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Nominations for  Fall Bookclub Online Discussion-

Post your Nominations now!

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Note that book titles are linked to reviews:

The Leopard
 by Guiseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa


Ship of Fools
 by Katherine Anne Porter


The Elephant's Journey
 by José Saramago


The Help
 by Kathryn Stockett

The Optimist's Daughter (Pulitzer Prize) AND   The Ponder Heart    by Eudora Welty

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Contact:  JoanP




ROSEMARY ,  I think "The Lion in Winter" has become something of a classic.  I am thinking of
the one featuring Katherine Hepburn as Eleanor of Aquitaine.  I found her 'Eleanor' most
believable.  It also stars Peter O'Toole as Henry II and Anthony Hopkins as Richard.  Quite a cast.
  There is a newer version out, but I haven't seen it and can't comment.
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« Reply #521 on: July 12, 2011, 09:34:16 AM »
Thanks Babi - the Katherine Hepburn one is the one I am thinking of - and the one they have at the library.  I think I will borrow it.

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« Reply #522 on: July 12, 2011, 10:44:50 AM »
Rosemary, I've seen LION IN WINTER but it was a long time ago. I thought it was interesting. The film was made in the 60s and is one of those "spectacle" films with epic acting so it probably seems dated today. But it has a fantastic cast, featuring Peter O'Toole and Katharine Hepburn. Also included were Anthony Hopkins and Timothy Dalton.

You can get a flavor of the film, with Anthony Hopkins talking about it a bit, at : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9oqfQQBfuA&feature=related.  It was Hopkins first film role.

The film won Oscars for
Katharine Hepburn, Best Actress in a Leading Role (Tied with Barbra Streisand for Funny Girl).
Best Music, Original Score for a Motion Picture (not a Musical)
Best Writing, Screenplay Based on Material from Another Medium

It also was nominated for the following Oscars:
Best Picture
Peter O'Toole, Best Actor in a Leading Role
Margaret Furse, Best Costume Design
Anthony Harvey, Best Director

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« Reply #523 on: July 12, 2011, 01:33:46 PM »
Marcie - thank you so much for this.  I just watched the clip of Anthony Hopkins - what a lovely, lovely man!  I remember him in 84 Charing Cross Rd and The Silence of the Lambs - so versatile.  Now I will have to get The Lion In Winter!

Rosemary

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« Reply #524 on: July 12, 2011, 04:42:27 PM »
I've heard about that movie forever, and never seen it. Now I have to! I love Anthony Hopkins too (who doesn't!)

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« Reply #525 on: July 12, 2011, 05:41:12 PM »
Goodness, I've been away for a few days and find all this activity.  Soon as I unpack, I'll get a new chart of nominations up in the heading.  Thanks!  Your recommendations are exactly what we need here!

Babi

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« Reply #526 on: July 16, 2011, 09:11:00 AM »
 Dang, this guy does get around!  MARCIE!!!
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« Reply #527 on: July 16, 2011, 09:37:39 AM »
I've sent an e-mail to Jane about this person or persons - there seem to be 2 different names.

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« Reply #528 on: July 16, 2011, 09:40:17 AM »
Thank you JoanK. What an annoyance. I have a few choice words running around in my head just now.


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« Reply #529 on: July 16, 2011, 10:12:09 AM »
Thanks for the email.  We're short handed right now, but we work hard to catch these goofs!  These two slipped through.  I'd deleted 42 other bogus registrants this morning alone.

I'm off to get rid of these two.

jane

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« Reply #530 on: July 21, 2011, 04:52:57 PM »
Several suggestions from recent book discussions -


Ship of Fools
 by Katherine Anne Porter came from the Old Filth discussion.
I'll enter that one in the heading of nominations here.


From The Novel Bookstore, Eudora Welty has been mentionned. I've read some of her short stories, but  have always meant to read one of her novels.  Have you?  Which one(s)?

Thomas Mann's Death in Venice?  You've probably seen the film, but have you ever read Mann's book?

salan

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« Reply #531 on: July 21, 2011, 07:00:26 PM »
I read Eudora Welty's The Optimist' Daughter and didn't much care for it.  I tried another one of hers, but....I don't think she is my kind of author.
Sally

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« Reply #532 on: July 21, 2011, 10:50:56 PM »
Oh my Uncle Daniel is Buddha and Mark Twain all rolled together in Ponder Heart - love that story...stayed at a B&B a few years ago and the owner and her mother were good friends of Eudora Welty - there were photos all over the house of the three of them as well as famous Jazz players who lived in Jackson. Most of Welty's stories were written about folks who lived on or near the Natchez Trace during the 1930s.
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« Reply #533 on: July 23, 2011, 05:20:38 PM »
I've been trying to get onto this site for awhile but it was "stuck" on the first page of the discussion.A big
THANK YOU MARCIE for her help in getting me here so that I can post.

I want to suggest" The Elephants Journey" as a book we can discuss and enjoy and yes, laugh and giggle along the way.
This is a novel, based on a true story, of an elephant named Solomon sent by the royals of Portugal to the royals of Vienna in the sixteenth century. There is lots and lots of history and geography to explore.
Saramago won the Nobel Prize in 1998 for some very, very serious novels.  However this book (200 pages) is the last book he wrote before his death and it is a delight of the rarest kind. Very , very serious subjects are tackled with a sense of humor worthy of Mark Twain.

I hope others will try this book even if it doesn't become a Senior Read.

JudeS

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« Reply #534 on: July 23, 2011, 05:25:30 PM »
I want to list the book but I read that it should be linked to a review.  My Zero Techie ability makes that impossible to do. Will Joan P do that?
Yikes I feel stupid right now.

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Babi

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« Reply #536 on: July 24, 2011, 08:18:46 AM »
 Serious subjects tackled with a sense of humor.  Sounds good to me, JUDE.  I'll have to see if
I can lay hands on a copy.  Saramago is a new name to me.
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« Reply #537 on: July 24, 2011, 01:12:05 PM »
Those are both good reviews, Jane.  Thank you!  And thank you for the nomination, Judy.  Sorry you got "stuck" on the first page.  We can't have that! We need your nominations!   I'm going to track down Marcie and see what was wrong - and hopefully we can fix the problem.

Again, thank you!

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« Reply #538 on: July 27, 2011, 01:10:18 AM »
Thank you so much Jane for finding those reviews and posting them here, on this site.
I read both of them and the second review, from The Guardian, is the way I saw this wonderful 200 page novel.
Saramago's view of humanity and it's foibles is wonderful in its forgiveness.

No matter what his political views were the author has been weathered and made wise by life and yet, for all the worlds problems, of that time(16th century), the truths he points out are leavened with understanding and such a rare humor that this book stands out for me as one of the best novels of the year.

Babi

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« Reply #539 on: July 27, 2011, 09:42:31 AM »
 My local library, sadly, but not surprisingly, has nothing by Saramago.  With the current limited
budget, the primary choices are patron's favorite authors and books listed tbr for students in the
local schools.  Prize-winners and books making the news can also be found, usually.  The
lesser known writers, esp. foreign writers,  appear to be pretty far down on the lists.
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

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« Reply #540 on: July 30, 2011, 11:04:54 AM »
I would like to refer a new book for a future discussion called The Help by Katherine Stockett. 
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Babi

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« Reply #541 on: July 31, 2011, 08:31:08 AM »
 A very good book, Bellamarie.  I read it, and I remember several other people in
SL read it, too, and had some comments to make.  It's a movie now, you know?
I want to see that.  From the previews, I think it's going to be a bit lighter and more humorous in some respects.
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

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« Reply #542 on: July 31, 2011, 10:21:43 AM »
THE HELP:
In 1960s Jackson, Miss., aspiring writer Eugenia Phelan crosses taboo racial lines by conversing with Aibileen Clark about her life as a housekeeper, and their ensuing friendship upsets the fragile dynamic between the haves and the have-nots. When other long-silent black servants begin opening up to Eugenia, the disapproving conservative Southern town soon gets swept up in the turbulence of changing times.

Netflix has this film under SAVE so not available now.  Is this the story you are talking about?

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« Reply #543 on: July 31, 2011, 12:45:11 PM »
Babi - I'm sorry to hear that your library doesn't carry any of Saramago's work.  (He was on the list of 1001 authors to read before we die.)  Can others check and see if you find the same problem with locating it?

 I was excited about Elephant's Journey as a possible  title for discussion in the fall.  Picked up a copy at my library yesterday  and am already drawn to it - after reading only the quote on the opening page -

"In the end, we always arrive at the place where we are expected."
 Book of Itineraries.

Jude, do you know anything about the "Book of Itineraries"?  I really hate to take this one off the slate...


Bellamarie - I'll enter The Help by Katherine Stockett - it's been around for a while - wasn't it an Oprah pick?  Have you read it?  Do you think it is a good book for group discussion?


 


JoanR

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« Reply #544 on: July 31, 2011, 01:04:01 PM »
My library came up with a copy of "The Elephant's Journey" but they had to borrow it from the system.  I've started it and think I'm going to enjoy it although I could use a little punctuation in the text.  Will probably get used to the way it's presented though!  There is a hugely sly and funny bit right at the beginning!

I hpoe it stays on our list!!  It's not new.  It was first pub. in 2008, then translated into English in 2010 & pub. in Britain.  This US edition is Houghton, Mifflin & Harcourt 2010.  There might be used copies available.

bellamarie

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« Reply #545 on: July 31, 2011, 01:06:45 PM »
Babi- I have not read it as of yet,but intend to.  My best friends have highly recommended it.
Kidsal-  Yes, that is the book I am referring to.  Had NO idea it was a movie, I think I would like to see the movie after I read the book.
JoanP` I think it could be a very interesting book to discuss.  I misspelled the author first name its Kathryn. Thank you.
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salan

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« Reply #546 on: July 31, 2011, 08:00:17 PM »
My ftf book club read and discussed The Help this year.  It was a good book and made for a good discussion.  I am looking forward to the movie; but I don't think I care to re read the book.
Sally

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« Reply #547 on: August 01, 2011, 08:44:16 AM »
I do remember that book drive, JOAN.  For a while I was in contact with an Indian
reservation on the border of Texas and sent them some books. But after a while
they quit responding.  I never could find out why.  I could only hope I hadn't offended in some way.

 From what I remember of the comments about "The Help" earlier, I was a bit
surprised to find different views even from people who lived in the South. Some said the book was realistic; others said it wasn't like that where they lived.
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

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« Reply #548 on: August 01, 2011, 03:26:06 PM »
I have often heard comments from people in all parts of the country that there was no racial prejudice where they lived. In some cases, it may be true, but more often it's the case that prejudice can be invisible to those who are not the subjects of it.

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« Reply #549 on: August 01, 2011, 11:34:13 PM »
JoanK
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 it's the case that prejudice can be invisible to those who are not the subjects of it.

This is a very powerful statement and probably true. 

The movie begins in my home town August 10th, so my dilemma is do I read the book first, or see the movie first?  The previews look like it will be a fun movie.
“What on earth could be more luxurious than a sofa, a book, and a cup of coffee?...Was ever anything so civil?”
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Babi

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« Reply #550 on: August 02, 2011, 09:05:00 AM »
 I certainly couldn't describe the book as 'fun',  but the ads for the movie do give
that impression.  Actually, the injection of more humor could be good and make
it a better film,  so long as they don't lose sight of the intended message.
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

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« Reply #551 on: August 02, 2011, 09:45:23 AM »
Bellamarie - You really should read the book before you see the movie - they are two "different kinds of kitty".  Reading the book will give you your own interpretation while seeing the movie will give you someone else's.
  "Fun"????? Prejudice couldn't be fun.  The movie trailers must be misleading.

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« Reply #552 on: August 03, 2011, 10:01:26 AM »
 From what I could tell from the trailer, JOAN, it wasn't the prejudice that was funny, by any
means.  But the 'help' themselves, among themselves, did find things to laugh about.  Often,
no doubt, their employers.  ::)
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« Reply #553 on: August 04, 2011, 12:08:49 PM »
JoanK - you are so right (just typed "tight" which has quite another meaning here...).  As I have probably already said (apologies) there is a huge amount of anti-English prejudice in Aberdeen, and my son was the butt of it for years at the local school.  He is quite sensitive and used to get so upset, especially as whenever racial prejudice was discussed in social education lessons, all the children would insist they were not racist - they were never horrible to the one Muslim boy in the class, probably because he was perceived as "cool", but my son was not cool and as a result was verbally tortured for years - it only really stopped in 5th and 6th year, when some of the worst offenders had left school, and the others had at last grown up a bit.  The families of these boys were perfectly respectable - the school was in an affluent area - and I can only assume that the parents had similar attitudes.  They simply did not see what they were doing as prejudice.

My elder daughter also suffered a bit at her school in Aberdeen, but she is the master of the put down and it soon stopped.

Fortunately my daughters have not encountered anything like this in Edinburgh, which has a much more cosmopolitan population.  And so far everyone in the village that we have just moved to has been really friendly, many people have come round to say hello, we have been invited to the village barbecue later this month, the girls have been asked out to play in the street with the other children - when we first moved to Aberdeen nobody spoke to us for weeks!

My mother's late sister lived in South Africa for the whole of her married life.  Both she and everyone I ever met through her always said that they were "not racist" and that apartheid was "necessary" because the black people were somehow inferior.  I was always amazed that these otherwise pleasant and well-educated people could spout these views; as you say, their prejudice was invisible to them.

Rosemary

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« Reply #554 on: August 04, 2011, 08:14:51 PM »
Okay maybe I should be a bit more clear on stating the movie may be fun!  I meant the previews show there are humorous parts to the movie, I saw an interview with the four women who are playing the characters and they seemed very likable and there are funny parts in the movie.  I am going to be spending the day with my two best friends at the movie, so YES, I intend it will be fun. 

Anytime there are racial matters tackled be it movies, books, TV, music, art, etc., etc.,  it brings awareness to where we've been, where we've come, and where we still need to go in this world.   RosemaryKaye I can only imagine as a parent how difficult it had to be for you to see your child be treated with prejudice, not to mention what it was like for the child.  I am so glad where you live now they do not have to deal with it.

JoanR~ Thanks for your advice, I am going to buy the book for my nook tonight and begin reading it before I go to see the movie.  I do still think it would make for a great discussion for our club, after all look how it has spurred on a discussion just by my recommendation.   :)
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« Reply #555 on: August 06, 2011, 09:38:24 PM »
JOAN P
So happy that someone else is reading "The Elephant's Journey" by Saramago.
The wit and satire become more apparent as you get into the narrative.  Also the personality of the Mahout and the royals starts to evolve.  It is really like a journey where you get to know the people (and the Elephant) as different circumstances just happen and you watch the different reactions of the various characters.
I think "learning to go with the flow" epitomizes the Mahout and his beast.

This was one book that I was sorry it ended.  I wish it had gone on and on.

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« Reply #556 on: August 06, 2011, 10:42:31 PM »
I find myself really taking time with Solomon, Jude.  Each page, each paragraph, each sentence is packed with ...wisdom, for lack of a better word.

I'm wondering how we could discuss a book like this.

Bella, I hope you didn't see the movie first.  JoanR said what I would have. 

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« Reply #557 on: August 07, 2011, 08:43:20 AM »
 You're really stirring up my interest in reading that book, JUDE.  I'm going to do some more
hunting.  Maybe my daughter's library or someone in my pb swap club will have it.
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« Reply #558 on: August 07, 2011, 10:41:27 AM »
Oh, Babi - do.  It would be such fun to discuss it together.  I know you would like it - the humor is so ...droll.

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« Reply #559 on: August 07, 2011, 12:22:50 PM »
Joan P
I usually read very fast.  With "The Elephants Journey" I couldn't read more that three or four pages a day.  Each page and paragraph was so packed full that it often necessitated rereading.

I thought that in his old age Saramago realized that there are many ways to skin a cat i.e. he could put some of his ideas into the lives of an Elephant and a Mahout in the 16th century.

I didn't even figure out why the elephant was named Solomon till I was well into the story.