that we had already discussed it. Now we know why - you lost your subscriptions.

I had trouble here the other night as I was logged in as a guest and could not post at all. Got message from Webmaster that SrNet was down. But up now. So much to catch up on.

Sue, Chicago was great. I was only there on Sat. for the luncheon but got to meet so many people from the book discussions. Joan was at our table so was able to talk to her a little more.There are several places around where talk is going on - Lifestyles - Seniors view of the future is one. Certainly under books, Chicago. Also in Photos then and now #18, you will see pictures. Maybe Jaywalker posted in Gratitude Journal under Writing, Language, and Word Play. But the hotel where we were booked into and had a luncheon planned was condemned just before we got there so there was a scramble for rooms. All got a room except for Sat.night so some drove home, flew home or as I did, took the bus home. Others found a room and doubled up. Joan was staying in Chicago for an Elderhostel the following week. Where did you stay? There was a luncheon at the Chicago Historical Society and they met Studs Terkel, a Pulitzer Prize winner for The Good War which is being discussed here too.

On Sat. we exchanged little momentos from our towns/cities and also had a grab bag of a better gift from our area. Also had play money to bid on donated prizes from the sponsers. They were auctioned off by Theron who did an excellent job. Could say so much more but will leave you with this thought. Join us next year.

Joan Liimatta
November 21, 1999 - 07:48 pm
Hi Shirley....I have resubscribed so hope it stays! I stayed with Betty Henderson (Hendie) on Saturday Night. She was most gracious in taking in a roomie....and we did enjoy our stay together.

Northern Joan

Petite One
November 29, 1999 - 03:53 pm
Have all of you found the new discussion? Hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving and can find a few minutes to read and discuss SILENT HONOR.

patwest
November 29, 1999 - 06:28 pm
-Romance: Silent Honor --- click here