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« Reply #80 on: April 08, 2017, 01:26:47 PM »
 
See the 2017 MASTERPIECE schedule

Let's talk about PBS programs that we enjoy.

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My Mother and Other Strangers
June 18, 2017

Set in Northern Ireland during World War Two, My Mother and Other Strangers follows the fortunes of the Coyne family and their neighbors as they struggle to maintain a normal life after a huge United States Army Air Force (USAAF) airfield, with 4,000 service men and women, lands in the middle of their rural parish.


  Grantchester, Season 3
June 18, 2017

James Norton (Happy Valley) stars as the handsome, jazz-loving vicar Sidney Chambers, with Robson Green as his law-enforcement ally, Inspector Geordie Keating, in Grantchester, a mystery series based on the acclaimed novels by James Runcie. When we last left the sleepy village, Sidney faced a moral dilemma: be with the woman he loves, or take the moral high road.


  Prime Suspect: Tennison
June 25, 2017

MASTERPIECE dials back the clock to spotlight the influences that turned 22-year-old rookie policewoman Jane Tennison into the savvy, single-minded crime fighter beloved by Prime Suspect viewers. Starring Stefanie Martini (Doctor Thorne) in the iconic role immortalized by Helen Mirren, Prime Suspect: Tennison airs in three riveting 90-minute episodes.

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King Charles III
May 14, 2017

The hit Broadway show King Charles III, starring Tim Pigott-Smith, adapted for television, imagines Prince Charles’ ascension to the throne following Queen Elizabeth’s death.


Dark Angel
May 21, 2017

Starring Downton Abbey‘s Joanne Froggatt, Dark Angel tells the story of Mary Ann Cotton: loving wife, mother, and serial murderer. Faced with abject poverty and an ailing husband, Mary Ann is ruthlessly determined to pursue a better life.


Home Fires, Season 2 - Final Season
April 2 - May 7, 2017

The Final Season of Home Fires follows the women of an English rural village as they are separated from their husbands, fathers, sons and brothers during World War 1 and must forge alliances among their diverse community.


Wolf Hall - Encore Presentation
April 2 - May 7, 2017

An encore presentation of Season 1 from 2015 of Wolf Hall. Adapted from Hilary Mantel’s best-selling Booker Prize-winning novels Wolf Hall and its sequel, Bring Up the Bodies, Wolf Hall follows the complex machinations and back room dealings of accomplished power broker Thomas Cromwell, who must serve king and country while dealing with deadly political intrigue, Henry VIII’s tempestuous relationship with Anne Boleyn, and the religious upheavals of the Protestant reformation.


To Walk Invisible The Bronte Sisters
March 26, 2017 (2 hours)

Written and directed by Sally Wainwright (Happy Valley, Last Tango in Halifax), To Walk Invisible depicts the evolution of secluded, dutiful clergyman’s daughters into authors of the most controversial fiction of the 1840s.



Victoria, Season 1
January 15 - March 5, 2017

A diminutive, neglected teenager is crowned Queen Victoria, who navigates the scandal, corruption, and political intrigues of the Court, and soon rises to become the most powerful woman in the world.


Sherlock, Season 4
January 1 - 15, 2017

Sherlock (with Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman) returns with three brand-new episodes that promise laughter, tears, shocks, surprises and extraordinary adventures.


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« Reply #81 on: April 08, 2017, 01:29:46 PM »
Not as pretty as Claire Foy. :) Nor the German Anne of Cleves, whom he thought was ugly. Look at those eyes of Cromwell, tho!

 I have to say tho that this morning thanks to Netflix, I was able to begin to watch the new  2017 season, the 5th year,  of Father Brown's series.  We can't get it here in the US on DVD, it only came out in  the UK a couple of months ago and hasn't been converted yet, but it's streaming on Netflix, and  there are 15!!! new episodes! Since the Latin classes are out this week, I'm binge watching.  The first is a Christmas one, and THAT one I am going to add to my  yearly viewing of Christmas Fare. Hokey? Maybe. Predictable? Maybe. Super fun? Definitely!

I did notice, however, in the last  scene when they raised a glass to "absent friends," that it was Sid and not "Monty" who was mentioned. I like Sid, a lot.  I don't think we've ever met "Monty," have we? Poor Felicia, he seems absent a LOT but no glass was raised to him.


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« Reply #82 on: April 10, 2017, 09:26:31 PM »
Just watched  an interesting video I ran across in my Amazon video, Holbein: Eye of the Tudors. It was obvious that the maker of the video was unhappy about the new version of history which is turning More into the bad guy and Cromwell into the good guy. Apparently Mantel is not the only one to express this revisionist version of history.

Okay, so I have a question. If Holbein was the one who painted the picture of Anne of Cleves which the King claimed deceived him as to Anne's beauty, then how is it that Cromwell got executed and not Holbein as well?

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« Reply #83 on: April 11, 2017, 10:07:37 AM »
Maybe that's why it has taken Mantel so long to write the 3rd book. :)

Wasn't Holbein famous for his likenesses? Henry liked the portraits Holbein did well enough of him and his children.

That's a good question. I don't know enough about British history to answer it.

 I have a feeling there's more to it than that, and that Norfolk and Gardiner had a hand in it, rivalry and jealousy,  and jockeying for position in the court...And then there was that  odd little thing in the first program where,  was  it Henry who asked  him about his feelings toward the clergy? And you can see Cromwell's stance.  He must have made a lot of enemies, especially in the dissolution of the monasteries.  I am interested, myself, in how he fell, but it was a serpent's nest he was dancing in, politically, anyway.

My thought on it is that Mantel is not as revisionist as she was trying to make the case that he wasn't the absolute monster he's been formerly portrayed as;  she's thrown in lots of unsympathetic things he did. There are always two sides. And so in the movie  they cast  Rylance with those sympathetic eyes, and he made the case pretty much.... for the movie, anyway. Holbein painted a different Cromwell, just LOOK at those piggy, mean little eyes, and if Holbein's as accurate as his fame insists, she MAY in fact BE doing revisionist history, it's a novel, after all.

Fascinating, isn't it?


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« Reply #84 on: April 11, 2017, 10:12:15 AM »
I have to ask, is that Wolsey's ring on Cromwell's finger in the portrait?? Is that why the movie made such a point of it?

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« Reply #85 on: April 11, 2017, 12:22:58 PM »
I hadn't noticed the ring in the portrait, Ginny.

I did notice that Rylance did a good job of getting his facial expression right. And I noticed that Holbein used a similar expression for several of his paintings, including his wife. They all seem to be there, but not there with that gaze. Kind of circumspect maybe, or like you might look if you were day dreaming or just not thinking about anything? I'd say sad, but that doesn't quite describe it. It struck me that Rylance's Cromwell, like the painting, didn't show any real (or intense) emotional expression, just that distant gaze no matter what was going on. Holbein's portrait of More is a bit different. There you can see an intensity in the forward leaning posture, in the eyes and to an extent, the facial expression, showing a keen interest in something not shown in the portrait.

Holbein didn't live more then a few years after Cromwell's execution. He died of the "sweating sickness" that took Cromwell's wife and girl's. I was wondering what it referred to and here is an answer. No one really knows, but many now think, thanks to the Four Corners outbreak in 1993, it was a form of hantavirus. http://theconversation.com/what-was-sweating-sickness-the-mysterious-tudor-plague-of-wolf-hall-37194

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« Reply #86 on: April 13, 2017, 07:32:28 AM »
Oh interesting, thank you! I wondered myself on the "sweating sickness," what a horror. That's why Henry VIII kept moving his court, to get away from whatever it was.  It's a miracle any of them ever lived between the plagues and this strange sickness:  imagine a broom causing such!!!  You can't win, can you? Try to keep a clean house and look what it gets you. :)

There's another portrait of Cromwell Holbein did and the eyes are different. He seems to have pretty much really hit at Cromwell in the one we know.  It interests me that the man playing More in this production looks more like the Erasmus painting of Holbein than he does the More one. That intense look you cite  can be taken  more than one way in the Holbein, too.

The Frick Collection which has supposedly the most accurate Holbein has another one of him by Jacobus Houbraken(1698−1780) and he looks a little different in the eyes area. He's almost normal looking here:

http://collections.frick.org/media/view/Objects/1020/511?t:state:flow=8143ea50-a31c-4bba-b574-bd04c55d9a41

Obviously not done from life. And this roundel from  Wikipedia is interesting, so all together there are more portraits of him without those awful eyes than with them, but that, perhaps, is what Holbein saw.


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« Reply #87 on: April 13, 2017, 08:42:42 AM »
The broom, yes. Hantavirus is a nasty thing that can be airborne spread. That is why, if you check on how to clean up mouse infested areas, you see recommendations to first wet down the area with bleach or the like, allow it to set a little bit and than wipe the stuff up, oh, and wear a dust mask. The premise is that wetting the area down will keep a lot from becoming airborne and the bleach may kill the virus.

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« Reply #88 on: May 11, 2017, 04:13:55 PM »
Well I've watched all of Wolf Hall again and the performances on the big screen never seem to amaze.

Next up is King Charles III, I can't wait to see it, I think it starts this Sunday night, am not sure how many episodes if any, but Tim Piggot Smith who just died stars in it, he of the Jewel in the Crown, and I am really looking forward to it, tho it appears it's causing some controversy in the UK. Diana is a ghost, for starters.


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« Reply #89 on: May 14, 2017, 09:01:07 AM »
I know nothing about King CharlesIII but the ads for it look enticing. So are you DVRing it while traveling?  We are so spoiled by all our gadgets. I think you can find it on Netflix to see it's a series.
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« Reply #90 on: May 14, 2017, 09:08:39 PM »
It's on now. It's different.

 Yes I'm taping it on the DVR.

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« Reply #91 on: May 14, 2017, 11:11:55 PM »
Is there anyone watching besides Ginny and me?  Is this what the English hope will happen?  After Elizabeth dies?
And there's Merrick from The Jewel In The Crown!!! Playing King Charles III!  Different, that's for sure.  But the acting was good! Did you think you were watching a Shakespeare play?

I wonder if Barbara is watching? Our poet!!🤓🤓
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« Reply #92 on: May 14, 2017, 11:35:49 PM »
Annie and Ginnie,   I watched Charles III and also the program "documentary" that followed.   
I hadn't read the info about it in my PBS Newsletter so didn't realize it was a play before it was a film.   I did think the dialogue sounded "Shakespearian" (is that a word?) and was glad to hear that the writer had planned it that way.
Apparently the cast of the film was also the cast of the play so it was interesting to hear their comments on being in both - as well as their comments on the characters they played.

I can see why it might cause controversy in the UK - "young upstarts" taking a hit at the aging future king in favor of someone from "their" generation.

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« Reply #93 on: May 15, 2017, 02:52:57 AM »
I haven't seen it and I don't think it's made much of an impact here, but I suppose no-one I know is that interested in the royal family.

The sad thing about it is that Tim Piggott Smith, whom I have admired ever since he played Merrick in The Jewel in the Crown, died suddenly and before the screening. Another fine actor gone. I still think of him in his creepy, repressed role as a cruel army officer in the dying days of the Raj. He was the lower middle class upstart, the one who wanted - but would never have - the easy confidence of the public school boys. The Jewel is one of those series that gives more every time you watch it - as a teenager I took it at face value, now I see more and more in its themes of power, oppression, bigotry and madness.

We're still working our way through the box set of Mad Men - another masterpiece that rewards on so many levels.

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« Reply #94 on: May 15, 2017, 09:26:27 AM »
Callie, wasn't that documentary fascinating? I wish I had DVRed the whole program.  Hope they reshow it so I can.  Does anyone know if anyone, other than Netflix,who aren't, is showing The Jewel in Crown? I would love to watch that again.
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« Reply #95 on: May 15, 2017, 12:42:03 PM »
It's rarely (if ever) shown on TV here Annie - it was a TV series rather than a film and they don't seem to repeat those old ones. I have the DVD. I have just had a look at US Amazon and it is available but much more expensive than it is here. May be worth it though!

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« Reply #96 on: May 15, 2017, 04:16:00 PM »
Rosemary, one of the credits at the end of "King Charles III' was an announcement "In Memory of Tim Piggot Smith ??? (didn't catch birth year) - 2017.
Was the stage production presented in the UK?  If so, what kind of a "run" did it have?


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« Reply #97 on: May 15, 2017, 06:04:09 PM »
Ann, the BBC Shop online, (shopbbc.com) has the Jewel in the Crown,  the 14 episodes remastered version, on DVD, $35.00, and the introductions by Alistair Cooke. 12 1/2 hours. Amazon has the 25th year edition for the same price, I didn't read further about the extras or the remastered stuff. :)

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« Reply #98 on: May 17, 2017, 10:35:26 AM »
Thanks everybody who looked it up!
I think I will order it later this summer after I check with the sites who have it as to how long it will take it to get here.  You know PBS shows every once in a awhile.  I remember the when it was shown in GB for the first time it was said that the crime rate went down and no one was out on the streets when it was on.  They were all so entranced with story.
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« Reply #99 on: May 17, 2017, 03:53:08 PM »
Annie, I was just speaking about that with a friend the other day - how we all used to be so transfixed by some of the excellent series made at that time. There was of course no catch-up TV, and you could not buy the DVD, so you all watched it at the same time and discussed it the next day. Other series in the same vein were The Forsythe Saga, The Onedin Line, A Dance to the Music of Time, Poldark (original version with Angharad Rees) and Brideshead Revisited.

I was idly watching the slightly ridiculous Rosemary and Thyme last night (it's repeated endlessly on our digital channels) and who should pop up as a rather camp teacher in a boys' boarding school but Anthony Andrews - the very same Anthony Andrews who so brilliantly played Sebastian in Brideshead. He looked almost the same after all these years, and seemed to be acting more or less the same part! I was of course madly in love with him at the time, despite Sebastian being a less than salubrious character, and I have to say he is still quite attractive.

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« Reply #100 on: May 18, 2017, 08:11:19 PM »
You know I have a copy of Brideshead on vcr tape.  I might watch it again to see if Sebastian was really so good looking!  And he  is on Rosemary and Thyme!!     I think I will just google this mess!      Hahaha! 
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« Reply #101 on: June 10, 2017, 11:17:19 AM »
Masterpiece has three series beginning this month! See the heading above for more information about MY MOTHER AND OTHER STRANGERS, GRANTCHESTER, SEASON 3 and PRIME SUSPECT: TENNISON.

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« Reply #102 on: June 14, 2017, 09:23:17 AM »
Fans of the Great British Bake Off Alert!

The newest one (and the last one featuring Mary, Mel, Sue, and Paul)   will premiere this Friday June 16 on your local PBS station!

Don't miss it!

"Season 4 premieres Friday, June 16th

Follow the trials and tribulations of passionate amateur bakers whose goal is to be named the U.K.’s best. Each week, the bakers tackle a different skill, the difficulty of which increases as the competition unfolds. Mary Berry, a leading cookbook writer, and Paul Hollywood, a top artisan baker, serve as judges. Together with hosts and comic foils Sue Perkins and Mel Giedroyc, Berry and Hollywood search for the country’s best amateur baker by testing the competitors’ skills on cakes, breads, pastries and desserts, crowning a winner after 10 weeks of competition."

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« Reply #103 on: June 16, 2017, 05:21:40 PM »
we also had a series with just Mary and Paul baking themselves with no contestants - quite nice - the friendship between the two was observable - wasn't there a third judge in the originals? if so who was it? 

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« Reply #104 on: June 17, 2017, 04:48:49 AM »
Would be interesting to see them baking themselves Barb  :D What would Mary be? A Victoria Sandwich, I think...

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« Reply #105 on: June 17, 2017, 07:43:44 AM »
Those Master Classes, Barb? I taped them all, those were really nice,  but the Hopper 3, a new device that recorded them,  lost them all, just deleted them, nobody seems to know why at DISH,  while I was in Europe. Shame. Perhaps I could buy them and have them to keep that way. It seems to be happening to a lot of people but they are not talking about it, my brother in law had the same thing  happen in another state.

It was just Paul and Mary as judges but Sue and Mel were the sort of entertainers and MC's. And they'd sit at the judging table and ask questions of the judges. It was a good show.

:) Rosemary. I didn't know what a "sponge" was until I went to England the first time. I just saw a photo of Mary and the Queen at the Chelsea Flower Show when I was there. 

Terrible terrible  fire in that high rise in London. I can't understand how it got on ALL the floors like that so quickly. What a horror.

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« Reply #106 on: June 17, 2017, 02:20:05 PM »
 :D  :D and Paul could be a humpty dumpty made of sponge cake encasing a boiled egg -

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« Reply #107 on: July 14, 2017, 01:54:15 PM »
Hi (belatedly) Ginny - yes, the Grenfell Tower fire was a terrible, terrible thing. As we now know it spread so fast owing to the insulation and cladding on the building, neither of which were fit for purpose, both of which had been used to save money (this is social housing). The people who lived in the tower were very poor, many were immigrants, but the block is in the middle of the London Borough of Kensington, one of the richest parts of London and indeed of the entire UK. Billionaires live (or rather own huge investment properties, often left empty) just a few roads away. This should never have happened. It is a clear indictment of the way British society seems to be going - the poor becoming ever poorer, the rich becoming obscenly wealthy.

By contrast, last weekend I went to see a wonderful film Summer in the Forest, about Jean Vanier and the L'Arche Communities. Vanier (a French Canadian former navy officer) started the first one in northern France in the 1960s, when he realised how badly special needs people were being treated - usually locked up in asylums. There are now about 150 communities worldwide - wonderful places, though he is keen to emphasise that they are not utopias but just places where people can lead a 'normal' life. Some of the residents are profoundly disabled, others not so much. Some have suffered brain damage, for others it is not a physical thing, but the result of terrible experiences. No one is financially rich, no one is financially poor. What a contrast to what so-called normal society seems to have become.




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« Reply #108 on: July 24, 2017, 09:37:48 AM »
 Rosemarykaye,  I did not know this: The people who lived in the tower were very poor, many were immigrants, but the block is in the middle of the London Borough of Kensington, one of the richest parts of London and indeed of the entire UK.

I did wonder how they managed to evacuate quite a few buildings of the same cladding in the surrounding neighborhoods as a precautionary measure,  and it never occurred to me it was low rent housing!! I kept thinking boy I am glad I don't live in a high rise in the area, how can they force people out,  and rethinking my stay in the next hotel on a high floor.  Just a horror.

Somebody told me oh you're OK if there is a sprinkler system, just ask first, and I'm thinking no amount of sprinklers would  have stopped that but I may be wrong.

(I thought of you, believe it or not, when I returned to London for the second time this summer and had to go thru Victoria. I remembered what you said, and  I did avoid the STEPS, because of some kind of tendon or ligament issue I've had  in one leg)... (that's my excuse for taking a cab there) hahaha  It was worth it, too.

Have you been able to see the new Father Brown? I understand it started in January in the UK? How do you like it? How does it compare to the others? Are either of the two missing characters back at all?

We're getting  the "new" season here now, they are calling it "7," the first full  one which does not have Lady Felicia or Sid in any of them tho Sid has returned once from prison,  and left again, I understand he's to be on Broadway this fall. You can't help but wish them well,  but they really are missed.  (I did try some of Father Brown's lemon drops and humbugs and all I can say is they must be an acquired taste. But my grandson had his first millionaire's bar or shortbread  whatever they are called and is a fan for life.)  :) 

Summer in the  Forest sounds wonderful, I will look for it.