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September 8-12, 2010
Everyone is invited!
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Autumn in New York, (are you singing?) What could be finer?
Based on the resounding success of our 10th Anniversary Gathering in NYC in 2008, we thought we'd try it again!~
Our Hotel: The Leo House: "The Little Heart in the Big City," with the best rates you'll find anywhere.
Hotel Information and Rates (http://www.seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/leohouse.html)
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Garden at the Leo House
If you are a Latin student, come meet some of your classmates, for a fun filled day or weekend:
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Classics Students at the Met, NYC 2008
Tentative Schedule:
Here's a loose schedule for Sept 8th thru Sept 12th:
Sept 8th-Day 1--Contact: Ann [/email] for details. Ann plans for us to meet at the Fraunces Tavern Museum at 3pm. When the museum closes at 5pm, meet downstairs in the Fraunces Tavern for drinks and dinner. This is where George Washington and his generals met after or during the Revolution. http://www.frauncestavernmuseum.org/ (http://www.frauncestavernmuseum.org/)
Sept 9th thru Sept 12:
Day 2--LucyLibr--plans a cruise on the Hudson. Contact: Lucy [/email] for details.
Day3--Alf is planning a Surprise! Contact: Andrea [/email] for details.
Day 4--Pedl'n plans a day at the newest NYC park, the High Line. http://www.thehighline.org/ (http://www.thehighline.org/) Contact: Pedln [/email] for details.
Day 5- Ginny will plan something at the Met and a luncheon for the Latin students, everyone is invited, just like last time. Contact: ginny [/email] for details.
Day 6-: Travel Day: Monday the 13th: Departure
Other possible venues include: a day at the Botanical Gardens (http://www.nybg.org/) or a history tour of NYC environs. A Broadway Show, opera, concert, tea at the Plaza, the Algonquin (home of the RoundTable) etc., etc., etc.
New!!
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to our First Ever Author Tea at Sarabeth's on Central Park between 5th and 6th Avenue: This is our room! (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/Sarabethsskylightroom.jpg)
Join us on September 11 in this award winning restaurant looking out on the Park for one of their famous Teas, at less than half price, $10 only, no tax, and enjoy meeting our authors, Bruce Frankel, and Maryann McFadden:
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"I can think of no writer I'd rather have sing me songs of the sea, even sad ones, than Maryann McFadden."---Anne Rivers Siddons
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Bruce Frankel’s book, What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life is inspirational! "This upbeat, inspiring, timely book shows how taking a risk and fighting to find a passionate career — at any age — can reinvigorate your life...”— Susan Shapiro Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM) today to secure your place at the table! We have only a few seats left!~ Don't miss this one!!
See information about reservations at the LEO HOUSE (http://www.seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/leohouse.html). Deadline to reserve your accommodations is June 15!
Questions about the gathering? Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM)
As a New Yorker would say, "What's not to like?"
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Thanks, Ginny, for putting this wonderful site together. You did a great job.
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I'm glad it suits and it can be changed at a moment's notice to accommodate everybody. You and your team have it wonderfully organized already!
I'm getting a lot of people writing about accommodations and even tho this is short notice (I love spur of the moment things, just get up and GO!) it appears we'll have a great group, so come one, come all, and let's plan our time.
Come, Readers, come, Latin Students, come, anybody on SeniorLearn. This is a spur of the moment sort of informal weekend in NYC. We'll start planning a major Bookfest for 2011 when we get back; this one is a mini break in the city which never sleeps and is ready and waiting for us.
I love planning a trip. You get two trips, the one you planned and the one it turns into. Often nothing like each other. hahaha
But the greatest city in the world is more than ready for us. NYC here we COME!
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Here we come, indeed! Who else will join us? We have so many wonderful people at SeniorLearn that I am just dying to meet. How can we tell you how wonderful it is to be able to share memories, stories and conversation with another "bookie?"
It brings us all (who share secrets online that we would never tell another soul) so much clooser.
Please think about it and let us know that you can come and join us for a few days.
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I'm really excited about getting together -- our past "soirees" have been so terrific.
About the schedule -- the dinner at the Fraunces is really an event, something that no one will want to miss. Might we want to consider another day other than our arrival day -- some folks might not arrive in time.
Two suggestions here -- 1. Highline Park is certainly not an all day, not even an all afternoon, event -- that would be a light day and would be a good time for a meal at the Fraunces.
2. The Circle Cruise around Manhattan starts and finishes downtown --- I think?? Unless we're all totally zapped by the fresh air dinner that night might also be a possibility.
We're currently talking 5 nights at Leo House. Some might be reluctant to add another night for the sake of dinner.
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You're quite right, Pedln - that was my problem : the dinner at the Fraunces taking an extra night. I didn't see how I could get away for even the four nights until my son volunteered to take a few vacation days to come stay with his Dad who really can't be left on his own anymore. I'll be coming in on Thursday and can stay through Sunday. If the dinner is changed to another night as Pedln suggests, that would be nice indeed. I am SO looking forward to this "soiree"!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'll just say I am delighted you came up with this idea and I'll be seeing you all again, even if most of the plans will be toward downtown, which takes me a while to get to. This will be a good occasion to go see the High Line with all of you. Haven't been to Fraunces Tavern in maybe 20 years. Can't remember what you all did last time since I just joined you for the Museum outing, as proven by my picture in this issue, and this picture has Ginny too (I'm the one getting in Ginny's way). The ones I have from that time don't have Ginny in them.
Just got this issue, so haven't thought anything up to add yet, but will definitely join you in as many things as I can.
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Zulema! Wonderful to see you again, what fun we had the last time, you are such a hoot!
I am just delighted by the response to our letter, and we have quite a few Latin students coming now, and they are all enthusiastic about our plans posted here, so it should be a blast!
I hope everybody who is going will come in and post so we can get an idea and plan better.
I am so excited about this new and different sort of Gathering and very grateful to Ann and everybody else who is picking in to help. We really need all hands on deck.
I'll take Day 5, Sunday, we can plan something for the Latin students of interest to all, with everybody else invited as well.
I just realized yesterday that we'll be there during 9/11, I do hope that won't mess up the reservations, I'll find out tomorrow morning. There will probably be a ceremony at the site of the World Trade Center.
EMAIL ME IMMEDIATELY (gvinesc@gmail.com) if you require accommodations for this trip? I can fill you in on the details tomorrow. We must FAX our reservation requests no later than next Monday morning.
This is getting VERY exciting! It appears we have a good size group coming. We need a group photo. Let's keep working on the arrangements.
Everyone is welcome, whether you've been here 12 years or 12 minutes, if you're with SeniorLearn, come on!!
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Welcome Zulema! We are so glad to have you come again to another NYC soiree.
We will see you on Wednesday, Sept 8th at the Fraunces Tavern Museum at 3pm and then for dinner at the restaurant at 5pm. If you can't make it to the Museum but want to do dinner, we will see you at 5pm. Please let me know on both times.
My email: adoannie35@yahoo.com
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Well, Ginny, just let us know if being there on 9/11 is going to be a problem so we can adjust our dates??? Well, see what the Leo has to tell us today.
Did you get Mary's and my reservations??? I sent them last week.
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Lucy (the group reservationis person) will not be in until tomorrow, this being a holiday so I'll call first thing bright and early.
I do have all the letters you have sent, and while they were all answered, I have responded with a question this morning. Please check your email today.
Those of you not planning or able to be there on Wednesday night for Fraunces, we'll all gather on a later night (we will definitely want to eat more than one dinner in 5 days, no?) when the most of us are there, probably toward the weekend and after our day of sightseeing for a group meal and chat. So nobody will lose out if they can't be there Wednesday. There are a LOT of great places to eat in NYC! :)
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I'm going to book a room at the Leo as soon as we get the details and then start looking for a Delta flight when the exact dates are set. I really wanted to attend two years ago but was reluctant to commit way in advance. This year I'm requiring myself to do better! I haven't been to New York City in several years, so I am really looking forward to it.
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I would think the night you arrive is best for the Fraunces, because you will have only part of that day. That was what we did last time.
The Circle cruise is best not on the weekend.
Sunday afternoon is a good time to go to St. Thomas Church because there is both evensong and an organ recital.
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So Lucy, is Thursday or Friday your cruise day?
Athena
So glad you are joining us. Will you be there on Wednesday??
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I've never been to a SeniorLearn "soiree" and would love to come. I've met so many wonderful people here in the past few years. Once I know the full price - airfare, hotel, trips, dining - I can make a better decision.
I live in the Finger Lakes so it wouldn't be too far. I grew up in CT and would take the train to NYC often.
Nancy
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Nancy!!! It would be wonderful to meet you at last!I'm calling this morning for the rates, etc., but we would need to let them know by the end of this week actually, they require reservations 3 months in advance. I need to find out if the 9/11 is going to affect availability.
I'll post the new rates for September, (have already spoken to them once), as soon as I get them. If you think once you see them, you will need a room (not sure how far the Finger Lakes are), please email me at gvinesc@gmail.com asap.
How exciting!! Cant wait to meet you!
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Ok I've now talked to Lucy at the Leo House and here are the facts.
The first lady I talked to said that yes, 9/11 is a huge thing, people come in for the ceremonies, etc.
In Edit: Since we are now an official group of 12 staying and more coming in for the day, email gvinesc@gmail.com what you want of the following. This must be received BEFORE June 15, when your particulars will be FAXED.
Email gvinesc@gmail.com for any questions.
The rates are:
Double with more than one bed: $115, with mini bathroom ensuite WC and sink, no shower, (shared shower across the hall, European style) and $125 for a double (two people) with two beds and shower.
There is no tax or extra charge.
Single with mini bathroom ensuite (WC and sink, no shower, shared shower across the hall) is $90 per day, with shower is $100. No tax no extra charges. Shower may be across the hall and shared. We can SAY we're with the SeniorLearn group so we may be put together.
Hotel Address: (it's in trendy Chelsea):
The Leo House
332 West 23rd Street
New York, NY 10011-2289.
Phone of Hotel: 1-212-929-1010
Let us know, however, when you will be coming so we can include you in, some exciting things being planned.
The Leo House is a unique type of thing: a Catholic Guest House in the Chelsea district open to all faiths, run by nuns. Very secure. Breakfast (all you can eat) is available, $9.00 home cooked.
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Nancy, your email bounced but you can see the information above, if you have any questions please write me?
We have at present 10 people staying AT the Leo and several more planning to come in for the day, I count 15 and climbing so it should be a wonderful event, come one, come all, there are literary tours, too. Just about whatever you'd want, NYC has, let's do it together!!
Everyone is welcome, this is very exciting.
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I just talked to Shana who is in charge of reservations. This might not be a good idea, our making our own reservations as we can't FAX or write to her before June 15. Buuuut, if we have 10 people going, all we must do is say how many rooms we need. For instance, 5 rooms w/ twin beds or 4 rooms for two people and 2 singles, however that splits. We have to fax her on June 10th. What say you Ginny?? Should we all await the arrival of Jun 15th or do you want our reservation info so that you can FAX on the 10th?
By the by, for Mary and I, we can come on Sept 6 or 7th and leave on 13 or 14.
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Ginny when I got your email about a New York City "soirée" my heart jumped and I immediately wanted to go, this time with a wonderful group of people. What a wonderful opportunity. Please count me in and my daughter Françoise, or if she can't make it, someone else to share the room with. I am excited about seeing all of you I met on the Isle of Palms and at the Montreal Bash in 2006. I will fax whenever it is time to do it. I will go everywhere to anything that is planned, museums, Frounces, the cruise, everything except all night events. ;D
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Eloise! WHOOP!! How fabulous!! WHEE!!!!
My heart is soaring also. We have a person coming from England who was thinking of needing a roommate. Oh Francoise, I'd love to meet her!
Wonderful!! Made my day coming in here! WHOOPEE!
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My goodness what a refreshing attitude:
I will go everywhere to anything that is planned, museums, Frounces, the cruise, everything except all night events
hahahaa
I'm trying to find out how many people are on their first visit to NYC OR would like a tour of some kind of the city.
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Eloise's advent (YAHOO) makes us an "official group" at the Leo House and I am back in charge of reservations, so do not FAX or write a letter, I'm it.
Email me gvinesc@gmail.com for any matters concerning reservations, please, and please remember this is NOT the Ritz and we can't guarantee anything in terms of room amenities, like an ensuite shower.
The Leo House is an "experience," perfect for our group and we've stayed there since 1996.
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And there's something about these "Gatherings" that always ends up fun and funny with lots of memories.
Andrea and i were just laughing about our coming last year. We had agreed to meet in the same airport but WHERE we'd meet (how difficult can it be, we've both got cell phones, right?) seemed to be an issue, we both got there early and started shuttling between the other's point of arrival.
Finally my phone rang as I was on the shuttle for the 100th time, having been told (they ran me all OVER that airport, we won't do that again) to go to terminal whatever, and as I approaching the terminal there was Andrea saying I'm in Terminal B or whatever. The doors started to close, I jumped out (risky at my age) and stood on the platform full of hurrying people. "I'm right here on the platform she said," I said I don't see you, turned around and there she stood staring at me. hahahaa
Funny, what a laugh. If we are all coming in Wednesday, we could try to coordinate airports and the ride in, MUCH cheaper. Let's try to do that.
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Yes, Circle Cruise on Thursday. I am assuming you would prefer travelogue narration to socializing over food and drinks, but I will check both possibilities. You can purchase a bus tour ticket (for 2 days I think) and have the cruise included. I will check.
Yes I will be there Wednesday night and for most of the other events. My Spanish class starts up the morning of the 15th leaving plenty of time.
There is a new World Trade Museum, a kind of preview of the memorial they are building, also a means of making money for the memorial by selling lots of souvenirs and collecting donations. It's near the WTC on Vesey Street.
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Thank you for doing all that work, Lucy. I think we may have people coming to the Big Apple for the first time, they will definitely want to sight see and the Circle Cruise Line is so much fun.
Thanks to Marcie for that great page of hotel info in the heading, she did a super job!
Getting more and more exciting, I love these things, and I love the spirit of cooperation and good will. Lucy will be our Info person on how to get around, too, she's a New Yorker and takes the bus and knows the subways.
Let's seriously think about coordinating our arrivals, those of us coming in on Wednesday, so we can share the ride in.
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Françoise and I will arrive at 8:30 pm on the 8th Sept. at Pennsylvania Station and take a cab to the hotel. We both have been to NYC before but not together, I think she was there more often than me. I think a 2-day bus and Circle cruise tour is great if it's arranged. Can we hop on a city bus any time? I use public transport at home now that I don't have a car any more, it's so convenient.
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Just found out about the trip you are planning. I may happen to be in NY at that time. Visit to Granddaughter in Connecticut planned sometime in Sept. and then leave from NY to visit family in UK.
All depends on the Airlines at this time. At the moment the tickets to Europe unbelievable. Lets hope by September they are down a little. It is all the add on's that they have now.
If England is out then maybe time to visit my friend in Montreal and so could look at what the trains are doing at this time..
JeanneP
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When will we know about the Leo House reservations? I don't want to make plane reservations until we know about the rooms. I might be able to get an earlier flight out, but bear in mind that those of us not in the east lose an hour when we travel to NY. It might be helpful to push the dinner back 30 to 60 minutes.
This is going to be a terrific time. Can't wait to see you all.
JeanneP, I do hope schedules, etc. work out for you. I remember seeing you in Champaign in 2002.
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JeanneP!! How lovely to see you, I do hope you can come for a day anyway if visiting! What fun!
THIS is turning into something BIG here! I love the enthusiasm.
Eloise, a train trip, how fabulous, you'll have the best of both worlds! It's not that far from Penn Station, so the cab should not soak you.
Certainly you can take a bus, Lucy will help with the schedules, notice how I volunteer Lucy, bless her heart, she's been awfully good to us, our "woMAN in NYC!"
Remember also, that we're not as scheduled as some Gatherings are. If, say (let me pick on Andrea) Andrea schedules a Surprise Day (which she is) I doubt sincerely it will run 12 hours long, I'm trying to say you can be FREE to be U and ME and schedule things on your own around our scheduled events if something grabs your thoughts, too, isn't that right, Ann?
Pedln, we won't hear anything in the way of confirmation until June 15, which is a week from next Tuesday but we should hear then.
I am very excited to announce that Joyce Pair, whom some of you know as Athena2, one of our excellent and long time Latin students, is our co Reservations Manager for the trip and is helping us with her excellent FAX, stay tuned, we'll be right there on the money.
Things are really coming together, like they always do with our Gatherings, I love it love it love it!
There is a subway stop up a half block on the corner and several drug stores, several restaurants, etc. The subway stop is among other things, an Express. After Lucy and I attended a concert, she put me on the right one in Times Square and it only stopped ONCE before letting me out at our stop, about 5 minutes.
And then there are the shows.
One of our group in 2008 asked a local whom she met somewhere (who WAS that? Fess up?) the best place to eat and she said you're practically staying next door to the best Italian restaurant in the city, and so we were, and it's authentic Italian NYC, mom and pop place, with plates of food enough for 6, mangia, mangia!! It was still there in December.
There's also a new Boston Market at the crossroads (or there was in December) and a BarBQue place, about 1/2 block up and a Dunkin Donuts is it? For take out breakfast and another sort of deli bakery, and, as I said, a mega "drug" store, also. But you can't beat the Leo breakfasts for the price.
WhOOPEE!
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Boston Market is on 8th Avenue near West 23rd and very good. Across the street from there next door to the movie theater is a new burger place called Lucky's and very good--burgers, veggie and chicken as well--very reasonably priced and nicely served. I have been there a couple of times.
Near the new WTC memorial museum is also Century 21, the shopping Mecca where many tour buses stop. It's near the new buildings for the memorial. I would be happy to take anyone there.
The tour buses are generally hop on, hop off, so they are a convenient way to see the city.
I want to try that breakfast at Leo House, which I have never done.
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The Leo House breakfast is excellent! I think they don't do it on Sundays. That is probably the reason that during our last stay at the Leo House , my sister and I on Sunday went west along the block and across 9th ave. to the diner there. Breakfast was very good and the service was friendly - always a plus!
The Leo House isn't very far from Penn Station. I went out the 7th Ave. exit (it's near 31st street)when I arrived and walked down 7th Avenue to 23rd st. - all short blocks - made a right on 23rd, walked a longish block and a half to the Leo. One could also do that by bus - no need for a taxi.
That walk took me past the Hotel Chelsea on 23rd st.which is famous for the great number of writers, artists and musicians who have stayed there. They say that it''s the only NY landmark acclaimed for both architectural and historical interest. I went into the lobby just for the heck of it and it sure is "different"!
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Hello, everyone!
Eloise, I am delighted I'll see you and Françoise again. Montreal and Quebec were a fantastic experience with the group.
City buses do not take paper money, this throws off so many visitors. Seniors need quarters or dimes, because they pay half-fare ($1.10 right now) and there is no time to get a Senior Metro-Card for a short visit. Under-65's, like Françoise, travel much easier with a Metro-Card, which one can buy in any subway station. Also, in the subway, Seniors who show a Medicare card, can buy, at the manned booth, a single ride Metro-Card and get a RETURN SLIP, but you can get those only one at a time. The RETURN SLIP is good on buses or manned subway stations.
I e-mailed Ado Annie for Wednesday at Fraunces Tavern to be counted in. Thursday I won't be around. 9/11 is big in Lower Manhattan but should not affect the cruise. Lucy puts me to shame but I am not a planner. What would we do without the planners though?
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My experience was that breakfast is not served at Leo House on Sundays. I went there for it but Ginny and I ended up going to Dunkin Donut instead. Lucy/color]
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I hope the diner is still around since Dunkin' Donuts doesn't serve Wheaties!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Familiar faces and voices are making my day here. Eloise and Francoise plus Zulema plus JoanR plus plus plus. So I think I had better plan on putting up a printable map for getting to the Fraunces Museum. We have always used the subway for getting almost everywhere we go. We use a Metro Card which if I remember correctly you can purchase from a machine.
Lucy, I am really looking forward to the cruise and I would prefer the one with someone telling what I am looking at. We can always go somewhere for food after our cruise.
Last time we traveled together, we paid the person in charge ahead of time for our planned day. For day 1, its not needed to pay me for the Museum as you can do that yourself when you get there. And the restaurant is the same.
But, Lucy, do you want or need to collect upfront for Thursday?
JoanR, will your sister be joining you at the Leo again?
Well, this is going swimmingly!!
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Hi everyone!
I have been reading all your entries. It sure sounds like fun! This is my first time in New York!
so looking forward to going to the Fraunces Tavern. Great to be with people with local knowledge.
I am in Ginny's 104 Latin Class and am from UK
Regards
Gay Hector
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Hi Gay,
So glad you are joining us in NYC. Will you be there for first day of fun and joining us for the Fraunces Museum at 3pm?? Please email me so I can put you on my list for Sept 8th. This is going to be fun with some new folks joining us. We are so excited.
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Hi ADOANNIE
My flight is due to arrive at Newark at 13.20 so depending on how long it takes me to clear customs and travel to the Hotel to check in it may be nearer to 5.p.m before i arrive at the Fraunces Tavern. Please book me for dinner.
Regards
Gay Hector
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We are looking forward to seeing you at The Fraunces Restaurant on Sept 8th. Thanks for adding your name to the growing list of attendees.
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September 8-12, 2010
Everyone is invited!
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Autumn in New York, (are you singing?) What could be finer?
Based on the resounding success of our 10th Anniversary Gathering in NYC in 2008, we thought we'd try it again!~
Our Hotel: The Leo House: "The Little Heart in the Big City," with the best rates you'll find anywhere.
Hotel Information and Rates (http://www.seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/leohouse.html)
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Garden at the Leo House
If you are a Latin student, come meet some of your classmates, for a fun filled day or weekend:
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Classics Students at the Met, NYC 2008
Tentative Schedule:
Sept 8th-Wednesday: --Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM) for details. Ann plans for us to meet at the Fraunces Tavern Museum at 3pm. When the museum closes at 5pm, we'll walk to the Bridge Cafe, also historic, for dinner. Our reservation is for 6 pm. Fraunces Tavern is where George Washington and his generals met after or during the Revolution. The Bridge Cafe (http://bridgecafenyc.com/New_York_Restaurant_cafe_Tavern/the-menu/)
Thursday 9/9: --LucyLibr--plans a cruise on the Hudson. Contact: Lucy (Lucylibr@aol.com) for details.
Friday 9/10 11:00 am: Metropolitan Museum of Art: Gallery Talk for all Latin Students and Everybody Interested - The Ancient Child--Michael B Norris- Assistive Listening Devices available. Followed by Lunch. Michael Norris is the author of several books on Greek and Byzantine art and a staff member of the Museum.
Museum curators, conservators, educators, independent scholars, and advanced students of art history regularly present Gallery Talks that focus on specific aspects of the collection, as well as on special exhibitions. Don't miss this! Free with Museum entrance fee.
---After Lunch: Free Afternoon at Leisure
Saturday 9/11: Our First Author's Tea at the award winning Sarabeth's, see below! -
Sunday 9/12 Those wanting to go to Ellis Island will convene in the Lobby of the Leo. As an alternative, Ann plans a trip to the Tenement Museum. OR just do your own thing! Contact: ginny (gvinesc@gmail.com) for details.
Other Enticements:
Alf is planning a Surprise! Contact: Andrea (WFlannery@cfl.rr.com) for details.
Pedl'n plans a day at the newest NYC park, the High Line. http://www.thehighline.org/ (http://www.thehighline.org/) Contact: Pedln (ann.bartlett@att.net) for details.
Additional Possibilities:
The short terms, unscheduled -- High Line Park, with maybe a visit to Chelsea Market nearby, Union Square, The Strand, shopping, Tenement museum, Botanical Gardens, Etaly if open, a Broadway Show, Algonquin or Chelsea Hotels, concerts, opera, bus tour of NYC, etc.
Monday 9/13: : Travel Day: Departure
New!!
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9/11: Our First Ever Author Tea at Sarabeth's on Central Park between 5th and 6th Avenue: This is our room! (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/Sarabethsskylightroom.jpg)
Join us on September 11 in this award winning restaurant looking out on the Park for one of their famous Teas, at less than half price, $10 only, no tax, and enjoy meeting our authors, Bruce Frankel, and Maryann McFadden:
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"I can think of no writer I'd rather have sing me songs of the sea, even sad ones, than Maryann McFadden."---Anne Rivers Siddons
We'll be discussing Maryann McFadden's book, here on SeniorLearn beginning August 15 - at
"So Happy Together" (http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=1506.0) Join us today!
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Bruce Frankel’s book, "What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life" is inspirational! "This upbeat, inspiring, timely book shows how taking a risk and fighting to find a passionate career — at any age — can reinvigorate your life...”— Susan Shapiro
Come join Bruce now - and be inspired!
Talking Heads ~ "What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life" (http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=1572.0)
Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM) today to secure your place at the table! We have only a few seats left!~ Don't miss this one!!
See information about reservations at the LEO HOUSE (http://www.seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/leohouse.html). Deadline to reserve your accommodations is June 15!
Questions about the gathering? Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM)
As a New Yorker would say, "What's not to like?"
Join us if you can, you'll never forget it!
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Gay! So glad to see you here, can't wait to meet you!
As it turns out, Andrea, Gay and I are all arriving at Newark about the same time, Andrea and I within minutes, so we can share a car in (and if anybody else is coming around 1 pm to Newark you are welcome to ride in with us also, and back out for that matter).
Doesn't seem right to have one of our meetings without a literary theme, let's work on that. If the weather permits, I am going to have to take a half day and see Ellis Island, I know many of you have seen it, I have not, and am fantastically interested in the immigrant experience. Two books I just saw recommended in Bookmarks Magazine traces two immigrant stories to NYC, one by Tracey Kidder of Deo, a Burundi medical student who arrived in NYC with $200, slept in Central Park and ended up finishing his degree and returning to help his homeland and the other is The Man in the White Sharkskin Suit by Lucette Lagnado about an emigration from Cairo to Brooklyn. I think I would like to read those two books and see Ellis Island, and don't forget the Tenement Museum, they still send me letters from 2008.
And of course we could read McCullough's book on the building of the Brooklyn Bridge and walk across it if anybody were game! It's called The Great Bridge, and I picked it up on a bargain table some time ago.
There are literary walks too, lots of bookish things to see and do in the city! Has anybody contacted the Strand to see what might be on while we'll be there?
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Here's a fantastic link to the Tenement Museum's Tenement Talks, which are free. Some of these look fabulous:
http://www.tenement.org/vizcenter_events.php
I like the look of these two particularly:
Markets of New York: A Guide to the Best Artisan, Farmer, Food, and Flea Markets with Karen Seiger
Explore the Big Apple through its iconic shops and marketplaces. Anne Saxelby will be on hand with her famous Saxelby Cheese.
The Thing Around Your Neck with Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
Chimamanda Adichie, a Nigerian writer, will read from her new book about the complexities of immigration in the 21st century. This Talk will be in real time Open-Captioning.
They don't have anything for September yet but on the 23rd but we can keep watching it as things are added.
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Wow, talk about George Washington! Here's David McCullough on Youtube in April of 2009 defending the Brooklyn Bridge against developers, I have to assume he won? Or did he? Shows him walking across it, too.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cad=16107007357945915130&ct=res&cd=5&ved=0CDEQtwIwBA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D34eV2nz4Jvo&ei=ne0ITPr0AoKKlweFnJSRDg&usg=AFQjCNFlS2ssBKJ1LzBAfrA7yk1Xdy89UQ&sig2=sETYHqY0R11sQggcL8Yg0g
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I haven't been disappointed by any of Stacey Kidder's books, Ginny, but that other one intrigues me also.
I don't think that the Tenement Museum is very far from the Fraunces Museum. I will look that up.
I still get things from the Museum of NYC and have ever since 2008. I think Mary and I were there but not very impressed.
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Such fun things being discussed here. For me it's like if I were going to Paris, visiting big cities always give me a thrill and I get so excited about what I will see and do. The museums, the huge parks, the architecture and the people.
Ginny, I have time to kill so the train ride will be good for seeing the countryside and the towns, I love travelling by train, so why not.
Lucy, I like that idea of hopping on and off tour buses, it's a great way to visit a city.
Joan R. I would like to walk from Penn station to the hotel seeing it's not that far but not with luggage in toe when we have to cross streets and weave around pedestrians, but as you say the distance is quite short if I judge by the Manhattan map I looked at. BTY are you the same Joan who came to the Montreal Bash? if yes, I have pictures of you and your daughter in my photo file.
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Yes, Eloise, I am the same Joan who went to the Montreal bash! I have a lovely picture of you singing at the mike. You were really good! It will be great to see you and your lovely daughter again!
I travel with a very light rolling bag since I'm no good at lifting. I don't pack a bunch of "stuff" so the walk is OK for me. The sidewalk curbs all have dips at the corners making it easy to pull a case , and there are always people to cross with so you don't have to worry about being mowed down! All bets are off, of course, if it should rain!
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Zulema, boujour vous!!! how exciting that I will be seeing you again. How is that handsome grandson of yours? He was so sweet and charming and so patient with us seniors.
Hi! Pedln, I will love to meet with you again. I miss all the fun we had in the old Seniornet.
Bow Belle, welcome to the group. I love the movie A Song to Remember too, when I went to the top of the Chrisler Building I thought about that movie too.
Ann, I am looking forward to seeing you and Mary again.
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And so the legend begins. The hotel has our reservations. I would urge anybody now who is thinking of coming not to delay, this hotel sells out fast and it's a holiday, 9/11.
We have likewise a surprise author wise and I think you'll be astonished and pleased, we'll have opportunity to learn something fun and useful hopefully for all of us, and once again our Bookfest Soriee in NYC will have an author, the surprise is there's more than one!
Stay tuned, how much better can it get.
We owe Athena 2 (Joyce Pair) a huge debt of gratitude for her handling of the reservations and Lucy at the Leo says she's looking forward to our stay. So are we.
So HOORAY we're on. Several of us are flying into Newark on Wednesday about 12-1, so if you can come then also you are invited to ride in with us. The Fraunces Tavern Museum may open at 3 but we're not eating at 3, right, Ann? When are we assembling for dinner?
Every day in every way this gets better and better, thanks to you all shouldering the responsibility so well. I'm quite excited.
I will not want to attend the ceremonies for 9/11, maybe we need to find out how many will want to be there. I am sure it's very moving. I stood on top of the building too many times with my small children holding on to those steel bars looking down, I can't bear to view the site, in fact I've never gone.
Once the plans are in for each day's activity you'll find a lot of leeway for you to sightsee, shop, see a show or hang with us, we'll make sure at breakfast that everybody who wants to come do something has that opportunity.
We're a lot looser than some "gatherings" are but it works for us. :)
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The Fraunces Tavern Museum closes at 5pm and we will go to dinner from there.
I need to know who is joining us for dinner so I can make reservations.
If you plan on being at the Fraunces Tavern for dinner on Sept 8th-Wed, please email me so I can make reservations.
Ginny, please put this notice up in the Latin classes as I would want to hear from them also.
Mucho gratsias, Joyce(Athena2) for all of your hard work. Can't wait to meet you.
Hey, take a look at this. This is my library system!
This month, we have the incredible honor of announcing that Library Journal has selected Columbus Metropolitan Library as the 2010 National Library of the Year. This is one of the highest honors in the library world, and comes on top of our 5 Star rating and our #1 Hennen rating. We are the only library in the nation to have achieved all three distinctions. And, this wouldn't be possible without the wonderful support from our customers. We thank you for making us great. Click here to read the article.
http://www.libraryjournal.com/lj/home/883793-264/2010_library_of_the_year.html.csp
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News!!
We have some very exciting news. As you know, we are a combination of Books and Latin here and our Gatherings since 1998 have always reflected books (or things of interest to both when the Latin students started coming in 2008). This year we have the honor to announce we have TWO authors who are going to meet with us, following our 12 year tradition in the Books!
We'll share a meal and you can meet face to face and talk to with them about their books and anything you'd like to ask. We'll be talking about both our authors more in the coming months.
The first is Bruce Frankel, whose book What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life features our own Dr. Robby. His book is about making the most of your senior years and we hope it will be an upbeat inspirational meeting for everybody.
The second author is Maryann McFadden!! Ann is scheduling her appearance with us and as usual has a fabulous venue in mind. How lucky we are!!! We will discuss both authors before September, so we've plenty of time to read their books before hand, and we can doubly look forward to talking with them.
Don't miss this one! Everyone is welcome!
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Sounds wonderful Ginny! I'm so sorry to miss it, but I don't think I'll try. I watched the Tony Awards show last night; they all looked marvelous. What to choose to go see? MEMPHIS seemed lively with such music and dance. FENCES got all the awards and would be marvelous. Many revivals. I didn't care much for Catharine Zeta-Jones in a Little Night Music, but with Angela Lansbury in there I bet it is worth seeing also. Angela looks her age, she hasn't tried to disguise it, good for her!
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The Tony Awards:
http://www.tonyawards.com/en_US/index.html
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Ella I'm sorry you can't come to this one, we'll miss you.
I saw Angela Lansbury and Catherine Zeta Jones last winter when their show opened, I enjoyed it, they were both good, tho just about everybody in the house seemed to have come as a total Lansbury fan, she got ovations for moving. I think perhaps she deserves them. And she gets carried off physically in the thing, that must get tiring after the first couple of nights.
Lots of shows winning the Tonys I never heard of, thank you for that list, I missed the show.
We've heard from the hotel now and if you don't have a letter in your mail it will come soon, let us know if it does not. Everything seems to be on track and we have a super new author (Discover a New Author) in Maryann McFadden and an author about inspiration in old age, in Bruce Frankel, I think they will both make excellent luncheon or breakfast guests, and for Conversation to Remember and tell ones friends about over lunch; we're looking for suitable venues for both.
NEW YORK CITY!!!!!!!!!
Here we come!
Be sure to let Ann know if you're coming to Fraunces the first night, so she can make reservations, they sure were nice to us last time. I remember one of the times we were there, we came out and ran right into (or one of us did, go figure) a stage set, they were filming a movie on the street, how exciting can you get? If only that strange blonde woman didn't stumble thru the barricades they had put up. It's a wonder how anybody films anything in NYC, but don't you love to see the result?
Ella, will never forget Cindy hailing a cab on the street after Fraunces that night in 2008, or the hailing of cabs to go to Fraunces from the boat cruise in 1998. There seems to be something about the hailing of cabs and Fraunces which seems sort of...er.....memorable? hahaha
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I want to mention that there is a King Tut exhibit in New York that will be here all summer and fall. Also the place to see, or see from these days, seems to be the Top of the Rock at Rockefeller Center on 50th and Fifth Avenue. One can make reservations there in advance and avoid standing in line. I do not have details but I am sure they are online. Lucy
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Well, Ginny, as I emailed you, The Leo and I are now on the same page and have the corrected reservations reserved. Thanks for all your help.
For everyone here,
I have been trying to find a place for us to meet Mary Ann McFadden for a meal or high tea and all is so expensive. Does anyone here have a suggestion that might not want me to give them my oldest grandchild to reserve a place.
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Ann I am so glad that worked out, callinig them appears to have straightened that out for you, GREAT!
I think your original choice of Sarabeths for tea is perfect! It's a gorgeous venue, it won something last year in NYC for the Best Tea in the City or something and it's a super afternoon with authors, your original idea I think is the best.
I can't see why we can't have an Author's Tea at our Soiree and get to experience Sarabeth's at a discount to our readers, too. Whyever not? I love the way this thing is coming together!
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Ginny,
An authors' tea is a great idea. Yes, let's plan that. If you can give me a date or two, I can get the room reserved today after I get back from delivering a gran to the library for summer tutoring then deliver Ralph to the CT scan room at the hospital, then take him to lunch and deliver him to his surgeon for a check up on that aneurysm that she has stented. I will call Sarabeth's after that. Am on my way out the door!
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Yikes! How do people make it in this busy, busy world?
I just got off the phone with Lucy Morales who spent more time telling me how busy they were than she did listening to my questions.
She had the wrong address for me and kept insisting that she wanted to fax me the registration. Four times I told her in 5 small words, "I don't have a fax."
Patience is not my strong suit lately but none the less, I am awaiting my reg. by mail. If Pedln is out there somewhere, I will pay the bill in its entirity and you can reimbusrse me like we did last year. Pedln's name and address is alright.
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Andy, I just now read your email and will respond shortly. I've picked up the mail, but other than checking to see if there was a Bookmarks in the bundle (there was) I haven't looked at the rest of it. After driving two days I got into town late this afternoon, got mail, went to the Thursday Farmer's market, then home and unloaded car. Am cooling off in the computer room and trying to cook up enough energy to get in the shower.
What's the name of that Brooklyn church where Dickens read to his audiences?
Does this mean it's safe to make plane reservations?
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Pedln, I'd check my mail for a letter as soon as I could, from the Leo House and if you have it and the dates are correct and the room is what you wanted, then yes I'd make a plane reservation. They want the rooms paid in full by August 8, I'd confirm mine tho just to be sure, tho Andrea says below she'll put it all on her card as before? Whatever you both work out between you will be fine..
Andrea I am sorry for the problem with the address. When we sent the reservations FAX, you were gone, it was as a group and my credit card was to hold them all, so the individual addresses like last year really did not matter, and actually they did not have one for you at all originally. However they decided each person was to do their own reservations, which is probably best in the long run, and that made each person then need a correct address, hence the problem. i did not realize your address was incorrect as submitted, sorry.
If anybody else has a problem, please let us know, it's beginning to look somewhat disorganized and it's anything but. Hopefully the rest will run smoothly.
Ann has the proposed dates now and we'll hear from her soon, that sounds like quite a day, Ann, is the CAT scan for the stent?
The venue that Ann has found for the Author's Tea is fabulous, and we can offer a huge discount, for this award winning restaurant tea, it would be sinful not to try it and much more fun than going alone (and about half price, something like $10 with no tax). The menu is to die for, come hungry. The whole experience should be out of this world AND a private room, well done, Ann! Let's hope the days we want are not booked.
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Ginny,
We have a reservation for Sept 11, Saturday, from 4to6, for Sara Beth's High Tea Sarabeth's South Central Park location. I talked to Michelle this afternoon and she has emailed me the paperwork and I have sent it to you for approval. She has put my name on the reservation for now.
Please note that I have promised 20pp including our authors. If that is too many please let me know. Before I sign anything and return it to her, I need to know who will be at the tea. Please email me every one including our Latin student attendees. We will be passing platters around with sandwiches el. I assume we might have pitchers of tea on each table. Yes, the room is okay for someone to give a talk and take questions from the seats.
Ralph is lookin' good. Yes, it was for the stent enclosing the aneurysm. Everything is in place and he can now go back to exercising and walking but slowly at first. He will have to return in 6 months and after that every year for the CT and a visit with this wonderful lady surgeon. Ralph is the first heart pump patient who has had an aneurysm stent placement. The man should write a book! Or somebody should, about his life after 60. Its really been a whirlwind!
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Oh Ann, that is wonderful and our price for our attendees, at $10 instead of the regular $22 and tax (NYC TAX) makes this event a real deal!
Check this out: Sarabeth's on Central Park between 5th and 6th Avenue:
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Take the Virtual Tour, there are tons of rooms and they are all different, I like the last one here best:
http://www.sarabethscps.com/rooms.html
Let Ann know if you are coming asap, we'd like a nice crowd for our authors and our first EVER Soiree Tea. :)
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Pedln, if I were you I'd fall on the floor! I'm glad you got back safely tho!! I don't know the Brooklyn church that Dickens read from or that he did at all! Wow.
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I'm green with envy - save me a sandwich
Dickens in Brooklyn? -He read at Plymouth Church - try this link - This day in History June 9 (he died) but the article has some details about readings you might be looking for.
http://www.brooklyneagle.com/categories/category.php?category_id=238jd=35934
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OH, Gum, I sure wish you were going to be with us. We will send you a postcard if you send me your snail mail address. We would love to meet you F2F!
I believe Dickens was at the Madison Heights Church but will check on that. LucyLibr took a tour there recently so she knows the correct name.
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I did not get a letter, but am letting Andy handle it all. If Andy has a room, I think she'll let me in. ::) A call from me, with my ears, would only muck things up.
And if Leo says no room, well, Liz and Judy will just have me for five extra days. ;D Now here's hoping that morning flight is still open so I can hit the big city in time for dinner.
Ann, your plans for High Tea with the authors sounds wonderful. Congratulations.
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Gum! That would make it perfect if you could come too!
Pedln, they may have only sent one reservation per room, which makes sense, but I'd say at this point if you don't have a letter and you live in the States and nobody from your room got a letter, or has been in contact with them, I'd call. I THINK that we're all set, or at least nobody I've written has written back to say not.
I'd also call if I were out of the country or FAX.
Just to be on the safe side.
Pedln you are absolutely right about our AdoAnnie, it just keeps getting better and better.
Maryann McFadden: (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/maryannmcfaddenjerrybauer3200.jpg)
Maryann's book So Happy Together JUST came out in paperback June 15. Look at this review:
"I can think of no writer I'd rather have sing me songs of the sea, even sad ones, than Maryann McFadden."
-Anne Rivers Siddons
Wow!
Maryann is so enthused about this occasion! Her enthusiasm is infectious. . This is going to be a totally upbeat positive tea of inspirational subjects. I am so excited about her and her new book.
Here's her website again: www.maryannmcfadden.com
I can't think of too many things nicer than "High Tea" in the afternoon at an award winning restaurant with authors to listen to on subjects which are upbeat and pertain to all of us. What more could you want?
Fantastic job, Ann!
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I went on a walking tour of Brooklyn Heights and visited Plymouth Church, which was an important part of the underground railroad. We heard an excellent lecture and the saw the renowned church and parish house with its Tiffany stained glass windows. If anyone is interested, they could plan to see it, but it would take several hours plus travel time.
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Lucy, did you go to the Underground Railroad Festival? I did not know aoubt the church’s part in the Underground Railroad, was thinking of it only in terms of the Dickens readings.
We are getting a full schedule –
Wed. – Fraunces Tavern
Thurs. or Fri – Boat Tour around Manhattan?
Saturday – Author Tea at 4 pm
Sunday – Museum and/or get together with the Latin students?
And then there is Ellis Island, local bookstores – the Strand, Crime & Punishments in Greenwich Village, Highline Park and Chelsea Market, and gazillion other things
Here’s a link to visiting Plymouth Church --
Plymouth Church (http://www.plymouthchurch.org/visitors_and_tours.php)
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No, Pedln, I just went on a walking tour of Brooklyn Heights. We also visited Brooklyn Casino, which is a fabulous building where they have squash courts; it's headquarters for the squash association, sort of an elite venue.
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I have list of attendees at the Fraunces Tavern:
Ginny
Andy
Ann
Mary
Pedl'n
Zulema
Athena
Lucylibr
Gay
Jeanne (maybe)
Joyce(maybe)
If your name isn't here and it should be, please email me.
For the high tea:
Our authors:
Mary Ann McFadden-"So Happy Together"-Our discussion-Aug 15 -Sept 5th.
Bruce Frankel-"What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life?" A Talking Heads topic in Aug.
Attendees:
Ginny
Andy
Mary
Ann (moi)
Pedl'n
Liz
Judy
Zulema
Gay
Eloise
LucyLib
Gay
Joan R
Meg
Joyce(maybe)
Jeanne (maybe)
Again, if your name should or shouldn't be here please let me know by email. We need to make our reservations at Sarabeth's firm as to numbers.
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Hi, Ann, thanks for publishing the list. I had forgotten that I was a maybe! Please add me and my daughter, Meg, to the list as attendees for sure!!!! I think the high tea is a fabulous idea!
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Ann -- re: Judy and Liz -- probably not for the high tea, but I will ask them. They go a lot on the weekends, camping, biking, etc. and now that they have a car, they can go further/farther.
Also, Judy will NOT be at the Fraunces, as that is her night to work at the Co-op grocery. I don't know about Liz, but will check with her. All her patients are now in Brooklyn, not Manhattan.
JoanR, is Meg your librarian daughter?
Can dinner be pushed back a little from 5 pm? Even to 5:30 would be helpful. It's a real push to land in the afternoon, then get to Leo House, then to get downtown to the Fraunces.
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Okay, so I add JoanR and daughter to the high tea and subtract Liz and Judy from the dinner at the Fraunces and museum. Is that right?
We will be there at 5pm but taking our time so just come at 5:30. What will they do, kick you out?? Not allow you to order? Naaaaaaw, they wouldn't do that. We will dawdle! hahaha!
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Yes those of you who can't make a 5 pm date, please do come over when you can. Or if you want some of us to wait for you and go with you, we can do that too, share a cab?
I've heard now from everybody on the rooms, and everybody who has reported ON the ensuite shower HAS one, they have really done us proud, I'm very happy about that! Cross your fingers!!
Ann that's a very impressive list of attendees for both venues!
Please add Bruce Frankel the author to Sarabeth's at 4, he sent an acceptance some time ago but has changed computers and it did not go. I am sure we can all relate to that!
So if Jeanne can come that's 17 which is a super number, more than NYC 08, and about 6 less than the photo of Chicago all those years ago. I think this is just out of this world!
Come one, come all. For the Latin Students on Sunday we'll plan a get together at either the Met or the Cloisters, depending on what programs they are offering at the time (not yet up). Stay tuned, it should be magic, EVERYONE is invited j7ust like last time and it will be better than last time, which was pretty good in the first place. :)
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I have list of attendees at the Fraunces Tavern: 11
Ginny
Andy
Ann (moi)
Mary
Pedl'n
Liz(maybe)
Zulema
Athena
Lucylibr
Vivian
Gay
If your name isn't here and it should be, please email me. I did hear from Nancy(Aberlaine) and she can't join us due to her iffy health. So we have added one name, Vivian, and removed another, Nancy.
For the high tea: 18
Mary Ann McFadden(author)
Bruce Frankel(author)
Ginny
Andy
Mary
Ann (moi)
Pedl'n
Zulema
Gay
Athena
Eloise
Francoise
LucyLib
Gay
Joan R
Meg
Vivian
Suzanne
Again, if your name should or shouldn't be here please let me know by email or post here. We need to make our reservations at Sarabeth's firm. We actually need 20 attendees at Sarabeth's according to the lady making arrangements for us but I am hoping they will make an exception. She did not mention a minimum when I first talked to her, except to reassure me that less than 20 was not a problem. Well, or course its not, if you are going to charge us for 20, no matter how many attend!! We will continue to search other venues if necessary. I haven't contacted "The Cafeteria" yet so will do so on Monday. They are in Chelsea and not far from our hotel.
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No map of our possible trip to Sarabeth's. Sorry!
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Sarabeth is on Central Park South (which is 59th Street) between Fifth and Sixth Avenues, so any bus that goes up Sixth Ave (Ave. of the Americas) turns on CPS and will get you off practically across from Sarabeth. That's if you are coming from downtown or Chelsea. If you go uptown in the morning, like to the Met Museum, you take the Fifth Avenue bus (any) down to Central Park South. And I will see you there.
Zulema
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Thanks Zulema,
I always forget that they have buses in NYC. And that's certainly a simple way to get to Sarabeths CPS.
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I think the NY bus system is terrific. I gave up the subways a couple of years ago and travel the city quite happily via bus! You can see where you're traveling on a bus - that's a big plus More pluses for the buses! (poetic, yes?) No stairs, no broken escalators, no pushing at the doors. Also I find that the drivers on the buses are usually quite helpful .
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September 8-12, 2010
Everyone is invited!
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Autumn in New York, (are you singing?) What could be finer?
Based on the resounding success of our 10th Anniversary Gathering in NYC in 2008, we thought we'd try it again!~
Our Hotel: The Leo House: "The Little Heart in the Big City," with the best rates you'll find anywhere.
Hotel Information and Rates (http://www.seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/leohouse.html)
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Garden at the Leo House
If you are a Latin student, come meet some of your classmates, for a fun filled day or weekend:
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Classics Students at the Met, NYC 2008
Tentative Schedule:
Here's a loose schedule for Sept 8th thru Sept 12th:
Sept 8th-Day 1--Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM) for details. Ann plans for us to meet at the Fraunces Tavern Museum at 3pm. When the museum closes at 5pm, meet downstairs in the Fraunces Tavern for drinks and dinner. This is where George Washington and his generals met after or during the Revolution. http://www.frauncestavernmuseum.org/ (http://www.frauncestavernmuseum.org/)
Sept 9th thru Sept 12:
Day 2--LucyLibr--plans a cruise on the Hudson. Contact: Lucy (Lucylibr@aol.com) for details.
Day3--Alf is planning a Surprise! Contact: Andrea (WFlannery@cfl.rr.com) for details.
Day 4--Pedl'n plans a day at the newest NYC park, the High Line. http://www.thehighline.org/ (http://www.thehighline.org/) Contact: Pedln (ann.bartlett@att.net) for details.
Day 5- Ginny will plan something at the Met and a luncheon for the Latin students, everyone is invited, just like last time. Contact: ginny (gvinesc@gmail.com) for details.
Day 6-: Travel Day: Monday the 13th: Departure
Other possible venues include: a day at the Botanical Gardens (http://www.nybg.org/) or a history tour of NYC environs. A Broadway Show, opera, concert, tea at the Plaza, the Algonquin (home of the RoundTable) etc., etc., etc.
New!!
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to our First Ever Author Tea at Sarabeth's on Central Park between 5th and 6th Avenue: This is our room! (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/Sarabethsskylightroom.jpg)
Join us on September 11 in this award winning restaurant looking out on the Park for one of their famous Teas, at less than half price, $10 only, no tax, and enjoy meeting our authors, Bruce Frankel, and Maryann McFadden:
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"I can think of no writer I'd rather have sing me songs of the sea, even sad ones, than Maryann McFadden."---Anne Rivers Siddons
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Bruce Frankel’s book, What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life is inspirational! "This upbeat, inspiring, timely book shows how taking a risk and fighting to find a passionate career — at any age — can reinvigorate your life...”— Susan Shapiro Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM) today to secure your place at the table! We have only a few seats left!~ Don't miss this one!!
See information about reservations at the LEO HOUSE (http://www.seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/leohouse.html). Deadline to reserve your accommodations is June 15!
Questions about the gathering? Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM)
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and if it's anything like in Montreal you don't have to wait a long time either 20 minutes during the day is the longest. I was wondering if we could take an early evening bus tour along 5th Avenue to go window shopping sitting down in a bus. Is that feasable?
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Eloise,
Mary and I did that when going to an evening tour of NYC. Its just amazing to see how many shops are supported in that wonderful city. There isn't a dark store front along there.
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JoanR,
I am so glad to hear of using the bus system. Mary and I used a bus our first night in NYC back in 1998 and enjoyed all the shops along the way. Sort of our own little tour without walking. We loved it.
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Pedln and I rode the bus daily, everywhere that we went the last time we were in NYCity. The driver was young, fun, kind and very accommodating to the older folks getting off and on.
OK now, I am going to do my job. I see that we have a busy schedule so if anyone has something in particular for me to plan (my surprise) I will take care of it. I just need some direction lately.
I am so happy that Eloise will be with us. I have missed here dreadfully and those of you that have not met dear Eloise-- well you will always remember her with a smile and a song.
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Get in line everyone!
Welcome to everyone who might be interested in reading along with us. We will be meeting this author in NYC for high tea. She has even offered to join us for the discussion.
I am halfway through the story of an almost retired high school teacher who wants to change her life and is making plans to become a photographer as in National Geographic. As she is packing to leave her home for 10 weeks taking a class in B&W photo making, her long lost daughter shows up and her parents decide to move into assisted living. Nothing goes as planned from there on.
The description of Cape Cod and the little vilage they end up is just mouth watering. Makes me wonder what I have missed.
I am hoping that all of our attendees, plus anyone who wants to read along with us, will use this link to sign up to read Maryann's newest book and also to speak with the author online before we meet her f2f.
http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=1506.0
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I just received both of Maryann's books this weekend. And if that main character wants to change her life, she'll be right up there with Bruce Frankel.
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You are right, Pedl'n. Both books--Frankel's and Maryann, are about changing lives, aren't they! Glad you will be there for the discussion.
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I am glad that so many of you used the city bus to tour the city because I really would love to do that.
Andrea, this old lady wouldn't dare make a fool of herself again by singing, you are only 'young' once. ;D
I have never seen St. Patrick's Cathedral and I hope I have a chance to visit the interior. I love to just walk on large avenues and sit at a sidewalk café to watch people go by when the weather is nice.
Annie, I ordered So Happy Together and I will join in the discussion.
There are 4 generations in my family and would certainly relate to a lot of the situations in the book.
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I love to just walk on large avenues and sit at a sidewalk café to watch people go by when the weather is nice.
Way to go, Eloise. I love to do that too. We could sit in Union Square, eat lunch and watch all the people. And the Strand Bookstore (18 miles of books) is practically across the street.
JoanR -- is that area near where Rent was performed? When my family was in NY this spring, that was one place our teenager had to visit and take pictures.
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Hello!!! It's been almost two weeks since anyone posted here. I just had a house guest, over 65, and found out something about the subway and Seniors. I had mentioned before that a Senior can buy a regular one-trip Metro Card (no more than one at a time) and get the card and a slip that entitles that person to a return trip, and it can be used on the bus also, and it's good for 30 days. But the only proof of age the clerk accepts is a Medicare card and absolutely nothing else. My friend did not bring her Medicare card with her and they refused to look at anything else that showed her age.
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Thanks, Zulema, for the heads-up on the metro card. When there twice, my sister and I bought the 7 day pass and used it extensively. It was good for the buses and the subways and, I think, the trains.
The info about the Metro Card is here:
http://www.easynewyorkcity.com/citytransportation.htm#Downtown%20Connection
We have been working hard getting all things ready for our trip. Some minor glitches have occurred so we are working those out. When the plans for each day are done, we will put up a final schedule in here.
Stay tuned!
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Zulema, I'm shocked! Really. I can't imagine going out of the house without insurance cards, let alone travelling out of town without them.
But, I can remember a few previous trips when I was just using quarters and asked the bus driver if he wanted me to pull out my Medicare card, and he just shook his head. I guess it was pretty obvious.
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I never go out of the house without my medicare card it is one of the most accepted cards we can show as proof of age and residence. I am looking at bus routes and I will try and get a Manhattan bus map and study it to know the bus lines the color and number. Manhattan is so easy compared with other cities where the Metro and buses never follow a straight line. Montreal is not quite as straight but it's still easy in comparison.
We could sit in Union Square, eat lunch and watch all the people. Definitely, it's a date Pedln.
I was telling my daughter Isabelle about So Happy Together that it was almost the story of her life, a career woman "stuck" with her mother :) upstairs and two teen agers starting their college education and a demanding job to deal with. I am sorry to say that my daughter Françoise who had planned to come with me, is starting on a new job and won't be able to accompany me to New York. :'( But I am used to traveling alone.
I hope Ginny is enjoying her trip and wish her to best weather, the best Pompeii visit and the best rest in that beautiful hotel with a view on the azure Mediterranean sea.
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OH, Eloise, I am so sorry to hear that Francoise won't be joining us in NY but also glad that you will still be coming to have some fun in NYC.
Will you be taking a cab from the train station?? Will that be the New York's Grand Central Station??
At MapQuest, they give you a choice as to how you want to travel, by bus, train or subway(shown at top of map). Then when you click on your way of travel, they will draw a map from where you are to the place you are going. I have a map going from our hotel up to Sarabeths for tea on Saturday afternoon.
But, I just found a different place for maps in Manhattan. MTA NYC Transit-Trip Planner. Take a look at this:
http://www.mta.info/nyct/
You can put in your addresses and use July 31, (that's as far in time that they go) and they give you, I think, 3 choices for traveling both ways. And you can print them out.
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Annie, I could take a cab, but when I saw this Manhattan bus map http://www.mta.info/nyct/maps/manbus.pdf
I am pretty sure I can take a No. 3 bus down to 23rd street. My small bag won't drag me down, I know it's not far to walk but I might be tired after an 11 hours train ride and being in the heart of the Big Apple will be a bit awsome for me to walk. I guess I will get a metro/bus card inside the train station. I don't plan on taking the subway unless someone who knows is with me. The train arrives around 8:30 pm.
This is so exciting,
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Did you say 8:30pm?? Is that on the 7th or the 8th of Sept?? It will be dark when you come in and I would strongly suggest that you grab a cab to get to the Leo. Much safer for you since you are alone.
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Yes Anne, you are right it will be too dark to even think of walking alone. I do it here but it's better not to risk it in NY. I will stay 5 nights arriving in NY on Sept 8th at 8:30 pm and leaving Monday Sept 13th at 8:30 am. I am quite sure that the heat wave will be long gone by then.
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Thank you for relieving my concern for you, Eloise. Remember we will be out to dinner that night but we may already be back at the Leo. Ask the receptionist if any of us are in our rooms. Can't wait to see you! Its been too long!
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Hope this will do it:
Would like to attend NYC event. I live in NYC so lodging is not needed. I've been having trouble navigating the web site - hopefully this missive will get me registered. Let me know either way
Thank you
Vivian Dulberg
vrd32@aol.com
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Vivian, welcome to our wonderful site and the planned excursion visit to NYC. We are delighted to have you and hope that you can navigate back in to finding us. If you have any questions, please feel free tojust speak up.l We all had problems getting to where we wantedto go here until we became acclamated to our new site. We have wonderful, helpful techies who spend hours assisting all of us with our questions and concerns.
I can't wait to meet you in NYCity- one ofmy very favorite cities. Of course, I am an original New Yorker so I am biased and admit to that fact. ;D
How long have you lived in the city?
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Hello, Vivian,
I also live in NYC, albeit in the Bronx. Unlike Alf, I moved to NYC afer I retired. Look very much forward to meeting you.
In case you didn't know, if you click on the poster's name, you get the person's profile, such as it is, but also an e-mail address.
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Oh wow, get a load of this. Better yet, check out the review of her book 97 Orchard in today's USA Today. Or search 'jane ziegelman' on Google. Food habits of 5 tenement families.
Would she like to come to -- where are we going -- Sarabeth's in the Park?
Or would she talk to us at the Tenement Museum. For something like this I'd park the walker downstairs and hike up 5 flights, and ask her to wear my ALD when she talks.
Jane Ziegelman is the director of the forthcoming culinary program at New York City's Tenement Museum. The founder and director of Kids Cook!, a multiethnic cooking program for children, she has presented food-related talks and cooking classes in libraries and schools across New York City. Her writing on food has appeared in a number of newspapers, magazines, and books, including The New Cook's Catalog, and she is the coauthor of Foie Gras: A Passion. She lives in Brooklyn, New York.
It's a three P day today. Time to hit the third P -- the pool.
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Pedln- you are as stubborn as PatW. when you travel. :D
I do not wish to exhibit my substantial nursing skills while attending NYC with you.
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What's your problem, Alf??? That is why you are coming with us, right?? ;D ;D
ATTENTION ALL HIGH TEA ATTENDEES!!
I have two names but no emails or incorrect addresses for ladies who said they wanted to be at Sarabeths on Sept 11, 2010 from 4-6pm. Their names are:
JeanneP
Zulema- have your email address but it keeps not accepting my mail to you. Please put me on your acepted list.
Please email me so that I can get some info to you.
Okay, I have heard from Joyce who is Athena2 and she is not sure if she will make to the Soiree but will let me know by August 8th.
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Google the Grolier Club to see what is going on for exhibitions. Grolier is an organization devoted to the book arts: binding, illustration, etc. Could be dull, could be fascinating, but easy location , first block east of 5th Ave, and they have always allowed visitors free. AND they have a lovely clean rest room!
Last time I was there the exhibition was of miniature books, a nineteent century fad. It was very interesting. (for an hour or so)
Sorry I can't join. When would you like to convene in "the Athens of America" - Boston. We have lots of great stuff, too.
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Omigoodness, Bellemere - I went to the exhibit of miniature books, too! One of my daughters collects them - and makes them herself, as well!
A "soiree" in Boston sometime would be great - lots to see there. Getting older by the minute so can't wait too long!
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Bellemere,
The Grolier Club?? Is that down in the Wall St area? Minature books?? Sounds different.
And you are living in Boston?? I thought you lived in Ohio. Weren't you supposed to get together with Ella and I for lunch and then she fell and broke her ankle?? Have you moved?
JoanR,
Did you get my email about Sarabeths?
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Yes, Anne, I did get your e-mail and the check for me & my daughter is on the way. Haven't been to a "proper tea" in many years so am really looking forward to this.
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Thanks for letting me know, JoanR.
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Ann, I just talked with Judy, my daughter, and she and Liz would like to come to the tea at Sarabeth's. They were disappointed they couldn't do the Fraunces dinner. Can they still sign up -- if so, I'll send you another check. I just mailed mine yesterday.
I was surprised when she said they would like to come because they like to take off and go on the weekends. But I guess they'll have had enough travel for a while, and they're going to take me up the Hudson the weekend I'm with them -- 9/18-19.
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I mentioned this book last week after seeing a review of it in USA Today. Here’s a link to a review from yesterday’s NY Times, and below it, one from Amazon.
97 Orchard St, NY Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/28/books/28book.html?hpw)
97 Orchard, Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/97-Orchard-Immigrant-Families-Tenement/dp/0061288500/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1280327456&sr=1-1)
It’s also available in Kindle edition. I’m taking bets to see if I’m going to break down and get a Kindle before this trip. It could hold a lot of books for 13 days away from home.
And by the same name, a children’s book by Linda Granfield.
97 Orchard by Granfield (http://www.amazon.com/Orchard-Street-New-York-Immigrant/dp/0887765807/ref=pd_sim_b_1)
If nothing else, we really should get to the tenement museum.
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I definitely would like to go to the tenement museum!
How early in the day is the river cruise scheduled? I know it's on Thursday - that's the day I'm coming in. I probably could make it if the Leo House will hold my suitcase for me. I've been on that cruise twice but it's always enjoyable so I could do it again in good company.
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Pedl'n,
Yes, the ladies will be a welcome pair to our tea. Must go count heads again and see where we stand.
You are going up the Hudson for 2 days??? What fun that will be!
JoanR,
I don't know about the times of our cruise but you could email LucyLibr and ask her.
In the middle of all this, I am trying to get rooms up in Ithaca,NY for Sept 24-27 or Oct 1-4 and its been a bear. But I think we are getting it straightened out.
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I have list of 9 attendees at the Fraunces Tavern:
Ginny
Andy
Ann
Mary
Pedl'n
Zulema
Lucylibr
Gay
Jeanne (maybe)
If your name isn't here and it should be, please email me. Or if it is here and shouldn't be.
For Sarabeth's High Tea: 16 & 1 maybe
Our authors:
Mary Ann McFadden-"So Happy Together"-Our discussion-Aug 15 -Sept 5th.
Bruce Frankel-"What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life?" A Talking Heads topic in Aug.
Attendees:
Ginny
Andy
Mary
Ann (moi)
Pedl'n
Liz
Judy
Zulema
Gay
Eloise
LucyLib
Joan R
Meg
Vivian
Jeanne (maybe)
Again, if your name should or shouldn't be here please let me know by email. We need to make our reservations at Sarabeth's firm as to numbers.
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I received an email two days ago from the new Fraunces Inn Tavern owners and they have not reopened yet. So, I am thinking if we still want to see the Fraunces Tavern Museum (It was not sold to these new people and still under the ownership of the Revolutionary group of New York State), I have found another restaurant in that area (15 minute walk or there is a bus stop near it,) "The Bridge Cafe". Its a 15 minute walk from the Fraunces Inn Museum.
Here's a link to it: http://www.bridgecafenyc.com/
Please take a look at their menu and their history and know that this is where we may go after the museum.
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Pedln, I received my Kindle last weak and I take it everywhere even in the garden when I sit down and read between chores. I got two books, one of them was free and the other one I am not enjoying it very much. I am trying out two newspapers before I subscribe and they are not that as easy to read on a Kindle as the paper ones, but for headlines it is fine. I hope I can get good French books, but I haven't explored the selection yet. The K will be good on my long train ride, saves me from bringing many books along.
I definitely want to take the river cruise. Should I get my NW pass before I leave Montreal? Before I get it I would like to know that others would want to go to. I hope you get in on time Joan. The Leo mentioned that they do hold luggage for those who arrive early and the rooms are not ready before 2 o'clock.
Ann I am looking forward to the tea at Sarabeth. BTW you got Gay down twice on your list. :-*
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Oh, oh oh. I tell people I go to New York to EAT. And look what's coming. Maybe it will be open when we're there. On West 23rd St. -- just like us. We can walk there, build up an appetite.
EATALY (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/28/dining/28eataly.html?src=me&ref=general)
Eloise, I think I made the decision last night NOT to get a Kindle The $139 price for the new Wi-Fi Kindle is very tempting, and Jeff Bezos was doing a good job of selling on the Charlie Rose show (until the x@8&* cable company messed up the captions). He really made a case for concern about eye strain, non-glare, etc. I went to Amazon, and almost pushed that button. Then I started looking at the books available. Yes, $10, but many creeping up to $13 and more. But mainly, I love the hunt for a good bargain, love browsing in used books stores, trading with friends, etc. But, it's still a possibility. Tell me more about the newspaper reading.
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Thanks, Eloise, for the two Gay's notice. I deleted one. So, I haven't heard from JeanneP as to whether she is still planning to be with us in NYC.
I like having a book in my hands when I read. I also find the Kindle too large for my purses and somewhat heavy. I am hoping to be able to download audio books for traveling. They aren't cheap but we have free loans from our library. I just haven't figured it out yet. Must make an appointment with another Apple Genius for directions.
Pedl'n,
Your first check arrived today along with one from LucyLibr and Vivian. We should make a visit to EATELY, maybe after the High Line Park. vc
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We should make a visit to EATELY, maybe after the High Line Park. vc
Well, maybe. But you know, the High Line is right near Chelsea Market.
I just checked out the Bridge Cafe Menus -- looking good.
I ordered a Kindle, but if they don't ship it by Aug. 27, I'm cancelling. That's the supposed ship-date.
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Oh, Pedl'n,
Chelsea Market??? My youngest brother, Chas, the NYC connoisseur, highly recommends that place. No decision here, is there??
Here's very complete link for the Chelsea Market:
http://www.chelseamarket.com/
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September 8-12, 2010
Everyone is invited!
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Autumn in New York, (are you singing?) What could be finer?
Based on the resounding success of our 10th Anniversary Gathering in NYC in 2008, we thought we'd try it again!~
Our Hotel: The Leo House: "The Little Heart in the Big City," with the best rates you'll find anywhere.
Hotel Information and Rates (http://www.seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/leohouse.html)
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Garden at the Leo House
If you are a Latin student, come meet some of your classmates, for a fun filled day or weekend:
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Classics Students at the Met, NYC 2008
Tentative Schedule:
Sept 8th-Wednesday: --Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM) for details. Ann plans for us to meet at the Fraunces Tavern Museum at 3pm. When the museum closes at 5pm, we'll walk to the Bridge Cafe, also historic, for dinner. Our reservation is for 6 pm. Fraunces Tavern is where George Washington and his generals met after or during the Revolution. The Bridge Cafe (http://bridgecafenyc.com/New_York_Restaurant_cafe_Tavern/the-menu/)
Thursday 9/9: --LucyLibr--plans a cruise on the Hudson. Contact: Lucy (Lucylibr@aol.com) for details.
Friday 9/10 11:00 am: Metropolitan Museum of Art: Gallery Talk for all Latin Students and Everybody Interested - The Ancient Child--Michael B Norris- Assistive Listening Devices available. Followed by Lunch. Michael Norris is the author of several books on Greek and Byzantine art and a staff member of the Museum.
Museum curators, conservators, educators, independent scholars, and advanced students of art history regularly present Gallery Talks that focus on specific aspects of the collection, as well as on special exhibitions. Don't miss this! Free with Museum entrance fee.
---After Lunch: Free Afternoon at Leisure
Saturday 9/11: Our First Author's Tea at the award winning Sarabeth's, see below! -
Sunday 9/12 Those wanting to go to Ellis Island will convene in the Lobby of the Leo. As an alternative, Ann plans a trip to the Tenement Museum. OR just do your own thing! Contact: ginny (gvinesc@gmail.com) for details.
Other Enticements:
Alf is planning a Surprise! Contact: Andrea (WFlannery@cfl.rr.com) for details.
Pedl'n plans a day at the newest NYC park, the High Line. http://www.thehighline.org/ (http://www.thehighline.org/) Contact: Pedln (ann.bartlett@att.net) for details.
Additional Possibilities:
The short terms, unscheduled -- High Line Park, with maybe a visit to Chelsea Market nearby, Union Square, The Strand, shopping, Tenement museum, Botanical Gardens, Etaly if open, a Broadway Show, Algonquin or Chelsea Hotels, concerts, opera, bus tour of NYC, etc.
Monday 9/13: : Travel Day: Departure
New!!
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9/11: Our First Ever Author Tea at Sarabeth's on Central Park between 5th and 6th Avenue: This is our room! (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/Sarabethsskylightroom.jpg)
Join us on September 11 in this award winning restaurant looking out on the Park for one of their famous Teas, at less than half price, $10 only, no tax, and enjoy meeting our authors, Bruce Frankel, and Maryann McFadden:
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"I can think of no writer I'd rather have sing me songs of the sea, even sad ones, than Maryann McFadden."---Anne Rivers Siddons
We'll be discussing Maryann McFadden's book, here on SeniorLearn beginning August 15 - at
"So Happy Together" (http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=1506.0) Join us today!
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Bruce Frankel’s book, "What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life" is inspirational! "This upbeat, inspiring, timely book shows how taking a risk and fighting to find a passionate career — at any age — can reinvigorate your life...”— Susan Shapiro
Come join Bruce now - and be inspired!
Talking Heads ~ "What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life" (http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=1572.0)
Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM) today to secure your place at the table! We have only a few seats left!~ Don't miss this one!!
See information about reservations at the LEO HOUSE (http://www.seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/leohouse.html). Deadline to reserve your accommodations is June 15!
Questions about the gathering? Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM)
As a New Yorker would say, "What's not to like?"
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As you know, Bruce Frankel, the author of "What Should I do with the Rest of My Life" will be one of the two authors meeting up with SeniorLearn in NYC. You can meet him here right now - I'm hoping that you will all participate in the new Talking Heads discussion - here: http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=1572.0
It's an interesting subject - on how we plan to spend the "REST OF OUR LIVES." Some of us have no plans. Like me. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but look forward to this discussion - for inspiration.
Not only that, but he has accepted our invitation to bring in his 85 year old mother who became a professional portrait painter at age 85! She sounds marvelous - hopefully she will stay on after the discussion is over.
Please stop in - we need a welcome committee here - in Talking Heads - "What Should I Do with the Rest of My Life"
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Times for the 3-hour cruise are 10:00 a.m., 12:30 p.m., and 3:30 p.m., so you visitors decide what fits your schedule best. Lucy
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Lucy,
What's the best time for you and are we eating on board or afterward?? Is your knowageable friend going with us?? Do they have a guide speaking to us?? Do we pay you or pay when we get there.
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We have a cancellation and a nice single room with shower and bath ensuite which will be cancelled before the 8th, in case anybody is considering coming but was afraid all the rooms were taken.
If you are interested, write me immediately as this will not be available after the 7th or so. A super last minute opportunity!
Lucy is that the Hudson River Cruise? I have always wanted to go down the Hudson River ever since we went to the Cloisters in 1998, they say it's out of this world. I am very excited about this unusual opportunity and want to know more, too!
All I saw in Europe were ads for Jersey Boys, a show on Broadway with lots of Tony's, it's not new, but it's the story of Frankie Valli and his band, lots of glorious music to take you back (way back) haahaha I'm thinking of doing at least one show and doing that one, we seem to be BEFORE David Hyde Pierce and Johanna Lumley coming from London and after a lot of others, I've got a list of who's on there, I'll bring it tomorrow.
But if you're interested, we could think about a show too, and an early pre dinner and I know just the place. :)
I am really getting excited. Is anybody going to Ellis Island with me??
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Welcome back Ginny! You've been missed! Can't wait to hear about your adventures - you being you, there had to have been Adventures!
I've never been to Ellis Island - an awful omission. Would love to go!
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Can I tag along too Ginny? I have been to Ellis Island about 13 years ago, but could go again especially if you are going to tell us about your trip to the Amalfi Coast. I just saw the movie "A Good Woman" and the plot takes place there with period costumes of the 1930s. The setting is just like the photo you posted before you left.
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You can easily find the Circle Cruise site on the Internet. My thought is that the 3-hour one is best, goes farther and you see more--but decide for yourselves what you want to do. Yes, there is narration. When I went with friends a couple of years ago, we decided that it could best be heard on the top deck near the front.
Bob and I are still planning to go. He likes to take photos and did not want to go on a cloudy day, and then the weather became very hot. We still plan to go. I was planning to ask about discounts for our group when we went there. But I will call and see what I can find out on the phone. Then I can tell you if we buy tickets in advance or what. The going price is $35.
I do not advise buying food on board. I think it best to eat before we leave and bring some snacks such as a beverage and whatever you might want. It saves standing in line and paying exorbitant prices for ordinary snacks, which I think is all they have.
The time is up to you visitors. Anytime is okay for me. We will need to get to the pier 30 minutes before departure, and we will need to take two buses even though it is a short distance from the Leo. Or we could get a cab or a couple of cabs. We live only once, and how many times are you coming to NYC?
I am interested in joining you for almost if not all the activities you are mentioning--tenement museum, Ellis Island, Broadway, and the Highline, for which I have an excellent map printed from the Internet. I'm planning to take a look there before you arrive.
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YES!!! Yes yes yes!! Ellis Island, let's go! I'll coordinate that one, let's go!
I know a lot of you have seen it already, I have NEVER been. You get a fantastic boat trip around the Statue of Liberty and view back of Manhattan, as well. I can't imagine the experience they went through, I am sure they would send me back, the changing of names to names which were pronounceable, YES!! Let's go!
YES Tenement Museum, they have guided tours of what those immigrants came into here. I think it would be a super experience to read some book, any book about the immigrant experience and then go thru Ellis Island and see the Tenement House --- maybe hear a talk. They have Tenement Talks about the experience, the one August 11 as well as the 15th look fabulous but we won't BE there on August 11 or 15! They also do guided walks thru the neighborhood.
I'd like a good weather day for our Ellis Island trip, so we can list it as an alternate to our schedule, giving people a choice.
So far we have:
ginny
Joan R
Meg?
Eloise
Lucy?
The Met is ominously silent on talks on our Sunday, but the previous months are absolutely packed with Roman and Greek talks, so I'm holding my breath. We need to be somewhat fluid in this most exciting of cities in the world, so we can wheel and choose, everybody with something they want to do. Everybody with a choice and people to do it with.
Our readers are very independent eclectic people, so they can choose or not what they'd like. I don't know what Andrea is planning but we'll offer Ellis Island, which is going to be an all day type of treat as an ALTERNATIVE trip for a good weather day (not, however, in opposition to the Hudson Cruise)...Away all boats! hahaha
The new issue of Newsweek recommends the following books on the Immigration Experience, how many have you read?
1. The Uprooted by Oscar Handlin, winner of the 1952 Pulitzer Prize in history...the European immigrant experience in the late 19h and early 20th centuries.
2. Strangers in the Land by John Higham 1955. American nativism exploring the roots of xenophobia.
3. The Mambo Kings Play Songs of Love by Oscar Hijuelos...Rich tale of the Castillo brothers, Cuban immigrants.
4. Netherland by Joseph O'Neill, set in post 9/11 New York, lively emotionally exacting story traces the fracturing of the Dutch born narrators family and the refuge he finds in the city's Caribbean0dominated subculture of cricket.
I've heard a lot about those last two.
I like Lewis Orde for immigrant stories, his novels are so rich.
More....
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I can't load the Tenement page, something is wrong with my satellite reception today, but if you can, please list any talk we might be able to hear there?
We get the NY Times and here is a list of Broadway and off Broadway shows, .
Patrick Stewart is coming September 21. Darn.
Bernadette Peters and Elaine Stritch are in A Little Night Music. I saw it last year with Angela Lansbury, and Catherine Zeta Jones, they were great, the show is OK but nothing to write home about UNLESS you want to see Bernadette Peters and Elaine Stritch.
I'm such a Philistine, I like to see stars sometimes on shows, go figure. I find you remember them after the show. The great Lion King is an exception, it's fabulous.
--American Idiot
--Billy Elliott
---Brief Encounter
---John O'Hurley in Chicago
---Come Fly Away.
James Earl Jones and Vanessa Redgrave coming in Driving Miss Daisey October, DARN!
---Fela!~
---Daniel Radcliffe comes in February in How to Succeed in Business...
---In the Heights
---Jersey Boys
---David Hyde Pierce and Joannja Lumley come 9/23 in Lat Bete
DRAT
---La Gage aux Folles...Kelsey Grammar and Dougas Hodge
Tony Shaloub (Monk) and Anthony LaPaglia leave August 15, DRAT
---Mama Mia
----Mary Popppins
---Memphis
---One Million Dollar Quartet
----Mrs. Warren's Profession
----Next to Normal
---Promises, Promises
---Rock of Ages
-----Nathan Lane and Bebe Neuwirth The Addams Family
---The Lion King
---Phantom of the Opera
----West Side Story
---- Wicked
And a BUNCH of off Broadway I don't type well enough to put in here. I really like Nathan Lane, maybe I should switch to see The Addams Family, it's at the Lunt Fontaine, easy access to Times Square, etc.
But check any of them out on Ticketmaster. We learned last year to get the half price tix at the South Street Seaport, just walk in and get half price and on to wherever you're going, good stop when going to Ellis Island, actually.
I REALLY like Nathan Lane. hmmmmmmm
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I just read Netherland and am going to a discussion of it tomorrow at the library. It's a wonderful book. There is a description of the Caribbean neighborhood where I used to live in Brooklyn, and the proposed site for the cricket field is near where I live now. The book has everything--sex, romance, family, adventure, and much about New York then and now.
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I've got that, Lucy, and have heard SO much about it, let us know how the discussion went at the Library?
If you all are planning to have tea with our authors at Sarabeth's, which is SO exciting, I can barely wait, you really want to come over to the discussion, ,link in Joan P's post in the heading of his book. A LOT of his book is at his website, and he is absolutely fabulous, it's become a discussion on life choices in general, in retirement, and in old age, and is not to be missed. Come on over, he's super.
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Ginny, yes. I would like to go to Ellis Island, also.
Re: Tenement Museum: I posted this link a while back – 97 Orchard Street by Jane Ziegelman. And that address is the site of the Tenement Museum. Somewhere I read that Ziegelman is either employed or is a volunteer at Tenement Museum.
97 Orchard (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/28/books/28book.html?_r=1&hpw)
In the meantime we have Jane Ziegelman’s modest but absorbing “97 Orchard: An Edible History of Five Immigrant Families in One New York Tenement.” The story it tells, about Old World habits clashing and ultimately melding with new American ones, is familiar. But Ms. Ziegelman is a patient scholar and a graceful writer, and she rummages in these families’ histories and larders to smart, chewy effect. Ms. Ziegelman, whose previous book, “Foie Gras: A Passion,” occupies a place at the plummier end of the food history spectrum, introduces us to the Glockners, the Moores, the Gumpertzes, the Rogarshevskys and the Baldizzis, who all lived at 97 Orchard Street, on the Lower East Side of Manhattan, between 1863 and 1935.
Here’s the link for the Tenement Museum.
Tenement Museum (http://www.tenement.org/)
In part, “97 Orchard” is about real estate. Ms. Ziegelman traces the history of tenement buildings in Manhattan, noting that they were the “first American residences built expressly for multiple families — in this case, working people.” By the start of the 20th century, she writes, “97 Orchard Street stood on the most densely populated square block of urban America, with 2,223 people, most of them Russian Jews, packed into roughly two acres.”
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Ginny
Try this link:http://ppc.broadway.com/ (http://ppc.broadway.com/)
There are clips, interviews, videos, etc.etc. If I were choosing, it would between "Jersey Boys" and "Million
Dollar Quartet". And I must include on other that really sounds good,too. That would be
an off Broadway show entitled, "Viagra Falls" which comes over as very funny without anything inappropiate.
Ginny again,
Yes, the deposit arrived. Sorry not to say so sooner. All is well. We have to FAX the final number by August 23, that is 14 business days before the 11th of Sept.
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To those who are choosing something on Broadway,
Mary says don't miss Jersey Boys! But if she and I choose, it would have to be the $1,000,000 Quartet since she has seen Jersey Boys.
I have list of 9 attendees at the Fraunces Tavern or The Bridge Cafe:
Ginny
Andy
Ann
Mary
Pedl'n
Zulema
Lucylibr
Gay
Jeanne (maybe)
If your name isn't here and it should be, please email me. Or if it is here and shouldn't be.
For Sarabeth's High Tea: 16 & 1 maybe
Our authors:
Mary Ann McFadden-"So Happy Together"-Our discussion-Aug 15 -Sept 5th.
Bruce Frankel-"What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life?" A Talking Heads topic in Aug.
Attendees:
Ginny
Andy
Mary
Ann (moi)
Pedl'n
Liz
Judy
Zulema
Gay
Eloise
LucyLib
Joan R
Meg
Vivian
Jeanne (maybe)
Again, if your name should or shouldn't be here please let me know by email. We need to make our reservations at Sarabeth's firm as to numbers.
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And don't forget, Ann, the two authors, for tea, that brings the attendees to 19. I am so excited about our First Ever Author's Tea, and I know we will totally enjoy both of them. Bruce is amazing, I can't get over him in the Talking Heads discussion!
Pedln, Yes I can't load the site of the Tenement House is what I'm saying, but I left it on yesterday as I ran errands and it did come up, several hours later (something is wrong with my satellite), boy I wish we were there in August, the 11th and the 15th particularly look fabulous but am not seeing anything while we were there. I DID see your link to 97 Orchard Street and a local walk and tour of the neighborhoods, tho. Both look fabulous, I especially would like to see that book, I may have to run by there.
I did start Netherlands, and the author lives in NYC, but for some reason I could not stick with it, despite some of it taking place in the Chelsea Hotel, right down from us, with a long long LONG association with famous writers, so instead started one written by the Senior Paleontologist at the Museum of Natural History ( the one London, not NYC, unfortunately) so will begin the Mambo Kings. I loved the movie.
I hadn't hear of the $1,000,000 Quartet, Ann, but I'm so glad Mary saw and recommends Jersey Boys. Maybe we could do a Theater Night, have a pre theater dinner, and all branch out. Most of the theaters are right there. The more I think of Nathan Lane the more I think I may need to see that one, he's really good.
I also read last night about Ellis Island, amazing facts. According to Fodior's New York City it received "the largest migration in human history:"
Between 1820 and 1880 it received:
3 million Germans
2.8 million Irish
2 million British
Between 1880 and 1930 it received
4.6 million from Italy
4.0 million from Austria- Hungary
3.3 million from Russia
2.8 million from Germany
2.3 million from Britain
2.3 million from Canada
1.7 million from Ireland
1.1 million from Sweden.
There's a great engraving I love, let me see if it's online. Yes, here it is:
(http://images.bridgeman.co.uk/cgi-bin/bridgemanImage.cgi/400wm.PNP.1989520.7055475/256712.jpg)
When they got here tho the streets were not paved with gold as you can see when you read the Tenement House site. I am so glad to be going at last!!
Everybody put on their track shoes, tho, it does appear to be a lot of walking!
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On last count up there including our authors, I got the numbers that I put up at the top. We only lost one. I've recounted them 4X this morning and I am still coming up with 16.
So if Jeanne writes me back and wants that room, I will tell her to contact you before 5pm on Friday, okay??
I remember wanting to see the Tenement Museum in '08 but because of the stairs we decided against it.
I would really like to get 97 Orchard St and read it and see this museum.
Ginny,
That's why I gave the link of Broadway.com. You can see and hear parts of all the different things that are available on the Great White Way. Here's the link to $1,000,000 Quartet:
http://ppc.broadway.com/shows/million-dollar-quartet/
"What Is the Story of Million Dollar Quartet?
Based on a real-life jam session of rock ’n’ roll gods Elvis Presley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Johnny Cash and Carl Perkins, Million Dollar Quartet reveals what happened at that historic meeting on December 4, 1956. With the holidays just around the corner, chart-topper Presley, a then unknown Lewis, rising star Cash and stalled up-and-comer Perkins find themselves assembled at Sun Records in Memphis, Tennessee, where their producer and manager Sam Phillips has business on his mind. In the rocking hour that follows, Phillips’ roster of extraordinary musical talent shows why and how they became four of the biggest names in music history."
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hahaa Ok I'll let you be the official counter, you're right, I just think positively.
Jeanne would need to contact Joyce asap, she'll cancel it by Sunday.
Yes I can see that much in the ad in the NY Times, sounds good also. But Nathan Lane? I think my choice is made. I like Bebe Neuwirth too.
But the theaters are pretty much all together, so we could do a Theater Night, assuming anybody is interested. :)
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We had an excellent discussion of Netherland at Brooklyn Public Library. I am pleased by how many people show up and how enthusiastic they are about the books we discuss. The leader puts a lot of work into the program.
I was able to check out a copy of the Bruce Frankel book and look forward to reading it.
Does anyone know anything about Vivian? She is away now on vacation, and she said she registered for the Latin class but still seemed unaware of our website. I am quite sure she wants to attend the dinner. I will try to see her for lunch before the soiree.
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Lucy,
Yes I have heard from Vivian concerning Sarabeth's. I will put her on both lists.
Ginny,
Nathan Lane??? He is not in $1,000,000 Quartet or "Viagra Blues". So what is he in??
I saw Bebe Neuwurth's name some where but thought she was in something else there.
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They are both in The Addams Family. :)
I've been reading more and more about Ellis Island and one site said your ticket includes free entrance to the Statue of Liberty, so if some of you want to seque there that opportunity exists, too. Seems a lot for your money.
It also means we're going to get a fantastic view of the Statue of Liberty, photo op, we'll take a group photo even if we don't disembark there.
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Ok I've written Lucy, Andrea and Ann. We finally have a Greek and Roman program at the Met, it's their Gallery Talks and Assisted Listening Devices are available. It's free, and I can tell you the one I attended on Stained Glass last winter was an eye opener and I'll never forget it. They use curators or assistant curators and you really learn something.
It's on the 10th of September, which is a Friday. It's open to all Latin students and anybody else who might like to come. We may have to adjust our schedule if Lucy is willing, (if I'm reading the schedule above correctly. It's called Gallery Talk
The Ancient Child
September 10, 2010
(FM assistive listening devices available)
Discover how children grew up in ancient Greece and Rome.
Michael B. Norris
Free with Museum admission
11:00 a.m., Tours Sign, Great Hall.
What a gift! These programs are to die for and to get one WITH assisted listening devices AND on ancient Greece and Rome is just a gift.
I guarantee you this man will give you more than that woman last time did. Very excited about this!!! YAY for the Met.
Sarabeths will be the next day, and you can precede that if you wish with anything including the events at the 9/11 site.
Oh boy.
We'll get a loose head count once we see if we can manage to schedule it in. I would like to go on the Hudson Cruise too, so we need to see what we can do here. If this works we'll reschedule the Ellis Island Excursion for Sunday September 12.
Remember, too, you can do anything any day out of the wide range of possibilities here.
Here are some books by Michael Norris online, it's obvious he knows the subject:
(Norris, Michael (Michael Byron))
* Norris, Michael (Michael Byron): Greek Art, From Prehistoric to Classical: A Resource for Educators (New York: Metropolitan Museum of Art, c2000) (PDF with commentary at metmuseum.org)
* Norris, Michael (Michael Byron): A Masterwork of Byzantine Art: The David Plates: The Story of David and Goliath (New York: Metropolitan Museum of Art, c2001), also by Esther M. Morales, Alice W. Schwarz, and Edith W. Watts (PDF with commentary at metmuseum.org)
* Norris, Michael (Michael Byron): Medieval Art: A Resource for Educators (New York: Metropolitan Museum of Art, c2005) (PDF with commentary at metmuseum.org)
Could NOT be better, if we can manage to schedule it! Am loose on Ellis Island.
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September 10 is a Friday, and an 11 am program at the Met sounds good. I remember that I enjoyed the last one, and those listening devices do work very well for me. Then there would be ample time in the afternoon - predinner hours for whatever folks wanted to do. Lunch at the Eataly? An afternoon visit to the Guggenheim? A busride to Union Square and people-watching, or to the Strand Bookstore? It's a long way to the Tenement Museum, so that might not be a practical choice. But the 11am timing makes this a good day for a two-doer.
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Yes - to Ellis Island, the Met, the Eately, Union Square, the Circle Cruise, Sarabeth.
Possibly - a Manhattan evening bus ride and/or a Broadway show, window shopping.
No - Tenement Museum and Ground Zero.
Is there time left for something else during the 4 days I will be in New York? Of course getting to and from all those places takes time too.
I am surprised that nobody mentioned the Cloisters Museum.
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Ginny,
I think the 10th is Andrea's day but I am sure she would give it up if asked nicely.
We go on the Lucy Hudson boat trip on the 9th, Thursday.
Pedl'n,
What time are we leaving for the High Line Park on the 11th. I noticed that they just received some permission for something at the Park in July.
I would like to return to our hotel and dress for our tea and that means leaving the hotel by 3pm to take the bus recommended by Joyce. I am just sure that I need to dress up. Hahaha!
Ginny,
Have never heard a word back from 2 emails that I sent to Zulema. I wonder if she is out of town??
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Here's a good story from a lady who I think contacted me when I was in charge of Author's Corner back in the dark ages on SN. She would certainly fit into one of Bruce's books.
http://www.authorsden.com/visit/viewarticle.asp?AuthorID=1713&id=11784
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Looking at our schedule --
Wed, 8 -- Dinner at Fraunces? or Bridge cafe? or ??
Thurs 9 -- Circle cruise -- three hours on board, plus travel time to get to it
Fri, 10 -- Met at 11 am
Sat, 11 -- 4-6 Sarabeth's
Sun, 12 -- would this be good for Ellis Island?
The short terms, unscheduled -- High Line Park, with maybe a visit to Chelsea Market nearby
Union Square, The Strand, shopping, Tenement museum.
Yes to Dinner Wed. night, Circle Cruise, Ellis Island, the Met, Sarabeths, High Line park w/Chelsea market
Hopefully -- UnionSquare/The Strand, eat at the Eataly, Tenement Museum
Probably not a Broadway show, maybe a foreign flick if one showing nearby. I already checked the Joyce Dance Theatre near Leo House, but nothing schedules while we're there.
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OK thank you Pedln, that's just what I need, I wrote Ann saying let's convert the Day 2 to a date and time, because obviously I can't tell which day is which!~ Once we're certain of those days and dates (are we?) we can fix the heading to change it.
Andrea says yes let's schedule the Met on the 10th at 11:00 (thank you, Andrea!) and then we can declare a FREE DAY after that for folks to go and do whatever they'd like. Or of course they can do any day as a free day. So Eloise, here's one day free from lunch on where you can hope to do all those things you want to do, I've got a ton of them myself. When does the Wollman Rink open? One of my favorite things in NYC is seeing the ice skating at Wollman Rink, but I think they don't ice it until the end of September, is that right?
I notice that the Food Network Channel is doing a huge cooking thing October 7ish Paula Deen, Bobby Flay, with lots of "foodie" celebrities on hand, drat. I'd like to see them, I think. I think their time in the spotlight is very limited, I personally think the foodie thing is a fad and going to die (probably from overexposure hahaha) so I am interested in it while it's a flash in the pan. :)
Then we'll schedule (for those wanting to go) Ellis Island for Sunday, we can be our own crowd of immigrants processing out. :)
So we'll get the new heading up asap, and you can plan your own shopping and touring of neighborhoods or tours of the city by bus or whatever delight of NYC you really want to savor, once we get it more defined. We don't want to KILL anybody with a schedule either.
The new issue of Food Magazine has the "best" eateries by specialty in the country and several are in NYC, so I will put them here shortly.
Andrea says she loves Nathan Lane but is not interested in the Addams Family and will check out what's on offer when she gets home, she's on the road, so am reporting for her.
Remember also, I think it was Ann? who asked a person who lived in the area where the best restaurant was and she said you're staying a few doors down from the best Italian restaurant in the city-- kind of a mom and pop place, I loved it, remember the portions that 6 could eat? I loved the entire family standing around. I just saw another one on tV last night, where authentic Italian food and a very limited menu is served, something about Restaurant wars, I'll look it up too.
I'd like to try that place two doors down again but there are tons of places in the hotel area you could eat at, too, cheaply and well, including a BBQ place and a Boston Market take out or eat there.
You can pretty much do anything you like in NYC. We've got our great tea at an award winning restaurant and two fabulous author speakers, a new event, so we'll eat well. Hopefully somebody will want a show on Broadway and we can eat at the Marquis revolving restaurant beforehand (or at any of the million other cheap and fast eateries at Times Square) and we can all go to the theater of our choice. I would see Jersey Boys instead of Nathan Lane if everybody wanted it.
Then we can take the Express Subway (only one other stop) right back to our hotel. Nothing to it. Lucy can tell us which one, I always get on the wrong subway: it's one of our traditions. :)
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And as far as the Eataly is concerned, yes yes yes!! 23rd street? REAL zabaglione? REAL gelato? If nothing else we could all have a cone there, great find Pedln! IS it open yet?
EATALY, a giant Italian food hall opening in a month or so on West 23rd Street near Fifth Avenue, is a culinary extravaganza, from arancini to zabaglione.
Patterned after the original in Turin, Italy, and created by the restaurateurs Joseph Bastianich and Mario Batali, the complex will have more than 20 retail departments, most with their own dining area.
Among the options for shopping and eating in the 36,500-square-foot space will be antipasti, salumi, pizza, fresh pasta, crudo and other seafood, roast meats sold by the pound, panini, dessert items, gelati and coffee.
Some retail areas will have dining counters. The fish monger and the produce area (where a “vegetable butcher” will prep your artichokes and such to order for cooking at home) will also have restaurants with waiter service.
The most elaborate dining area will be Manzo, a full-scale white-tablecloth Italian steakhouse with 80 seats. It is the only named restaurant in the place, and the only dining area that will take reservations. Michael Toscano, formerly of Babbo, is the chef.
The fish department, and its accompanying seafood restaurant, will be run by David Pasternack, the chef of Esca.
Shoppers will find an array of Italian products, imported and domestic. Cookbooks and housewares have their sales niches, and classes will be offered in a small cooking school.
Specialties made on the premises will include mozzarella, pasta, some cured meats, pastries and other baked goods. Nancy Silverton of La Brea Bakery and the Mozza restaurants in Los Angeles will oversee the bread and a range of focaccias.
A wine shop has an entrance on 23rd Street, and access to a counter for takeout pizza will be on 24th Street. A central wine bar will serve food gathered from the various departments. Dogfish Head beers will be made and sold at the 250-seat rooftop beer garden occupying another 6,000 square feet.
Alex Pilas, who ran private events at Del Posto, is the executive chef of the entire operation.
Oh boy, that's about as "foodie" as you get. Real gelato. Real zabaglione. Wow! I'll get my DIL some real pasta. YES! I vote YES! Cooking school. wow wow wow, please let it be open! (They may open it for that giant foodie convention tho).
I want that 97 Orchard Street book too.
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Eloise, the Cloisters, of course, is absolutely gorgeous and atmospheric, a bit out but doable. They also have tours and talks, it's part of the Met. For the Latin students, I was trying for the Met since the Cloisters is mostly Medieval, the Met has a lot of different things more, and since we did The Cloisters so well with the man himself, Thomas Hoving, in 1998, really anything else would be an afterthought, but happily the Met came through. I still can't believe our good luck. I can't believe they scheduled that thing, they must have heard we were coming. :)
I can tell you truly there is as much difference in speakers in these Gallery Talks and the Hired Speakers who talk generally, as there is in a walnut and an apple. We're going to love this one, and come away with a lot more than children: you watch. You'll have something to talk about over the Thanksgiving table, I guarantee it.
Then we can eat lunch there IN the Met (several options, some cheap) or go to one of the closest and famous eateries. I need to see the frescoes s from the Villa of P. Fannius Synistor house again, too, in the Met: they've just been recently totally restored and they are now thought (by some experts) to have belonged to Caeclius, the subject of the Cambridge Latin Course Book
It's an entire room, we breezed through it in its darkened form in 2008, it's now all bright as it once was, and is fabulous, don't miss it before you leave:
The surviving paintings are extremely fine examples of the late Second Style, the most renowned style in Roman wall painting. Throughout the frescoes from the villa at Boscoreale there are visual ambiguities to tease the eye, including architectural details painted to resemble real ones, such as rusticated masonry, pillars, and columns that cast shadows into the viewer's space, and more conventional trompe l'oeil devices, such as three-dimensional meanders. Objects of daily life were depicted in such a way as to seem real, with metal and glass vases on shelves and tables appearing to project out from the wall. Cumulatively, these trompe l'oeil devices reveal the Republican owner's evident pleasure in impressing guests at his comfortable summer retreat.
Luxury villas, like the one at Boscoreale, were often the setting for conspicuous consumption of Hellenistic art and culture by the Roman aristocracy. Although in public life, a senator aimed to cut a severe figure of traditional Roman values—austere, practical, conservative—his household and his villas were the settings for extravagant displays of refined living—of building, decorating, eating, and philosophizing. The inspiration for this came from the Greeks in the east, including the repertoire of ideas and the artists, decorators, and intellectuals. Roman villa architecture combined the core of a Roman house with peristyles and gardens borrowed from Greek gymnasia, palaces, and sanctuaries. The Roman aristocracy aimed to evoke the culture of Athenian academies, the charmed world of the Hellenistic pastoral, and the magnificence of Alexandrian palaces. Portraits of Greek philosophers and writers represented learning; statues of satyrs and nymphs re-created an idyllic Dionysian landscape; and wall paintings, rich in Greek myth and dynastic portraiture, provided majestic interiors.
Source: Boscoreale: Frescoes from the Villa of P. Fannius Synistor | Thematic Essay | Heilbrunn Timeline of Art History | The Metropolitan Museum of Art
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And last but possibly least hhhaha the September 2010 issue of Food Network Magazine (the new one) lists "America's Best:"
and the following in NYC for your possible interest. They will showcase these on the Food Network Channel September 20 to 23 at 9 pm Eastern time:
1. Best No Nonsense Pizza: Lucali of Brooklyn NY.
2. Best Spaghetti with Red Sauce: Scarpetta: scarpettanyc.com
3. PDT: pdtnyc.com
4. Keens Steakhouse: keens.com
5. Falai: souffle and desserts: falainyc.com
So those are 5 somebody might want to try.
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Ginny, do you have a fridge in your room for take home boxes??? Didn't we eat in that spaghetti place down the street??
For Mary and I, who have spent a whole day on Ellis Island and found our relatives bricks and photographed them, I am thinking the Tenament Museum would be a definite maybe. Is there anyone here who would prefer going there?? I will have to check in and see what they offer on Sunday.
And, as I have said before, don't miss the St Paul's Chapel down at the 9/11 site if you happen to be there. Its incredible!
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No I don't, maybe we could split a plate, some of us, much much too much food!
Ann, The Tenement House is a good alternative for Ellis Island. We'll go past the Statue of Liberty on our Circle Line Cruise Lucy is doing on the 9th, so IF the main attraction was the water and skyline and Statue viewing, you'll get that on the Circle Line. I think the Tenement House is a good alternate on Sunday or really anything you'd like to get up.
Ok Ann has confirmed Pedln's dates, so check out the heading this evening for a new look date wise.
Getting very excited here. If you go to the Tenement House and meet the author, get me one of her books 97 Orchard Street and I'll pay you back, I want those original recipies, unless they have it at Ellis Island which they may.
WHEE!!
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And listen, always, always, you are free to do whatever interests you. We know our readers are independent people. Our chief concern is to HAVE something on schedule and somebody to do it WITH should that appeal to you. If not, do your own thing of course! :)
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I think, for me, the Ellis Island trip will take precedence over the river cruise since I've been on that cruise twice in the past. It's really great and I'd certainly recommend it to anyone. However, I have never been to Ellis Island and would love to go!
I wish I could get to the tenement museum too - never been there!
The Met guided tour sounds terrific! A must!
Sarabeth's! Oboy!
Hanging out with Pedln and Eloise at Union Square & maybe getting a few blocks further downtown to the Strand sounds like a very good thing to do. We could eat in the Whole Foods there on 14th St.
I hope to get to do the High Line Park and the Chelsea Market.
I'm with Pedln on giving a miss to the B'way shows - too expensive plus my hearing is not so hot! I think a good foreign film is a great idea. Surely there will be some.
Aha! Eataly!!!!! Hope it's ready for us!
What a Soiree this is going to be!!
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Ginny,
I would be changing the listing for the Fraunces Inn Tavern to The Bridge Cafe but I have completely forgotten how to do all this. We have reservations at 6pm.
And here's link to the menu: You have to look on the left side and click on the Dinner menu for meals but you can also pick and choose from the Chef's Selections(below the Dinner menu clickable) which are available every day but do change as to what is offered. I read up on their chef and he is pretty cool.
Be sure to read the history of this place. Velly intelesting! As Charlie Chan used to say!! Good grief, am I dating myself? ;D
http://bridgecafenyc.com/New_York_Restaurant_cafe_Tavern/the-menu/
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A 6 pm dinner for Wed. night is good, Ann, for those of us getting in mid-afternoon. And they also give bus directions as well as subway. Easy, 1 transfer, two minute walk.
Does anyone know what Strata Bercovici is -- that's on their dinner menu.
I've been on the Circle Cruise once -- three years ago and it was great. So now am debating about going on it again, or maybe something else that is also exciting. We always do this, don't we, find way too many exciting and interesting things to do.
JoanR, if the weather is nice, you can also buy lunch at a kiosk in Union Square.
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AND in today's New York Times we can see in their Book section a review of 97 Orchard Street! It looks perfectly marvelous, too bad we can't read it before we go. I don't know which would be better, to read it before or get it IN NYC.
Are we au courant here or what?
I don't know what that is on the menu but remember we've got Eloise, she can wow any restaurant with her French and she's a fabulous cook besides, so HEY NYC here we come! hahhaha
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I haven't been here for a couple of weeks. My 14-yr-old grandson was visiting from Japan and we had the most wonderful visit in the city and out of town. He hadn't been here for three years, though I saw him in Japan in February. Anyway, a couple of answers from me.
I sent a check to Ado Annie for Sarabeth as soon as I received an e-mail, but had not received any before, and that one came through the Senior network rather than my e-mail, which is listed under my profile. And I am very happy we are going to dinner at the Bridge Cafe rather than at Fraunces Tavern.
Pedln, I think, asked about the Strata Bercovici. It's explained as Grilled vegetables with a "name" goat cheese with roasted beet risotto.
Is the guided tour at the Met on Friday just for our group? Do I need to put my name in? And are we having lunch with our guide? Or am I presuming? The American Wing atrium has reopened and is also a beautiful area under glass, and there is a café there and a lot of tables. It's just café fare, sandwiches and salads, etc., and reasonable, as is the cafeteria in the basement. Nothing is really cheap, but this is New York. All of the eating places get crowded, but this will be early enough since we start the tour at 11.
I'll just throw in a caveat or two, as is my usual habit. The trip to Ellis Island takes up a good part of the day. The Tenement Museum has a variety of different tours. Some of them don't go all the way up, some do and there are a lot of steps. And some of the neighborhood walking tours don't go in to 97 Orchard St. Those who are interested should look at the website which is very informative and has a lot of linked explanations for each tour.
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Zulema
So glad you are coming to Sarabeth's with us!
Thanks for info about Ellis and 97 Orchard St.
Sounds like you will be with us for almost all planned! That is great!
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September 8-12, 2010
Everyone is invited!
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Autumn in New York, (are you singing?) What could be finer?
Based on the resounding success of our 10th Anniversary Gathering in NYC in 2008, we thought we'd try it again!~
Our Hotel: The Leo House: "The Little Heart in the Big City," with the best rates you'll find anywhere.
Hotel Information and Rates (http://www.seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/leohouse.html)
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Garden at the Leo House
If you are a Latin student, come meet some of your classmates, for a fun filled day or weekend:
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Classics Students at the Met, NYC 2008
Brief Schedule Outline
See below for details and plan to join us:
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Sept 8th-Wednesday: --Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM) for details. Ann plans for us to meet at the Fraunces Tavern Museum at 3pm. When the museum closes at 5pm, we'll walk to the Bridge Cafe, also historic, for dinner. Our reservation is for 6 pm. Fraunces Tavern is where George Washington and his generals met after or during the Revolution. The Bridge Cafe (http://bridgecafenyc.com/New_York_Restaurant_cafe_Tavern/the-menu/)
Thursday 9/9: --LucyLibr--plans a cruise on the Hudson. Contact: Lucy (Lucylibr@aol.com) for details.
Friday 9/10
Morning at the Met:
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9:45: Join us for a private tour of the Met with Assisted Listening Devices on a surprise topic of interest to us all! They are working on it now and it should be unforgettable!
---Followed by Lunch in the Atrium Cafe under the glass.
---Followed by a short seque open to all to see the Cubiculum of Villa of P. Fannius Synistor, and the Monteleone Chariot! See email.
---After Lunch: Free Afternoon at Leisure
Saturday 9/11: Our First Author's Tea at the award winning Sarabeth's, see below! -
Sunday 9/12 Those wanting to go to Ellis Island will convene in the Lobby of the Leo. As an alternative, Ann plans a trip to the Tenement Museum. OR just do your own thing! Contact: ginny (gvinesc@gmail.com) for details.
Other Enticements:
Alf is planning a Surprise! Contact: Andrea (WFlannery@cfl.rr.com) for details.
Pedl'n plans a day at the newest NYC park, the High Line. http://www.thehighline.org/ (http://www.thehighline.org/) Contact: Pedln (ann.bartlett@att.net) for details.
Additional Possibilities:
The short terms, unscheduled -- High Line Park, with maybe a visit to Chelsea Market nearby, Union Square, The Strand, shopping, Tenement museum, Botanical Gardens, Etaly if open, a Broadway Show, Algonquin or Chelsea Hotels, concerts, opera, bus tour of NYC, etc.
Monday 9/13: : Travel Day: Departure
New!!
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9/11: Our First Ever Author Tea at Sarabeth's on Central Park between 5th and 6th Avenue: This is our room! (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/Sarabethsskylightroom.jpg)
Join us on September 11 in this award winning restaurant looking out on the Park for one of their famous Teas, at less than half price, $10 only, no tax, and enjoy meeting our authors, Bruce Frankel, and Maryann McFadden:
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"I can think of no writer I'd rather have sing me songs of the sea, even sad ones, than Maryann McFadden."---Anne Rivers Siddons
We'll be discussing Maryann McFadden's book, here on SeniorLearn beginning August 15 - at
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Bruce Frankel’s book, "What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life" is inspirational! "This upbeat, inspiring, timely book shows how taking a risk and fighting to find a passionate career — at any age — can reinvigorate your life...”— Susan Shapiro
Come join Bruce now - and be inspired!
Talking Heads ~ "What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life" (http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=1572.0)
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As a New Yorker would say, "What's not to like?"
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Oh how wonderful, your grandson from Japan! Zulema is such a TRIP I wish I could have been a fly on that wall.
Those of you who know NYC, is it safe to walk at 5 pm from Fraunces to the Bridge Cafe?
Zulema, this: The American Wing atrium has reopened and is also a beautiful area under glass, and there is a café there and a lot of tables. It's just café fare, sandwiches and salads, etc., and reasonable, as is the cafeteria in the basement. Nothing is really cheap, but this is New York. All of the eating places get crowded, but this will be early enough since we start the tour at 11 sounds perfect. Do they take reservations? If so we can get a head count and make one. It sounds JUST the perfect experience to end our trip to the Met.
It sounds like just the place for us, we've done the cafeteria, and the rooftop, let's try a "beautiful area under glass". Sometimes I feel I should be pickled under glass anyway. hahahaa
I am so glad you asked this:
Is the guided tour at the Met on Friday just for our group? Do I need to put my name in? And are we having lunch with our guide? Or am I presuming?
No, it is not just for us, it's a rare gift we stumbled into.
You can't hire this guy like we did the other woman. He's
Associate Museum Educator and some websites have him Director of Family Programs for the Met. He's not a general docent for hire like the woman in 2008. This is one of their famous Gallery Talks, which are absolutely fabulous. This is the reason I strongly advise Assisted Listening Devices, which are available for this tour, or I do, because the last time I went last year there were at least 20 people, including one entire senior art class, and a lot of others, and one needed to angle at each pause so as to hear properly and I've got the hearing of an owl.
There is no telling how many people may attend on the 11th, it's open to the public. I could kiss his feet for offering it on OUR watch, it's the only one scheduled the entire time, on Classics topics. We are so lucky!! That's why we want to get there early and get the listening devices (tho I know some don't want them). If you do have one you might be glad. I am hoping we can get a group photo tho.
I'll definitely consider your name put in, maybe I do need to get up a less than informal head count from our group. Let me go back and get up a list, I've got you, Eloise and Joan R (I agree!! Are you 2 or 1 for this one, Joan?)
Gosh I'm sure Mr. Norris won't be coming to lunch, but it's a nice thought. He's written at least three books on Greek and Byzantine Art and is on Museum Staff in the Education Department. He's right up your alley, Zulema: an educator whose specialty seems to be Greek art: here's one of his books available in the Met Store:
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The lesson plans, slides, posters, texts, and other materials in this tote box provide many tools and approaches for creative use in the teaching of Greek art. Among the contents of this resource are a map of the ancient Greek world; a brief history of Athens from the sixth to the fourth century B.C.; a look at key aspects of fifth-century Greek life, including myths and religion, philosophy and science, music, poetry, sports, the symposium, and warfare; discussions of Greek art, artists, and materials on the influence of Greek subjects in the art of other eras; suggested activities and lesson plans; a timeline; a bibliography and a videography; and a guide to web resources.
I have a feeling we'll emerge knowing a great deal about ancient life we didn't. It's just so perfect for us, a gift.
And look Eloise, he'd be perfect for the Cloisters, too:
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Medieval Art: A Resource for Teachers (also by Michael Norris)
We need to get there early, what's the best way to go quickly from the Leo House, New Yorkers?
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The ALDs worked well two years ago at the Met. I'm assuming they will again. Put me on your list, Ginny.
Zulema, re: Strata Ber . . . . I think the grilled veggies and the risotto are the side dishes, not the entre.
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Ok, Pedln, you're ON! Here's the menu for the American Wing Cafe, I saw it when we did the Stained Glass, it IS airy, the tables as I recall are small tho that should not be a problem.
http://www.metmuseum.org/visit/dining/american_menu
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I tell you what, let's rephrase this a little bit. Is there anybody NOT planning to go to the Met on Friday morning? If not, will you email me? That would include your party, if you are 2 people and one is not coming, would you email me?
You realize this is our THIRD author we're hearing speak in this brief time? Don't let anybody tell you we're not about Books AND Classics. :)
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And if Eloise asks him what he is doing at the Cloisters that week or we ask him to join our tea at Sarabeth's, we can say we hit the jack pot of authors for this trip.
Yes, Mary and I will be at the Met.
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Thank you! The Cloisters schedule of talks is on the Internet and it would make a super trip also if anybody is interested!~
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It's a good thing we're all thinking aloud here, in looking up Michael Norris' email (they don't provide one) I found a bunch of stuff on Groups going to the Met, there seem to be some advantages in going as a Group, and the advance notice is 4 weeks, so we've just squeaked under the wire. This means I probably will need to have a head count.
It appears we get an incredible discount, too, stay tuned.
Meanwhile, we've got:
ginny
Eloise
Pedln
Ann
Mary
Joan R
Meg?
Zulema
Lucy?
Gay
Who else?
Vivian?
Andrea?
I think, (if I remember correctly) that I prepay the entrance fees and we go in a separate way, bypassing all the lines, etc., and they have the Listening stuff ready. But we'll see. This appears definitely the way to go! I'm so glad you mentioned contacting him.
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A well planned trip is so much more enjoyable I think, there are no loose ends.
Is there a benefit on buying the New York Pass? Am I going to use it enough to make it worth while? I know it includes the Metropolitain of Modern Art but I don’t think that is the same as the Met you all are talking about. But it does include the Circle Cruise and other venues I don’t know if I will take yet.
Today I got my US currency, not much because I will have my credit cards which I prefer. Once arrived in NY I will see about getting some coins for buses and such. Here in Canada we have one and two dollar coins, we use a pouch to carry them. Nonono, just joking.
If I can squeeze in St. Pat’s Cathedral I would love to see it.
Pedln and JoanR, then let’s try and go eat lunch in Union Square, I Googled it and it looks like the Farmer’s Market we have in Montrea ll.
I will try and get a Manhattan bus map from the Tourist Office in Montreal.
Pedln, I returned the Kindle as I was disappointed in too many areas to want to keep it.
Ginny, French cooking? Yes in my own kitchen but it’s rather called extreme nutrition in small portions, like a complete dinner that fits in a saucer. I can take the train thinking about all those wonderful memories of my special visit in New York City with special friends. Thank you all for making this trip a memorable one for me. It might very well my last trip, who knows.
Zulema, that would be another grandson than the one who came to Montreal because he was about 15 then, a lovely boy, Anthony that you met is now 17 and 6.1, still a charmer.
A foreign film Joan and Anne? Do you want a French movie with English subtitles? I Googled it and NYC has several theatres, that would be super, La Vie En Rose, the life of Edith Piaff is a good film but I don’t know if it is still playing.
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I would love to go to the Cloisters--have never been there. Anybody up for that?
I hope to attend a program at the Tenement Museum this week--will let you know how it is. Lucy
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Oh are you going to the one about Hot Time in the City on the 15th? It looks fabulous. Will you see if the woman who wrote the 97 Orchard Street book is there, or if the book is there?
Eloise, yes the "Met" is the Metropolitan Museum of Art and it might include the Cloisters, too.
If you all are going to the Cloisters, you really MUST read King of the Confessors first, it's by Thomas Hoving, former Director of the Cloisters first and then the Met. It's about the Bury St. Edmund's Cross, one of the treasures of the Cloisters, so you can have a real insider's look before you go and is probably the best book you'll ever read. I loved it.
It was about how Hoving found and brought the cross to the Cloisters.
He did a sequel to it, answering some of the questions, but it's an e book and needs to be downloaded.
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The talk is Thursday, Aug. 12.
I have to finish Pillars of the Earth and am somewhat befind in my reading for the NYC visit. It sounds interesting, glad to know about it.
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How IS Pillars of the Earth? I have heard a lot about it.
Ok here we are for the Metropolitan Museum of Art on Friday September 10 at 11:00, Michael Norris speaking on The Ancient Child; lunch follows in the Atrium. Group rate and perks, Assisted Listening Devices, yay!
ginny
Eloise
Pedln
Ann
Mary
Joan R
Meg?
Zulema
Lucy
Gay
Vivian?
Andrea
Who else? Great time to get in the Met which of course is full of so many earthly delights. Possibly a concert that evening, it's Friday, I'll look.
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Ginny- as alwys count me in. If everyone else is going, I am in. Eloise, I will go with you to St. Pats if you would like. Last time Ginny and I headed there we got off course.
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Great!! Ok, burning questions, New Yorkers:
1. Does Eloise want to buy the NYC Pass? Is she going to use it enough to merit the cost? What does it cover, Eloise and how much is it? Our entrance to the Met, normally $34 suggested for adults, $15 for seniors, will be free. You can't get that anywhere else but us!
2. What is the quickest way to the Met from the Leo House, Cab? Hired Car? I k now it's not a combination of subway and bus and I don't think any bus goes all the way, does it?
3. Is it safe to walk at 5:00 pm from Fraunces Tavern Museum to the Bridge Cafe?
That's for starters. Out of Towners, NYC is not Disney World, we need to have our purses across the chest at all times, lest we go home without it. I have seen them snatch one on the street fast as lightning.
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Ginny- I would venture to say that NY City is safer now than it was when I lived there in the 60's. 9/11 changed that attitude.
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I asked my subway consultant about the trip from Leo House to Met.
The Answer:Take A train from 23rd to 81st and Central Park West. From there take M79 bus directly to the Met.
What are you doing at Tavern on the Green? It is closed and my consultant says there is nothing of interest in its place. Bridge Cafe is in lower Manhattan, right? That would be a long walk from the upper West Side.
Well, sure, be careful, but I am not afraid to walk around NYC or Rockaway at night. The biggest danger is tripping and falling where the light is not good.
Pillars of the Earth is a formidable novel with lots of sex, violence, and unbelievable happenings. It is biased in favor of women, the strong women who could triumph in a society hostile to their having any power. It is fascinating, an excellent read, and the information about architecture, which I assume is accurate, is most informative, as well as life in those times. I'm coming to the end and would like to read more about the background and what the author has to say.
When the series came out recently, which I have not seen, people kept telling me what a great novel it is and what I was missing, so I am reading it. A woman on the bus saw me reading it and told me how much she liked it and the sequel and that she is looking forward to a third historical novel by Follett. I don't know if I am up to all that. This woman was probably not studying Latin; she was headed to the library!
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One day pass $75 - Two day pass $120 - Three day pass $125. It covers:
•Circle Line River Cruise
•Empire State Building
•Guggenheim Museum
•Statue of Liberty
•New York Skyride
•Top of the Rock
•Madame Tussaud's
•The Metropolitan Museum of Art
•Food on Foot Tours
•King Tut Exhibition
The Met is free you say Ginny. I don't think it's possible or desirable to try and squeeze in too many things in one or two days that the pass covers.
We alI loved Pilars of the Earth. I might reread it, something I do very rarely.
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Hmm, Tut Exhibition. And the Guggenheim. For one day it might be a close call, but it depends on what you had planned to see on that one day. The Met is not free, if you go look on their website, the "suggested" donations are:
Recommended
Adults $20
Seniors (65 and older) $15
Students $10*
Members (Join Now) Free
Children under 12 (accompanied by an adult) Free
To help cover the costs of special exhibitions, we ask that you please pay the full recommended amount.
This can be found here: http://www.metmuseum.org/visit/general_information/
In order to get the Assisted Listening Devices, you have to have the little button which comes with the admission prices, in other words, you have to have paid entry. They are clear on this too. Those free students have to be from New York. Our "free" is courtesy of SeniorLearn. :)
I know some people never pay anything. I THINK, somebody correct me, that to get in the exhibitions (should you desire to) you need to have paid. I don't know.
What do you all think on the NY Pass?
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Lucy, thank you on Pillars of the Earth. I've heard a lot about it too, and I appreciate hearing your review. Thank you for the directions, too. I am wondering if we took the express to Times Square if we then could catch a cab to the door? Seems like and I could be wrong, cabbies don't want to go to the Met from 23rd street. In fact I found in December they really did not want to go to 23rd Street from Times Square.
Perhaps they make a lot more money on short trips. I really don't want to get stuck in traffic or futz around with changes, lots of steps, etc., on that particular day. We could leave very early tho. Obsess obsess.
PLANNING as Eloise says.
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Cloisters is included in Met ticket, but they close at 5:15, so you really wouldn't have a whole lot of time there after a Met tour, lunch, and bus/subway. It looks like you can get an M4 bus on Madison Ave. and it goes practically to the Cloisters door? I use a walker when I'm galavanting around the big city, so I use feet, cabs, and buses, but not subways. Leo HOuse will put on a taxi light which means the taxis will stop there. They took me, I guess they'll take anybody. :P
Also, one can use a car service. Last time Leo HOuse had one they recommended and I used it to get to the airport. And will probably use one to get to Brooklyn on Monday.
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Lucy,
We aren't walking from the Met to the Bridge Cafe. We are walking from the Fraunces Tavern Museum to the Bridge Cafe on the first night--Sept 8th. We are meeting at the Fraunces from 3pm to 5pm or so, then we have a 15 minute walk up to the Bridge Cafe. I planned on giving us way more time to do the walk after we leave the museum.
Eloise,
I don't see The Cloisters on that list so does our entry into the Met on Friday which is for a personal tour with the listening devices and lunch give you enough time to go up to the Cloisters?? Mary and I did that trip vicey-versy in '98 along with Joan Grimes and her cousin. We left the Cloisters around 4pm on a Sat. and took the subway to the Met via a bus also. The Met closes later than Cloisters on weekends.
Looks like you would only get your River Cruise paid for in buying that pass. Mary and I bought the transportation pass both times we went with this group. The price is good and it does get you around faster. I think its $35 dollars for a 7-day pass and maybe you could get it for less like a 3 or 4 day pass.
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I knew it was too good to be true.
We do have a SNAFU with the Met now, a hitch in our get along. I'm about to write all of you, we have several options, I'd like to do what you all would enjoy most. I've been talking to them and also to (as of 10 minutes ago) the Cloisters about a guided tour of the Cloisters in place of the Met, since some of you have not been and we did go thru the Cloisters rather fast, perhaps, tho we'll never be with such a bright light again.
SHOULD the Met tour not work out, WOULD you be interested in substituting the Cloisters which has a lot more than we saw (they have an entire program on plants, the gardens, the representation of the plants in art at the Cloisters, etc., alone to the public). At any rate you can pick a theme like art, literature, (?) history, religion, and it's a gorgeous venue.
I'll write you in a mo, once the baby goes down for his nap and I hear back from the Met itself, we have until tomorrow for the Cloisters. Sorry for the problem. :)
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Does that poor kid know you still refer to him as the baby? How about your little fella'? Isn't he almost four now??
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He's 3 1/2. :)
We've been digging in the garden all morning, in the barn, under the hay loft, and in the woods. Lovely idyllic day...until. Everybody should have a letter from me now, let's see what happens.
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Ok we're getting a lot of suggestions and they are good, I appreciate everybody's wonderful spirit here.
The Cloisters has a cafe: the menu is very nice:
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(Seasonal) The Trie Café at The Cloisters Museum and Gardens ($)
Hours: April through October: Tuesday–Sunday: 10:00 a.m.–4:15 p.m.; Closed Mondays.
Location: Lower level in the Trie Cloister at The Cloisters Museum and Gardens in Fort Tryon Park, Northern Manhattan. See The Cloisters Museum and Gardens for more information, including directions.
Details: Self-service sandwiches, snacks, dessert, cold beverages, and coffee served outdoors under the covered arcades and walkway of the medieval French Trie Cloister. See a sample menu. Children are welcome.
That's actually quite nice. Still working on it.
http://www.metmuseum.org/visit/dining/trie_menu
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Pedln,
The Strata is made of Grilled vegetables with Goat Cheese. It's a layered vegetable torte, well, a strata. The risotto is the side dish.
Eloise,
They grow up so quickly, bless them! Nicholas, whom you met, is now 20 and 6'1 also, and will be a junior in college next month, majoring in Math. Jordan, the 14-yr-old, is my oldest daughter's son. He was born and has been raised in Japan, though neither of his parents is Japanese.
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Ginny,
Purses across the chest? New York is one of the safest large cities in this country. During the season, I often come home alone at close to 1 AM on the subway from the other Met (the Opera). Of course there are unsafe places, but I don't think any of the plans and suggestions puts one anywhere remotely near them.
Aren't Group Talks at the Met specially designed and planned? Michael Norris's talk is a regularly scheduled one for everyone so it seems to me it can't be turned into a Group Talk. What is wrong with getting to the Museum at 10:30 or so, going through admissions on the Ground Floor, South of the grand entrance, and then going to the meeting place for Gallery tours and talks, which is on the First Floor all the way at the North end of the Great Hall? Am I missing something?
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Thank you, Zulema, I took that up with them yesterday. What's wrong is if we appear to be a group more than 6 who obviously know each other, if the crowd is large, that group may have to be turned away. They've been steadfast on this point even when pleaded with.
I can certainly understand in one of the greatest museums in the world how you can't just turn up for a scheduled talk with 90 people. The meeting place for the Gallery Talks is the same place we met our guide last time.
I THINK this morning I have a solution which should please everybody. Cross fingers and toes, and let me talk to the Met again.
I do want to say how impressed I am, as always, with this group of people, who are SO wonderfully supportive, generous, and cooperative. THAT alone has already made a super memory, and you know we always rise to the top (like cream) and end up with a better outcome than we first imagined. Thank you all.
Good to hear about the safety factor, thank you It'a always so good to have people who live where we're going who know the ropes. I think, still, for those coming from areas and places, like I do, where people think nothing of leaving their purse at a table and going back for seconds, that we might want to be a little more safety conscious than we normally are at home. Depending of course on where you live. :)
Exciting, huh? hahahaa Love it. I love the challenges in travel.
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ALL RIGHTIE THEN!! We're ROLLING now. I knew there was a way to have our cake and eat it too, I'm that kind of person and I really wanted the best for all of us.
We have our tour, it's at 9:45, a private tour of the Met, and the subject is going to be a surprise, but it's something of interest to us as a Books group, something you can take home with you, your new found knowledge. See my email for more particulars.
Those who were losing sleep over not seeing Mr. Norris can sleep again, as a few individuals you can definitely see him. AND our own customized group tour. So it's win/ win.
We'll definitely eat in the Atrium Court, versus the group price of $65 each at the Petrie Court. I did want a lovely memory but that's too lovely. hahahaa They say the Atrium is self serve, we will repair after our tour there and have a lovely brunch starting at 11:00, a nice together time, see email again.
Then it's FREE time from 12:00 on! Your "button" will allow you to enter the Cloisters free today should you desire to go. The Met itself is open till 9 pm Friday night.
However, I hope our Latin students should they desire to, and I hope they will, can go with me (and anybody else is definitely welcome) to the newly restored dazzling Cubiculum (bedroom) from the Villa of P. Fannius Synistor at Boscoreale. My feelings will NOT be hurt if you feel ready to move on after lunch, however. :)
But why be there and not see this new restoration?
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Since this is now thought by many to be the actual farm home of Caecilius, we really want to see this thing in its dazzling new appearance, cleaned and bright.
Boscoreale, an area about a mile north of Pompeii, was notable in antiquity for having numerous aristocratic country villas. This tradition endured into the time of the Bourbon kings, as is attested by the region's name, the "Royal Forest," which implies that Boscoreale was a hunting preserve. Some of the most important wall paintings surviving from antiquity come from a Roman villa at Boscoreale built shortly after the middle of the first century B.C. The villa, which was buried by the eruption of Vesuvius in 79 A.D., is referred to as the Villa of P. Fannius Synistor, one of its owners during the first half part of the first century A.D. Excavated in the early 1900s, the villa's frescoes are among the most important to be found anywhere in the Roman world.
The villa at Boscoreale is a variant of the so-called villa rustica, a country house of which only a small part functioned as a farmhouse (pars rustica). The majority of the villa served as a residence for the owner, a member of that class of wealthy Roman citizens who owned more properties of this kind and used them as country houses. The painted decoration of the villa at Boscoreale, which was executed sometime around 40–30 B.C., attests to the original owner as a rich man with exquisite taste. The fact that the mid-first-century B.C. decoration was not replaced by another, more contemporary, decoration in the first century A.D. is a clear indication that there was already an awareness of the quality of the frescoes in antiquity.
The surviving paintings are extremely fine examples of the late Second Style, the most renowned style in Roman wall painting. Throughout the frescoes from the villa at Boscoreale there are visual ambiguities to tease the eye, including architectural details painted to resemble real ones, such as rusticated masonry, pillars, and columns that cast shadows into the viewer's space, and more conventional trompe l'oeil devices, such as three-dimensional meanders. Objects of daily life were depicted in such a way as to seem real, with metal and glass vases on shelves and tables appearing to project out from the wall. Cumulatively, these trompe l'oeil devices reveal the Republican owner's evident pleasure in impressing guests at his comfortable summer retreat.
Luxury villas, like the one at Boscoreale, were often the setting for conspicuous consumption of Hellenistic art and culture by the Roman aristocracy. Although in public life, a senator aimed to cut a severe figure of traditional Roman values—austere, practical, conservative—his household and his villas were the settings for extravagant displays of refined living—of building, decorating, eating, and philosophizing. The inspiration for this came from the Greeks in the east, including the repertoire of ideas and the artists, decorators, and intellectuals. Roman villa architecture combined the core of a Roman house with peristyles and gardens borrowed from Greek gymnasia, palaces, and sanctuaries. The Roman aristocracy aimed to evoke the culture of Athenian academies, the charmed world of the Hellenistic pastoral, and the magnificence of Alexandrian palaces. Portraits of Greek philosophers and writers represented learning; statues of satyrs and nymphs re-created an idyllic Dionysian landscape; and wall paintings, rich in Greek myth and dynastic portraiture, provided majestic interiors.
Department of Greek and Roman Art, The Metropolitan Museum of Art
Source: Boscoreale: Frescoes from the Villa of P. Fannius Synistor | Thematic Essay | Heilbrunn Timeline of Art History | The Metropolitan Museum of Art
And the Monteleone Chariot: Etruscan:
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This is upstairs we ran up and looked at it 5 minutes, let's look again, knowing this:
Chariot, late 6th century b.c.
Etruscan; From Monteleone, Italy
Bronze
H. 51 1/2 in. (130.8 cm)
Rogers Fund, 1903 (03.23.1)
Description
Scenes from the life of the Greek hero Achilles
The Acquisition
In 1902, a landowner working on his property accidentally discovered a subterranean built tomb covered by a tumulus (mound). His investigations revealed the remains of a parade chariot as well as bronze, ceramic, and iron utensils together with other grave goods. Following the discovery, the finds passed through the hands of several Italian owners and dealers who were responsible for the appearance of the chariot and related material on the Paris art market. There they were purchased in 1903 by General Luigi Palma di Cesnola, the first director of The Metropolitan Museum of Art.
The Monteleone chariot is the best preserved example of its kind from ancient Italy before the Roman period. The relatively good condition of its major parts--the panels of the car, the pole, and the wheels--has made it possible to undertake a new reconstruction based on the most recent scholarship. Moreover, some of the surviving ivory fragments can now be placed with reasonable certitude.
The other tomb furnishings acquired with the chariot are exhibited in two cases on the south wall of this gallery.
The Form and Function of the Chariot
Chariots originated in the Ancient Near East during the early second millennium B.C. and spread westward through Egypt, Cyprus, and the Greek world. In the predominant early type, the car consisted essentially of a platform with a light barrier at the front.
On the Italian peninsula, the largest number of chariots come from Etruria and the surrounding regions. They are datable between the second half of the eighth and the fifth centuries B.C. and represent several varieties. None seems to have been used for fighting in battle. Most came to light in tombs; after serving in life, they were buried with their owners, male and also female.
The Monteleone chariot belongs to a group of parade chariots, so called because they were used by significant individuals on special occasions. They have two wheels and were drawn by two horses standing about forty-nine inches (122 centimeters) apart at the point where the yoke rests on their necks. The car would have accommodated the driver and the distinguished passenger.
The shape of the car, with a tall panel in front and a lower one at each side, provided expansive surfaces for decoration, executed in repoussé. The frieze at the axle, the attachment of the pole to the car, and the ends of the pole and yoke all have additional figural embellishment.
The Materials of the Chariot
Although none of the substructure of the original chariot survives, except in one wheel, much information can be gleaned from details on the bronze pieces, other preserved chariots, and ancient depictions of chariots. Note that a chariot is represented on the proper left panel of the car.
The preserved bronze elements of the car were originally mounted on a wooden substructure. The rails supporting the three main figural panels were made from a tree such as a yew or wild fig. The floor consisted of wooden slats. The wooden wheels were revetted with bronze, an exceptional practice probably reserved only for the most elaborate chariots. A bit of the preserved core has been identified as oak. The tires are of iron. The sections of the pole were mounted on straight branches.
A major component of the original vehicle was leather applied to the wooden substructure. The connection of the pole to the car would have been reinforced by rawhide straps gathered beneath the boar's head, and the yoke would have been lashed to the pole. The upper end of the pole shows traces of the leather bands. In addition, all of the horses' harness was of leather. Moreover, rings of pigskin with the fat attached helped reduce friction between the moving parts of the wheels.
The Monteleone chariot is distinguished not only by the extraordinary execution of the bronze panels but also by the inclusion of ivory inlays. The ivories, from both elephant and hippopotamus, are so fragmentary that only the tusks of the boar and the finials at the back of the car have been placed in their original positions. The remaining pieces are exhibited in a case on the south wall. A series of long narrow strips served as edging, perhaps around the panels of the car or on the underside of the pole. It is possible that other fragments filled the spaces between the figures in the central panel of the car. A major question concerning these adjuncts is the method of their attachment, requiring the use of an adhesive. Another question is whether the ivories were painted.
The Figures on the Chariot
The iconography represents a carefully thought-out program. The three major panels of the car depict episodes from the life of Achilles, the Greek hero of the Trojan War. In the magnificent central scene, Achilles, on the right, receives from his mother, Thetis, on the left, a shield and helmet to replace the armor that Achilles had given his friend Patroklos, for combat against the Trojan Hektor. Patroklos was killed, allowing Hektor to take Achilles' armor. The subject was widely known thanks to the account in Homer's Iliad and many representations in Greek art. The panel on the left shows a combat between two warriors, usually identified as the Greek Achilles and the Trojan Memnon. In the panel on the right, the apotheosis of Achilles shows him ascending in a chariot drawn by winged horses.
The subsidiary reliefs partly covered by the wheels are interpreted as showing Achilles as a youth in the care of the centaur Chiron and Achilles as a lion felling his foes, in this case a stag and a bull.
The central axis of the chariot is reinforced by the head and forelegs of the boar at the join of the pole to the car. The deer below Achilles' shield appears slung over the boar's back. The eagle's head at the front of the pole repeats the two attacking eagles at the top of the central panel, and the lion heads on the yoke relate to the numerous savage felines on the car.
While the meaning of the human and animal figures allows for various interpretations, there is a thematic unity and a Homeric quality emphasizing the glory of the hero.
The Artistic Origin of the Chariot
The three panels of the car represent the main artistic achievement. Scholarly opinion agrees that the style of the decoration is strongly influenced by Greek art, particularly that of Ionia and adjacent islands such as Rhodes. The choice of subjects, moreover, reflects close knowledge of the epics recounting the Trojan War. In the extent of Greek influence, the chariot resembles works of virtually all media from Archaic Etruria. Contemporary carved ambers reflect a similar situation.
The typically Etruscan features of the object begin with its function, for chariots were not significant in Greek life of the sixth century B.C. except in athletic contests. Furthermore, iconographical motifs such as the winged horses in Achilles' apotheosis and the plethora of birds of prey reflect Etruscan predilections. The repoussé panels may have been produced in one of the important metal-working centers such as Vulci by a local craftsman well familiar with Greek art or possibly by an immigrant bronze-worker. The chariot could well have been made for an important individual living in southern Etruria or Latium. Its burial in Monteleone may have to do with the fact that this town controlled a major route through the Appenine Mountains. The vehicle could have been a gift to win favor with a powerful local authority or to reward his services.
Beyond discussion is the superlative skill of the artist. His control of the height of the relief, from very high to subtly shallow, is extraordinary. Equally remarkable are the richness and variety of the decoration lavished on all of the figures, especially those of the central panel. In its original state, with the gleaming bronze and painted ivory as well as all of the accessory paraphernalia, the chariot must have been dazzling.
The Reconstruction
After the parts of the chariot arrived in the Museum in 1903, they were assembled in a presentation that remained on view for almost a century. During the new reconstruction, which took three years' work, the chariot was entirely dismantled. A new support was made according to the same structural principles as the ancient one would have been. The reexamination of many pieces has allowed them to be placed in their correct positions. Moreover, the bronze sheathing of the pole, which had been considered only partially preserved, has been recognized as substantially complete.
The main element that has not been reconstructed is the yoke. Although the length is correct, the wooden bar simply connects the two bronze pieces.
ProvenanceFound at Colle del Capitano near Monteleone di Spoleto in 1902 (Scientific American 1903, p. 385; Robinson 1906, p. 83).
February 8, 1902, chariot discovered by Isidoro Vannozzi; purchased by Benedetto Petrangeli from Vannozzi; purchased by O. Vitalini from Petrangeli; acquired 1903, purchased from Vitalini, Paris.
Selected BibliographyStuttgarter Antiquitätenzeitung. 1903. No. 51: 404.
"An Etruscan Chariot of 500 B.C." October 18, 1903. New York Tribune: illustrated suppl., 8ff.
Scientific American. November 28, 1903: 311ff.
Furtwängler, A. 1906. "Bronzewagen von Monteleone: New York, Metropolitan Museum." In P. Arndt, Brunn-Bruckmann's Denkmäler griechischer und römischer Sculptur. Vol. 3. Munich: F. Bruckmann, pls. 586, 587.
Robinson, E. 1906. "The Bronze Chariot." MMA Bulletin 1: 82-83.
Richter, G. M. A. 1915. Greek, Etruscan and Roman Bronzes. New York: The Metropolitan Museum of Art, pp. 17-29, no. 40.
Bates, W. N. 1919. "Archaeological Discussions." American Journal of Archaeology 23: 184.
Sprenger, M., and G. Bartoloni. 1977. Die Etrusker: Kunst und Geschichte. Munich: Hirmer, p. 114, nos. 105-7, pls. 105-7.
Martelli, M. 1983."Il 'Marte' di Ravenna" in Xenia Antiqua 6: p. 29.
The Metropolitan Museum of Art. 1987. Greece and Rome. New York: The Metropolitan Museum of Art, pp. 46-47
Emiliozzi, A. 1991. "Sull'Origine del Carro di Monteleone di Spoleto. Una Nouva Impostazione del Problema," in Identità e Civilità dei Sabini. Atti del XVIII Convegno di Studi Etruschi ed Italici. Firenze: 333-337.
Emiliozzi, A. 1991. "The Monteleone Chariot: From Discovery to Restoration." In Antichità dall'Umbria a New York. Milan: Electa; Perugia: Editori Umbri Associati, pp. 113-20, 396-98, no. 1.
Emiliozzi, A. 1991. "Sull'origine del carro di Monteleone di Spoleto: Una nouva impostazione del problema." In Identità e civilità dei sabini: Atti del XVIII Convegno di Studi Etruschi ed Italici. Florence: L. S. Olschki, pp. 333-37.
Born, H and S. Hansen. 1994. Frühgriechische Bronzehelme. Mainz: von Zabern, p. 61 ill. 37.
Cristofani, M. 1996. "Paideia, Arete e Metis: a proposito delle pissidi della Pania" in Prospettiva 83-84: p.8., fig.15-16.
Emiliozzi, A., ed. 1997. Carri da guerra e principi etruschi. Rome: "L'Erma" di Bretschneider, pp. 179-90, 319, no. 87.
Haynes, S. 2000. Etruscan Civilization: A Cultural History. Los Angeles: J. Paul Getty Museum, pp. 167-69, figs. 149a, 149b.
Hedreen, GM. 2001. Capturing Troy: The Narrative Functions of Landscape in Archaic and Early Classical Greek Art. Ann Arbor: University of Michigan Press, p.133.
Picón, C. A., et al. 2007. Art of the Classical World in The Metropolitan Museum of Art. New York: The Metropolitan Museum of Art, pp. 470-71, no. 323, ill. pp. 278-81.
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OH, Lucy you were dead right, I had my Taverns mixed up, thank you!
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YAHOO! How much better can it get?
Better than that I die. Thank you so much Ginny for all the work you do for us, I love it.
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I'm so danged confused now, I don't know which day is which. Can we put a calendar here at the top to list the choices and the schedule?
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I'm so glad it suits, Eloise! I am very excited about it.
Andrea, there is a calendar in the heading? But the entries look like: Monday 9/13: : Travel Day: Departure
Do you mean you'd like an actual calendar with blocks? I can do that when the baby leaves.
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Great solutions, as usual, Ms. Ginny,
I love it. Those of us at the Leo will arise early and get ourselves riding on the bus or subway(which requires a bus tranfer, the crosstown #49 or #59, can't remember. Drops one right near the big steps, well a half block walk or so away.
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Thank you, Ann, I am so excited to see what they come up with. A super morning.
Hmmm, two cross town busses. If we do this it will mean an early start for the Met.
We are not using the main steps of the Metropolitan Museum of Art. We are using the entrance to the side on the front? No steps.
We sort of have this tradition of going on style, as you've seen many have mentioned the limos we've used in the past. Hmmm. I happen to know a super car company, hmmm. Or should we save that for Sarabeths? I'm not much of one to take a million changes to get somewhere but if you guys are game, I'm game too.
Limo to Sarabeth's?
Andrea, this is crude, does it help? Can I do something to it to make more clear which is afternoon or morning? Let me know.
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I think that to get to Sarabeth's by bus is easier than getting to the Metropolitan by bus. Also we have to be early to the Met from one single starting point - whereas Sarabeth's is in the afternoon and we might be coming to it from several different directions. That does sound as if a car is more practical going to the Met!
Just a thought!!! Whatever we do will be fine!
That little calendar looks nifty.
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Ginny, that chart is perfect and I couldn't have done that in a million years despite working on computers forever.
To clarify, from the Leo House to the Met, take the 8th Ave subway at 23rd St. to the 79th st. station, and change to the 79th St. bus going across the park. The bus is on 81st St., first street to the North. Get off at the first stop on the bus, Fifth Avenue, then walk two tiny blocks North and you are at the "Handicapped Entrance," which is for everybody. That is, if you wish to do that.
Hope to see you there.
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Ginny,
What happened to Pedl'n's visit to the new High Line Park on Saturday? Or is it going to be available on Friday? I forgot that you'al are going to Ellis Island on Sunday and let Mary make our reservations for a 3pm play on 42nd St. "Viagra Falls" is the title and its off Broadway but pricey also.
I know we thought about going to the Tenement Museum and its my fault. I forgot what I mentioned it. Mea culpa!! We just changed our plans too fast for my pea brain.
So Mary and I thinking we will go to the Tenement Museum on Friday afternoon depending on how late it is open.
Another thought would be the 9/11 Memorial Museum that's in downtown Mahattan also.
http://www.national911memorial.org/site/PageServer?pagename=new_Museum_Page
If you want to see a well presented memorial to the 9/11 volunteers, don't miss St Paul's Episcopal Church which sits right across the 9/11 site. Fantastic meaningful exhibit!
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Thank you Joan, and Zulema, I'm glad you like the chart. It was easy to do in Word, Zulema, if you have that? Gosh I sure hope you're coming, can't wait to see you. Once they get back to us, we can then say where we'll all meet since some are coming in from the city on their own.
I am thinking the Met is, as you both seem to say, harder than Sarabeth's to get to and it's early too. We may have to have a surprise that day too. :)
I appreciate those directions and have copied them both out, because we may GET there like Kings, but we'll have to get ourselves back, unless we TAXI! But I seem to remember a bus stop right down on the right, as mentioned here, that we can catch to go back.
Ann:
What happened to Pedl'n's visit to the new High Line Park on Saturday? Or is it going to be available on Friday? I forgot that you'al are going to Ellis Island on Sunday and let Mary make our reservations for a 3pm play on 42nd St. "Viagra Falls" is the title and its off Broadway but pricey also.
No, I think you said earlier that you and Mary had spent a lot of time at Ellis Island, so actually wasn't expecting you then. Sounds like great fun, the play.
I am sorry if I left off Pedln's HighLine Park, what day and time is it, Pedln? I think the Met and Mr. Norris originally took its place, so we need to get it on the schedule or as an alternate, it was hard to tell with the Day 2 stuff, but having written Pedln and Lucy, I discovered it wasn't Lucy's day. The days are up there now, when is the Highline scheduled, Pedln and I'll put it in. Will you take a head count first?
So Mary and I thinking we will go to the Tenement Museum on Friday afternoon depending on how late it is open. Another thought would be the 9/11 Memorial Museum that's in downtown Mahattan also.
OK how do you want me to indicate this on the chart? The Tenement Museum is currently listed in the heading under:
Additional Possibilities:
The short terms, unscheduled -- High Line Park, with maybe a visit to Chelsea Market nearby, Union Square, The Strand, shopping, Tenement museum, Botanical Gardens, Etaly if open, a Broadway Show, Algonquin or Chelsea Hotels, concerts, opera, bus tour of NYC, etc.
Do you want it to say:
Possible Friday afternoon: Tenement Museum? 9/11 Memorial Museum?
Or?
What else is left off? Seems to be a nice assortment of free time to shop and ride tour busses and scheduled things.
Let me know!
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I think I definitely plan to take either taxi or car service to the Metropolitan on Friday morning. The Leo had a car service they recommend, perhaps they still do. I looked online, and they weren't real forthcoming with rates, except for airports, but one did show for 1 - 4 passengers $20. I'm all for taking buses when not concerned about time.
Ann, nothing is "your fault." We just have so many thoughts and ideas about what we want to do, that it's impossible to get them all in. I have 4 priorities -- dinner Wed. night, the Met, Sarabeths, and Ellis Island. Am not sure about the Circle Cruise, delightful as I know it to be. I've never been to Chelsea Market and will probably tie that into a visit to the High Line Park on Saturday am.
And I'd like to go to the Strand, and there's also a neat Mystery Book Store in Grenwich Village. And I think it would be fun also to visit one of those Roof top places and sip something while the lights come on in the city.
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I went to the Tenement Museum lecture this evening,"Hot Time in the Old Town," with Edward Kohn, a history professor in Ankara, Turkey. It was great--went with old friend Bob and he enjoyed it too and bought the book which I hope to borrow later on. The museum is terrific; although I saw only the shop I was impressed. They have many books and many gifts and novelties, for which they are considered the best gift shop in NYC. I am into calendars and bookmarks, and I found one of women reading as well as bookmark, reading calendars. I was blown away! I plan to go back for other lectures, but unfortunately there are none while you are visiting.
I think many of the displays fron St. Paul's have been moved to the new 9/11 museum. Some things I recognized as having been in St. Paul's, and there are new video and photographic displays. If I get a chance I will check St. Paul's and see what's still there.
I am interested in going to the Highline Park, which I will do one of these days when it is cooler and tell you what I find.
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---Followed by Lunch in the Atrium Cafe under the glass.
---Followed by a short seque open to all to see the Cubiculum of Villa of P. Fannius Synistor, and the Monteleone Chariot! See email.
---After Lunch: Free Afternoon at Leisure
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Sunday 9/12 Those wanting to go to Ellis Island will convene in the Lobby of the Leo. As an alternative, Ann plans a trip to the Tenement Museum. OR just do your own thing! Contact: ginny (gvinesc@gmail.com) for details.
Other Enticements:
Alf is planning a Surprise! Contact: Andrea (WFlannery@cfl.rr.com) for details.
Pedl'n plans a day at the newest NYC park, the High Line. http://www.thehighline.org/ (http://www.thehighline.org/) Contact: Pedln (ann.bartlett@att.net) for details.
Eloise will be our Coordinator daily at Breakfast at the Leo House. She will be at the cafeteria for an hour to take messages and keep everybody informed on what is happening on that day.
Additional Possibilities:
The short terms, unscheduled -- High Line Park, with maybe a visit to Chelsea Market nearby, Union Square, The Strand, Chelsea Market, shopping, Tenement House and Museum, Botanical Gardens, Etaly if open, a Broadway Show, Algonquin or Chelsea Hotels, concerts, opera, bus tour of NYC, etc.
Monday 9/13: : Travel Day: Departure
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It sounds like the Tenement House is a place we need to add to our trip, thank you Lucy!
I am reminded that not all immigrants were 20 year olds and I want to test myself on their stairs and see how people really had to live.
Best shop in NYC? Hmmm. Tell us what they said about Hot Time in the City, since we could not make the talk and won't make one while there? It will add to our knowledge of the history of NYC and the Immigrant Experience.
As well we really should visit a bookstore, either the Strand or the Mystery Book Store!! Happily we have several days where options may be explored, the first three days seem to have either the morning or the evening totally free. our TRICK is to be SURE that the OPTIONS are open should somebody decide they would like to go, say to the Tenement House, that if it's open to others, we make that known. For instance, if Pedln wants to go to the Mystery Book Store, on Saturday, how can we all know she's going? How shall we do this?
At Breakfast? We can't put a sign in the Lobby or can we? How can we organize this? Most of us have cell phones, we could leave messages or call on them.
I really would like for nobody to be saying well, here it's Saturday afternoon and I don't have anybody to go with/ eat with/ be with...where are YOU going now? that's my biggest fear (the woman who personally goes everywhere by herself worries over this as we're a GROUP). Don't want anybody standing around looking around as everybody takes off exticedly in different directions.
How shall we address this?
I do think we have enough "official" venues planned. I am sure also Gay will want to take a bus tour, coming from the UK and I am not sure if this is her first trip to the US or NYC or not. We'll find out!
Also I'm asking how to put on the Chart these things? For instance Pedln: I've never been to Chelsea Market and will probably tie that into a visit to the High Line Park on Saturday am.
And I'd like to go to the Strand, and there's also a neat Mystery Book Store in Grenwich Village. And I think it would be fun also to visit one of those Roof top places and sip something while the lights come on in the city.
See that's the thing? Shall we keep all these options in the POSSIBILITIES BOX and kind of go with the flow, the weather, and how we feel that morning? OR?
I'm willing to do whatever you'd all like vis a vis the calendar above, but having just tromped thru Europe I know, depending on different factors, how you have to adjust as you go: it's like eating, sometimes your eyes are bigger than your stomach. If you don't adjust to your own stamina, you kill yourself.
Would it be better to have the options there and then decide the day before or even that morning? Seems to have worked in the past, as in "I think I'll go to XXX, anybody want to come?" Those tiny vignettes are what you remember, actually.
Pedln, I don't know who the Leo now recommends but I like Carmel. 1-866-666-6666 (don't be put off by the 6's). We got off the Russians the Leo recommended before because of their gouging with tips and tolls, they actually took us for a ride the last time we used them) and actually they've been bought out into another company. Those prices are WAY low for a car in NYC. Tell you what.... I like the support here for going in style. I'll get us a car and we'll do it right.
I mean what's a tradition if it's not upheld, right? The Met is difficult to get to, apparently Sarabeth's is not. Let's get ourselves to Sarabeths and we'll get those at the Leo to the Met. Then they can walk right down to the right when we exit and catch one of many buses. Lucy, will you guide us here as to which one to get where we need to go at the time? Also any of us can catch easily a cab, they stop in front of the museum, not a problem.
Those going to Times Square at night? If you don't want to take the express subway, you can walk to the Mariott Marquis and get a cab from their underground garage. Any time of the day or night. The cabs typically (fair warning) do NOT want to go to 23rd street, however.
New Yorkers, I need to know how many of you will meet us at the Met, looks like Zulema will be there, and how many will want to ride along and share the experience from the Leo. I know several of you like Lucy live WAY WAY out, so does Zulema apparently, so just let me know how many seats I need in the car, it's the number of passengers (of course) which determines the size of the car which comes. Carmel, also, unlike a lot of other limos, does have the Leo House on their list of where they deliver from the airports.
The only thing with Carmel is you HAVE to turn your cell phone on about a half hour before pick up as they will call anxiously from the driver as he circles the airport.
So that's done!! Our Friday Morning at the Met awaits the Met now, I like pleasant surprises. :) This certainly seems to be turning out splendidly so far, thanks to you all. I do think now I must see the Tenement House, how far is it from the Leo, Lucy? Is it walkable?
OH did you see 97 Orchard Street there?
(Why do I have the feeling that I am not going to be able to LIFT my suitcases upon departure due to books? ) hahahaa
Remember also you can bring books for Bruce and Maryann to autograph if you like. ARE any of you bringing their books? I will bring Bruce's book if somebody will bring Maryann's, (if you are, will you say so, do you have the hardback so it can stand UP on its own or the paperback? I have the hardback and I can bring it if necessary), and we can prop them both up on our table at Sarabeth's? Nice to have such a fabulous place, we don't need to worry about decorations, tho I still have my centerpiece that Ann made for....was it.....1998?
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Soooo, many choices!
I do believe that Pedl'n's High Line Park was originally planned for Saturday morning.
and then we were going to the market, Chelsea or the other one. Speaking of the High Line, we are reading for our f2f group, Pete Hamil's "North River" in which he mentions the building and running of the new High Line. The book is set in the 1930's. Great story!
So, we have a free Friday afternoon, a free Saturday morning, Thursday after the Cruise (may I suggest that those of us who want to see the park could go after lunch on Thursday,if we are still standing), Sunday for who isn't going to Ellis Island or a play. Well, we can hold a meeting in Ginny's big room for one and see where everyone wants to go. Or we can take over the cafeteria on Wednesday morning?? Tee hee!
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I'm not wanting to tell anyone what kind of vehicle to take from Airport to Leo, but for the trip into town, on the advice from Judy and Liz, that taxis were just as easy as car service and did not cost any more. One trip from LGA to Brooklyn's Prospect Heights was $26 and another was $35. At LaGuardia you just get in a taxi line, and everyone gets their taxi in turn. Easy.
My first trip -- when the girls lived in lower Manhattan, I took the Super Shuttle for about $15. It even dropped some folks off at Leo House. Not the speediest way, and I wouldn't recommend it for going from Leo to the Airport
I must see the Tenement House, how far is it from the Leo, Lucy? Is it walkable?
Not walkable, unless you're like J & L who walked from that area to Central Park. The Tenement House is below 1st Street, so you're talking over 25 blocks at least.
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See that's the thing? Shall we keep all these options in the POSSIBILITIES BOX and kind of go with the flow, the weather, and how we feel that morning? OR?
If you don't adjust to your own stamina, you kill yourself.
I don’t think you have to chart what is going to be loose Ginny. You have the main unmovable events on a chart and for what to do before or after those events it would be an individual choice. If two or three people want to go somewhere together during the loose time they would want to know where and when to meet for that. I suggest that we have a mini meeting after breakfast at the Leo to organize our time each day. I volunteer to be at the cafeteria for an hour to take messages and keep everybody informed on what is happening on that day. As you say we have to be flexible and, say, if it’s pouring rain and we want to change our plans and go somewhere else we can do that then.
Those going to Ellis Island would leave the Leo together in the morning. The afternoon would be free and those not going to Ellis Island would know where to meet their friend because we have already talked about it at the mini meeting. The same thing goes for the Met.
I would LOVE a Roof Top place to see the lights come on in the city and RELAX there.
I am not about to rush around getting exhausted and I don't have a cell phone.
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Well, Pedl'n,
Mary and I have always taken a cab and split the cost so usually cheaper than the shuttle. Around $12 or $13 apiece.
You can get to the Tenament Museum on the Subway or the bus. Sounds to me like Pedl'n and JoanR might be the experts on the buses. And others who have provided us with info on transportation.
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This looks like some useful information from the official High Line site:
July 28, 2010
Enjoy a Free, Guided Walking Tour with a High Line Docent
High Line DocentsHigh Line Docents are volunteers trained by Friends of the High Line staff on all aspects of the High Line’s history, design, and distinct horticultural elements. Every Saturday at 11:00 AM, a High Line Docent leads a free, guided walk through Section 1 for up to 20 people. Meet at the bottom of the Gansevoort Street stair. Space is available on a first-come, first-served basis.
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Also: NYC bus and subway maps are available in Penn Station - when I come through there on Thursday, I'll see how many they'll let me have. I find that bus map very useful myself.
Pedln - Are those stairs at the HighLine OK for us?
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Pedln - Are those stairs at the HighLine OK for us?
JoanR, I used the elevator at 16th St. but as I recall, the stairs looked okay. And, if you can get bus and subway maps that would be great.
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]The High Line has an elevator at 14th and 16th and Gansevoort. If you go to Internet and download map of Ligh Line you will see that the Chelsea Market is nearby on West 16th. I think I will be going there soon and will report.
No, I do not need a ride to the Met--will come on A train and bus.
Better look at the Tenement Museum site and read carefully what is available when, etc. And when you cen get into the store which includes a very good book stores, every conceivable title relating to NYC, novels, poetry, history, etc.
The program I went to was about the book by Edward Kohn, "Hot Time in the Old Town," the heat wave of 1896, which lasted 10 days and killed many people who lived in the tenements. Theodore Roosevelt was police commissioner and had free ice delivered to the tenement people, which was a very progressive approach by a city which otherwise did nothing. The author made the point that heat waves are not classified as disasters but even today they kill many people as in Chicago in 1995. In the heat wave of 1896, the people who died were not old or infirm but often were workers in hot manufacturing environments, policemen who were required to wear wool uniforms, and lots of babies. It's a grim account of brutal living conditions and an uncaring government.
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OH this is SOOO exciting and on Friday the 13th, too!!
ELOISE! YAY! Thank you!
I don’t think you have to chart what is going to be loose Ginny. You have the main unmovable events on a chart and for what to do before or after those events it would be an individual choice. If two or three people want to go somewhere together during the loose time they would want to know where and when to meet for that. I suggest that we have a mini meeting after breakfast at the Leo to organize our time each day. I volunteer to be at the cafeteria for an hour to take messages and keep everybody informed on what is happening on that day. As you say we have to be flexible and, say, if it’s pouring rain and we want to change our plans and go somewhere else we can do that then.
I agree, let's do that and YES YES YES!! Thank you! Eloise is our ...what shall we call her? Activities Liason? Coordinator? Yes, this will be super, many many thanks. Eloise, do you have a photo of yourself so that people will recognize you at breakfast and otherwise?
I would LOVE a Roof Top place to see the lights come on in the city and RELAX there.
New Yorkers, what does this suggest? Top of the Rock? Maybe Eloise will eat with me at the revolving restaurant at the Marquis. There are two levels of revolving restaurants, one is expensive with gourmet food and reservations, the bottom one is a buffet, no reservations, just walk in and cheaper.
I love it but I'm a sucker for eating watching lights go by.
Lucy thank you so much, you now have a picture of the immigration issue which I don't. I must go to the Tenement House, they've been sending me emails since 2008 and I've still not gotten there.
Thank all of you for the transportation information, there's really nothing like having people on the spot or native to the area to make you feel somewhat secure: once again, what is the bus fare which you have to have to hand? What change?
(I love the British, even with my white hair they always shyly ask as if it might be a questionable issue: "concessions?" (Senior Discount?) yeah man. hahaaha
To the Leo House from Newark the cheapest taxi I ever got was $45, and then there was a tip. The Shuttle takes eons while they leave off everybody else at different hotels, but you do get to see the hotels. The last time I took it the driver was a non English speaking mad man. He tore across the bridge muttering to himself and I thought we were going a little fast, so checked the speedometer, it was 80 mph. When we got there he insisted on being paid again, despite my receipt. No thanks.
You can also get the train to Penn Station M-F and then ....take a cab or walk, it's not all that far but I'm not doing it. One of us is a wuss. I'll save my energy so I can see what I came to see, but that may be just me.
OK we're all set and good to go with our activities and the HighLine looks like the happening place to be along with the Tenement Museum, so many choices, so little time.
And there's NEWS, Friends, big news, and I do hope you will love it, see next post!
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OK the Met has come up with a fabulous sounding tour customized just for us, and they are really happy about it and I HOPE you will be, too!~ Yesterday was Friday the 13th and some bad things happened, but what I see here and the news from the Met totally overcame that.
Look as hard as you can, you won't see this tour or even this subject offered by the Met, they've done this one just for us!!!!
We're a book group, right? We're also Latin students, right? So what should be right down our alley?
Our tour is classified as a "special topic," don't you love that?
It's on books: the history of book binding, books, illuminated manuscripts (Latin) and related works.
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I can't believe they have done this: at every gathering we've ever had, going back to 1998, I have bleated in vain about seeing how books are bound or having the technique explained. Every museum I ever go in I run to the area where they explain this or show it. In Munich I stood for an hour in a German crowd hearing a lecture demonstration in German of which I understood not a word, but we made paper and then we bound it. I really think I could make paper now. The leader of the demonstration would address questions to the crowd (in German). He always seemed a tad confused when I never answered him. hahahaha
Then of course I got lost in their replica of a mine shaft and was nearly killed, but that's another story. hahaha
The history of book binding, starting with Illuminated manuscripts, did you know they had factories to assemble them? I would personally kill to see how books are bound and assembled. I never open any book (this may be just me) without looking at how it's been assembled, glued and sewn. I have actually a small and humble collection of illuminated ms pages, (do you know what MAKES an "Illuminated Manuscript" illuminated?) and they were worried that their collections would not support this topic but we have a brave guide in Rebecca Arkenberg who will take this on, just for us.
YAHOO! We're about books and here's our customized topic, I am very excited.
We will eat at the Atrium Cafe in sight of the Tiffany and La Farge stained glass windows under the glass, rain or shine, and it should be a day to remember.
I am sure everybody will then run home and assemble their own book to show their prowess, right? Maybe we should make one for the entire trip as a souvenir, maybe online. You'll never look at a book the same way again, THINK of how you can bore your family and friends over dinner!
I am SOOO excited! I hope you are, too.
The Listening Devices people want us there at 9:30 sharp when the doors open so they can explain how they work, they really are rolling out the carpet here, I'm excited again.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! SeniorLearn ROCKS!
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New Yorkers, what does this suggest? Top of the Rock? Maybe Eloise will eat with me at the revolving restaurant at the Marquis.
Yes again Ginny, Upstairs or Downstairs I don't care, just to be with you, and others. I love heights, the higher the better. I will get my grandson Anthony to take my picture only for this time because I don't have a recent one.
Stunning illumination. The first time I heard about this was during Les Pérégrines discussion some years back. The Met will be a memorable museum visit for me. I have seen several museums in Europe but I feel that the New York one will be the best ever.
Thank you for all that you do Ginny.
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Ah, Ginny, you must be saying all the right things to the Met personnel! Can't wait to take the tour. Lets talk about the transportation. Are you arranging that for the met tour??
I am glad we are starting at the Met instead of the Cloisters. I wasn't too thrilled about eating from machines.
To those of you who received a schedule from me, ignore it. Your names were in a group list and when i included Mary, everyone on this trip got to see our schedule,too. Mea culpa!
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The Met program sounds great. It's a subject I am very interested in and have forgotten about having been out of library school for many years now.
There was an article in the TIMES about rooftop bars, but I have no idea where they are or how to get into them. They are quite exclusive, hangouts for the elite I am thinking. Lucy
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Thankyou Eloise, I am so glad you're pleased and thank you for the photo. I will put it in the calendar blocks so people can know to look for you!~ It's already in the heading in red.
Let's talk about transportion. Are you arranging that for the met tour??
Yes I am, and I'm glad you like the Tour!! So far Lucy and Zulema have said they will meet us AT the Met. I need to know exactly how many people are coming and IF they need a ride from the Leo. Please email me if you are NOT in need of a ride. The limos go by the number of people traveling, so this is ONE time we need a definite head count. Why should we pay for a bigger car than we need?
I am glad we are starting at the Met instead of the Cloisters. I wasn't too thrilled about eating from machines.
I think in both cases the self serve just indicates the food is there for you to select from, I don't think there are machines. This is not the fancy restaurant at the Met, I did ask about it, wanting a nice time but the group rate of $65 per person kind of threw me off? hahahaa
However I saw the Cafe in December, it's very nice under the glass, weather resistant, with views of the stained glass. It's small but there are lots of tables. I think it does not open till 11:30 so we should be right in time.
WHEE!! Everybody should now have some background on Achilles which will be of fantastic interest IF you are planning to go see the Montelone chariot after lunch. If you are not, you don't need it, tho it's really something. If you are going (I figure 10 minutes, tops, depending on how fast you can walk to both), and somebody with you is also going, please forward it to them, I may not have their email.
Yahoo!
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THERE is Lucy, we were posting together, I am so glad the subject is of interest, YOU of course were a librarian!! Heck you could probably lead it yourself!
Eloise, it's one of the greatest museums in the world, something for everybody, and they have general tours of the highlights, too. I don't know which area interests me the most, the Greek and Roman galleries, I mean the hoplite helmets alone I used an entire chip on, the armor!! The Egyptian collections and the entire Temple of Dendur (thanks in part to our old friend, now gone, Tom Hoving), the art (they do have a Vermeer), I love the Assyrian stuff, the stained glass, it's endless and open till 9:00 pm Fridays. They PROBABLY but I don't know, have music that night.
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Ginny, thank you, thank you, thank you for setting up this fantastic trip and tour at the Met. You surely have the magic touch with the folks there, or should I say, the magic voice. Illuminated manuscripts. I can't wait. I need to print all of this out now so I can read all the notes carefully.
Lucy, I saw that article in the NY Times. It made me think that that would be a neat thing to do. They're exclusive?
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Pedln, I am so glad it suits!
An excellent question has arisen on how do they know it was chess?
There's a lot of discussion, actually, on what it really was. Most sources call it "chess" for lack of a better word. The vase clearly shows Achilles hollering out 4 and Ajax hollering out 3.
Here is all you probably ever wanted to know about this vase and the game:
What game are they playing? One theory. 51 short illustrated and fascinating pages on the vase and the game, all interesting: see one below: (http://www.dynamic-psychology.eu/Play,%20Fate%20and%20Emotions%20in%20Achilles%20and%20Ajax/PLAY,%20FATE%20AND%20EMOTIONS%20IN%20ACHILLES%20AND%20AJAX%20FOR%20A%20PSYCHO-ANTHROPOLOGY%20OF%20IMAGE.pdf)
But that is not the last, or the only word in scholarship over the game. It's interesting, tho. :)
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Ginny,
You do have Mary and I on that visit to the Met, right???
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Ginny - Thanks for arranging such a fabulous event!! Meg says she will take Friday off from the library so that she can come in Thursday night and go with us to the Met.
So that's one more head for you to count!!!!
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Today I went to the High Line Park and the Chelsea Market, both exceptional, very pleasant and rewarding. The Market is right by the High Line on West 16th and 10th Avenue. I took A train from home to 14th and walked the few blocks. The elevator to the High Line was not working, but I made it up the steep staircase and was delighted with the park. It has wild, natural vegetation and flowers, many benches and places to rest, a pavilion with stained glass windows, and some art and refreshments for sale. One can see the river and some excellent views of the city. It was raining lightly but not enough to deter me.
The Market is terrific with many interesting places to snack and dine and a good bookstore as well as other stores and lots of seating and bathrooms. I think these locations are a "must see," easily accessible and worth the time.
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Going back to the first page, I have made a list of the things people said they would like to do during the loose hours between Main Events, that is the Cruise, the Met and Sarabeth’s. If you don’t mind emailing me or posting who is interested in doing what it would make it easier than doing it on the first morning. Mind you this doesn’t have to be a firm commitment, it’s just to have an idea of who wants to go where and with whom. I don’t think I can visit more than two places in one day. We have to make time for meals and for resting too. We know the time we have to be at the Met and Sarabeth’s, but not the Cruise. I think Lucy who could tell us at what time it is and how long it lasts.
The Strand
Book Store in Grewich Village
Top of the Rock, Marquis Hotel
Tenement House and Book store
St. Patrick’s Cathedral
Hudson Cruise
High Line Park
Chelsea Market
Cloisters
Foreign films
Guggenheim
Bus tour of Manhattan
Ground Zero
Broadway Shows
Union Square
Lunch at Eataly
Window shopping
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Eloise,
What a good idea!
And you are so right about leaving time for traveling to each of the venues. And time for a little sit down now and then. Also, we must remember that NYC is on EST or EDT so when we meet anywhere starting around 6pm, its going to be dark when we leave. I think, it will be starting to get dark by 6pm.
Don't forget that some of us(8 or 9) are meeting at the Fraunces Tavern Museum on Wednesday at 3pm and then we are off to dinner at the Bridge Cafe at 6pm. In 2008, we went for dinner at the Fraunces and caught cabs back to the Leo, sharing the cost.
I would choose the earliest time for Thursday's Circle Line Cruise of 10:30am but am willing to go whenever. Noon wouldn't be bad either. We could take our time eating the wonderful breakfast at the Leo. Why don't we vote on a time here? Lucy did put up times for us to choose from but I don't know if we have chosen one yet. I believe that two of the times were 10:30am and 12noon, but we need the other times and Lucy's opinion of the best one.
Mary and I do want to see the High Line Park and the Chelsea Market. Maybe after our Cruise on Thursday or our museum visit and lunch on Friday?? Or there is always Saturday or Sunday morning?? What say you all? Ped'ln, What is a good time to go?? We can be loose here, just in case it rains.
So far, we have a a couple of members who are interested in seeing a play on Sunday and Mary and I will be going to the matinee for "Viagra Falls", an off-Broadway comedy at 3pm. For those who are interested in going up to the Broadway area, take a peek at Broadway.com. For those who want to go with Mary and I to see the comedy, don't forget to order your tickets. This can be done online at Broadway.com.
I believe that there is also a group going out to Ellis Island on Sunday.
Lucy,
How good of you to visit two of our venues and report on them to us. So you approve of the High Line Park and the Chelsea Market. Are the steps going to be a problem for anyone here?? Should any of us opt out of the park trip? Maybe any who do could meet us at the Chelsea Market at a set time?
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Fabulous fabulous fabulous, thank you, ALL!!
I just love what our Gatherings have become, with everybody pitching in together.
Thank you Lucy for setting out in the rain yet to check those venues out for us!
Thank you, Joan, I am excited that Meg can come! Ann, yes I have you and Mary.
Thank you, Eloise, my goodness, how organized you are, I feel completely covered now in all eventualities.
How much is the change for the bus, anybody? I keep forgetting. Eloise I will bring you and Gay from England lots of American change, you'll jingle when you walk.
The Top of the Rock, at 30 Rockefeller Plaza, looks to be something if you like views and heights nobody should miss: LOOK at this!
http://www.trustedtours.com/store/Top-of-the-Rock-Observation-Deck-at-Rockefeller-Center-C386.aspx
Just pictures here: http://www.topoftherocknyc.com/
I've never been. The description sort of uncomfortably reminds me of the World Trade Center where I took my children so many times.
The Mariott Marquis at Times Square, is a hotel with a Broadway Theater and two revolving restaurants which also show views, as they turn, mostly of other buildings, but some views of the harbor, and you can look straight down and see the ants (taxis) on the street, it's a nice way to eat pre theater.
There is also a fabulous Broadway Store with anything you can think of pertaining to Broadway souvenirs sort of under the underground Marquis drop off and parking area.
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I vote, on the Cruise, to begin the day with it as early as we can, so as to have a lovely beginning to our day and to have the afternoon free. Lucy says it does not leave from the South Street Seaport so if you were planning to get your half price tix then, you won't, it leaves from a different pier. I don't think a taxi shared to it would be prohibitive, do you, Lucy? They also take photos as you enter the boat unless they have changed that, and it would make a nice souvenir. I still have the one from 1998.
So I vote to get up and go!!
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Here are some of the places I would like to go with someone. Pedln mentioned Union Square and the Strand. Double Decker Bus Tour, I don't know who wants to do that. Top of the Rock at the Marquis with Ginny. St. Patrick's Cathedral with Alf (Andrea).
When we arrive at the hotel, we won't have each other's room number and if we want to speak with someone about what to do, the morning mini-meeting is the only place where we will be able to plan our free time, unless we have emailed each other previously. Canadians cell phones don't work in the US, so I won't one unfortunately, because I could certainly use one.
Lucy the High Line Park certainly sounds interesting. I will see later if I will put my name down. Did you receive emails regarding the Hudson Cruise?
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Eloise see my post on the Top of the Rock and the Marquis, two different venues both of which we can see if you like.
And more news, the Met is trying to arrange for the Audio people to come to us at the 81st street entrance, my goodness, hang on and they'll let us know.
Also, those going to see the Cubiculum and the Chariot? You'll go in style with your own official Lecturer with Badge yet. Can you believe that? C'est moi! I'm trying to think what else we can swan into officially with our official badge. (just kidding), JUST KIDDING! Just color me chuffed this morning. Long Live the Met!!
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Two things to rectify. I will add the 9/11 museum to the list, I thought I had it though. And I do have the Tenement House, I guess I could put Tenement Museum instead.
We can vote for the time we take the Cruise. I think Lucy said it is an all day event. Because of land transportation to and from.
Ginny said: I vote, on the Cruise, to begin the day with it as early as we can, so as to have a lovely beginning to our day and to have the afternoon free. Me too.
Ann, I guess that for Broadway shows you really have to get seats together when you buy tickets. So it’s hard to join someone who already has tickets.
Ann, I didn’t include Fraunces, sorry, because I will arrive in NY only in the evening of the 8th, but certainly more people can join can’t they? Yes EST in New York City, Gay will probably be on Jet Lag, poor girl. I hope she wants to see the Glitter and Excitement of NYC with me. Where is she?
Ginny, I got some US dollars but banks here don’t have US coins, I have to get those in New York. I guess at Penn Station when I get the bus schedule.
I will post changes to the list as I get information about who wants to go where.
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Where do we get on the Circle Cruise? I took it three years ago, but that was on my first visit to NY and the girls took care of all the particulars. All I remember is that Judy and I got a cab somewhere, and daughter Joan (from California w/baby Ruby) walked, pushing the stroller because putting in a car seat would be a pain. (And she got there first) I don't remember any picture -- they probably took one look at us and ran the other way. I was thinking we got off somewhere in lower Manhattan. Do you have to get your ticket ahead of time, or is there a ticketbooth right near the boat?
If that's the case, it woud be neat to eat lunch downtown someplace and then explore down there or areas nearby -- St. Paul's chapel, 9/11 museum, Tenement place, what's that park in Chinatown where people bring their birdcages and hang them in trees? Mind you, I don't know. These places could be miles away.
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Pedln, great questions, I am sure Lucy will have the answers.
HERE is the gorgeous Eloise, look for her at Breakfast, she's our Activities Coordinator!
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You need Badge or something, Eloise, to show your official status!!
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The cruise leaves at the following times: 10, 12:30, 3:30 from Pier 83, at 42nd near the Hudson. It lasts 3 hours, cost for seniors $30. The ticket booth is right by the departure point. I think it best NOT to buy tickets in advance. What if the weather is bad? If it's too cloudy you cannot see much. I am not aware of them taking your photo as you get on the ship. They do that on cruise lines, but this is just a public, come as you are event.
There is a bus from 42nd and 8th that takes you to the pier although every bus down 42nd does not go to the pier. So you have to ask or look at the signs on the bus. Better I think to take a cab. I will join you for an early breakfast at Leo House that day. We should get to the pier a half hour or so in advance. It will be an early morning.
City buses for seniors cost $1.25 in cash with the remote possibility of them asking for senior I.D.
I went to Union Square Saturday. It operates Mon., Wed., Fri., and Sat. It's a big farmers type market with annoying bikers and skateboarders cruising about. It is near the Strand, but for itself it's not really a must-see.
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The places you mention to go to after the cruise are not walking distance. Things to do right near Times Square are King Tut exhibit, Wax Museum, many places to eat, stores for souvenirs and Broadway stuff, and specialty stores, like M&M's, Hershey's, and the latest, a Pop Tart store. Also you can take a bus tour from there, hop-on-hop-off, and there may be briefer tours.
It might be a good time to go to Chelsea Market, not far away, 14th and 10th Ave, where there are more upscale lunch places and the High Line to visit. Or lower Manhattan, 9/11 Museum, and I will check on St. Pauls (I'll be down there for union meeting the day before you arrive). There are many places to eat, and it's near China Town, which I will check on how to reach. Tenement Museum is on the East Side, F train, have to check on access and times there.
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A dollar and a quarter! Thank you Lucy, I've got plenty of quarters right here and will bring spares.
No photos? I've still got the one saying Circle Line from 1998, phooey, I was hoping for a group photo.
Don't ask me why I'm doing this but I just saw something on it on TV and i think it's fascinating. If you have a strange shaped plot of land where two streets come together, and you want to build a building, what do you do?
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Bytes of the Big Apple #1:
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Flatiron Building
Also known as: Fuller Building
Built: 1902
Designed by: Daniel H. Burnham
Type: Skyscraper
Maximum Height: 285 feet / 87 meters
Location: Fifth avenue between 22nd and 23rd streets, New York, United States
Not well known among those not from the area, or not into historic architecture, the Flatiron Building is a favorite of New Yorkers and admirers around the world. Perhaps because it symbolizes so much of how New Yorkers see themselves -- Defiant, bold, sophisticated, and interesting. With just enough embedded grime and soot to highlight its details.
The Flatiron's most interesting feature is its shape -- a slender hull plowing up the streets of commerce as the bow off a great ocean liner plows through the waves of its domain. The apex of the building is just six feet wide, and expands into a limestone wedge adorned with Gothic and Renaissance details of Greek faces and terra cotta flowers.
The building has two claims to fame -- one architectural, the other cultural. Some consider the Flatiron Building to be New York City's first skyscraper. It certainly was one of the first buildings in the city to employ a steel frame to hold up its 285-foot tall facade, but not the first. Some felt its shape (like a flatiron) was less artistic and more dangerous. They thought it would fall over, and during construction the Flatiron Building was nicknamed "Burnham's Folly."
The building's cultural legacy is a little more interesting and has passed into the local social consciousness as a fable. It is said that the building created unusual eddies in the wind which would cause women's skirts to fly around as they walked on 23rd street. This attracted throngs of young men who gathered to view the barelegged spectacle. Police would try to disperse these knots of heavy-breathers by calling to them, "23 Skidoo." This phrase has passed out of common usage, but its descendant, the word "scram" remains in a back corner of the American lexicon.
From: http://www.glasssteelandstone.com/BuildingDetail/438.php
I wonder if the driver going to the Met might swing by this on his way.
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Eloise- I am interested in the Grenwich Village bookstore, we aren't too far from there & I've already checked out the Strand.
I would love to go to the Top of the Rock, St. Pat's Cathedral, the Hudson Cruise, High Line Park and the Chelsea market.
It does not matter to me what time these are planned, I will be there.
I love the Guggenheim and highly recommend bus tours throughout Manhattan. I always do that when I go to the city and have never been disappointed.
I am OUT for the ground Zero trip.
My problem is that I want to do it all. I will be attending a off Broadway show with Ann and Mary, (I think.)
Ann what day is that, Sunday?? It's a good think that I didn't order them, I thought is was for Saturday. I love that Eloise is coordinating all of us. It moves so smoothly with the expert hand of our Eloise.
Ginny, is everyone going to MMA via the limo?
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Do you remember The Devil in White City, about the serial murderer and the Chicago Exposition of 1893? Daniel Burnham was the chief architect and the man behind the building of the Exposition.
Eloise, what a great picture!
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Andrea, that's a good question, I assumed, and we know what that makes of me, that everybody at the Leo would want transportation, are you coming in the limo with us or are you going another way? We need to be there at 9:30 when the doors open.
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Count me in, do you need a check?
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For the bus it is 5 quarters; you can use only coins on city buses, and they do not give you change. BE PREPARED! Dimes and nickels are okay too.
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I think I did vote but just in case, the earliest time of 10am is fine with me. We do need directions for getting there, Lucy. I have captured your post up above but still don't quite understand it. Are you saying that we could grab a number of cabs and all go from the Leo?? I know that the Leo can be notified that we need so many cabs while we can all split up and share the cost of the ride. About how long does do you anticipate the trip wlll take? Would you think if we boarded our cabs by 9am that we would be there in plenty of time for buying our tickets and boarding the boat??
I need a huge map of NYC with all of our destinations on it. Well, actually, using Google Maps and putting each trip from the Leo to our destination will work. That would be 5 to 7 maps but worth every penny, right? I will do that in the morning. Nighty night, all.
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I think 9:00 would be plenty of time to go approx. 30 blocks. How many of us? However many cabs are needed. We can be more specific Wed. night when we have dinner. I'm going to be at the Leo for breakfast Thursday morning early if that makes you feel any better.
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September 8-12, 2010
Everyone is invited!
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Autumn in New York, (are you singing?) What could be finer?
Based on the resounding success of our 10th Anniversary Gathering in NYC in 2008, we thought we'd try it again!~
Our Hotel: The Leo House: "The Little Heart in the Big City," with the best rates you'll find anywhere.
Hotel Information and Rates (http://www.seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/leohouse.html)
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Garden at the Leo House
If you are a Latin student, come meet some of your classmates, for a fun filled day or weekend:
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Classics Students at the Met, NYC 2008
Brief Schedule Outline
See below for details and plan to join us:
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Sept 8th-Wednesday: --Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM) for details. Ann plans for us to meet at the Fraunces Tavern Museum at 3pm. When the museum closes at 5pm, we'll walk to the Bridge Cafe, also historic, for dinner. Our reservation is for 6 pm. Fraunces Tavern is where George Washington and his generals met after or during the Revolution. The Bridge Cafe (http://bridgecafenyc.com/New_York_Restaurant_cafe_Tavern/the-menu/)
Thursday 9/9: --LucyLibr--plans a cruise on the Hudson. Contact: Lucy (Lucylibr@aol.com) for details.
Friday 9/10
Morning at the Met:
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9:30: Note new time! Join us for a private tour of the Met with Assisted Listening Devices on the topic (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/Graphics/illuminatedma140.jpg) The History of Book Binding, Books, Illuminated Manuscripts and Related Works. Free to SeniorLearn, only 4 slots remaining!
---Followed by Lunch in the Atrium Cafe under the glass.
---Followed by a short seque open to all to see the Cubiculum of Villa of P. Fannius Synistor, and the Monteleone Chariot! See email.
---After Lunch: Free Afternoon at Leisure
Saturday 9/11: Our First Author's Tea at the award winning Sarabeth's, see below! -
Sunday 9/12
Alf is planning a Surprise Venue for Breakfast! Contact: Andrea (WFlannery@cfl.rr.com) for details.
Those wanting to go to Ellis Island will convene in the Lobby of the Leo. As an alternative, Ann plans a trip to the Tenement Museum. OR just do your own thing! Contact: ginny (gvinesc@gmail.com) for details.
Other Enticements:
Pedl'n plans a day at the newest NYC park, the High Line. http://www.thehighline.org/ (http://www.thehighline.org/) Contact: Pedln (ann.bartlett@att.net) for details.
Eloise will be our Coordinator daily at Breakfast at the Leo House. She will be at the cafeteria for an hour to take messages and keep everybody informed on what is happening on that day.
Additional Possibilities:
The short terms, unscheduled -- High Line Park, with maybe a visit to Chelsea Market nearby, Union Square, The Strand, Chelsea Market, shopping, Tenement House and Museum, Botanical Gardens, Etaly if open, a Broadway Show, Algonquin or Chelsea Hotels, concerts, opera, bus tour of NYC, etc.
Monday 9/13: : Travel Day: Departure
New!!
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Join us on September 11 in this award winning restaurant looking out on the Park for one of their famous Teas, at less than half price, $10 only, no tax, and enjoy meeting our authors, Bruce Frankel, and Maryann McFadden:
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We'll be discussing Maryann McFadden's book, here on SeniorLearn beginning August 15 - at
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Talking Heads ~ "What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life" (http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=1572.0)
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For a map go to MTA NYC Transit and look at the subway system map. It gives you an idea of how the city is laid out, east and west on either side of the Hudson. You are staying on west side which is where the cruise port and Times Square are. I use Mapquest for specific locations like the Tenement Museum the other night.
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You are staying on west side
Thank you Lucy! This is something I occasionally wonder about, and now we know.
East Side, West Side, all around the town...
The cops play ring a rose, London Bridge is falling down.
Boys and girls together, me and Mamie O'Rourke
Trip the light fantastic ON the sidewalks of New York!
Where do these songs COME from? That's an old one, for sure. I always thought we were on the East side, shows you what I know!
Andrea, no, I don't need a check, thank you tho, let me see how cheap we can get it!
HOORAY!
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I think 9:00 would be plenty of time to go approx. 30 blocks. How many of us? However many cabs are needed. We can be more specific Wed. night when we have dinner. I'm going to be at the Leo for breakfast Thursday morning early if that makes you feel any better.
Thank you Lucy for your great help. That information is so appreciated especially for those not familiar with NYC like me. I don't know how many registered, I don't remember seeing a recent head count, but at the Montreal Bash one taxi driver drove 5 people to the wrong pier and they almost missed the dinner cruise if it had not been for someone going to get them.
The cruise will finish around 12:30, just in time for lunch somewhere nearby and then we will probably spread out in different directions.
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yes, Ginny, please don't forget to tell us what we owe for riding in such high style to the Met! Aren't we lookin' grand?!!
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The cruise is 3 hours. You can choose a shorter one, or if the weather is not good, take a bus tour instead.
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I was toying with the idea while in NYC of seeing them tape a TV show. There's a website on NYC TV Tickets where you can see who is taping what. The Rachel Ray show seemed to fit in for Thursday, they tape at 2:30, and the View, but the View you have to go in the morning, the Rachel Ray show seemed a good idea. . You can go to any of the websites and see about tickets, just throwing this out for whatever.
We may need to have alternate plans for for Weather Contingencies, not only for the Circle Cruise but also for Ellis Island.
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Oh wow, I never thought of that Ginny. I would love to see a show. I like the View, I'd love to a witness to the energy and the arguements. I'm in.
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Tickets for the View: http://theview.abc.go.com/tickets
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Is anyone else interested in doing this?
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I have applied for a ticket to the Rachel Ray Show, after reading carefully the times they tape. They tape at 4 pm on Tuesdays Wednesdays and Thursdays. To see the 4 pm show you have to arrive with your email ticket, which is not a ticket it just gets you the chance to stand in line (hopefully it will rain on those of us in line so I can get a seat) at 2:15.
I can be there at 2:15, and so I'm going to try for the show because I do watch her and after seeing them seat an audience on the website, I see I have a lot to learn about how TV shows, particularly cooking shows, work. Should we get rained out of our Circle Line Cruise, I'll do the early taping, it's my rain check on the day.
There is a list of all the TV shows taping in NYC, this is not the best link but I would not use these people but go directly TO the website OF the individual show.
http://www.nytix.com/Links/TV/
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Andrea, we were posting together. I'd love to see them tape a show, but have committed to the Cruise, so I can do both with Rachel Ray, hopefully they will send me a ticket and it will pour rain on all of us in line at 2:15 so I can get a seat. hahaha
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This is a revised list of things that were mentioned for the free or loose time.
The Strand -
Book Store in Greenwich Village
Top of the Rock, Times Square.
Marquis Hotel Revolving Restaurant
Tenement Museum and Book store
Ellis Island
St. Patrick’s Cathedral
High Line Park
Chelsea Market
Cloisters
Foreign films
Guggenheim
Bus tour of Manhattan
Ground Zero
Broadway Show
Off Broadway show
Union Square
Lunch at Eataly
Window shopping on Broadway
Greenwich Village bookstore
TV show
Skating rink
Yes, we do need a B plan Ginny in case it rains but we have to pretty much know if there is a chance of rain in the morning before we leave for the day. I guess someone will have to look at the weather forecast to know if we need an umbrella or a B plan.
I don’t care for seeing a TV show taped. I have never really seen New York much and I would prefer the old tourist attractions and the glitz and glamour of the Big Apple.
Has anyone heard from Gay? I emailed her but I got no answer.
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If rain cancels our cruise, I'm off to the Guggenheim or MoMa or some such. Or, if you really want something cool to supplant a rainy cruise, take the subway direct to the Brooklyn Museum and see the permanent exhibit of Judy Chicago's Dinner Party. Fantastic. I go to see it just about every time I come to NY.
I really don't like being held to a lot of schedules, so will pass on the TV show.
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If it's rainy, The Museum of the American Indian is a great place to go. The building is absolutely beautiful and the exhibits are very interesting and well mounted. It's way downtown at 1 Bowling Green not far from a lot of other interesting sites. Link here:
http://www.ny.com/museums/national.museum.of.the.american.indian.html
The museum is free since it's part of the Smithsonian!!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't choose a TV taping - would rather hang out in a bookshop or go to the Morgan Library.
The Cathedral of St. John the Divine is fascinating - has been under construction for about a century now and is a great place to visit although it's way uptown. I see that the #11 bus goes right up there. I've been there before but only on one of Meg's library trips.
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I too would like to see the Gugenheim or The Morgan.
We have taken tour of St John the Divine and it was so incredible. Loved that church. Its well worth the trip.
And Pedl'n has made a super suggestion for the Brooklyn Museum of Art to see "The Dinner Party". There is a complete explanation and pictures in a pre room which is worth your time before you see the exhibit. Judy Chicago's ideas are something else.
JoanR, I looked up the Indian Museum and came to this listing of their exhibits. I would be interested in see
"Up Where We Belong: Native Musicians in Popular Culture" Here's the link to all their exhibiits:
http://www.nmai.si.edu/subpage.cfm?subpage=exhibitions&second=dc&third=current (http://www.nmai.si.edu/subpage.cfm?subpage=exhibitions&second=dc&third=current)
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Bob and I went on the Circle Cruise this afternoon, leaving at 4:30, which he preferred because the light is better for photography and that's what he's interested in. It was a perfect day, hot, clear, and not so humid. The trip is great, the narration most informative, detailed, and interesting and very easy to hear. The ship is clean and new and has nice bathrooms. We could not actually circle Manhattan because the tide was too high to allow us to go under the Harlem Bridge, but we turned around and I think saw more because that end of the trip is not as interesting. The best place for sightseeing and taking photos is the bow, but I could see plenty from my seat.
Yes, Ginny, they do take pictures when you board the ship, and they charge $25 for them. We took pictures of another couple and they took one of us with Bob's camera, not that we really need photos. We have such nice ones from when we were young and pretty!
There were limos lined up at the pier when we got off the ship, so I asked how much to go to Chelsea Market--$45.00 for 10 people.
Another idea I had was to have lunch in the area and then take the bus tour--see the same areas by land and by sea.
Does everyone understand that you must sign up in advance for specific tours at the Tenement Museum? If you go to tha facility we went to the other night, all you will see is the store and a few minor displays.
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Anyone want to go to St. Thomas Church Sunday afternoon for evensong and organ concert?
I don't believe there is any ice skating this time of year.
Top of the Rock is at Rockefeller Center, 49th and 5th Avenue, approx., and near St. Patrick's and St. Thomas's.
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Lucy, that's great info. And new ideas and my head is spinning. The Sunday concert at St. Thomas sounds good, so does Ellis Island.
The limo to Chelsea Market sounds pretty reasonable.
My head is spinning with all these choice.
I'm thinking that the cruise around Manhattan that I took with my girls was not a Circle cruise. It must have been the one that left from South Seaport 'cause we started and ended downtown.
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Lucy,
Are you suggesting that we hire a limo or two to get to the cruise line docks?? Would that be the same price??
How many of us are going on the cruise from the Leo??
May I ask what temps we maybe could expect at that time of the year which is only 3 weeks away??? Yikes??
I am still debating on what kind of clothing to take. Today will be replacing old Nikes with new ones in dark and light colors??? Something like that. So, maybe we ought to be keeping the weather underground clickable up in the heading for everyone to check on??
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Annie, make it easy on yourself. Take the same clothes you took two years ago. ;D
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If I still can find them, that is what I planned.
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The limos are available when you get off the ship, so we can decide then depending on what we want to do and how many there are.
It will be quite hot, 80's I would think in the daytime, so, right, the clothes you had 2 years ago. We have had a very hot summer! You will need a lightweight sweater or jacket for evenings and cooler days if we are lucky enough to have them.
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And we can also hope your room has air conditioning otherwise another legend will be born. :)
I very much like the idea of limos at the dock. Is there any place to eat near the dock or should we come into town? I vote into town.
Remember that time we took another black market limo like these after a show in the Theater District and we found it was cheaper per person than a cab would be? I think it was 5 bucks each or something like that.
IF the Rachel Ray show sends me a ticket I will need somebody to take my camera, (it's small), you can't take a camera in the studio. I wonder what they do about cell phones, most of them take photos too.
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Jerry Lee Lewis will take the part of his own character in Million Dollar Quartet on Broadway in a one time performance on September 10, at 8 pm. This is Friday, the day of our Met Morning.
Only in New York!
I've got a crummy seat as this is one of those electric things that you read about and I saw him not too long ago on something and he was pretty amazing. If you'd like to go with, just holler, we can share a cab? (Fat chance of getting one on Friday) or a subway back.
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The limos are at the dock, but I was thinking if you took one to Chelsea Market and High Line you would want to eat there where there are so many good places.
You won't have any trouble getting a subway any time--just squeeze in and you would be going only a few blocks.
Anyone want to see Billy Elliott? or Next to Normal?
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Pedln, Is the MoMA something like the Musée d’Orsay in Paris? The term Modern Art usually means for me something too modern like Expressionism which I don’t really care about. But I do like the Impressionists, guess how old I am. In any case I will add it to the list and we will see later on what I will be able to fit in.
Lucy. Oh! I must Google Judy’s Chicago Dinner Party, it sounds super. Anyone want to go to St. Thomas Church Sunday afternoon for evensong and organ concert?
I would like to coordinate visits that are near each other and bring back more fantastic memories home with me.
Ann, So, maybe we ought to be keeping the weather underground clickable up in the heading for everyone to check on??
I guess you mean the New York weather, forgive my stupidity. But why “underground”
Ginny, I think I saw somewhere that the Leo has air conditioning, I will look again. I think it is a must don’t you? BUT I saw on their site that the buffet style breakfast is served every day except Sunday
So Sunday we go out to eat where? Do they keep the Cafeteria open so we can have a mini meeting there?
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I think some rooms are not air conditioned, cross your fingers.
Oh my gosh at the list of restaurants at the Chelsea Market!! If we went there, how would we ever choose? Good heavens, is that Morimoto? I'm a sandwich freak. I tried to read the Cafe Menu of Amy's Bread, and had to stop, the sandwiches absolutely looked to die for, am drooling, here goes the diet, and there's a book store, too. Definitely putting that one on my list.
Good point, Eloise, about the Sunday Breakfast, we'll need an alternate venue. I don't recall if the dining room will still be open, but there's a sort of....whatever room on the first floor leading to the garden, or maybe the lobby would do for us that one day.. Maybe Ann can find out.
I see in the NY Times that Eataly is also supposed to open the last of August in the Flatiron district and that, too, looks like the end of the world, cross your fingers again!
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Are we talking about Sunday's breakfast??? There are a plethora of restaurants all around the Leo. Surely, someone has a brunch or breakfast offering. And we could all travel to the Chelsea Market for an early breakfast?? How far away is it?? Could we walk?? We can ask at the front desk. I am sure they will know.
Egad, Ginny, you were lucky to get in at all. I suppose the tickets are way up there in cost and we have already committed to the Sunday play. Can't do everything that comes up.
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The Chelsea Market appears to be at 75 9th Avenue (Between 15th and 16th Streets), that's a fair hike, depending on what condition one is in, on a beautiful day, not for me in the rain, and Eataly is or will be at 200 5th Ave, too far for any brunch type thing.
Gosh I hope the heat lets up, am getting very excited!~! NEW YORK! And SENIOR LEARN, what a group you are, coming from Canada and England, anhd all over everywhere, Illinois (let's get a list) New York, Florida, South Carolina, who is left out? This is VERY exciting, can't wait! We definitely need a group photo with our authors at Sarabeth's and everywhere else we can get one.
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You left out MISSOURI!!! >:(
Who is coming from Illinois?
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Missouri!~!! I sure did! I thought Mary was from Illinois, and I forgot Ohio too!
Canada, England, Florida, Missouri, Ohio, South Carolina, New York, where else?
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Mary is from Indiana but she is now living in North Carolina so you can add NC to the list.
Pedl'n,
JeanneP is from Champaign, IL, but I haven't heard a word from her in weeks so don't know if she is still coming or not. I did write her several times but no answer as yet.
I also emailed Gay Hector a few days ago but all is silent in England right now. Gosh, I hope she hasn't changed her mind.
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Things are shaping up pretty good. It's so exciting I can't wait.
Are we talking about Sunday's breakfast??? There are a plethora of restaurants all around the Leo. Surely, someone has a brunch or breakfast offering. And we could all travel to the Chelsea Market for an early breakfast?? How far away is it?? Could we walk?? We can ask at the front desk. I am sure they will know.
I just put the information about the Leo not serving breakfast on Sundays because of the mini meeting where we talk about plans for the day. I suggest that we not go too far away because we don’t all get up at the same time and I will only be available until about 9 when I might be leaving for a visit. A restaurant next to the Leo would be the best for me.
We talked about going to Ellis Island on Sunday. Is that still good? At what time do we want to go there. If it’s around 10, then we would be able to plan something for lunch and the free time afterwards. Is there someone who looked at the times to go there? I completely forgot who is organizing it.
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I love the idea of a bruch. At the end of the block there is a diner that would be able to accommodate us, as well.
I have a friend who used to be a cop on that beat, would you like me to ask him what he would suggest? He lived right around that area. I walked to the Chelsea Market the last time we were in NY City. Is there anyone who would have a problem with that? It's not that far ginny.
I ordered tickets to see Million $ Quartet AND Viagra Falls. with any luck at all we may be seated close together (or not.) ::)
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Me! I am organizing it, we said we'd assemble in the Lobby, and go from there. I suggest an early start, maybe 9 am but we can do 10 and that will give everybody going time to get breakfast and we can then hail a cab to the seaport, which is not the same thing as where we get the Circle Cruise. I'll be right back with the times for Sunday's excursion to Ellis Island for those planning to go.
There are a lot of coffee shops, etc., around the area.
Hold on!
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The ferry to Ellis Island also goes to the Statue of Liberty, what fun to see it up so close. I don't know if anybody will want to go to the Statue also on the way back. Apparently one ticket does both. It seems, depending on which site you visit, it's either $14.00 or less for seniors.
Location and Directions
The Statue of Liberty Ferry departs from Battery Park on the southern tip of Lower Manhattan.
Subway:
* 1 to South Ferry
* 4, 5 to Bowling Green
* R to Whitehall Street
Security:
* Visitors to the Park are required to undergo airport style security screening. Visitors to the Monument undergo additional security screening.
* All persons and property are subject to search.
* Large bags are not allowed on Liberty or Ellis Islands.
* There are no locker facilities at the New York and New Jersey embarkation points.
* There are locker facilities on Liberty Island for Monument visitors.
* Backpacks, strollers and large umbrellas are not permitted in the Monument.
* Food (even unopened) and drinks (including water) are not allowed inside the Statue of Liberty.
* All weapons are prohibited, including: Firearms, explosives or flammables, knives or sharp objects (including tools), pepper spray and mace.
Security is managed by the United States Park Police.
NOTE about the Crown: NYCVP does not sell or reserve tickets to climb the 354 steps to the Statue's crown.
Here is the schedule from another site: it appears to be about every 20 minutes and stops at the Statue of Liberty first. So if we allow 1/2 hour to get TO Battery Park and buy our tickets, get in line and actually get ON the ferry, what time would you all like to leave? We've got all day, if you like, if you don't you can always board an earlier boat home, it's our day. I love things like this!
4 Boat Schedule 830-430
Depart from Battery Park Arrive at Liberty Island Depart from Liberty Island Arrive at Ellis Island Depart from Ellis Island Arrive at Battery Park
8:30 AM 8:45 AM 8:55 AM 9:10 AM 9:20 AM 9:30 AM
8:50 AM 9:05 AM 9:15 AM 9:30 AM 9:40 AM 9:50 AM
9:10 AM 9:25 AM 9:35 AM 9:50 AM 10:00 AM 10:10 AM
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Just FYI, we now have 3 going Friday night at 8 pm to see Million Dollar Quartet with Jerry Lee Lewis (who I thought had passed on until I saw him on TV and he was GOOD, he's a long way from gone). If of course he can do the show at all. IF he can it will be one of those Broadway events you see on TV, magic. Golly moses, I just read another article on him: he's only 74!!! He'll sing at the end, with the cast, it should bring the house down.
As it turns out, we're all in the left orchestra, I'm in J in the middle, (you can choose your own seats on Ticktmaster), rows behind the other two but I can keep an eye on them. You are welcome to come and hear a night of music of songs you know, and enjoy a Broadway Play with us Friday night if you like. Alternatively, the St. Thomas evensong and free organ concert are to die for, I went with Lucy last time and it's quite something, so that's free , as well as the possibility of music at the met itself that night, but I don't know that and can't find it. They ARE open till 9 however.
The theater is the Nederlander, on 41st and 7th, a couple of blocks down from Times Square, and one block (short) from the 42nd Street subway mega station, so we can go immediately back to 23rd on the train. Have written Lucy to ask about the express, if we can get it there.
So that's ONE Broadway possibility if you are interested. If you have not seen the Lion King, then I'd see it, without a doubt, probably a matinee. I love that thing, have seen it 3 times, once in London.
Yes Gay is coming, she's all excited, she's riding in with Andrea and me.
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Thanks Ginny, it's good to be reminded. I like the idea to all go for breakfast together and leave from there for Ellis Island. I say $14.00 is really inexpensive for something like that. I am saving all the time on some things so I can splurge for others, perhaps a nice dinner and a show or something.
I would love to see Lion King Ginny, but I will pass on Million Dollar Quartet though.
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I have a friend who used to be a cop on that beat, would you like me to ask him what he would suggest? He lived right around that area.
Oh yes, please do ask him where to have Breakfast, Andrea, what fun!
Andrea is in charge of Sunday Breakfast/ Brunch!
When do you all want to leave (those of you going to Ellis Island) for Battery Park Sunday morning?
Andrea are you going September 10 at 8:00 pm to Million Dollar Quartet? If so where is your seat?
Elloise, I like the way this is shaping up too, I think that's a good price for all you get. I can't wait.
When do those of you going to Ellis Island want to leave the breakfast for Battery Park?
WHEE!
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For Sunday breakfast at our last stay at the Leo House, my sister and I walked up to the diner -only a half block west & then straight across the avenue. We had a very nice breakfast with good and friendly service. I would definitely go back there again.
Do you really think that a half hour is enough time to go from the Leo to the battery and stand in line for tix? With no traffic problems it's possible but this would be the 9/11 anniversary weekend and there might be tie-ups way downtown. Can we find out about the ceremonies that are planned?
Meg is out of town this weekend but when she comes back I'll ask her how much time a proper visit to Ellis Island takes. She led a trip there for her library a couple of years ago. I think it was the only one of her forays that I missed! The Mom always gets a good seat on the bus!
I sure hope this hot weather will be gone before the Soiree. Pour libations to the climate gods!!!!!
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September 8-12, 2010
Everyone is invited!
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Autumn in New York, (are you singing?) What could be finer?
Based on the resounding success of our 10th Anniversary Gathering in NYC in 2008, we thought we'd try it again!~
Our Hotel: The Leo House: "The Little Heart in the Big City," with the best rates you'll find anywhere.
Hotel Information and Rates (http://www.seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/leohouse.html)
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Garden at the Leo House
If you are a Latin student, come meet some of your classmates, for a fun filled day or weekend:
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Classics Students at the Met, NYC 2008
Brief Schedule Outline
See below for details and plan to join us:
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Sept 8th-Wednesday: --Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM) for details. Ann plans for us to meet at the Fraunces Tavern Museum at 3pm. When the museum closes at 5pm, we'll walk to the Bridge Cafe, also historic, for dinner. Our reservation is for 6 pm. Fraunces Tavern is where George Washington and his generals met after or during the Revolution. The Bridge Cafe (http://bridgecafenyc.com/New_York_Restaurant_cafe_Tavern/the-menu/)
Thursday 9/9: --LucyLibr--plans a cruise on the Hudson. Contact: Lucy (Lucylibr@aol.com) for details.
Friday 9/10
Morning at the Met:
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9:30: Note new time! Join us for a private tour of the Met with Assisted Listening Devices on the topic (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/Graphics/illuminatedma140.jpg) The History of Book Binding, Books, Illuminated Manuscripts and Related Works. Free to SeniorLearn, only 4 slots remaining!
---Followed by Lunch in the Atrium Cafe under the glass.
---Followed by a short seque open to all to see the Cubiculum of Villa of P. Fannius Synistor, and the Monteleone Chariot! See email.
---After Lunch: Free Afternoon at Leisure
Saturday 9/11: Our First Author's Tea at the award winning Sarabeth's, see below! -
Sunday 9/12
Alf is planning a Surprise Venue for Breakfast! Contact: Andrea (WFlannery@cfl.rr.com) for details.
Those wanting to go to Ellis Island will convene in the Lobby of the Leo. As an alternative, Ann plans a trip to the Tenement Museum. OR just do your own thing! Contact: ginny (gvinesc@gmail.com) for details.
Other Enticements:
Pedl'n plans a day at the newest NYC park, the High Line. http://www.thehighline.org/ (http://www.thehighline.org/) Contact: Pedln (ann.bartlett@att.net) for details.
Eloise will be our Coordinator daily at Breakfast at the Leo House. She will be at the cafeteria for an hour to take messages and keep everybody informed on what is happening on that day.
Additional Possibilities:
The short terms, unscheduled -- High Line Park, with maybe a visit to Chelsea Market nearby, Union Square, The Strand, Chelsea Market, shopping, Tenement House and Museum, Botanical Gardens, Etaly if open, a Broadway Show, Algonquin or Chelsea Hotels, concerts, opera, bus tour of NYC, etc.
Monday 9/13: : Travel Day: Departure
New!!
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9/11: Our First Ever Author Tea at Sarabeth's on Central Park between 5th and 6th Avenue: This is our room! (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/Sarabethsskylightroom.jpg)
Join us on September 11 in this award winning restaurant looking out on the Park for one of their famous Teas, at less than half price, $10 only, no tax, and enjoy meeting our authors, Bruce Frankel, and Maryann McFadden:
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"I can think of no writer I'd rather have sing me songs of the sea, even sad ones, than Maryann McFadden."---Anne Rivers Siddons
We'll be discussing Maryann McFadden's book, here on SeniorLearn beginning August 15 - at
"So Happy Together" (http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=1506.0) Join us today!
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Bruce Frankel’s book, "What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life" is inspirational! "This upbeat, inspiring, timely book shows how taking a risk and fighting to find a passionate career — at any age — can reinvigorate your life...”— Susan Shapiro
Come join Bruce now - and be inspired!
Talking Heads ~ "What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life" (http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=1572.0)
Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM) today to secure your place at the table! We have only a few seats left!~ Don't miss this one!!
See information about reservations at the LEO HOUSE (http://www.seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/leohouse.html). Deadline to reserve your accommodations is June 15!
Questions about the gathering? Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM)
As a New Yorker would say, "What's not to like?"
Join us if you can, you'll never forget it!
Sign in here and help us plan what you want to see and do!
Transportation:
Plan Your Trip! (http://tripplanner.mta.info/_start.aspx)
"For a map go to MTA NYC Transit and look at the subway system map. It gives you an idea of how the city is laid out, east and west on either side of the Hudson. You are staying on west side which is where the cruise port and Times Square are. I use Mapquest for specific locations like the Tenement Museum the other night." (Lucy)
Click to see the weather in NYC:
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That's a good point, happily we don't have any particular deadline to fill so we can catch any of the boats, let's find out how long it takes, it may take forever.
Thank you for the info also on the diner, is that the one we discussed a lot last time before we went? It might come in handy one evening too. I hope somebody will go with me to the mom n pop Italian place right next door one evening also.
As we say we can't do it all. Let's try. haahaha
We now have another Broadway Show on offer for people who might like to take in one, also in addition to the Viagra thing Andrea is going to, and the Million Dollar Quartet on the 10th, and that's the Lion King. This one would be at night, either 8 pm Thursday, Saturday at 8 pm or the 11th or 6:30 pm Sunday, let me know if you're interested in going with us and we'll collectively choose a date.
We have also a new calendar up top, view at your own peril. hahahaha
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Ginny,
There are four of us going to see Quartet---You, me, Andrea and Mary. He better show up!!
Mary and I have seats up in the crow's nest so you won't be waving at us. We are Row NN Seats 15,17. Those were the cheapest seats availble.
That diner is probably just fine. There is a corner resturant that we pass as we go to the diner. Their food is very good but they always seem to have a crowd. You can see the people in there as one of the sections is right out on the sidewalk under glass.
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Well I am in the nose bleed section 00107- with a slight revision of that # I could be a James Bond wanna BE.
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Andrea,
You are one row down from Mary and I, but on the right side of the mezzanine. The crow's nest!
Please read this to make sure you are on the list for The Fraunces Museum on Sept 8 at 3pm
With 6pm reservations at the Bridge Cafe:
Museum is located at 54 Pearl St
Ginny
Andrea
Mary
Ann
Pedl'n
Lucy
Gay
Zulema
Suzanne
Vivan
We can walk to the Bridge Cafe
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Again, make sure you are on this list and let me know if you aren't.
Sarabeth's
40 Central Park South
Sept 11 4pm-6pm-------17 attendees
Maryann McFadden
Bruce Frankel
Ginny
Andrea
Mary
Ann
Pedl'n
Liz
Judy
Gay
Lucy
JoanR
Meg
Vivian
Suzanne
Zulema
Eloise
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Annie, you have Gay on twice.
For the Lion King I like the Sunday 6:30 show even if there could be lots of children, they are the most attentive audience as they get right into it. But any other time is fine for me too. Saturday we have Sarabeth till 6, or later though. Will I go home in several pieces? :o
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Actually Saturday we have Sarabeth's ONLY until 6, they then begin the dinner trade, so we will have to leave, so we'll have to sandwich in our two authors, a group picture and a tea in those two hours. :)
On Sunday we'll be at Ellis Island, those going to a 6:30 show will have to leave early, to get there.
Ann, be funny if he doesn't show up!
Anybody else for The Lion King at 6:30 Sunday?
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Eloise,
Thanks again for telling me about the 2 Gays. Maybe they are twins?? hahaha!
Ginny,
We are the last diners in Sarabeth's because they have a Saturday Brunch which usually means they aren't going to be very busy after 4pm except with people like us. They do not offer dinner on Sat. night according to Michelle.
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Ok, good, are you saying then that we CAN linger on beyond 6? This is not what I understood. Can you find out? Long enough to take a group photo? I remember the Armory had something of the sort too, and we ran over and they actually began taking out the tables and the piano, so let's be clear on when we have to leave?
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Ann, regarding the Wednesday activities. I will NOT be at the Museum because my plane doesn't land until 2:40, and I may be a little late for dinner, depending on airplane time, etc. And I do want to check in first at Leo as I don't want to carry a laptop, CPAP, and suitcase downtown.
Andy, make sure they know I'm your roommate so they'll let me in. I'll take a cab down to dinner.
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Trust me Ann- After my lengthy conversations with the Leo house this week, they will remember. Rest assured, however, that when I get in I will remind them once again.
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Did you ask if these were there also? ;D
New York's Latest (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/21/nyregion/21bedbugs.html?src=me&ref=general)
I'm so glad my roomie's a nurse.
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Yikes!
Lucy has been the biggest help and the most patient to my incessant email queries about directions and transportation!!
You may not be from NYC, and I hope you have a better sense of direction than I do, I get lost leaving my own house, but I hope she doesn't mind, here are a few things she's told me lately which I needed to know and thought you might like too.
First off, remember the song Downtown? I've always been confused in NYC what was downtown. Or uptown. It seems that it's a very simple concept, Doofus:
Everybody SING: When you're alone and life is making you lonely, you can always go....
DOWNTOWN
Times Square (42nd) TO 23rd is DOWN town. When you go from a higher to a lower numbered street, you are going DOWNtown, from lower to higher is UPtown. Brooklyn from Manhattan is downtown.
No wonder I can't get it straight, I thought DOWN town was a specific AREA, like Times Square, so that (how dumb am I) no matter WHERE you were it was always DOWNTOWN. OK so now I've got DOWNtown. Since I don't live where the nearest city HAS a downtown, this is news.
Subway #1, will take you DOWN TOWN and UPTOWN easily, it's handy, about a half block away: right up at the corner (we're on 23rd between 7th and 8th but if you turn RIGHT upon exiting the Leo House, that cross street you see closest is 7th). There's one entrance on the right, but I don't recall if it's to DOWN or UP, we'll suss it out. I will say it's UP that will make it DOWN, such is my life o orientation.
The 7th Avenue Subway will take you direct to Times Square (UPTOWN)) or South Ferry Seaport (DOWNTOWN) (Lucy, please correct this) and is most handy for fast getting thru the city. Remember there are cabs easily caught in front of the Leo with or without the light on from the hotel, just step out with arm raised, and in Times Square under the Mariott Marquis covered drive in garage.
The Met of course is WAY UPtown, being on 81st and 82nd, where Times Square is somewhere around 42nd, 43rd, 44th. In that area.
Here's the best thing I ever saw, Lucy sent this: plan your own trip in NYC, where has this been all our lives?
http://tripplanner.mta.info/_start.aspx
I'm going to put that in the heading.
Ann, if you can find a link to the weather forecast you want, I'll put it in the heading too.
Exciting!!!! Thank you Lucy!
Of all the subway systems I've traveled on in Europe or the USA, the one in NYC is the most confusing and least well marked. There are something like 11 subways operating out of 42nd Street, it will be good to know since we're #! among sites for Seniors, we need #1. At least it is for me.
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I also want to say the lobby of the Mariott Marquis hotel which is on the 8th floor I think (just taking the elevators there is a trip, you punch in the floor you want and this indicator tells you which elevator to take, it's a hoot), anyway you can sit in a sort of bar area way to the left beyond the check in desk, and look straight down at the street and kill an hour or so looking at Times Square for the price of a coke.
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Here a link that is pretty thorough. http://www.wunderground.com/ (http://www.wunderground.com/)
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Thanks, up in the heading it goes!
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Oh! Times Square, how we hear about it. I have been there once about 10 years ago.
I understand you perfectly well Ginny not having a good sense of orientation myself, but I was born and raised in Montreal and I use the subway at least once a week. We have a downtown, but it's more the center of the city than 'up' or 'down' because of, I guess the geography. Our 'Metro' subway works by color, the green line is east west, the orange line is north south and north again, a sort of U. Then you have the blue line is east west but at a distance from the green line. It's fast, clean and safe. I came home day before yesterday at midnight, it was full, I am never scared of going by Metro.
For the New York subway do you use coins like on buses? I guess I can get coins at the Penn Station when I arrive even if I will take a cab to get to the Leo.
It's great to have the weather forecast in the heading, that way I will know not to pack too many things just because of what the weather might be like during 5 days. Thanks for putting it up there.
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Bedbugs, once nearly eradicated, have spread across New York City, in part because of the decline in the use of DDT.
I carry my own Ann. ;D
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IF ANYONE IS BRINGING THEIR LAPTOP PLEASE COPY THAT URL gINNY HAS GIVEN US.
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The directions Ginny has given look correct to me. The farthest reach of an uptown train is the Bronx as Brooklyn is the fathest downtown. I mention them only because you see them on signs--and can tell instantly in which direction you are going.
The bus that goes by the hotel is the M20. Bus stops include a map of where bus is going, but I ask if I'm not sure when I get on.
Any question you want answered, ask! If I don't know I will ask Bob who knows buses and subways very well.
I am wondering what you want to do after the cruise on Thursday and if you still want to go on the early morning ship. I am planning to come early for breakfast at the Leo, which I missed last time, but there is planty of time to make changes and no need to decide right now.
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Coins are good on the bus, but you need a metro card for the subway. I suggest buying one with a few rides if you think you will be riding the subway. They are available in machines at all (I think) subway stations. You can use an ATM card or a credit card or cash. You have to go to the ticket booth (many of these have been eliminated in NYC) to get a so-called senior fare, which consists of a regular metro card plus a slip of paper which you can show to a clerk who will let you through the gate marked special on your next ride.
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These same Metro Cards are good on the bus, are they?
I probably will not use the subways that much unless I know ahead of time that there is an elevator to the platform. So, if time is of the essence, I will probably take a cab when you all take the subway. Or a bus.
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Well I hate to say it, but I'm the original cab freak, will hail one and get in it at the drop of a hat, but I want to know the subway to our door just in case like at night you can't find a cab back, which has happened to me many times trying to get back. And once going TO, some of the cabbies don't like to drive to Times Square either.
NYC subways are not like other cities I have seen, there are a LOT of steps, they are dirty (sorry New Yorkers) crowded and unpleasant. But apparently the 7th line has the least graffiti. I don't mind the ambiance because I grew up in Philly with the same kind of subways but anybody expecting something modern or clean or without a million steps in crowded areas needs to think again.
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Ah, the subway. Your remarks, Ginny, made me remember what happened to Mary in one down by Wall Street. She started through a revolving gate and it stopped before she could get all the way around. There she was, stuck down below the streets of NYC and it was not late, maybe 8pm but no one was around to help us. Along comes a guy who was also planning to be on the same train that we were. He offered to swipe his card and get in the same door with Mary so she could get out. AND IT WORKED! We did have to kind of ignore him when he tried to be friendly and we had thanked him profusely, but we were not trusting that he would go away if we acted too nice.
I have some pictures of the subway stations at the Natural History Museum, the Brooklyn Art Museum and one other that we found after leaving Macy's in the dark. They were pretty clean and the murals were beautiful!
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Yes, the Metro card is good for both buses and subways. The subways are getting dirtier becasue of the budget problems. The MTA is constantly running low on funds--can't manage their accounting. Another fare increase on the way. But the fact that they get you everywhere and run all the time endears them to me.
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Lucy,
I am sorry to hear that but budget problems are affecting us all.
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Thank you SO much Lucy for all your help!
Ann, every time I think of the NYC subways I think of "The A Train is the A Train," which was the response you got when you asked a man on some subway platform which was the best train to the Cloisters. hahaha. That, to me, is quintessential New York.
Have laughed about that ever since, and of course he was right. :)
I've got my Broadway tickets in hand, they came yesterday, and am ready to go!! What last minute details do we need to do before we leave?
What last minute exciting things have popped up in NYC we want to know about? Is Eataly open yet? This is the 25th, it must be any day now. But the Chelsea Market will also be splendid!
Can't wait to see you all, this is SOO exciting!!
I think I'll reread Reliquary. It's not for the squeamish or faint hearted, I hasten to add, but I love Preston and Childs. Their book Relic is about the Museum of Natural History on Central Park and is DEFINITELY not for the squeamish, but Reliquary even I thought was over the top, I mean an abandoned subway station under NYC? I mean really, and then I found out the station so carefully detailed was real. Reading the MTA site is very educational. :) Again it's horror but boy you feel you've definitely had a trip there.
What have we left out?
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I received questions from Alf today about the museum and cafe on the first night of our get together and here's my answer to her.
This is the plan: We can meet at the Fraunces Tavern Museum around 3 or 4pm and when it closes at 5pm, we will saunter up to the Bridge Cafe where we have a reservation for 6pm.
If one doesn't want to go to the museum, one can just meet us at the Bridge Cafe at 6pm.
Here's the list of who's going where and when.
Ginny--
Andrea
Gay--Those three are arriving at the Leo together in the afternoon.
Ann--
Mary--We will be out about because we arrived on Tuesday so just plan on meeting with whoever wants to see the Fraunces Tavern Museum at 3pm.
Pedl'n--gets to the Leo around 4pm and the trio who are getting there about 2 or later, have offered to wait for her to get ready to go and then they will only go the Bridge Cafe.
Lucy
Vivian
Zulema
Suzanne--I don't know where they are coming from or whether they will go to the museum.
I need to know who is going to the museum so I know who to look for. Can you please let me know if I have included everyone for the Sept 8th afternoon and evening plans?
I have tried twice to contact the museum and will do so again. I want to know how long the exhibits will take to peruse. It may only take and hour and I will let everyone know before we leave home.
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I made my own schedule Ginny so I can see better what free time I have left and I only see two places, it's Friday afternoon after the Met and Saturday morning and early afternoon before the Tea at Serabeth. Pedln was talking about The Strand and High Line and Andrea about seeing St. Patricks, or St. John the Divine that I would like to see. But all that is still loose and can change up to the last minute.
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Eloise, what about Thursday afternoon, that's only a 3 hour cruise or do you have plans then?
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Actually I see free time Thursday Friday, Saturday and Sunday; each have a half day free. :)
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I went to the King Tut exhibit today in Times Square. Admission is $30 for seniors with tax, a ticket that includes Top of the Rock, $39. I suspect there are big crowds on weekends. There is also a movie for an extra price which I did not inquire about. There are videos and films throughout the exhibit that show much about the excavation--people in suits and ties carrying things out of the dig in 1922. I know most people have already seen Tut, because it traveled around several years ago, but I had not and enjoyed this very much. There is a chariot, apparently used by the young king, and much larger than the Roman one on view at the Met.
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No definite plans yet Ginny, I think it's Lucy who said it would be good to take bus tour of Manhattan after the cruise, which most of you have probably seen already. The only difficult thing for me to do alone would be transportation in a city I don't know my way around but I'll go anywhere on the list of things to do with somebody else. I am so excited to do this trip with you all you have no idea how much.
Sunday we have Ellis Island in AM and Lion King in PM, then there is FOOD to consider in between or go and freshen up at the hotel. We could go to the Marquis for something to eat before the theatre and it's close if I am not mistaken, correct me if I am wrong. After Lion King I will be ready to flop in bed as I will leave the next morning to catch my train at 8:15. I'll bring a pillow for the long train ride home.
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Ginny and Andy, that's lovely of you to say you'll wait for me at Leo HOuse on Wednesday. I don't want to make you all late for anything, nor do I want you to miss the Fraunces Museum on my account. Plane lands at 2:40, surely I can be at Leo by 4, even with all my encumberances -- laptop (for use in Brooklyn), walker, CPAP, and the Kindle which was shipped today.
I've never been to the Empire State Building. That might be on my list for one of the free afternoons. Anybody game or has everyone been there? Am trying to work up a schedule. Also must get serious about writing down places and addresses.
This place sounds like it might be a nice place to relax after dinner with one of those yummy dolled up coffees to watch the lights come on.
Top of the Strand (http://nymag.com/nightlife/barbuzz/11025/)
Or this one that's actually in Chelsea
Glass Bar at the Hotel Indigo (http://www.indigochelsea.com/dining/bar.php)
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Updated list of all the things we can do ??? I will consider myself lucky if I can do 3 of those.
The Strand -
Book Store in Grewich Village
Top of the Rock, Times Square.
Marquis Hotel Revolving Restaurant
Tenement Museum and Book store
Ellis Island
St. Patrick’s Cathedral
High Line Park
Chelsea Market
Cloisters
Foreign films
Guggenheim
Museum of Modern Art
Bus tour of Manhattan
Ground Zero
Broadway Show
Off Broadway show
Union Square
Lunch at Eataly
Window shopping on Broadway
Greenwich Village bookstore
TV show
Skating rink
The Museum of the American Indian
Morgan Library
St. John the Divine Cathedral
St. Thomas Church
Million Dollar Quartet
Top of the Strand
Glass Bar at Hotel Indigo
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The Empire State Building is all over the news lately, I've been several times so will pass but it's quite a trip up to the top if you don't have claustrophobia, so many things to do, so little time, and REMEMBER, just REMEMBER we don't NEED to kill ourselves, it's sometimes the small quiet moments you remember best.
And I guess if people really want to disembark and see the Statue of LIberty they better do it, it appears it's about to close for major repairs...in October?
I saw the Tut and it was fabulous, thank you for reminding us, Lucy. Where is it located on Times Square? I can't picture where it is? The old Virgin store?
They've also put a new sort of food court down from Times Square, down from the Milford Plaza, or they had, just local food, nothing fabulous.
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And the last night's Lion King at 6:30 Sunday!
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Wow what a list we have compiled for our venture into the city. I am getting so excited now that it is closer.
Pedln- I have been to the Empire State Bldg. numerous times but would love one of the roof tops you suggested. Heck we could walk to the one on w. 28th.
Here's another one if we want to just snack and not go for the big meal.
sipping and enjoying the lights of the city (http://http://nymag.com/listings/bar/rare-view-chelsea/)
I, too, have seen the Tut exhibit and just found out this AM that our play for the Sunday matinee will close after this weekend. Damn!!! Ok what else shall I plan? ;D
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King Tut exhibit is on 44th Street between 7th and 8th Avenues, open 7 days a week from 10-8 p.m. and Saturday till 9:00 p.m.
A good restaurant in Times Square is Juniors, a Brooklyn company, famous for cheesecake, on 46th opposite Marquis Hotel.
Cruise times are 10:00, 12:30, and 3:30. Have you decided on time and what you want to do after? We liked the late afternoon cruise, and we got finished at a good time to have dinner. It's up to you. I have a friend who is interested in SeniorLearn and would like to go on cruise and to High Line if it's okay with everyone. It's quite alright if she does not get to go.
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September 8-12, 2010
Everyone is invited!
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Autumn in New York, (are you singing?) What could be finer?
Based on the resounding success of our 10th Anniversary Gathering in NYC in 2008, we thought we'd try it again!~
Our Hotel: The Leo House: "The Little Heart in the Big City," with the best rates you'll find anywhere.
Hotel Information and Rates (http://www.seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/leohouse.html)
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Garden at the Leo House
If you are a Latin student, come meet some of your classmates, for a fun filled day or weekend:
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Classics Students at the Met, NYC 2008
Brief Schedule Outline
See below for details and plan to join us:
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Sept 8th-Wednesday: --Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM) for details. Ann plans for us to meet at the Fraunces Tavern Museum at 3:30 pm. When the museum closes at 5pm, we'll walk to the Bridge Cafe, also historic, for dinner. Our reservation is for 6 pm. Fraunces Tavern is where George Washington and his generals met after or during the Revolution. The Bridge Cafe (http://bridgecafenyc.com/New_York_Restaurant_cafe_Tavern/the-menu/)
Thursday 9/9: --LucyLibr--plans a cruise on the Hudson. Contact: Lucy (Lucylibr@aol.com) for details.
Friday 9/10
Morning at the Met:
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9:30: Note new time! Join us for a private tour of the Met with Assisted Listening Devices on the topic (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/Graphics/illuminatedma140.jpg) The History of Book Binding, Books, Illuminated Manuscripts and Related Works. Free to SeniorLearn, only 4 slots remaining!
---Followed by Lunch in the Atrium Cafe under the glass.
---Followed by a short seque open to all to see the Cubiculum of Villa of P. Fannius Synistor, and the Monteleone Chariot! See email.
---After Lunch: Free Afternoon at Leisure
Saturday 9/11: Our First Author's Tea at the award winning
Sarabeth's,
40 Central Park South
New York, N.Y. 10019
Phone 212 826 5959 Fax 212 826 0140
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Sunday 9/12
Alf is planning a Surprise Venue for Breakfast! Contact: Andrea (WFlannery@cfl.rr.com) for details.
Those wanting to go to Ellis Island will convene in the Lobby of the Leo. As an alternative, Ann plans a trip to the Tenement Museum. OR just do your own thing! Contact: ginny (gvinesc@gmail.com) for details.
Other Enticements:
Pedl'n plans a day at the newest NYC park, the High Line. http://www.thehighline.org/ (http://www.thehighline.org/) Contact: Pedln (ann.bartlett@att.net) for details.
Eloise will be our Coordinator daily at Breakfast at the Leo House. She will be at the cafeteria for an hour to take messages and keep everybody informed on what is happening on that day.
Additional Possibilities:
The short terms, unscheduled -- High Line Park, with maybe a visit to Chelsea Market nearby, Union Square, The Strand, Chelsea Market, shopping, Tenement House and Museum, Botanical Gardens, Etaly if open, a Broadway Show, Algonquin or Chelsea Hotels, concerts, opera, bus tour of NYC, etc.
Monday 9/13: : Travel Day: Departure
New!!
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9/11: Our First Ever Author Tea at
Sarabeth's,
40 Central Park South
New York, N.Y. 10019
Phone 212 826 5959 Fax 212 826 0140
on Central Park between 5th and 6th Avenue: This is our room! (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/Sarabethsskylightroom.jpg)
Join us on September 11 in this award winning restaurant looking out on the Park for one of their famous Teas, at less than half price, $10 only, no tax, and enjoy meeting our authors, Bruce Frankel, and Maryann McFadden:
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"I can think of no writer I'd rather have sing me songs of the sea, even sad ones, than Maryann McFadden."---Anne Rivers Siddons
We'll be discussing Maryann McFadden's book, here on SeniorLearn beginning August 15 - at
"So Happy Together" (http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=1506.0) Join us today!
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Bruce Frankel’s book, "What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life" is inspirational! "This upbeat, inspiring, timely book shows how taking a risk and fighting to find a passionate career — at any age — can reinvigorate your life...”— Susan Shapiro
Come join Bruce now - and be inspired!
Talking Heads ~ "What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life" (http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=1572.0)
Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM) today to secure your place at the table! We have only a few seats left!~ Don't miss this one!!
See information about reservations at the LEO HOUSE (http://www.seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/leohouse.html). Deadline to reserve your accommodations is June 15!
Questions about the gathering? Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM)
As a New Yorker would say, "What's not to like?"
Join us if you can, you'll never forget it!
Sign in here and help us plan what you want to see and do!
Transportation:
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"For a map go to MTA NYC Transit and look at the subway system map. It gives you an idea of how the city is laid out, east and west on either side of the Hudson. You are staying on west side which is where the cruise port and Times Square are. I use Mapquest for specific locations like the Tenement Museum the other night." (Lucy)
Click to see the weather in NYC:
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I looked up some addresses that I thought might be useful.
The Strand - 828 Broadway
Book Store in Greenwich Village
Top of the Rock, Times Square. 44th street between 7th and 8th ave.
Marquis Hotel Revolving Restaurant 1535 Broadway
Tenement Museum and Book store 97 Orchard Street
Ellis Island Port of New York
St. Patrick’s Cathedral 460 Madison Avenue
High Line Park
Chelsea Market 75 9th Avenue (Between 15th and 16th Streets),
Cloisters
Foreign films
Guggenheim 1071 Fifth Avenue (at 89th Street
Museum of Modern Art 11 West 53 Street
Bus tour of Manhattan
Ground Zero
Broadway Show
Off Broadway show
Union Square East 17th Street
Eataly West 23rd Street near Fifth Avenue,
Window shopping on Broadway
Greenwich Village bookstore
TV show
King Tut exhibition
Skating rink 601 5th Avenue,
King Tut Exhibition
The Museum of the American Indian 1 Bowling Green,
Morgan Library 225 Madison Ave,
St. John the Divine Cathedral 1047 Amsterdam Avenue,
St. Thomas Church 1 West 53rd Street,
Million Dollar Quartet 253 West 125th Street
Top of the Strand 33 West 37th Street
Glass Bar at Hotel Indigo 127 West 28th Street
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Eloise - the front of St. Patrick's is on 5th Ave right across from Rockefeller Center. That address on Madison must be where the offices are - a mailing address, I suppose.
I plan to go to Evensong on Sunday afternoon when we get back from Ellis Island if it works out that way. I enjoyed it so much at our previous soiree that I'd love to go again. Meg will have gone home by then - hope someone else wants to go.
The only things written in stone for me are: the Met (!), the HighLine Park, Sarabeth, and Ellis Island. There's plenty of free chunks of time to do some of the other enticements. Will wait for the Breakfast Conferences!
Last time we went to NYC as a group it was a bit later in Sept. and I see everyone wearing jackets in the photos. This time is a bit of a puzzler!
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http://www.thehighline.org/tours--that's the web site for the High Line, which conducts a tour every Saturday at 11:00 a.m. including Sept. 11.
I can't make it come up as a link, but that's it if anyone is interested.
Top of the Rock is at 50th between 5th and 6th Avenues, not Times Square. It's near St. Patricks and is one of the most crowded places in NYC but great to visit.
I don't think there will be any ice skating this time of year. You can check indoor facilities like Chelsea Piers, but I doubt it's worth your time.
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Cruise times are 10:00, 12:30, and 3:30. Have you decided on time and what you want to do after? We liked the late afternoon cruise, and we got finished at a good time to have dinner. It's up to you. I have a friend who is interested in SeniorLearn and would like to go on cruise and to High Line if it's okay with everyone. It's quite alright if she does not get to go.
I don't know, this is a good question, Lucy, what do you all think? A morning cruise followed by lunch or an afternoon one on Thursday followed by dinner?
Lucy of course your friend interested in SeniorLearn is welcome, with bells on! Would she also like to go to any of the other events?
Joan I loved the Evensong and the concert, wish I could go but Sunday we're going to the Lion King at 6:30. I hope somebody else wants to go with you!
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Joan, if I'm still alive after Ellis Island, I would like to go to Evenson(g) with you.
Ha ha -- that's my maiden name.
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I will go with the majority but my energy is highest in the morning. Perhaps because here I go to bed early and am up early, In New York though it might be very different. If we go at 3:30 we will be spread out doing different things before the cruise and will have to find our way to the port. If we go for the 10:30, we could all leave together after breakfast, it's just a thought.
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Yes, Joan, I'll go to chuirch--will check on services and times.
I did check, and they don't have info up for September. I'll check later.
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Eloise, I agree with you. Start out together in the morning, disperse later.
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I am up for any time everyone wants to go on the cruise.
Evensong sounds so good. What church are you planning on being in and what time? Just in case those of us who aren't going to Ellis Island want to go also.
Is it getting cold where in the east right now?? Our temps have been dropping this week and now I am betwixt and between as to what to take for clothing. I guess anything would work as long one has a sweater or a jacket or, in my case, a light rain coat to throw on for preventing a chill off the water.
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I forgot to mention that I will be out of town for the next four days visiting friends in eastern West Virginia. We plan on a visit to the radio telescope facility near their home plus a ride on the Cass Scenic Railroad. We hope to spend one night on their deck, wrapped in blankets, enjoying the sky and stars above. They live way out in the mountains and have no city lights to prevent such an evening.
I will try to go online but haven't much hope for that in the mountains.
Ciao!
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Look at what I found in my email this morning! Wow!
Photo Op Flyover by Statue of Liberty
The Alliance for Downtown New York has been informed by the New York City Police Department that a photo op mission by the Brazilian Smoke Squadron is scheduled over the Statue of Liberty, on Thursday, August 26, 2010 at 10:00 AM.
The airplanes will enter New York Harbor, fly over the Verrazano Bridge, pass the Statue of Liberty, and continue north above the Hudson River.
It will involve (8) T-27 turboprop aircraft and (1) C-130 turboprop aircraft operating between 1,500 and 2,000 feet.
Visit DowntownNY.com for more information
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For our first night in the city:
This is the plan: We can meet at the Fraunces Tavern Museum around 3 or 4pm, I have to check on how long the exhibits will keep us occupied. When it closes at 5pm, we will saunter up to the Bridge Cafe where we have a reservation for 6pm.
If one doesn't want to go to the museum, one can just meet us at the Bridge Cafe at 6pm.
Here's the list of who's going where and when.
Ginny--
Andrea
Gay--Those three are arriving at the Leo together in the afternoon.
Ann--
Mary--We will be out about because we arrived on Tuesday so just plan on meeting with whoever wants to see the Fraunces Tavern Museum at 3pm.
Pedl'n--gets to the Leo around 4pm and the trio who are getting there about 2 or later, have offered to wait for her to get ready to go and then they will only go the Bridge Cafe.
Lucy
Vivian
Zulema
Suzanne--I don't know where they are coming from or whether they will go to the museum.
I need to know who is going to the museum so I know who to look for. Can you please let me know if I have included everyone for the Sept 8th afternoon and evening plans?
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We had a few cool days. but it is warming up now and is supposed to be in the 90's Sunday and Monday. I expect it to be in the 80's cooling off at night while you are here.
I plan to be at the Fraunces.
That photo op should be good from the Circle Line Cruise.
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Did you say the photo Fly Over the Statue of Liberty is on August 26th Ann? Then it has happened already, unless the month should be September.
The weather here has cooled down a lot, this morning it's not even 70 F in Montreal. I will have to bring layers to peel off if it gets too hot. But as Lucy said we might get the 80s in September. I bet New York City has not cooled off much since the heat wave. We are starting Fall weather, but it's nice too.
I am checking which small enough luggage I am taking. Shoes take up lots of space.
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Shoes take up lots of space.
I guess there's some consolation to lousy feet. ;D
I wear one pair and pack another in case the first pair gets wet.
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I'm planning to go to Evensong at St.Thomas on 53rd & 5th Ave - I'm sure they will have an organ concert as well as their great choir. That was just wonderful last time. Glad you want to go too, Pedln!
I pack very light - a necessity since my strength isn't what it used to be and I still like to tote my own stuff!! My carry-on has wheels & only measures 13X19 inches but I can manage for a week with it.
If one is wearing black pants, no one will notice that you're wearing black walking shoes instead of dressy shoes! Or if they do, I don't care. I wasn't planning on extra shoes in case of wet feet, but you have made me reconsider - perhaps some lightweight black sandals would be an emergency fall-back.
The Empire State Bldg roof is spectacular but it would take up a lot of time and is very crowded. Top of the Rock is a crowded tourist attraction - you can buy timed tickets on-line which helps. They are $19.00 for seniors. Why not save your money, go to the roof of the Metropolitan museum when we are there - the view is lovely if not as spectacular!!
You've probably had your lofty view from the CN tower in Toronto, Eloise!!
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Hello, everybody
I've been away since the 14th and though near the internet, didn't have much of a chance to look at it except for my e-mail.
I was planning to go to Fraunces Tavern Museum but I'd rather skip it and meet at the Bridge Café at 6PM, so put me down just for that.
As for the weather after the heat wave it was rainy and chilly but not much below 60º from what they tell me, since I wasn't here, just nasty, and now it's warm again going on hot, according to the weather wise-men. The first week in September is usually sunny and hot, but who knows what follows? I plan to be at the Museum and at Sarabeth's.
I am in the Museum picture from last trip and I see I am wearing the lightest cotton top over my blouse, so it couldn't have been too cool. And you should know about the roof installation. It's a bamboo tree structure that kept growing the whole summer (being added too). It is not for seniors to climb, and they take 10 people on a tour of it. What I don't know is if the roof itself is open to visitors who don't wish to climb the structure, which is very large. I just got to our website and didn't check on that first. Sorry.
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Great Zulema, I can't wait to see you again!
Eloise, tell me again what time you get in on Wednesday? You are coming direct from the station, I hope by cab?
Here's a 10 day forecast taking us up to September 7, it appears we're to have (cross your fingers) perfect weather, at least on the 7th!! We can keep checking the 10 day forecasts as we get closer: http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USNY0996
Light jackets are something I do not own. I'll look and see tomorrow if there's anything that resembles that here in SC.
I'm afraid my shoes are not going to impress anybody, being orthopedic and well worn on the streets of Europe. 10 days however is not enough to break in more stylish options so pretend you don't know me!
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Ginny, A light sweater or a shawl can be worn instead of a light jacket. They sell the Pashmina shawls on the street for $10.00, and I see many wearing them summer evening.
I do everything in UNstylish shoes, and the fashion police have never arrested me.
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Oh good, well I've got a strange sort of sweater thing I could bring, and it's light, thanks.
Now I have to literally sew up the top I wanted to wear as, upon being continually searched in every airport this summer when I hit flight 5, something snapped and I cut off the new snaps I had had put on it and cut a hole in it (can we see who can't sew?) so I will definitely not be fashionable until I get that fixed. I'm thinking of all the runway models I have seen who go down the runway sewn up and into things so I don't feel so bad.:)
Look at THIS, tho! I got a copy of Reliquary (not for the faint of heart) from Preston and Childs and this is what they say in the back of the book (I think everybody should know this before they read it, tho):
It has been estimated that as many as 5,000 or more homeless people have lived in the vast warren of underground tracks, subway tunnels, coal tunnels, old sewers, abandoned stations and waiting rooms, disused gas rooms and old machine rooms, and other spaces that riddle underground Manhattan. Grand Central Station alone sits above seven stories of tunnels, and in some places the underground works extend more than thirty stories beneath the city. The Astor Tunnels, with their elegant stations crumbling into dust, actually exist...And there are homeless who claim to have seen a fabulous, decaying nineteenth-century waiting room deep under ground, with mirrored and tiled walls, a fountain, a grand piano, and a huge crystal chandelier.[/color]
The authors are indebted to the book The Mole People by Jennifer Toth (1993)....[an] excellent, thought-provoking, and at times frightening study.
Wow!
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Yes I also vote to go early to the Circle Cruise, and then go to lunch, preferably at the Chelsea Market or the Eataly if open. Or wherever anybody wants to go.
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Ginny, I arrive at Penn Station on Wednesday Sept. 8th at 8:35 pm. When I arrive in a city like New York I usually feel very excited, not anxious though, but I can't help but stop to look all around this famous train station and gape. I feel the pulse of the city as people criss cross all over knowing exactly where they are going, but I will have to find out where to take a cab and go straight to the Leo House from there. Thanks for asking.
If you have no other plans, I was thinking that since the Lion King show would probably ends early in the evening, afterwards we could go for dinner at the Marquis revolving restaurant watching the lights over Manhattan. That would culminate my visit to New York City in a spectacular way never to be forgotten.
Joan, I have never been to the CN tower in Toronto because I have hardly ever been there, only twice I think and believe me it is nothing compared with Montreal. Well I was born and raised here you know. About Evensong, I love choir music, but I will miss it :( unless it is somewhere in the free time and Sunday I will be busy all day, I think.
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Eloise - I agree, Montreal is spectacular! I loved my visit there during your "bash" and wish I could get back there some day. I've seen quite a lot of Toronto since one of my daughters lives there.
When you arrive at Penn Station, walk towards the 7th ave. exit because you will find a taxi stand outside it to your right. The traffic on 7th ave. goes one-way downtown which is where you will be heading to the Leo House.
Because the traffic on 8th Ave goes one-way uptown, a taxi that you pick up there has to maneuver around to get downtown! No point in wasting time on the meter!!!
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Joan, I have carefully noted your instruction on where to get a cab, thanks for the help. Street and Avenue numbers instead of names in New York are practical if not romantic.
Me too Pedln, I will bring an extra pair of shoes, sandals I guess. I have decided to bring my small luggage on wheels like yours Joan, 13" X 19" and a tote. I will watch the NY weather forecast before I close up my bag. Should I pack an unbrella or just a plastic raincoat in case it rains? A jacket would be warmer on the cruise, but I guess bulky unless I wear it to travel.
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Eloise, sure we can do that, eat after the Lion King, if you like, it would be fun and is sort of right across the street. That is if you don't mind eating late. The show is 2 hours and 40 minutes long with a 15 minute intermission, so that puts us at 9 pm eating, if it suits you it suits me.
Maybe we have time before hand if we can get near the glass, to have a coke and look down on Times Square in the daylight too in their other lounge.. There are no reservations unless you want to eat upstairs (very pricey) and long lines. Alternatively they open at 4:30 but that's eating in daylight.
Speaking of Times Square there are two exciting happenings while we're there. They are filiming the new Arthur with Helen Mirren all over the city so you MAY stumble on a film crew and the stars while out walking.
In addition there is another "Happening" in NYC on the 12th, our Ellis Island Day, Sunday at 11:30 am in Times Square hosted by Kelsey Grammar, who is on Broadway, it's live free performances from The Addams Family, American Idiot, Billy Elliott, Chicago, Elf, Fela, In the Heights, La Cage aux Folles, The Lion King, Mamma Mia, Memphis, Million Dollar Quartet, Priscilla Queen of the Desert, The Phantom of the Opera, Promises Promises, Rain, Rock of Ages, The Scottsboro Boys, West Side Story and more... This all free on Times Square...expect crowds and roped off streets.
So if you don't plan to attend a Broadway show, Broadway will come to you free during that time.
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Oh I had the MOST exciting thing happen yesterday! The phone rang just as I was about to leave and it was Rebecca, our guide for our tour at the Met on the 10th!
She had been going over the museum, tracking our path and trying to decide what to feature and what not to feature so we'd have the most for our time. She threw out a lot of other cultures, not just western, Japanese, Egyptian, Indian, Sanskrit, this is really going to be fabulous.
She also was told about the audio devices and said (as I've not heard back where we pick them up), that she would take care of that and contact the AV department herself.
She said, and this really impressed me, that she herself will meet us AT the door and take us thru to this Carson meeting room, so everybody coming IN, we definitely need to MEET at the 81st street entrance? At 9:30 sharp when the door opens. She will get there earlier. We will meet at the "81st Street Entrance," that groups normally use. Lucy and Zulema, is this the one on the front, with no steps? And she will take us past the guards, etc. Wow. Talk about VIP treatment!
She also said in the course of the conversation casually that she is giving a Gallery Talk between now and next week, and she would walk the tour areas we chose personally again to see about the logistics of getting to each place.
Listen, those who lead the "Gallery Tours" are out of this world, we really are going to enjoy this one. I am very impressed. Says she loves books and even is plotting out the Medieval for the Latin students' interest, wow.
Wow wow wow.
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Oh! Ginny looking down on Times Square in the evening will be soooo nice. Even Paris would pale in comparison because I Never have the opportunity to go out at night when I travel alone except in Montreal. Wouldn't we also have the chance to stumble on the likes of famous stars when we push our way through the crown to get into the theatre? Oh! well I won't mind that a bit, I'll be with you. I can skip eating in pricey upstairs restaurant for all that I eat.
Our Met visit promises to be so exciting and I am so looking forward to it.
I will never see the labyrinths in underground New York City, I'll be long enough underground. There are so many wonders above ground that I have yet to see.
My children are expecting to see a lot of photos, I will have to take my not-so-good camera.
Only 8 days to go, are you getting excited? I am.
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The meeting room, which I didn't know was named Carson, is on the ground floor just past the elevators at the 81st St. entrance, which is the one without steps. It's the handicapped and group entrance. My only problem will be getting there at 9:30.
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I can imagine! We don't start till 9:45, hope you can be there!
Of course I have the King o Blisters now on my left foot, who knew, so watch for the woman with the Limp. I just saw the George Clooney new movie The American and expect to be shot at every corner, have you all seen that thing (don't)? For some reason you can't get it out of your mind.
What Last Minute Stuff do we need to take care of?
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We had a delightful visit with our young but long time friends in W.VA. What a gorgeous state! They live in the mountains on 450 acres of land in a rustic and huge home which they had built 15 yrs ago. What a treat to see them again. Its been 3 yrs. They are the town drs in Hillsboro which is only about 20 or more miles from Green Briar and White Sulphur Springs. I want to rent their surround porch. Once can follow the sun or avoid the sun somewhere on that porch all day into the starry night later. And the stars are just breathtaking. Lovely! We came home with fresh dug potatoes and newly canned green beans. Add onions and some ham to that and we had a meal. Plus fresh tomatoes w/ cottage cheese. Hmmmmmm!
OKAY, we seem to be just perking along. Gosh, love having all this info on where and when to go. Have we established a time for leaving the Leo to get to our 10am cruise??? Are we taxiing or busing or subwaying??
Boy, what a disappointment that the weather is going to be so warm. I don't do well in the heat especially running for busses and subways. And I notice that on our NYC weather link, up above, that their is much not so friendly air. Another problem for me since I have COPD. I really prefer cooler temps but will try to change my clothing plans since I had planned one using lightweight jackets and a lightweight raincoat. Looks like the jackets will cook me. And, now I must also consider capris or something in that length so I won't roast.
Mary and I will be in on Tuesday at 1:30pm so should be at the Leo by 3:30pm.
I had a brief talk with the exhibits director at the Fraunces Museum and she said that she thought getting there by 3:30pm would gives us enough time to see it all. Can a techie please put that up in the our calendar for Wednesday Sept 8th??? Thanks!!
Also, we should remember that our time at Sarabeth's begins at 4pm on Saturday Sept 11th and they like for us to be on time. Techies, this should also be up on calendar. We are limo-ing to the restaurant. So, as that is so, I would like to be there about 15 minutes early since we should meet our authors before they go in??? Is this a possibility, Ginny??? and is it necessary?? Please let me know!
For those who are attending "Million Dollar Quartet" on Friday evening, should we plan on meeting at the theatre or should we leave the Leo together and plan on supper somewhere?
The Met tour looks like something we will never forget. Great planning Ginny!!
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Crime-inn-eee Ann. You go for a visit to rest and enjoy your friends now you return with orders! Poor techies and they are working so hard to please :o.
Am I signed up for that cruise? I want to go but do not remember if I signed up or not. I want to do it all, except Lion King.
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I would like to have the exact address of Sarabeth's. There are 2 restaurants near Central Park, so we need to be sure we get to the right one.
Another question: What time does the Leo begin serving breakfast? I am planning to eat breakfast there before we leave for the cruise Thursday, Sept. 9. I have to plan my time carefully because I have rather a long trip on the A train from here. Also how do you plan to get to the pier? We should be at the ticket booth by 9:30 at the latest.
Predicted Temperature next Wednesday: 86.
We are having another heat wave now but it will be interrupted by the hurricane.
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Lucy, if I remember correctly, they begin serving at 7 or 7:30.
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Poor Ginny with a foot blister. I just had good results for that with a 15 min salt water soak and a bandage with honey until it healed. Honey is a natural antiseptic, besides it stopped hurting immediately.
It's a good idea to put in the heading a time to leave the hotel for different activities and by what means we plan get there. We should be ready to leave the Leo for the cruise at 8:30 am to get in line at the Pier, is that right Lucy?
Good idea Lucy to get the Sarabeth's address because we will all be dispersed before going there.
I will arrive at the hotel on Wednesday around 9:00 pm and will come down for breakfast on Thursday at 7:30 am to find out the final arrangements.
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Thank you Eloise, it needs something.
Thank you Andrea on the time the Leo begins breakfast. Apparently, Lucy, it is their policy that you be met in the Lobby and sign in as a guest so I will meet you in the lobby. Do you know what time you plan to arrive?
Let's try to be at the ticket booth at 9:30 for the Circle Cruise. Are we taking a taxi? How long will it take us to get there, realistically?
Lucy that's a good question, the address of the Sarabeth's we're going to is:
40 Central Park South
New York, N.Y. 10019
Phone 212 826 5959 Fax 212 826 0140
I'll put that in the heading.
Ann, we can get there a little before 4, but our plans as hopefully you received the cc on show for Maryann to begin speaking at 4:15, allowing 15 minutes to be seated, the authors introduced, etc. Do you think that's not enough time?
Ok Ann, I can try to get this: I had a brief talk with the exhibits director at the Fraunces Museum and she said that she thought getting there by 3:30pm would gives us enough time to see it all. Can a techie please put that up in the our calendar for Wednesday Sept 8th??? Thanks!!
in the calendar, but the "calendar" in the heading is not an expandible calendar but a screen shot and it's already at the boundaries as you can see by how it's cut. I'll give it my best and if it will not fit on the screen then I'll put that info that 3:30 will be the desired time to see the Museum. What is in it?
Also, we should remember that our time at Sarabeth's begins at 4pm on Saturday Sept 11th and they like for us to be on time. Techies, this should also be up on calendar. We are limo-ing to the restaurant. So, as that is so, I would like to be there about 15 minutes early since we should meet our authors before they go in??? Is this a possibility, Ginny??? and is it necessary?? Please let me know
I guess I thought we'd do the sort of meet and greet we did with Hoving, in the dining room, seat the authors and ourselves and introduce the authors in the first 15 minutes. No? I can't see doing that in a lobby or anteroom, whatever you would like we can do here? Just say so I can tell the limo people a firm date needed for arrival?
So our first order of business is getting to the Circle Line for the cruise, Lucy how long will it take us, say we went by cab, to get there?
Things are getting exciting, huh?
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Sorry :( I can't change the calendar. If people show up at 3 instead of 3:30 for Fraunces, then they, I guess, will get an extra half hour of viewing, we can decide here who will be coming later and we DO need to decide definitely what's wanted about Sarabeth's because of the limo? Eloise can be sure everybody knows the times for the events following the first dinner and Fraunces, so be sure to see Eloise or email her or watch here for possible changes.
I don't mind getting to Sarabeth's early but I don't want to mill about in the ante room/ lobby/ cashier's desk area either, can you find out when we can actually enter the room, and have it private, Ann, since they want us to be on time? Then we will know, and we can spread the word to all, including the authors, before Saturday the 11th.
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If you don't mind Ginny I can work on a calendar with days, times, transport for each day but instead of putting it in the heading, I can post it. There is only 6 days left, not much time and we can make adjustments till it's time to go.
I'll start that now and come back later with the first schedule.
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SOIRÉE IN NEW YORK CITY
Wednesday September 8th,
Fraunces Tavern Museum arrival = 3 :00 pm
Dinner at Bridge Café = 6:00 pm
(address of Bridge Café?)
Thursday September 9th,
Hudson Cruise around Manhattan = 9:30 am
(Time to leave the Leo House to be determined)
Afternoon Free
Friday, September 10th
Transport to the Met by Limousine = ?
Metropolitan Museum of Art = 9:45 am
Lunch in the Atrium = noon
Charriot and Cubiculum = 1:00 pm
Afternoon free
Million Dollar Quartet = 8:00 pm
Saturday September 11th
Morning and Lunch Free
Tea at Sarabeth, (address below) = 4:00 – 6:00 pm
Evening Free
Sunday September 12th
Breakfast with Andrea = 8 or 9 am
Ellis Island by taxi
Lunch and free time
Lion King = 6:30 pm
Monday September 13th
Departure
Sarabeth’s address
40 Central Park South
New York, N.Y. 10019
Phone 212 826 5959 Fax 212 826 0140
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This is the original draft, please point out things I have missed and I will correct or add to it and post a new one. We can do this each day until it's time to leave. I hope this schedule will help.
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Well heck, Eloise, that's beautiful. I love it, it's clear and understandable. Thank you!!
If the heading were not already so long we could put it there also.
Ok on this:
Friday, September 10th
Transport to the Met by Limousine = I don't know the time yet as we are changing the arrival, once I know from the restaurant when we can actually get IN the room and from the limo people when we need to leave I'll say so, I like the idea of repeating this daily.
Metropolitan Museum of Art = 9:45 am 9:30 am, when it opens, sharp.
Lunch in the Atrium = noon 11:30 when IT opens.
Charriot and Cubiculum = 1:00 pm After lunch when everybody who wants to go is ready.
Afternoon free
Million Dollar Quartet = 8:00 pm
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September 8-12, 2010
Everyone is invited!
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Autumn in New York, (are you singing?) What could be finer?
Based on the resounding success of our 10th Anniversary Gathering in NYC in 2008, we thought we'd try it again!~
Our Hotel: The Leo House: "The Little Heart in the Big City," with the best rates you'll find anywhere.
Hotel Information and Rates (http://www.seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/leohouse.html)
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Garden at the Leo House
If you are a Latin student, come meet some of your classmates, for a fun filled day or weekend:
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Classics Students at the Met, NYC 2008
Brief Schedule Outline
See below for details and plan to join us:
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Sept 8th-Wednesday: --Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM) for details. Ann plans for us to meet at the Fraunces Tavern Museum at 3:30 pm. When the museum closes at 5pm, we'll walk to the Bridge Cafe, also historic, for dinner. Our reservation is for 6 pm. Fraunces Tavern is where George Washington and his generals met after or during the Revolution. The Bridge Cafe (http://bridgecafenyc.com/New_York_Restaurant_cafe_Tavern/the-menu/)
Thursday 9/9: --LucyLibr--plans a cruise on the Hudson. Contact: Lucy (Lucylibr@aol.com) for details.
Friday 9/10
Morning at the Met:
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9:30: Note new time! Join us for a private tour of the Met with Assisted Listening Devices on the topic (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/Graphics/illuminatedma140.jpg) The History of Book Binding, Books, Illuminated Manuscripts and Related Works. Free to SeniorLearn, only 4 slots remaining!
---Followed by Lunch in the Atrium Cafe under the glass.
---Followed by a short seque open to all to see the Cubiculum of Villa of P. Fannius Synistor, and the Monteleone Chariot! See email.
---After Lunch: Free Afternoon at Leisure
Saturday 9/11: Our First Author's Tea at the award winning
Sarabeth's,
40 Central Park South
New York, N.Y. 10019
Phone 212 826 5959 Fax 212 826 0140
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Sunday 9/12
Alf is planning a Surprise Venue for Breakfast! Contact: Andrea (WFlannery@cfl.rr.com) for details.
Those wanting to go to Ellis Island will convene in the Lobby of the Leo. As an alternative, Ann plans a trip to the Tenement Museum. OR just do your own thing! Contact: ginny (gvinesc@gmail.com) for details.
Other Enticements:
Pedl'n plans a day at the newest NYC park, the High Line. http://www.thehighline.org/ (http://www.thehighline.org/) Contact: Pedln (ann.bartlett@att.net) for details.
Eloise will be our Coordinator daily at Breakfast at the Leo House. She will be at the cafeteria for an hour to take messages and keep everybody informed on what is happening on that day.
Additional Possibilities:
The short terms, unscheduled -- High Line Park, with maybe a visit to Chelsea Market nearby, Union Square, The Strand, Chelsea Market, shopping, Tenement House and Museum, Botanical Gardens, Etaly if open, a Broadway Show, Algonquin or Chelsea Hotels, concerts, opera, bus tour of NYC, etc.
Monday 9/13: : Travel Day: Departure
New!!
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9/11: Our First Ever Author Tea at
Sarabeth's,
40 Central Park South
New York, N.Y. 10019
Phone 212 826 5959 Fax 212 826 0140
on Central Park between 5th and 6th Avenue: This is our room! (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/Sarabethsskylightroom.jpg)
Join us on September 11 in this award winning restaurant looking out on the Park for one of their famous Teas, at less than half price, $10 only, no tax, and enjoy meeting our authors, Bruce Frankel, and Maryann McFadden:
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"I can think of no writer I'd rather have sing me songs of the sea, even sad ones, than Maryann McFadden."---Anne Rivers Siddons
We'll be discussing Maryann McFadden's book, here on SeniorLearn beginning August 15 - at
"So Happy Together" (http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=1506.0) Join us today!
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Bruce Frankel’s book, "What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life" is inspirational! "This upbeat, inspiring, timely book shows how taking a risk and fighting to find a passionate career — at any age — can reinvigorate your life...”— Susan Shapiro
Come join Bruce now - and be inspired!
Talking Heads ~ "What Should I Do With the Rest of My Life" (http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=1572.0)
Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM) today to secure your place at the table! We have only a few seats left!~ Don't miss this one!!
See information about reservations at the LEO HOUSE (http://www.seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/leohouse.html). Deadline to reserve your accommodations is June 15!
Questions about the gathering? Contact: Ann (ADOANNIE35@YAHOO.COM)
As a New Yorker would say, "What's not to like?"
Join us if you can, you'll never forget it!
Sign in here and help us plan what you want to see and do!
Transportation:
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"For a map go to MTA NYC Transit and look at the subway system map. It gives you an idea of how the city is laid out, east and west on either side of the Hudson. You are staying on west side which is where the cruise port and Times Square are. I use Mapquest for specific locations like the Tenement Museum the other night." (Lucy)
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Ann, I forgot about your question, sorry:
For those who are attending "Million Dollar Quartet" on Friday evening, should we plan on meeting at the theatre or should we leave the Leo together and plan on supper somewhere?
I vote for the Marquis pre theater dinner but will go anywhere, let's eat first? There are tons of places to eat, we could just meet there if we could decide on one, including that Italian restaurant up the street from the Leo, but who knows if they are open early? We want to be at the Theater at 7:30 other than that we can eat. I vote to eat first.
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Just asking, because I have to let Judy and Liz know --
we'll be at the Sarabeth's at 40 Central Park South (between 5th and 6th Aves, near 59th st.)?
and not at the Sarabeth's at Madison Ave. and 92nd St.?
The reason I ask is because someone said that Sarabeth's doesn't serve dinner on Saturday nights, so it doesn't matter if we stay after 6 pm. But Sarabeth's web site shows that they serve dinner on Sat. night.
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Let's say, Ginny, et al., I will plan to arrive at the Leo at 7:30 a.m. I will wait till someone comes down and signs me in. I may or may not have a friend with me. But we can review all plans the night before after dinner at the Bridge Cafe.
I am still suggesting that after the cruise we go to the Chelsea Market for lunch and then take a look at the High Line. You will then be near the Leo House. It's $45 for 10 people in a limo. I could go and take others with me by bus and subway--more exciting!
MY phone numbers in case anyone would like to call on the chance I might be able to answer questions:
HOME: 347-230-4776
CELL: 609-709-8849
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The address on the Contract says
Sarabeth's
40 Central Park South
New York, N.Y. 10019
Phone 212 826 5959 Fax 212 826 0140
However that's a good question. There are a lot of Sarabeth's, apparently. Let's wait till Ann gives the definitive answer, people seem to assume when they say Central Park South where it is, that's an excellent question.
In 2008 the "contract" with the Ritz was with the hotel business headquarters in Atlanta!
I hope it's the one on 40 Central Park South between 5th and 6th because it's a gorgeous venue, Ann has done us proud! But if it's not, I'm sure the other will be just as fine.
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Lucy, OK 7:30 it is and we can check and see if your friend comes if he/ she will need another sponsor or what.
7:30!! You'll be leaving home at 4 am then? We appreciate all you have also done for us!
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I am still suggesting that after the cruise we go to the Chelsea Market for lunch and then take a look at the High Line. You will then be near the Leo House. It's $45 for 10 people in a limo. I could go and take others with me by bus and subway--more exciting!
I love the idea of the Chelsea Market for lunch, 4. 50 each for a limo sounds cheaper than a bus and subway, but then you'd miss the excitement. hahaha
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Looks to me like the weather cross your fingers is going to be great!
Thursday, upper 70's and sunny for our Circle Cruise, what more can you ask?
Perfect!
Autumn in New York.....Beautiful piano arrangement to get us in the mood! (http://rosemck1.tripod.com/autumn-in-new-york-1.mid)
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I have made the changes on the schedule in Word on my computer and will post it tomorrow afternoon.
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Eloise,
Please change the time for the Fraunces Tavern Museum to 3:30pm
Bridge Cafe:
279 Water Street
New York, NY 10038-1798
(212) 227-3344
Ginny,
I believe that if we just arrive on time, go to our private room, we can greet our guests there.
Lucy,
You can arrive with or w/o friend, and someone, (Ginny?) will meet you in the lobby and escort you to the breakfast room.
Did I understand that you will be at the Fraunces Museum on Wednesday at 3:30pm?
Pedl'n,
Sarabeth's is the one at 40 Central Park South.
Now, I have typed this info in 4 times and lost it. This is my last try as this computer is getting on my last nerve!
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Ann,
Please change the time for the Fraunces Tavern Museum to 3:30pm
OK Done.
Sarabeth's address changed.
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Ann, thank you for those clarifications.
Sarabeth's address:
279 Water Street
New York, NY 10038-1798
(212) 227-3344
I think 279 Water Street is the address of the Bridge Cafe?
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Yes Ginny, I checked it too.
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Ok, so I finAlly made a mistake---hahaha! It's in your hands for changing!
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hahaa, you've done a super job with all this.
Is it this Sarabeth's? (which is in the heading):
40 Central Park South
New York, N.Y. 10019
Phone 212 826 5959 Fax 212 826 0140
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Yes that's it!
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These are the posts that got me wondering which Sarabeth's; color me worry-wort. I just want Liz and Judy to show up in the right place.
Actually Saturday we have Sarabeth's ONLY until 6, they then begin the dinner trade, so we will have to leave, so we'll have to sandwich in our two authors, a group picture and a tea in those two hours.
Ginny, post 287
We are the last diners in Sarabeth's because they have a Saturday Brunch which usually means they aren't going to be very busy after 4pm except with people like us. They do not offer dinner on Sat. night according to Michelle.
Ann, post 288
The Sarabeth's website says Tea, 4 --5;
Ok, good, are you saying then that we CAN linger on beyond 6? This is not what I understood. Can you find out? Long enough to take a group photo? I remember the Armory had something of the sort too, and we ran over and they actually began taking out the tables and the piano, so let's be clear on when we have to leave?
Ginny, post 289
There are three in Central Park area -- all their websites show them as open for dinner Sat. nite.
40 Central Park South
423 Amsterdam Ave (CP West, 80th St.)
1295 Madison Ave (CP East, 92nd St.)
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Lucy, I think after the cruise is a good time for Chelsea Market and the High Line Park.
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Yes, I plan to be at the Fraunces if not at 3:30 soon after to go with you to the Bridge Cafe. If this changes, I will let you know.
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Gosh it looks like Hurricane Earl is honing right in on Lucy and New York City, I hope all of you New Yorkers will be safe!
Sure glad we aren't going today! Makes our projected high 70's and sun look pretty good, huh? Cross your fingers on the weather next Wednesday!
Lucy we so appreciate your offers of escort assistance, and your help and Zulema's with the directions! Be SAFE there. I think Lucy is right on the coast.
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New York Soirée Calendar
Wednesday September 8th,
Fraunces Tavern Museum arrival = 3 :30 pm
Dinner at Bridge Café = 6:00 pm
Thursday September 9th,
Hudson Cruise around Manhattan = 9:30 am
Time to leave from the Leo House = ?
Chelsea Market = Lunch
High Line
Friday, September 10th
Transport to the Met by Limousine = ?
Metropolitan Museum of Art = 9:45 am
Lunch in the Attrium = ?
Charriot and Cubiculum = 1:00 pm
Afternoon free
Million Dollar Quartet = 8:00 pm
Saturday September 11th
Morning and Lunch Free
Tea at Sarabeth, (address below) = 4:00 – 6:00 pm
Evening Free
Sunday September 12th
Breakfast with Andrea = 8 or 9 am
Ellis Island by taxi
Lunch and free time
Lion King = 6:30 pm
Monday September 13th
Departure
Sarabeth’s address
40 Central Park South
New York, N.Y. 10019
Phone 212 826 5959
Fax 212 826 0140
Lucy’s phone number
Home 347-230-4776 – Cell 609-709-8849
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Eloise, thank you so much for that calendar. I can not live without a calendar and schedules in front of my face. It is much appreciated.
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Yes I agree and I'm going to print it out and take it with, it's very well done! Thank you Eloise!
Looks like we've got a great programme with time off for getting to know each other, looks fabulous to me, thanks to all of you!
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If anyone does not want to go to Ellis Island Sunday, that is the day of the Brooklyn Book Festival, a HUGE event, very conveniently located at Borough Hall in Brooklyn near the #2 train, much of it outdoors, featuring famous authors. It is difficult to get into the events because they are so crowded, but there are free readings and music outside for one and all. www.brooklynbookfestival.org
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Oh WOW!! Depending on the weather do you Ellis Islanders want to put off Ellis Island for another year (this is what happens to me EVERY time I plan to go but WOW!) and plan to go to Brooklyn? We've (I hope) got Lucy to get us to Brooklyn and that really IS Books.
Let's make a list of the Ellis Islander Trekkers versus the Brooklyn Book Festival Goers: a lot will depend on the weather, oh WOW!
OR we can decide when we're there and you can consult Eloise that morning, Sunday morning, wow.
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I will go wherever you all want to go and I will enjoy myself, I am sure. I have never been to Brooklyn and if Lucy is willing to lead us there, great.
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AND just to make it triply tempting, don't forget the 12th is also the Broadway on Broadway with Kelsey Grammer at 11:30!
Five-time Emmy winner Kelsey Grammer, who is currently starring in the Tony-winning revival of La Cage aux Folles, will host the 19th annual free Broadway on Broadway concert Sept. 12 in Times Square.
"It is an honor to be hosting this year's Broadway on Broadway," stated Kelsey Grammer. "I love being a part of the Broadway community and I look forward to showing the Broadway fans from New York and around the world just what we have to offer. The best of times is now!"
The Broadway League and the Times Square Alliance produce the annual event that will showcase musicals from the 2010-2011 season. The concert will feature appearances and/or performances by artists from The Addams Family, American Idiot, Billy Elliot The Musical, Chicago, Elf, Fela!, In the Heights, La Cage Aux Folles, The Lion King, Mamma Mia!, Memphis, Million Dollar Quartet, Priscilla Queen of the Desert, The Phantom of the Opera, Promises, Promises, Rain: A Tribute to the Beatles on Broadway, Rock of Ages, The Scottsboro Boys, West Side Story and more.
The 11:30 AM concert will also boast a 30-piece orchestra, which will accompany the represented musicals.
HUE Leggings and Continental Airlines present the concert that is sponsored by AT&T and The New York Times.
Visit BroadwayonBroadway.
So!! We have THREE venues to choose from on Sunday! It's as if NYC is pulling out all the stops for us, what fireworks!
The WEATHER will be a prime concern. I am not sure I know many of these authors, either:
SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 10:00 A.M. – 6 P.M .
LIST OF FESTIVAL AUTHORS
BROOKLYN BOOK FESTIVAL 2010 AUTHORS
Nick Abadzis
Charlotte Abbott
Jessica Abel
Susan Abulhawa
Peter Akinti
Steve Almond
Steven Amsterdam
Lemon Andersen
Kurt Andersen
Sam Anderson
John Ashbery
Jabari Asim
Paul Auster
Russell Banks
Judi Barrett
Sandra Rodriguez Barron
Francis S. Barry
Jennifer Baumgardner
Moustafa Bayoumi
Colin Beavan
Jennifer Belle
Susan Bernofsky
Robert Berry
Jen Bervin
Amy Besa
Milosz Biedrzycki
Betsy Bird
Rich Blomquist
Alafair Burke
Julie Burstein
Rosanne Cash
Frank Castronovo
Lan Samantha Chang
Henry Chang
Tina Chang
Dan Charnas
Farai Chideya
Kate Christensen
Josh Clover
Ta-Nehisi Coates
Gabriel Cohen
Michael Connelly
T Cooper
Greg Cowles
Sloane Crosley
Siddhartha Deb
Tishani Doshi
Mark Doty
Jancee Dunn
Jennifer Egan
Jake Ehrenreich
Stephen Elliott
Karen Emmerich
Andrew Ervin
Martin Espada
Bill Evans
Frank Falcinelli
Dan Feldman
Caryl Ferey
Monica Ferrell
Sean Ferrell
Jordan Flaherty
Laura Flanders
Nick Flynn
Mary Gaitskill
Ramin Ganeshram
Cristina Garcia
Feryal Ali Gauhar
Nelson George
Jennifer Gilmore
Aracelis Girmay
Myla Goldberg
Amy Goodman
Roberta Gratz
Karen Green
Ben Greenman
Lauren Grodstein
Jessica Hagedorn
Pete Hamill
Gabrielle Hamilton
James Hannaham
Paul Harding
Kathryn Harrison
Adam Haslett
Michael Hastings
Terrance Hayes
Peter Hedges
Will Hermes
Kristin Hersh
Donna Hill
John Hodgman
Paul Holdengraber
Jenny Hollowell
Brigid Hughes
Siri Hustvedt
Marlon James
N.K.Jemisin
Marilyn Johnson
Kaylie Jones
Ben Katchor
Piper Kerman
Naomi Klein
Paul Krugman
Francis Lam
Anna Lappe
ReifLarsen
Dorothea Lasky
Chang-rae Lee
Ted Lee
Dennis Lehane
Will Leitch
Martin Lemelman
Ada Limon
Tan Lin
Sam Lipsyte
Phillip Lopate
Karen Lord
Sarah MacLean
Matt Madden
Jeff Madrick
Sara Marcus
Bill Martin
Dorota Maslowska
Nancy Mauro
Bernice L. McFadden
Maureen N. McLane
Tim McLoughlin
Maaza Mengiste
Steven Millhauser
Greg Milner
John Murillo
Sara Nelson
Arthur Nersesian
Josh Neufeld
Elizabeth Nunez
Sigrid Nunez
Mendi Lewis Obadike
Stewart O'Nan
Meghan O’Rourke
Miyun Park
Benjamin Percy
Per Petterson
Jayne Anne Phillips
Ivy Pochoda
Neal Pollack
Katha Pollitt
Francine Prose
Sofia Quintero
David Rakoff
Joanna Smith Rakoff
David Rees
Melanie Rehak
Paul Reyes
Charles Rice-Gonzalez
Rahna Reiko Rizzuto
Heather Rogers
Nir Rosen
Salman Rushdie
Esmeralda Santiago
Rakesh Satyal
Hirsh Sawhney
Jeremy Scahill
Kristen Schaal
Caedra Scott-Flaherty
Jonathan Segura
Daniel Serrano
Matthew Sharpe
Rob Sheffield
Gary Shteyngart
Sarah Silverman
Robert Silvers
Helen Simonson
Mona Simpson
Scott Simpson
Brando Skyhorse
Esther K. Smith
Tracy K. Smith
Jonathan Soffer
Martha Southgate
Scott Spencer
Declan Spring
Peter Straub
Darin Strauss
Elizabeth Streb
Terese Svoboda
Stefanie Syman
Paco Ignacio Taibo II
Jillian Tamaki
Leora Tanenbaum
Greg Tate
Marina Temkina
Rebecca Traister
Monique Truong
David L. Ulin
Luis Alberto Urrea
Jean Valentine
Simon Van Booy
Melvin Van Peebles
Lara Vapnyar
Elijah Wald
Jess Walter
Teddy Wayne
Katharine Weber
Michael Weinreb
Robin Wells
Rachel Wharton
Tracy White
Colson Whitehead
Thomas Chatterton Williams
Venus Williams
Tanya Wright
Elizabeth Wurtzel
Xiaoda Xiao
Tiphanie Yanique
Matvei Yankelevich
John Yau
Alia Yunis
David Zirin
Sharon Zukin
CHILDREN AND TEENS
Mac Barnett
Judi Barrett
Artie Bennett
Vanessa Brantley Newton
Mike Cavallaro
Nina Crews
Shane W. Evans
Brian Floca
Aimee Friedman
Charles Fuller
Adele Griffin
Jenny Han
Isabel Hill
Tad Hills
Michelle Knudsen
Nancy Krulik
E. Lockhart
Torrey Maldonado
Kate Milford
Kirsten Miller
Lauren Oliver
Mitali Perkins
Chris Raschka
Matthew Reinhart
Michael Rex
Olugbemisola Rhuday-Perkovich
Sergio Ruzzier
John Rocco
Jon Scieszka
Sara Shepard
Rebecca Stead
Francisco X. Stork
Tiger Beat
Laura Toffler-Corrie
Anjali Wason
Jacqueline Woodson
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As I ponder doing Brooklyn's huge and crowded book festival, it makes me wonder if we wouldn't be ready for some quiet time, maybe joining JoanR at the church concert. Makes my legs hurt just thinking of tackling a huge book festival at the end of our time together. I would even enjoy any park offerings. And they have a plethora of museums around Central Park. Like the Morgan Library or the Gugenheim. We could do that and then meet JoanR for evensong at St. Thomas. Sort of a coming together one last time before we all depart on Monday. I am getting too syrupy, aren't I. I am a very sentimental being, I guess.
In 1998, the last thing that Mary and I did on the ending Sunday of our visit with the SN'ers, was take a ride in a carriage around the Christmas decorated area of uptown and we ended it with a visit to St Patrick's Cathedral which had up the Nativity scene plus other decorations. Seemed as though all of the visitors to NYC were making a visit there that evening. When we returned to the Leo, we visited the living room upstairs and watched one of the sisters put up their Nativity scene. She told us some history of the Leo.
Ginny,
I am open to the Italian restaurant near the Leo before we go uptown to the musical. I liked that place last time we were there. Good food and reasonably priced. Shall we share a cab or brave the subway?
Eloise,
Thanks for the calendar. I have papers printed out for everyday starting with our flights to NYC on Tuesday. Maps and all kinds of unnecessary papers. I also have my trusty plastic map of Manhattan which Mary and I used shamelessly last time. Kept us on the right path most of the time. I am thinking that just printing out your calendar would be the easier thing to do.
What I see here is lots of time for just wandering around in such places as Chelsea or Central Park or Greenwich Village or Union Square. Mary and I may be meeting with my DIL's brother again. We ate at the Boat House in 2008 so maybe something else around the park or in Wall Street will be suggested. He lives near the park but works down in Wall Street.
My cardiologist recommended that we try Serendipity which is near the park.
Serendipity is small and its big claim to fame is Frozen Hot Chocolate. Hmmm, good. He took his daughters plus their German exchange student to see NYC last week. They had a great time. One other thing he said was that the subways were really hot while they were there. I am all for sharing cabs and limos to prevent over walking and over heating.
I will check with Michelle from Sarabeth's tomorrow or on Monday about our concerns.
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WOW!!!!!! I nearly fell off my chair! Book Festival! One I've always wanted to go to but alone to Bklyn is daunting. I'm with Ginny and will put off Ellis Island - everything depending on weather. of course.
Did you see who's going to be there? Pete Hamill. Salman Rushdie. John Ashbery. Chang-rae Lee and on and on.
It might just be possible to get back to Manhattan in time for 5:00 Evensong at St. Thomas.
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We hope the temperatures will be in the 70's and no higher than 80 next week in NYC. The subways are air-conditioned, rarely there's a car that isn't, but the stations are very hot, some more than others. And for those worried about going to Brooklyn, the Book Fair is right at Borough Hall; depending on the subway line, it's the first or second subway stop in Brooklyn from Manhattan.
I think 2 hours is sufficient time for the tea and meeting with the authors, but that's just my opinion.
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Whoa! I just checked the St. Thomas web site, and they have a guided tour at 12:30 and Evensong at 4:00 p.m. No organ recitals listed at this time for this month. They were a staple for years, and I don't know why they have ceased.
Whenever you think of a free public events in NYC, think of crowds and at the Broadway program standing and not being able to see. People may have camped out all night to get a viewing place, and you may be a long distance from the stage.
Same with Brooklyn Book Festival. You will not see Pete Hamill or Salmon Rushdie unless you are there very early and stand in a long line to get a ticket, all of which may be gone before you get through the line. It's not geographically so large, but you may have to go to different venues for the programs. Last year I just sat outside and heard some music and poetry and looked at all the book sellers booths.
The trip from Brooklyn to St. Thomas by subway is rather difficult because you have to change subway lines on a Sunday when there are often service changes.
This is making Ellis Island sound better all the time.
Yes, the subway stations are very HOT, but most of the trains are cool.
There is a nice zoo in Central Park. Don't forget MOMA and the Museum of Natural History.
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Well whom ever goes where, just let me know. I would love to tackle BOTH Broadway in Times Square AND the Brooklynn book Festival. If I can't do both, I opt for Kelsey Grammer. Crowds do not bother me and I want to see it all, do it all and then I will rest after I leave the city. Anne, you are getting to be a reall sissy! ::) I can't imagine you sitting still for too long.
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Lucy I had the chance of looking in Google map exactly where Brooklyn was, imagine that not knowing, but I didn't and it's way way out of Manhattan and going there by subway is what makes me hesitate because I am in subways here and I don't particularly love it for a long stretch. But I will see later on what others are doing.
But isn't it fun to be able to think of all the places we could visit? It would give me a thrill just go window shopping down 5th avenue or any avenue for that matter. Also I could sit down in a café and watch people go by. I loved the Central Park zoo when I was there with my little gr-kids but I am not anxious rush anywhere.
When we meet for breakfast we can still decide about what we want to do.
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Ok Italian it is, unless Andrea has another idea, we'll work that out before our trip to see Million Dollar Quartet, good idea, Ann, we better find out if that restaurant opens that early, in Italy you don't eat before 9 or so, but this is NYC!! We'll need to leave the restaurant at 7 to get to the theater by 7:30, and the cabbies won't want to go to Times Square, so we may want a subway over.
Weather in the 70's is absolutely to die for, thank you Zulema, I will need a coat, it's been so hot here (just kidding). What a summer. Glad to see you New Yorkers here.
Ii also want some shopping. I want at least to go IN Bloomies or at least Saks.
I like the idea of a last day in which everybody does something memorable to them and makes the trip perfect. And no, Ann you're not syrupy, I thought that was sweet. Isn't this coming together just beautifully?
At this point I'm undecided on Sunday: so many choices, the Book Festival, the Times Square Broadway thing, (crowds, heat, pushing. I once saw the St. Patrick's Parade and the crowds were so dense (and not particularly fun) that we couldn't even get to our reserved seats on the bleachers, but I remember the excitement... and I like being in the middle of an event. Any event. Lucy mentions trying to see anybody at the Book Festival. There's no way on earth that I am going to camp out ahead of time, even for Salman Rushdie, I'm sure the crowds will be intense, but note it's only two subway stops, thank you Zulema.
I hate to say it, the "I want it all" girl here is veering back to Ellis Island, but I want to make that decision a bit later on. I like the freedom of choosing what I might like. If anybody wants Ellis Island, I'm there.
Eloise and I are going to the Lion King and a revolving dinner looking at the lights of Broadway for our last night, Sunday night, so our last moments are set. But that's from 6:30 on.
Oh too bad, Lucy, on the organ concerts, maybe they are in hiatus, it sure was impressive when Lucy and I went the last time. You do tend to remember the small quiet things like that. But I think there are others, isn't there a church down toward the financial district, an old historic church that does them Sundays?
I also have a map of Manhattan, a plastic fold out and one of the subways and busses too, I'll bring them if anybody wants a gander. Would anybody like a copy? I can print them on the printer here and you can fold it in your purse?
I agree with Andrea that I'm going to print out Eloise's schedule, can you put all three choices for Sunday on it, Eloise? We can decide Sunday morning, depending on the weather, where we each want to go, we will have somebody to go with too, I am sure, let's find out!
Boy this is exciting! New York City, here we come!! My grandbaby wants a BIG fire engine brought back so I may need to go back to FAO Schwarz, assuming I can't find one closer to home. I had a lovely time in front of it with the fountains etc., with Pedln last time.
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OK I've got Brooklyn Book Festival, Broadway on Broadway and St. Thomas Evenson in for Sunday.
Yes, shopping too. I need a little something for my gr-daughter 19 and gr-son 17.
Ginny, I would definitely need a bus map that I can print out, I might use it on my very first day, who knows.
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Okay, Zulema expects 70's and 80's next week and its down from 87 to 60 here over night. I have mentally changed out my wardrobe for NYC several times. I think I won't pack until Tuesday morning and check again with either Zulema or our weatherunderground.com link. I have had my head almost shaved due to the heat and its not a pretty sight but cooler. Now, I may need earmuffs or a furry hat in NYC. Naaaaah, I love to exaggerate. :-\
Lucy or JoanR,
Is Evensong at 4pm a good choice w/o the organ concert?
Oh, go to Saks, Ginny. Its a great place to shop. Am I repeating myself when I tell the family story about Saks??? Oh well, here it is. My great grandfather, William Morrow, was a horse cab driver in NYC and he met, fell in love with and married a lovely young lady who stood to inherit the land that Saks 5th Ave sits on today. Oh, we could have been members of the hoity-toity! Hahaha! Unfortuneately, her family disinherited her and she died in childbirth with their 3rd child. I have a great uncle who spent years trying to prove that the Morrows should own that land. He was single and didn't have enough to do. Ill most of his long life, he became a nut on the subject. When Mary and I stood in front of Saks in '98, we both touched the granite of the store and did a little dreaming. Ain't life grand when you are havin' fun!!
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Anne, maybe we can go to Saks if we have time.
Seeing we are getting closer to the Soirée, what time will I put down on the calendar to leave the Leo house to go the the Met so someone could reserve the Limo. We don't want to leave that to the last minute.
Since Monday Cruise is still a "maybe" we could leave that open till Tuesday evening when I will shut my computer. I will leave to catch my train on Wednesday morning at 7:30 am.
The rest is pretty much good as it is with some room to manoeuvre. What do you say?
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Having the Italian restaurant right next to us and available at any time, I think we should consider going downtown, near the theater and having an early dinner befor our show. That way we do not have to rush. How close is the marquis to our theatre Ginny?
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Of course I should go to Ellis Island instead of the Brooklyn Book Fair! I tend to forget how old I've become without being really aware of it!!!!!!!!!! I don't "do" subways anymore - too many steps, too hot in the summer and sometimes too crowded. Mob scenes are really not for me.
I've been to the DC Book Festival but the layout there is more spacious and I never had any trouble getting a seat for any of the author talks that I attended. I even got my hero, Michael Dirda's inscription in his book!
So I'll be quite happy going to Ellis Island - always have wanted to see that place.
It's too bad about the organ music but actually it's the choral singing that I go for. I hope we can make the 4:30 service - should be able to - but if not, c'est la vie!
I won't be arriving until Thursday afternoon so will miss the cruise. I see that you are planning to do the High Line around the middle of that day. Meg and I will do it Saturday morning, I guess - we both want to see it and the Chelsea market too.
Meg is coming to NY Thursday evening - she could only get Friday off. I have to wait for my son to come down from Albany to stay with his Dad while I am gone. As it is DH will be on his own Thursday PM until Kevin arrives on Friday noon. I have wonderfully helpful kids!! This all sounds horribly complicated, doesn't it????
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New York Soirée Calendar
Wednesday September 8th,
Fraunces Tavern Museum = 3 :30 pm
Dinner at Bridge Café = 6:00 pm
Thursday September 9th,
Time to leave Leo House = 8:30
Hudson Cruise around Manhattan = 9:30 am
Chelsea Market = Lunch
High Line
Friday, September 10th
Transport to the Met by Limousine = 8:45 am
Metropolitan Museum of Art = 9:45 am
Lunch in the Atrium = noon
Chariot and Cubiculum = 1:00 pm
Afternoon , free
Million Dollar Quartet = 8:00 pm
Saturday September 11th
Morning and Lunch, free
Tea at Sarabeth, = 4:00 – 6:00 pm
40 Central Park South
New York, N.Y. 10019
Phone 212 826 5959
Evening, free
Sunday September 12th
Breakfast with Andrea = 8 or 9 am
Ellis Island, transport to pier by taxi
Brooklyn Book Festival
Broadway on Broadway
St Thomas Evensong
Lion King = 6:30 pm
Monday September 13th
Departure
Lucy’s phone number
Home 347-230-4776 – Cell 609-709-8849
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Those wanting to go to Ellis Island will convene in the Lobby of the Leo. As an alternative, Ann plans a trip to the Tenement Museum. OR just do your own thing! Contact: ginny (gvinesc@gmail.com) for details.
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Eloise will be our Coordinator daily at Breakfast at the Leo House. She will be at the cafeteria for an hour to take messages and keep everybody informed on what is happening on that day.
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The short terms, unscheduled -- High Line Park, with maybe a visit to Chelsea Market nearby, Union Square, The Strand, Chelsea Market, shopping, Tenement House and Museum, Botanical Gardens, Etaly if open, a Broadway Show, Algonquin or Chelsea Hotels, concerts, opera, bus tour of NYC, etc.
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[/center]You will note that I have put in a time for departure from the Leo house for the two events, Thursday and Friday but I don't have confirmation for this. I know it's one hour before the event but I don't know how long it takes to get there and reservations has to be made for a Limo. It's good to know what time to set the alarm for. ;D
Only three days left before I leave.
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Eloise,
The city has printed bus maps as well as subway maps. The Leo House should be able to tell you where to get them if they don't have them. And just to be clear, Brooklyn Borough Hall is one or two subway stops in Brooklyn, once the train leaves Manhattan. And they don't announce that you're now in Brooklyn, just the name of the station.
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People, look what I found at the American Guild of Organists website:
September 12 — Sunday
5:15 pm. Christopher Jacobson (Columbia, S.C.), organist. (Following Choral Evensong at 4:00 pm.) St. Thomas Church Fifth Avenue, Fifth Ave./53rd St. Free. (212) 757-7013, ext. 303. Handicapped accessible facility. (And it's also listed on the church's website under Organ Recitals, but I really had to look for it).
I think Lucy and I were looking at the same St. Thomas Church website that listed church services and they didn't list the recital afterwards. They did say that the Evensong is a service with a sermon but no communion. And their men and boys' choir is spectacular.
I went looking for music and found this and another organ concert for money at St. Ignatius which is walking distance from the Met Museum on Park Ave. but not on anyone's Sunday route.
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The subway ride from midtown Manhattan to Borough Hall in Brooklyn is at most 30 minutes and generally not painful in any way. People live in that neighborhood because the commute to Manhattan is so easy.
On the subject of churches: St. Thomas Evensong 4:00 p.m., not 4:30.
Another good church to visit is Trinity on Wall Street in Manhattan--trinitywallstreet.org/calendar. That is the church that helped the survivors and responders to 9/11, and of course since the anniversary is coming while you are here there are many activities. Five blocks from there is St. Paul's Chapel that housed a museum of 9/11 memorabilia, much of which has been moved to Vesey and Church Streets near the 9/11 site.
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I went to the St. Thomas site and am glad to see that the organ recitals are on. Sorry, I completely missed it. Thanks for finding it, Zulema.
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JoanR,
Others might want to join you and Meg on Saturday after breakfast. Those who don't go to the High Line Park on Thursday might still want to see it.
I am not one for organ concerts but will the Evensong service have choral music??
Lucy and Zulema,
Glad we have found that there is an organ concert at St Thomas after Evensong. I am sure that some of us will want to go. Whoever does plan on going could meet out front at 3:45??
Today,its chilly here in downtown Gahanna! Brrrrrrr! 50 degrees. Packing mentally again! This is getting more serious as we only have two more days before Mary and I leave for NYC. Am just going to have to layer up or down. Haha!
Alf,
I thought that we went to the Marquis before saw Spamalot?? No??? Where is the Marquis? Is is close to our destination theatre?? Is it not where we have already eaten??? Alf, come in, come in!
I haven't heard from Suzanne or Vivian about going to the Fraunces Tavern museum but I know that Lucy is meeting Mary and I there. That's three of us plus the quartet from the Leo who will meet us at the Bridge
Cafe and Zulema, who is also going to be at the Bridge Cafe at 6pm.
Here's the list of diners: There are 9 of us right now. I have to confirm our number by Tuesday night.
Ginny
Ann
Mary
Lucy
Vivian
Pedl'n
Gay
Andy
Zulema
Eloise,
Your schedule has grown. Could you put a meeting time for St Thomas Evensong and organ concert at 3:45pm?
Some of us might not want to attend both. I am not much for the organ concert. Am I starting to repeat myself. I love the availability of "DELETE"!
Ginny,
Are we still on for the limo from the Leo to Sarabeth's?? Do you have a departure time?
Lucy,
I thought it was St Paul's who took in all the volunteers after 9/11. When we were there in '08, they had it all laid out with stories of the volunteers plus other memoribilia so I just took it for granted that St Paul's had done it all. It makes much more sense, since there were a plethora of volunteers, that Triinity opened their doors as a soup kitchen, a place to rest and even massage therapists were around. Seems like there would be more room at Trinity for that story to happen. I do have some lovely pictures from that little church.
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Annie, isn't Ginny going to the Bridge Cafe?
Zulema, I'm so glad the St. Thomas concert is still on. I was looking forward to that.
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I'm planning to travel to the Fraunces with Vivian Wednesday, so you can count her in.
Do people going to the High Line Saturday know that there is a free guided tour at 11:00 a.m.?
The Marquis and the theater are surely walking distance from each other. You just need to get addresses and write them down because it is a maze down there and you have to watch where you are going and keep track of the numbered streets.
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Pedl'n,
Yes, Ginny is part of the quartet that you will be travling with down to the Bridge Cafe. They will be in contact with you at the Leo or you could let them know when you arrive.
Thanks for the heads up on Vivian, Lucy. So Mary and I will meet you and Vivian inside the front door entry area at 3:30? Is that okay??
And, if we go to dinner at the Marquis, we will have Ginny to direct us as she has been in that area frequently. Right, Ginny?
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Zulema, Lucy, thanks for the info on the subway, but I will pass this time. About the maps, I will arrive late on Wednesday and leave early on Thursday and I was hoping to get a map ASAP in case I needed it. I still don't have American coins as banks here don't have them.
Ann, I put in the time for St. Thomas Evensong. and I put the address for Hotel Marquis in the schedule, it's 1535 Broadway. I will post it later today. Time is getting shorter. Here it is cold, but apparently in NY we will have glorious weather in the 70s. Hourrah
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Lucy,
That's a good point on the Saturday free tour of the High Line park.
Eloise,
Would you put that info in the calendar under the Saturday heading? Just in case some of us are too pooped to pop without a nap after the Cruise. That might be me or others. I am getting to be such a whoose!!
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Eloise,
Would you put that info in the calendar under the Saturday heading? !
Which info are you talking about. We are exchanging lots of info here right now. Is it the St. Thomas infor about the time 3:45 pm? I thought it was Sunday.
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Annie- The Marquis/Marriot is the one on Times Square.
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To avoid making the calendar/schedule become unmaneagable if it becomed too detailed I am reposting the venues addresses and we can insert the item we want to go to in our own schedule. If you want you can print it.
The Strand = 828 Broadway
Book Store in Greenwich Village
Top of the Rock, Times Square. = 44th street between 7th and 8th ave.
Marquis Hotel Revolving Restaurant = 1535 Broadway
Tenement Museum and Book store = 97 Orchard Street
Ellis Island = Port of New York
St. Patrick’s Cathedral = 460 Madison Avenue
High Line Park
Chelsea Market = 75 9th Avenue (Between 15th and 16th Streets),
Guggenheim = 1071 Fifth Avenue (at 89th Street
Museum of Modern Art = 11 West 53 Street
Bus tour of Manhattan
Ground Zero
Union Square = East 17th Street
Eataly = West 23rd Street near Fifth Avenue,
Greenwich Village bookstore
TV show = Times Square
King Tut exhibition =
King Tut Exhibition
The Museum of the American Indian = 1 Bowling Green,
Morgan Library = 225 Madison Ave,
St. John the Divine Cathedral = 1047 Amsterdam Avenue,
St. Thomas Church = 1 West 53rd Street,
Million Dollar Quartet = 253 West 125th Street
Top of the Strand = 33 West 37th Street
Glass Bar at Hotel Indigo = 127 West 28th Street
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New York Soirée Calendar
Wednesday September 8th
Fraunces Tavern Museum = 3 :30 pm
Dinner at Bridge Café = 6:00 pm
Thursday September 9th,
Time to leave Leo House = 8:30
Hudson Cruise around Manhattan = 9:30 am
Chelsea Market = Lunch
High Line
Friday, September 10th
Transport to the Met by Limousine = 8:45 am
Metropolitan Museum of Art = 9:45 am
Lunch in the Atrium = noon
Chariot and Cubiculum = 1:00 pm
Hotel Marquis
1535 Broadway NYC = 6:00 pm
Million Dollar Quartet = 8:00 pm
Saturday September 11th
Morning and Lunch, free
Tea at Sarabeth, = 4:00 – 6:00 pm
40 Central Park South
New York, N.Y. 10019
Phone 212 826 5959
Sunday September 12th
Breakfast with Andrea = 8 or 9 am
Ellis Island, transport to pier by taxi
Brooklyn Book Festival
Broadway on Broadway
St Thomas Evensong = 3:45 pm
Lion King = 6:30 pm
Monday September 13th
Departure
Lucy’s phone number
Home 347-230-4776 – Cell 609-709-8849
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For Annie:
Evensong has the combined choirs of men and boys, so yes Choral music.
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Just in from a weekend family reunion in Georgia. Let's just do this for tonight?
Eloise would you please change the arrival time at the Met to 9:30? We need to be there when the doors open, and it's 9:30 that happens. We are aiming for lunch at 11:30 unless people want to hear the 11:00 Gallery Talk then they will eat at 12:00.
Do you all want a limo to the Met as well? I think we are unlikely to find a cab which wants to go that far, we're talking about a subway and then either a bus or catching a cab if we can? What do you think?
New Yorkers, how would you go to the Met? It's a long way from 81st to 23rd.
Ann I need to know when we can get IN Sarabeths, you'll be talking to them soon? That will determine when the limo comes on the 11th, and there may be a good bit of traffic that day (just thinking out loud).
The Mariott Marquis is between 45 and 46th Streets, fronting on Broadway in Times Square. The Nederlander Theater is off 7th on 208 41st, so if we eat, say, at the Marquis, exiting the Marquis on Broadway in Times Square, we'll turn right, on Broadway, keep right on 7th about 4 of the short blocks, turn right on 41st, and it's not far down 41st to 208. Then to get back we'll go back to 7th, turn left and to the 42nd street subway. I am not sure of the neighborhood in those short blocks, I've walked down 7th but in the daytime, we can mass together like a tank. hahaaa
I THINK the press and the crowds that night will make it OK, but I do seem to have an unpleasant memory of walking that late at night, we'll be fine in our group with the crowd.
GINNY cannot lead herself out of a paper bag, :), everybody going (and it looks like a great theater evening) check the locations of both the Marquis and the Nederlander in advance:
Here are both the Marquis with its theater (4) and the Nederlander (6). Eloise, the Lion King is at (#5) on this map:
http://nederlandertheatre.com/map_locator.php
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A limo to the met sounds good. I don't do subways, and getting there on time by bus sounds iffy. A cab is fine with me too, if we can get them. What, we're talking 50 blocks? I know nothing about what the cab drivers like or don't like to do.
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It would be better to put on the calendar what time to be downstairs and ready to leave. I don't have the impression that the Limos have been reserved yet. We should allow us time for the unexpected and leave a bit early for an event.
Please specify which event you are talking about when you post something. Sometimes I have to go back far to know what the post is about because I could make a change in the calendar on the wrong day. Thanks.
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I will have to ask Bob how to get to Met Museum from A train so I can get there and will also find out how you can get from Leo to Met by bus. Pedln is right; it is a bit complicated and could take a while, getting buses during late rush hour.
No need, Ginny, to fear walking in NYC at night in Times Square! I have been all over by myself to many worse places than Times Square. There are such crowds there of merry making tourists you can hardly get down the street. I used to go to movies there at the AMC all the time where they have recently discovered bedbugs, a greater hazard along with falling, than being mugged or assaulted.
Ann, I have to talk to Vivian about Wednesday. Is there a tour or some reason why we have to be there at 3:30? I was thinking we would aim for that hour and when we get there simply join you in the museum, which is not large, so if we are late you can still be seeing the exhibits.
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How to get to the Metropolitan Museum from Leo House: if you take the C train, go uptown to 81st and Central Park West and from there take an M79 bus through Central Park directly to the museum. That's how I plan to get there.
If you take buses only, you will need to take an M23 to Madison Avenue, then an M1 to 79th and walk over to 5th Avenue. I will have a bus map I can give to anyone who wants it.
A side note: September 11, the 8th Avenue Street Fair will be going on--between 14th and 23rd, right near the Leo. These happenings are kind of fun. I was in Manhattan today and went to the Brazil Street Fair and found it much improved over street fairs a few years ago--good food and decent shopping.
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Thank you Lucy. I printed the instruction in case we have to go to the Met by Public transport. But I hope it will be by Limo or taxi, but in case that's not possible, we will take other means. I hope we can stay together, sometimes buses are crowded, during rush hour and we might have to separate.
I printed that map Ginny's map. It makes it very clear in my mind and I can always locate myself in a city with a map in my hand.
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That street fair sounds like a lot of fun, Lucy.
My printer from H___ decided to work last night, so I've printed out bus directions for the Met, Sarabeth's, Ellis I, etc., as well the PDF file of the Manhattan Bus Route -- in 4 pieces. But would much rather take a limo or taxi to the Met.
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I just spent a half hour answering all your questions and lost the whole creeping post. Damn!
Answers in a nutshell:
Lucy, if you and Vivian want to arrive late or not at all at the museum, it closes at 5pm when we will be walking or busing down to the Bridge Cafe. Let me know by email. or call: 1 614 478 7891 Home:
Cell-1 614 256 7600.
Are we planning on using cabs or another limo to the Cruise??
Ginny,
My question about the Marriott Marquis was didn't Andrea, Mary, you and I, eat there before seeing Spamalot?
Time to arrive at Sarabeth's and get into room is 3:45pm.
Yes, to all limos planned.
JoanR,
What I hear you saying is if one wants to just hear the choral music, one can leave after Evensong. Right?
Eloise,
I see from your schedule that you do know that Evensong is on Sunday at St Thomas.
I have misplaced most of my maps so will have to depend on everyone else bringing theirs. Or is time allows, try printing them out again tonight. I am leaving for NYC tomorrow so must do my packing to day.
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OOook, looks like we're well on the way here and the 8th Avenue Street Fair is something I really want to attend, thank you SO much, Lucy, I am so glad to hear about it! YAY for NYC!!
Eloise, no, as of last week I had actually confirmed three limo reservations, two for my own use, secured happily with coupons off for each, but the Sarabeth's time of arrival has changed, as you can see, so the time to be downstairs was invalid until we heard when one should be downstairs.
However, I'm out of time so this morning I have arranged a 4th ride for us to the Met, (it is not a limo) and I have (sorry) arbitrarily changed the time of the pick up for Sarabeth's, (I see that suits Ann's arrangements too, so we're win/win) to enable us to get there at the last suggested time. Now no matter what Sarabeth's says, we leave at 3:15, we have to get something firm here so the car can actually come? hahahaa
I am not making any more changes to these reservations, rain, shine or hailstorm. :) Or street fair. They have been asked to drive past the Flatiron Building so you all can see it on the way to Sarabeths.
On 9/11 we have a stretch limo as is our tradition. It will leave at 3:15 (they all have a 1/2 hour ride, which is logical) and will get there probably around 3:45. This we will not change again, so be sure to bring an umbrella, everybody, just in case, what fun and snazzy take off.
For the Met again the 1/2 hour, and we have decided on 8:45 as the pick up time instead of 9 am, so around a little before 9 we'll assemble in the lobby. This is not a stretch limo but a mini van for 6 and a town car for 4. This will afford us half price on the trip, two more coupons off, and save our limo swanking around for our piece de resistance, Sarabeth's.
I must say this is a record, even for me, with 4 car services in 6 days hahaha, but how many times are you going around? We're not staying at the Ritz, so let's have a little VIP treatment for our old bones. hahahaa It's well worth it, I have done the subway up to the Met and the bus and the walk when the subway station was unexpexctely closed for the day, we can do your walking (and it will be a lot) IN the Museum, let's just get there without a lot of hassle, and enjoy. (And then of course, remember, you have to get yourselves home from each venue).
Zulema, you are right, I THINK. Nobody get all tied up with the Carson Hall name business. In two phone conversations, with the Met Assistant Coordinator and our Guide Rebecca, both of them mentioned the Carson thing and both mentioned this room off the 81st street entrance, but they mentioned a of things: the main thing to remember is that Rebecca will meet us at the door at 9:30, she's going early, and personally convey us (talk about VIP treatment, we did not have anything like this last time!) where we need to go. I tell you, HER name we all need to write down somewhere for future reference.
Pedln I laughed in sympathy about your printer from H____. My own Printer from H______ has decided not to print the little souvenir brochures/ booklets I have worked on SO long, my desk is covered with info and photos, and so our memories, those going, of the cubiculum and the chariot part, will be your best souvenir.
What is important about the chariot is not its size, but the fact it's there at all. It's Etruscan, a people which until fairly recently we knew almost nothing about (they still don't agree on what language they may have spoken), and this, from a tomb, is one of the very few complete chariots to survive from antiquity. It's made of bronze on wood, with elephant and hippopotamus ivory. Because chariots were not used in warfare when it was made, they theorize it was for ceremonial purposes before being buried in a tomb. It's 2nd quarter 6th c BC, and seems to be some kind of bridge between the Etruscans and the Greeks. The subject matter is Greek, the chariot style is Etruscan. Very important artifact.
Well I'm excited! Our transportation for Friday and Saturday is now set in stone, other than that we're on our own. It will be nice to just get in and go.
I need to go by the Met after we have lunch at the Chelsea Market on Thursday for a minute to see about last minute arrangements. I will try to make it from there to the HighLine Park, but if I get caught up at the Met, don't wait for me.
What are we doing if anything for dinner Thursday night? I can meet a couple of you there, if anybody is getting up a group. Down the street? Or?
OK, what remains now to be done? Or said? Can't believe we'll be there in 2 days!!
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Ginny,
Did you read my above post??
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Yes, we posted together and I do see it now. And the time is set for 3:45 arrival, as you requested. We can adjust the times we told the authors as we go. All systems go!
Ginny,
My question about the Marriott Marquis was didn't Andrea, Mary, you and I, eat there before seeing Spamalot?
I think we did. Would you rather eat somewhere else this time? I like the view from the Marquis, especially as it turns to dark.
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This is also probably a good time to say I think you will be dazzled by Sarabeth's and our two authors, and so we really need to remember to thank Ann, who chose Sarabeth's, and who has arranged this venue so well, it will be one to remember!
As well thanks (why not thank in advance so it's on record) to Eloise for organizing us so well, Lucy for all her advance work and scouting venues, my goodness what effort she's put out, and advice, Zulema for her on the spot advice, and all of YOU who took an event or helped with the planning and especially, no matter what came up, you gracefully and kindly adapted. That is our lynch pin of success. I have the feeling if we said, OK, change, we can't see XXX or YYY you'd adapt!
That's what makes our gatherings so much fun and so unexpected: your spirit.
The overview looks astounding: we've got 3 choices on the last Sunday, a Street Fair on the 11th one long block over, a Book Festival in Brooklyn, an Author Tea at the award winning Sarabeth's, a fabulous private tour of the Met (and might I timidly add for those interested, a brief look at the cubiculum and chariot with your personal Lecturer) :) (don't think I'm not going to frame that badge, we definitely need to grab one of the guards who hover over the cubiculum and make him take a photo) and a cruise around Manhattan in perfect weather, a trip for those wanting it to Ellis Island or wherever, a Broadway on Broadway with Kelsey Grammer, two Broadway Shows: what's not to like?
I think we've done ourselves proud, the TRICK will be to pace YOURSELF so you don't get exhausted. I just came back from a two day in law family reunion totally exhausted, let's not do that to ourselves on this trip so we can enjoy!
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Here's the list of diners: There are 7 of us right now. I have to confirm our number by Tuesday night.
Ann
Mary
Lucy
Pedl'n
Gay
Andy
Zulema
Ann I will be at the Bridge Cafe as well.
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The local newspaper this morning recommends putting your suitcase in the bathtub of any hotel while you check the mattress seams for bedbugs. I like that idea, a good place for it to rest, when you are not bathing, nothing can get in it there.
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Terrific idea, Ginny. Bathtub? Shower, maybe, down the hall. ;D
And on one of the cable channels they talked about "encasements." Several months ago I picked up a packet of those compressible plastic travel bags and decided they were somewhat useless. However, it may be a good idea to have one's clothes encased in plastic.
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New York Soirée Calendar
Wednesday September 8th,
Fraunces Tavern Museum = 3 :30 pm
Dinner at Bridge Café = 6:00 pm
Thursday September 9th,
Time to leave Leo House Limo = 8:30 am
Hudson Cruise around Manhattan = 9:30 am
Chelsea Market = 11:30 am
High Line
Friday, September 10th
Transport to the Met by Limo = 8:55 am
Metropolitan Museum of Art = 9:30 am
Lunch in the Atrium = 11:30 am
Chariot and Cubiculum
Hotel Marquis
1535 Broadway NYC = 6:00 pm
Million Dollar Quartet = 8:00 pm
Saturday September 11th
High Line Park Free Tour Sept 11th=11:00am
Sarabeth's
Time to leave in limo = 3:15
Tea at Sarabeth, = 4:00 – 6:00 pm
40 Central Park South
New York, N.Y. 10019
Phone 212 826 5959
Sunday September 12th
Breakfast with Andrea = 8 or 9 am
Ellis Island, transport to pier by taxi
Brooklyn Book Festival
Broadway on Broadway
St Thomas Evensong = 3:45 pm
Lion King = 6:30 pm
Monday September 13th
Departure
Lucy’s phone number
Home 347-230-4776 – Cell 609-709-8849
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A new Schedule, please check the times for possible errors. thank you
This is getting to be too exciting for this Northerner way up in Montreal. The New York Soirée cannot be less than fabulous and I am so anxious to meet some of you for the first time and quite a few I have met once or twice before at previous reunions.
I can relax about the transportation now Ginny, it's all in good hands.
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Great, looks great, thank you so much, Eloise. I've printed it out, we want to congregate in the Lobby at 8:45 for the Met and be in the cars and taking off at 8:55 or so. Could you add the 8th Avenue Street Festival on the 11th that Lucy mentioned? It sounds to die for. I love those things.
Just talked to the Leo House, they do have blow driers so you don't need to bring one, just FYI, I could not remember.
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Pedln, a great idea, I bought some 4x bags the other day, they do say they can't get thru plastic, and that's what I plan to put my clothes in.
You all do know that they say one of the nastiest parts of any hotel room is the drawhers where 80 something percent of all men travellers put their dirty clothes? Look into some of those hotel sites sometimes, you will have a lot of eyebrow raising at what really goes on.
Nobody should have a bath down the hall?
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(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chelsea_Market_1880675433_b8ae95cbf7.jpg)
Chelsea Market
Chelsea Market is an enclosed, urban food court and shopping mall in New York City.
It was built within the former Nabisco factory complex where the Oreo cookie was invented and produced. The 22-building complex fills two entire blocks bounded by 9th and 11th Avenues and 15th to 16th Street. In addition to the retail concourse in the structure east of 10th Avenue, it also provides standard office space for tenants, including media and broadcasting companies such as Oxygen Network, Food Network, Mr Youth, MLB.com, EMI Music Publishing and the local New York City cable station NY1. Also, more recently, Google has moved into some of the second and fourth floors.
Retail facilities were introduced into the building by connecting the original back lots of individual buildings to a central, ground-level concourse with entries at 9th and 10th Avenues (completed in April 1997). Anchor stores include the Chelsea Market Baskets, Manhattan Fruit Exchange, 202 by Nicole Farhi, Amy's Bread, and a restaurant, called Buddakan. There is also the Fat Witch Bakery, Ruth's Bakery, Eleni's Bakery, The Lobster Place, Frank's Meat, and Chelsea Thai.
In January 2006 on the 10th Avenue side, Morimoto, owned by Food Network "Iron Chef" Masaharu Morimoto and designed by Japanese architect Tadao Ando opened. Opposite Morimoto across 10th Avenue, also in the Chelsea Market complex is Del Posto, an Italian restaurant owned by fellow "Iron Chef", Mario Batali. The Food Network films its shows Iron Chef America and Emeril Live in the Chelsea Market.
The developers of Chelsea Market have encouraged a symbiotic relationship among their tenants with the vendors supplying the restaurateurs with fresh ingredients, such as seafood, vegetables, fruit and meats. The presence of television companies in the same building also brings media attention to the site and the businesses that are found there. The site also allows businesses to combine their manufacturing and retail assets under one roof.
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8th ave Festival is in the schedule I will post it later today.
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Eataly is open, apparently. You need to get half-way down on this link to see any comments worth reading -- both a grocery and restaurant. A mixed bag of reviews. It sounds worth a look-see, anyway, and maybe a gelato.
Eataly (http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/512806)
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Eloise,
Could you please put the info about the High Line park having a free tour at 11am above the info for Sarabeth
s? I believe that JoanR and Meg are going then and some others who may not have made it to the park on Thursday could go then if they want.
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Annie, I nboticed that this AM and was going to write you about the Highline. Thank you Eloise for doing this for us. It makes life so much easier. When we get there we can exchange cell phone #s so that noone is left alone. (Unless they opt for that, of course.)
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(http://seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/soireegif.jpg)
September 8-12, 2010
We Came, We Saw, We Conquered! We're BAACK!
(http://seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/NewYork.jpg)
Author's Tea at Sarabeth's on Central Park South:
(http://seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/bookfests/NYCauthorstea.jpg)
(http://seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/bookfests/NYCmet.jpg)
Morning at the Met: at the Metropolitan Museum of Art's American Wing
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Andy, is this the Italian place you have mentioned, where you and Ginny ate?
"I have been raving about Don Giovanni's on 10th Avenue between W.22nd & W.23rd since having eaten there. The Italian dishes are hearty, the portions large and the atmosphere is casual and upbeat. It's great for first-time New York Visits as well as for those of us who have lived here for years, and want good food without attitude"
Looks close to Leo.
I need to get off this computer and do other stuff, but looking for things in New York is so much fun.
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If I remember correctly we ate in a place near the Leo House on 23rd st. The servings were huge, alright,( I don't remember the name of the place!). but I like the looks of the Don Giovanni menu. I see an appetizer I would have and then split an eggplant parm. with Meg. She's a vegetarian & I don't eat red meat so that sounds good.
Does anyone remember the name of the place we went before?
I would hope to get together with all of you for dinner Thursday eve - wherever!
Suitcase is gaping wide and waiting for stuff! The right stuff, I hope!
I appreciate all the well thought out schedules - so helpful!
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Ann, those are those little short blocks. :)
Ok you and Mary and Andrea can decide where you'd like to eat and when and I'll go, too. I'm agreeable.
I don't remember the Don Giovanni but 10th is about 3 very long blocks away. I like the look of it tho, very much. The one we liked was two doors down between the Leo and 7th.
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I don't believe it was Don Giovanni's on 23rd. We got that recommendation for that restaurant when Ann (Pedln) and I were catching a bus. I struck up a conversation and asked the lady the best Italian near by and she gave us that recommendation. It had one name like Diana's or something like that. I say let's try something new and hit Don Giovanni's Pedln, it is near by the Leo House.
Annie- 5 blocks = 5 minutes. I want to go to the Marquis so I can revolve and enjoy the city lights. :D We can always meet after the show, as well.
Has anyone thought about going to the Top of the Rock? It's on 49th and 5th but I know nothing else about it. I'm going to check it out.
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OK Ann, I'll add the free tour at 11 am for High Line
Andrea, I really like your suggestion to exchange cell phone nunbers. I can't use my cell in the US, that is so strange, but if I get lonely or lost??? I can call someone from a pay phone.
Is there a lounge in the Leo where we can talk before going to bed?
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Don't forget Vivian, who is scheduled to come to dinner at the Bridge Cafe. We are traveling together.
The Circle Cruise takes three hours, so it will be a little after one when we head to the Chelsea Market.
Eataly was reviewed most favorably by a local TV station this weekend.
Good idea for avoiding bedbugs!
I look forward to seeing everyone soon. Bonne Voyage! Hope everyone has a pleasant trip. Lucy
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New York Soirée Calendar
Wednesday September 8th,
Fraunces Tavern Museum = 3 :30 pm
Dinner at Bridge Café = 6:00 pm
Thursday September 9th,
Time to leave Leo House Limo = 8:30 am
Hudson Cruise around Manhattan = 9:30 am
Chelsea Market = 11:30 am
High Line - free tour = 11:00 am
Friday, September 10th
Transport to the Met by Limo = 8:45 am
Metropolitan Museum of Art = 9:30 am
Lunch in the Atrium = 11:30 am
Chariot and Cubiculum
Hotel Marquis
1535 Broadway NYC = 6:00 pm
Million Dollar Quartet = 8:00 pm
Saturday September 11th
Time to leave is now = 3:15
Tea at Sarabeth, = 4:00 – 6:00
40 Central Park South
New York, N.Y. 10019
Phone 212 826 5959
8th Avenue Festival
Sunday September 12th
Breakfast with Andrea = 8 or 9 am
Ellis Island, transport to pier by taxi
Brooklyn Book Festival
Broadway on Broadway
St Thomas Evensong = 3:45 pm
Lion King = 6:30 pm
Monday September 13th
Departure
Lucy’s phone number
Home 347-230-4776 – Cell 609-709-8849
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Vaya Con Dios, my friends. I'm soo-o-ooo looking forward to seeing each and everyone of you.
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Eloise - My daughter from Toronto has the same trouble with her cell phone once she crosses the border!
We'll just have to make sure that we don't leave you alone or else we can leave messages at the desk for you. You will not be set adrift! I hope we will exchange cell phone numbers at breakfast. I'm just getting used to mine - don't even know what the ring sounds like!!!!
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Right and when we get there I'll exchange cell numbers, too. We've got Lucy's, and she can be our Emergency Aid and Advice number. hahaha (Zulema's message was STILL on my cell phone till I got to Europe this summer and somehow managed to erase everything I needed on it including her voice trying to meet up and our misadventures there). hahaa)
Since Eloise's cell will not work in the US, we can make Andrea the Switchboard and she can keep track of us phone wise: works for me. hahahaa) This morning I was futzing around and couldn't remember something planned after one of our events, no problem: Eloise's schedule to the ready, it's already in my purse.
Remember, for those things you forgot, walk out the front of the hotel, turn right, and at the corner look left, across the street is one of those drug stores which stocks all those things travelers forgot. I plan to make a run there first thing upon arriving at the hotel.
It looks to me as if Eataly is within hiking distance of the hotel for those who like to walk? It's on 5th and is between 23rd and 24th, so it's two LONG blocks down. (The avenues are LONG blocks, I mean wear yourself out blocks, the streets are short and doable). I plan to go there the day of the Street Fair, barring rain, it's in the opposite direction but I want to say I saw it, even tho half of it is not open.
Looks like the only threat of rain is the Ellis Island/ Broadway on Broadway/ Bookfair in Brooklyn day and 30 percent is not a big thing, cross fingers!
Any last minute concerns other than trying to get 50 pounds of books on the plane or train? hahahaa
Safe travels to you all!
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Sure what the heck, I'll be Sally Switch board operator. I can barely keep track of me, but I am willing to try.
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Alf, I promise I will call you every hour on the hour :-*
Just saw a mistake on the schedule about Thursday cruise time which is 3 hours long, sorry. It's the only change since yesterday. and the 8th avenue between 8th and 23rd street. Just on the corner from the Leo House
New York Soirée Calendar
Wednesday September 8th,
Fraunces Tavern Museum = 3 :30 pm
Dinner at Bridge Café = 6:00 pm
Thursday September 9th,
Time to leave Leo House Limo = 8:30 am
Hudson Cruise around Manhattan = 9:30 am 12:30 pm
Chelsea Market = lunch
High Line - free tour = after lunch
Friday, September 10th
Transport to the Met by Limo = 8:45 am
Metropolitan Museum of Art = 9:30 am
Lunch in the Atrium = 11:30 am
Chariot and Cubiculum = after lunch
Hotel Marquis
1535 Broadway NYC = 6:00 pm
Million Dollar Quartet = 8:00 pm
Saturday September 11th
Time to leave = 3:15
Tea at Sarabeth, = 4:00 – 6:00
40 Central Park South
New York, N.Y. 10019
Phone 212 826 5959
8th Avenue Festival between 8th and 23rd street
Sunday September 12th
Breakfast with Andrea = 8 or 9 am
Ellis Island, transport to pier by taxi
Brooklyn Book Festival
Broadway on Broadway
St Thomas Evensong = 3:45 pm
Lion King = 6:30 pm
Monday September 13th
Departure
Lucy’s phone number
Home 347-230-4776 – Cell 609-709-8849
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Have a good trip, everyone!! I'll see you in the Big Apple on Thursday. Will hope to meet for dinner!!
Maybe you could leave me a note at the desk.
Watch out, NYC, here we come!
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Oh why do I live at the "ends of the earth"!!!
I hope you will take lots of photos and give us a blow by blow account of your soiree!
Carolyn
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Hey Kiwilady - its our Yankee friends who live 'at the end of the earth' not us.
They'll have a ball in NYC - and yes, I wish I was with them too!
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The thing is that because we are in cyberspace its hard to reconcile the fact of the distances separating us!
Carolyn
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It was marvelous seeing you all and talking to you all and I wish you godspeed getting home safe and sound.
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Well we're on the way home, I echo Zulema that it was fabulous, EVERYBODY pitched in, we picked up 3 I think new people for the Books and 2 for the Latin. Both authors have written how much they enjoyed it-- will put their thanks in when I can copy andf paste.
The photos are fantastic-- wait till you see!
So good to see you all here! Wait till you hear the stories.
Ann just said she thouight this was our best one ever. I agree, really One For the Books AND the Latin.We had the largest Classics contingent ever too.
Give us a bit, you won't believe the photos and stories!
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One of the best things about this trip was the great cooperation and spirit among all those who went. These are such independent spirits that we got a LOT covered. Just in looking at the list, I hope each person will come in and tell about their adventures in these or something else they did, share here with all of us their fun time because it WAS such a fun time.
I'm trying, till they all get home, to make a list of what we all did.
So far we've got the:
Author Tea
The Metropolitan Museum of Art
The Bridge Cafe
The Cruise
The Chelsea Market
The High Line Park
Eataly is Open!
The 8th Avenue Street Fair
Broadway on Broadway
Sitting down the row in the theater from Bill Clinton
Seeing Jerry Lee Lewis play himself onstage in Million Dollar Man
The South Pole Exhibit, Scott Versus Amundsun at the Museum of Natural History
The Lion King
Grand Central Station
The Revolving Restaurant at the Marquis
Ellis Island
The Brooklyn Book Festival
The Chinese Limo Driver With the General Tsao Complex
Shopping!
Limos! (We held our tradition up here, as well as on the subways, the buses and the taxicabs of NYC!~)
The St. Patrick's Cathedral 9/11 Concert
The Death Defying Bus Ride by Night
Being Rowdy in the Lobby (at our ages) and shushed by the staff....
And MORE!~! No we did ALL do ALL of these things but some of us did every one of the above, and I'm really wanting when everybody gets in, to hear their own takes on the events above and the 101 others that we don't know about.
We need to thank Ann Alden eternally for coordinating this entire thing so well and arranging Sarabeth's, a million details, but the authors and those attending really enjoyed it. I've got a photo of Ann and Mary's door that shows exactly what was involved.
Thanks to Eloise who acted as unofficial events coordinator daily and kept track of us, and whose schedule saved the bacon for many of us!
Thanks to Andrea who unofficially was the Social Chair and Mother Hen and did a heck of a job.
Thanks to Mary, our MC with the Most, she can have the job in perpetuity.
Thanks to Lucy who honestly worked night and day, I can't believe the time she put in, wait till you hear, to be sure we got where we should be, and really helped with the NYC logistics, and to Zulema for the great suggestions (that St. Patrick's was just perfect).
And thanks to all those, named or not named above, who attended with such bright spirits and...incredible attitudes, because YOU are what made it, are what we remember, and what made it perfect. That's all I can think of, the shining attitudes, all the rest was pure serendipity. And it was!
The weather was perfect, the New Yorkers helpful and kind, and we have a new slogan to go with the A Train is the A Train but you can't say it in polite company. hahahaa
I'm really proud of this group, 7 of whom were Classics Students, and how wonderfully everybody came together as a group. Will never forget it. I hope everybody gets home safe, Gay on the plane to England, Eloise on the 12 hour train to Canada, and everybody else by plane train or car.
I've got something like 200 photos but a hectic week coming up, so will just put up two now, one of the Author's Tea (minus Maryann's husband who was shy of being photographed):
(http://seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/bookfests/authorteanyc.jpg)
I have more of the tea as well, and the notes from the authors tomorrow.
And here are our intrepid Three Musketeers at Ellis Island Before "The Birds," and I think I'll start there with my own remembrances tomorrow. hahahaa
(http://seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/bookfests/EllisIsland500.jpg)
From left we have Pedln, Joan R, and Gay from England, about to depart the dock for Ellis Island on the only day it rained. The sea heaved (I got a photo of it), the boat rocked up and down, the gangplank was straight down and slick as a seal's back and the BIRDS. I found I would not have lasted 1/2 day as an Immigrant. Maybe not even that long.
I am so glad it rained, it was such an experience. Everybody on the boat spoke a different...well... I plan to start there with my own stories and put in more on the Tea and the notes from the authors and the photos tomorrow afternoon. I hope everybody will come in and share what they each did and saw, their own memories, photos or not: a GREAT trip!~
I wouldn't take anything for the memories.
Something really surprised me about NYC this time, but more on that tomorrow. :)
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I got home one hour ahead of schedule and the train ride was great. I am glad I had that experience.
Never in my life did I expect to have such an exciting time in the Big Apple. Most of all was the joy of seeing my old friends again that I had not seen in some years was an emotional moment for me.
The hotel was so "downtown" that I walked to Penn Station. I could not list all the fun things I did during those 5 days, it was one hectic event following the other but I guess that looking at the New York City lights from the 48th floor revolving restaurant of the Marquis Hotel after seeing the Lion King performance was the most memorable moment even if they were all exceptional.
Thank you Ginny for organizing this Soirée in New York for us. I hope to see you all next time.
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Hello shipmates!
I have been back home for over an hour. My son has been decorating my office but unplugged all the leads on my computer. I so wanted to go online that I just had to get them put right and then log on to our website.
I had a really wonderful time meeting my fellow Latin onliners and meeting the bookworms as well!
Lovely to see some photos posted already. I am going to sleep now as I feel like I am still on the boat at Ellis Island! All at sea!
All of you and many New Yorkers have been so kind to me and really went out of your way to make my trip so enjoyable and memorable. Thank you Grazia Mille!
Will write again later. My daughter is cooking my tea so I shall get up when it's ready!
Love to all
Gay
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Good day, everyone! I am whipped, my feet are bleeding but my spirits are high. I am very proud to be called a New Yorker after this trip. 9-11 changed many attitudes and they are all for the best. I can not tell you the hundreds of people that I spoke with when I went to "Broadway on Broadway" at Times Square & each and every person was kind, helpful and considerate of others. This event on Broadway is the opening season of the 2010-2011 existing and new Broadway shows, hosted right on Times Square by Keelsey Grammer. I was warned (like I ever listen well) not to go due to the congestion and the thousands of people. Well there was no congestion, 5 blocks were closed off to traffic and the event was televised against the front of the buildings, up and down the square. It was fabulous!!!!!! They had chairs, small tables, and a huge bleacher set up at the end of it. I can not tell you how much I enjoyed the 10 min. previews each show provided to us. I even got to see the 4 wonderful performers from Million Dollar Quartet, which we had seen on Friday night. I have to come back and tell you about THAT wonderful night.
Each show was represented and it was well broadcasted- you could hear and see each and everyone of them with those "close-up" cameras. I was so excited, I am absolutely smitten with Broadway productions and walked myself up the street after that to see The Fantastics who had a 20 for 20 deal going. 20 minutes prior to the show, it costs 20 bucks. If you can believe it- it was front row for me. I don't wish to lose this post- soo---
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From dinner at the Bridge Café to our last breakfast at Leo House it was all super super super. I don’t know how we did it all, but we did, and we can write the book on the big city -- what to do, where to go, and how to get there.
Thank you so much Ginny and Ann for all the efforts you put in to make sure everything was perfect and this such a memorable trip. For me, seeing old friends again and meeting new ones was the highlight, but I enjoyed everything we did. My girls loved the tea at Sarabeth’s and a chance to hear our authors. I missed the concert at St. Patricks (opting instead for a visit to Grand Central Station), but what a treat to walk in to St Thomas Church and listen to that wonderful choir with the boy sopranos, and then stay for the organ concert.
Andy, I'll echo you about New Yorkers. Everywhere we went, such helpful kind people, for which I am truly grateful.
It was a short easy trip from Leo to Brooklyn and the keys with the color coding instructions were right where they were supposed to be. I hope everyone had an easy and uneventful trip home.
More later
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I guess I am hogging the site, but I don't care, I just want to come in and tell each one of you how very much I enjoyed being with you. Ginny did an admirable job hooking us up at the Met so that those who couldn't hear well were able to use the audio aids, provided by our lecturer. It was extraordinary listening to her relate the earliest of years of "book-binding." At one point we read a book entitled People of the Books by Geraldine Brooks (I think it was) and this lecturer discussed much of that information as we drooled over an early Ethiopian book and the story of its binding. From there Ginny took us to the Curriculm ;D- (I will get scolded for that comment) and she gave us an informative, interesting history of this Roman bedroom. I got to listen twice as Ann and Mary seemed to have difficulty keeping up with the rest of us. ;) From there she provided so much in depth information and stories of the Achilles Chariot which was dug up (that's not the right word, is it?) and is now on display. Ginny is a dynamite teacher as most of us already know but boy was she fired up in this wing. She did a sensational job taking us right there and I thank her for the lesson.
Mary and Ann stepped right up to the plate at Sarabeths welcoming our authors. I think I'm in love. :D Oh this Bruce Frankel is my kind of guy. ::) Maryann McFadden as well as Bruce took us through their journeys as writers and I enjoyed their stories as much as I enjoyed reading their books. They were very gracious and humble.
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People, you shame me with your stamina and good spirits! The photos are fantastic and of such better quality than even two years ago (and taken all by different hands). It was a wonderful experience for me although I did 1/4th of what each one of you did, but being with you, absolutely wonderful.
Thank you Ginny, thank you Ann, thank you Andrea, thank you every one, and Eloise and Gay especially for coming from so far away or from out of the country with a very long train ride.
Now you can all recover. Be well!!
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I recognize some of you from past New York trips and It's fun to see the pictures and hear all about it. IT SOUNDS FABULOUS AND I'M SO SORRY I COULDN'T GO! BROADWAY, OH, BROADWAY! Just the sounds of it thrills me - so tell all. Thanks for the pictures!
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Oh hello Pedln, my favorite room mate. I am pleased that your trip to Brooklyn was uneventful.
Poor Gay didn't fly back to England until last evening. I wanted to stay and show her around a bit more but Bill didn't think that was such a good idea. ::)
I was so happy to meet Gay, (Gabrielle). Ginny and I met her at the Airport and she said it made her feel like "royalty" to be greeted by the Americans, holding a sign with her name on it. Between Gay and Mary, I laughed myself sore. That British wit always amuses me and she is full of stories that just cracked me up. I wanted to go home with her, meet her 3 children and have a"spot of tea" with all the family. Gay, you were the highlight of my trip as we exchanged our stories. You are always welcome here whenever you would like to visit Florida.
Mary- on the other hand I will avoid like the plague. Mary is the shopper of the group and boy- can she shop. After the Met, Mary and I walked across Central Park, from East to West side. It was beautiful fall day and perfect for enjoying the bikers, the carriages, the walkers-- all of it.
People say that New York hums- to me it SINGS! Anyway, Mary HAD to stop at Chicos and I dropped a bundle while waiting for her. It is all her fault I told my hubby. :o
I enjoyed watching Eloise and Gay as they absorbed the life of the city and all of its fascination. I could feel what they were feeling and it gave me great joy.
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I'm glad everyone got home safely and that the visitors are pleased with their experience of NYC. I enjoyed meeting everyone, especially my fellow summer reader, Gay, who posted with me almost every day this summer as we read Cambridge III. I was so happy to see Ann, Mary, Joan (who also read with us this summer), Andrea, Pedln, Zulema, and of course Ginny, all of whom I had met 2 years ago. I was glad to meet Eloise for the first time, after her lengthy train ride, which is the kind of trip I also would have enjoyed. Thank you, Ann and Mary, for planning the tea at Sarabeth's, which was excellent, with both of our authors so engaged and willing to share, and the food and venue also very fine.
Ginny, the program at the Met was excellent, and your comments about the chariot superb. Sorry I took you by a needlessly long route back to the Leo the day before. Thanks for all your efforts to make the visit memorable for all and for all the useful information you have posted all summer.
I am sorry I could not make it to Ellis Island. I got home very late Saturday evening because of subway delays, and I would have faced the same on Sunday with woefully little sleep. So I attended the Brooklyn Book Festival, which is bigger and better every year, even in the rain. There were plenty of indoor venues and the crowds not too overwhelming.
Next year I will definitely attend "Broadway on Broadway." I was the naysayer of that event having tried to attend it many years ago and as at so many similar events not having been able to see or hear at all. But conditions have improved and Broadway has undergone renewal. I knew there were chairs and seating in Times Square, but I did not link it with the event or realize that they would have TV screens and good acoustics in this day and age. I'm glad you got to enjoy it, Andrea.
Now I have to go--school tomorrow, both SeniorLearn Latin and Spanish with the Brooklyn College retirees.
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Andrea,
I apologize. It was my fault about the shopping because I told Mary where to find Chico's and I guess you all did find it.
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Ginny and I met her at the Airport and she said it made her feel like "royalty" to be greeted by the Americans, holding a sign with her name on it
Yeah well she should have been there with us the time prior to her coming out, when first I then (because I got embarrassed) Andrea shouted GAY? GAY? At everybody who passed by who looked vaguely (I will admit Andrea's standards slipped a little, I mean I knew Gay wasn't 20 years old, and that she was not traveling with her husband, I mean really. Andrea was determined no soul should walk the exit from Customs unaccosted or feeling left out. One shudders to think what some people coming to the US for the first time might have thought?).
Anyway, finally when it did seem that we might be accosted for soliciting gay persons, Andrea changed to her last name but by then I expected the entire place to come down on my ears. What a hoot.
Having just gone thru Customs in Newark a couple of weeks before, I knew we could pitch a tent and have blintzes before we ever saw Gay.
But I think you can see from the remarks above the type of persons we had at this Gathering and it really just lifts you UP!
I have much more to say about everybody here, so glad you got home early Eloise and safely and you too Gay, what an exhausting trip that must have been, the both of you, our international stars, one French, one British!
Andrea 20 for 20? Who knew this? Is it for all the shows? Wouldn't have worked for Jerry Lee Lewis I betcha. So you liked The Fantastics presentation so much you went to see it? Love it. How bad was the rain? It sure poured where we were on Ellis Island.
Zulema, I do think the photos this year of our people are fine, and about 180 more to come. :)
Ella, so glad to see you here, do come back there are tons of great photos and stories yet to come!
Pedln, I'll add Grand Central Station to our list, tell us about it. You missed something not going to St. Patricks. I actually have the children's choir on tape, took a movie of it.
I'm, for my little slice of NYC for the day (and I hope to read 100 tomorrow from all of you) going to talk about our little trip to Ellis Island because for some reason it really resonated with me. I had never been there.
Here are again the Intrepids: left to right, Pedln, Joan R and Gay (Bow Belle) (http://seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/bookfests/EllisIsland500.jpg) standing on the windswept dock (note the waves) before rain/ boarding the ferry to Ellis Island. This is not the Circle Line Cruise Ship, it's a ferry but you could not have had nicer people manning the thing on the QEII.
I think Gay saw one of the Queens at the harbour, Mary, maybe? (the ship not a transvestite).
At any rate, you can't see Gay's packet of...what were they....fried cashews here. She's braver than I am (I wanted one of those NYC pretzels SO bad) she just bravely noshed and they were good, it was a festive quartet which boarded the ship before the storm.
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That, believe it or not, is NOT the water we had that day but instead the water of the Hudson for our Circle Line Cruise. Would you believe the water was so rough going TO Ellis Island my photos are blurred with the ship? And it started to rain. Now here we were, recreating the voyage of how many --as imperfectly as we did, the announcements were quite evocative-- 12 million people, and I must say it was pretty sobering. We first went to the Statue of Liberty,
(http://seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/bookfests/NYCstatue.jpg) and then around it to Ellis Island.
(http://seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/bookfests/NYCstatuemanhattan.jpg) and it started to rain so hard that I actually bought and gave away and could kill myself for doing that, a super little rain poncho with the statue of liberty on it for 3 bucks. And all around us a babel of languages, foreign languages, people speaking in all sorts of different tongues. Ship was actually heaving up and down like a surf board, I kid you not.
When we landed at the Statue of Liberty however, one could not help but notice the ramp was straight down, it was slick with rain and one of us having just broken her leg a year ago was not particularly eager to do it again. I really thought we should turn back. I tried to talk some into this.
No no everybody said, no no, and so we sallied forth, one of us with fear and trembling, and the staff was so helpful (don't tell ME the doggone gangplank did not rise UP in the air about 6 inches and slap back down over and over) but we made it! Then as we walked across a perfectly flat area, down went Gay, caught by Pedln from a total fall, but up she jumped black and blue and probably with a broken foot, and/ or knee, and said (in the immortal words of Monty Python's Holy Grail: "tis but a scratch."
That's Gay. She's the knight in that film totally. In fact the last time I saw her she was striking out to do some shopping on the last day.
So with people like that around how can ONE gripe and groan? Well, not TOO much?
So in we went. Pedln and Gay had relatives to look up, they got hooked up with a computer thing which will send them all the instructions. We walked in in the cold rain and thought lunch was in order but on the way stumbled first on a wonderful 30 minute film on the history of Ellis Island and THEN on the most gorgeous Christmas shop you ever saw, I mean it put Biltmore to shame and the most gorgeous gifts and expensive I ever saw and we had to seque out of that one in self defense into the dining hall, super food, mine was, but nowhere to sit so we went out on the covered porch, it was a tad windy and blustery but quite nice and you could see the boats. There must be a Big Ship thing coming up soon, there were a lot of sailboats.
The BIRDS the birds, a horror, people should not feed the birds, this couple to our left just left their plates and the BIRDS descended, good thing we were through it was Hitchcockian in the extreme. Big birds, pigeons and giant sea gulls, just ATTACKING the food. Where is Tippi Hedren when you need her?
So we escaped inside. We looked at one wing of many of why some people had come to America, it was pogroms, just awful, awful. The testimonies of the people who came for other reasons, it was quite moving. You need a day to do Ellis Island, a complete day, and you need the audio tapes so you can hear the oral testimonies, but none of us had that much time, so on we pressed. We saw the luggage displayed, how on earth did they carry it. They should give you a score card, how would YOU have done as an Immigrant? At this point I'm -10.
We saw the dormitories where they slept on these strange beds which could be raised during the day, very clever, actually, and we saw the Great Hall where they took in all of the people:
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Then we went upstairs (where the dormitories were) and saw the things they brought with them, some of the dresses with wasp waists and the books and jewelry, it was fascinating. It's a place you need to stay a long time.
We did not see the wall of 600,000 names as it was outside and it was pouring. I've decided to read more about this place and the exhibit I saw at the Museum of Natural History, I figure I saw these things, I'd like to Read More About It. There were tons of books but ones luggage was at the Pay and Display point so had to leave them behind both here and at the Museum, but I'm going back. I'm going to read up on it first, pick a sunny calm day and go back, I want to get in that Christmas shop again.
Then we got back to Battery Park and there was this:
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The taxi driver coming in told us there had been a ceremony there yesterday, (we went on 9/12) and as it turns out that ball was found in the wreckage of the Twin Towers, it was a sobering thing.
What I found different about New York, and this is just my subjective opinion, were the flags and the people. Outside my window (I had two) in the hotel were three large flags seen on distant rooftops, that's a first for me, I've never seen that before. I've got photos of that too.
The new subway cars (and every subway I took, and I took a lot of them) had new cars, have American flags on them.
I love the patriotism. New York is different. The man doing the commentary for the Circle Cruise lines mentioned 9/11 over and over. OUR Twin Towers.
To add to the spirit, every New Yorker I met was friendly, helpful, and kind. With the possible exception of the sidewalk salesman hollering out, "does anybody want to buy this stolen s**&?" hahahaha Which to me is perfect NYC.
But everybody is kind. Gone are the jaded blase rude New Yorkers, or if they aren't gone, I didn't encounter them, and I'll tell you, I loved it. NYC shone. I can't think of anything better they could do to enhance their being THE tourist destination of the world. I loved the entire experience. Every person you met was kind, with the possible exception of the Chinese Ninja Limo Driver who I thought was attacking Ann, we'll have to let her tell that one. :)
Boy did we limo! hahahahaa There are advantages in numbers. BOY did we go in style.
Let's write down our memories while we still have them of the fun, odd, funny and dear moments, because there were a lot of them. Look in the heading at the faces and they will tell you the story.
More anon... oh...and yes, I figure I would have made it about 4 minutes as an Immigrant, and have a tremendous respect for them as a result. I have to read more and go back and NEXT TIME we go to NYC we must do the Tenement Museum.
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Lucy we were posting together, I'm amazed you're still standing! Tell us about the Brooklyn Book Fair, did you see any authors you had heard of? Who did you see? What was the weather like? I didn't get to go, trying to drown self going to Ellis Island and all?
I am so glad so many of you enjoyed the Met. More coming up on it later.
Thank you Lucy for bringing your two friends, I did so enjoy Vivian and it was very kind of you and your other friend, the teacher of knitting, what was her name again? to take me thru the labyrinth of the subway, she even gave me a swipe on her card. I hope she will come in and discuss some books with us.
It was a good thing, it really was, it was extraordinary. I think we should do NYC every year, I hate to say that but how much better can it get? Of course there's the Getty Mansion on the west coast. hmmmm
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I went with Ginny to see The Lion King and it was my first Broadway show, what a show that is. First off the story is an old time favourite but only in New York can you see what they can do with it. The sets and costumes were simply spectacular, unforgettable. The theatre was packed with more adults than children who were all mesmerized and so was I, I was simply blown away with the talent of every character on stage, the dancing and singing and the music was simply perfect and afterwards we went to finish the evening at the revolving lounge of the Marquis Hotel across the street from the theatre.
After Sarabath High Tea around 6:30 pm about 7 or 8 of us decided to walk from there to St. Patrick’s Cathedral for the 9/11 commemorative concert. The streets were packed and I tried to keep up with Andy, our marathon runner, I didn’t want to loose track of her because of the crowd, but as expected we became separated at one point and when we reached St. Patrick’s, there were only three of us but we got together again there. We went in and sat down in the back and Andy, Mary and Ann decided to move forward to be closer to the front to get a closer look. It was dark when the concert ended and New York streets come alive at night when it’s hard to see one foot ahead of you because of all the people, but we made it back all in one piece. Good thing I always had a good night's sleep because days were so busy.
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Eloise- YOU my friend, are no slouch when it comes to being a marathon runner. Good grief, I had to keep up with you when we walked back to the Leo house after our visit to the Chelsea Market. I am so happy that you enjoyed your play, it is so exciting to be a part of that.
Wait until we tell everyone of our Million Dollar Quartet evening where poor Gay almost had a heart attack as she realized she was sitting in the SAME row- the same row as Bill Clinton, Chelsea, new hubby and 10+ secret service guys. She became absolutely unglued. HE is her hero and she wasn't about to move out of that line outside the doors, after the performance. She was going to get a closer look and there she planted herself. It was such fun to watch our visitors from another country. I loved it! I an't say enough about this guy that played Jerry Lee Lewis that night. He is top notch musician and performer. He really looked and sounded like Jerry Lee did years ago. Poor Jerry Lee was at the theatre for the first viewing of his "life" done by this kid and he did sing d play a bit before the closing of the show. He is old, decrepit and does not look healthy. Of course beating up on his body (and sou) all of those years had to take its toll. Wonderful music.
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It looks like you had such a marvelous time! I wanted so badly to be able to join you all. And what a beautiful group of ladies! Perhaps the next time you meet I can attend. (I missed the last one, too, darn it!)
I feel sure I should report you all, as it seems it ought to be against the law to have so much fun!!! Bless you all for your adventurous spirits!
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It is such a pleasure to read about all the wonderful things you did and experienced in NYC. It sounds fantastic and it clearly was. I wish I could have been there to meet you and share in the fun and adventure but, alas, my traveling days are behind me. That is why I am grateful for your vivid, informative, funny reports. Please keep them coming!
Thank you all.
Ginny, we never saw Ellis Island. When we arrived in Hoboken, N.J., in the summer of 1954, the facility had been closed.
Traude
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Gosh, when did you all SLEEP? What an adventure.
Eloise, I forget whether you are in Montreal or Toronto. Did you take the Adirondack? I've been wanting to take the train up along the Hudson and stop here and there along the way. The other train trip I want to take is the Silver Star (or Meteor) down to Savannah, GA.
The lecture at the Met sounds very interesting. Love the photos, especially the two group pix.
On of these days I might get brave and visit NYC. I've been a bit afraid of it ever since I was a little girl. I was very disappointed to find that the streets weren't lined with gold and glitter. We had gone up to get grandma when she disembarked off the Queen Mary. I saw a seedy area of NY. Grandma took passage in the lowest of low decks where there weren't proper rooms or floors. I remember the floor was wooden planks laid down a narrow passage. I never got a look at the rooms.
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Traude, so glad to see you here. I think Ellis Island closed in something like 1924. It opened in 1892, somebody check those dates. Prior to that and afterwards, people landed elsewhere.
But 12 million immigrants came thru Ellis Island. Tell us about landing in Hoboken!
Margie, you need to come with us next time. What memories you have! You and I will go back out to Ellis Island. On a clear, sunny day. hahahaa.
I have to say it, we do NYC well. We really did. NYC did itself well. The weather was spectacular with the exception of that one day, and note that we all branched out and did Ellis Island, the Broadway on Broadway and the Brooklyn Book Fair on that day.
We are admirably set up to do NYC, so long as Lucy holds out, bless her heart. hahaaa
Eloise I did not know that was your first Broadway show! What a trooper Eloise is, and I've got a photo to prove it. Oh my gosh, so much did we pack in those few days, but the schedule was good, too, allowing for lots of time off or individual time, it was ....I'm sorry...it was perfect, but it's DUE to all of those who went.
The Lion King was spectacular, it was the 4th time I've seen it, they've changed it? They've changed a good bit of it, especially the second half, it's almost Japanese in concept. The theater was packed, I saw no empty seats. They've removed one of my favorite songs from the first bit, The Morning Report, but I've been singing the others ever since I saw it. What a good sport Eloise is, and how I enjoyed her spirit. We tried to do a pre theater dinner at the revolving restaurant, no, they did not open till 5:30 and the show was at 6:30. Ok, the Marquis recommended J's next door, no no no. NO. no no no.
Packed. No no no. I tried (in my endless quest for the chopped chicken liver of my youth) the chopped chicken livers, a pate with eggs. It was Ok I guess, if you like pate (I don't), and Eloise gamely tried some, (ELOISE, the FRENCH CHEF) but the tuna melt? Please.
I sat there thinking oh dear this is not the kind of evening I had envisioned for Eloise, but then she said she did not care for rock and roll, all those drums, and I totally panicked (the Lion King? Drums?) so we, ini our position right at the front, right in front of the speakers, at one point when the drums threatened to carry us off, I turned to say well now, how about the drums and she was totally transported, I wish I had a photo of her face, and enjoying it tremendously, as you see above, so it was a total hit, and The Circle of Life has been running thru my head ever since.
Ann said she thought that was one of the last performances and it's closing!!! I hope not so, it was a tremendously enjoyable evening out, and it made up for the hidjous dinner, and I will never see it again if not on the aisle.
Jerry Lee Lewis as Andrea says, came out on the stage. Gay did not notice, she was taken up with Bill Clinton down her row as you see hahaha but I had seen him on TV not a couple of months ago, it was a different man who came out on the stage, bent over like I am, moving slowly as he sat at the piano. He will be 75 on the 29th of September.
The young man who played him, Levi Kreis, is about the most talented person I have ever seen and was the perfect combination of deference and respect, it was a beautiful thing. People screamed and yelled, a nice tribute to Jerry Lee Lewis in his long and often turbulent life.
Then he played like a ball of fire, and sang in a 30 year old voice, and the house erupted again. He played two songs with the cast on the stage joining in. Then an awkward silence fell. The audience demanded more. obviously they had not prepared anything more. Jerry Lee Lewis said, "What we goin' do now?" Another silence fell. The young woman in the cast looked dismayed, everybody froze. This is Broadway, live, in the moment. The reason people come to Broadway.
A man I had not noticed previously on stage, a small aging man with a guitar, standing amongst the young cast lined up, seemed to say something amid the many suggestions hollered from the audience. The man next to me said he was Jerry Lee Lewis's accompanist of 50 years.
Turning to the piano again. Lewis belted out another song perfectly in the old style and left to a thunderous ovation.
As we exited the theater we were met in the place on the left we had arranged to meet a phalanx of police making people move back. You'd have thought the queen was coming. I thought it was Jerry Lee Lewis. I wanted to see him leave. BACK BACK BACK, move back. We were packed like sardines. Who IS it? There's a car waiting, is it two cars? Who IS it? Press everywhere.
Bill Clinton somebody says, Bill Clinton is in the audience. WHO? BILL Clinton, I say? Yes. Without thinking I said Who Cares? This brought up a roar from some of the bystanders, all of whom obviously cared.
I was trapped, could not move. Mob rule. As you can see here (here is a photo of Bill Clinton, do you like his suit?)(http://seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/bookfests/NYCbillclinton.jpg) Yes, people rushed ahead of me (I was first in line) to take his photo or shout out a greeting. He seemed to pause and wave, who knows? Who, I repeat, cares? But I have to feel sorry for the poor guy, he can't even go out to see a show without causing a riot even now. What a life. You can see how something like that would go to any person's head.
This is what makes the Paris Hiltons and Kardashians of the world.
More to come, this was our requisite "celebrity" viewing for the trip. Gay will have to tell us IF she knew Bill Clinton was down the row from her at the time, and what it was like. :)
Eloise, the Good Sport of the Year, and I took in the lights of the city at the Marquis revolving restaurant after the show, these are both good so I'm putting them both in:
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And enjoyed the lights:
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Prior to the Dinner at the Awful Restaurant, we took in Times Square from the non revolving Marquis Lounge: I can never get enough of these views:
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I love these views. The Marquis should hire me as advertising consultant, the cost of this view was the price of a soda. :)
When they built the Mariott Marquis, they tore down an old Broadway Theater, and the howls went up across the city. 42nd street was a sink hole of prostitution and girly shows and Disney made it clean again (again this is a subjective opinion) with its first show (was it Lion King?) and redoing the old theater. You can take tours of the old theater backstage and see what they did. They made it a family destination again. Even tho the Mariott Marquis built a theater INTO the hotel, people still griped. I think they should stop. :)
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What a time you had - with Bill Clinton to boot!
Lovely photos of Eloise and the view - the group photos are great too but I'm guessing who's who - though some are familiar from the avatars.
Please keep the posts coming - this will be the closest I get to NYC - like Traude my travelling days are done.
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Hello to my fellow travelers plus others who will enjoy the descriptions of our travels in the Big Apple! And we have now had three huge bites and are going for the whole apple in the future.
Thanks to all who helped us accomplish an outstanding visit. First of all to Ginny who is undaunted by NYC and just jumps right in to see that we all have a wonderful time. Her beautiful description of the Cubiculum and Achilles Chariot at the Met kept Mary and I in step with the rest of the crew. I don't remember how we got lost.
And to Lucy, who not only took us on a Circle Line Cruise but also kept us so neatly aware of all the things the city had to offer BEFORE we even left our homes to travel. And Zulema who added to Lucy's knowledge along with Janet, another of Lucy's friends, who knew some interesting things not mentioned by our cruise captain. Although he did cover most sights along the Hudson River with much aplomb!
To Pedl'n who intrduced us to the High Line Park, newest park in NYC, crafted from the old High Line railroad trail which was built and opened during the depression or just before.
To Alf who played Nurse Ratchet in comedy drag! The woman should be on Comedy Central! What a hoot!
Mary and I spent a delightful day with Eloise, eating our way across town. When I saw the Plaza Hotel just waiting for us to enter, I was mesmerized. Seeing Eloise's name up in bright letters advertising a gift shop, we had to go see it. Mary took a picture of our Eloise with the sign behind her saying, "Eloise Lives at the Plaza" which is a title of an old book about a little girl who did live in the hotel. The gift shop was totally pink and Eloisey. Outrageous prices but great fun. We peaked in at the Palm Court restaurant just for fun.
And to all of you who joined us and added so much to the tours and concerts
Each of our trips have shown us that one can never see it all in a lifetime. With the wonderful New Yorkers plus many of the tourists, we had little trouble touring this wonderful magic city. And it is magic! I haven't quite gotten it out of my system and am definitely not on the right page yet. When I read these posts about the trip I am right back there laughing and talking and racing to keep up. Well you know from what has been posted here.
There was so much but I will add the day everyone said goodbye in the Leo's Cafe. Monday, the 12th!
Mary and I subwayed up to to 87th to get a good look at the Guggenheim Art Museum.
On the way, Mary just had to stop at Williams&Sonoma to ask about their classes which are offered all around the world. She was interested in finding one in NC. We then spent awhile sitting on the floor reading their cookbooks while their resident chef told us all about the classes which we couldn't attend since we don't live there!!. She even took our email addresses for some reason. Don't ask me why, I forget!
We finally got to the Guggenheim where we found many folks inside taking pictures of that spiraling walkway up to the top. Actually we weren't going to see the art, just Frank Lloyd Wright's architecture. I did buy a few souvenirs in the gift shop. Wonderful photos!
Suddenly struck by hunger, we walked around in circles, finally stepped into a wine shop where a nice gentleman recommended a French place which we never found. But, we did find "Centolire"(is that French?) and its wonderful menu with the most delicious Bread Pudding for dessert. We planned to return later to get another serving of that pudding but the storm gods had other ideas.
Off we went to walk across Central Park, view the Jackie Onassis Reservoir where Mary kept insisting it was going to storm. No, no said I. The sun is shining and that dark sky is too far away. On we went, deeper into the park when the rain hit plus the thunder and the lightening and there we were walking among all those tall trees! We hurried across Central Park West Ave to the Natural History Museum and sat on the covered steps for awhile with many rain soaked folks.
Not wanting to return to the Leo yet, we decided we would brave the rain and walk to Central Park South to eat. We were on 79th St! As the rain tried to drown us, the bicycle rickshaw men spotted our plight and offered rides to our destination for $35, $25 and finally $10 from a sweet young man named Jim, who was from Turkey.
Now its pouring and the wind is whipping us around like leaves so we boarded. He zipped us inside the cart and took off, battling the weather and the wind. With the wind trying to tear his poncho asunder as he swerved back and forth in traffic, he took a short cut into the park and out onto 59th St(Central Park South) 20 blocks away. We did tip him big time and entered Mickey Mantle's Sports Bar where we had had lunch with Eloise on Saturday. Sloshing through the restaurant, we gratefully sat on their offered napkins(8) and had pie and a Kahlua and Creme. Are we eating and drinking too many carbs here??
Planning to return to the hotel, we bussed to 23rd where I just had to show Mary Eately! Another hour of pure joy!
Later, in our room, Mary and I moaning about our aching feet, I decided to fill the bathtub and soak mine. Reaching for the drain plug, I fell in! Mary rescued me so we sat on the side of the tub, and soaked our feet together and laughing about our day! A perfect ending to a perfect day!
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September 8-12, 2010
We Came, We Saw, We Conquered! We're BAACK!
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Author's Tea at Sarabeth's on Central Park South:
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Front row, seated: Authors Bruce Frankel and Maryann McFadden
Left to right (scroll sideways to see everybody):
Mary, Tom (Maryann's friend), Eloise, Judy's friend Liz, Joan R, Zulema, Pedln (hiding), Ann, Judy (Pedln's daughter) Andrea, Meghan (Joan R's daughter) Gay, Lucy's friend, Vivian,, Deb (Maryann's friend), Lucy, Ginny. Not shown: Patrick, Maryann's husband.
Morning at the Met: at the Metropolitan Museum of Art's American Wing
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Left to right: Lucy Ginny, Mary (in back) Zulema, Andrea (ALF), Ann, Vivian, Meghan (JoanR's daughter), Eloise, Joan R, Gay (Bow Belle), Pedln.
Oh I am green with envy! What a time you had. Bill Clinton was and is mobbed here also. He has been here quite few times to speak and did us a great honour when as President he spent a few days here in NZ ( first President to do so you have no idea what goodwill towards the US this resulted in) My daughter has a friend with a handmade chocolate shop and cafe. She has a photo of Bill and her on the wall. Bill strolled in the shopping village with Chelsea and spoke to many people on his walk. He had coffee and bought some chocolates in my daughters friends shop. So never think a President is wasting time in travelling to visit foreign shores.
I would love to see the Lion King show. I love African music and also drums.
I am not a big city fan but to see the art galleries and the shows available in a huge City like NY would be very tempting. I think I would rather go to NY than Los Angeles.
Carolyn
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Soiree in NYC. - was a 'commuter' (I live in Brooklyn,NY) - attended (3) events - Metropolitan Museum, Sarah Beth, Bridge Cafe - enjoyed the events and the company - next year??? intend to attend more functions
Vivian
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Frybabe, yes I live in Montreal and I took the Adirondak. I had another idea of what the trip would be like, but I loved the scenery on that trip. You go through much of the same scenery as here in Quebec, lots of green vegetation and we passed by lakes and rivers. It felt like the train was following an old Indian trail. We stopped at several towns to let people off and a few coming on board but our car was only for passengers going to New York Penn Station.
At the border on the way down we were stopped for a long time, over an hour and 2 Border Guards escorted a young man in handcuffs. We stopped in Albany for 20 minutes but other towns only 2 or 3 minutes.
I had a good book to keep me entertained and I even had a little nap. But it’s a long ride, about 10 hours.
No need to be afraid of NYC. I felt safe walking alone from Times Square to the hotel. The streets are wide and clean and the people friendly and helpful. Next time I hope to spend some time in Central Park.
Joan and Meg and I went to the High Line Park and then to the 8th street Fair. Too many tempting things to buy but I didn’t buy anything.
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I am waiting to hear about those who live in NY. Yes I read in here often. Been watching the news all morning. Your time in NY sounds great and I know it was :)
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I just wonder if anyone had considered Boston as a location for another "soiree"? Would there be anything similar to The Leo for accommodations? I think there would be a lot to see there, although not near as much as NYC.
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Oh, I would love to go to Boston with a group for a few days. I haven't been there since the 70's and that was more in Cambridge for a conference and driving around getting lost. So I would love a train ride and to see the museums and the swan boats and all the historic churches and the State House and so much more! Maybe in a couple of years? Don't wait too long.
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Hi Zulema and Tomereader1, I'm with you, I do hope a trip to Boston could be planned in the
future, my son lives a hour away and we just love going into Boston whenever we can. Fran
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I would love to go Boston--went there a few times as a child and since then only briefly. I live in New York, Rockaway Beach, Queens, one of the last stops on the A train, so I also "commute" to Manhattan. Lucy
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Hi Gay,
I see from reading the posts that you made it home and are resting up for a day or two. It was a real privledge getting to meet you in NYC. You made our trip special! Along with our other out of U.S. member!
Eloise,
Your train trip sounds delightful and so full of the NE scenery. I wonder if one could take the train from a smaller town north of NYC to Montreal to see the leaves of Fall, instead of driving up there with the rest of the world in tow. Wouldn't that be nice? What was the name of your train and is it an American or Canadian train line?
JoanR,
Hope you and Meg enjoyed sharing NYC with us "foreigners" and thanks for all your help with directions. Hope everything is well at home. I loved the "Evensong" at St Thomas on Sunday. 'Twas a perfect ending to a busy day. And of course, that quick trip through "Eatery" after our bus ride was fun. And then it was stop for dinner at one of Andrea's suggestions, "East on 8th", where she and Gay joined you and Pedl'n and me with Mary sliding into home plate 30 minutes later. Shopping again!
Ginny
Your pictures that you have shared are "mahhvelous, darling!" Love the intrepids three! And the admitting hall at Ellis Island. I don't remember going upstairs when we are there in '98 but it did take us all day to see it.
Doesn't Eloise look "younger than spring time" with that charming and magic smile? I'm so glad she got to see "Lion King"! I don't know where I heard about it closing after that Sunday night but I must have misunderstood that rumor. ;)
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For anyone interested in the Adirondack, here is Amtrak's route description and schedule. As Eloise noted, it is not an express train it makes several stops along the way. You don't have to go into NYC to hop on board. Lots of gorgeous scenery along the way and lots of history. Also, check out the "Deals" section. It has 20% off on NY trains until the end of May next year. The Adirondack is included. If you want to head west through wine country and the Finger Lakes, there are the Maple Leaf that terminates in Toronto and the Empire Service that ends at Niagara Falls.
http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/ContentServer?c=AM_Route_C&pagename=am/Layout&cid=1241245664917
So far, I haven't been able to get George interested. He would rather drive than deal with having to rent a car here and there to get to the historic sites that are close but not close enough to walk. That's his excuse. Of course, he hasn't volunteered to do the driving. For myself, I would rather take the train. It's much more relaxing.
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My only debate would be where to board away from NYC so we could leave our car which we will have spent 10 hours driving to get to the train stop. I think I will just drive south in my state of Ohio, down where the leaves and state parks are many and then over into the eastern half of WV or maybe stop to visit with a friend in Charleston, WV. Its so much shorter and home is only at most 6 hours away. I think I agree with George.
We rode the Rocky Mtn Express and the Canadian train from Vancouver to Toronto in 2000 and loved the trip but we had a suite and could come and go at will. I had no idea how vast Canada is and rich with farms plus beautiful mountains. Ralph spent most of his time reading while I socialized up in the skylight car. We were on a Grand Circle tour which are the best for us seniors supposedly. We had most late afternoons free. We did have a wonderful time and our guide was so knowledgeable about all history. And they took care of our bags,too. From train stop to room and back to the train the next day. Never had a problem. Never lifted a bag!
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Ann, I took Amtrak that runs Montreal to New York via Adirondacks. Beautiful scenery along lakes and rivers and come Fall I really think the colors are just as nice North of the US. They come earlier here, in fact we are just about to get them, it's that cold, some parts just above freezing. We never know the exact time though. As for leaving your car, I will tell you what I did when I went to the Bash in the US, I left it in a Motel parking and I gave them my car keys. It stayed there for 4 days and didn't cost me much. They love to see a car parked in their lot especially when it is slow season.
I took the train to Vancouver in the 70s, it took 4 days because of some flood in Saskatchewan. Lovely scenery all the way.
I always wanted to go to Boston too but is there a hotel there as low cost and centrally located as the Leo is what I would examine.
Fall colors here some years are so spectacular, all the hills are a deep purple, red, green, yellow, etc. You have to catch them at the right time and they only last a few days to one or two weeks, that's all.
Hello Ginger, is that really you? What fun we had at all the gatherings we went to you and I. How are you?
My computer is full of glitches and I might have to reformat it soon. I hope I can fix them, ortherwise it goes for repairs.
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That was one of my first questions, Eloise...is there a hotel with all the benefits of The Leo, in Boston? I sincerely doubt it but perhaps our experienced travelers can let us know that.
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Hi Eloise, Have many fond memories of bashes. You and I sure got around :)
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Ginny: Your account of your visit to NYC in your Post #477 on September 16, 2010, is marvelous. The photo you took of Times Square is amazingly reminiscent of Monet's painting of rue Montargueil, the one with all the colorful flags lining the street.
I believe you must be at least three people or at the very least, a whirling dervish, else it is impossible to account for your being here and there, teaching Latin, travel writing (eat your heart out, Paul Theroux), participating in conferences and communicating constantly with all of us. However you manage to do it, thank you, thank you. hidaroupe
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I have just spent - oh, I don't know how long because I lost track of time - reading about the fabulous soiree in NYC. How this mid/southwesterner wishes she could have such an experience with such knowledgeable people! Alas, my travelling days are also over.
I think the only one of you I've met personally is Eloise, who was a fabulous hostess in Montreal for a large group from the old SeniorNet. Hi, Eloise!
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This is such a hoot reading of your adventures! Thanks for sharing your fun! Please caption all the picstures with names, so we know who we are looking at. You are an energetic group........Jean
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Those of you who went to Ellis Island, and others, might enjoy Nevada Barr's mystery set on Statue of Liberty park I think it was "Liberty Falling" ..........Jean
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GINGEE- My goodness, it seems forever since we have heard from hyou. We spoke about you on our trip, remembering the manytrips that we have made together.
My fellow soiree'ers- we make it look easy, don't we? You ladies that would like to go to Boston must consider the amount of time it would take you to set this up. What would you schedule for the "bookies?" How would you accommodate our Latin students ? It is not an easy job to schedule these "bashes" as it takes months and months of planning. I wish that I knew someone on the west coast- if I had my tuthers I would like to go to the west coast and give our folks over there, who have been in our book discussions for years a chance to meet and greet us. Is anyone over there on the west coast interested? If so-let me know. There is so much to see in New York that we've not yet seen. If we don't go to NY or to the west coast next year, I would love to go back to the National Book Festival in DC.
I miss you all. PatW sends her love to ALL. Ginny and I hated to leave her but she is doing very well with her recovery.
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I am so glad everybody is enjoying the photos and memories, there are a LOT more to come (hidaroupe :) I like that photo too, and kept wondering what it reminded me of! ). We are just getting started so stay tuned, some great stuff coming up.
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So great, Ginny and Alf, that you went to Ill. to visit PatWest - I'm sure that it did wonders for her morale. We're all praying for a full recovery for her.
I was thinking about the fact that our far western folks miss out on the Soirees in the east. How about simultaneous functions - one on the west coast and one on the east so that everyone would be covered?? There would be tons of information to exchange!!!!
I can't begin to tell you how much I enjoyed our Soiree in NY - it's just beyond words. It worked so well with everyone attending the major functions and then fanning out to other delights and re-convening again.
I must have been obsessed with Eataly - I think I enticed various folks into it about 3 times! Oh well, it was on the way to the Leo House. Our last night's dinner at that bistro on23rd st. was such fun - one funny story after another - plus the food was good!
We ARE going back next year, right???? I just have to see all of you again! How can we get Gay back from across the pond, as they say? She's such a good sport and good company.
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Alf check your personal emails for two from me as your email is not working for me.
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I am so glad to hear about Pat W mending. I didn't know Andrea and Ginny went to see her. You are angels. There must be a lot happening that I am not aware of.
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I am so relieved to have news that Pat West is mending.
I too would just love to see the West coast that I have only seen twice before donkies years ago. As you say Andy it takes months of preparation to do it, the Montreal Bash started two years before the event.
JoanR, it was so enjoyable to spend some time with you and Meg for breakfast and shopping on Saturday, it reminded me of our Street Fair, but our streets are so much narrower. Although I had seen movies about New York the streets are so wide compared to downtown Montreal. One street in Quebec city is so narrow you can almost touch the houses on each side.
I was standing in front of the Marquee Hotel in Times Square waiting for "the girls" who were going to the Million Dollar Quartet. While waiting I was watching the huge screen in front of me and a young woman came on and she was taking pictures of the crowd standing there watching the screen. I didn't think I would be included in the picture because I was standing too far back, but I decided to try moving a bit sideways to see and sure enough I was in the picture she took, so I moved back further. What they can do today is astounding. Times Square is such an exciting place that you can just stand there taking in all the movement and excitement of people going to the theatre and going to and from places. I felt like a country girl going to the big city for the first time.
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Well, Boston was just an idea I had. I guess we don't have any members who live there, right?
I was telling my friend about the Soiree, and the previous SL trip(s) and she's gung ho for the next one. I promise, I am going to make one of these trips, because you all just have too much fun! (Remind me again about the one you guys had at the beach house.)
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Sitting in another nice hotel tonight as Ralph and I travel to Ithaca. We are taking our time and the weather is just beautiful!
JoanR, I have forgotten the name info that I got from you. Could you email to me, your maiden name and David's full name. Remember our daughter works at Telluride House.
Andy,
Your book is wending its way to you and should be there Saturday or Monday.
Ginny,
The check is in the mail and your Manhattan map. Thanks for the loan. It was a big help. And, I did find mine finally.
Gingee,
Is that you? Haven't heard from you in ages and its so nice to see you hear.
That's all for now. My big bed in our huge room at a Hampton Inn beckons.
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Hi Ann, Yes it is me :). Would have liked to be with all in NY but well just don't travel any more. I think of you and Ella often as I use the Gahanna cups and senior net cups often.I have the car that Pat W gave to all of us and keep my senior net pen in it and a Rose Rock from the Neb and Oklahome gals. I charish all my memories of so many senior net and senior net bookies gathering. Love reading all about your trips now to.
Love to all, Ginger Wright ---Gingee :)
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Have just found this section, after a little (!!) help from Joan. Thanks, Joan.
I am truly green with envy reading all about the fun you had. Great, however, to put faces to names at last. You are all so photogenic!
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Hi, Maryemm - happy to see that you made it over here. Maybe we will see you in some of the book discussions too! I'm still struggling with Latin - it's an addiction. Pete used to be in our class and he's been missed.
Bowbelle (Gay) from your side of the water came to NY and we enjoyed her company so much - a really good sport and has a great sense of humor.
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I know it, how good to see you all here, we're just getting started, but some of us are swamped in other areas and the fixing of photos, etc., takes a long time but we've got no end of great stuff coming, our cruise, our
Authors Luncheon, and all kinds of great excursions yet to be heard from. Stay tuned!
I came IN to say something you won't hear everywhere: the Leo House called me yesterday, it was the Housekeeper and she said money had been found in my room. They thought I had been there last week (I wasn't) so they waited this long to contact me, but I said well I did leave something for the maid, she said no, MONEY has been found in the room. So I said how much? And it was $76.26 (people kept giving me money for things in batches, and those who paid for the photo of the cruise, never fear, I've got your names taped to the computer, once the grapes etc. get done I'm on it), but anyway they called to say it had been found in the sheets, apparently I was cleaning out my purse (apparently I need to) and they wanted to return it.
Now really. Have you ever? I still smart over my nice blouse which I left in a fancy hotel in Albuquerque which never turned up.
THAT's the Leo House! More coming, maybe I can catch a break in the grape customers before My Number One Boy arrives for his Jammie PartAY tonight. They said he's been packed for days. Gammie needs to do something VERY special tonight. :)
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Ginny, sounds like you are a busy as ever, busier, even. Hope the party goes well.
I was telling my Sister about the NYC trip. She volunteered to come along with me the next time. She loves NYC. Any opportunity to go, and she is there.
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Wow ginny, that is amazing isn't it? It was probably the money that you collected at breakfast on the last day. Everyone was handing you money for their share of the taxi to the soiree at Sarabeths that you provided and for the taxis to and from Ellis Island points. You were shoving it in the outside of your purse. EEEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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Hey, Ginny,
Did you get my check for Sarabeth's yet? And your map??
Andrea,
Has your book arrived yet??
I am off to Tuegannock Falls for a short walk with our daughter.
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Ginny, how lovely of the Leo House! Your Albuquerque experience reminded me about mine with this inn in Portland, Ore, where I was just before our Soiree. It was extremely expensive ($420 for 2 nights, one room) but we had to stay there for a reunion and festivities. I left a nightgown and they have not found it, but if they had, they would charge $10. plus the cost of postage to send it. And they have written repeatedly asking if I would write a review. I just might, too.
My California cousins all stay at the Leo when they come to NYC. It is definitely special.
Zulema
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good morning !
we are in for a treat today with some more sunny and warm weather!
I want to echo just what a lovely hotel the Leo was. The majority of the staff seemed so friendly and happy!
It shows how efficient they are that they even knew which room the sheets had come from
with regard to the money that ginny mislaid!
I too on my first morning left my purse (pocket book?) with my money and credit cards in it in the dining room. It was returned to me by the housekeeper to whom I had to prove my identity and then i had to sign. I love people being so efficient like that! and honest!
What I also liked was in the waiting area there were a couple of printed sheets of wisdom left for us to read. One was about trying to remember that despite the speedy pace of life on the outside of our bodies the inner life still moved at the same unhurried pace that it always had and that we do ourselves an injustice when we try to hurry up our inner feelings! so true!
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Ginny, that is one for the books -- $76 in the sheets. Really unbelievable and says a lot about the Leo and what it has to offer. The girls asked if I would recommend it – absolutely.
Let’s go back next year. I know I get there often, but being with SeniorLearn friends makes it so special.
JoanR, I was so glad to meet Meg, and I really enjoyed going to dinner and the movies with the two of you. Believe it or not, we managed to pick a foreign film that has not yet made it Netflix.
Any regrets – I’m sorry to have missed the St. Patrick’s concert, but loved seeing Grand Central Station instead. That’s a truly awesome place, huge, with those wonderful constellations on the ceiling. The girls and I visited the Oyster Bar there, established 1913, to enjoy fried clams and chowder. And I’m sorry not to have gone shopping with Mary. I think I would have picked up some real pointers there. ;D
I had a great week with my girls, and have barely been home a week, still going through mail and playing catch-up with Latin. We did spend one day going up the Hudson, visited the Storm King Art Center – 500 acres of fields and hills with hugh outstanding outdoor sculpture, including works by Calder and Henry Moore. It was their 50th Anniversary.
New Yorkers, Lucy, Vivian, Zulema, Janet, and JoanR – I hope you and your homes and trees are all okay and you escaped the tornado that went through parts of NY, especially Brooklyn and Queens. Judy was riding her bike home from work, over the Brooklyn Bridge and said it all got to a point where the wind was so strong she could not keep the bike upright, took refuge in a fire station. The next morning we went to Prospect Park – Frederick Olmsted’s labor of love, and oh, so many trees and branches down. (That was after we visited the TOW Pound – never mind why – which protects its employees with thick bulletproof glass.)
Lucy, I thought of you often, as one day we made our way, slowly, over to picnic at Rockaway Beach, with many stops along the way, Coney Island, Brighton Beach, and even Greenberg Cemetary –Brooklyn’s highest point, with yet another wonderful view of the Statue of Liberty.
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Pedln- no, no no!!! You do not wish to shop with Mary. Trust me. She's a dynamic shopper and never stays still. No, no. Let's find a quiet bench to sit on under a big, old tree in Central Park and read poetry, while Mary shops. ;D
Ann- thank you, my book came yesterday. I appreciate it.
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Gosh didn't it all go well? And I'm really excited to see so many people say they are up for another one, in NYC or even on the west coast, who says we can't do two?
The local cruise dealer has a special in the paper, $189, 4 days Bahamas Cruise all inclusive except for the airfare, if you require it, that even beats the Leo. I like the idea of branching out and doing different things but I'm always going to be in NYC in the fall, too, if I can manage to stagger there, that is.
How lucky we are with the people who went. This is one Gathering where you could not GET a photo of somebody frowning or sulking or looking upset, what a ball.
We've been busy since we got back but I hear there are a lot more photos and memories to come, so let's get rolling again!!
First up, the Magical Mystery Tour which gave free face lifts to all who went! I am speaking of the(http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/Cruise500.jpg) Circle Line Cruise of NYC, set up by Lucy and a total smash. First they had to take our photo. I won't say the girl had an instant grudge against moi, but why is moi the only person here with something in her teeth? Hmmm?
Eloise is fearless, the wind was howling, it was cold, threatening rain, alternating with blistering sun, everybody ran for the stairs to sit out under the burning sun/ wind/ possible rain. Yours truly and some other intelligent souls sat below but Eloise, not content with blowing away topside, came below and did the same.
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I just loved the spirit of every single person on this trip. Like Rick Steves advertises:" no Grumps!" He, trust me, would KILL for our stalwart group!
But we started out with dinner Wednesday night, our traditional welcome dinner, at the Bridge Cafe, Fraunces Tavern being closed for new management. I don't know how Ann finds these places, you do know she was formerly a travel agent? Well anyway there it was below the Bridge (which bridge, does anybody know?) Yes there it was all right.
Four of us arrived coming late, having waited for Pedln to get to the hotel, which turned out well since Gay decided to meander thru the Customs as mentioned previously, so we were all glad for a rest for a bit before leaving.
But what's this? All the Philly Girl's senses were on high alert, we descend in bright daylight to this...er....ah...place beneath the bridge struts, er...
Neighborhood looks a bit...er....
No MACE on hand.
Er...
Now if you notice, two of the ladies, and those would be those from NY and Philadelphia, respectively, are clutching their MACE-less purses in semi desperation?
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The photo here of us outside the restaurant was taken by the owner of the Bridge Cafe and a nicer more reassuring man you never met. He was outside spiffing up the building and welcomed us profusely. He seemed delighted to see us and pretty soon we were too.
In we went and soon all our group came, a nice table over to the side, totally empty restaurant. I thought ah well he's a nice man and the company is good and the atmosphere was really neat and you know what?
By the time we got started the place was SRO, it's obviously the place to be in NYC, it was totally full. NEVER did they hurry us or act as if perhaps we might actually vacate that table for somebody else, and I'm telling you, there WERE no other seats the entire night. And the food was excellent, really good. I'm definitely going back there!
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We had a great first night dinner and I did so enjoy getting to talk to everybody there, we were off to a super start!
Then the owner knew of a start up apparently limo service run by Chinese? And two magic limos appeared at the door at impossibly low prices, in fact, we all got so used to paying 3 or 4 bucks apiece to go anywhere in style that we took them constantly.
However one of the drivers attacked Ann, but I'll let her tell it, it seems to be a thing with that company, but as you'll soon see we came to an instant understanding going to the Met (everybody thought why not get them again, we can tie Ann to the roof this time, and they can pretend she's not there :) ), and I hear Mary got in a fracas with a street vendor about Fresh Fish, I hope somebody will tell that tale, so it wasn't all chauffeur style, but the Met sure was, wait till you hear...
This is getting long.... next!
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Friday, the Day o the Met (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/nyctripmet2010.jpg) dawned with a resolution from the group that as the Met was farther than Sarabeth's and the Author's Luncheon, really our prime event, that the Chinese Limo guys would be great as transportation. :)
Well you only go around once!
They, when called, returned a super price and sent two vehicles, one van and one car for ...I don't know how they do the prices. Or maybe I do. SPEED and get the customer IN and GONE seems to be the motto of this group!
We were to be AT the Met at 9:30 sharp. Special entrance to the left, no steps. The Chinese gentleman driving was very polite and we engaged in a sort of interesting dialogue for a few minutes, he ordered us in the car, I said we were not ready, he felt we must leave, I felt we would go when we were ready, and so it went. :)
Finally we were underway to the satisfaction of all, and all was harmonious. We were so ready we got there before it opened, and got to stand outside but we naturally refused to queue and the line stretched half a block around to the front of the Met. Hmmm. People did not look happy as Zulema zoomed in and out and said don't wait in line come this way. Turned out they were waiting for the Bamboo. In fact when we went inside forming Line 2, drifting toward where we were told to meet our guide, and the room was exactly as she said it would be named, one of the people in the Bamboo Line (sort of like a Conga Line but distinguished by snorty faces at the thought these old dames were skipping the queue), came up to me and asked "are you for the
Bamboo," (which, when you think about it is a dangerous question to ask anybody) and I said "No Ma'am" with the thickest southern accent I could summon so she appeared happy.
In we went to the Carson room and waited for our guide Rebecca Arkenberg. Write that name down.
We had received word from the Met that they were very sorry but all the assisted listening devices were gone. Phone calls to my house. Emails before I left. They were sorry. Lucy and I went up on our own the day before after our Cruise and trip to Chelsea market, no listening devices, sorry. Sigh. I asked everybody what they wanted to do? No person said, I don't want to go. So here we were, grinning and bearing it.
Here comes Rebecca. No listening devices? I'll get them. Who wants one? Well after having been told there are none nobody wanted to commit, so 4, I said, she goes up and returns with 4. There does seem to be a conflict but she overcame it. Huzzahs all around. Now almost everybody wants one. :) Back up she goes and doggone doesn't she come down, somewhat breathless (it's a long way) with them, sets them up and we're off.
(I got back to the hotel and had two emails. Two from the Met saying how sorry they were we didn't get them. I did write them that Rebecca got them and they were truly delighted for us. Keep Rebecca Arkenberg's name in your mind if you ever need a private guide. She is something else!
Saved our bacon!)
Here is Rebecca with our group,(http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/nycrebecca.jpg) and as you can see nobody in the group was the slightest bit interested in her talk. :) She spoke on books, book binding, the history of books, and did a great job.
Following her talk we had a lunch in the very airy American Wing Cafe (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/nyclunch.jpg) looking at the Tiffany Windows and the sculpture, I can take that. We had our photo in the heading taken by a gentlemen from....was it Iowa? Very nice man, got several shots.
Then those who wanted to adjourned to the Greek and Roman Wing where we viewed the restored Cubiculum of Fannius Synistore (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/nycsynistore.jpg)
and the Monteleone Chariot, passing by the gorgeous mosaic floors of the new Greek and Roman wing. (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/nycmetfloor.jpg)
Then we adjourned for the day, what did you all do? I stayed at the Met and got some fabulous shots of Roman stuff...and went up on the roof, our tradition also and got several shots of the skyline (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/nycmetroof2010.jpg) , that is, once I got thru the BAMBOO which I really think they could have managed without. Apparently you are to climb up it? Most strange.
A wonderful day at the Met!
What did you all do and where did you go after we left?
More to come, lots of folks have photos, and on Tuesday I'll put up our piece de resistance, the Author Tea at Sarabeths!
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GREAT PHOTOS, GINNY! WHAT A GREAT GROUP, I KNOW MOST OF YOU!! SO SORRY TO HAVE MISSED THE FUN.
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September 8-12, 2010
We Came, We Saw, We Conquered! We're BAACK!
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Author's Tea at Sarabeth's on Central Park South:
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Front row, seated: Authors Bruce Frankel and Maryann McFadden
Left to right (scroll sideways to see everybody):
Mary, Tom (Maryann's friend), Eloise, Judy's friend Liz, Joan R, Zulema, Pedln (hiding), Ann, Judy (Pedln's daughter) Andrea, Meghan (Joan R's daughter) Gay, Lucy's friend, Vivian,, Deb (Maryann's friend), Lucy, Ginny. Not shown: Patrick, Maryann's husband.
Morning at the Met: at the Metropolitan Museum of Art's American Wing
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Left to right: Lucy Ginny, Mary (in back) Zulema, Andrea (ALF), Ann, Vivian, Meghan (JoanR's daughter), Eloise, Joan R, Gay (Bow Belle), Pedln.
Ginny your pictures are fabulous, they make all of us look 10 years younger.
That is a really low price for the Bahamas. I need Bermuda right now because I came down with a virus since 12 days and am housebound.
I can’t tell you how thrilled it was to pass by the Statue of Liberty on our Hudson cruise. I had a thrill looking at New York Skyline.
Ann, Mary and I went to the High Line Park, we didn’t stay long because we wanted to go shopping and as usual when I am not alone I can’t decide on anything to buy, then rush, rush to get to our other events.
The restored cubiculum is so gorgeous on that picture Ginny. I learned a lot about the Roman ceremonial chariot and I was surprised at the size of it, just enough room for two feet on that little platform. While I was in that prestigious museum I didn’t even have enough sense to go and see the Impressionists section afterwards and my poor little brain had to take a break and I left for I don’t remember what.
I am so sorry I missed Frounces Museum and the Bridge Café when everybody got first together, next time though.
I am anxiously waiting to see more pictures. I didn't bring my camera, it was too heavy to carry.
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Ella, I am so glad to see you here, we missed you and Cindy this time, maybe next time!!
Eloise, I am so sorry to hear you've had the flu, it's really awful this year, I hope you are on the mend!
I think the Met is pretty overwhelming the first time and there's no way you can see it all. I am so glad you enjoyed the chariot and cubiculum! The pictures really ARE good, but it's the people in them that make them so. Isn't it?
Now we have the premiere event of our trip and the reason we went and that's our Author Tea at Sarabeth's. Two authors, yet.
Ann outdid herself, Sarabeths, which is very crowded, was really beautiful I thought.
Here are Pedln and her daughter and friend, and Mary on the end, isn't it pretty?
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But first things first!
Sarabeth's is right across from Central Park. You can eat on the sidewalk, very European and look at the horse carriages:
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We set out in a state of high excitement! Our Limo awaited and it wasn't the cut rate folks, it was Carmel:
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Here's Pedln doesn't she look regal, getting in the Limo:
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Everyone pretended they were used to this. Actually we should have been used to this, we seemed to do it all the time. :)
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Help yourself, it was set up for a king:
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Kind of hard not to grin, staring at that! (Do you think any of us will ever use any of these delights on any of these trips?) hahahahaha
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Then we got to Sarabeth's and we met Maryann McFadden, our Author, and Bruce Frankel our Author and they immediately set about meeting and greeting and making everybody feel at home: they both went right around the tables.
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Maryann had brought her husband and two friends, and they were fabulously interesting and creative. She looks like a 40 year old. I thought she was quite young but it turns out she's not, she just looks young, don't I wish.
Then Mary took the floor as our MC and was definitely the chic hostess with the mostest. (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/NYC2010_Mary.jpg) Mary is very animated and it was a joy to have her be our permanent MC Forever!
Maryann wrote:
I just wanted to thank you and Ann and everyone, including Mary, for making me so welcome, and my entourage LOL.
I had a great time! And our cruise was simply amazing, the beams of light at Ground Zero were just incredible at night. I don't know if you do Facebook, but I posted a picture there.
Enjoy the rest of your trip!
Maryann PS. Bruce was a doll! What a nice guy!
When it was over, they really had to leave , they were taking a cruise and almost did not make it, nobody wanted to leave. She spoke very impressively (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/NYC2010_maryannspeaks.jpg)
and also addressed the business end of what's entailed now in writing a book and it was eye opening: it's a BUSINESS, not at all what I thought, that was very illuminating. She also totally ignored the huge noisy group somewhere behind her, a classy lady. She's working on a new book which sounds like something everybody will want to read, about a book store owner, can't wait for it to come out.
We could have used you, Ella, for questions.
Then Bruce spoke and he's written everybody:
I don't know how to message everyone who was at Sarabeth's yesterday, but I want to thank you all for your warm welcome and welcome praise.
It was truly lovely talking with all of you, and great to have faces
to go with the names.
I hope the rest of the trip is great and that you got to the concert
at St. Patrick's in time to get seat.
If anyone would care to post a couple of lines of review on
Amazon.com, I would greatly appreciate it.
I hope to see you on SeniorLearn. Once I'm free of the pressure of
the current book, I do hope to use it more and get myself a bit of
education.
Warmest regards,
Bruce
I notice that he'd like a review of his book on Amazon, I think we can do that, for both of them, don't you? Let's do!
Bruce was also engaging, disarming, charming and super, (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/NYC2010_brucespeaks.jpg) just like Maryann. What a guy! He had me with the quote from his mother, everything he said after that was pure gold. He spoke about research on the aging brain, it was fascinating.
It was truly lovely, when we took the photo in the heading they chatted, they really did their part to make the entire thing a success.
It's kind of heady for us, too.
Bruce is working on several new projects and putting himself up as guinea pig for one study of how dancing affects the brain, it was just a great day of exposure to these two writers, who are creative, charming, and not incidentally, extremely nice people, and everybody there tremendously enjoyed both of them. I had a great conversation with Maryann's friends and husband, and all thee of them were fabulous and creative. One runs an old time Vaudeville Theater. Where do you meet people like that? At our Gatherings, thanks to Maryann and Bruce.
It was just a super day, everybody had to leave but nobody wanted to. And yes there was plenty of room at St. Patrick's and it was absolutely spectacular, that children's choir!!!! Three choirs or was it four and this event is sweeping the country in memory of 9/11. It was beautiful. I got some of them on film.
You know, we do these things very well. We're getting better and better. It's because of the people who pitch in and make it work, in whatever way, however small, everything those of you who went did contributed to it. It was the smoothest most enjoyable best one of these I've ever been to, and it's because of who went, including the authors and their kindness.
I am not sure how we could improve upon it.
One for the Books! Bring on the rest of the photos!
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Thank you Ginny, it is great fun to see and hear about your trip. To repeat Bruce's comment, I love putting candid pictures to the familiar names.......Jean
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There were many firsts for me on my trip. I had never been to a Broadway show, faaaaantastic, never rode in a limousine, was I surprised that the seats were all on one long side and, yes mam the bar on the other side. Did we drink something? I don't remember but we didn't even need that to feel excited and happy and it is the first time I speak to a famous author who was extremely sweet and kind revealing to us some of his private struggles, we even spoke together about ageing.
We are still having our gorgeous Fall here in Montreal, the leaves are still on trees in front, the garden is put to bed and we enjoy this lull before the onslaught of winter.
These were great photos Ginny, thanks for posting them.
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Thank you Ginny for the photos and your piece about the trip.
Here is my first page about my time in New york. More to follow
To New York from Somerset for a Seniorlearn Soirée
Continental airlines run planes from Bristol to Newark New Jersey and I live only an half hour journey from the airport. The flight took 7 hours and it was a pleasant flight. The whole journey was effortless!
My teacher Ginny and Andrea who was a member from the book club had also flown into Newark so they waited for me and held a sign up with my name! I felt like royalty. We shared a cab to our hotel, which was in downtown Manhattan.
The Hotel was called “The Leo” and run by a group of retired Catholic Nuns. It was friendly very reasonably priced and a lovely place to stay. The staff were helpful and |I enjoyed my stay there immensely
That evening we dined in a Restaurant at the foot of Brooklyn Bridge in a very old part of the Town. The restaurant had been built in 1784 and it had a lot of character. It was obviously very popular as it was full and the food and service were excellent It was lovely meeting in the flesh all the people I had previously been doing Latin translations with all year. They were introduced to me and it was great to put a face to a name!
Lucy, A New Yorker lives on an island called Rockaway in the Borough of Queens and is right on the Ocean. She, others, and I had spent the summer without our teacher translating Book 3 of the Cambridge Latin. She had very kindly organised for us a trip on the river Hudson.
Second day
We got to the Quayside and boarded the boat for the trip around Manhattan. Because there was a high tide, we were unable to complete a round trip, as the boat would not have been able to go under all the bridges. We had an excellent guide who gave us a wonderful commentary and told many interesting facts about Manhattan as well as naming all the skyscrapers and other buildings and places of interest. We went under Brooklyn Bridge saw the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island and saw the spot where the plane had landed on the Hudson, which was pier 88. Because I had seen many American Movies, it was great to see the buildings that I recognised in real life. Some of the older buildings had unusual looking water towers on the tops.
When the trip finished we went to Chelsea Market for lunch. There were many food outlets and we found a table which one of us had to stay at whilst the others all went to choose what to have.
Some of the choices were Thai food, fresh lobster/crab, Fried Chicken, Burgers, Italian, Chinese, fresh sandwiches, Gelato, Cupcakes, and so much more.” It was just a treat to look at all the different foods on offer and difficult to decide what to have!
That evening we just had to walk a few yards from our hotel to have dinner in an Italian Restaurant.
More to follow
Gay Hector
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Jean, so glad you're enjoying them!
Eloise, I love your lists of Firsts. I had some firsts, too. In retrospect it seems the perfect time to have gone, NYC never disappoints! I do have the list of people who have paid for the Cruise photos and will send them off, hopefully before 3010 so don't worry, they are coming and we'll all have (except for moi) a record of our free face lifts! hahaha
Gay (Bow_Belle) I love your diary! Brings it all back and from your point of view, it's like experiencing it all over again!
So! It was the Brooklyn Bridge, had I known that I think I would have looked twice. Hasn't somebody written a book about the building of that bridge? McCullough? I'll have to read the book and go back now that I know what it IS. Besides the food was great and so was the company. hahaah
I wish I had the discipline TO do a travel diary, you think you will never forget this or that and then you do. I like this kind of discussion because hearing from everybody makes it all come alive again. :)
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Thank you all for your posts, pictures etc. almost as good as being there. Marcie thanks for letting us know about this discussion thru book bytes.
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Hello our Gingee, it's so nice to see you here.
I am making another list of things I missed this trip, although the days were so packed full that I don't think I could have squeezed in one more. Next time I will take more time in the Met but my head was spinning and I had to take some air. Another first was to step inside Saks 5th Avenue. Should I tell you that I was looking for the ladies's room? But it was a real thrill, it felt like a Breakfast at Tiffany's movie. I learned that the new fashion color this fall is black? Every item on display on the floor was black with a tiny dress in burnt orange far away. Naturally every mannequin on the floor was size 00, it would not fit me for sure.
I was a tiny bit overwhelmed by all the glamor and the fast pace of people rushing past me.
Next time I hope we will be graced with authors like Maryann and Bruce who gave us a taste of what it is to publish a book, its misery and its reward. what an experience to hear it from their own lips.
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Bamboo is what this is -- on the roof of Met. Is this what people were paying for -- to climb in the bamboo? But what a view we had from up there. Beautiful.
Ginger -- yay. It's good to have you here. We've missed you. I remember that on my very first SeniorNet trip you and Anna were the very first persons I met -- in DC 2002.
If this picture works, there are more to come. I don't want to overload they system with photos too big.
Eloise, isn't that the truth -- the days were so packed, so much to do, so little time. Kind of like a gigantic moving "To read" pile. ;D
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(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z142/annb1433/SeniorLearn%20in%20NY%202010/IMG_1532.jpg) JoanR and Eloise on the roof at the Met
(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z142/annb1433/SeniorLearn%20in%20NY%202010/IMG_1504.jpg) Andy, at Patsy's Italian Restaurant
(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z142/annb1433/SeniorLearn%20in%20NY%202010/IMG_1509.jpg) Ginny, JoanR, and her daughter Meg
(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z142/annb1433/SeniorLearn%20in%20NY%202010/IMG_1510.jpg) Ann and Mary
(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z142/annb1433/SeniorLearn%20in%20NY%202010/IMG_1513.jpg) Eloise and Gay Gay always had the greatest smile. Just a pleasure to see.
Okay, I don't know how to place these pictures, but 1) JoanR and Eloise on the roof at the Met,
then the next ones are all at Patsy's Italian Restaurant, just a couple doors down from Leo House. The food was good, but we thought their billing system needed to become part of the 21st Century. At the table next to us a young woman was reading, and of course we had to know what -- I'll Fly Away or Fly Away Home -- something like that.
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Pedln, thank you for the great photos, I did not know you went up on the roof too, that bamboo, isn't it a mess? i wonder if it...surely it's not permanent, I wish somebody would explain the attraction of it?
I am glad you went to the roof and Eloise got to go, our tradition, we need to keep it up!
Ginger so glad to see you here!
Eloise and Saks, sounds like a book! I sent your nice comments on the authors to both of them today. :) I have found more fabulous places looking for the Ladies'. Once I sashayed right into the Plaza as if I stayed there and went up to the Ladies', can't remember which floor and a nicer Ladies you'd be hard pressed to find. It was lovely.
I am so glad somebody got photos of us in Patsy's Pizza!
Next time we can go to the Italian one, was it Don Giovanni, everybody was raving about one block over. I'm ready to go now actually.
Was it Wally Lamb's book I'll Fly Away? Golly I wish I had known, but I never notice stuff like you guys do.
Posting for Andrea:
Andrea has sent this photo on of the Monteleone Chariot at the Met:
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She got roped into hearing TWO presentations on it, so she should know it by heart! hahahaa
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Was it Wally Lamb's book I'll Fly Away? Golly I wish I had known, but I never notice stuff like you guys do.
NO, it was Jennifer Weiner's Fly Away Home, about a woman much like the wife of Elliot Spitzer, John Edwards, or that Congressman trail hiker from South Carolina.
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OH, ok!! You are doubtless referring to our Governor of South Carolina, Mark Sanford and the Appalachian Trail.
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Have just spent ten minutes following you all around New York! It was obviously a fantastic trip as the images prove. I can only echo what others have said: it is so good to put faces to names. Just wish I could have been there!
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I am really enjoying all the pics that everyone put up. Mary has ours and so far I haven't heard a word from her about when I might get to see them. She is in NC so I can't do much about it. My camera is broken again.
I loved the Cubiculum and the Chariot plus all the facts that Ginny imparted to us. What happened to the vase that we saw with Achilles on it playing chess??
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You did a great job with this trip, Ann! I'm glad you enjoyed the Met!
The vase showing Achilles and Ajax playing chess on the beach which we had as explanation for the chariot is actually in the Vatican Museum in Rome:
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And of course a million reproductions of it are everywhere. I have one myself from a study tour of Greece a few years ago, sitting right here.
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Maryemm, having you would have made it perfect, I wish you could have come, too! You and Gay could be our British contingent, that was just a lot of fun!
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Hi Eloise good to hear you had such a wonderful time. But then what's new about that with this group. smile.
Hi pedln Good to see you are still up and at em. Great photo of the
bamboo on top of the met, never heard of it before. Smile.
Howdy Ginny always good to see you.
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I have just found this part of the site - what an absolutely wonderful trip. I do hope you will have another one, although I can understand how hard it must be to organise. The Barbara Pym group have an annual conference (one in the US, usually in Boston, and one in the UK, in the Oxford college that BP attended) - I haven't managed either of them yet, but I've seen the write-up of the Boston one and they too had a fabuous time - I think they even went to the same church evensong. The local members recently had a tea in Boston, and my friend there said even that took months of organisation.
It's great to read everyone's accounts of their experiences; I do think we get so much more out of these things then we did as callow youths - I went to Boston, NYC, etc when I was about 20, and can hardly remember a thing about it, whereas nowadays any trip I make (not that that's many!) is far more precious.
Rosemary
PS I love those Eloise books.
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:) Welcome, Rosemary!~ I loved your post here! I agree with you about how we get so much more out of everything now!
We've been going on these since 1998, but it seems lately we manage every other year. Everybody pitches in and does something so it seems to go well, but the people going are also one of the main reasons it went so well.
I love the idea of a BP society meeting!~ Oxford! (We all need to go there!) Boston! I was for years a member of the EF Benson Society (both of them) and met many fine people through it, can still remember the trips to Rye, it's exhilarating to be among people with like interests.
We are so glad you found us! Welcome!
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Welcome Rosemary, funny thing but I was the only person with my name until I met someone about 12 years ago on the old SeniorNet whose name was also Eloise.
Next time we have a "Soirée in NYC" I would like to propose a better schedule. For example, because there is a lot of time gap between group visits, I could insert in the gaps what we each would like to do. For instance, a group activity is going to the Met from 9 am to 2 pm. I was not organized enough for what to do afterwards, so I missed doing some things I would have preferred instead of what I did. I usually like to just spur of the moment activity when I travel, but during 3 or 4 days there is not enough time for that so I would need to be more organized. This way we spend less energy in transportation and more on fun things.
I wonder if that is clear enough. I am already thinking of another SeniorLearn reunion. ;D..... 8)
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Welcome Rosemary! We are always pleased to have anyone here who can enjoy these stories and pictures as much as we do.
Clear and concise, Eloise!
I wish that I had the picture of you at the Plaza shop for Eloise! But Mary is not available at the moment so you will have to wait until she or I send it to you. She will not be back from Atlanta until tomorrow.
In the meantime, I think if we all just think of one thing we missed in this trip to NYC plus new things offered by new members who will be on the next trip, we could come up with something for everyday that you would or me or anybody might like to do.
For instance, I have yet to have seen the 9/11 Museum and will definitely want to see the new buildings at the 9/11 site. They are supposed to be ready to view by 9/11/2011.
Also, there is the Morgan Library which promises to be worth the tour.
Did I see a museum dedicated to architecture?
I have yet to see Harlem and the tour offerings look enticing.
There is so much going on at the Met all the time and I am sure we can find something anytime we go.
I believe you wanted to see the Cloisters.
The Botanical Gardens in Central Park with a tour?
Mary and I visited Central Park many times and its worth a relaxed stroll.
Gosh, I am sure there are many more things that people have wanted to see.
Don't miss Eataly! Its a hoot and the food looks scrumpcious! Better than Chelsea Mall, by far.
The Hop On-Hop Off city tours?
I could go on here but you all know the drill!
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Hi! I enjoyed every minute of our NYC Soiree and don't feel that I wasted any time - the trouble is that there is so much to see and to do, that you can't possibly hit everything. Perhaps not even in a lifetime! There are some things that I hoped to squeeze in - The Smithsonian Museum of the American Indian, the Morgan Library, Greenwich Village, Soho - there is a bookstore down there that I particularly wanted to visit - so, another time!- and ,of course, there is Brooklyn which is a whole day in itself if not more.
The Brooklyn Museum is very interesting, the Botanical Gardens are said to be lovely - isn't the NY Aquarium in Brooklyn, near Coney Island? In the same area there is a large Russian settlement with restaurants and shopping to match - sounds interesting.
Harlem is worth a trip - a guided tour is helpful or you'd miss the history - eat at Sylvia's!! and visit the Apollo theater.
Oh, I could go on and on!
Of course, as others have said, it was the wonderful group that made the trip really special. We wouldn't have had our limo ride to the museum & the special tour there had it not been arranged by Ginny. Nor would we have had the special tea at Sarabeth's where we met 2 delightful authors had it not been for Anne's hard work. Ginny shepherded a few of us to Ellis Island too. I really don't know how we did so much in just 4 days!! A choir concert in St. Patrick's, even!!!
The climax was our last night's dinner upstairs at that funny little place on 23rd st. where the food was good and no one minded how much noise we made!! What a hoot!!
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Well I will echo Joan's take on our trip.
I enjoyed every minute of our NYC Soiree and don't feel that I wasted any time - the trouble is that there is so much to see and to do, that you can't possibly hit everything.
I agree whole heartedly Joan and feel that the problem is, we didn't have enough days there. I think we needed more than the scheduled 5 days. (Wed-Sunday)
I lived in NY City and know that there will never be enough time to see and enjoy all but next time I think for our new comers the step on-step off bus tour is the ticket. This is the first year I have not done it and I really missed it. It is a wonderful venue to get a "taste of the city."
Any more walking they would have to shoot me. ;D
I must have walked 3000 miles and guess what I did not lose one bloody ounce. (I hate it when people exaggerate, don't you?)
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Well, and some things are nice to revisit too -- add some days for that. Evensong at St. John's the Divine. If I lived in NY I go there every Sunday evening.
And the Bridge Cafe and that crazy last night place where they let us write on the tablecloths -- East after Eighth -- or something like that.
One of these times we've got to go HIGH at NIGHT and STAY there and enjoy all those lights.
Rosemary, you come with Gay next time. You will have a ball.
Who knows, we might make it to the Tenement Museum. And St. Paul's Chapel, again.
And if you've never been there -- the Judy Chicago exhibit of The Dinner Party at the Brooklyn Museum. That's a bucket list must. And that Museum is right next door to the Brooklyn Botanical Gardens.
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You know, just reading this, I'm ready to go again, no joke! There is SO much we could see and do there and I thought the weather was perfect!
I do understand what Eloise is saying tho and while it's true we really packed those hours we could have (and I think we'll take her up on her offer to help schedule the off hours a bit better because had XX known that YYY was available XXX might have enjoyed it) had the off or down time fixed so that those of us of independent minds could be free to do whatever and those who might like to go along could do that too. I thought you all did a super job there as well, kudos to Andy for organizing the last night.
Nothing is so good it can't be better, I want to do all the things you all are talking about right now! What would you think about closer to Christmas next year if we went to NYC? Of course the weather was perfect and there's so much going on in that time. Can we do two Gatherings? Can we do the west coast and NYC? Or not? Look at Al Pacino on Broadway sitting in Sardis.
Do we want to look into a cruise, the local people have unbelievable cruises from SC and Fla, very very cheap.
Where would you want to go? I'm always going to be in NYC if still moving that is, but that could be a mini trip. The Botanical Gardens are a trip to die for, you take the train out of Grand Central Station and you eat in a gorgeous conservatory, and there's a train/ tram that takes you around the gardens, lots and lots of walking.
OH and just now I heard from Bruce Frankel about a new article appearing today on him here:
http://www.secondact.com/2010/10/bruce-frankel-and-the-new-realities-of-turning-60/
Is it his birthday today? I must go look!
Let's plan a new one!~
NYC is getting to be our tradition. :) But I'd love to hit the west coast, oh my!
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Ginny it is so exciting to be a part of a group where everyone just wants to enjoy themselves- no griping and complaining. Our group just kept "plodding along" and enjoying each and every moment.
I will always agree to a NYC trip with anyone, anytime BUT with that said I wish that we could somehow organize a California trip. If not California, then west- somewhere.
I do not cruise, I have vertigo and after 4 attempts I have given up. I do NOT get sea sick I just get the vertigo and have to eat, sleep and drink sitting in one spot. NO Walking at all. And you know how much I love walking around and seeing ev erthing. I find cruises limiting.
I am going right now and check out Bruce's new link. Thanks for the info, Ginny.
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I'm afraid I don't know who Bruce Frenkel is, but I have just looked at the very interesting article, and he certainly doesn't look 60! Is he a film star?
Rosemary
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No, RosemaryKaye,
Bruce Frankel is one of the authors who graciously offered to join us for our tea at Sarabeth's in NYC. He said he was very nervous but he spoke so well of meeting and writing about the people in his book. We truly enjoyed hearing all about them. Then he told us of his newest idea for a book about dancing. Actually, about, the tango! So he is taking tango lessons and we await his book about aging and dancing plus many other ways to live longer maybe? He is just delightful!
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Andrea
all but next time I think for our new comers the step on-step off bus tour is the ticket. This is the first year I have not done it and I really missed it. I
There might be one more time in NYC for me, that's all so I will have to study the map a lot more in order to do what I want to do without straying too far. Usually I love to stay in the center of a big city like NYC, this is where the most interesting things are. We were so fortunate to have good weather, but in winter you can always expect miserable weather, so I don't think I would like to go later than November.
In the winter it would be nice to go on a short cruise, I would certainly consider that Ginny. BTW I am planning on a Florida vacation next winter, I guess it would be near St. Pete Beach that I know from having been there before. I want to see the ocean, that is always my No. 1 priority. But going on the West Coast is not possible for me as it is beyond my reach, not that I wouldn't like to go though.
Ann, If Bruce Frankel writes a book about dancing, I will read it for sure, he is a great writer.
So little time, so much to do.
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Eloise- that is the beauty of the "step off/step on" bus tour. You can sit and enjoy the entire city as you listen to the narration and never get off if that is your choice. You can get off once, twice, as many times as they stop to pick up passengers or drop them off or stay put in your seat. Ginny and I had splendid open aired seats right up atop the bus, to relish the fresh air and all of sites unencumbered by a roof of a bus.
Rosemary- Bruce Frankel is an Adonis. That's all I have to say. Oh no- one more thing. :o
If I could learn the Tango WITH him, I would die a happy lady. ;D He's suave, sincere and mighty handsome.
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Well I didn't like to say that at first, but too right, he is gorgeous - I will be next in the queue :)
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Right beside a few of us, I'd wager.
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Here's a quote for the NYC foks. See if you can identify the author of the book that wrote these lines.
"Cormac waits for the dark young lady on an evening of steady rain. Not just rain, but an unruly New York rain, pushed by river winds. He is in the backyard of a restaurant called "East of 8th", on 23rd street, next to a movie multiplex. Its a few minutes after seven on an evening in March. A huge Cinzano umbrella spreads above the table, but the wet breeze toys with it, lifting it along an edge," [/b]
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Forever by Pete Hamill?
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That's right, Pedl'n! I should have known you would come right up with it. Did you also read the book?? I am almost done and will hate to put it down. So much history that I never knew about NYC. Its all there in a delicious but very different tale.
And didn't we have a great time at East of 8th???
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Annie, I haven't read it, but sure would like to -- someday. Let me see if I have the correct premis -- this guy arrives in NY in the 18th century, does something remarkable that allows him to live for the next 250 years, and goes through several facets of NY history.
We should have it as our NY read, but I doubt he'd come talk to us without a huge fee.
(I like a scavenger hunt)
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If we could get Pete Hamill to speak that would seal the deal for me with NYC in 2011!!
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(http://seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/NYCtrip/soireegif.jpg)
September 8-12, 2010
We Came, We Saw, We Conquered! We're BAACK!
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Author's Tea at Sarabeth's on Central Park South:
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Front row, seated: Authors Bruce Frankel and Maryann McFadden
Left to right (scroll sideways to see everybody):
Mary, Tom (Maryann's friend), Eloise, Judy's friend Liz, Joan R, Zulema, Pedln (hiding), Ann, Judy (Pedln's daughter) Andrea, Meghan (Joan R's daughter) Gay, Lucy's friend, Vivian,, Deb (Maryann's friend), Lucy, Ginny. Not shown: Patrick, Maryann's husband.
Morning at the Met: at the Metropolitan Museum of Art's American Wing
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Left to right: Lucy Ginny, Mary (in back) Zulema, Andrea (ALF), Ann, Vivian, Meghan (JoanR's daughter), Eloise, Joan R, Gay (Bow Belle), Pedln.
Me,too, Ginny. I was telling Ella about the honor the NYC Museum is giving him next week and wishing we could be there. She and I both met him last spring when he spoke at a gathering of one community who had featured the reading of all his books for a year. He did a nice and interesting speech about his life and his writing. I really liked "Forever". He's is a super writer and I r learned much history unknownst to me before picking up that book . And he loves his NYC as much as we do.
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Here's another interesting thing. I recently got one of the two books actually titled 97 Orchard. This one is about an Edible History of Five Immigrant Families in one New York tenement, and is connected with the Tenement House but it's a lot more.
In it we read about the Kosher food crisis at Ellis Island, and it was one. It includes the menus in the new Kosher kitchen there from 1914 and they are the earliest on record.
The young woman who wrote the book, Jane Ziegelman, is the new director of the "forthcoming program" of the new culinary program at the Tenement Museum." The cover shows two children holding bread loaves, one a ring, which are bigger than they are. I think this book will be marvelous and we MIGHT want to follow up some of the culinary leads on our text trip back to NYC (we ARE going back, right?) I mean it's a foodie paradise.
The book is full of recipes, very old ones. I say we should make this a focus for a new trip and each try one which suits us. I HOPE there's one for chopped chicken livers, have almost given up in getting good ones. I do see one for Cranberry Strudel, which actually looks super (what should we substitute for the "glass of fat?"). It might be the MOST fun to read this, try these old recipes, visit the Tenement Museum and see what their Culinary program is, and just...nosh our way thru NYC in 2011. We just missed the giant food expo there with all the famous TV chefs, maybe we could plan it to coincide next time?
Those of you who enjoyed Bruce Frankel, don't forget to write a short review of his book on Amazon, that's a nice way of paying him back for his lovely speech and that goes for MaryAlice too.
Happy Holidays!
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Ginny, 97 Orchard is on my Amazon Wish List. I may have to break down and order the hard copy.
You may not want to try everything in this article, but there are some great ideas. I never knew that most of the NY museums offer "pay what you wish" admissions during certain times of the week.
A New York City Weekend for $100 (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/02/travel/02frugal-newyork.html?src=me&ref=general)
After that we took a walking tour led by the Lower East Side Business Improvement District’s excellent podcast. (The organization offers free tours led by live guides April through November.)
We quite enjoyed our disembodied female narrator as she talked about the architectural details of surprisingly ornate tenements; told us the story of Sender Jarmulowsky, a Russian banker whose name still adorns his 12-story bank building at Canal and Orchard; and even led us to the chic Roasting Plant coffee shop.
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I would bet that we (SL traveling DL's) could do that, Pedl'n! We have learned of a few places where one does't need to spend one's inheritance to enjoy NYC. It certainly helps when one can travel with friends as we did in NYC!
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OH wow wow, I agree, Ann, we really do it right and Pedln, just reading that makes me want to pack a bag!
And guess what ELSE? Pompeii is coming!! Yes yes just take a LOOK!
http://www.discoverytsx.com/pompeii
"Extraordinary, unforgettable," is the way the presentations at the Discovery Expo are termed, and...world premiere of this traveling exhibit, begins in March!
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Oh boy, Ginny's off and running. I feel another exhibit coming on @ Pompeii. Maybe this time I can stay and enjoy ALL of it without searching around for Mary and Ann. :o
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Hi Alf,
I remember that day in the museum! Did you really miss Ginny's first explanation? And then, you came along with Mary and I when Ginny offered to show us the Cubiculum and Achilles Cart? You are such a jewel!
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AdoAnnie - I have been so intrigued by your location that I have just looked it up. I think I had Gahanna (which I'd never heard of) and Ghana muddled up in my mind - must be the influence of reading that Little Bee book :)
Anyway, it looks absolutely beautiful, and I see it has been rated as one of the top places to live. Do you live in one of the waterfront buildings?
Rosemary
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What waterfront buildings, rosemary? My waterfront is a creek in the woods behind our condo. Oh, you must have happened upon our Creekside development. No, I live about 2 miles from there but I do have a nice woods right behind me and a small creek, Sycamore Run. I love where I live because its so close to small town necessities. Library, grocery, filling station, and drugstore plus the international airport is probably not more than 3 miles from our home and a fine village(but huge) shopping center about 4 miles away called Easton.
Our children grew up in Gahanna and one of them refuses to leave here so his four children are experiencing what life is like in a small suburb outside of Columbus,Ohio. We have beautiful parks here and when the weather is nice, we meet the family for a Sunday night picnic on a regular basis.
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I came in with news of special interest to those who attended our Soiree in NYC this past fall.
Bruce Frankel's book “What Should I Do For The Rest Of My Life?” has won the 2011 Silver Medal in the careers category of The Axiom Business Book Awards. (http://seniorlearn.org/latin/graphics/Brucemedals.jpg)
Designed to honor the year’s best business books and their authors and publishers, the fourth annual awards were announced by the Jenkins Group. “The awards are intended to bring increased recognition to exemplary business books and their creators, with the understanding that business people are an information-hungry segment of the population, eager to learn about great new books that will inspire them and help them improve their careers and businesses,” according to the organization’s announcement. A ceremony honoring the award recipients is scheduled for May 23 in New York City.
Bruce wrote the last time he won a medal was in the 8th grade, he was, in fact, the Conn. State Jr. Wrestling Champion, in the 95 pound weight class.
The man is a charmer, and he won us all over, one of the more charismatic speakers we've ever had, possibly second to Hoving who of course was the epitome.
I thought you all might enjoy hearing of this, go, Bruce!!
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My congratulations to Bruce for receiving the award. His interest and enthusiasm during the book discussion was delightful, his enthusiasm infective.
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I'm happy to hear of the award - Bruce Frankl certainly deserves it for his interesting and inspirational book. Nice guys CAN finish first, after all!! We certainly all loved him!
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Thank you for that, Joan, I've sent your and Frybabe's comments to him. And here's yet MORE news!~
"What Should I Do With The Rest Of My Life?" has won a 2011 Nautilus Book Award Silver in the Aging Gracefully / Retirement category. The Nautilus Book Awards recognize books of "exceptional quality and merit" that “promote spiritual growth, conscious living, and positive social change ...and inspire the reader to new possibilities for a better world."
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, could it?
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Great news, Ginny.
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Originally posted in The Library, I thought I should add it to this one too.
With a little nosing around and Don's (Radioman) help, we finally found Eloise. Here is Don's post from the Classical Music forum on Senior's and Friends.
I finally made contact with Eloise this afternoon. We chatted for almost half an hour.
She has some issues which she shared with me but wants to come online to divulge personally. I asked if we could send cards or letters and she emphatically said yes!
With her permission, here is her address:
E.DePelteau
10207 Av Larose
Montreal Quebec
Canada
H2B 2Y8
I would ask those who are aware of the other forums in which she posts that you copy this message so that word gets out.
I think a truckload of cards would bring a lot of cheer to her.