Romance Books ~ 5/01 to 6/02 Export

I think that today’s Romantic Novel is the extension of the genre established during the late eighteenth and early part of the nineteenth century starting with the French Revolution. Authors like; Shelley, Jane Austin, Coleridge, the Brontës, James Fenemore Cooper, Byron, Wordsworth, Emerson and Keats.

Wordsworth thinks that real knowledge about life is in nature, not science. "Science misses the whole purpose and beauty of nature in the name of knowledge," Wordsworth says.

Nature or the natural means emotions, imagination, creativity versus logic and reason, the classical thought or system of science.

Current Romantic Novels are more often a story involving decisions that stem from the heart, the emotions rather than a pragmatic solution to an issue. Also, the description of the surrounding location is usually described centered in nature and the steel and glass of the corporate world is often the symbol of the bad guy or woman.

The ideal Romantic Woman as an "Angel of the House" applies not only to the Romantic period, but also the preceding ages. This Angel is a “pure, charming, sympathetic, domestic, self-sacrificing, subservient and selfless" woman who "lacks individual desire or mind, leads an ordinary life, but guides her man to greatness." This feminine ideal was embedded in a "profound belief in sexual difference, according to which men were seen as naturally dominant, active and strong, while women were naturally subordinate, passive and weak."

Such "common knowledge" of women's physical and intellectual inferiority was reinforced through various discourses, including manuals, magazines, conduct books, sermons and 'scientific' studies. Women's ideal course in life was to be an obedient daughter, devoted wife and compliant widow (as need be), and should not be independent of men.

Today we have independent women but Romance stories often show the struggle of how she combines or bypasses these Angelic attributes with her strong will and expectation for personal success.

Romantic writers, do not make love to women, but instead make love to nature and woman as an icon or symbol of natural behavior and emotions. Emerson notes, "I am the lover of uncontained and immortal beauty."

Anger and hatred, like "the ugly" in discussions of the sublime and the beautiful, provide useful counters to any discussion based on sexual politics and romantic fantasy.

These are the same themes played out today in Romantic Novels.

Throughout the Romantic period, individuals became greatly intrigued by the imaginary potential of common individuals, and by the extraordinary power accessible to each individual. More attention was given to the common wo/man, those leading simple lives and being found in ordinary circumstances.

Again we still read about those living simple lives rather than the national hero of myth making proportions. We read about the individuals coming into their power or using their individual power rather than massing the power of many. The characters use their individual power to affect their problems.

Good Morning! I like what you are doing with the new discussion group. I'm glad to be here.

I read Romance for the happy ending. So I guess that is my currend definition of romance. At the end of many days I pick up a book to read because I know when I start it the ending is going to be a happy one.

I read Sandra Brown and Nora Roberts and Jan Karon-- and many whose names are not as well known--and I sleep just fine without a sleeping pill. Some of them that I may read, I will not remember that I have read them. I don't study them. I read just to relax.

I have my name on the list at the library for Jan Karon's The Common Life. It is one I'll remember. I think it fits both the classical and modern definitions of romance.

Wynona

WYNONA: I am like you in that I don't always remember the books I have read and I want them to end happily. I don't like it when there is a lot of violence in the middle on the way to the happy ending. Finally, I started making a list of the books I have and checking off those I have read. I was buying a lot of books on eBay and often getting duplicates of what I had. I don't mind reading something over again usually but there are so many books to read that I shouldn't have to do that.

SUE: As I was reading Nicholas Sparks' book, I thought about the fact that all the Romance novels I have been reading over the years were by women. I wonder if any of them were written by men under a pseudonym?

BARBARA: You are right that the books I have read, at least, are about "those living simple lives rather than the national hero". I am more interesting about reading about men and women who seem real to me than ones who live in the public eye.

HI , its nice to be in a romance discussion group. I'm a lot like Wynona and Marjorie, I have certain authors that I really enjoy but most of the time I pick a book for the title and it doesn't have to be romance, I like the Sharon McComb series and some suspense romance books and a variety but mostly I come back to Brown, Coulter, Spencer etc. Right now I'm reading WHITE LIES, AND HEARTBREAKER, by Linda Howard, They are old stories which I might have read in the past but I'm enjoying them again. Shirley T.

So many posts here but to go back a ways. N.Joan answered the question of who wrote Firefly Summer so thanks to here. Marjorie and anyone else who reads it, keep a list of characters. I swear she has the entire town in the story. I too have started some of hers books only to put them down. This has put her in a class of authors I would just as soon not read even tho I know she is a good author. Why am I reading this one? It must be left over from the Romance Book Sale I went to a year ago. I finally got rid of most of the ones I hadn't read but kept this one because of the author and wanting to give her another chance. So far it has kept my interest and since you say it is one of her better ones, I'll read it all. I haven't been reading much lately so it is going slowly.

When I was out today, I bought Carolina Moon by Nora Roberts and Always Dakota by Debbie Macomber--two of my favorite authors. But, Majorie, I'm interested in what you said about buying on Ebay. I've never tried it, but I know my son buys and sells computer stuff on there all the time. I just didn't think about shopping there for books. Would you post some further information about doing that? How current are the books that you buy? How much does the shipping usually cost? I'm really interested in giving this a try.

Wynona

WYNONA: When I shop on eBay, I go to www.ebay.com and either put a title or an author in the search box for Books and search title and description. [I think if you go there you will be able to figure out the way it works. If not you can email me with your questions.] Then I get a list of items that are for sale and I check the ones that look interesting. Usually the seller puts the shipping cost in the description. If they don't, you can email them and ask.

PETITE ONE: Thanks for the advice to keep a list of characters if I read Firefly Summer. I will try to do that when (if) I get the book.

Marjorie

I picked up my copy of LuAnne Rice's Follow the Stars Home today while Bob was getting his chemotherapy. I'll start reading it as soon as I finish The Wedding Raffle by Geralyn Dawson. I expect to finish it tonight.

The Wedding Raffle is a pretty good read. The setting is the territory of Texas following the fall of the Alamo and prior to becoming a state. The heroine is a widow (3 times) who is rumored to have murdered her husbands. The hero is a former Texas Ranger. There is a mystery and intrigue as well as a budding romance. This is the first book I've read by Dawson, but I would recommend it to romance readers who enjoy a Western theme.

I'll copy this post and put it in our new home, just in case everyone has moved over there. Sue

Wynona, I haven't bought from E-Bay, but Marjorie had also mentioned Half.Com as a good source for used books. I've bought 2 from them for 79 cents and 95cents. The postage was about $2.00 for each book, so this was even less than my Tradin Books store where you can buy the books for 1/2 list price or get them for your trade. I always have lots to trade so I usually have credit. I bought Follow the Stars Home to day for my credit slip plus 45 cents.

Marjorie, I'm not sure, but I know there is a husband and wife team that writes primarily romances. I think they might be "Fern Michaels" but they could be "Judith Michaels". You know that would be a good plot for a romance novel: the male author who keeps his identity secret falls in love with neighbor or lawyer, etc. Actually I saw a silly movie where a male was the author of romance novels in Paris. He used his mother as his cover. She did the book tours, etc. under his pseudonym. The heroine won a contest for writing a chapter for his new book and they fall in love.

Firefly Summer has gotten to the point that I really do hate to put it down. There are many characters to the story, but I haven't felt the need to keep a list. Binchy is moving the story forward in the traditional way, no flash backs or other such devices. I don't even think there is a main character, but some who would be considered stars and supporting cast. It is a long book -- 662 pages in paperback.

I have been a Binchy fan for quite a while now, but haven't gotten my hands on her new one yet. I am on the waiting list at the library.

I like to read Maeve Binchy's books and have just finished "Scarlet Feather," not exactly a romance novel, but it did have a good flavor. I do like most of her books and I like her settings.

Welcome BETTYBOP. Glad you could join us. What other authors do you enjoy?

I may be on time with a book for once?? I went to my used book store today and got my copy of Follow the stars home. I am finishing a Linda Howard book tonight and will start the new one tonight. Also picked up Judith Kranz Spring Collection and Belva Plain's After The Fire. Along with all the mysteries I have that should keep me going for a little while.I really loved Cloud Nine so am interested to see how Follow The Stars is.

I started Follow the Stars Home last night. So far, I haven't gotten really interested. Diane's problems with the accident and life long with Julia are pretty depressing. Right now I'm needing to read things that cheer me up. Maybe in a couple of pages, I'll get into it. At least I hope so. Sue

Thanks, Marjorie and SpringCreekFarm for the help in ways and places to buy used books.

Yesterday I brought Sandra Brown's Breakfast in Bed home from the library. At the very beginning the hero of the story says that he is having trouble with a book he is writin--whether to have his main character choose duty or love. Immediately the reader knows the theme of the book and the problem to be faced by the two main characters. I am looking for the happy ending. That is the purpose of my reading the book. Guess I'll find out.

I have tried to read Maeve Binchy, but so far I have never completed one of her books. I must be choosing the wrong ones. However, most of the time I don't go for the long read. With all of the recommendations, it looks like I shall have to try again.

Wynona

Wynona, I've read Sandra Brown's Breakfast in Bed and I enjoyed it, especially as it was a fast read. I'm not a very thoughtful reader, though, and didn't think about Brown setting the theme with the writer telling us his theme. It does have a happy ending, of course, which is my favorite thing in a romance novel. Sue

I just got a copy of Linda Howard's White Lies. I probably won't be reading it right away but it is here. I have lots of books waiting to be read. At bedtime now I am reading the Velvet series by Jude Delinsky about the Montgomery family in Medieval times.

Katherine Stone I haven't read her books --yet. But have Happy Endings in my 'to read' agenda. What do you all think of her work?

Sue - I would suggest you not try to read Firefly Summer at this time. Right now it is dealing with many of unpleasant parts of life, and while I will finish the book, I find it a bit depressing.

Thanks for the tip, GinnyAnn. I have read Firefly Summer before, but I don't remember the story. I'm still reading Follow the Stars Home but it isn't making me happy.

Before I started this book yesterday I read Nora Roberts Considering Kate, one of the Stanislavski series. I enjoyed the book, but on the last page I suddenly burst into tears and it wasn't even sad, but a happy poignant occasion. I think I need to read some of Bill Bryson's travel books. He is pretty funny! Sue

Just stopping by to say I will be gone May 7-27. I finished Follow the Stars Home and I did enjoy it. I can see where it could strike you as depressing, but it also shows lots of love.

I read Belva Plain's After the Fire. Thought it was quite good as well.

Northern Joan

GINNY ANN: I have been keeping a list of the book I have read and next to Katherine Stone's Twins I have **. Usually I just put a check mark that I read it. I read it some time ago. I guess it really "hit the spot" at the time.

SUE: Follow The Stars Home is one that I was ambivalent about. I definitely liked Cloud Nine better.

NORTHERN JOAN: I hope you will be going somewhere fun when you are away for much of May.

Not much new today.

Marjorie

Marjorie --I also keep track of all the books I have read. Right now I am in the process of recording them onto my computer. I used to have it on my Mac, but I gave that to my son and his girlfriend. She is a college student and needs it for all the papers she has to write.But I have digressed. At this point I have over 500 books recorded. I record the title, author, copyright, date read, rating, ISBN and more. It is a lot of work but worth it.

Sue, Firefly Summer concerns the goings on of Fernwood, Ireland after a rich American came to town and built a big hotel.
Nora Roberts Considering Kate was fun. I have read all of the ones that came before it. Well, I did miss one because I haven't been able to find it. I am looking for the one that follows her stepbrother's love life.

GINNY ANN: Do you have a database to put your book list on? That sounds like the easiest thing to do if you keep so much information. I only keep author and title and whether I read it or not. I might take what I have in MSWord and put it in Excel because that acts might make it easier to store the information. If it is in Excel maybe I will add more information to it. I have less than 350 books listed.

The data base came with my Microsoft Works software. I got it as a package deal when I bought my Gateway Computer. It was very easy to setup! Excel's spreadsheet software is harder to work with. I have tried to go that way but found it more work than it was worth. I think you may already have it if you have Microsoft Word. I will check latter and get back with you on how to find it.

GinnyAnn and Marjorie: Bob and I keep a database of the books we buy in Microsoft Works. We used to have one in our Apple IIE and would hand write some in. Bob has completed his transfer to Works. So far I'm just up to H. I've already typed in 619 books. We keep the printouts in a ringbinder and take it to the used book store so we don't buy duplicates. We only have author and title and can sort by either. We primarily sort by author's last name. Sue

I too keep a database of the books that I read, but mine is not quite as detailed as some of yours. I do try to keep a short summary that helps me remember whether I have read the book or not. I had not thought about keeping the ISBN, yet that is what the lilbrary needs if someone needs to order it for interlibrary loan. I started making of database of what I had read when I joined the library's adult reading program. We had to list the books we had read and sometimes the category (romance, mystery, etc.) because we were in a contest and had to read certain kinds. One time it was the number of pages; another time it was the number of books. Therefore, my lists usually run by "library season". It is still worthwhile.

My information is kept on a Mac. This particular computer I've had about five years.

GinnyAnn, is it Waiting for Nick that you are looking for? I thought I had it some place in my store of books, but I haven't run a cross it yet. My books are't stored by author or any other order I know of except a "vacant place on a shelf or in a box" depending on what I intend to do with them--send them to someone, give to the library, keep because I liked the book very much, or haven't read it yet which is the largest group.

Wynona

I tried when I got off SeniorNet yesterday to put the chart I have in Excel but it didn't work. I started using the MSWorks database too. I just haven't gotten very far yet. I might add more information than I now have since it is a database.

I thought you all might be interested in an email I received this morning:

Tea and scones anyone? Writerspace.com will host an interactive real-time/online chat during a tea at the Celebrate Romance Conference on Saturday, May 5th between 3:30 p.m. and 5:00 p.m. Special guest New York Times bestselling author Diana Palmer will be on hand, along with fellow New York Times bestseller, Mary Jo Putney, and bestselling authors Patricia Potter, Ann Lawrence, Nicole Jordan, Patricia Rice, Kathy Carmichael, Julie Elizabeth Leto, and many more.

The live chat will take place simultaneously in "real time" and online at Writerspace.com in a special chatroom - http://www.writerspace.com/chat/bigevents - web cams will feed live video shots of the party room as tea attendees chat via laptop with those of you logged in from home. Hope to see you there!

It is Microsoft Works -- not Word -- that I have my book data base stored. In case of crashes I print out a hardcopy everyone in a while. lol. I also save it to a disk. It sure is interesting to look at it and see which authors have the most books listed! Nora Roberts and Sandra Brown both have long lists.

Wynona I think that is the title!

The new Maeve Binchey is a thick book!

I'm new to romance books discussion. My two favorite romance books are Christy by Catherine Marshall and Ethan Frome by Edith Wharton. Christy was a book that touched my heart so much that when I finished it all I wanted to do is hug it! A wonderful love and true story. Ethan Frome is a wonderful story that has stayed with me for over a year. It is a story about a man (Ethan Frome) who has a dream of becoming someone but because of his mother illness and death and the marriage of the wrong woman caused his dream to defer. By the way Christy will be on television next Sunday (PAX).

Hi BRUMMIE: Welcome. I will watch for Christie when it comes on TV next week. Thanks for mentioning it. I haven't read either of the books you mentioned yet.

Brummie, I read Christy many years ago and it is a heartwarming story, semi-autobiographical, yet told in a fiction format. I thoroughly enjoyed it and reread it every now and then. I'll look for it on TV next week.

Did anyone watch the presentation tonight of Follow the Stars Home? I didn't. I've finished the book and found the ending satisfactory, but it sure was a depressing story.

I quickly read Heaven, Texas by Susan Elizabeth Phillips yesterday and today. It was hilarious. I really enjoy light romances with funny dialogue. There was nothing depressing in this story. Now I've started Dream a Little Dream by the same author. It seems to be more serious. It's about loss and betrayal, similar themes to Follow the Stars Home, but doesn't seem like it will be as depressing. Sue

SUE: I have Fancy Pants by Susan Elizabeth Phillips. I haven't started reading it yet. I hope it is one that is light. We get TV programs later than the rest of the country. Follow The Stars Home starts at 9pm Pacific Time. I have the VCR set to record it.

Brumie, I am Ginger, remember me? So good to see you here. Great Group of people here so just enjoy the company and I will be around also, love christy.

Sue, I did watch Follow the Stars Home tonight and enjoyed it as it hit pretty close to home for me. Thanks to whoever mentioned it here as I might have missed it.

Ginger

Hi Everyone, I'm so happy I got to click on the right link to find our new home.I'm trying to make my way thru I think Maeve Binchy's newest book Scarlet Feather and I'm having trouble keeping up with all the characters and changes of scenes describing their lives. Is this typical of her writing since it's the first one of her books I've read?Dorothy

I watched Follow the Stars Home last night and it seemed to be pretty close to the book. Both the book and the movie left me wanting something. I am not sure what I wanted. Maybe I just liked Fly Away Home so much that unconsciously I am comparing them.

After my last post I thought about what I said. I think the men in Fly Away Home were stronger personalities than the ones in Follow the Stars Home. I liked the women in both books. In Fly Away Home (by Kimberly Cates) I was cheering on the characters; trying to solve their problems; and hoping the story would come out a certain way. I don't remember having that reaction to the other story.

I hate to tell you this because I like all of you Romance Books readers. I wouldn't want any of you to think I'm hardhearted, but I thought Diane in Follow the Stars Home was just too good to be true. Where was her frustration and anger, not with Tim who'd abandoned her because we could see that also her resentment toward Alan because he reminded her of Tim, but with Julia? Didn't she ever say "Oh, Lord, why me?" She always seemed so perfect, so understanding, never losing her temper, etc.

I realize Julia was an innocent child who didn't ask to be born the way she was. I just think parenting a child like that is extremely difficult and IMO most people would have some resentment along with that overwhelming love that Diane showed Julia. It just didn't ring true with me.

I hope I haven't offended anyone with this comment. I've worked with children with multiple disabilities and enjoyed them, but I was always glad when school was over. Diane never had any relief. I did. I don't think I could have coped 24 hours a day, 7 days a week for 11 years. Sue

SUE: Maybe Diane's behavior is part of what left me unsatisfied with the book. She did seem too good to be true.

There must be as many types of romance books as there are mysteries.

I was at the library yesterday to attend a lecture about butterfly gardens and found the new Jan Karon book, A Common Life. I am looking forward to reading the book as well as just look at it. It is really a beautiful book. The desigh throughout the book is definitely appropriate for "A Wedding Story." I can only have it for a week since there are so many people wanting to check it out.

Wynona

Romance stories keep us young at heart no matter our age. The setting can be the middle of a nasty murder case or in the past at some palace or court. What matters is the tension between the two main protaganists. If it is a novel not classified as a romance you don't know if it will end happily. I like novels but I love good romances that can make me feel good.

Me, too, GinnyAnn. I definitely like to feel good when I finish reading the book, not depressed or upset. That's one of the reasons I love romances with their fairy tale endings.

Wynona, I've heard lots of people talking about the new Jan Karon book. I want to read it as soon as I can get a copy from my library. Sue

I just finished this book by Jan Karon. And it is best read I think after reading the other five books in the series. At the wedding you get to meet again all the old friends that you made along the way through the series. And the book is full of smiles.

Wynona

WYNONA: Do you know the names of all the books in the series and their order? If I decide to get them I will want to get the entire series.

Marjorie you will never be sorry if you buy the whole series, its definately something I want to keep. I could e-mail you the list if you like but am off to work right now.

Marjorie, The books by Jan Karon in order are At Home in Mitford; A Light in the Window; These High, Green Hills; Out to Canaan; A New Song; and A Common Life. This is an excellent series of books that I highly recommend. Haven't some of them been discussed on SeniorNet before? I wasn't part of the group at the time, but I thought I saw them mentioned some place.

Another book that I'm looking forward to reading is Thursdays at Eight by Debbie Macomber. It is supposed to be out next month.

I have just started Bridget Jones's Diary by Helen Fielding. It is to be used for a discussion group at my library next week.

Wynona

Katherine Stone's novel Happy Endings is a good read. I am about half way through it and I am looking forward to a happy ending for all the characters. It has three stories. The reader knows of the connections, but the characters do not.

WYNONA: Thanks for the list of Jan Karon's books. I will let you know when I start reading them. The first 5 books of the series were discussed before. The discussions are in the Archives under Fiction. There is a clickable for the Archives in the heading if you are interested.

GINNY ANN: I have only read one of Katherine Stone's books and that was Twins. I will look for Happy Endings.

I am reading Barbara Delinsky's Three Wishes. I have been enjoying the book. Although I am not at the very end of the book yet, I don't think I like how it will end. I hope by the time I am finished I will. I shouldn't make a statement before the story is complete.

Hi JUDY.

Marjorie

Marjorie: I've read Three Wishes and if I'm remembering correctly the ending is satisfying but poignant. I may have it confused with another of Delinsky's books. She knows how to get the reader involved in the story, I think. Sue

SUE: I finished the book after I posted last. I think I would agree with your choice of the word "poignant" to describe the ending. I just wanted something different.

Just a few words of greeting to all upon returning .

We had a lovely trip. Did a lot of driving and saw a lot of beautiful places. Among other locales, we visited northwest Canada, Vancouver and Victoria in particular. It was fun after we crossed the Canadian border because we passed some towns named after Revolutionary War British generals whom I had been educated to think of as enemies. In Canada they were evidently heroes worthy of being commemorated. Quite a lesson in perspective, that!

I've now got about two bushels of mail to go through, tons of laundry to deal with, and a lot of personal routine to catch up with. Even so, home sure feels good. It's particularly good to say hello to all of you.

I had brought some books with me and hoped to do some reading while I was away, but I didn't succeed. Tomorrow I'll visit the library and renew my books. I haven't yet had a chance to catch up with all the posts on this lovely new site, but it's fun making a start.

I enjoyed going away, but I'm definitely pleased to be home again and talking with you all.

Harriet

Welcome back HARRIET! I am pleased you had such a great trip.

I just finished reading the book Maggie's Beau by Carolyn Davidson. It is a Harlequin Historical and I didn't expect much from it. Was I pleasantly surprised. I will be looking for more Carolyn Davidson books. This one is set in early America, after the Civil War. The main theme of the book is how a young woman left an abusive home and, with a lot of courage, made a place for herself. Of course, the man in the story treated her well, taught her to trust and even taught her to read along the way.

Welcome to all who are reading this post. Please just post and tell us what you are reading or have enjoyed before.

Hot Ice is a fun fast read. I am about half way through it and I just started it yesterday. The 'hero' is a thief and the heroine a rich, bored blonde. They are running for thier lives in Madagascar.

While I was at the beach I read two Debbie Macomber novels. The first I read had 2 stories which were related, Country Brides. It was OK, but not up to her usual. The second, Sooner or Later was much better. It was about a semi-retired soldier of fortune and a spinster postal worker who went to a fictional Central American country to rescue the heroine's brother who was a missionary. It had humor and suspense as well as romance which is why I enjoyed it. Sue

Hi GINNY ANN and SUE. I have Hot Ice on the shelf with other books waiting to be read. Every couple of days I manage to finish one and start a new one. In the meantime I keep buying new books. I guess I will never come out even and that's OK. I won't get bored that way.

A while back I read The Nazi Officer's Wife by Edith Hahn Beer for a book discussion group in my neighborhood. It is a romance only by the most unusual standards and is a true, autobiographical account of survival by a Jewish woman in Nazi Germany.

Edith Hahn is a brilliant young law student in 1938 who needs to pass only one more examination to complete her law degree. However she is denied admittance to that final exam and expelled from her University because she is a Jew. With the help of friends she creates an Aryan identity and lives a life of constant fear and deception in order to survive.

She meets a Nazi officer who is willing to marry her and keep her identity secret even after she eventually confesses that she is Jewish. The marriage is one of constant strain and fear since Edith tries to avoid antagonizing her pro-Nazi, anti-Jewish husband in any way. She represses all of her normal impulses and becomes the domestic, obedient hausfrau of her husband's fantasies.

The book was harrowing and stressful, but also fascinating. Edith survives the war and when her true bold and brilliant personality emerges in the comparative safety of post-war Germany, her horrified husband demands a divorce. She is no longer the helpless, subordinate little dove that he loved.

The book is NOT primarily a romance and graphically describes the terror of being Jewish in Nazi Germany.

Harriet

Today I started Nora Roberts' True Betrayals. As I was reading this something said to me that the male love interests in the story were pretty typical. These men are horse trainers and breeders. I have read books about doctors, athletes, policemen, firemen, investigators, etc., etc. I don't remember reading a story where the main male love interest worked in a bank or office! How come?

Hi HARRIET. Good description of the book you read.

Marjorie

Well, Marjorie, have you ever seen a sexy, sensitive banker? All the bankers I know seem to have an attitude toward women. However, lots of heroes seem to start out that way and change. That seldom happens in real life. Sue

I don't know a sexy, sensitive banker or a sexy, sensitive engineer. However, there must be one somewhere.

I do know one sexy, sensitive engineer: I married him! Bob got his degree in Civil Engineering, but only used it as a side line as he was a career Navy pilot. When we were building this house from the ground up, he used his slide rule and lots of those formulas he learned way back when. I will have to say that he developed his sensitive side rather slowly, just as I developed my independent feminist nature through the years. The end results have been terrific. Sue

SUE: What can I say? Congratulations. I was married to an engineer for 27 years but wouldn't characterize him as either sexy or sensitive. You are lucky to have found the right man.

Maybe that's why you don't think engineers are sexy. Some of them can be pretty rigid. I have been lucky these past 43 years as Bob has been willing to compromise and understand and accept my point of view, even as it changed. I'm so happy he didn't turn out like his Dad--now there was an insensitive lout, if I ever saw one! Sue

In another discssion someone asked "What books or authors can you count on for soothing reading?" I plan on answering by saying Nora Roberts. Her heros always come through in the end. I just finished one of hers and jumped right into another. She helps me get through those times when I would rather not have to think, but just relax and enjoy. She has said that shes know men because of her brothers. I know I have been married 33 years to a wonderful man. He is not perfect - thank goodness - because then I would have to be perfect. lol

I read romances as an escape when I'd rather avoid thinking about things. I like Nora Roberts for soothing reading, too, GinnyAnn. Your comment about having to be perfect is so true. It ought to be branded on our foreheads! Sue

Today I finished Nora Robert's True Betrayals. I have been reading lots of other authors and it felt good to get back to a book of hers. There is definitely a mystery in this book and I was surprised how much I enjoyed it.

I've been reading Diana in Private, The Princess Nobody Knows by Lady Colin Campbell. It was written in l992, before a lot of the personal information about the royal marriage became public, and before Diana's death. However Charles and Diana's marriage was already acknowledged as rocky.

I'm having a lot of fun with it. I once read that those who knew Diana and Charles personally divided themselves into two camps: pro HIM or pro HER. Plainly, this author is pro HIM. She insists that Camilla Parker Bowles is simply Charle's confidante and dear friend. No romance at ALL, says Lady Campbell. She paints Diana as manipulative and jealous.

Apart from the author's opinions, the fairy-tale quality of both of their aristocratic life styles shines through in this book, even with the impending disasters that we all know will be coming. The best part is that the passage of time has placed any reader in a really privileged position. It isn't often that I know the REAL truth when I read about public figures. In this case, everything that is true or not true in the book is distinguishable to those of us readers who may have followed the tabloids about Charles and Diana. We know all about his and her affairs as opposed to the squeaky clean accounts of Lady Campbell in her book.

What a scandal! What fun! What a fairy tale environment with the sadness of death still in the unknown future.

Harriet

I've just finished Morning Song by Kimberly Cates. I borrowed it from the Cancer Center. The heroine is spunky and intelligent. The hero is handsome, rich, and a genius, but can't read and is hiding it behind a gruff exterior. There are 2 villains and they are equally evil. I enjoyed this book more than the Kimberly Cates we read earlier. Sue

HARRIETT; I am so pleased to see you are reading something about the Royal Family, For my self, I read the "ROYALS"by Kitty Kelly. What an eye opener. Needless to say, DIANE... Has been a favorite of mine from way back when. I cannot read enough about her, So sad her passing. TTYL Babs

Babs, I'm enjoying my book a lot. I'm interested in your Kitty Kelly book also. Was it written before Diana's death?

Harriet

HARRIETT.. Yes, I beleive it was, Not sure I still have it, if so will send it to you. Babs

Babs, That's so kind of you but I'll definitely look for it in my local library and I'll post here when I've finished reading it. I sure wish that everyone in that royal fairy tale had lived happily ever after.

Harriet

SUE: I have Morning Song on my list of books I have read and particularly enjoyed. I can't quite remember the story from what you said and don't find it on the shelf where I think I would have put it after reading it. Oh well! I read several Cates' books after we discussed Fly Away Home. I liked all of them and Morning Song the best.

Hi BABS and HARRIET. I'm glad you are enjoying the biographies you are reading.

Marjorie, Morning Song started out with Hannah and nephew Pip fleeing Ireland to get away from his abusive father who had killed his mother. They are taken in by Austen, who is a musician and inventor after practically starving. Hannah works for Austen and of course, they fall in love, but the abusive father comes looking for Hannah and Pip and is led to them by Austen crooked cousin. Pretty good story and it is resolved nicely. Sue

Hello: I'm not a constant reader of romance, but I vastly enjoy Georgette Heyer's Regency Romances. They are so funny! Sprig Muslin still has my almost chortling.

MRS. WATSON: That is quite a title "Sprig Muslin." I am smiling too.

I'm in the middle of reading The Royals by Kitty Kelly. The author is much more neutral in her anecdotes about the royals than Lady Colin Campbell who wrote Diana, The Princess Nobody Knows. I guess Kelly just slams everybody.

There certainly does seem to be a lot of dysfunctionality and jockeying about power/position in the Windsor family. They appear to have had rather strange and isolated upbringings and their closest associates appear to be their palace staff instead of their immediate family. The inbred lifestyle produces some unusual personality traits and they live by some unforgiving, rigid rules of behavior.

It's a fun read anyway. It's easy for me to lose myself in the wealth and privilege of their palaces. Their troubles...for instance trying to keep the monarchy afloat in Great Britain...are very far removed from mine.

Harriet

Mrs. Watson: I'm a big Georgette Heyer fan, too. I own about 35 of her books. I think she must have died as I have not seen a book by her in a number of years. Sprig Muslin is one of my favorites.

Yesterday I read Jude Deveraux's Temptation. The heroine, Temperance, is an early feminist in the 1900's. Her mother's new husband is horrified at her charity work with prostitutes and abused wives, so takes over her finances and moves her to his home in Scotland. After she irritates him with meetings in her home and profligate spending on clothing, he tells her that he will let her take over her inheritance from her father and return to her work in New York if she can find a wife for his nephew, the laird of the McCairn clan. She must work as his housekeeper until she finds one. The rest of the book is fairly typical of Deveraux, especially the banter between Temperance and the McCairn--humorous and amusing. If you like Deveraux's early work, I think you would enjoy this one. It's a fast read, too. Sue

I agree with you Sue, Jude Deveraux's Temptation was a very enjoyable read.

HARRIETT: What was your opinion of Princess Margarets displaing Pres. Trumans Photo??????? Babs

I've read two more pretty good books since my last post. Yesterday I read Linda Lael Miller's Springwater Wedding and I enjoyed it. For some reason, I haven't really gotten in to the other books she's written. This one had a mystery as well as romance. I was able to guess the villain about half-way through, but, hey, it was still fun to see the characters figure it out.

Today I read Sandra Brown's Standoff. It, also, was not strictly a romance. It concerned a hostage situation with a television reporter as one of the hostages. The love interest didn't come into play until the last dozen pages--it wasn't absolutely necessary, but made for a happy ending. I enjoyed this book, also. That's one reason I read it all in one day. I had a big print edition from the library and it went fast, even though I had to put it down to fix meals, do laundry, and work in the yard. Sue

Hi Babs. Please refresh my memory. Do you remember what chapter I should look in to find the anecdote about Princess Margaret and Harry Truman? I'm eager to find it as I love swapping opinions about books.

Harriet

Harriett: sorry I do not remember what chapter, Enough to say. He gave her an autograph picture( as you know they aren't to give anything any of high value,) so he gave her the picture, She had it hung in her toilet.! Babs

NOT so nice of Margaret, Babs! She had a reputation of being a lady who was very rank conscious and liked few people.

Harriet

OOH, yuck! We don't even have to read fiction to find rude, inconsiderate snobs, do we?

I finished Catherine Coulter's Riptide today and I don't recommend it. For some reason, her latest books just seem to drag along. She had a pretty good plot line with a stalker, the CIA and FBI, but the pace is so slow and the dialogue just doesn't ring true. I think this is a case of a popular romance author having to produce novel after novel to make money for the publishing company. It's probably in her contract that she is to write x number of novels each year. She has sold millions of copies and has written many books. I liked her earlier ones better.

Just thought I would give you all a "heads up" I am going to list Barbara Delinsky's Three Wishes and Jude Devereaux' The Temptress on the Book Exchange.

Sue, I have the same feeling as you do about Catherine Coulter's more recent books.

Something about her writing style has changed in the last few years. I agree that her dialogue doesn't flow along smoothly anymore and it's hard to lose myself in her plots. Her earliest books had a kind of magic that made them page turners but she seems to have forgotten the formula. There's something self-conscious and not at all spontaneous in the feel of Coulter's writing these days. So sad! I used to enjoy reading her books a lot.

Talking about magical books, I'm now in the middle of the most stunning page turner. I really, really recommend it to everyone. I'm reading On The Street Where You Live by Mary Higgins Clark. It's a fairly new book with a 2001 publication date and it' s SO much fun that it's hard to put it down.

Hi Marjorie and everyone.

Harriet

HARRIET and SUE: Over in the Book Exchange I noticed someone (WINSUM, I think) posted that they have just discovered Catherine Coulter and wants her books if anyone is interested in sending them to her.

I just finished Jude Devereaux' A Knight in Shining Armor. I don't remember who mentioned they liked that one. I liked it better than the other one that had time travel in it. I am not sure now why. I think I liked the first part the best. The part where a man from the past discovered the twentieth century.

Hope everyone has a great weekend.

Marjorie

HI I just finished reading Jennifer Crusie new book FAST WOMEN, really cute and fun to read, a little mystery and lots of romance. I think you might enjoy this one. Shirley T.

It was me who loved A Knight In Shining Armor, Marjorie. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Like you, I liked the part where the hero sees our modern world with fresh eyes. I also enjoyed it when the heroine travels back in time and gives us her view of the medieval world.

Harriet

Me, too, Harriet and Marjorie. Knight is one of my favorite Deveraux Montgomery novels. It's a lot of fun, I think, especially the dialogue. Sue

SUE and HARRIET: One of the things I noticed when I read Knight is the introduction. The author said she had a lot of fun writing the book. I bet that is one reason it was so much fun to read.

SHIRLEY: Did you like Jennifer Crusie's Fast Women better than Crazy for You?

has been added to my list of must read authors. Her Legend is my favorite of hers. So far, that is <g>.

I've been reading some Susan Elizabeth Phillips' books this weekend. I loved her Fancy Pants and Lady Be Good. Her characters are believable and have flaws, which I enjoy and think this is what makes them believable. Her dialogue is humorous and the plot moves right along. Both these novels involve good looking golfers and British women. Characters from Fancy Pants reappear about 12 years later in Lady Be Good. These are fun reads, fairly long, so I had to stay up late one night to finish Fancy Pants. I hate to go to bed with the plot still moving along. I want to know what happens next! Sue

GINNY ANN: I just noticed in the Book Exchange someone offerred Devereaux' Sweet Liar. I just finished it today and liked it. A close second to Knight in Shining Armor.

SUE: I have Fancy Pants waiting on the shelf to read. I am glad you liked it. That will move it up in priority for me.

Hi all......how is everyone? I am back from my Scandinavian trip and hope I'm rested up enough that I can read again.

I have a new book by LuAnn Rice....Dream Country. I started it last night but fell asleep before I got very far so can't comment on it yet. I enjoyed Cloud Nine and Follow the Stars Home so hope to enjoy this one as well.

Northern Joan

While at the library I found the magazine Romantic Times It lists and reviews romance and mystery books! Its web page is Romantic Times

Hi NORTHERN JOAN: Glad to see your "shining face." Did you have a good time on your trip?

GINNY ANN: I put your link in my Favorites and will investigate it later.

I wasn't on the computer yesterday and have a lot to check out today. Have a good day everyone.

Hi, Northern Joan. Where in Scandanavia did you travel? Was it an Elderhostel international trip? Did you enjoy it?

Harriet

Hi Marjorie and Harriet.....yes I did enjoy my trip. It was not an elderhostel but a tour with Grand Circle. We had tried to get inot the elderhostel for the Scandinavian Capitals but were too far down on the waiting list. Our trip started in St. Petersburg, Russia....three full days of seeing the spendor of the past and poverty of the present... a real contrast....but thoroughly enjoyed it. Petersburg (as they call it) is a very pretty city in spite of it all. Then on to Helsinki for two days....one of which we took a ferry to Tallinn, Estonia. That was wonderful as well. Then off to Wonderful Copenhagen for three days.....and it was wonderful. A great city. From there we took the ferry to Oslo. Spent two days in Oslo then took the train to Myrdal and transferred to the Flam RR and took the scenic trip down the mountains.....from the glacier to the fjords in Flam. There we boarded a ferry and cruised the fjords to Grudvagen and picked up a bus to Bergen. Spent two day in Bergen and then flew to Stockholm for three days. It was a great trip and now you know more than you ever wanted to know!

Northern Joan

NORTHERN JOAN: Thank you for your description. It certainly sounds like a trip you will remember. I haven't done that kind of travelling in many, many years.

NORTHERN JOAN: I loved hearing about your trip. Other than Canada, I've never been outside of the USA. We haven't taken many trips at all but we really enjoyed the one we recently completed. I really enjoy hearing about traveling and new places. I'm so glad you had fun.

Hi, MARJORIE, SUE and EVERYONE. Recently I read We were The Mullvaneys by Joyce Carol Oates for a local book discussion. It was an Oprah Pick book but I'm sorry to say I didn't like it much.

It was the story of an initial tragedy to a teenaged girl that was exacerbated by the selfish personalities of her parents. I guess I was supposed to get involved in all the problems of the characters in the book, but I got irritated instead. I felt that no one in the family helped that young girl. All the adults went spinning off into their own nervous breakdowns as a result of the problems of the teen age girl and I couldn't sympathize with that.

It takes more stamina than I have to read all about so many tragedies and disasters.

Harriet

Harriet....that is a complaint that I have heard about many of the Oprah Books.....too much tragedy and too many people that don't stand up and do anything about it.

Northern Joan

Harriet, I've not read anything by Joyce Carol Oates for many years, but the things I remember reading in the late 60s and early 70s were usually about dysfunctional people/families. Her work is literary, but dreary, IMHO. Sue

HARRIET: I don't remember if that was the Oprah book I read, but there was one I read that fit the description you gave. I, too, have been getting impatient with books that focus on the problems everyone is having in their lives. It's OK if the story is a short one and the problems eventually get resolved. Otherwise ...

Hi NORTHERN JOAN and SUE.

I had to read a book by Joyce Carol Oates wwwhen I went back to finish my degree. The one we read was not a happy book, I have another around someplace, but I probably won't read it because I need happy stuff to distract me from my own disfunctional ways! lol

I am reading one of the best books I have read in a long time.Thanks be to my daughter.

It is romance, mystery and I can hardly put it down.

In the preface it says,

This book is dedicated with love and understanding to those millions of American women who cannot read it or any other book, women whose childhood circumstances have deprived them of the adult pleaseure, and the dignity of being able to read. And it is dedicated to the special, caring people who've given their time and efforts to the "Literacy. Pass It On." program.

That has stuck with me for days I did not ever think about reading giving us dignity, but I really think it is true and how blessed are we for being able to do something that many people do not take forgranted.

The book is

Judith McNaught - PERFECT

I just inhaled two books by Sandra Brown Riley in the Morning

In a Class By Itself .
Both were reprints that I was lucky enough to find at the library.

Jude Deveraux's High Tideis also a fun fast read. It was also a lucky find at the library. Thanks to the book exchange I have a nice stack of Deveraux's books waaiting to be enjoyed!

The weather has gone from cool and rainy to hot and humid, so it is sit in a comfortable chair and enjoy a good book season!

Judy thanks for the info on Judith McNaught's book.

JUDY: I have the McNaught book you mentioned. I just haven't started to read it yet.

GINNY ANN: I enjoyed High Tide. We discussed the book not too long ago and the discussion is in the Books & Literature Archives if you are interested in looking in on it. My list of books shows that I have Sandra Brown's Standoff but I am not sure where it is. I enjoy books I can inhale.

Marjorie

I read McNaught's Perfect a couple of years ago. I liked it but am hard pressed right now to remember what it was about.

Northern Joan

I read Perfect a while back and I remember enjoying it very much. I usually enjoy all McNaught books. I hang on to them because I feel they are "keepers" that I can reread with pleasure again and again. I can't say I remember the plot right now, but that just increases the pleasure of reading it a second (or third) time.

I hunted up my copy and I'm looking at the reviews on the back of my soft cover edition of Perfect right now. One of them says: "The chemistry sizzles..." The second review calls the book..."the perfect escape novel..."

I'm turned on all over again!

Ginny Ann, thanks for recommending the Sandra Brown books. Hi there, everyone! So glad to talk to you all!

Harriet

Me Too!!!!I love to read a book that I can't put down!!

I checked out Judith McNaught's "Remember When", "Night Whispers", "Until You", and "Whitney, My Love" from the Library yesterday. First time reading any of her books. Looking forward to them after reading your posts above.

I have been reading Crime Novels, namely John Sandford, Stuart Woods, and others, and it is my custom to read awhile in bed at night. Recently I have switched to lighter reading and am enjoying the Romance books. Way in the past my friends and my reading lists consisted mostly of "Love Stories", we were in love with "Love". NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!!!

Keep your book recommendations coming, these are a great help. Best regards to all,

Lou

Has anyone read romance novels by Susan Elizabeth Phillips. Her books have alot of humor, easy reading. She hasn't written that much her latest novel is This Heart of Mine. I have read all her books and thoroughly enjoyed each one.

Judy, McNaught's Perfect is almost PERFECT! I really enjoyed it as I especially love reading and am so thankful that I was taught to read and enjoy reading at an early age. I have a lot of empathy for people who are handicapped by their lack of reading skills.

Gaillie, Susan Elizabeth Phillips is one of my new favorites. If you back up a few pages, I think I posted about her books. I went to the used book store today and picked up her Honey Moon. I love romance novels written with humor as hers are.

I just finished Harmony by Steff Ann Holm and really enjoyed it, so I picked up her Hearts and Forget Me Not today, too. Her writing style is also humorous. Another author who injects humor in her romances is Jude Deveraux, and oh, also Jayne Ann Krentz/Amanda Quick/Jayne Ann Castle (all pseudonyms for the same author, but different genre romances). Sue

I just went back and skimmed a lot of the postings in this discussion with a pad and pencil in my hand. I came out of it with the titles of about a dozen books that I haven't read before, all recommended as being fun to read. I can't WAIT to go to the library!

I'm particularly eager to try, among others, books by Susan Elizabeth Phillips, Carolyn Davidson, Georgette Heyer and Sandra Brown. Thank you all for your suggestions. I do enjoy this forum!

Harriet

Good Morning Everyone

recieved this in a e-mail from Amazon and it sound good, another Debbie McComber bookThursdays at Eight" is the story of four friends, each at a turning point in her life. Meeting in a journal-writing class, the four women form a fast bond despite the vast differences in their ages, careers, and life choices. To maintain their newly found friendship, they form a breakfast club, promising to meet every Thursday morning at eight. As they deal with the changes fate throws their way, the Thursday mornings at the Mocha Moments Cafe take on even greater importance in their lives as a time for emotional sustenance, unconditional acceptance, and the true kindness offered by friends and confidants.

JUDY: That sounds like a good book by McComber. Thanks for letting us all know.

GALLIE and SUE: Have either of you read Susan Elizabeth Philips' Fancy Pants? I have that one but haven't started to read it yet.

HARRIET: I have gotten a lot of good suggestions from this group. I am so glad it is here.

Hi everyone.

Marjorie

Marjorie, I did read Fancy Pants recently and it's a hoot. I loved the humor and the romance. It inspired me to look for more books by Susan Elizabeth Phillips. She's not written many, maybe 7 or 8. So far I've got 4 of them. She writes a good quick amusing read. Sue

SUE: Thanks. I need to read it soon. I think I will enjoy it more than the ones I read that keep me tossing and turning at night because I am trying to "make things come out right" in the story. Some books are too big for me to read in one day.

HI marjorie, I haven't posted for awhile but I have still been reading a lot. I just finished Nora Roberts, Daring to Dream which is not new but I haven't read it before, she had 3 of them Holding the Dream and Finding the Dream. I really enjoyed it and have ordered the other two, They were published in 1996 and I can't believe I missed them at the time but better late than never.I really enjoy her trilogys . Shirley T.

Marjory I did read Fancy Pants. I hope Ms. Phillips has another book in the works. She is one of my favorite authors. I use to look forward to Danielle Steele's novels, however, she is writing them so fast they all seem to run together. Her earlier books were excellent. I also enjoy Belva Plain, I just finished Looking back, it's about three college friends. They were called the three musketeers, until one of them reveals a shocking secret. I just retired today (yeah) so I will have more time to do the things I love.

..are fun. I usually wait untill I have all three books before starting them. That way I can read them one right after another - like one big novel. What is great is seeing how life has moved on for the characters in the earlier books!

GAILIE: Enjoy your retirement. I retired 4 years ago and like it very much.

GINNY ANN: I like to have an entire trilogy before I start also.

SHIRLEY T: I remember enjoying the Dream trilogy by Nora Roberts. I read it a few years ago.

I finally found where I stashed my copy of Judith McNaught's Perfect. I have read it and did enjoy it. I think I will put it back on the shelf to be read again soon.

Marjorie

Gailie.....best wishes on your retirement. I have been retired for five years now and don't know how I ever found time to go to work! Enjoy yourself!

Northern Joan

Congratulations, Gailie! I retired in l998 and was astounded at how beautiful the weather and the days were when I actually had a chance to get outside for a bit.

Working is an indoor activity. Retirement is not! ENJOY!

Harriet

Nora Roberts has a new trilogy coming out. The first book is released, I ordered it from my book club. Sorry I can't remember the title. I will probably wait to read it until I get all three.

GAILIE: What is the name of your book club? Please let us know the title of the book when you get it. I suppose I could go look it up on Barnes & Noble but I am lazy.

I am reading her Maggy's Child and loving it. She is a new author for me.

SUE and MRS. WATSON: I am reading Sprig Muslin. I think maybe I should read it aloud. When I read it aloud to PURPLE SAGE it was funny. When I was just reading it, I was having trouble "translating" the old fashioned dialog in my head so that I could follow the story. The copy I found was published in 1972. The book was written in 1956. I don't remember reading many novels then. I was newly married and had an infant. Is this the book you are remembering?

Marjory I joined the doubleday large print book club. When you join you get five books for .99, you have to purchase 4 books over the next two years. I also joined the doubleday book club and got 5 books from them for .99 with the same agreement to buy 4 books within 2 years. I think it's a good deal, the value of the books were over $115. You can join on line www.doubleday.com or www.doubleday large print

GAIL: Thanks for the information. I will check it out.

I am still having to "translate" the language in Sprig Muslin but I am nearing the middle of the book and am finally seeing a plot develop and having characters to root for and boo.

Marjorie, I think when you read any of Georgette Heyer's novels, you need to read them aloud at least in your head. She writes the longest sentences I've ever seen in a novel. In one of her books I counted 200 words in just one sentence. That is fairly typical for her. I went through a period in the 60s and 70s when I read her books from the library after a friend introduced them to me. I started collecting them in paperback and have most of her titles. I prefer her romances which are mostly Regency to her more modern mysteries, but I liked those, too. I hope you enjoy Sprig Muslin. Have you noticed how chaste the byplay is between the heroine and hero? Heyer's romances lead to marriage with maybe one kiss reported. There is usually a meeting of the minds between the main characters, sort of soul mates. Sue

SUE: Chaste is a good word to describe Sprig Muslin. I also realized it is a melodrama. I can almost hear the piano of the old silent movies in my head as I read the story.

"You must pay the rent" he demanded.
"I can't pay the rent!" she sobbed.
"I'll pay the rent" said the hero.

Slapstick comedy maybe? All those mishaps piling up one after the other.

SUE: The longest sentences I found in Sprig Muslin last night had approximately 70 words. I never thought about the run-on sentences until you mentioned them.

Is this the discussion that sometime back, you were discussing Anne Rivers Siddons? Her NORA,NORA will be out in paperback Aug 1. In a discussion with the author, she said te following characters were stuck in her head and she might go back and write more about them. They are Maggie Delooch from Heartbreak Hotel, Maude from Colony, and ? from Up Island. My favorite is Colony.

O'SHARNY: Thanks for the information about Nora, Nora. How come the change of logon? Haven't you been in this discussion before? You used to sign your posts with your first name. Have you decided to stop doing that?

If people want to have an in-depth discussion of a particular book, please say so. It may be possible to arrange that as well as this general discussion.

I will surely get the nw Anne Rivers Siddon book on the first of August, She is one of my very favorite authors. Somebody remind me because five minutes ago is hard, first of August probably not.

I'm reading my first Susan Elizabeth Phillips book and I just love it. Nobody's Baby But Mine is smooth flowing, funny and delightful with just the right combination of romance and plot for my taste. I definitely agree with whoever recommended it. Thanks for mentioning it here, and I'm going to look for more Phillips books in the future.

Harriet

I just returned my latest Luanne Rice book.....it was very good also. The title escapes me right now.....for some reason I just can't remember this latest title.

Picked up a book by Sandra Brown as many of you have recommended her books. Also picked up a new one by Jude Devereux.

Northern Joan

Good morning JUDY, HARRIET, and NORTHERN JOAN.

I just finished reading Fancy Pants. It took me a little while to get into the story and then I found that I forgot who some of the characters were. Once I got involved, I didn't want to put it down.

I just picked up The Bride of Spring by Catherine Archer. I don't remember reading anything of hers before. I am enjoying this medievil tale very much. There is some intrigue and deception there but it is gentle -- if I make any sense.

Good day all.

Marjorie

Hi Marjorie. Took me awhile to come up with a name that is truly me. That's the Irish in me coming out.Shirley (when I remember to sign my name - I'm also known as Lee).

I wonder how many others use my strategy. I keep a 4 x 6 index card by my computer and when I check out the book sites and hear a good recommendation from one of you, I write the Book Title and Author down and this is my reading list that I take to the Library. For instance, today I checked out 5 books by Jude Deveraux, an Author that I was introduced to thru this site. Also picked up "Nora, NOra, by Anne Rivers Siddons. THIS IS GREAT HELP. Just wanted to say thanks to all of you.

Lou

LOUWEAV: I don't have index cards. However, I do have scrap paper and jot down all the recommendations just as you do. I tend to buy the books from eBay or half.com. I probably "should" go to the library more often. It is not too far from my house. I end up with a stack of books to read and can pull out one that suits my mood of the day when I am ready to start a new book. Then I sell them on eBay or Half.com or put them on the Book Exchange. I don't keep them all.

Hi everyone. I am new to Seniornet and this round table and I would like to add my two cents too.

You might try reading a book titled "Coast Road" by Barbara Delinsky. It is a very good story and she writes well. Another of my favorite authors is Iris Johansen who wrote "The Ugly Duckling" and "Long after Midnight." They are both romance novels but with mystery, excitement, and adventure. Jane Feathers is also a good author. She wrote "Widows Kiss and "Least Likely Bride."

I try to keep a list of all the books I have read, some I know I have failed to list. There is another author I would like to mention but I will do it later because I would like to give you the title of the books she wrote. I will post again.

Rita

Welcome RITA. Delighted to have you join us. I like Barbara Delinsky and have read "Coast Road" but don't remember the book very well. Since you are new, I wonder if you have found the Book Exchange. I like it a lot. For the price of postage you can get a book. There is quite a variety to choose from. I will be watching to see what other authors you like. I haven't read any of Iris Johansen's books yet. I just finished reading Jane Feather's "The Hostage Bride." I enjoyed it.

for the weekend. I'm currently reading Lady Be Good by Phillips. Fun!

Hello to all the newer (to me, at least) people that have been posting: Ginny Ann, Gail, Lee, Lou and Rita. Glad to meet you. A special hello to all of the more familiar posters. I so enjoy "talking" to you all.

Harriet

If anyone is interested, I just put a variety of paperbacks on the Book Exchange. Some Harlequin and Fancy Pants and a couple of Jayne Ann Krentz.

I really lucked out today at a garage sale across the street. She had lots of romance novels (mostly Silhouette). They were in 3 boxes. I asked how much for a box and she said $3 for a box or $5 for all of them. I took all of them and got well over 100 books for $5! I went into the books I had read and took out at least 20 for her to read. The books look practically brand new too. Now I have books for the car and the treadmill for a looong time to come.

So far I found 3 duplicates. If anyone would like me to send them some Silhouette paperbacks for the postage, just send me an email.

I kept my Devereaux, Delinsky, Garwood, etc. I thought I might want to reread some of them.

Have a great weekend everyone.

Marjorie

Coast Road was the first book I have ever read by Barbaly Delinsky. It is about a divorced woman with two daughers, one teenager and one younger. The mother has an automobile accident and ends up in a coma. The exhusband comes back into their life to take care of his kids and his exwife also moving into their home. It is a good family story, has a lot of good dialogue which I like in a book. It was a very enjoyable read. I did not want it to end. I feel that way about a lot of the books I read.

Rita

Coast Road really sounds good. I like Barbara Delinsky and have read a lot of her books. In fact, after I read Kilroy was Here, I will start her Shades of Grace.

Marjorie, what a wonderful bargain you got. The joy of going thru all those books must have put you in seventh heaven.

O'SHARNY: I have Shades of Grace waiting for me. I had a lot of fun just looking to see what I got. So far I have only looked at about half of the books. The rest got left in the garage. Tonight when I wanted a small one to take with me in the car I had quite a time choosing.

RITA: Thanks for the story of Coast Road. I think I remember the book now. It is a good one.

I just stopped in here to say hello! I am in the Book Exchange all the time and have gotten so many books and have offered many too. I love mysterys but when I have had enough of the "who dunnits", I go to Sandra Brown, Barbara Delinsky, NORA ROBERTS (my fav) I have read so many that I should probably start writing them down because If find myself ordering something and find I read it. Would have to get a huge book to keep track, been reading since highschool and now I am a Senior Netter. Marjorie and I have exchanged quite a few times and she prompted me to stop in here. Soooo, I will certainly be back to see what is new. Nice posting to you. Happy Reading!

Welcome TEAKUP. I'm glad you found this discussion. There are so many books and there is just not enough time to read all I want to read. Some of us have been keeping list of the books we have read. I am one of them. I keep my list on the computer. That way it can grow as large as it needs to grow.

Thanks for the welcome Marjorie. I have subscribed to this site now. I have asked Karen on the Book Exchange about the thing she was talking about that she got at Borders Book Store. But I am a little confused about what she is saying. I am not sure what she is talking about "Detecting Men and Detecting Women". So will wait for her answer. Happy Reading Everyone! Oh, I just received The Triumph of Katie Byrne by Barb Taylor Bradford from Literary Guild. After myself, my 3 friends (very quick readers) are finished I will offer it up on the Book Exchange. If you would like to put first dibs in I will write a note to get it to you first. Just let me know. I don't feel bad about making these arrangements ahead of time because I again (repeat), you snooze, you lose!! Ta Ta

I don't know how many of you have tried the game "Rubbish". We have changed it and now we are guessing Characters in American Fiction from 1700-1940. Each name starts with the last letter of the previous name guessed. We change categories every week or so. Please join us at Rubbish for this fun game.

Hi Everyone! My husband and I returned from our vacation in Canada last night. We lucked out with very good weather. I enjoyed sitting at the shore reading romance novels. I finished Night Fall by Anne Stuart. My friend and hostess is reading it now. I also read The Villa by Nora Roberts. I left it at the cabin for for my friend and her daughter to read. I am reading one of the 53 books I purchased while on vacation. At the library book sale I bought 41 series books for a dollar! You can imagine how happy I was at finding that deal! Bait and Switch by JoAnn Ross is the first of the books I am reading from the library sale.

Hi everyone. I just finished Jude Devereaux' "Twin" books -- Twin of Ice and Twin of Fire. They were a little different than books in a series. Both books cover the same period of time. Many of the events in the book involve both twins and the story is from their viewpoint. There are also things that each twin does alone. Fascinating.

I enjoyed Deveraux's Twins, too, Marjorie.

I just finished Sue Grafton's N is for Noose. It is a mystery, of course, in her alphabet series. If you like her work, you'll enjoy this one, too.

This morning I'm rereading an Amanda Quick favorite, Scandal. The heroine weds an earl early in the book. His motive is seeking revenge against her gambling father who was instrumental in his own father's loss of wealth and subsequent suicide. Her motive in the marriage is that they "have a metaphysical meeting of the minds". She thinks she was "ruined" five years ago and had been corresponding with the hero before they met about romantic poetry. She is also very adept at finances and through her investments has kept her wastrel father and brothers solvent. If you enjoy spunky, intelligent heroines, I think you'll enjoy this book. Sue

Hi Romance Reader posters, I am new to this discussion group and thought I'd introduce myself. I started out in the chatterbox here at Senior Net, and am basically a newbie here, in comparison to many posters at Senior Net. My beginnings to enjoying romance books goes back to Jane Austin, from her to Georgette Heyer(my all time favorite), and from her to other regency romances and historicals mostly. I have read some of Amanda Quick's books, and do enjoy her heroines. Well, this is just a brief introduction to me. I need to spend some time reading back posts and familiarize myself with you all and what has been discussed, but from the little I have read, sounds good to me. I too love "scores," when you get a bunch of good books cheap. I recently got some of Georgette Heyer's republished books for 10 cents a piece! Can you believe that? I was so glad too, because some of mine are literally in pieces! LOL I too have so many books to read, yet keep getting more when the price is right! LOL Looking forward to getting to know all of you! Thanks.

Welcome, ALWAYNA. You might want to check out the Book Exchange if you are looking for a bargain. You can get any of the books you see listed in the heading for just the price of postage.

Have a great 4th everyone!

Hi, Alwayna! I'm a big Georgette Heyer fan, too. I have about 36 of her books in paperback. I've been reading her since the early 70s. I think she is no longer living--and certainly not writing new ones. I think I've commented on her Regencies before. Just search the outline to see. Sue

I just finished Gerrity's Bride and The Tender Stranger by Carolyn Davidson. I liked the second book much more than the first. I'm about to start Lord John by Georgette Heyer.

Harriet

I started reading Heyer's My Lord John. It has a forward written by the author's husband indicating that this book contained the final research of what Heyer planned as a historical trilogy. Apparently Heyer died before she could complete all of her intended research and writing. Two thirds of the book is actually written by Heyer and the final third has been reconstructed from her notes. The book is a compilation of what was originally intended to be three books.

Since the publication date for My Lord John is 1975, that would give us a pretty good idea of when she died. Her husband writes that although she wrote multiple Regency romances, her true passion was the historical era in which My Lord John is set. According to her husband, when the need for money arose she would interrupt her time-consuming research of the medieval Lancastrian era and write a profitable Regency Romance... and then, finances restored,... would continue her meticulous research on the Lancaster family.

Unfortunately she died before completing her total project. I shall read My Lord John with interest.

Harriet

HARRIET: Thanks for that information about My Lord John that is fascinating. I have read two of Caroline Davidson and I liked Maggie's Beau better than The Midwife. I have two others of hers but neither of the ones you mentioned. Are you interested in trading the two you read for the two I read? So many books to read!

There's a real good GH website that I used to visit. I am sure you could find it with a search. I like any information about Georgette. I've recently gotten more books for my "to be read" piles. However, I also found a super plant sale from a nursery going out of busines, and I went crazy...I bought every plant they had with "love" somewhere in the title (in their common names), and many other's just because I never heard of them, and they sounded interesting. *s* I have 43 new plants to get in the ground lol...Oh well, "To Garden is to grow the future."

Alwayna, it sounds like you need to visit Purple Sage's Flower Garden Discussion. You can find it in the RoundTable Index. Sage is Marjorie's housemate and she is quite an expert on flower gardening.

Harriet: I enjoyed your piece about Heyer's writing habits and Lord John. Keep us posted on the book. I have only read one of her historical novels, can't remember the title now, and it was pretty slow moving. Sue

ALWAYNA: You can click here for the Flower Garden discussion that SUE mentioned. There are 14 other disussions in the Gardening folder that you will find on the Round Table main page. Another way to get to gardening is to click on the Index at the top of the page and you can see the folders and all discussions in each folder.

I just got Dance Upon the Air by Nora Roberts. It is the first of three. Haven't started it yet, might wait for the other two. I like to read all the trilogy's at one time.

Gosh, Marjorie! I got my two Davidson books from the library. Otherwise that would be such a terrific idea.

An interesting side note, Marjorie: when I read your suggestion, all of a sudden it brought the whole Book Exchange concept into focus for me. I don't think I really thought about it properly before. I'll have to visit that Book Exchange and see what it's all about. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Hi Sue! I'll let you know what I think of My Lord John. I hope it turns out to be an interesting read. Many years ago I read a very lush historical romance called Katherine. I don't really remember the author...it might have been Anya Seton, but I'm not sure. Anyway that book was set in the same historical era as My Lord John and I really liked it. Remembering how much I enjoyed Katherine makes me hopeful of enjoying this Heyer book as well.

I wonder if Katherine is still in print. I'd sure love to read it again. Maybe I can look it up in Barnes & Noble.

Harriet

GAILIE: I like reading a trilogy all together also. I just finished Nora Roberts' Megan's Mate. I don't have my copies of the Calhoun trilogy any more. I wanted to go back and reread them.

HARRIET: I have a lot of books that are like the Carolyn Davidson ones and I have put them on www.half.com or www.ebay.com to sell and they don't sell. I have put them on the Book Exchange and no one asks for them because most of the authors are unfamiliar. Only the best ones are on the Book Exchange (they are the ones marked out of print). I need to make room for what I have because I am sure that I am not going to have time to reread most of them.

Hope everyone has a great weekend.

Marjorie

I just finished reading Judith McNaught's Something Wonderful. I enjoyed it a lot. My emotions always get caught up in her books.

I like Something Wonderful, too, Marjorie. McNaught's heroes and heroines may be rich but they certainly are human and likable. She does know how to tell a tale.

I'm reading a long mystery right now. It's Elizabeth George's In Pursuit of the Proper Sinner. There are so many possibles that I haven't quite figured out who is the villain. I'm going to finish it tonight. Sue

I'll add how much I enjoyed Something Wonderful also. McNaught's historical romances ARE really 'something wonderful'.

I'm trying hard to finish My Lord John by Heyer, but I'm finding it rough going. I'm only half way through and it's too scholarly for my taste. Her characters keep using frequent words and phrases from Chaucerian English that were authentic to the time period. Even with a glossary at the back of the book for translatation, the language problem is distracting to me.

I've always been a history fan and, I even know a very bare outline of the English history of that era. But the depth of Heyers's involvement sends me scurrying to her family tree outlines of the members of all the major noble families of the era. Whew!

I've kept on going so far because, from her voluminous research, Heyer produces fascinating bits of personal gossip about venerable historical figures and their intrigues that I never knew before, BUT I'm finding it a lot of work and I doubt I can stay the course.

Harriet

Harriet, I'm not surprised at your analysis of Lord John. As I mentioned, I haven't read it, but did read one other Heyer historical and it was not fun, very lengthy and lots of details I considered unnecessary. It just didn't hold my interest. Sue

Hi all. I just finished Jude Deveraux's Summerhouse. Have any of you read it? What did you think of it? I thought it was a bit strange. I don't go too much for fantasy type stuff and some of this was a form of fantasy.

I took out a Sue Grafton book now....at least I know what to expect there.

Northern Joan

Northern Joan: Is Summerhouse a new Deveraux romance? I'm not familiar with that title. Sue

Hi HARRIET, SUE, and NORTHERN JOAN and all others who are here.

I was browsing for information about Leanna Wilson. I read a Silhouette book of hers yesterday and was surprised that I enjoyed the story and that the man and woman didn't do more than kiss, even by the very end of the book.

In the process of that search I came across an interesting website:

Author Pseudonyms

I knew that Jayne Anne Krentz also writes as Jayne Castle and Amanda Quick. This database shows that she has used the names Jayne Taylor, Amanda Glass, Jayne Bentley, and Stephanie James as well.

Kimberly Cates is a pseudonym for Kim Ostrum Bush. Other pseudonyms are Kim Cates and Kimberleigh Caitlin.

I enjoyed browsing this website for different authors I have enjoyed. Now to find out what types of books are written under the other names.

Would anyone like this link to be in the heading?

Marjorie

Yes, Summerhouse is a new book....at least in our library. I was the first one to check it out. I hope someone else reads it and tells me what you thought about it.

Northern Joan

Your newly discovered site sounds like fun to explore, Marjorie. Thank you, I'd love to see it in the heading.

Harriet

Marjorie very interesting site. I didn't realize so many authors wrote under so many different names.

Hi NORTHERN JOAN, HARRIET, and GAILLIE.

I have put the link for the pseudonym database in the header. It won't get lost that way.

by Barbara Delinsky was a very good read. It was not a fast read, but it was a pleasant one.

Right now I am reading a fun fast read. It is Surrender the Shadow by Sandra Chastain. She is a new author for me, but I plan on looking for any others she may have written.

GINNY ANN: I was unable to find the Sandra Chastain book on Barnes & Noble or on half.com. I see that the Delinsky book is a new one. I have written both down on my list of "books to get."

RomaanticTimes has it listed as **** 1/2 stars. They are affliated with Barnes and Nobel.

Ginny Ann that is a great site Thanks

I adding the link GINNY ANN provided for Romantic Times to the heading.

Yesterday I read Susan Elizabeth Phillips' Nobody's Baby But Mine. It was a hoot and although I'd read it before I'm glad I went back and reread it. I had recently read her Heaven,Texas and Dream a Little Dream not realizing that some of the same likable and funny characters were in all three books. Sue

I really enjoyed Nobody's Baby But Mine too.

I'm currently reading Jude Devereaux's Temptation. It has a publication date of 2000 and I got it from the Pay section of my library, so it may possibly be her latest book. It's delightful and I think it is definitely one of Devereaux's better creations.

It's humorous, very easy to read, and pairs an spunky sufferagette heroine and a darkly handsome Scottish hero in a fast moving story.

Harriet

Right now I am reading Stitches In Time by Barbara Michaels. It is a mystery and I think romance, but I still haven't decided who is the best man for the herione. Has anyone else read it?

GINNY ANN: I read it recently. Did I send it to you? The story was different from the ones I read most of the time.

I spent a few minutes looking up pseudonyms again this morning. Barbara Delinsky has two pseudonyms (Billie Douglass and Bonnie Drake). Emily Chase is the pseudonym for Julie Garwood. When I checked Barnes & Noble those authors were out-of-print. I imagine they are available somewhere. I even had the name of Bonnie Drake on my list of books read.

Yes you sent it to me and the check will be in the mail very soon! I was chatting about it with a friend. She loves Barbara Michaels. She also has another names-- Elizabeth Peters and Barbara Mertz.

HI I just finished reading (Leap of Faith) by Danielle Steele and it was ok, not her usual fare, a very quick read and it you are her fans you will enjoy it, I have been trying to keep up on the new novels by my favorites and there sure are a lot of books out right now. so many books so little time. Shirley T.

Hi SHIRLEY.

Right now I am reading Nora Roberts' Night Tales. I am enjoying it. 4 previously published books have been put together in one volume. Then I also have Night Shield which is a new one. I enjoy series. In this series the previous characters are only peripheral to the stories.

I just finished My Lady Mischief by Valerie King. I liked it much more than I expected and it was a fast read. It's a Zebra Regency Romance.

Harriet

I just finished Sacred Sins by Nora Roberts, a great book full of suspense. I also enjoy Susan Elizabeth Phillips, I have read all of her published books. I was looking under the the sict that was posted of pseudonyms and was happy to notice that Phillips has written under two other names as well. I will check Barnes & Nobles to see what is available. I also read Leap of Faith by Steele it was ok.

Gailie, what are Susan Elizabeth Phillips pseudonyms? She is my favorite right now and I am trying to read everything she has written. Her plots are so interesting and I love the way she makes me laugh. Sue

Sue Susan Elizabeth's Phillips psuedonyms are Justine Cole and Clair Kiehl, however, when I looked these names up on the Barnes & Noble site nothing appeared. I will check out the library next time I am there. Let me know if you have any luck. I have enjoyed reading her books, maybe she will have a new novel out soon. I hope so. I have read everything she has written.

Gailie, I'll bet those names were used when she first got started and are probably Silhouette romances. I don't think Barnes and Noble would stock those, especially ones that are out of print.

Marjorie, weren't you the one who read Ciji Ware's Cottage by the Sea? I'm reading her Light on the Veranda today. Its setting is Natchez, Mississippi, where I have visited. It has some time travel in it. The heroine and hero have both been visited by specters from the 1790s, but they haven't gotten around to discussing it yet as they are just getting together. Did she have something like that in Cottage? Sue

The books arrived at a perfect moment. I had just finished a book and I was looking for the next read. lol My choice? Remembering Jake by Cheryl Biggs . It is fun already and I have only read 30 pages.

The book exchange is a special feature of the SeniorNet.

goto Romantic Times for a list of Susan Elizabeth Phillip's books.

SUE: Yes, I am the one who read Cottage by the Sea. There was no time travel in that book. I do not remember any time travel in that story. I don't still have the book but remember the story as one where the woman wants to find a place to "get away from it all" and finds a cottage by the sea. Of course, there is a romance involved when she gets there.

GINNY ANN: I am glad you received the books I sent.

Sue thanks for the info. I went to Romantic times and discovered that Susan Elizabeth Phillips wrote three additional books which are out of print. She is re-writing Risen Glory under the title of Just Imagine which will be released in Sept. If anyone wants more info she has her own web site WWW.Susan Elizabeth Phillips.com. I found it to be very interesting.

Thanks, Gailie. I'll try the http://www.SusanElizabethPhillips.com website when I finish my subscriptions tonight. Sue

I am so busy shifting between mystery and romance I can't remember where to post and if I did hehe

I have started a Belva Plain book titled After The Fire and it reads like it is just going to be great.

Belva Plain and Anne Rovers Siddons are 2 of my very favorite. Marjorie do you think they belong in the romance folder??

JUDY: I would put Belva Plain and Anne Rivers Siddons here in the Romance folder. I don't know of a general folder that would fit them better.

JUDY: Maybe you would want Books That Lite My Fire but I think that would only be after you have read the books.

I like Belva Plain and Anne Rivers Siddon, too. They do usually have elements of romance in them, but I think they're more often classified as popular fiction. That doesn't mean we can't discuss them here. Sue

SUE: I must have had a senior moment. I couldn't think of the word "popular fiction." Oh well.

I am reading Sandra Brown's Where There's Smoke and really enjoying it a lot. I got it from the Book Exchange but wasn't sure that I really wanted to read it. I had read another of her books and wasn't sure how I felt about her. This one is just great or else I am in the mood. Whatever. At least I am enjoying it. I hate it when I pick up a book and keep reading and reading and reading sure that in the next two pages it will become interesting.

Marjorie, I like Sandra Brown's most recent books. However, she has republished some of her earlier works which were strictly formula romances: Girl has problem, meets boy, boy solves problem, meanwhile they have sex in numerous encounters. Her newer works have mysteries and plots which are almost non-existent in her first Silhouette type novels. I like the Girl/Woman to be smart and not need the Boy/Man to solve the problem, although I like for him to help as long as he's a sensitive guy who appreciates her. Sue

SUE: Probably that is what happened that surprised me. I must have read an earlier work first. Where There's Smoke has lots and lots of problems and lots of twists and turns before the end. I had figured out a small piece of it but definitely not all of it before I finally finished it yesterday. This morning Nana (my cat) has decided to sit on my mouse! Usually she sits on the other side of the keyboard.

Hi readers:

I have an author to suggest. It is Judith Michaels. She writes with her husband. Her books are all well written and researched.

The first book written by her is called "Sleeping Beauty." It is about a young female lawyer who returns to the town where she was born and raised after a long absence to attend the funeral of her beloved grandfather. The reason for her absence was that she was being molested by her Uncle. It tells about her struggles and the attempts by her family to reunite with her.

The other book is called "Deceptions." This one is about a set of twins who decide to switch places. It is also well written and it also has a lot of dialogue which I like in a book. There is also a second book which is a continuation of Deceptions which I am not sure of the title at this time. They are both excellent reads. I never wanted them to end.

I am now reading "Back When We Were Grownups." I have never read Ann Tyler but from the few pages I have read I am sure I will enjoy reading it. Bye readers.

APPLEPIE: Welcome and thanks for your suggestion.

I've read "Deceptions" and agree that it was excellent. Just finished "Coming Home" by Rosamunde Pilcher. All 977 pages in paperback. Another one to highly recommend. Just starting "MacGregor Grooms" by Nora Roberts. Not really my interest but I have it and had recently read "MacGregor Brides. Should be a quick read.

O'SHARNEY: The Nora Roberts' series are definitely quick reads, especially the older ones -- the MacGregors and the Stanislawskis. Some days I don't feel like reading anything that I have to mull over and pick up a quick read.

Marjorie. I agree with you about sometimes having the need for a quick read. What I have learned is that the novels published by Harlequin or Sillouette are usually fast reads. Other books by the same authors may be longer reads. Usually both are good reads!

Hi readers. All the books I read or at least most of them, I pick up at the library. And they are always hard cover because the pages open up completely, and they book can rest easily on the arm of a chair or your lap or whatever. But mostly I read hard cover books because of the print used.

I avoid soft cover books. To read them you have to hold them in your hands, and the print in some of them is just too small and dark and close together for me. For me it's too hard on the eyes. Does anyone else feel that way about them.

I have listed some Romance novels over at the book exchange.

Apple Pie, what a clever idea. Sometimes we get into a rut and don't think past it. I rarely read a hard cover because I eat while I read and am afraid I will spill food on the page.

Must say that I did not finish the first part of "--grooms". Just not to my liking. Nothing to the story but sex. Is that what you base a marraige on?

I love to read Nora Roberts, however, I did not enjoy the MacGregors, or the Brides and Grooms, not to my liking. I have just finished Sacred Sins and loved it.

I'm reading a good Sharon McCone mystery, A Walk Through the Fire, by Marcia Muller. It's set in Hawaii and Sharon and her Beau, Hy, are having a few problems as well as having trouble with the mystery.

Yesterday I finished another mystery, Under Cover of Darkness, by James Grippando. This is the first one I've read by him. It involves a serial killer and a cult and keeps your interest.

I haven't given up on Romance novels, I've just read all that I have and am not ready to reread anything right now. Sometimes I'm in the mood to do nothing but reread old favorites and other times I want something new. Sue

Applepie I don't read hard cover books because I read in bed and they are too heavy and hard to handle for me. I have lots of them and when I get old and have to sit in a chair all the time they will be there waiting for me hehe

I finished Belva Plain After The Fire and it was great.

I just finished Nora Roberts' The Reef. It had more evil in it than I like so I had to read it during the day only. If I read a book like that at bedtime, I don't sleep well at all.

the only Nora Robert's book that I put down before it was completed. It didn't feel like her normal style.

GINNY ANN: I know I have had The Reef for a long time. I picked it up about 3 times and read a few pages and put it back and took out something else. This time I decided to read it. I agree it is not what I expected. Especially after just finishing the Night series.

Have you read any books by Kat Martin? I've borrowed 2 of them now from the Cancer Center bookshelf. She writes Regency Romances. They were both pretty good, easily readable and held my interest to the end. First I read Nothing But Velvet and now I'm reading Wicked Promise which has a young woman who is trying to escape the clutches of an evil Lordly neighbor. Her guardian has previously been sent to America because of killing this neighbor's brother, also evil. He was an indentured servant for 7 years. He has a wife who only wanted his money and hasn't lived with him for 9 years. Of course the heroine and guardian are in love--there is to be another crime--I'm guessing the evil neighbor murders the wife and tries to frame the guardian, but as it is a romance, all will be well in the end. Sue

SUE: I never heard of Kat Martin before. I will keep an eye out for her books.

A lot of great romances have recently been listed on the Book Exchange, including several by Belva Plain, LaVyrle Spencer, and Jayne Ann Krentz, among others.

It's been a long time since I've posted here but I'm glad to see an active exchange of titles. I hope one of you will have an answer for me. I'm looking for Judith McNaught's newest "Water's Edge". Has anyone seen it in the major book stores? It had a publishing date of last year then I read that was postponed, then again, until this month but the only thing I can find is a listing for an audio version on the B & N site. Thanks for any help.Marj

Great to see your post M(arj). I haven't seen the book you requested. Let us know if you find it and if you enjoy it.

NORTHERN JOAN: You mentioned the Jude Devereaux' novel Summerhouse a while back. PURPLE SAGE just finished reading it and she used the same word you did -- strange. We don't like the same kinds of novels anyway. I will start it tomorrow or the next day. I will let you know what I think when I have read it.

I have started Best Kept Secrets by Sandra Brown. It is a suspencful story. Brown is usually a good read, and this one seems to follow that trend.

I'm reading another Pamela Morsi novel, Here Comes the Bride. Morsi writes fairly chaste stories with occasional sizzling love scenes when the plot calls for it. Her characters are honest and caring, the kind of people you'd like to know. She also injects humor into her story and the heroines (and other female characters) are strong women, not insipid wimps. In this one, Gussie, who owns the local ice plant, offers a partnership to her manager in return for his help in making the man she "thinks" she wants to marry jealous. She has been "stepping out" with this man for 3 years and in the first few pages, she asks him his intentions and he admits he has none. He is a widower who has no desire to remarry. (Who would want someone like that as a matrimonial prospect? But Gussie is 30 years old and has never even been kissed!) Can you see where this is going? This is about the 4th Morsie I've gotten at the used book store and I have really enjoyed reading each one. Sue

SUE: The name Pamela Morsi sounds familiar but she is not on my list of books that I have read. Maybe I read something by her before I started the list. I will search her out.

I have reached the middle of Summerhouse by Jude Devereaux. The three heroines in the book are not the usual strong women, at least not so far. At this point all three women have done what other people wanted them to do. There is time travel in this novel as in a couple of others of hers. I am just at the point before the time travel. I want to know about these women even though they are different than her usual characters. I am rooting for them anyway.

Never fear, Marjorie, I'm sure Deveraux will have them develop independence and spunk quickly!

I haven't read a Johanna Lindsey in a long time, but when I was unable to get the Susan Elizabeth Phillips' novels I haven't read at the used book store, I bought 2 Lindseys instead. Today I've been reading The Joining which is set in medieval times. It has a spunky heroine who has never wanted to marry since childhood because she perceived correctly that men of her day called all the shots in marriage. However, she was betrothed at birth and of course, an incident in childhood, turned both her and her betrothed totally against the other. Lindsey also throws in some plotting by King John, Richard the Lionhearted's evil brother, and we have a pretty good story.

I started the book in the car on the way to Bob's appointment with the cardiologist, continued reading through an 1 1/2 hour wait to see the doctor (Yuck!), and on the way home. I'm almost finished and will start another Lindsey, The Heir, before I go to bed tonight. Sue

SUE: You are right about the Devereaux' characters. Before the end of the story they have turned their lives around. However, if I had to sum up the book in one word or a short sentence, I would say what NORTHERN JOAN (and SAGE) did -- Strange. I liked High Tide, the other Montgomery stories, and Temptation much better.

I just finished Sandra Brown's Best Kept Secrets. It was a very good read!
I have placed it and some other books over at the Book Exchange!

I'm reading Plain Jane by Fern Michaels. She's a new author for me.

Talk about your spunky heroines! Michaels has written a goodie with a romance between two psychiatrists. Our heroine, Jane, who was once a plain, overweight girl with an emotionally abusive mother, is finally reaching her full potential both romantically and in her professional career. She's involved with a hunk who is also a psychiatrist, and the interplay between the two "shrinks" is funny and charming.

There's mystery, romance, and even the teeniest bit of fantasy in the story. I'm enjoying it and will look for other books by Fern Michaels in the future.

Harriet

writes a very good story. The people seem real because she rounds them out with flaws. So that way they are just like us <g>

HARRIET: Good to see your post.

I read the Vegas trilogy by Fern Michaels. I had a hard time with it because it took place over so many years and there were so many subplots. Maybe I need to try a different book of hers before I ignore her. I have Vegas Sunrise by Fern Michaels on the Book Exchange right now if anyone wants it.

I just reread The Arrangement by Joan Wolf. This is a regency romance with a mystery in it. I've read several by this author and have never been disappointed with her novels. Sue

Good morning. Just to let anyone know who read my post of a few weeks ago I did find Judith McNaught's newest book at, of all places, the library! They hadn't put it into circulation yet so I'm on the waiting list.I have all her books--I'd recommend "Paradise and Perfect" which was just rereleased in one volume. She's a winner. Marj

Hi M(arj). I agree about McNaught's books Paradise and Perfect. Nice to know they have been published together. It will be easier for anyone who hasn't read them. I have noticed other authors doing the same thing -- republishing books in different combinations. I guess it is more profitable that way. Sometimes I imagine people buy things they have already read in a new package.

I have been reading books by Carolyn Davidson lately. I am enjoying her books.

Last night I took out Barbara Delinsky's Having Faith and found myself arguing with the characters right off the bat. They are both lawyers and old friends and find they will be on opposite sides of a divorce case. They decide to go out to dinner and I told them "don't do it." One thing led to another and you know what happened. Still only the 2nd chapter. Then I looked at the copywrite date and the book was published in 1990. Maybe that is why I am impatient with it. I certainly enjoyed Lake News a lot. There is another Delinsky on my shelf waiting to be read and it sounds more like a thriller.

Marjorie

I'm really glad to hear about McNaught;s Water's Edge. I'm a big fan of her books and I've been looking for it too. I'm going to check with my library and try to get on their list.

I'm reading Esther by Gini Andrews. It' s a fictional rendering about the bibical Queen Esther who is chosen by King Xerxes of Persia and saves the Jews. I've always been a sucker for lavish bibical movie epics, and this is a lavish written epic, so of course I'm enjoying it. Esther is fairy-tale beautiful and charismatic and the book moves along easily.

I've been reading about the harems, the eunuchs, the palace intrigues and I'm having fun. I'd love to see this done as a movie so I could enjoy the pomp and the costumes. I've never run into Gini Andrews before. Is she a familiar name to anyone?

Harriet

HARRIET: I haven't heard of Gini Andrews before.

I have been reading one romance after the other. Do you think I'm addicted? lol

The Bounty Hunter by vicki Lewis Thompson It was a 4* read.

Protective Custody by Debra Webb It was a 4 1/2* read

Once Upon a Crime by Dawn Stewardson It was a 4* read.

Right now I am reading

Unlikely Hero by Sandy Steen I am about 3/4 through it and rate it a 3 1/2* read.
Must go for now! the girls (my two black labs) need to go outside. It will be a quick trip because it is 103 here.

GINNY ANN: I read that way too. One book right after another. I hadn't thought to give the books number ratings. That is a good idea. I will have to think about that. What do you do with the books after you have read them? The ones that are 4 and over?

I just started the * system, but have always ranked my books when recording them in my data base. It used to be the words Very Very good, Very good, good, fair, poor.

I know that:"Romance books take us away to a land with happy endings, love and friendship."GinnyAnn This is my quote on the top of my romance page over at Bravenet.com

*****Excellent; **** Very Good; ***Good; **Fair

Marjorie....is that Carolyn Davidson or Carolyn Davis? I have read Carolyn Davis and liked her books very much: Too Deep for Tears and two others whose titles escape me.

I just read Nora Roberts Irish Thoroughbred and enjoyed it. Am reading Irish Rose now. They are in the same book.

I agree about Perfect and Paradise.....I think they are her best books.

Northern Joan

NORTHERN JOAN: The author I am referring to is Carolyn Davidson. I have read her Loving Kathering, Maggie's Beau, and The Midwife. In my database I either put * or "ng" or nothing after the "Y" I use when I have read the book. The first two books had *. I don't know if I rate the books consistently. I looked in the pseudonym database and didn't find either Carolyn Davidson or Carolyn Davis.

Yesterday I finished the book Back in Kansas by Debra Salonen. She is a new author to me and, also, not in the pseudonym database. One day I returned the card that was in a Harlequin Superromance I was reading. This is one of the 4 free books I received. I enjoyed the book a lot. I do think I prefer reading used books because the edges of the new books are sharp and I worry that I will get a paper cut. Such a terrible thing -- reading a new book.

Marjorie

tee hee. I wouldn't know about paper cuts from new books, Marjorie. I usually read used ones! Sue

...books are magic carpets to take us away to the land of imagination. I love the feel of a new book, a new tablet of paper or new magazine. However, used or preread books and magazines are a joy to my sense of needing to save money. Libary books are usually first read by someone else, but sometimes I get the treat of being the first to pursue its pages. It is a win/win situation for me. I don't worry about paper cuts. (A way to prevent them is keep your hands moisturized with hand loion. A dry hand is more likely to get a paper cut.)

What lovely analogies, GinnyAnn! Please place your order for an extra large magic carpet, because there may be many of us in this discussion who are eager to climb aboard with you. I'll have a seat, please! You sure struck a responsive chord with me!

Hi all. I'm about to start Danielle Steel's Leap of Faith. I think it might be her newest. I'll let you know what I think when I've finished it.

Harriet

Harriet....please do report on Steele's book. I have about given up on reading her books as they are all the same anymore.

Northern Joan

Will do, Joan!

You probably have a good point because, after the umpty-ump million words she's written, it must be hard for Steel to find a new plot twist. But for me, part of her charm lies in her ability to smoothly and stylistically weave characters out of nothing and come out of it with a book about something.

Sometimes I think she must be the Seinfeld of the literary world, turning a few events and a few people into involved novels. It takes a kind of genius to extend a character study or two into a long book. Using that technique, I suppose she'll NEVER run out of things to write.

I'll let you know what I think of this book after I've read it. It's good talking to you, Joan. It's fun to hear opinions.

Harriet

Danielle Steel DOES have a plot in Leap of Faith. The plot reads like an amalgamate of the two fairy tales of Cinderella and Beauty and the Beast set in contemporary times.

A lovely innocent heroine tragically loses her family as a result of an accident during her childhood in France. She is forced to live with her mean spirited and unaffectionate American great-aunt. At twenty-one she comes into money and returns to her childhood home in France. There she meets and marries a handsome, charismatic Count. Is he as charming as he seems? Or is he a beast?

The prose flows along easily, as it does in most Danielle Steel books. Steel offers moments of insight about human nature, as she usually does. Her heroine is, as always, beautiful, loving and lovable...and of course, ultimately wealthy. I enjoy Steel's formula, although I've found there are those who don't.

It's a goody for Danielle Steel fans. For those who are not...well, different strokes for different folks adds variety to this world.

Hi to everyone.

Harriet

Did the heroine have green eyes? So many of them do.

I just finished Barbara Delinskys' "Together Alone". Quite a different story and probably some of it has happened in other books, but I was really taken with it. The husband was the worst louse I've encountered in a long time. Would love to tell you the reason, but someone might put it on their list of books to read and that would spoil it.

Gee, I don't remember, O'Sharny. Our heroine, Marie-Ange, has gorgeous, shining blond hair, so I guess her eyes are either blue or green.

Together Alone sounds interesting. Is it a recent book?

Harriet

I believe it was 1992. I've started noting when a book was written so I can keep up with the stuff that is mentioned. Lets see if I can think of one. Smoking outside for instance.

That's an interesting thing to consider when reading a book.

I asked because I wanted to know whether to look for the Delinsky book in the regular section of the Library or the best seller Pay section. I think I want to read it.

Harriet

Good for you. If you can't find it, let me know and I will send you the one I have. It's a paperback. We could consider it one for the book exchange and you would only pay the postage. I give the books away anyway to places such as Goodwill. I get them at our library resale store for a quarter so there is no expense there.

How nice of you, O'Sharny. Thanks!

I have to go to the Library tomorrow to return Leap of Faith which is a Pay section book. Then I'll know whether Together Alone is available. I'll let you know one way or the other tomorrow evening.

Harriet

ok. I probably won't be here for a few days tho. I only come on the internet 2 or 3 times a week. Will look for your message. I'm off now. Goodnight.

by Jude Deveraux is a great book. Just about finished with it. The main character is a computer expert, so I had to remember what computers were like around the copyright date. Yes it is fun to think about how 'contemporary' a book really is. lol

O'SHARNY: If HARRIET gets the Delinsky book at the library, would you send it to me instead? Have you tried putting your books on the Book Exchange before taking them to Goodwill? I don't remember seeing you name on the lists.

I read Daniele Steel's Leap of Faith it wasn't one of her best novels. About every fifth orf sixth book of hers is really good. I did enjoy reading Lone Eagle it was quite good. I think she writes them too fast, I wonder if someone is writing books for her and she is publishing them under her name. Her books don't seem as good as the ones she wrote years ago.

Hi readers. Yesterday Sunday, 8/12/01 Lifetime TV broadcast a TV movie adapted from two books of a series, the first book titled Deceptions, and the second book titled Deceit written by Judith Michaels starring Stefanie Powers. The book is about a set of twins who switch places in each others lives. The TV movie is no way near comparable to the two books which are so well-written. Stefanie Powers portrayal of the twins did not fit my perception of the character of the twins. It was on for 4 hours. And besides, they changed the ending and a few other facts for TV. Oh, how I appreciate reading.

Rita

reading the book is always better! And there are no commercials!

I have a lot of books on the Book Exchange list from January 2001 through June 2001. Since I don't seem to get requests from the old lists, I decided to provide a link to a separate list of them and if in one week they have not been spoken for find some other home for them. They are all paperbacks except as noted. I have classed them as Bestselling Romance Authors, Harlequin Superromance, Other Romances, and Other Fiction.

Click here for list

Since the majority of the books are romances, I decided to post this link here as well as in the Book Exchange. If you want details about the books, check the link in the heading to the bookstore or go to the Book Exchange and in the list for Jan 2001-June 2001 click on the name of the book.

APPLE PIE: Good to see you posting here. I frequently find that the way a book is presented is not at all like what I imagined when I read the book.

Hi GAILIE and GINNY ANN.

Marjorie

O'Sharny, I found Together Alone at the Library this evening. It was right on the cart where recently returned books are kept until shelving. That's my favorite place to look for frequently borrowed books that other people have enjoyed reading. I'm looking forward to reading it too.

I see that Marjorie would be interested in your copy of the book. Marjorie, I'm glad things worked out nicely for all of us on Together Alone.

Harriet

Finally catching up on everything since returning from vacation. I will be adding to the book exchange, hopefully I can get it done tomorrow.

We stopped at the Salvation Army store yesterday and I found about a half dozen books new to me. I really enjoyed the one I finished first, A Charmed Place by Antoinette Stockenberg. It has a romance, a difficult teenager, a divorced mom, an ex-husband, and a pretty good hero as well as a couple of murders. I'll be looking for more books by this author.

I'm almost finished with another of my finds, The Duke and I by Julia Quinn. This is a light historical novel and is well written with an admirable heroine. This author is new to me, too, and I will try to find more of her titles, also. Sue

Harriet, I'm so glad you found the book at the library. Will be anxious to hear what you think of it. Yes, I will send it on to Marjorie instead and will wait to hear her thoughts also.

I do look in at the book exchange once in awhile just to see what is going on. I also check out books wanted and have sent a few books on to people who have requested books I have access to. I don't get to the post office that often so I simply put the books in the box for Goodwill. Come to think of it, I do have one I could list over there. Hmmmmm.

Applepie, I have read those books but didn't know there was a movie. I just don't watch movies any more. Really a good story.

I'm about 1/3 of the way into Delinsky's Together Alone and I can hardly make myself do anything but read it. I'm finding it hard to put this book down, even to play with my computer. Usually I really enjoy taking a break by writing a few comments to you all, but this book has been absorbing me just about from page one.

Thanks for writing about it here, O'Sharny. Back to the book.

Harriet

So glad you are enjoying the book. Yes, it really is a good read and I didn't want to put it down either.

Marjorie, I got to the post office yesterday and it is on its way. I sent you an email.

Passed a resale shop on my walk today so went in to browse and staring me in the face on the book shelves was Nora Nora. My favorite author - Anne Rivers Siddons. The paperback just came out the first of this month and here it is in a resale shop. I bought it. This one will go to a daughter who got me started reading the author.

I finished Together Alone by Barbara Delinsky and recommend it very strongly to anyone who enjoys an absorbing book. The characters are beautifully drawn and easy to become involved with. The inside picture of the marriages and relationships in the book were fascinating.

And yes, Doug is a real louse!

I went to the library a couple of times in the past ten days, usually to return Pay section best sellers. Each time I went I was allured by some books that I saw and wanted to read.

After borrowing a few more books every time I went near my library, I now find myself up to my eyeballs in so many terrific books that my chances of finishing them all before their return due dates are zilch! What a luxurious problem. What to read first?

I'm going to have to keep track of several different due dates and be organized enough to renew those library books at the appropriate times. I laid them out on a table and every time I pass by I get pleasure thinking about how much enjoyable reading I have ahead of me.

By the way I was very disappointed by Jude Devereaux's Heart of A Warrior. I couldn't get into it at all and never finished it. The hero was a warrior from a futuristic planet. By the time Devereaux got done describing his planet and culture, she really lost me.

Harriet

This morning while in the ER waiting room with my MIL, I started an older Barbara Delinsky, Moment to Moment, which was published in 1984. I read to about the middle and will finish it tonight so this should clue you in that I am enjoying the book. I think Delinsky has a way of making romantic relationships seem real, warts and all. Sue

BTW, I'm trying to remember if I've read Together Alone. Is that the one where the heroine has a disabled daughter by one brother who deserted her and is loved by the other brother? Did we read that as one of our Romance discussion selections? You can see that I have lots of SeniorMoments!

SUE: We did not read Together Alone for a discussion. I don't know about the story line you mentioned because I haven't read the book yet.

HARRIET: I am always afraid that I will forget library due dates. I guess it is that and that I am lazy that has me getting my books from the Book Exchange, ebay and half.com. There are lots of books waiting for me to read but I have all the time I want to read them.

There is one book I don't have all the time I want for and that is Ice Bound by Dr. Jeri Nielsen. I was asked to be co-DL for the discussion that is to start on September 1. I don't read much non-fiction but am enjoying this book. I had seen her story on TV also. I hope being DL for nonfiction isn't too much different than what I did in the romance books we discussed.

Have a good weekend everyone (half over).

Marjorie

I am about half way through Krentz's Deep Waters. It is my first by her under Krentz. I have read her books under Amanda Quick. This is different than those. This is an enjoyable read.

GINNY ANN: We have had a couple of discussions of books by Jayne Ann Krentz. She is great. I'm happy you are enjoying her book.

Marjorie, I pay so many late fines for library books that I'm up for an award. Public Spirited Financial Maintainer of the Local Public Library ...that's me. (Tee-hee.) The heck of it is, in this computerized age, my library now allows people to renew their books over the phone. Yet I STILL manage to forget the due date of my books and wind up paying some late fees. I guess those dime & penny fines are really a small penalty for all the pleasures the library provides.

Congratulations on your new DL role with Ice Bound. I know you'll do a great job, Marjorie. Ice Bound is one of the lovely books I picked up on my last library trip and I certainly hope to look in on your discussion. It looks like that discussion is shaping up to be a fun event.

Sue, I've been thinking about you and your husband often and wish you both the best. I send you both affectionate thoughts.

Could the plot that you were describing be Follow The Stars Home? If so, I know it wasn't written by Delinsky, but I can't recall who the author actually was. Take care of yourself, Sue.

Happy reading to all.

Harriet

The plot she mentions was the plot of a book we read in this discussion and was not the Follow the Stars Home plot. I too thought it was a Delinsky book but not the one she mentions. It was the one where there was the disabled daughter and the father left them. The father's brother was their pediatrician and he loved the woman too. Can't remember the title though.

Northern Joan

I just found my copy of Follow the Stars Home by Luanne Rice. Here are some synopsis excerpts from the back of my soft-cover edition.

...Abandoned by her husband, Tim,...Diane Robbins has spent eleven years caring for her exceptional child's every need almost alone. It was Tim's brother, Alan, the town pediatrician, who stood by Diane and her daughter...Throughout years of...caring, Alan hid his love for his brother's wife...

There's more to the excerpt, but it's not as pertinent as the quoted paragraph.

I went away for a few weeks last spring so, if there was a discussion on Follow the Stars Home, I wasn't part of it. Still that sure sounds to me like the plot both Sue and Joan mentioned, no?

Harriet

HARRIET: The plot described certainly sounds like Follow the Stars Home by Luanne Rice. I remember that book and we did NOT discuss it here in Books & Literature in a separate discussion. I think that we voted for it and the vote was taken just before I decided to open this discussion instead of individual books discussions each month. I believe I read the book because it got so many votes.

I just did a search on "Follow The Stars Home" and near the beginning of May in this discussion there were some posts about this book and about a TV show that was made from the story.

I guess everyone is right.

Follow the Stars Home was NOT written by Barbara Delinsky and WAS discussed in SeniorNet's Books & Literature right here in the Romance Books discussion.

I thought Follow The Stars Home was a great book. Ireally enjoyed it.

I liked it, too, but I thought the heroine was impossibly good. She was never frustrated with caring for her disabled daughter. To me, that didn't seem real. Despite your love for your children, able or disabled, things happen which are upsetting. That trait of her character just didn't ring true for me. I'm just not that noble. Sue

Now you've really piqued my interest, Sue. Would you believe that I haven't read Follow the Stars Home yet?

I took it on vacation with me last spring, but never had the time to read any of the books I took along. I did read that synopsis on the back cover quite a few times though. I guess that's how come I remembered it. My knowledge of the plot of Follow the Stars Home is very, very short and unencumbered by details. The book is still waiting its turn to be read.

I'll definitely have to try to fit it into my reading in the near future.

Harriet

Oh boy, then it was Rice's book. My memory is worse than I thought. It was a very good book and yes we did discuss it. I thought that we hadn't discussed any of Rice's books. Shows you how astute I am!

N. Joan

I was so enthusiastic about Barbara Delinsky that I tried her Sweet Ember after I finished Together Alone. This time I was disappointed. Sweet Ember was only so-so.

It was one of Delinsky's earlier books and she has plainly grown a lot as a writer, both in plot and character development. Yet, seems to me she 's such a "natural" as an author that she didn't write any truly unreadable books, even in her earliest tries. I wouldn't give this book a total thumbs down, but I wouldn't remember it with as much pleasure as her Together Alone either.

It's a fast, pleasant read and a nice way to spend an evening. Oh, and my library hard-cover edition had larger print . I LOVED that and I wish more books used larger print!

Harriet

HARRIET: I have Delinsky's Shades of Grace and Together Alone still to read. Of the other books of her I have read, I noted that I liked Lake News the best. I don't believe it was just that we discussed that book. I seem to remember feeling good as I read it even though I didn't like the ending and the story was far fetched.

I just finished Sandra Brown's Led Astray which was published in 1985. It was a good story even with a little more explicit sex scenes than I like. I don't remember the story now but I noted that I particularly liked her Where There's Smoke.

Hope everyone has a great weekend.

Marjorie

What a nice group of books to look for. A new-to-me Delinsky and two Sandra Brown titles!

Thanks, Marjorie!

Regards to all.

Harriet

Would you believe $20-$40 for a $3.95 paper back on Half.com? I was looking for more Susan Elizabeth Phillips books to round out my collection recently. There were 2 titles there written under her earlier pseudonyms with several copies in that price range. I couldn't believe my eyes! I'm guessing that her earlier books, like Delinsky's are not as good as the most recent ones. I think these authors try their wings when they get started and grow as they continue.

I just finished an early Nora Roberts, Affaire Royale, and it was good, but not up to her recent standards. It was published as a Silhouette Book. She evidently wrote 48 of these short novels with a little bit of a flower theme. There is a list of them in the front of the book. The previous owner/reader had marked the ones she had read. I found the book at the Salvation Army store recently for a quarter. Sue

I recently looked for an old Anya Seton title that I had read a long time ago at several computer sources. Sue, I was as surprised as you were when you discovered the prices for your Susan Elizabeth Phillips books. The paperback edition of the book I was interested in was in the same rarified price range as your Phillips titles, and the hard cover edition.was even more expensive. Wow!

I guess if a book goes out of print there's a premium price for any remaining copies. But who would have thought that one of these little romances could command such a price twenty years ago?

Is love getting more valuable? (Giggle.)

Harriet

SUE and HARRIET: I have noticed some outrageous prices on half.com myself. I couldn't imagine anyone pricing the books that way because there is no way I would pay those kinds of prices for them.

Took everyone's suggestion and just finished reading Together Alone by Barbara Delinsky. It was hard to put down. I just started The Villa by Nora Roberts another great author. This book seems to be another hit. Love everyone's reviews. I usually run to the library or check out the book exchange when I hear of a particularly good one Gail

GAIL: Another vote for Together Alone. Since I have to start a new book this evening, I think I will make it that one. I will let you all know how I like it.

Woman Most Wanted by Harper Allen. It is an 'Intrigue' book from Harlequin. Mystery--Romance--Fun Characters! Allen is new to me, but I plan on seeing what else she has written.

I am reading another Luanne Rice book, "Summer Light". It is hard to put down. Another good read by her.

Northern Joan

GINNY ANN: I picked up a Harlequin Intrigue to read and am finding it is enjoyable. I don't have it in front of me and I don't remember the name or author at the moment. I will let you all know after I finish it.

Led Astray by Sandra Brown. It was orginally published under the pseudonym Erin St. Claire. It seems I have been hooked on romance reading! lol

Marjorie I had to go pick up Woman Most Wanted to get its title. My memory sees to be fickle these days.

GINNY ANN: You I right I was lazy. The book I am reading is Midnight Remembered by Gayle Wilson. I do like the book a lot and I am still have only read half. I walked in the bedroom to look at the title/author. Walked back in here (the next room), sat down, and said to myself "no, that can't be right" and went back and checked. I was sure of the word Midnight and the author's name. I was correct, but didn't think so. Is that a Senior Moment or what?

for the title. You are a very good host.

Besides the Luanne Rice book I am reading, I have a Jude Deveraux book on tape that I am listening to as I drive. It is Sweet Liar and I am enjoying that book as well.

Northern Joan

In my younger days I loved Romance Books, but during my working years and raising my family I had little time to read. Just in the last couple years I started reading again, and somehow got started reading Suspense Novels, authors such as John Sandford, Robert B. Patterson, David Baldacci, Stuart Woods, etc.

But now, I am back to Romance Novels and loving them. Favorite authors at present are: Sandra Brown, Jude Deveraux, Jayne Ann Krentz, Judith McNaught, Nora Roberts, Linda Howard, Barbara Delinsky, Jennifer Crusie. Thank you everyone because I have learned most of the authors through browsing this discussion group.

Lou

GINNY ANN: I was held in suspense until the last chapter of Midnight Remembered and I just finished it. I enjoyed it very much. I haven't read anything else by Gayle Wilson. I hesitate to get another one only because I have so many books to read. The other day I went on eBay to see if I could find the Texas series by Debbie Macomber. There was an auction for 4 different series and the Texas series was one of them. So today I opened a package with 15 more books. Even though they are small, I better be careful about getting still more. I like the Debbie Macomber Alaska series so I expect I will like these too.

NORTHERN JOAN: I liked Sweet Liar too. There was a time when I listed to tapes when I was driving a lot and also after cataract surgery. Now I drive so little, I read the books instead.

LOUWEAV: Welcome. You like almost the same authors I like. We have discussions in the Archives of books by Jude Deveraux, Jayne Ann Krentz, Judith McNaught, Nora Roberts, Barbara Delinsky, and Jennifer Crusie.

Marjorie

Sandra Brown, published under her pseudonym Erin St. Claire, The Devil's Own. I think I read it some years ago, just found it in a bag of books stored in the barn. It has a couple of minor characters, Cage and Jenny Hendren, who I think were hero/heroine of another Erin St. Claire Mira that I've read. GinnyAnn, are they the characters from Led Astray? Sue

Hi Everyone

I started Barbard Delinsky new book The Vineyard while I was in Vegas. I can't hardly put it down and really hate to see it end. I enjoyed Lake News so much but I think this is better. I really love it. Its about a old lady who owns a vineyard back in the east some where can't remember where.

JUDY: Thanks for that tip. I am ready to get anything that is better than Lake News because I enjoyed that one a lot.

I just started Together Alone (also a book by Delinsky) last night. In the synopsis on the back it had three names to remember. Then I started the book and there were the names of the husband and daughter and ... and ... I thought I would get confused. Lots of times when there are a lot of names, I can't keep them all straight and lose them when I need them. Somehow I think I will remember these. Of course, I only read 3 chapters so we will see.

Marjorie, I know I'm an old stick in the mud, but is this new format going to stay this way? For some reason I always hate to change when I'm used to something. I'm guessing it was done to make it easier to read. What will it do to HTML messages when we select font size? Sue

SUE: I think there is still some tweeking going on. There are lots of posts over in Problems. I think the HTML code for font sizes will work in your posts as it does now. I had to set my preferences to 2 rather than leave the default because the default was too large for me. The other thing that was done is to put many discussions that had no folder into the folder called Conversational Discussions. Some of the discussions that have been moved need to be resubscribed to for that reason.

I also had to resubscribe to some discussions. This new format is much clearer for me!

The characters in Led Astrayare Jenny Fletcher and Cage Hendren. It is set in Texas oil country. I will probably finish it tonight.

I read Suddenly You by Lisa Kleypas and I didn't want it to end.

The hero is a handsome scoundrel with a surprisingly sensual streak of tenderness. The heroine is a authoress with independent ideas and unconventional ways of thinking beneath her prim exterior. Their romance is a lush package all wrapped up in England's 1800's.

Jack, our hero, has no problem loving Amanda...there are lots of great romantic encounters in this book...but he sure has a few problems with committment, arising from his difficult childhood. Our heroine, Amanda, manages to keep both Jack and herself off-balance as their romance progresses.

I really liked this one.

Another book, quite different, is The Deep End of the Ocean by Jacquelyn Michard. The movie adaptation has played on cable TV and is a fairly faithful adaptation of the book, so if anyone has seen that, they have a pretty good idea about the book.

The story follows a family through the crisis of their three year old son being kidnapped to his eventual return nearly ten years later. The boy had been totally integrated into his kidnappers family, and sees his birth family as the interlopers.

The birth mother is a complicated personality with quite a few flaws. I found it hard to be unconditionally sympathetic to her, but it's an interesting book.

Harriet

Thanks for the tip, Marjorie. I'm going to Preferences and reducing my print size, too.

GinnyAnn: The Devil's Own is a sequel of sorts to Led Astray. The same Jenny and Cage play a part in the plot, although the romance is between Linc and Kerry.

Harriet: I've read Deep End of the Ocean and thought it was good, yet sad. I don't remember how I feel about the mother as it's been a while since I read it. Sue

Marjorie: Help! I can't find preferences. I thought I saw it the first time I came to this discussion today, but I went on and checked my next subscription and it disappeared. The only thing I see that is even close is the e-mail webmaster button and I don't think that's the place.

I am going to click on my screen name after I post this and see if it takes me there. Sue

P.S. I just did that and there was no preference list there, either.

a new one to look for by Sandra Brown--The Devil's Own. I did finish Led Astray last night. I started A Whole New Light but think I may have already read it. At the library today, I found The Summerhouse by Jude Deveraux. It looks like the Brown book will be put down and the Deveraux taken up instead. lol I love it, I love it, I love it!

SpringCreekFarm, Now that you mention it I looked down my page and I don't see a preference button for me either. I see a Post My Msssage button here and in the row of buttons below.

More good books to look for. Hi HARRIET, SUE, and GINNY ANN.

SUE: A couple of people mentioned the missing Preferences button. Nothing has settled down yet. I am sure they will get to that as soon as they can. I imagine that fixing one thing goofs up something else. That is very common in programming. I am guess that to keep the pages from having to be scrolled horizontally, the buttons were rearranged and in the process Preferences got lost somehow.

Thanks, Marjorie. I did get to preferences once from the link that was posted to SeniorNet Suggestions, but the way I got there was to go to cancel subscription. I thought 2 looked too small, so I changed it to 3 and that's the same new default size. Now I can't get back into the preferences. I guess I'll just have to wait until everything is finished. Sue

GinnyAnn ... I will be curious to hear how you liked The Summerhouse. I thought it a bit strange but not altogether unlikeable.

Northern Joan

Well, I'll be... Look below the Search button. The Preferences button has appeared.

Whoever is doing the work on this site is really listening to comments and acting quickly to solve things. Nice to see Preferences back.

Preferences is back for me!

I will let you know what I think of The Summerhouse.

Has anyone else started to look at couples or just at people and see then in a romance book setting? Or could I have overdosed on these wonderful books? Guess it isn't all that bad. lol

GINNY ANN: I haven't done that with people I meet but it is an interesting idea. Maybe you could write a romance yourself.

The idea isn't new to me, but somehow I never get around to it.

I am enjoying The Summerhouse

GinnyAnn: Is The Summerhouse you are reading by Jean Stone? I found a 10 cent copy at the library book sale today and am going to take it to the beach with me.

I also checked out a paperback copy of Together Alone by Delinsky. I do think I've read it, but will reread it anyway. I'm really impressed with Delinsky's way of portraying friendships among women. Another author I enjoy who does that Anne Rivers Siddon.

I read a Western-Historical Romance yesterday and thought it was a winner. It was written by Liz Ireland. I have never read anything by her before, but think I'll look for more. The blurb on the inside says she has written one other, not Historical, Man Trap. Sue

Finished the Vineyard and really hated to be done with it. It was a really good book. I am starting Luanne Rice book called Firefly Beach I am hoping it will be as good as Cloud Nine and some of her other books.

book I am reading is by Jude Deveraux. It is a new publication. I read some more after posting before and really like it. In some ways it is like a Pilchner or Binchey book. It is following three women. It has flashbacks. At some point the women are to be given a chance to revisit three weeks of their past. It should be interesting to see what happens then.

Thanks, GinnyAnn. I am a Jude Deveraux fan and will be on the outlook for her Summerhouse. I think she does a good job with scenes in past and future lives. Several of her more recent books have those elements. Sue

beginning and really love The Summerhouse. Sorry I can't offer it for exchange, but it is a library book. I offered four books over at the exchange. Two by Sandra Brown, one by a Patricia Rosemoor, and one by Jane Ann Krentz. I read all four and liked them.

Hi everyone. What a nice group we have here.

I have just read the first of the 6 books in Debbie Macomber's Heart of Texas series. I am enjoying it. I wasn't sure I would because I remember reading one of her earlier ones and not liking it. This one is Lonesome Cowboy and it was a quick, fun read.

I am half way through Nora Robert's The Villa. It's hard to put down. Great read. I like most of her books.

I've started a new to me Barbara Delinsky, Facets. It is different from others I've read. One of the male characters is a real louse who has ruined lots of lives of family and acquaintances. One of the females, a former mistress, is writing a tell all book which will expose him. I think she will be hurt and the dirt will fly off him, but it's really too early too tell.

I just finished a Jill Marie Landis, Last Chance. It has a Western setting and is a romance between a widow and one of her former students who was a rebellious youth and a gunslinger for a time. Unbeknownst to the community, he is undercover as a Pinkerton Agent. I like these Western romances. Sue

I finsihed Together Alone by Barbara Delinsky. Remembering lots of comments were made about this book,I decided to put them together inone page. It worked. I left out the comments about other books.

Together Alone comments

I agree with the comments that Doug is a louse. I was able to keep the characters straight in this book (better than I do with Jayne Ann Krentz). It took me quite a way into the book to figure out the solution to the mystery that runs through it. The clues were there all the time so it wasn't really a surprise. I enjoyed it a lot.

Thanks SUE for the name of another Delinsky book to read. I read "Last Chance" once but I don't remember it very well.

GAILIE: The Villa is a Nora Roberts' book I haven't read. Thanks for the recommmendation.

Marjorie

Marjorie: What a great idea! I just clicked on your link above and read the comments. I started rereading Together Alone after lunch today. I am beginning to remember some of the plot now, but I am sure that I will continue until the end. As I remember it, Doug is a louse and gets what he deserves. BTW, John in Delinsky's Facets is also a louse. I wonder if Delinsky has a lousy former husband? Sue

I finished it last night. It was a great read because it not only entertained me, it got my own imagination going.

Hi Ginny.....I am glad to see you liked Summerhouse. It was not my favorite book by Deveraux. I guess I have a hard time with the fantasy junk. Parts of it were interesting though........so I wouldn't classify it as a total loss.

I am reading a book now by an author I have never heard of let alone read anything by her. Her name is Dorothy Garlock and the book is The Edge of Town. It seems like it will be a decent read. There is a long list of other books by Garlock but I have never heard of her. Have any of you read any of her books? An opinion?

Northern Joan

Northern Joan: I've read almost all of Dorothy Garlock's books. Most of them deal with historical periods in the Middle West and Western United States. I've enjoyed them so much that I have kept most of them. The most recent one I read was about a young couple who were reunited after the husband came home from WWII. I forget the name of the book. I think the wife had thought the husband was KIA or MIA and had started her life without him. It was a good story. Sue

Thanks for the input Sue. Isn't it funny how we can completely overlook an author? I had never noticed any of her books before. Now I will check the library to see what other ones they have.

Northern Joan

Sue, I note that Anne Rivers Siddons is one of your favorite authors and wonder if you read "Nora,Nora"?

Marjorie, I looked at your clickable for Together Alone and really liked it. Thanks for doing that.

N.Joan, Dorothy Garlock is a stranger to me too in that I have not read any of her books. I do see her books at the Book Seller at the library tho.

Nora, Nora is a new one to me, O'Sharny. I haven't run across it yet. I am at the beach and brought along Siddons' HomePlace which I hope to read after the Nora Roberts I'm reading down here. Sue

Finished Avenging Angel by Glenna McReynolds. It was hard to put down it was so good.

So many books so little time. LOL Gail

Glenna McReynolds is an author I am not familar with. Have you read any other of her books GINNY ANN?

Hi O'SHARNEY, SUE, and GAILIE. Thanks for everyone's suggestions.

Marjorie

was new to me also. She writes for Bantam Books. Romantic Times says: Your search for "Glenna McReynolds" resulted in a list of 3 books.

THE CHALICE AND THE BLADE Glenna McReynolds MAINSTREAM ****

DREAM STONE Glenna McReynolds MAINSTREAM **** 1/2

THE PRINCE OF TIME Glenna McReynolds HISTORICAL **** 1/2 G The link to Romantic Times is above.

Sue, Homeplace has five books before I get to it. I line them up on the bookshelf and read whatever is nect in line. Unless something else strikes my fancy before that. I will probably read another Robert Ludlam so that would make six books. Daughter sent me ten of his paperbacks. Would like to know your thoughts on Homeplace. Enjoy the beach.

Title: SULLIVAN'S LAST STAND by Author: Harper Allen
Published: September 2001
Its Rating: ****1/2
Line: Harlequin Intrigue
I really liked the book I just read by her so I am looking forward to this new one.

I am reading Happy Endings by Katherine Stone. I haven't gotten very far into it but it appears to be one I will enjoy a lot. I also read her book Twins some time ago. I don't remember that story very well but on my list of books read I marked that I liked that one. I will have to reread it soon.

I also finished the Texas series by Debbie Macomber and offered it at the Book Exchange. There are six books about the people of Promise, Texas. It was a fun read.

I have listed Happy Endings on the book exchange, if anyone wants it. Gail

GAIL: Whoever gets that book from the Exchange should be very pleased.

I finished Fanta C by Sandra Brown. It's about a young widow with two children who owns a store called Fantasies, selling everything from unmentionables to crystal perfume bottles.

Our heroine has a penchant for daydreams with erotic themes. The author weaves her heroine's daydreams into her real life romance with the hunk next door. In this way she manages to produce a book with a double dose of romance in the plot as the girl interacts with the guy...and daydreams when she's alone.

I liked it.

Harriet

Hi Marjorie and All,

I have been meeting to get over here, but something always gets in the way. Anyway, I want to read Happy Endings by Katherine Stone. I have read Thief of Hearts by K. Stone. It was sooooo good!

The other day someone mentioned Dorothy Garlock. I love her. I have only read one of her many books. It is called After the Parade. I could not put it down. It takes place after WWII.

I could go on, but I better head back to the Ice Bound discussion. I have to read my next chapters. We are having fun over there and learning a lot too.

I have not read Fanta C, but it is on my list. Sandra Brown is always good. Does she have a new one out? I think it is called 'Envy.'

Bye

HATS: Last night I ordered Imagine Love and Rainbows by Katherine Stone from half.com. I was lazy and didn't check Barnes & Noble to see which of her books I wanted. I had liked two of them and just ordered two more. I had better go look for Thief of Hearts too.

HARRIET: You make me want to find Fanta C by Sandra Brown also. Now I had better get over to Ice Bound too.

Hope everyone has a great weekend.

Fanta C by Sandra Brown was my first book by Sandra Brown. Brown seems to add just a bit of 'bad boy' or 'daring woman' to her stories.

GinnyAnn: When we returned from the beach, I found Waiting for Nick in my mailbox. Thanks for sending it. I should be finished with it tomorrow and will mail it to Cindy on Tuesday when we go to Bob's chemo. We usually stop at the P.O. and bank on the way. Should I tell Larry over in Books Wanted and/or Books Exchanged? Sue

SUE: If you tell LARRY in either discussion that you are sending the book to CINDY, it will be counted. He will need to delete if from his list.

Has anyone read Dance Upon the Air by Nora Roberts? Any coments? I am getting ready to start it. It is suppose to be the first of a trilogy. Does anyone know it the other two are out yet? Gail

but I think they may be all in print. I know for sure the second one is out and I thought I saw the third one somewhere. lol

I have Dance Upon the Air but was waiting to get the rest in the series before reading it.

GINNY ANN: Do you know the names of the other two books in the series?

I just finished Happy Endings by Katherine Stone. I really, really enjoyed the book. There are three women in the story and all have things from their childhood to resolve. Of course, there are three men also who love the women. One of the interesting things is how these women's lives are intertwined. As in the title the ending is a happy one.

Marjorie

I think this is from a different series but found it while searching for the other titles. I am still searching for the others to the new trillogy.

Time and Again by Nora Roberts Silhouette / August 2001 From the Publisher They crossed centuries to find a timeless love ...

He was stranded in the present, but time traveler Caleb Hornblower's biggest predicament wasn't returning to the 23rd century ... It was leaving behind beguilingly innocent Liberty Stone, who'd shown him a love more powerful than Time Was.

Cynical Jacob Hornblower had followed his brother, Caleb, into the past, hoping to lure him back. But once captivated by Liberty's spitfire sister, Sunny, he discovered that even for a romance-resistant man of the future, Times Change.

Multi-New York Times bestselling author Nora Roberts enchants readers once again with two unique and intriguing tales about passion so powerful it transcends time itself.

Reflections and Dreams by Nora Roberts #1 New York Times bestselling author Nora Roberts brings you two tantalizing tales of remarkable women who live...and love...on their own terms, featuring characters from Considering Kate, part of her heartwarming Stanislaski saga.

Reflctions A lifetime pursuing her dreams had left Lindsay Dunne little time for romance. But seductive Seth Bannion is about to give the inexperienced beauty a crash course in the art of love.

Dance of Dreams Innocent Ruth Bannion is in awe of her demanding mentor Nickolai Davidov. But when their partnership erupts into passionate desire, it's up to Ruth to teach the guarded Davidov the tender dance of love.

Annotation Reflections and Dreams features the enigmatic Nickolai Davidov, choreographer of Kate Stanislaski of Considering Kate, as well as cross-characters from both titles, together now in one volume.

From the Publisher Reflections and Dreams features the enigmatic Nickolai Davidov, choreographer of Kate Stanislaski of CONSIDERING KATE, as well as cross-characters from both titles, together now in one volume.

Reflctions A lifetime pursuing her dreams had left Lindsay Dunne little time for romance. But seductive Seth Bannion is about to give the inexperienced beauty a crash course in the art of love.

Dance of Dreams Innocent Ruth Bannion is in awe of her demanding mentor Nickolai Davidov. But when their partnership erupts into passionate desire, it's up to Ruth to teach the guarded Davidov the tender dance of love.

I just finished two Nora Roberts' books, Honest Illusions and True Betrayals. These books were not related with characters or plot, but they both had mysteries which had to be resolved. I enjoyed both of these titles. I also finished Waiting for Nick which is one of the Stanislavski series. I had a long wait for it, but it was worth it. Sue

did you see my post? There is a new book from the Stanislavski series. So many books, so little time.

Sue and Gaj,

Help! I know about the Stanislavski Brothers and then, the Stanislavski Sisters, but I did not know about 'Waiting for Nick.' Does it matter which one you pick first?

HATS: I would suggest you read about the Stanislaski Sisters and Brothers before you read Waiting for Nick. I read the books a long time ago (it seems like 2 years ago) and I had each of the stories separately. I don't remember the order but I think at least one of the sisters came first. I know Nick follows those two. GINNY ANN mentioned Reflections and Dreams as a recent book that has some of the same characters as the Stanislaski books.

GINNY ANN (gaj): Thanks for all the information on Nora Roberts' books.

It would be best to read them in order because they are all in each book. The Stanislaski Sisters is one book and Stanislski Brothers is another book. Each book contains two short books. The order is first a sister, then a brother, then a sister and then the last brother. Next comes the book Waiting for Nick. That is followed by Considering Kate. And lastly the book Reflections and Dreams I have read all but Reflections and Dreams . It is fun to watch the family grow in love and numbers.

I thought the two sisters were in one book and the brothers in another. However, like Marjorie, I read those 2 a year or so ago. Then I found Considering Kate and read it, but had to wait until I found Waiting for Nick on SeniorNet's Books Wanted. Actually 2 others had it first. I got it from GinnyAnn and will send it back to the original owner tomorrow. Sue

Hi readers. I have just finished reading "Lake News" by Barbara Delinsky. The book is about a print journalist who for revenge submits an unsubstantiated news story stating a love affair between a soon to be elevated Cardinal in the Catholic Church and a female friend. The story of course was untrue and an apology was issued by the newspaper to the Cardinal. But the female was not given the same consideration. She lost her her reputation, her job and her privacy. And she was hounded by reporters and was the subject for discussion by talk show hosts on TV and radio and treated unfairly.

It was a good read and made made me feel sympathy for Condit. The TV talk show hosts (are they journalists, O'Reilly etc.) have spent air time discussing the tiniest details destroying the man. What power the media have.

Hi Applepie: We read Lake News as a group earlier this year. I thought it was a really good story--and not inconsistent with the way women have been treated over the years. I think you can still find our discussion of this book in the Archives. Marjorie will probably be in here later and will give you a link. It's good to see you here. Come back again soon. Sue

APPLEPIE: As SUE said we discussed Lake News earlier this year. Here is the place to find it in the Archives if you want to read our discussion. Glad to have you join us.

SUE and GINNY Ann: I agree with GAJ about the Stanislaski books. I thought the order was a sister, brother, sister, brother and yet, as SUE, from the titles it would seem that two stories about sisters are in one book and two about brothers in the other. I thought I was probably wrong about the order until you seemed to agree with me. I enjoy books in a series.

Marjorie

The Stanislaski Sisters book has both stories about the sisters and The Stanislaski Brothers book has the two stories about the brothers. Both books were orginally published as four different books. They were combined as two books per each new edition. When I bought one of them (I think it was the Stanislaski Sisters book) Considering Kate was packaged with it. To read them in order you need both the The Stanislaski Sisters book and The Stanislaski Brothers book. That way you can follow the different relationships and see how they develope. What is especially good about it is Waiting For Nick starts the stories of the next generation. Considering Kate continues on with more of the children's lives.

Everyone has helped a lot. I did not know where to start in the Stanislavski series. Now, I know where to start.

I just finished Prince Charming by Julie Garwood. It seems to me that someone mentioned this book before but I wasn't able to find the post. Whoever posted about this, thank you. I enjoyed the book.

I hope everyone is recovering from the results of the attack a week ago. I don't know where you all live. I have been watching the TV reports for long stretches every day. I am on the West Coast and still feel a lot of insecurity as a result of the terrorism. I can't even imagine how I would be feeling if I lived close to the actual sites of destruction or had a loved one there.

Today I celebrate Rosh Hashonna, the Jewish New Year. I wish all of you peace in the New Year.

Marjorie

Many thanks, Marjorie. I wish health and peace to all in the coming year.

Harriet

Hi readers. I enjoy reading romance novels. In the aftermath of last weeks news and being glued to the TV, I really needed an escape. I have a grocery bag full of romance novels, that was given to my by by my sister, by authors I have never heard of and none of the novels will ever win any prizes for great literature. But they afforded me a little time to escape.

God Bless America

Happy Rosh Hashonna to you Marjorie, and any others of that faith. Peace to all.

Please have peace and renewal during Rosh Hashonna, the Jewish New Year. May you have peace in the New Year.

Happy New Year, Marjorie. May this New Year be filled with Peace, Love, and Happiness for you. Love, Sue

I am reading another book by a new (to me) author Kritin Hannah. The title of the book is Summer Island. I am not far enough into it yet to say anything about it. Has anyone read this author?

A friend gave me another book to read today. It is not a romance but I understand it is delightful to read. Title is: Ladies With Options by Cynthia Hardwick. Anyone here read that one?

A happy Rosh Hashonna to you Marjorie. And I echo your thoughts for peace.

Northern Joan

What wonderful greetings everyone. Thank you so much HARRIET, APPLEPIE, O'SHARNY, GINNY ANN, SUE and NORTHERN JOAN.

APPLEPIE: I have been reading "quick" romances myself as an escape.

I was late trying to find a flag so yesterday I got something called a garland that is red, white and blue foil stars on a thin wire. I wrapped that around the trunk of the tree outside my house. I noticed someone in the neighborhood had three balloons outside their house (red, white, and blue). Probably they couldn't get a flag either.

Marjorie

I have recently read three of her books. Two were excellent, but the third had a disappointing ending. Has anyone else read her work? The two good ones are

Shameless

Avenging Angel
The other book is

Dragon's Eden. It romance part was good, but the surrounding story didn't wind up as I expected.

GINNY ANN: I haven't read Glenna McReynolds. However, I have had the experience of reading an author and liking one or two of the books and not others. If I read the one I don't like first, I am unlikely to get more by the same author. If I read one I really like, I usually get a number more by the same author and then find one disappointing. So many authors and so many books and not enough time to read them all.

You can say that again! lol

Marjorie, I hope you have a very happy new year! I now have 'Happy Endings' by K. Stone, but I have not started it yet. It looks good.

Northern Joan, I LOVE Kristin Hannah. She writes with such compassion. I finished 'Angel Falls.' After reading that one, I wanted to read all of her books. I want to read 'Summer Island' too.

Has anyone read 'Tears of the Moon' by Nora Roberts? It's a trilogy. I also read the second one. I can't think of the title, but I have not read the third one, 'Heart of the Sea.' The story takes place in Ireland.

Hats, I've read all three, actually bought them and have kept them for rereading. I think this is one of her best trilogies, I especially like the Irish setting and the fantasy involved. Her Born In Fire, Ice, Shame trilogy, also set in Ireland is a good one, too. Sue

I have the titles mixed up. I think 'Jewels of the Sun' is first. I have a hard time keeping all my titles straight. When I finish one, I try to write it down, but sometimes I can't find my journal. Oh well, so much for organization.

HATS: You have it correct now. The books in order Jewels of the Sun, Tears of the Moon, and Heart of the Sea. The Archives has our discussion of Jewels of the Sun.

SUE: I enjoyed the Born in ... series as well.

Hi GINNY ANN.

Marjorie and Sue, I want to read 'Born In....series too. Right now, I am in the middle of 'Scarlet Feather.' It's really good, lots of family stuff going on. Maeve Binchy is always good.

Marjorie, I will look at the archived posts for 'Jewels of the Sun.' I really enjoyed that book.

This week I went to one of the branches of my library. They have a great collection of romance books. I inhaled Renegade Heart by Gayle Wilson first. It was a fantastic read. Twice Tempted by Harper Allen is another fantistic read. I have just about finished it. During these uncertain times it is good to read books that grab me and keep my interest. And, of course, have a happy ending. lol

GINNY ANN: I agree with you about reading books with a happy ending right now. Today we had a break from the TV news because SAGE's daughter, granddaughter and new great-grandson came to visit. They drove about 5 hours to get here and are staying in a hotel tonight and tomorrow night and going back on Sunday. We are both retired and do things at a realatively slow pace usually. However, from 2-7:30pm they were here. The baby is 3 months old. I am now exhausted. I think I will sleep well tonight. I now I was delighted to turn my attention from the news for most of the day.

Hi HATS. Hope everyone has a great weekend.

Marjorie

It is The Man From Texas by Rebecca York. It is another Harlequin Intrigue book. This book was a fun fast read. Now to figure out what to read next. lol So many books so little time.

It is good to see you had a good day Marjorie!

GINNY ANN: I just added the book you mentioned to my list of books to get. Yesterday the baby, his mother and grandmother came to visit around 10am. They were here until 7:30pm except for a couple of hours in the middle of the afternoon. Around 11:30 SAGE's other daughter, her husband and youngest son (7th grader) stopped by to see the baby (and us). All of us had lunch together and the second group left about 2:30. It was a great time. The baby is on his way home and left early this morning so we are back to normal routine today. We both enjoyed the visits very much. We don't seem to do much travelling lately and I was pleased they came to see us.

Sage had mentioned in another discussion about not being able to concentrate while reading these past days. I've had that problem,too, but have kept reading as a means of controlling my grief.

Yesterday I found a winner. I read The Bride Finder by Susan Carroll. It's about an arranged marriage, but is different than most because the hero is capable of seeing future events. There is mystery and magic involved in the plot. Quite interesting. I think I'd enjoy another of Carroll's books. Sue

Sue, I loved 'The Bride Finder' by Susan Carroll. Soooooooo good!

Hi Hats. Have you read any other of Carroll's books? I think she has written 3 or 4. Sue

The Bride Finder from my library.

I just finished In Her Lover's Eyes by Tina Vasilos. This romantic mystery is set in Canada's British Columbia Provence. Romantic Times rated it a 4* read and I agree with them.

Today I had a tooth pulled so I plan on getting in some reading while it heals.

GINNY ANN: I just finished Protector With A Past by Harper Allen. The story was a good one. However, there was too much evil in the story for me to be comfortable with it. The bad guy wasn't just a criminal but he was one who did "sick" things. You have read a couple of other of her books. Was there evil in them too? Did I just hit upon one I don't like? Maybe.

In my goodies from the library, I got Nora Roberts' new book: Dance Upon the Air. I started reading this morning and will probably stay up far too late tonight to finish it. I don't know how this woman gets her ideas for plots and characters, but I have yet to read a poor novel written by her. I am usually engrossed by the first page and can hardly put the book down. I probably should have waited until the next 2 in this trilogy come out. I'll be antsy to see them now. Sue

Good Morning All,

Sue, after 'The Bride Finder,' there is Night Drifter. I read that one too. Wonderful. There is a new one called Midnight Bride, but I have not read that one yet, but I will because I love the whole series.

I can't wait to read Dance Upon the Air, but I won't read that one until I read the last in the other series, Heart of the Sea.

SUE: Are the other books in the Dance Upon the Air series out yet? I have been waiting to start it until I get them.

Good morning HATS.

I don't think so yet, Marjorie. At the end of Dance Upon the Air there is a short excerpt from the next, Heaven and Earth. It says "soon to be published by Jove". Sue

I have read two of her books and throughly enjoyed them. Both Woman Most Wanted and Twice Tempted were very good mysteries. I don't remember 'evil' in the sense of 'horror' in either book. Horror books are NOT my kind of stories. I will see if I can find Protector With A Past by Harper Allen to see if it reads differently then the two I have already read. I think it is probably a different style than I have found.

Hi Marjorie and all,

Has anyone read the 'Magical Love' series? These are light and fun. I have one called 'The Dream Spinner' by Gail Crease. This is what is on the back of the book,

".....Kate Pedigrew has discovered her calling as a stained glass artist in Montpelier, Vermont. She has spent most of her savings renovating the old church that's become her home but some somehow, she can't resist purchasing a nineteenth-century spinning wheel from a local antique shop. Suddenly Kate's artistry borders on perfection-and, oddly, she seems to grow more beautiful every day....

...Especially to art historian Cole Beresford. He is in Vermont searching for a mysterious artifact, purported to possess magical properties.....

Another one I read in this series is called 'Faerie Tale.' I can't remember the author. I might have the author's name written down.

I read Dance Upon the Air also. Called my book club and the 2nd book is titled Heaven & Earth it is available in hard cover. Love Ms. Robert's books. I use to read a lot of Danielle Steel's novels but I don't like her latest ones as well. Her first ones were quite good but she seems to be in a rut. Listen to me I can't even write a line.

GINNY ANN: I have Twice Tempted and haven't read it yet. I will have to read it and see if it is different than the one I just finished.

SUE: Thanks for the name of Nora Robert's second book in the Dance series.

HATS: Sorry I haven't read the Magical series you referred to.

GAILIE: I can't write either. I still criticize authors sometimes.

Marjorie

Gailie: I agree that Danielle Steel is in a rut. We did read a fairly interesting one here last year about a Japanese-American during World War II. The name escapes me now. I don't even bother to check out her new books when I see them at the library. They are just too much the same. Sue

Right now I am looking to read books with an edge to them. Romances with men that make me wonder about them. I am reading Sandra Brown's Switch but, I haven't settled into with an aah. I will probably finish it as it is a library book.

I am still not well and can't wait until I am.

GinnyAnn: I didn't know you weren't feeling well. Sorry! I hope you feel better soon. Sue

Hi All,

Ginny Ann, I hope you feel better too. D. Steel's last book, 'Leap of Faith' looks and sounds pretty good, but for awhile, I too stopped reading her books. Wasn't she having some very painful problems with her son?

I can't remember, but I think the last book I read by her was 'Ghost,' and 'Granny Dan.' I liked both of these books.

I liked Steel's Leap of Faith too, Hats. I also liked Granny Dan, but I haven't read Ghost.

I have read Steel's book about her son's emotional problems. It's called His Bright Light and it was a sad, wrenching experience. All of her wealth and influence couldn't save her own son's life.

Just finished Lord of Midnight by Jo Beverly. It was a medieval romance with some surprisingly modern emphasis on the personality of the characters. I really enjoyed it.

You guys are keeping me busy tracking down the books you recommend. Feel better Ginny. Hi to Marjorie, Sue and everyone.

Harriet

SUE: Thanks for mentioning that we discussed Danielle Steel. Here is the archived discussion: Silent Spring I really enjoyed this discussion it is about the Japanese internment after Pearl Harbor.

HATS and HARRIET: I have Granny Dan but I haven't read it yet. Thanks for your recommendations.

GINNY ANN: I, too, hope you feel better soon. I don't think I "settle into with an aah" very many books. It is a great description because that does happen sometimes. When it does I don't want to finish the book and I want to know what happens to the characters at the same time.

Marjorie

Hi Marjorie, Harriet and GinnyAnn,

GinnyAnn, I am sorry you are not feeling well. Hope you feel better soon.

Marjorie, I am beginning to look over the archives. There are lots of good romances there.

Harriet, I have heard about 'Lord of Midnight.' Since you enjoyed it, I will try to get it. I have heard Beverly is a good writer. I like Medieval romances too.

I thought of another good D. Steel romance. It is the one called 'Vanished.' I read it a long time ago. Harriet, I am glad you liked 'Leap of Faith.' I have a copy from the library. I am about three chapters into it. It should not take long to read because it is small.

Bye

GINNY ANN Sorry to hear that you are under the weather. Hope you get well soon.

I am still recovering from having a tooth pulled and complications from other chronic problems.

Switch is becoming interesting and is helping me get the rest I need.

HATS: I am glad to know that you find the Archives interesting. I haven't read all the books in the Romance section but I bet that would be a good way to find some other titles -- if I needed to add to my book collection.

GINNY ANN: I am glad Sandra Brown's Switch has finally achieved that ahh for you.

Hi GAILIE.

Marjorie

This afternoon I read a really sweet short book by Belva Plain, The Homecoming. It is not a romance, it's really about family problems, but it is touching. Sue

SUE: I think I remember reading that book and enjoying it.

Marjorie, the archives are helpful. I can look over the list and find books I have missed and want to read.

Sue, I like Belva Plain, but I missed 'Homecoming.' Small and sweet? I will have to write it down.

Hope everyone will have a fun weekend.

I read Belva Plain too, but have not always enjoyed her books since she has taken on every social issue in them. Did read one recently where her issue was arson....can't remember the name of it. That one was a decent read. The one that dealt with spousal abuse, I didn't like. Carousel was OK but again a social issue....child abuse.

I just finished reading Ladies With Options which isn't a romance but was a fun read. About a group of ladies who make some smart investments etc.

Northern Joan

I just finished reading Shades of Grace by Barbara Delinsky. I enjoyed it very much. Grace has beginning symptoms of Altzheimer's Disease. The book describes how she feels having the symptoms and how her daughter and granddaughter feel when their beloved mother/grandmother shows signs of AD. The daughter is the one involved in a romance. An interesting book. There is a mystery involving Grace's childhood and rebellion on the part of the granddaughter as well. I try not to read non-stop so it took me two days to read it. I am going to put it on the Book Exchange.

Marjorie, I want to read that one. It sounds really good. I like Barbara Delinsky. I have read one called 'Three Wishes.' I hope the title is correct. I also want to read 'Coast Road.'

Someone else mentioned medieval romances. Has anyone tried Julie Beard? She's great.

I also have read 'After the Fire' by Belva Plain. It was sad but interesting. I did not read 'Carousel' because it was about child abuse. Child abuse is hard to read about, but I did read 'The Long Road Home by Danielle Steel. It involved child abuse. It took three tries before I finally read it. At one point, she grows up and falls in love with a priest, but I think that part of her life ended sadly too. I don't want to give the story away.

I made a note of Julie Beard's name. I'll try to track down some of her books when I'm at the library next.

So many nice recommendations!

Harriet

I don't remember if it was in the library or here but I remember talking about Cynthis Freeman's Season of the Heart. I went to my book store and got it and put it out of sight. I read it in the last couple of days and it was a really good book. Does anyone remember talking about it?? I am taking senior moments. Think it will help hehe

HATS: JANET D emailed me to get Shades of Grace. If you want it after her, post in the Book Exchange and maybe she will send it to you.

JUDY: I think we may have mentioned Seasons of the Heart once. I know I got it from the Book Exchange and don't have it any more. However, I don't remember where it was discussed or what we said about it either.

Hi HARRIET.

Marjorie

Marjorie, I already spotted copies of 'Shades of Grace' at our used bookstore. I know I can get it before the weekend. Thank You. I bought 'Happy Endings' at the same store for only ninety cents.

HATS: You are getting good prices. In the Book Exchange a single book, paperback, will be $1.33 for the postage; hardback is $1.78 for postage. I am lazy and "buy" everything on the computer although there are secondhand bookstores around.

I have Happy Endings on the book exchange, if anyone would like it. I also have Sleeping Beauty listed by Judith Michael. It's an older book but a good read.

I finished Switch by Sandra Brown. It was a good read. Since I have been 'under the weather' from my tooth extraction when I read it, it could have been my mood, but, I have read better books by her.
Right now I have a stack of books waiting to be read. Now my only problem is choosing the next one! lol
I read Happy Endings a while ago and enjoyed it.

Hi All,

Marjorie, I do that too. I buy lots of books from the computer but mostly from the used bookstore. Gaj, that's my problem. Choosing the next book from a pile is always hard.

HATS: I agree with you and GINNY ANN that chosing a book from a "pile" is difficult. However, I would not be at all happy to have only one unread book in the house. Yuk! My guess is all of us here in Books are like that.

Hi everyone.

Marjorie

I've been waiting for a couple of days for my subscriptions to bring me here, but no one has posted since Marjorie's last on October 3.

I wanted to tell you about 2 goodies I've just read. The first is a modern romance by Georgia Bockoven, Disguised Blessing. It's the story of a divorced mom who learns the man she is engaged to is as big a jerk as her ex-husband when her daughter suffers terrible burns. This story is well written and held my attention to the end. One objection I had was in the editing of the book. The ex-husband was involved with a woman named Michelle and later the jerky boyfriend with a woman named Adrianna. Towards the end of the book, the women's names were switched. I found this off putting and the proof reader and the author should be ashamed!

I also read Teresa Madeiros's A Kiss to Remember which is a Regency period version of Sleeping Beauty. However, the hero is the one awakened with a kiss. Unbeknownst to the heroine, he is the Duke she thinks is vile and evil. This was a fun read. Sue

Hi Sue, I bet 'Disguised Blessing,' is a good book. I want to read that one. I am reading Abandon by Jillian Hunter. The island is named Abandon. What a name! There is a little magic in the novel and a little about King Arthur and Avalon. The heroine is trying to save her island, Abandon.

I would like to read Teresa Medeiros too. I have heard of her. I would like 'A Kiss to Remember.' I like the title.

SUE: I seem to find all sorts of proofing errors in books I have been reading in the last year or so. Mostly it is just the wrong word in a sentence as if an automatic spell checker did the proofing. I would have had the same reaction you did if names were switched in the story. There are some things that only people can do. People who concentrate on what they are doing.

Hi HATS.

I have been finishing a series by Muriel Jensen Father Fever, Father Formula, and Father Found. The story is about three triplets -- beautiful of course -- who meet three friends. One triplet is pregnant and with anmesia and one of the men is the father. Which one is which? The books are Harlequin American Romances. Pleasant to read.

Marjorie

Hi Marjorie, I bet those are good. I like reading about twins and triplets.

HATS: I guess we have similar tastes. I enjoy reading about groups of people. These triplets are identical in their looks but very different in their personality. Each, of course, envies the other two until she finds her own love.

Hi Marjorie, Hats, Sue and everyone.

The Jensen and Madeiros books sound wonderful. I haven't been able to get to the library for about two weeks. I miss my constantly changing supply of romances and I mean to loan quite a few of them tomorrow.

Meanwhile I've been rereading one of my favorite Judith McNaught books, Almost Heaven. For me her books are real keepers and so far I always enjoy my many rereadings of her stuff.

Harriet

I am reading The Bride Finder by Susan Carroll. It was recommended here and I am happy to have gotten a hold of a copy from my local library.
Before it I read Night of No Return by Eileen Witks . It is a Silhouette Intimate Moments book in the A 'Year Of Living Dangerously' series.
I also completed Sandra Browns' Switch Of the three, the Brown book comes in in third place closely behind the Witks book. Bride Finder is the type of romance that got me into romances in the first place. In the September issue of Romantic Times is an article titled "In Search of the Sweeping, Classic Historical Romance." The article by Kathe Robin speaks to the issue of "historicals aren't what they used to be." Pictured with the article is a copy of Angeliue in Barbary by Sergeanne Goldon. I remember the Angelique books with great fondness. I read them all!
Some of the other authors from the earlier time include Kathleen Woodwiss and Rosemary Rodgers. Both of these authors are still writing, but sad to say Sergeanne is not. One of the team died and the other may have since the first ones passing.
What do you think of todays historicals compared to the past ones?

Interesting question, Ginny.

Woodiwiss and Rodgers were the first romance writers that I read extensively and they made me breathless with their outright sensuality. I don't know if they paved the way in the "bodice ripper" genre of romance novels, but they were the first ones that I was aware of who deviated from Barbara Cartland's genteel type of Regency characters.

Later on, as I read more extensively, I found I preferred a little more humanity and a little less machismo in my romance reading. I always thought that nobody ever did a romance novel better than Catherine Coulter in her earliest books. She tended to write about a tender, yet macho hero who interacted with the strong-minded heroine in a seductive and appealing way. I thought Coulter was SO good in her earliest efforts that, in my opinion, her later novels were never able to come up to the same standards. What a pity! Of course it's probably true that what appeals to people in a romance novel can be a very individual matter of taste.

I like today's novels. Nowadays it's possible to find whatever combination of sensuality and reality one finds most entertaining. Of course we all have to go through a lot of books to find just the right mix for our personal preferences. Thank goodness for this romance book discussion and all its helpful hints. And, most of all, thank goodness for all of you because I feel as if this discussion brings romance novels "out of the closet" for me.

I now find I'm not as defensive about telling friends that I read and love romance (gasp!) novels. And I certainly DO love them. Hey, hi to all of you.!

Harriet

on vacation, I chatted with a librarian who said that there was nothing wrong with reading romances. Harriet I also thought that I was reading stuff that some how was beneath my reading level. Now I know differently.

Hey Harriett:

I love today's or present day romances, too. I would be interested in knowing more about your preferred authors. I do most of my reading from books and authors mentioned in these book discussions, and love to get one that I can't put down. List some of your favorite authors for me. Thanks. Lou

Busy place today. Hi HARRIET, GINNY ANN and LOU.

I just finished Father Found, the third book in the series by Muriel Jensen that I mentioned earlier. Like SUE I found a place where the names didn't make any sense. One of the men was remembering where he first met his woman. However, the name that was used for the woman was one of the other twins and it made no sense until I thought of what SUE had said. Very poor proof reading. The event took place in the first book of the series but the couples were well established in the pages right before and right after the error.

Marjorie

Gee, these were some great posts today! I really like to hear what others are reading and your impressions of the books and authors. It often sends me to something new that I've never read.

Harriet, I don't know why, but I never really liked Woodiwiss or Rodgers novels. I read them, but sometimes felt I'd wasted my time. I, also, have been a big Catherine Coulter fan. I bought and kept many of her earlier books, but her latest just seem to written to a formula to keep her publisher happy.

GinnyAnn, I know the feeling about once being embarrassed because I read a lot of romance novels. Bob even bought me one of those bookcovers that hid the paperback cover so I could read in public without fear of discovery. One of my friends who only reads uplifting literature told me that romance novels, particularly Harlequins and Silhouettes, are sub literature. I just ignored her and read on. Actually, I do read fairly widely and have read most of the classics, but I always prefer a good romance with a feisty heroine and a sensitive hero.

Yesterday I reread Teresa Medeiros's A Whisper of Roses. I picked it up at the library along with A Kiss to Remember. I had forgotten that I have a paperback copy somewhere in my many bags of books that I have kept over the years. It's pretty good, but not as good as A Kiss.

Today I started Nicholas Sparks's A Walk to Remember. I will probably finish it this evening. I've read this before, but my literary club is planning to discuss this at our meeting on Tuesday, so I wanted to refresh my memory.

Hi Marjorie, Hats, LouWeav, and all you other readers looking in. Keep a smile on your face and keep on reading and reporting on the goodies! Sue

Hi All,

Sue, do you recommend A Walk to Remember? I have it, but I have not read it yet. I did read Message in a Bottle. I liked that one. I think he has a new one out called A Bend in the Road.

lou, I'll be glad to tell you a few of my personally favorite authors, but I must also explain that Marjorie, and Sue also, are really much more knowledgable than me.

It was Marjorie who thought up this discussion format for exchanging information on romance books. It's HER baby and she keeps far better track of the many romance books she reads than I do. I'm a haphazard reader and, outside of a very few especially favorite authors, many of the titles and writers I come in contact with slide through my memory with frightening ease.

That's why I love this discussion. I use it to learn about recommended books and then I hunt for them in the library. Today I plan a trip to the library and I hope to find and borrow Teresa Madeiros A Kiss To Remember. I also want to backtrack on our computer discussion screens and pick out a few more titles from it before I leave my house.

My own personal favorites? Anything written by Catherine Coulter from the mid-1980's to, I guess, the mid-1990's. Somewhere beyond that Coulter's writing style changed in some subtle way that I don't know how to describe and became less satisfying to me. However she wrote LOTS of books during the decade that I mentioned. This is my personal take, and you might feel differently.

I also love anything by Judith McNaught and I love anything by Amanda Quick. Between these three authoresses there's quite a few books to enjoy, maybe upwards of around 30 books, particularly if you haven't tried them yet.

Marjorie and Sue and some of our other romance readers mentioned they keep track of the books that they've read on their computers, and I believe we have some romance fans in this discussion who even rated the books for pleasurable reading on their computers. They would have much more knowledge of available books than me. I don't keep track of my past reading and have probably reread a lot of books without even being aware of it. Ignorance can be bliss, and I can't even count how many books I must have reread with relish, never knowing that it was not my first reading.

I think the terrific thing about romance books is their escapist nature and the joy of love written up in a thousand different permutations for our fantasy pleasure. Please enjoy as much as I do, Lou!

Hi Marjorie, Sue, Hats, GinnyAnn, and everyone who makes this such a special discussion.

Harriet

Hi Harriett,

Thanks a lot for your answer to my post. I have been doing the same thing as you, writing down books and authors and going to the local ibrary to look for them. I only started reading again couple years ago, never had the time when I worked, then got addicted to the computer and that took up most of my time.

When I started reading again I started with, I guess you would call them "crime novels", authors John Grisham,Jonathan Kellerman,Richard North Patterson, Janet Evanovich, Robert Crais, etc. But, I somehow switched to Romance Novel's and am hooked.

I read late at night and into the wee hours of the morning, so the lighter reading suits me better.

I too, like Judith McNaught, Katherine Stone, Nora Roberts, Sandra Brown,Jayne Ann Krentz, Jennifer Crusie,Carol O'Connell, and so many more. My library has a web site and I can pull up Authors and Books and check to see if they are in before I go there. Yours most likely has one as well. It is a big help.

Nothing compares with Seniornet, though, and I rarely miss a day without checking my subscriptions for new messages. I must have about a dozen to which I subscribe. Marjorie does a wonderful job and is so friendly and welcoming. Thank you Marjorie. We love you.

Lou

I am always into a book. In fact when going to the denist's office I took a book. By the time of the next visit I was into another. The visits wer one to two days apart. lol Reading one romance after another is new to me, but I love them. However, I still love to read mysteries. Rosamunde Pilchner (sp?) and Nora Roberts are my all time favorite romance authors. When I thought about writing, I wanted to be able to write like Pilchner. Her characters are people I would love to know beyond the end of the book.

I also can visit my library on-line. It is wonderful to be able to renew books from the comfort of my office. This e-world is a great place.

Thanks for all the kind words everyone. I would like to remind those of you who haven't yet done so to click on the links in the heading. There are a lot of interesting websites for you to check out.

I generally like Katherine Stone and particularly enjoyed Happy Endings. I recently started her book Rainbows and put it down halfway through. I rarely do that. I decided that I really didn't like the characters. I have been reading lots of Harlequin books lately and enjoy that I don't have to put much effort into the books I am reading.

At the moment I am reading Nora Roberts book Dreams and Reflections. I think it was recommended here. I am not sure. There is time travel in it and I was surprised to find that it works well. Sometimes time travel works for me and sometimes it doesn't. There are two stories in this book and I am in the middle of the first story.

Hi HATS, HARRIET, LOU, GINNY ANN, GAILIE, and SUE. Without all of you this discussion wouldn't be worth visiting.

JUDY, NORTHERN JOAN, O'SHARNY, APPLEPIE, M(arj), TEAKUP, WYNONA, BRUMIE, IMAN (Dorothy), and SAT: Where are you? A couple of you haven't posted for months. Are you still around? Any other lurkers?

Please if you are lurking, post so we can all say "Hi."

Marjorie

Hats: I do recommend A Walk to Remember, but be sure to have your hanky ready. It's a 3 hanky read, even on the second reading. Although I knew the outcome, I couldn't help boohooing at one special place near the end. I don't want to give it away, so will say no more.

Hi Harriet, louweave, Marjorie, and GinnyAnn. I've never read Katherine Stone, so will be on the lookout for her. I have a big Maeve Binchy, Scarlet Feather, to take to the beach on Wednesday. We're going down for a few days of R & R.

Happy reading! Sue

Hi Marjorie, Sue, Harriet, Louweave and All,

Thanks Sue, I can't wait to start 'A Walk to Remember.' I will get my hankies ready. I do want to say that Marjorie does seem like a special person and the most perfect person to help us learn about new romances.

Harriet, I had forgotten about Amanda quick! She is one of my favorites. It is hard to put hers down. A lady at the library introduced me to Amanda Quick.

Marjorie, I tried a Harlequin last week. It was a fast read, and yet, there was so much to the plot. The book is called 'Fortune's Secret Daughters.' It takes place in Alaska. I won't tell you much more, but there is a family relationship problem. You begin to feel for the heroine right away.

To a Special Group of Friends, have a nice day!

HATS: I tried looking for 'Fortune's Secret Daughters at Barnes & Noble and it is out of print. The out-of-print dealers were charging $9.49 for it. I found it on half.com for $0.75 plus shipping. I think I will have to start going to the library so that I don't keep accumulating books. One of the things I like about many of the Harlequin/Silhouette books I have been reading is the imagination the authors use in their plots.

Yesterday I posted about the time travel Nora Roberts book I am reading. However, I didn't bother going and looking at the book cover and remembered the title incorrectly. The one I mentioned is on my bookshelf and I haven't started it. The one I am reading was published in 2001 as Time and Again and is made up of Time Was, 1989, and Time Changed, 1990.

Hi SUE.

Marjorie

Marjorie, that's where I bought my copy of 'Fortune's Secret Daughters.' I bought it from Half.Com. I love the library, but the dates drive me nuts. Before I can start a book, it seems time to take it back. At a future date, I might start going again.

Have you visited 'eharlequin.com?' That's a good site.

I do want to read Nora Roberts time travel too. First, I have to read my 'Heart of the Sea.'

Last Sunday I bought Time and Again at a local discount store. Great minds and all that. lol At a different store I bought Sullivan's Last Stand by Harper Allen.

I have had trouble getting to buy from half.com. Is there a secret way to get into their buying database?

Library verus buying. It used to be, if I bought a book, it was doomed to be never read because I seemed to always have had a library book that needed to be read before I returned it to the library. But lately, I have been reading the books I have purchased. Now it is more the mood I am in when it is time to start the next book that determines my next read. The book may have looked good at the library, however, by the time I get to it, my mood may have changed. It sure is a tight rope walk between the two ways of getting books. But wait we have a third way of getting books -- The Book Exchange here at SeniorNet!!! It is not quite buying, but it surely isn't borrowing. hehehe.

HATS: I checked out eharlequin.com as you suggested. There is certainly a lot there. I haven't decided if I want to register there and get 2 free books. I think I then will have to cancel a shipment of 4 other books if I don't want to get books every month. I think I prefer to find my own books. It is a great resource even without my using it for shopping.

GINNY ANN: Thanks for the plug for the Book Exchange. I haven't found any "secret" way to get to the half.com database. I just go to www.half.com and then in the search box put the title I want to find and select "Books" just to the left of the search box. I then get a list of books to select from. Only when I say "buy" does the software take me to where I need to login. I have found it easy to use. If you have more trouble, email me the details of what you are doing and I will see if I can help you.

Marjorie

I am not sure about this but isn't Amanda Quick another name that Jayne Anne Krentz uses??

Hi Judy,

I have heard that Amanda Quick and Jayne Krentz are one and the same. I think she also writes under other names too, but I don't know the other names.

I just started reading Brazen Virtue by Nora Roberts (one of my favorite authors). It seems like it will be typical Roberts style. I got this book from the Literary Guild. A solicitor from Literary Guild called me, offering to send me a free book. No obligation to joint membership. I told them I definately would not join but it they wanted to send me a free book go ahead and they did. I had to call an 800 number to cancel membership which I did. Hope I don't find a pile of books delivered to my doorstep.

I just got back from the library and I'm thrilled with all my goodies. I must have at least 15 books! I've definitely overextended myself because I'll never be able to finish all the books by the due date, but I really don't care. My library allows long distance renewals so I'll just keep renewing by computer or phone.

I found books by Teresa Madeiros, Susan Carroll, Norah Roberts, Catherine Coulter, Janet Dailey, Jane Ann Krentz, Jo Beverley, Kathleen Woodiwiss, and a few more authors that I can't even recall. I'm so happy with my pile of books that I feel as if someone declared a holiday. I can't wait to begin.

Aren't books wonderful?

Harriet

Amanda Quick is the pen name Jayne Anne Krentz uses to write historical novels. Jayne Castle is her pen name for science fiction romances.

HARRIET: Your enthusiasm comes across loud and clear in your post. Enjoy all your reading.

GAILIE: Once time I "joined" something to get two free romances and then after I got the first month of books I had to pay for I cancelled. Sometimes that works well. Especially if I don't forget to cancel.

Hi JUDY and HATS.

Marjorie

Hi All,

Harriet, which book did you choose first? Is it as good as you expected?

Hats, I started with Madeiro's Kiss to Remember. I'm part of the way into it and it seems good so far, but not as impossible-to-put-down as McNaught's Almost Heaven for instance. Maybe it just needs a chapter or two more to really get rolling.

Hi Marjorie and everyone.

Harriet

Harriet, I have not read Almost Heaven. I have only read one book by McNaught. It was awhile back. 'Night Whispers.' I hope the title is correct.I will put Almost Heaven on my reading list.

I hope everyone will have a nice weekend. There is so much going on with this Anthrax situation.

Today I was at a large discount club store. Well guess were I spent a lot of time! The book row of course:-) Ended up buying two by Nora Roberts. There were a bunch of other books, but I could only buy a couple so Nora won.

When I got home from the store I finished read Harper Allen's Sullivan's Last Stand. It was a good read. Then later I started Handsome As Sin by Kelsey Roberts. This one is harder to put down than the Allen book and I liked the Allen book! It is paired with Barbara Delinsky's Father of the Bride.

I hope everyone has a good weekend. To escape all the scares, curl up with a romance.

Hi HARRIET, HATS, and GINNY ANN. Lots of good books mentioned.

Have a great weekend everyone.

Marjorie

HI GINNYANN,

Thanks for new author(for me), I added Kelsey Roberts and Handsome as Sin to my Library list. You have a good week-end too.

Hi Marjorie, you too.

Lou

Here is a lurker reporting in. The ols story, so much to do. I'm lurking because I'm reading Stephen King right now. About 800 pages, paper back, and not that much time to read. Husband decided to talk to me while I eat so there goes reading time or a part of it.

Had to laugh a while back when you had such big decisions of how to pick the next book you will read. For me, it is simple. Just take the next one on the shelf. Unless it is the same author or close to the same subject, or another one sounds better OR if I don't knock them off the shelf and have to put them back again. Such problems

Just finished another book by Rebecca York. Midnight Caller is an Intrigue book that reads like a mystery novel. Rebecca York is Ruth Glick's Pseudonym.

I use to live quite close to Stephen King. His house is really strange, looks haunted. Never liked his books but I do admire him.

my husband noticed how hooked I am on romance books. He remembers when I only occasionaly read one. Now he see me pouring over Romantic Times magazine. Today I took my notebook to the library looking for authors that merit 4 1/2 to 4 *. It is such fun! I ended up finding some Nora Robert's books I haven't read yet. You should see the stack of books by my reading chair!!! Happy Reading Everyone.

I just finished reading Brazen Virtue by Nora Roberts. It was good but not up to her usual standards. I started reading Susan Elizabeth Phillips, Just Imagine it's a re-write of Risen Glory. She wrote Risen Glory back in the 70's so it is probably a lot different then her more current novels. I really like this author but she has not written to many books to date and they are hard to find.

GAILIE: I have Nobody's Baby but Mine by Susan Elizabeth Philips on the Book Exchange if you want it for the cost of the postage.

GINNY ANN: I really "should" get to the library sometime instead of being lazy and getting my books on the computer. I don't pay full price. However, the library is free. Oh well. Someday.

I have books in so many places that when I want my next book to read my first decision is whether I want something quick or not and then I just put my hand out and grab one from the appropriate pile.

Hi HATS, LOU, HARRIET, and O'SHARNEY (delighted to see your post).

Marjorie

Standoff was good. Romantic Times magazine gave it 4*.

I found this today. http://www.fictiondb.com/RomanceDB/Default.htm It is a datbase with information on series books and so much more.

I just finished reading Katherine Stone's "Promises". I enjoyed it, but it is the first time in a long time that I have had to restrain myself to keep from going to back of book to see how it ends. Not going to tell, though.

I have Kay Hooper's "Elusive Dawn", Jude Deveraux's Velvet Song", and Teresa Medeiro's "A Kiss to Remember" to look forward to. Must have gotten those from you guys here on Romance books. Thanks. Lou

Hi All,

Lou, Jude Deveraux is one of my favorites. My favorite is A Knight in Shining Armor. I also enjoyed An Angel for Emily and Sweet Liar. She is such a good author. I have never been disappointed by her.

Has anyone read books by Samantha James? I have one by hers called One Moonlit Night.

MARJORIE Thanks for the offer, but I have already read Nobody's Baby But Mine. It was a good read.

GINNY ANN: I put your link in the heading with the title "Another Romance Resource." Thanks.

Hats, I loved A Knight In Shining Armor too.

I just finished The Devil's Heiress by Jo Beverley. I like the way she writes a lot. I was surprised to see that it was a Regency romance because the other of her novels that I read was a medieval romance. It must be hard to research and write about two historical periods.

Anyway, it turns out the The Devil's Heiress was the last of a trilogy and I had to scramble to keep up with characters that must have appeared previously in the other two books. Once I got all the characters straight it was a good read.

There was an unusual romantic scene in the book where the heroine and hero laugh together and play with words as well as with their feelings. Very nice.

Hi Marjorie, Hats, Sue, Ginny Ann and everyone.

Harriet

Hi Harriet,

I have been wanting to read Jo Beverley. I wonder which book comes before The Devil's Heiress? Don't worry, I will find out. I will certainly make it one I read soon.

I am glad you liked A Knight in Shining Armor too. I just melt everytime I think of that book. Last night I finished One Moonlit Night by Samantha James. It was really good. There are gypsies, a kidnapping, love, love, love and wealth. I won't tell the plot, but you do learn that it is horrible to judge others by their appearance.

Hi Everyone, have a wonderful time reading this weekend!

I am just finishing Fern Michaels What You Wish For and it is a great read.

Candi just came down and brought me her usual load of books. She is after me every day to see if I have started one called The First Time by Joy Fielding, she has been really pushing it she says its a great book so thats my next read.

Hi Marjorie

Yesterday I finished My Child, Our Child by Patricia Hagen. A fast read. There was a section was very clever idea. This is a note from the "heroine" to the "hero":

Hi Sam,
I saw how you tried not to show how disappointed you were at lunch today when Bonnie [his cook] told you she'd burned your pie. So it gave me the idea for the perfect "happy" for you, so, here 'tis.[a perfect homemade pie]

A "happy," by the way, is something you give to someone for no other reason than to make them happy -- because they made you happy, like you did me today, when you allowed me to come into your home and share lunch.

Enjoy.
Jackie

Hi everyone.

Marjorie

I just finished On Mystic Lake by Kristin Hannah. She is a new author to me. I really enjoyed the book. I found myself crying in several places. The people are very real. I am going to have to find more of her books. The story starts when Annie's husband of 20 years tells her he wants a divorce the same day their only daughter leaves for 3 months. The reader is taken with Annie on a journey of discovery of what she wants in her life and what her life has meant so far.

Hi everyone! I have been traveling again and not doing much reading. I went to the St. Net Bash in PA and had a ball. I did drive to Michigan and met Katie Sturtz to drive the rest of the way. On my journey by myself I had along a book on tape so listened to: Breathing Lessons by Ann Tyler. It was interesting and I enjoyed it even if it didn't end as I suspected it would.

I need to get to the library to get another book to read. I am making note of the authors mentioned. One author you folks have mentioned is Susan(I think) Elizabeth Phillips. I can't find anything by her in our library.

Northern Joan

NORTHERN JOAN: I have Nobody's Baby but Mine by Susan Elizabeth Philips on the Book Exchange.

Hi Marjorie, I want to read On Mystic Lake by Hannah. Another friend told me it was wonderful. I did read Angel Falls, and it was great. She's just a good writer.

Hi Joan.

JOAN Susan Elizabeth Phillip's books are hard to find in the library. Our library had quite a few of them, but it is a huge library. You can get them in paperback at your local book store. I got some of them on books on tape that's how I discovered this author. I have read or listened to all her books.

I will do a library search for Phillips books. I generally do not buy books because then I have to decide what to do with them when I am finished. If all else fails, I may consider buying some of them and then donating them to the library.

Northern Joan

I've just finished a fascinating book, not a romance, but a fictionalized account of one family's genealogy. It was an Oprah book club selection and I borrowed it from our library. Lalita Tademy is the author of Cane River, the story of her family back to the times when they were slaves in Louisiana. Tademy was an executive from Sun Microsystems in California. She resigned to do research in Louisiana. Some of the contents are horrifying--it's just so hard to imagine living as a slave or a master. There were 6 generations in the book. The first 4 were female slaves who had families by slave owners and/or their acquaintances. Unbelievable in this day and time. Sue

Thanks Sue I will put CANE RIVER on my list of books to read.

Finished "A Woman's Place" by Barbara Delinsky which was mentioned some time back. Really caught my attention and read it in four days which is fast for me. Great book for anyone who hasn't read it yet. Now on to another Robert Ludlum.

O'SHARNY: Thanks for reminding me about A Woman's Place. I obtained a copy a couple of days ago. Right now I am finishing Reflections and Dreams by Nora Roberts. I am also reading more of Kirstin Hannah's books.

Good Morning All,

I just finished Eclipse Bay by Krentz. I am looking forward to the second part of the trilogy, but I won't be able to start it immediately.

Thanks for the heads up on a Woman's Place I have it and think I will start it tonight.

HATS: I didn't realize Eclipse Bay was part of a trilogy. What are the other titles in the trilogy?

Hi JUDY.

MARJORIE How did you like Reflections and Dreams? I am probably going to get it.

a different one by Nora Roberts. Divine Evil It was more a suspense book than a romance. The bad guys are Satan worshippers. Not for everybody.

GAILIE: There are two stories in the book Reflections and Dreams. I like both stories and enjoyed the first more than one second that I am reading now.

GINNY ANN: Thanks for warning me about Divine Evil. I think I will skip that one.

Hi Marjorie, the first one is Eclipse Bay, and the second one is Dawn on Eclipse Bay. I don't know the name of the third one or if Krentz has even published it.

On the inside cover of Eclipse Bay, Krentz writes, "Eclipse Bay is the first book of the three-book series that will tell the stories of the Hartes and the Madisons of Eclipse Bay, Oregon."

If you find the title to the third one, please let me know.

Hi to Everyone.

HATS: I found Dawn on Eclipse Bay on half.com and discovered it was written in May, 2001. Maybe the third book hasn't been published yet.

GINNY ANN I like Nora Roberts but I don't think I will read Divine Evil. I don't like satin worshipers either.

Marjorie, I bet your right. So far, it is a good series. I am glad we were tipped off about Divine Evil. I do not want to read that one either. Everyone here is so helpful.

If any of you are interesting in discussing On Mystic Lake by Kristin Hannah, please go to the proposed discussion so that we can see if we have enough people to have a discussion. Thanks.

I've been reading every day, but for a week or so I just stuck with repeats, so didn't post. However I've finished 3 books that some readers may find interesting.

The Summer House by Jean Stone is a family story primarily with politics, romance, intrigue, a hurricane, and murder thrown in. I found it enjoyable and will look for other books by Jean Stone.

I had purchased 2 books by Sandra Brown the last time we were at the used book store at the beach, but didn't start reading them because they sounded familiar. I thought I'd read them. Now that I've finished both of them, I think I probably read the first chapter of each in some other Brown novel. They have those little teasers at the end of the more recent ones. Anyhow, I didn't remember much past the first few pages and had to read continuously to find out what happened. The books are Mirror Image and The Witness. Both were good reads full of suspense and good plots as well as satisfying romance although there were lots of bends in the road in the romance department. Sue

I started reading about 4 years ago when I had time on my hands. It seemed to be something I enjoyed after picking up the first book at the beauty shop. I guess ever since then I have been hooked.

I was reading so much, and afraid I was going to re-read some of the same books over again that I picked up a notebook and put the authors name on each page and the books I had read by that author. Now when i'm looking for a book, I know if I have read it or not.

I have read 53 of Sandra Browns's books, and have lots of favorite authors. I just finished the Lake News by Barbara Delinsky, and have read 20 of hers.

LaVyrle Spencer, Debbie McComber, Heather Graham, so many good writers. But I have noticed that you have to watch also, because they change the covers on the books and it may be one you have read before...Jerelyn

I used to write down the titles and authors of books read in a notebook. Each was entered alpabeticaly with a page for each letter of the alphabet. Now I use a data base template on my compter. I record - title, author, date read, copyright, type, publisher, number of pages, my rating and more. The data base sorts the books in a three step process that I set up. ABC order by author, copyright, and date read. It is very helpful.

JERELYN: Welcome to our group. I don't remember seeing you post here before. Have you been around SeniorNet very long. Have you been to the Archives folder in Books & Literature? There are 213 discussions there. One of them is Lake News that we discussed sometime in the last year. You might be interested in taking a look at the discussion and see if you agree with what people said about the book.

Sue, You won't believe this, but I just bought The Summerhouse by Jean Stone last night! What a coincidence! I have Birthday Girls, but I have not read it yet. I read one book by Jean Stone and just knew I had to read another one. Her books are great! I love her covers too. Usually, there is a beach scene.

I read The Witness too and enjoyed it.

Marjorie, I am prepared for the discussion. I bought my copy of Mystic Lake. I am so excited because this will be my first book discussion that involves a romance.

I just finished A Woman Scorned by Liz Carlyle. Has anyone read her books? I think she has two more written. I am almost finished Fortune's Bride by Victoria Malvey. It's a regency romance and really funny.

Hello to All, and I hope you enjoyed your weekend.

an oldie, One Last Chance by Justine Davis. Davis is also know as Janice Davis Smith. Its copyright is 1993. I found it at my library.

Before it I finished Long Time No See by Susan Isaacs. It was both a mystery and love story.

I am reading Whiskey Island by Emilie Richards. I think it is wonderful! To me, it seems like a family saga.

I just finished reading the Silhouette series "Switched at Birth" which is a story of two sets of twin boys who are switched at birth and the women who make them happy. Quite a complicated story told by 2 different authors in 4 books. I have a number of different series like this if anyone is interested. I can send them and we can count them as Book Exchanges.

Marjorie

Hi Marjorie, "Switched at Birth," I have put it on my reading list. Thanks for sharing it. It is a new series for me. You guys, know so many good titles. I just need more time.

I hope everyone is having a relaxing weekend.

I'm trying to find time to finish a Rita Mae Brown--Sneaky Pie Brown mystery, Rest in Pieces. I just finished their Wish You Were Here. These are both Mrs. Murphy, the cat, mysteries with help from Harry Hairsteen (Post Mistress), Tee Tucker (corgi), and Pewter (very fat cat friend). These are cute mysteries that have short chapters so are ideal for doctor appointments when you are waiting. Sue

The Bounty Hunter's Baby by Julie McBride. It was a fun light read that I found at the library.

I have purchased many older romances from my library for cheap prices. They bag them up and seal them, so they are 'mystery buys'. They charge 25 cents for a package of about 6 books. I think of them as 'panning for gold nuggets.' You never know what you might find. This time one of the books is Gentle Rogue by Johanna Lindsey.

You lucked out, GinnyAnn. Johanna Lindsey usually writes a good read. I think Gentle Rogue is one of the Mallory family, but I could be wrong. Sue

I am feeling sad today because my aunt died. She was 87 and pain free at the end. She had a mastectomy 2 years ago and the cancer returned in her liver. You all feel like family and I wanted to share this with you. Thank you all for being part of this discussion group. It is wonderful to be able to reach out to people who care as I know you all do.

I have found myself unable to focus on much today. When I first found out early this morning, I was just numb. Now I know how sad I am.

Marjorie

Marjorie, you probably know that I saw this in BBs earlier this evening. I'm so sorry, but I'm glad that you feel like sharing with this group, too. It says a lot when we can be real with our cyber friends. I'm holding you in the light and your Mother, too. It's got to be really hard for her, also. Love and hugs, Sue

Marjorie, I offer my condolences. I am so sorry to hear of your loss.

This discussion group, and you, have been an ongoing part of my life for a long time now and I care about you very much.

Your mother is also in my thoughts.

Love, Harriet

Good Morning Marjorie,

I am very sad to hear about the loss of your aunt. A loss of a family member is so difficult. I hope it helps just knowing that all of us are thinking about you daily. We know it hurts terribly.

Thank you SUE, HARRIET, and HATS. I appreciate your sympathies. Most of the family is in the Chicago area and that is so far away from California. Having you as close as my computer helps me feel connected. The telephone keeps me in touch with family.

Thank you for sharing your sad news with us. We are family!

{{{{{{hug}}}}} May God hold you in the palm of His hand and give you comfort.

So sorry for your loss Marjorie. My family lives back east and I am in Calif. It's so hard when you are so far away especially at times like these. May God's grace shine upon her.

Marjorie....I want to add my condolences on the loss of your aunt. Yes, distance is a problem, and yes, talking with cyber friends can help...so don't apologize for being "off subject". I pray that God will enfold you with his peace and give you comfort in this time of sorrow.

Northern Joan

Marjorie, may I add my sympathy in your loss. I'm sure you have many memories to help you thru this sad time in your life. She is at peace.

GINNY ANN, GAILIE, NORTHERN JOAN, and O'SHARNY: Thanks for your thoughts. My aunt has two children. I spoke to one yesterday and the other today. We don't have a lot of contact normally but both conversations were very comforting. All of us have agreed that we now need to stay in touch with my mother and other aunt because they will both be very lonely.

Peace be with all of you.

Marjorie

Dear Marjorie,

I am checking in a bit late, and I am so sorry to hear about your Aunt. I just lost a favorite and my last Aunt on either side of my family, so I know just how you feel. My heartfelt condolences to you and your family.

Love, Lou

I want to give you all a "heads up" on the 6 series of books I have offered on the Book Exchange HERE.

I particularly liked the plots of the Switched at Birth and Who's the Daddy? series. I remembering enjoying all of them.

I have now read 6 Kristin Hannah books and enjoyed every one of them. I just finished one she wrote in 1991 -- A Handful of Heaven. It is set in the Yukon in 1896 and I was just delighted with the story. The heroine answered an advertisement to become a partner in a trading post and her reaction to the Yukon (after coming from St. Louis) and her new "partner" is lots of fun.

Barbara Delinsky's The Outsider. It was a fun fast read. It did have one poignant part. The two main character visited New York and dined at the World Trade Center restaurant at the top of the tower.

Hello all. I'm a new poster in this Romance section.
Have any of you read anything by Andrew M. Greeley?

I made a random choice from the shelves at the library and came home with a book by Andrew M. Greeley entitled: "Rite of Spring." I had never heard of him. I'm not sure this post belongs in this romance category, but it seems to, at this point. I haven't finished reading the book. It seems to be developing into a mystery. I suppose you could call it romantic suspense.

I went to the following URL to learn more about Greeley:
http://www.agreeley.com/profile.html

I was surprised to find out that he's quite famous as a priest and a writer. Where have I been all my life? LOL

Some quotes from the website noted above:
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Greeley knows that most Catholic elites, the types who edit journals... and teach seminars in literary theory, dismiss his novels as lowbrow potboilers. They sneer and snicker at the sex scenes, writing him off as an object lesson in vanity and hucksterism. He doesn’t need their approval, he says, but he worries they’re missing the point.
[...]
Readers perturbed by overt sexuality would probably gag at Greeley’s use of [the words] "spreading the gospel" to describe what he’s up to. For them, works like "smut" and "sleaze" leap more naturally to mind. Yet Greeley insists that the sex -- which, truth to be told, is not as all-pervasive in his novels as some believe -- is a huge part of his theological agenda.

"At the most basic level, people learn from the novels that sex is good," Greeley said. "Then, they get the notion that sexual love is a sacrament of God’s love, that sexual love tells us something about God. They also understand that God’s love tells us something about sex.

"God operates through attraction," Greeley says. "He is the alluring God, the God that’s calling, the God that’s appealing, the God that’s seductive. That’s the important influence of God in our life. Wherever there is allurement, wherever there is attraction, there is God."

Greeley knows that plenty of folks have wondered just how he got to be such an expert. "Either I don’t know anything about sex because I’m a priest and am pretending," Greeley said, "or I know too much for a priest. Either way I lose."
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What have you heard about this writer? If you've read his books, what do you think of them?

I'm finding that the book has definitely caught my interest. He puts the hook in early in the story and that keeps you reading.

Rita

I haven't heard a thing, Rita, but your comments are certainly sparking my interest. Greeley sounds to me like he was always a writer who found that his FIRST love was religion. Now, having achieved his priesthood, he wants to write, and perhaps wants to extend himself into non-theological areas.

I've always adored romantic novels for their escapism and pleasurable reading. I'm a big adherant of the idea that they have their place in the reading life of even the most literate people, some of whom may be "secret" romance readers.

Greeley's statements, of course, add a theological spark of "rightness" to the pleasure of reading my favorite things. Where has Greeley been all my life? Where have YOU been, Rita? Here you are carrying the banner for the righteousness of romantic reading right into the heart of the romantic readers niche in SN.

Yay for you, Rita! You've come to the right place! I'm definitely going to look for a Greeley book in the near future.

I have not read anything by Andrew Greeley but I see the books in the library all the time. They catch my eye as the jackets are quite attractive if I recall correctly. I will have to take one off the shelf sometime soon.

I finally read a Susan Elizabeth Phillips book. Dream A Little Dream. I agree her writing is good but I think she gets into the sex a bit much.

Am currently reading a Fern Michels book....What You Wish For. Seems to be pretty good so far.

Northern Joan

Welcome to our corner of Books & Literature RITA RUSS. What an interesting author. I will have to look into him also.

I just finished reading another of Debbie Macomber's books. This one is Three Brides, No Groom. The three women are back for a 15th reunion of their college graduating class when they get together and tell about what happened to each of them after graduation. They each were engage to be married and the marriages they expected did not take place. I always feel her stories are gently told. I am not sure exactly what I mean by that. It is just that, even with the problems and meanness of some characters, I feel comfortable when I read her books.

NORTHERN JOAN: The books I have read by Fern Michaels have been ones of generations of families with lots of conflict and right now I don't seem to have the patience to read them.

Hi HARRIET.

Marjorie

is a great story teller. I have read almost all of his fiction works. He can get a bit wordy at times, but he always has great books. One f my favorrites of his is The Patience of a Saint. Many of his stories take pace in Chicago, but he also has set them in Ireland and Rome. Yes, his books have the characters making love with each other. But is always done in a tasteful manner and very tame in comparrison to many of the romances I have enjoyed. lol

I just finished The Perfect Neighbor by Nora Roberts. It is a 4 1/2* read. It is one of her MacGregor stories.

GINNY ANN: I liked the MacGregor series. I think I read most of them some time ago. The title The Perfect Neighbor sounds familiar. Which characters are in the book?

I agree with GinnyAnn that Andrew Greeley can get a little wordy at times. He seems to want to mention every street and every building in Chicago! LOL Actually, I think he needs a good editor and also a good proof-reader. There were so many typos in the large-type edition I read. But the story was good.

I enjoy a good romance story once in a while. Have any romance authors ever won any prestigious awards, not including awards given by the romance magazines, etc.?

One time I heard a remark by someone who said: "All these old ladies love romance books. I don't get it." I had to laugh when I heard that remark. Obviously this person has never gotten hooked on a romantic novel. Some of us never tire of the wonderful feeling of being in love. There are some writers who can recreate this feeling for their readers. It's an escape into a delicious fantasy. And if the sex scenes are good, that's icing on the cake.

BTW, have any of you ever tried to write a sex scene? It's one of the most difficult things in the world, as far as I'm concerned. I tried to do it and I couldn't get past the first word. Maybe I'm repressed. LOL

Rita

RITA: I can't write period. I can't even begin to imagine how to put these scenes on paper. I am good at lots of things but creating a story is not one of them.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING everyone!

Yes, I have written a sex scene. Right now I have a story percolating in my brain. One of these days it will get written. Until then I keep reading and learning.

I guess I'm too inhibited to be able to write a sex scene, but I do enjoy reading them.

I think that romantic authors who write sex scenes are very brave. There has to be an element of personal fantasy in such writing and I feel it it takes a strong personality to be able to reveal that part of one's inner life for others to see.

Do you think that's why so many romance writers start out with nom de plumes? IF I were a writer, I wouldn't mind strangers reading a book I wrote...but if my next door neighbor reads it, that's less comfortable. It would have so many private thoughts in it and somehow I would feel more shy with someone I knew in real life.

I hope everyone had a joyful Thanksgiving.

Hi Marjorie, GinnyAnn and Harriet,
Thanks for your replies.

I agree with you, Harriet, about the need for the privacy of pen names. I'm a very private person and it has always bothered me to think that people I know might be discussing my private matters with each other, no matter what those private matters may be.

The privacy we gain on the Net by using pen names allows me to express myself more fully than I ever would in real life. There's something liberating in discussing things with strangers, in the same way one is friendly to strangers on a train. We're free of the baggage of background info about each other. It's as though we have a clean slate to work with.

To change the subject a bit, one of the problems I find with the romance genre is the scarcity of sophisticated writers. So many of the writers are sophomoric or immature. I think Judith Krantz provides a good read. Catherine Coultier is usually pretty good. BTW, Does anyone ever suspect that her name may be a front for many different "ghost" writers?

I consider Danielle Steele sophomoric. Can anyone suggest any other romance writer who isn't sophomoric? Thanks.

Rita

I've been considering the above questions and here are some of my thoughts for whatever they may be worth.

I feel that romance novels, by their very nature, are not a particularly sophisticated form of literature. When they expand beyond a certain point of complexity, they metamorph into something else. Perhaps a great book? Or the great American novel? If I hope for a romance novel to win a literature prize I have to be willing to accept that the book must depart from the very formula that makes it such an endearing read in the romance genre. The book might have to discuss universal issues and great ideas! But then it isn't primarily a romance any more, and I LOVE my romances.

Maybe the charm of romances subsists in the ready path they provide to fantasy and love. Rita expressed it so well when she said:

"Some of us never tire of the wonderful feeling of being in love. There are some writers who can recreate this feeling for their readers. It's an escape into a delicious fantasy."

I couldn't agree more.

That said, everyone has a personal level of fantasy that they relate to best. Also possibly a minimium level of reality that may be necessary before we can throw ourselves wholeheartedly into a romance. Coulter usually writes about men who have some thinking capacities and abilities in tenderness. Kathleen Woodiwiss does "bodice rippers" with minimal character development and maximum sensuality. When I was much younger, I preferred Woodiwiss. Nowadays I'm more inclined to Coulter's style. Ah me! I have grown older.

The more romance novels I read, the more delicious permutations appear on the themes of love, fantasy and sensuality. I just love it!

I'm glad that there are many kinds of romance novels for my many moods. I'm equally glad that there are so many great novels in literature and non-fiction for other times and needs.

Aren't books nice?

Harriet

BTW, Marjorie put a link in the banner of this discussion about authors pseudonyms. Very interesting. Do you think Coulter might be using ghost writers? Her style HAS changed a lot in recent years.

Back when I was younger, I read both Woodiwiss and Rosemary Rodgers. Woodiwsis'work always seemed tame and sweet. Rodger's work seemed spicier. The female may not be a virgin when she meets the hero. With Woodiwiss you new that the herione would end up with the hero and it was the fun of the awakening to love for both of them. Rodgers' work was steamier and less certain. (At least that was how I remember it. I haven't read her work in quite awhile.)

I think pen names are used for many varied purposes. Sometimes the author is well known for one style and wants to try something different. Many men used to write romance stories but used a female name as that gave them a better chance of being read.

When I went back to college and earned a BS in English, I turned my nose up at the series romances. Now I love them because they are quick satisfying reads. I do try, however, to read the better writers for this style of writing. Barbara Delinsky, Sandra Brown, and Nora Roberts started with Harlequlin or Siloutte.

What a wonderful conversation has developed here! Thank you everyone!

RITA: As HARRIET said, there is a link in the heading to check pseudonyms. I have had a lot of fun looking authors up there. I don't remember whether or not I checked Catherine Coulter.

For the last week or two I have been reading romances that are very fast reads. My attention span isn't what I want for a longer more complicated book. There are so many authors and so many books. I know I won't be able to read them all so I read what I want at the time.

Have a great evening everyone!

Marjorie

I have just returned from a trip to the Twin Cities and had a book on tape for the trip. It was "This Heart of Mine" by Susan Elizabeth Phillips. Again, a good story but I think she puts too much emphasis on the sex scenes. I like to have a little left to my imagination. And, somehow, it seems more bothersome on an audio tape than just reading it.

I also just finished "What You Wish For" by Fern Michaels. It was not a great book but nonetheless interesting. It dealt with spousal abuse and escape from such abuse.

I now have a NOra Roberts book to read and the title escapes me at the minute.

Northern Joan

Happy Happy Birthday, Marjorie!!

Happy
Birthday
Marjorie
GinnyAnn

Have
A Wonderful Birthday,
Marjorie!

Harriet

Thank you for your birthday wishes GINNY, GINNY ANN, and HARRIET.

Hi NORTHERN JOAN.

I am reading a Silhouette Special Edition series by Allison Leigh called The Men of the Double-C Ranch. I am enjoying it.

Marjorie

Happy Birthday, Marjorie.

I have to agree with the comments of Harriet and GinnyAnn about romance novels. This genre is by its very nature a bit unsophisticated, although some are more so than others.

I also agree with Marjorie about reading what we're in the mood for. That's OK. After all, most of us do read for pleasure and entertainment.

Thanks to all for your comments on the various writers and their different qualities.

I'll check out the section on pen names. Thanks.

Rita

Hello to all !!!!

Have just been reading some of the most recent posts and decided to join in. I don't read the serial romances but do like a good romance story. Last year I read "Losing Julia" by Johnathon Hull. This is and excellent first novel and I recommend it highly. Haven't seen a second book from him yet but hope there will be one soon. It should be in most libraries, that is where I picked it up quite by accident. You never know what lies betweeen the pages.

Gail 62/ Moonlight in Vermont

Welcome GAIL NORMA. I am glad you found this group.

Hi RITA.

I just had a scare. I downloaded a file from an email from someone I know. The file had a wierd name and I should have known better. I downloaded a worm.

MARCIE posted here about this worm. DO NOT DOWNLOAD any file that ends in .pif or .scr.

It scared me but I think I have cleaned the files off my machine. I am going to do a virus check again.

Do keep your virus checkers up to date everyone.

Marjorie

When I first came on today I read a notice about a worm that started up over the Thanksgiving weekend. For the story goto http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5099934,00.html
After seeing it I went and updated my virus software.

Harlequin Intrigue Thief of Hearts by Tess Geritsen. It is a good, fast read. The setting is modern day England. It could have been titled My Gentleman because the hero is one.

Hi, fellow romance readers. We've just returned from a week at the beach, gorgeous weather and great company. I did finish two romance novels and both were goodies--but for the life of me I can't remember titles. Tomorrow when I get everything put away, I'll look for them and tell you about them.

Hi and welcome, Rita and Gail. Have you tried anything by my favorite, Jayne Ann Krentz/Amanda Quick/Jayne Castle? And how about the 4 book series by Diana Gabaldon--the time travel Voyager best sellers?

I didn't like Woodiwiss or Rosemary Rodgers when I was younger and still don't like them. They didn't have enough plot to keep me interested.

Thanks for mentioning the Susan Elizabeth Phillips, Northern Joan. I love her books, so funny and human. Is this a new one?

Happy birthday, Marjorie. I'm sorry I missed it.

I hope you all had wonderful Thanksgiving gatherings or nice quiet peaceful times at home. Sue

Happy belated birthday Marjorie. I go away for a few days and all kinds of things are happening around here. I just went back to read the previous posts. Lots of good stuff to read. I was in Barnes and Noble today the sequel to Dance Upon The Air is released in paperback. It's the second in the trilogy, the title is Heaven and Earth by Nora Roberts. Can't wait to start reading it.

GAILIE: Thanks for the title of the second in the Nora Roberts' trilogy. I will look for the book. I am waiting until I have all three books to read the first one. I get very impatient if I can't follow one story with the next when it is a series. I have enough to read and decided I would just wait when I purchased the first book.

I also appreciate the title of the next book in Nora Roberts latest trilogy. Like Marjorie, I like to have all three before starting the first one. Then when I start to read them it is like one large novel. In fact her The Calhoun Women had a mystery that ran through all of them and wasn't solved until the last book. I was lucky to get them all in one copy!

Right now I am reading a fantastic book by Glenna McRenyolds titled Prince of Time. Romantic Times gave it 4 1/2G rating. It is new and I feel lucky to have found it at my local library.

Hi everyone. The last five books I read were non-romance but started "Going Home" by Danielle Steele. It's her first book but I have no idea where or how I got it as I rarely read her. Anyone remember reading it?

O'SHARNY: Sorry. I don't remember reading that Danielle Steel book.

Sue, (SpringCreekFarm), you wrote:

"Have you tried anything by my favorite, Jayne Ann Krentz/Amanda Quick/Jayne Castle?"

Does this mean that these three names are pen names for the same person?

I've read books by Krentz and Quick, but not Jayne Castle.

BTW, do you ever wonder if Jayne Ann Krentz copied the name of Judith Krantz in order to capitalize on her fame? In the beginning I often almost confused them, but then I got wise. I believe Krantz is far above most other romance writers. At least that's been my experience. How do any of you others feel about this?

Rita

PS-I just found the answer to my first question. I clicked on the pseudonym link above, and found out that Jayne Ann Krentz' pen names are:

- JAYNE CASTLE
- JAYNE TAYLOR
- AMANDA QUICK
- AMANDA GLASS
- JAYNE BENTLEY
- STEPHANIE JAMES

Very interesting!

Hi Rita, I keep forgetting about Jayne Taylor, Amanda Glass, Jayne Bentley, and Stephanie James when I look for new reads at my favorite used book store. Jayne Castle books are futuristic fantasies set on another planet where people from Earth got stuck years ago. The heroines are usually fiesty detectives, reporters,--at least some type of liberated professional women. I much prefer Krentz to Krantz, but I've read lots of hers, too. Sue

I just finished reading Surrender the Shadow by Sandra Chastain. GINNY ANN mentioned it last summer. I enjoyed the book and am puzzled by the Epilogue. There is nothing about either of the main characters in the epilogue. One of the characters that is part of the action is in the Epilogue with another character that is not in the book at all. It is almost as if it is the beginning for a new book but another book by the same author is not listed at the end.

GINNY ANN: Is this book part of a series?

Hi RITA and SUE. I was confused by Krantz and Krentz at first myself. I also prefer Krentz. Their styles are very different.

Marjorie

SpringCF, thanks for the general description of Jayne Castle's writings. It's always nice to have an idea of where we're going in these books.

Marjorie and Spring, I'll take another look at Krentz when I get a chance.

Rita

Marjorie -- I can't remember the Epilogue, but know I wrote very, very good as my rating for the book. It is the only book I have listed as written by Chastain. As I am surffing the web I will check on it.

I found this at Romantic Times
"In SURRENDER THE SHADOW (4.5), Sandra Chastain sends another of Mac's Angels on a mission to protect a wounded ambassador's beautiful administrative assistant, who turns out to be the woman who seemingly betrayed him years before. Ms. Chastain knocks our socks off with a fabulous hero, known as The Shadow to his comrades, in this thrilling romantic adventure. Melinda Helfer"
It sounds like the people in the Epilogue must be a part of Mac's Angels

SANDRA CHASTAIN

BARING IT ALL

MAC'S ANGELS: THE LAST DANCE

MIDNIGHT FANTASY

RAVEN AND THE COWBOY

SCARLET LADY

SHOTGUN GROOM [RT Award Nominee]

SINNER AND SAINT [RT Award Nominee]

SURRENDER THE SHADOW

THE OUTLAW BRIDE

THE REDHEAD AND THE PREACHER [Cameo/Excerpt] [RT Award Nominee]

THE RUNAWAY BRIDE

Thanks GINNY ANN. When I get a chance I will check out more of Chastain's books.

I just finished reading Heaven and Earth by Nora Roberts, it is the second in the Dance Upon the Air series. I think the second one is better then the first. Can't wait to read number three. It should be out soon; Gail

GAIL: Do you know the name of the third book in the series? I am glad to hear you are enjoying the series.

Hi Gail and Marjorie: I think I'm getting Heaven and Earth for Christmas. My DIL asked for suggestions and I gave her the names of 3 books I want to read, including this one. A package arrived from Amazon.com yesterday with 3 pretty packages. I think it's all 3 of the books I want! I can hardly wait until Christmas to start reading. Sue

An Innocent Mistress by Rebecca Wade? I got about half way into it and kept having a hard time with the basic plot of the book. "Wealthy businessman Jarrod Stone will stop at nothing, including kidnapping the spy?s mistress, to exact his revenge. Sophia La Rue hadn't seen Jarrod since the day her mother's death shattered her world." Romantic Times. Everyone knows he has her but no one tries to free her!

MARJORIE The third book in the Nora Roberts trilogy is Face the Fire. I don't think it's out yet but I am eagerly awaiting its release.

SUE: I am excited with you about your new books. Enjoy!

GINNY ANN: Sorry. I haven't read any Rebecca Wade books. That sounds like a strange plot.

Thanks for the name of the 3rd book GAILIE.

PURPLE SAGE had a copy of Bee Season and I just started it. I have been laughing a lot with this book. It is definitely NOT a romance. I have to go check out the archived Book Club Online discussion of Bee Season and see what other people have said about it.

Marjorie

Jarrod Stone is the undisputed HERO this month from An Innocent Mistress by Rebecca Wade where both love and revenge fuel the passion of desire.

Keep Watching Avon Romance as we start counting down to HERO OF THE YEAR! <http://www.harpercollins.com/hc/features/romance/heone.asp>

I've finally been making it back to the library. I finished Affaire Royale by Nora Roberts. This was an earlier book of hers, circa 1986, and not as polished as her most recent stuff. Still I enjoyed the story of the princess who lost her memory and fell in love with her bodyguard.

Virgin by Robin Maxwell is about quite another kind of princess. It's a fictionalized account of the adolescent Elizabeth I in the Tudor court of the 1500's. Based on fact, she is pursued by the very married and ambitious Lord High Admiral, Thomas Seymour. Elizabeth has to manage to keep from losing her head, literally rather than figuratively, in an environment filled with politics and guile. It must have taken all of her considerable wits to live long enough to ascend the throne. A hefty dose of history for those of us who may enjoy the Tudor period.

Wildest Dreams by Jennifer Blake is a perfectly lush romance. It provides twice as much love for our imaginations because the book tells the two romantic stories of the heroine, Jolette, AND her grandmother, Violet as they search for a rare perfume formula through two different eras.

I really enjoy books by Jo Beverley, but I seem to have a knack for picking books that continue the stories of her past characters. I always have to work my way past the first chapter or two to understand the main characters. Devilish was not an exception. Once I got oriented I enjoyed the way Beverley puts her plots together and draws her characters.

I've been working on Jack, an irreverent biography of JFK, by Geoffrey Perret. Also I have another Jennifer Blake book waiting for me. I feel so fortunate with all of these books waiting in the house.

Sue, enjoy your Roberts trilogy. GinnyAnn, I loved the illustrations from the romantic novels. Marjorie, I hope you enjoy Bee Season.

I wish the joys of the holiday season to all. Happy Hanukkah! Merry Christmas! Bon Noel!

Harriet

The Elizabethan Renaissance is one of my favorite time periods! There are many good romances set in this time period. You might want to check my home page. I have a page of Elizabethan fiction books. I also have a page started of romance books recommended here and at the ThirdAge site.

GinnyAnn, I looked at your home page.

That's a real treasure trove of Elizabethan books and history. I enjoy reading about that period a lot also. As a matter of fact I loved looking at your whole home page and your photos. I loved seeing your picture and I think you have such a lovely smile. The photos of your home area are knock-outs. What part of the country produces that gorgeous scenery?

I have a few Elizabethan books at home that I'm going to try to find again. Since my wall of books looks something like yours, and I don't categorize them, I might have to hunt a bit. Anyway, thanks to you I got turned on to my Mary Luke books again and it'll be worth the effort to try to find them. I hope I succeed because I'd love to reread them. One of them has the identical portrait of young Elizabeth on the cover that you have on your home page.

Harriet

GINNY ANN: That is quite a web site you have. Lots of information. Fun to look at all the photos. Thanks for sharing.

Hi HARRIET.

The page is a labor of love.

GinnyAnn: I just tried to post the following message in one of your discussions at ThirdAge. After waiting 3 minutes for it to post, I copied the message and will place it here. The slow loading time at TA is one of the reasons I spend most of my time here at SeniorNet.

"Hi GinnyAnn and Faith: BookTalk was a good discussion when I could find the book. I started having problems getting into ThirdAge about the time they changed to this green background. I still have problems at times, most of the discussions are very slow to load and I often get the dreaded "this page cannot be found" message.

And, of course, I've been participating in the Romance Discussion at SeniorNet and other book discussions when they interest me. GinnyAnn if you do resurrect BookTalk, please put a notice in Marjorie's Romance discussion where I will be sure to see it.

SeniorNet is just so much easier to navigate. I almost never have trouble getting in there. Sue"

I would like to join this discussion group. It will be my first time joining this type of group. I did read along on the "Bee Season" and found it very interesting and entertaining. Although, a lot of it was over my head and out of my experience. I'm thinking a romance novel will be a little easier to "jump in" on. Anyway, will be going to the bookstore to pick up a copy.

See you all later or somewhere in Senior Net.

Gail/62/VT

GAIL: We will be delighted to have you. I found the book very engrossing. I am reading Bee Season right now and they are two very different books.

I am finishing up Barbara Delinsky's A Womans Place I enjoyed it very much. I sure must have a read it so fast.

I also spend more time here at SeniorNet.com than at Thirdage.com. This Romance Discussion is one of my favorite places on-line! The Book Exchange here has helped me find books at the cost of mailing and I get to pass on books that I have read.

Right now I am reading a oldie but goodie by Sandra Brown titled Bittersweet Rain Did I tell everyone about two great books that I recently read.

Darkling I Listen by Katherine Sutcliffe I gave this 5*

Bodyguard by Suzanne Brockman. I gave this 4 1/2*
Both were library books.

GinnyAnn: I love this Romance Book Discussion, too. We get tips on exciting reads and don't get bogged down in "over my head" semantics.

Judy, I enjoyed Delinsky's A Woman's Place, too.

Gail Norman: Before Marjorie started this generic discussion, I tried a few of the book discussions here, but they were often over my head. I love to read, but I hate reading a few pages every week and dragging it out. If the book is good, I want to find out what happens next. When we discuss one Romance novel a month, like we plan to do soon, everyone tells what they like or dislike about the plot, characters, or setting, and we don't take forever to do it. It makes me think of the book in a different way, but it doesn't take the fun out of it.

Marjorie is a great discussion leader. She is always positive and prompt in her responses to our ideas. I think you'll enjoy this group. Sue

I sure agree with you. Reading and discussing the whole book is better than page by page. Like you said, if it is good I hate to put it down. We are of like mind Dear Friend!

JUDY: I still have A Woman's Place in my pile of books to be read. I hope to get to it soon.

Thank you GINNY ANN and SUE for your kind words about this Romance Books discussion. You both help to make it a great place to come.

Seems to me I am getting the message that On Mystic Lake is not to be read and discussed only a few pages at a time. I remember we did that with one book that worked beautifully and the next one it didn't work at all. This book is definitely one that has a story that I didn't want to put down until I finished.

Marjorie

I keep forgetting to look for On Mystic Lake when we are out as we have had so much else to do. When are we starting again? I'll try to remember to look at my to do list when I'm out. Sue

The discussion starts Feb. 1. You have time to get the book SUE. You don't have to do it in all the rush of shopping this time of the year.

Hi: Glad to hear I am not alone on the book discussion thing, they were just too much for me. For once in my life, I would have to say I could not "hold my own" in those discussions. I just read all the comments, found them intriguing and sometimes could not understand what the heck they were talking about. Anyway, as I said, I will try this group and see how it goes.

I called the local book store and they haveMystic Lake in paperback for only $6.95. They also have it at the library. Apparently it is 2-3 years old. Somehow I missed it when it came around back then.

SASHA, where do you live?? You mentioned you have friends in Elmore, it sounded like you might live in Vermont also.

Goodnight to all. Gail 62/VT

Hi Marjorie and all,

The holidays have certainly been a busy time, and they aren't over yet!! Anyway, GinnyAnn, I am glad to know how you felt about Darkling I Listen by Sutcliffe. I wanted to read that one, but now, with a recommendation I really want to read it.

I hope everyone will have a wonderful weekend.

HATS

Rejar by Dara Joy. It is a fun romp. Joy has written a book that comes before it and one that follows it. However, this is the one I had so I started with it. It has me looking up 'Familiars.'

I was able to start one of my Christmas gift books on Thursday, so I started Nora Roberts' Heaven and Earth. It is a terrific read. Plenty of romance with a little mayhem thrown in. This is the second book in the Sisters Island trilogy. I can hardly wait for the final book, Face the Fire, to come out. There was a preview at the end of Heaven and Earth and it looks like it'll be a winner.

Last night I started another Roberts' novel, Midnight Bayou. It has a murder in the prologue and probably ghosts in the first couple of chapters. It looks like I'm really going to enjoy it, too. Sue

Sue, I really want to read Heaven and Earth. First, I have to read Heart of the Sea. It is the third book in that other series, Jewels of the Sun and Tears of the Moon. I want to read Midnight Bayou too. I've not read The Villa either, but I hear it's good. I just love Nora Roberts.

I'm now looking for The Villa, Hats. Somehow, I'd missed that one--is it only in hardback? Sue

is my favorite Romance author! The Villa is a very good read. I have not seen it in paperback yet, but it should be out soon. I have her first one of the Island series, but don't want to start it until I have all three! One of Nora's talents as a writer is the variety of settings and moods she creates.

I started Julie Garwood's Ransom and discovered that I may have read it before. Has anyone else had this happen?

Hi, GinnyAnn: This happens to me every now and then. I take a notebook to the used book store with a list of books I've read so I won't buy them again. However, I like Julie Garwood's books, have most of them, and every now and then read them again, deliberately. It depends on my mood. Sometimes I just get a "craving" for a particular author's style and I'll reread everything I have. This happens most often when I'm feeling particularly stressed. It's sort of like eating comfort foods, mine is popcorn! Sue

Sue, I agree with GinnyAnn. I don't think The Villa is in paperback yet, but I think there is a really cheap copy being offered on half.com.

GinnyAnn, is The Villa part of a series? I have never heard of the Island Series. Please tell more.

HATS

stands on its own. The 'Island' series is Nora's latest trilogy. Here is a link where you can learn much more about her and her work.

http://www.noraroberts.com/

Thanks for the link, GinnyAnn.

HATS

There are quite a few romances listed in the Book Exchange. Some of them are on the older lists. There are several that have been added recently for all of you who are interested in receiving books for just the cost of postage.

Happy new year everyone. Once I get settled in our new home I will be listing books on the book exchange. I have quite a few to list.

Happy New Year GAILIE. I will watch for your list of books.

Pretty soon I will start rereading On Mystic Lake for the discussion that will be starting Feb. 1. Time is catching up to me.

I sure hope 2002 is a great year for all of us.

Marjorie

I have been on another Romance Reading Marathon. lol I will get back to you with the names of the books.

I currently have a Delinsky book to read but haven't gotten started yet. The title is A Woman Betrayed. Anyone read it?

I am also listening to a book on tape while I drive. That title is On A Distant Shore (I think anyway) by Sarah Donati. It is the second book of a trilolgy. I read the first one a year or so ago. It was Into the Wilderness. I enjoyed it. It is a long book and not a fast read as there is a lot to digest as you read but it is interesting. I would classify it as Historical Romance with some intrigue in it. The second book is good too, but I think the first was better.

Northern Joan

Hi All,

Northern Joan, I enjoyed Into the Wilderness, and at some time in the future, I hope to start the sequel, On a Distant Shore. I think these are good historical romances.

HATS

A Very Happy, Healthy New Year To All!

I finished Barbara Delinsky's Woman Next Door and enjoyed it a lot.

Recently I read Jennifer Blake's Wildest Dreams. and that set me off on a Jennifer Blake marathon. I've been borrowing whichever of her books that I can find in my my local library. I'm currently working on Royal Seduction, and I have two of her other books: Prisoner of Desire, and Arrow To The Heart waiting for their turn.

I also read On Mystic Lake by Kristin Hannah and thought it was just wonderful.

Harriet

Hi Harriet,

I would love to read two of the books you mentioned: Wildest Dreams and The Woman Next Door. Thanks for two new titles.

is Cherry Adair. Her Hide and Seek is a very 'hot' story. Has anyone else read any of her books? It is a Ballantine Ivy Book.

Three of my most recent reads include Passion in the First Degree by Carla Cassidy; Special Assignment:Baby by Debra Webb; Licensed To Marry by Charlotte Douglas. They are all Harlequin Intrigue novels. The last two are the middle reads of the Montana Confidential series. If I could do it over, I would read them all in order, but didn't realize until I got into them that they all carry the same mystery story thread that comes to a conclusion in the 4th book. I hope it is a December book that is still either avaiable at the stores or library!

GAJ: I recently finished a series by Allison Leigh that I started in the middle before I realized it was a series. The books are all Silhouette Special Edition. The last 4 books in the series all talk about the Men of the Double C Ranch. The first one doesn't say anything about that and was very difficult to find. The stories are about 5 brothers and their father. The ranch belongs to the father and was turned over to one of the brothers. Eventually all of them "return" to the ranch. 4 of the brothers had left the ranch and done some undercover work before coming back. I have put some of the series I have on the Book Exchange only 1 out of 4 series have been requested. If anyone wants this series for the cost of postage, let me know and I will count it for the Book Exchange.

Thanks for the offer! Today I went to Target and bought the last book of the series. The library didn't have the first one. It is titled Someone to Protect Her by Patricia Rosemoor. Half.com has some copies. However, I am thinking of getting it from Harlequin on line. I have already gotten two free books because I signed up for their newsletter and became a memeber.

Has anyone joined Harlequin or the Rhaspody book club?

Hi, Everyone: I was saving my new Diana Gabaldon for our trips to the Kirlin Cancer Clinic up in Birmingham, but I lost my will power and started it today. It looks like The Fiery Cross is going to live up to the first four books in the Voyager series. Claire has reunited (book 4) with Jamie, Brianna and Roger time traveled to meet them, and book 5 opens with Bree and Roger about to marry at a Highland gathering in the North Carolina mountains. The time is just prior to the Revolutionary War, so I know that will be a factor. I love these books! Sue

Drums of Autumn for our Flordia vacation. I think I will be able to hold out because I have so many books screaming at me to read them first. lol Gabaldon sure can write a 'good read'.

I just finished a book by a writer that I never heard of before and I really, really enjoyed it. If someone asked me to rate the book and author, I would certainly give them my highest praise plus a few extra kudos. It's a historical novel with all the fun of costumes and regency flavor, yet the characters have depth and tenderness. I couldn't put it down and read it in one sitting.

Have any of you ever read anything by Mary Balogh? She's a new treasure to me. The book is No Man's Mistress. I was so taken with Mary Balogh that I looked up her website and found a few enjoyable excerpts from other of her books. If any of you are interested, the address is:

http://marybalogh.com/

Sue, I love Diana Gabaldon also, and I thank you for recommending her last year. Please tell us what you think when you finish Fiery Cross.

Hi Marjorie and everyone.

Harriet

What wonderful suggestions from everyone here.

I tried listening to Diana Gabaldon's series, including Drums of August, and I found them too stimulating for me to listen to at bedtime. I was only listening to books on tape before falling to sleep. From everything everyone is saying, I had better try to read the books themselves. Does anyone know the titles of the Voyager series in order?

I will go look for Mary Balogh and Patricia Rosemoor on half.com.

I've been watching comedies from the video store with Bob the past couple of days. We had 2 days of snow and cold, so we went to the video store with the gift certificates he received for Christmas. Consequently, I haven't done much reading of The Fiery Cross. The part I have read is intriguing as all of this series is, so I'm sure I'll really get into it when I have the time. We haven't taken our Christmas tree down, either, so that job needs to be tackled before serious reading sets in. Sue

Order of the books: Outlander
Dragonfly In Amber
Voyager

Drums of Autumn
There is also a book that has the plot summeries and other fun info from the books. It is titles The Outlandish Companion and was written by Gabaldon.

Have you seen The Outlandish Companion, GinnyAnn. It sounds interesting in Amazon.com's blurb. Sue

Yes. I ended up buying it! A girlfriend has lent me the series books. Now I can look up something up from a previous book without having to ask her for the books again. It is a large hardback book of 577 pages.

Thanks, GINNY ANN, for the order of the Gabaldon series.

I would love to join the discussion group on Karen Robards book "On Mystic Lake." I read it awhile ago, but to join the discussion group I would have to reread it again. But I just finished a book by her titled "This Side of Heaven" which was a good read. The novel takes place in a Connecticut Colony where the heroine (I think I need a dictionary at my computer) running away from England steps on our shores and meets up with Pilgrims, warring Indians, howling wolves and a boisterous household of men and boys. I enjoyed it very much.

I have been keeping a log on the authors and the books I have read along with a short synopsis of each book. It helps when I go to the library, because I seem to be drawn to the books I have already read.

APPLE PIE: We would be delighted to have you join our discussion for On Mystic Lake. The author of the book we are discussing is Kristin Hannah. Did Karen Robards also write a book by the same title? I have seen duplicate titles for some books I have read. I am rereading the book right now because I first read it in November and must refresh my memory.

Hi: I just wanted to say that I listed some Romance books on the Book Exchange that I got off there sometime ago...maybe someone new would be interested in them????? Just send me an email, click on my name on the site. Thanx

I have already jumped on your offer! You will be getting my e-mail soon as I have already sent it off.

Did I tell everyone about The Damaron Mark: The Sinner by Fayrene Preston? I finished it yesterday. It was a good read that I found at the library. There are so many good romance authors! It seems I am always adding a new one to look for.

Today I order Romantic Times magazine. I figure if I don't renew my subscriptions to the many craft magazines I get, I can afford it. lol It is hard ripping up the renewal forms, but I read so much lately, I don't have time for that many crafts anymore. It should start with the March issue. YES!!!! The magazine is two months ahead of the on-line reviews and has ads from publishers. The ads are fun and give me a fast clue to some of new books.

I had a chance to go to my favorite used book store today. I was able to get a copy of Kristin Hannah's On Mystic Lake, so I'm all set for the February discussion.

I've finished part one of The Fiery Cross. I'm enjoying the book as I re-learn the characters from the other books and catching up on the background. I think I probably need The Outlandish Companion, especially for the Gaelic words. I've been taking the slow road on this one--just too much to do here at home recently. Sue

SUE: I am delighted you were able to get the book for the February discussion. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

Boy I thought I was in big trouble. Went to my book store yesterday and got On Mystic Lake and another book of hers called Angel Falls and nearly had a break down when I thought I had the wrong author.hehe I got about six books of that kind to mix in the with mysteries that Candi sends down to me, she is became a real mystery fan when all we used to read was romances.

Marjorie are we supposed to have read On Mystic Lake before Feb 1 or are we all reading it togeather?

JUDY: HARRIET and I have both read the entire book already. I would like to have people start reading before Feb. 1 and my experience was that I didn't want to put the book down once I started it. What I hope to do this time is ask questions that will focus on the first part of the story at the beginning so that if some people haven't read the entire book they won't be left out. That way if we focus on something specific maybe we can accomodate people who want to read as we go along as well as those who want to read the whole book. I guess I should post something in the On Mystic Lake discussion about this.

After reading On Mystic Lake, I read the following books by Kristin Hannah. I enjoyed them all and they were each very different.

The Enchantment, A Handful of Heaven, Home Again, If You Believe, Once in Every Life, Waiting for the Moon, and When Lightning Strikes

I have put a post in the On Mystic Lake discussion to reflect what I said about about reading the book.

Boy, am I confused or what. I have read On Mystic Lake by Kristin Hannah. But Karen Robards is another of the authors I like to read. I'll just blame it on the Holiday Season just past.

APPLEPIE: Is there a particular book by Karen Robards that you would recommend I look for? I haven't read anything of hers yet. We all have "senior moments" from time to time. Haven't you noticed? I was just looking the information you wrote about yourself. Thanks for being so complete. What part of the country do you live in? I am in San Jose, California.

Marjorie

I picked up On Mystic Lake by Kristin Hannah and am reading it. Where is the discussion on it?

Northern Joan

NORTHERN JOAN: The discussion for On Mystic Lake is HERE (under "Check Here for our Coming Individual Book Discussions). It will not be open for posting until February 1 that is why we are talking about getting the book in this discussion now. Glad to have you join us.

I finished The Fiery Cross by Diana Gabaldon. I can highly recommend it to Gabaldon fans and those who haven't yet read her Outlander series. However, I think this new one is more enjoyable if you have read the first 4 in the series. There are references in the book to characters who appeared in the other books and although you could read it without problems, I think it's more fun to know what happened earlier.

Judy, when I got On Mystic Lake at my used bookstore, I also bought Angel Falls and I intend to start it tonight.

Marjorie, Kristin Hannah must be a pretty good author if you went on to all those other books by her.

BTW, I picked up a Romantic Times at the pharmacy today. There was an article there by Barbara Delinsky. She has had breast cancer and has recently written a non-fiction book with contributions by BC survivors. I forget the title, but will look it up and post it here. Sue

I just mailed GINNY ANN 11 paperback books for the cost of postage -- and postage was $3.58! Visit the Book Exchange everyone. Lots of books there listed in the header and in the links.

Hi Marjorie. Once I read a book that I have enjoyed, I will look for any book or books by that author at our local library and read them. I have always enjoyed reading novels, but in the past there were times when I got tired or just could not find the time, so I would just take a breather. But I have had the longest spurt of reading that has been ongoing for the past couple of years. I am always reading a novel, even sometimes foregoing the daily newspaper such as the world situation is today.

Karen Robards has written many books that I have enjoyed. The titles are Paradise, The Midnight Hour, and Nobody's Angel. I keep a list of all the books I have read by author and title, and sometimes a short synopsis of each book just to jog my memory. I am always happy when I have selected a book from the library by an author I have never read. I am very glad for this roundtable discussion.

I am from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. "GO STEELERS." I retired as of 12/31/01 and have enjoyed every minute of it. I am married and this past year my husband had some health problems leading to kidney dialysis, and he has been tolerating it well. My husband is not bedridden, but is mobile and we try to do the things we did before dyalisis, but now we do them just a little slower. My husband is a member of Mensa, and the Intertel and we attend their functions. And I am the lady who likes to bake applepie.

APPLEPIE: That was a wonderful description of yourself. A good introduction. I like to read and for at least a year have been reading almost only romances. I also enjoy the computer, needlepoint, some TV, jigsaw puzzles, and playing solitare. Some days I actually do a little of each but usually I can't manage that. It seems I have slowed down too. I retired in 1996 and we moved to a new house at that time. (new to us) I will go look for Karen Robards.

GINNY ANN: You like Sandra Brown and it seems to me you would like Karen Robards. I was checking Karen Robards on Barnes & Noble and she writes romantic suspense/romantic thrillers. I think I will pass on her books. Right now I don't want another author of suspense.

APPLEPIE: If I am correct about Karen Robards, you would like Sandra Brown. There are some books by Sandra Brown in the Book Exchange that you can request just for the Media Mail postage.

Books Read Data Base to see if I have read any books by Karen Robards. . The name is very familiar to me. Of course Windows is telling me it is in use already and its NOT.
Right now I am reading Ghost of a Chance by Jayne Ann Krentz. It is a fun read.

GinnyAnn, is that a new one by Krentz? I don't remember that title, but I probably have it if it's older.

I did finish Kristin Hannah's Angel Falls and it's a winner. I really enjoyed it and am looking forward to On Mystic Lake. Her topics/themes seem similar to the kind Barbara Delinsky uses.

After Angel Falls, I read The Villa by Nora Roberts. I'm glad I found it at the library. It was a good read, but not as good as her new Midnight Bayou. Maybe because Bayou was set in Louisiana and Villa was set in the California and Italian wine country. I love the New Orleans area and am more familiar with it. I've lived in California and once went to a winery near San Francisco, but I've never been to Italy. I'd love to go there, though. Both are mystery/suspense/romance combos. Sue

I just finished The Soft Touch by Betina Krahn. She is a new author to me and I enjoyed the book a lot. It is set in 1887 and the hero want to build a railroad in Montana. The heroine a wealthy young woman living in Baltimore. I am going to look for more books by Betina Krahn.

Ghost of a Chance by Jayne Ann Krentz is ©1984 I am going to put it on the Book Exchange.

Betina Krahn is a new author for me. Kristin Hannah is also new to me.

The Villa was another light, but fun read. A review of Midnight Bayou made it sound like a good read. With your review, Sue, it sounds like a very good read.
:GinnyAnn:

Finished Barbara Delinsky book Suddenly and it was a fun book and I enjoyed reading it. I think it was out in 1994.

Judy, I just bought Suddenly at my used book store last week. I'm looking forward to reading it after I finish Fault Lines by Anne Rivers Siddon and After the Fire by Belva Plain. I got them from the library and need to finish them. I'll probably finish Fault Lines tonight or tomorrow. After I started reading it, I began to recognize it. I think I've read it already, but I don't remember much of the plot. I need to start a new data base with books I've read. The one I keep is of books I've purchased so I won't buy them again. Sue

We have finally completed the move into our new home. Still lots of boxes around. I hope this is the last move at least for a long time. I'm not so young anymore and this was really very difficult to contend with. I've missed all of you and hope to get back into the swing of things soon.

Hi, Gailie. I'd forgotten you were moving and wondered why you hadn't been here lately. Welcome back. I know you're glad the moving is over. We moved so much during our Navy years and I hated each and every move. Now, however, I'd like to move into a smaller home within walking distance of stores, medical facilities, and the beach. I just don't want to do the physical job of getting rid of stuff, making decisions, etc! Sue

P.S. GinnyAnn, I've requested several of your books in Book Exchange and sent you an e-mail.

Hi Sue, I will be packing up the books this week. They are all very good reads.
Welcome back Gailie.
Happy reading everyone! :GinnyAnn:

Welcome back GAILIE. I don't like moving either. My last move was when PURPLE SAGE and I bought this house 4 years ago and moved here. That wasn't easy but since this house is bigger than where we were before, it could have been worse. I am sure that from here (far, far in the future, I hope) a move would be to something smaller. Since this house is all filled up already that will be very difficult. I hate deciding what to keep just like SUE.

I hope to be able to join you all in the upcoming book discussion On Mystic Lake. Barnes & Noble had the book on back order. I will check out the library, but this is such a small town I doubt that they will have it. I'll keep looking. Yes I am glad to be back and hope we never have to move again. It really is a nightmare. My husband and I are still friends. Didn't mind it when I was younger. What a difference a few years make. LOL.

GAILIE: I hope your library gets the book soon. If not, perhaps you would like to lurk in the On Mystic Lake discussion anyway. I congratulate you that you and your husband are still friends after a move. Moving is a real strain on a relationship.

I've been reading a whole bunch of books by Mary Balogh. I'd never heard of Balogh before and I was pleasantly surprised when I borrowed her No Man's Mistress from my library's current best seller section.

It was such a fun read that I went back and borrowed all of her other books that I could find. Most of them turned out to be Regency soft cover romances and so far I've enjoyed them all. They've been fun reads and none have been a disappointment so far.

I finished More Than A Mistress, The Ideal Wife, The Last Waltz and The Christmas Bride. I'm looking forward to reading three more of her soft cover historicals also. They are Truly, One Night For Love and Heartless.

I feel kind of greedy because I cleaned my local library out of all the Mary Balogh books that I could find on their shelves, but I'm having SUCH a good time. She writes lovely, touching so-romantic stories and I'm always sorry to see each book end.

Hi to all of you. Looking forward to being together with everyone in the Mystic Lake discussion.

Harriet

Thanks for the tip on Mary Balogh, Harriet. I'm not familiar with her books, either. I'll be on the lookout for some. Sue

Thanks Marjorie for suggesting that I read Sandra Brown. I am familiar with her and have read many of her books and have always enjoyed them. Another author that I like is Iris Johansen. She writes romantic adventure novels that are fast paced with murder and suspense. Some of the titles that she has written are "The Face of Deception" -- "The Ugly Duckling" -- and "Long After Midnight." Our local library is small and sometimes I am not able to find books by the authors I like. But one thing I do, if I am not enjoying a book I am reading, I do not struggle through trying to read it. I just go on to something else.

GO STEELERS!!!

APPLEPIE: In addition, to using our Book Exchange and getting a book for the cost of postage, there are a number of ways I have found to buy a book for less than retail cost. One way to find a book is by going to www.ebay.com or www.half.com. eBay is an auction site and you can decide what you are willing to pay for something. You may get the item for less that your top price. half.com has books (and videos, etc.) for less than retail. After you search for a book, you will get a list of all the people who have it for sale and what the condition and price is. Then you can decide if you are willing to pay that. Another way to find a book is to go to the heading and click on the link that says "Find/buy any Romance." I have found particular books that way sometimes. Then there are the used bookstores and Friends of the Library sales as other sources.

Sometimes I like just picking up a book that I wasn't looking for. Frequently I am pleasantly surprised.

I just bought On Mystic Lake from half.com, hopefully it will get here in time for the discussion.

I finished Barbara Delinsky's Suddenly about 1;30 last night. I couldn't put it down. Tonight I'm about half way through her The Passions of Chelsea Kane. Delinsky certainly knows how to write intriguing stories. Her characters, heroines anyway, are very appealing. Some of the antagonists really make you love to hate them, though. Sue

GAILIE: Unless it is a problem for you to start a discussion before you have the book, I feel sure that you will have it before the discussion is too far along. I have had pretty good luck with half.com provided the seller mails the book promptly. Sometimes that is not the case. On the other hand, I seem to remember receiving one book in about 3 days which I thought was impossible. Good luck.

SUE: I agree with you about Delinsky's antagonists. Lots to hate with most of them. I have to go look for more Delinsky.

I finished The Passions of Chelsea Kane late last night. It was a very satisfying read. Towards the end it began to sound familiar, but I checked my book list (of books bought) and didn't have it there. Maybe I read it from the library. I'm saving On Mystic Lake for Monday and Tuesday when we'll be sitting around at UAB for Bob's tests, so I need to find something for today and tomorrow. I may read one of Bob's mysteries. He finished one the other day that he thought I'd like. Tomorrow, I'll spend a lot of the afternoon with the newspaper, but I'll still need something for the evening. Sue

SUE: I hope Bob's tests go well next week. I think you will find yourself engrossed in On Mystic Lake when you are waiting for him.

Thanks for the good wishes, Marjorie. I'm looking forward to entertaining myself with Mystic Lake. Sue

I've started reading Mystic Lake, can't wait for the discussion to begin. I am enjoying this book immensely.

GAILIE: I am just delighted you are enjoying On Mystic Lake. I really think Kristin Hannah is a delightful author. The discussion will be open for posting tomorrow (actually by 9pm PST tonight).

On Mystic Lake is ready for posting.

GAIL NORMA: I tried to send you an email to welcome you to On Mystic Lake and the email was returned. I sent it to: standandgail@pshift.com Are you having a problem with your email? Does your address need to be fixed?

I sent an email to everyone who mentioned they wanted to join the discussion. If you did not post that you wanted to join the discussion, you are more than welcome to find us on the main Books & Literature page or just click HERE.

This discussion will remain open for discussion while the discussion of On Mystic Lake takes place.

Have a great day everyone.

Marjorie

Sorry about the e-mail address, I don't know if I gave it incorrectly but anyway, here it is again with out the "d" after stan.

stanandgail@pshift.com

Gail/VT

GAIL: Thanks for the email correction. If you go to the Preferences button, you can fix your email address so that is shows up correctly when someone clicks on your name. After you click on Preferences, you will see one item called "email settings." When you fix that you need to go down to the bottom of the page (it may be a long way) and click on OK to make the change.

I have been enjoying Muriel Jensen's books. They are Harlequin Romances. I recently read on that was part of a series about 3 brothers and twins that belong to one of the brothers but no one knows which one. As I was reading the book it seemed like the story was similar to another series I read. 3 brother, a child or children who belonged to one of them, a big house and needed fixing up.

It seemed like it was a different house and I thought I probably had already read this book and was just visualizing it differently. However, I used the link in the heading (find/buy any romance) and was able to discover that they were two different series. I had given away the other series but, using the link, I was able to find a description of the story in the first series and they were not the same at all. I was concerned that the original books had just been renamed and published again. Pretty silly of me.

Today I was at the library with Ray. I almost got out of there without buying some of the romance brown bags. The Friend's of the Library bundle books in lunch bags, usually about 5 or 6 books per bag @ $.25 per bag Well Ray left me alone just before we went out the door and I weent right over to the 'used book shelf' and looked to see what they had avaiable. Well I found a hardback for Ray and 5 bags of books for myself. lol Now, I am surrounded by romance books!

I have truly enjoyed the discussion on the romance novel On Mystic Lake. Hope we have more coming up soon and that more senior netters participate. It really is fun to hear everyone's views and to see how everyone perceives the novel.

SUE's husband, Bob, had been fighting a recurrrence of colon cancer and was in an experimental chemo study. He passed away on Monday. Her email address is: sprngcrk@ustconline.net.

The Outlaw Bride by Sandra Chastain. It was a fune read. It is a library book.

Has this ever happened to you? I was reading a Cherry Adair book -- when I turned to look at the next page, Idiscovered it had been ripped out of the book. In fact 2 pages were missing. so I checked the rest of the book and discovered that someone had ripped out the love scenes. It is a library book! How can people be so selfish as to tear stuff from library books?

GINNY ANN: I can't imagine anyone tearing out pages from a library book. I wonder -- is that better or worse than taking the whole book? What a terrible experience for the person who wants to read the book after it has been destroyed like that. I don't remember that happening to me. I have had lots of book that were not well edited and, possibly, even one or two with sentences or words missing but never pages. Yuk!

I threw a Library book in the trash by mistake the other day.

I was throwing away some old and yellowed paperbacks(I hate to read them when they are like that)and by mistake put the one I was reading at the time(it was "Ghost of a Chance" by Jayne Ann Krentz) in the trash too. I didn't discover my mistake until after the trash had been carried off.

So, I went in to the Library, confessed what I had done, and prepared to pay for the book. At the time they could not tell me the cost. When I went back again later, they said they were just going to mark it off, because it was old and yellow. They had two more copies, so I just checked out another one, so I could finish reading it. Nice folks at our Library!!!

Lou

LOU: How nice that you were so honest about what happened to the library book. Because they treated you so well I imagine you will use the library even more than you do now. Do you buy romance fiction or just get it at the library?

Marjorie:

I just started reading again the last couple years. About two years ago, my sister, who is an avid reader of detective, murder, mystery, books, got me hooked on reading again. She keeps me supplied with more books than I will ever read, and she gets these mostly from Library Sales, yard sales, etc.

I do most of my reading late at night into early morning, after I finish catching up on what is going on at Seniornet on the computer. I especially keep up with all the Computer Discussions.

I started looking for "lighter" reading, and stumbled onto "Romance Books" here. I get my list of books to read from here, and since I can't afford to buy them new, I take my list and go to our local Library. Before I go, I visit their web site to see if the books on my list are available,,,,,,,,that makes it much quicker.

Thank you for asking.

Lou

I have subscribed to Romantic Times magazine and the first issue arrived today! I have already poured over it, os course. I had substituted today at a local school, and my husband (who had the day off) told me it came today. Now if I see a new book being promoted at one of my favorite publishers, I can check it out before buying it or even reserving it from the library.

GINNY ANN: What does Romantic Times have besides reviews of new books? Are there articles about authors?

LOU: I think the on-line library catalogs are great. I am glad you found us here and use our recommendations.

Has reviews of the new books, a listing of books that are being reissued, articles by authors, book news, ads from publishers (Beautiful pictures of the covers), tips for writing a romance and an article of interest to readers. This month they have A test to see "What Kind of Amateur Sleuth Are You?"

I subscribed because I kept making lists of suggestions from each magazine I borrowed from the library. No more lists-- I can highlight the titles! Now I can have the magazine a month sooner than the library will lend it out. The web site is two months behind in printing up the book reviews.

As a volunteer at our main library, several times I have overheard the librarians talk about pages ripped out of books. Once it was the entire case in several law books. Also, twice I have gotten old magazines that were bound into books and the article I was looking for was ripped out. That is all bad enough, but duplicate copies of newspapers are given to the genealogical society so they can have the obituaries for their files (mostly out of town papers). Sometimes the obits are ripped out. Why can't they just make a copy for themselves? Only costs a dime. Do they think they are the only ones who read the obits or are interested in that person?

I had a ripped book problem only once at the library. After reading the book to the end, I discovered that the final chapter had been ripped out. I never did find out the ending.

Very frustrating!

I just can't understand people who would do that.

Harriet

..of a library book to me is stealing. The other thing I can't understand that people write, underline and fold over pages. They act as if they owned the book. Selfish.

How about people who don't use a bookmark? Turn it over and lay it down. I can remember way back in grade school, a librarian came to our class (could it have been National Book Week?) and showed us how to open a new book. Work front and then back, press the cover down with a finger, take a few pages and press them down too (along the binding) keep alternating front and back and continue til you reach the middle. It is so easy to make a bookmark out of any heavy paper. I usually have a stack of them on hand and write the date the book was published, # of pages and when I started reading it. Also will jot down any words I don't know and the page so I can go back and understand the sentence.

does anyone like Harlequin books? I like the Intrigue series. there is a bit of every thing in them. I also like Historical romance. It seems like the characters in them are real people. Has anyone read books by Aimee and David Thurlo? They write mostly about the Native Americans. I just like to relax with a good book, that is the way I travel now.

Hi, glor31. I love historical novels also. I'm not familiar with the Harlequin Intrigue series, but I'll be sure to keep an eye out for them now that you've alerted me. My current favorite historical novelist is Mary Balogh. I love her easy-flowing writing and interesting plot lines.

Last night I was watching the History Channel on TV. They ran a promo that there would be a program on Elizabeth I of England on the evening of Feb. 26.

I don't know if you get the History Channel, Ginny Ann, but I thought I would share that news with you and anyone else who enjoys information about the Tudor era. Now, all I have to do is remember to tune in myself. I wish I had a dollar for each time I was attracted to a show through advance advertising and then completely forgot to set the VCR while out of the house.

Harriet

Welcome GLOR31. I read Harlequin romances a lot. I like the Intrigue series also. I also enjoy some of the shorter series -- 2, 3, or 4 about the same cast of characters. I also like Silhouette Special Edition. The books are a little more "substantial" than the regular Silhouette/Harlequin romances that fit so easily in my purse. I am not as interested in the Historical Romances, although I read them from time to time.

I just finished an oldie, but goodie. Lady's Choice by Jayne Ann Krentz. I liked it very much.

Harriet

HARRIET: I haven't read that particular Krentz' book. How old is it?

I checked the date of publication a few days ago, Marjorie. It dates back to the 1980's. I don't remember if it was 1984 or 1989, but one of those is accurate.

Harriet

I love them! In fact I have purchased some of them. I have offered some of them at the Book Exchange and they have found new homes. Harper Allen and Debra Webb are two of the better Intrigue authors.

Cherry Adair writes very good romantic suspense novels. Her publisher is Ivy Books. It is one of hers that I am waiting to finish because someone removed many of its pages from the library book copy I was enjoying.

Thanks Harriet for the heads up on the Elizabeth 1.

In Romance Novels, I guess I would have to say that I prefer Contemporary Novels. I do love Jayne Ann Krentz books, have read many of them. Does she have a new one out called "Smoke In Mirrors" or something. I had written that name down on a note in my purse and I believe I copied it from "Best Sellers" in a book store.

I would very much appreciate it if some of you in this forum would post your favorite contemporary authors names so I can look for their books? It has been many years since I have read Romance novels and I am enjoying them very much. I read late at night before going to sleep don't wish to read anything "heavy".

Thanks for your reply. Lou

Some authrors: Nora Roberts, Sandra Brown,Sandra Chastain, Barbara Delinsky

GAG:

Thanks Ginny, those are among my favorites and have read many of their books. Let me know if you have any others. This is where I get my names to make out my library list.

Lou

Judy Blume,Barbara Taylor Bradford, Susan Isaacs, Fern Michaels, Anna Quindlen, Carol Rivers, Katherine Stone, Anne Stuart,

LOU: I just finished Suddenly by Barbara Delinsky and was delighted with that book. Fly Away Home by Kimberly Cates is great. Some of her books are historical and some are not. I like Julie Garwood a lot. Most of her books are historical but Saving Grace is not and was very good. Debbie Macomber is a great author. Some of her books are sent in the early West but not all.

THANKS GINNY ANN AND MARJORIE, Those will keep me busy for quite awhile. I just finished Julie Garwood's "The Bride", and have read her "For The Roses". Liked them both. I have read Barbara Delinsky as well, liked her, and have made a list of the others that I am unfamiliar with, and look forward to reading them. Thank you so much. Lou

Marjorie I just read Suddenly a short time ago and thought it was very good.

I just finished Jill Marie Landis BLUE MOON. The front says "This is, quite simply, one of the best romances I've ever read." Kristin Hannah. Boy it was what a fun read this book was. I would recommend it.

Fire in the Dark by Susan Macias. It was a 4* read, but not as good as The Outlaw Bride by Sandra Chastain. It rates a 4 1/2* ranking. Both books were set in the American west, after the War Between the States.

louweave, just read where you read Julie Garwood's For the Roses. Did you know that there are two more books about the " Roses" One is Come the spring and the other is The Clayborn brides. The are both good reads

gaj I am glad to find someone who likes the Intrigue books.Have you read any of Caroline Burns books about FAMILIAR? He's one smart cat.I also like Rebecca York's 43 Light St. series. I like when some of the characters show up in each of the books. Happy reading

GLOR31: Thanks, that is nice to know. I have "Come The Spring" on my "To Read" list and have now added "The Clayborn Brides". But did not know either were about "The Roses".

I am reading The Tall, Dark Alibi by Kelsey Roberts. It is a Harlequin Intrigue "Rose Tattoo" book. Romantic Times ranked it 4 1/2*.

A few more authors I really like: Luanne Rice, Barbara Bickford, Barbara Woods, Belva Plain, Judith Michael, Carolyn Davis to name a few.

Northern Joan

And my personal favorite at the moment is Susan Elizabeth Phillips. I'm looking for 2 of her earliest and she has a new one out, too.

I've been lurking for a few days. I'm very busy with business details so can't be here often for a while.

Thanks, everyone for all the beautiful condolence messages. They have warmed my heart.

Love and hugs, Sue

G A J I found the other books at Walden books. I enjoyed her writing and was looking to see what they had and came across them. They are both good. Hope you enjoy them

Ginnyann I sent you the message for Louweave. I sure am sorry about that.I have the Tall, Dark Alibe by Kelsey Roberts. I liked her series of the Rose Tattoo The last one is Wnted Cowboy and came out in 7/99 . I just finished the second book about Moriah's Landing it is Intrigue too. I belong to Harlequin reader service and they are delivered every month.

Louweave, if you are reading the messages today you will find I sent your message to gaj. Must be "old age" creeping up for me to do that. Hop you find the 2 books. They came out in 97

Started a new book last night and it looks like a winner. The Rescue by Nicholas Sparks

How nice to come in here and find so much conversation. Hope everyone has a great day.

SUE Is there a new book out by Susan Elizabeth Phillips, she is one of my favorite authors. Does anyone know the title?

Has anyone read "Thorns of Truth"? Its by Eileen Goudge. Don't really care for this one but have read others by her that were quite good. She always tells you what the characters are wearing.

The new Susan Elizabeth Phillips is This Heart of Mine. I read about it in the USA Today, February 7 while Bob was in the hospital. It was a really great article about romance novel covers as an art form. It had pictures of covers from the 40s. The SEP was in a side bar of the top ten list compiled by the Romance Writers of America. There was a Jennifer Crusie, Norah Roberts, and Cherry Adair on the list, too. I didn't recognize the other authors, but Suzanne Brockman had 3 books on there. She must be good. Sue

O'SHARNY: I haven't read Thorns of Truth. I haven't even got Eileen Goudge on my list of books read and that list is a couple of years worth of books. I thought I had read some of hers but maybe just heard you talking about her. Are there some titles of hers you particularly liked?

SUE: I will have to find that USA Today issue. Sounds like an interesting article.

glor31, that is ok about the message, I read them all!

I picked up Julie Garwood's "Come the Spring" today, Anna Quindlen's "Object Lessons", Elizabeth Adler's "The Rich Shall Inherit", and 2 of Barbara Taylor Bradford's books. Both Barbara and Anna are new authors for me. Got these from our local library. When we go I get about 10 books and my husband gets 10 movies. On a good day maybe 7 of the books will be good and 2 or 3 of the movies.8>)

I love Susan Phillip's books too, I have read 3 of hers. "This Heart of Mine", "Lady Be Good", and Dream a Little Dream. All of them very good.

This discussion is running a close second next to the Computer discussions. Can't do without the help those gurus on there give to me, nor can I yours also!! Thanks much. Lou

Eileen Goudge has written, and what I can remember liking, are:Such Devoted Sisters" "Blessing in Disguise" and "Trail of Secrets".

Thorns of Truth was printed in 1998, checked out twice at one library in 1999, and discarded in 2001.The book is in excellant condition and I only paid 25 cents for it. Good bargain,huh?

O'SHARNY: You got a great bargain. I guess I should call my library and find out when they have sales. I think they are monthly.

good morning, I would like to know if anyone has read any of Aimee and David Thurlo books? They are mostly about modern Navajo in New Mexico. They have a series out--the Ella Clah series.She is a police officer on the reservation. If you like mysteries they are good. They also have Intrigue books,too and are good reads. Being a New Englander, the west fascinates me.

I just finished Angel Falls by Kristin Hannah. I was delighted with the book. I was happier with the ending than the ending of On Mystic Lake. I could have written a little more for the ending but realized that there was just enough as written.

I also just finished Sweetwood Bride by Pamela Morsi. I enjoyed that one also. There are so many different plot lines even within the romance category. Lots of ways for authors to weave their words to keep us enthralled.

GLOR31: I have 2 Aimee Thurlo books waiting to be read. I am glad to hear you like them, I will move them up in priority.

I just finished reading a sizzling romance book, "Night, Sea and Stars", by Heather Graham. Other two of hers I enjoyed were: Long, Lean and Lethal, and Surrender. She is a new author for me, and I enjoyed these books.

Lou

Pamela Morsi is another of my newer favorites. I've read Sweetwood Bride, Here Comes the Bride, No Ordinary Princess, and Sealed With a Kiss. I've kept all of these and am always on the lookout for more. I enjoy rereading them, too. Sue

Marjorie, glad to see some one else reads the Thurlos. what books do you have? I have 16 of the Harlequin intrigue books by them. and 2 of the Ella Clah series. I think there is 7 so far in the Ella series. I don't travel too far anymore with the traffic on the roads but a Barnes and Noble is going to open soon in a new shopping center here in town. Hope I can find more there. They a web site where you can read exerps from some of their books. www.comet.net/writersm/thurlo/home.htm glor31

GLOR31: The two Thurlo books I have are Redhawk's Heart and Redhawk's Return. I read on chapter of the first one last night. Last summer I went to a garage sale and got more than 100 romances for $5.00. Slowly I am reading them. I did list all of them so that I wouldn't buy any I have.

I found a website for Kristin Hannah. I should have looked for this before and put it in the On Mystic Lake heading. Just Click Here I was checking to see if she had any books I hadn't read and she doesn't. I suppose I should get on her list so I hear about any new books she writes.

LOUWEAV: I read the Heather Graham book Surrender because it is on my list but I don't know when I read it and don't remember it. It was 2000 or earlier I guess.

Hi SUE and everyone I haven't mentioned specifically. I know you are out there.

Marjorie

HI MARJORIE:

Thanks for keeping tabs on us.

Usually lurkin'! 8>) Lou

You are very welcome, LOUWEAV. I enjoy keeping track of this discussion.

The Tall, Dark Alibi by Kelsey Roberts was a very good read! It is a Harlequin Intrigue book. Time Travel plays a big role in this The Rose Tattoo book. I am going to add this book to the Book Exchange.

I am now reading Time and Again by Nora Roberts. I must be on a time travel kick!

Marjorie does a terrific job with this site. Three cheers for Marjorie.
Hip hip hooray
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BIG Wave! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

I'll go along with that cheer, GinnyAnn.
Yay, Marjorie!

Harriet

Hi GAJ Just read your latest. I have a few Harlequin intrigues that are on time travel. A little fantasy is good at times. When I get a book I relly enjoy I cannot bear to part with it. I have some books I have read 3 or 4 times. Two years ago I had to get rid of some books NO MORE ROOM. I took my historicals, checked them over, kept the westers and gave the rest to the lobrary for their fund raising book sale. must have biven them between 3-4 hundred books. I will have to weed out again soon. Have a good day every one Gloria

I have put a number of great romances in the Book Exchange today. They can be found Here

Found a Luanne Rice book at my used book store yesterday. Its called Dream Country and I think its going to be great, I wanted to stay up all night and read but I didn't. hehe

JUDY: I have read Cloud Nine and Follow the Stars Home by Luanne Rice. I am delighted you like the one you have enough to think about reading all night. I will have to look for it.

How is everyone doing? I hope you are all having a great weekend. Today will be a quiet day for me. Just doing some laundry and getting on the computer.

Marjorie

Hi Judy and Marjorie, I am glad you mentioned Luanne Rice. I really enjoyed those you mention above, as I have already read those. Think I will check out some more of hers this week. I make one trip each week to the Library and usually check out about 10 books. Yep, sometimes I already read couple of them!!

Nice talkin' to ya!!

Lou

Hi Lou

Glad to see you here. If it gets to quiet just post and give us a little shove and we will be back in a hurry!!!

Desperado by Sandra Hill. It is my first book by Hill and I am throughly enjoying it! I got it through my library's request system. :GinnyAnn:

I'm reading Scarlett by Alexandra Ripley, the supposed sequel to Gone with the Wind by Margaret Mitchell. The writing is no where equal to to Mitchell's blockbuster, (which I read when I was grounded one weekend when I was 12, BTW!), but has kept my interest through about 1/3 of the book. Scarlett is such a conniving witch, right now she's trying to get Rhett back and has at last recognized that her unrequited love for Ashley was stupid. However, she promised Melanie she would look after him, so I'm sure that will keep her and Rhett apart for at least another 150 pages!

Has anyone else read this pot boiler? And what did you think of the original, GWTW? Sue

I haven't read Scarlett but I lo-o-ved Gone With The Wind. I have a dog-eared copy in my house and I enjoy rereading it from time to time because it seems to wear so well and is always enjoyable. It might be time for my next rereading, Sue, now that you've reminded me of GWTW.

Hi Marjorie, and everyone.

Harriet

I read Scarlett many years ago and can't remember much about it, but do agree it was nowhere near Gone With The Wind in writing. As I recall I was glad I had read it, but it will never hold a place in your heart like the original did.

Northern Joan

I haven't readScarlett and have no plans to in the future. One of these days I may reread Gone With the Wind. The first time I read it I was in the hospital and very sick with a burst appendix.

I finished Desperado and highly recommend it.

:GinnyAnn:

I too have read Scarlett, but it was so long ago I forgot most of it. Don't even remember what happened to Rhett and Scarlett. GWTW has been on tv more times than I saw it in a theater! Still a darn good story and always will be. Did you know that in the movie,the set of Atlanta (was that the city?) was burning before they even had the lead actress chosen? Don't know why, but that trivia stayed with me.

today. Stolen Memories by Kelsey Roberts. It was a light fun read.

GINNY ANN: Have you found a lot of books by Kelsey Roberts? It seems to me that you have mentioned her before. How did you find her?

I found Kelsey Roberts, but think it was by accident. Last year while on vacation in Canada I was at a library book sale. Along with all of the regular price deals they had an offer I couldn't pass up. I think it was 30 books for $2 (or something like that lol) Well it was for 'series books'. Well I couldn't pass it up, of course. What I grabbed was many "Intrigue" books. Kelsey Roberts writes for Harlequin Intrigue, so I figure I got lucky many times over with my purchase!

GINNY ANN: That certainly does sound like a great deal you got. This month I am planning to go to the library book sale near me. I don't remember ever going to one before. Maybe when I was much, much younger. Certainly not in this area.

were having monthly sales, but I haven't gotten to them. They sometime bag books up and seal it. Then offer the bags for $.25 a bag. Of the six or so books in each bag, I usually come up with at least one good find! Last time I was at the library they didn't have any bags for sale. Could I have gotten all their back stock of romances? Who me? lol

Scarlett turned into a better read when Scarlett became friends with her "common" Irish cousins in Savannah and then went to Ireland (County Meath) where she was very popular with many relatives and for a time was "The O'Hara", leader of the clan. I don't want to reveal the ending, but I think if you can get past the first 100 pages where she was so witchy, you might enjoy this book. I've been reading until about midnight for several nights in order to finish it.

I'm starting a new to me Susan Elizabeth Phillips, Just Imagine which was published in 1984 as Risen Glory. She's rewritten it and I'm expecting good reading. Sue

When I went to the library today, I saw a new book by Julie Garwood --Mercy. It is a "contemporary suspense" so I will be reading it slowly and during the day. I will let you know how I like it.

I also have it out from the library! Right now though, I am reading All the Kings Men by Linda Howard. Sandra Brown's Envy is also in my pile of library books. I started it, but put it down and started the Howard book. It looks like I will finish it before any of the other books I have waiting to be read. lol

Finished the book Dream Country by Luanne Rice and I want to turn around and read it again. You all would love this book I just know it.

I am reading the Irish Trilogy by Nora Roberts. Not one of her best. I am half way through the second book. Think I will take a break before I start the third. Have had so much company hopefully I can get back into the reading routine again.

which Irish series? Are you talking about the series that has Born In Fire as one of the books?

GINNY ANN: My guess is that GAILIE is talking about Jewels of the Sun, Tears of the Moon, and Heart of the Sea. I agree with GAILIE that it is not as good as other series by Nora Roberts.

I have been reading Mercy by Julie Garwood and find that I am engrossed. At the very beginning I thought there were going to be gory things but most of that has been bypassed. There were even several places where I was laughing out loud. I don't do that often with a romance. I haven't finished it yet but will probably do so tomorrow.

Over at the http://www.fictiondb.com/RomanceDB/ I saw that Sandra Browns Envy rated 5 * so I will probably give it another chance. However, I think that Mercy will be my next read.

I read that book by Luanne Rice. All of her books are good, I think. Right now I am into mysteries. I borrowed some of Sue Grafton's earlier books from a friend and am busy reading them. Did bring home another Kristin Hannah book but haven't started it yet.

Northern Joan

Yes I am reading Jewels of the Sun series, and not really enjoying it.

The Born in.... took place in Ireland. It was one of the first trilogies of hers that I read and truly enjoyed. I read the Sea series and don't have as clear memories of the stories.

Well I finished Mercy before I went to bed last night. I really enjoyed it a lot. It seemed to me that there could be another book following it but don't know that it is part of a series. I can accept the way it ended if there isn't another book. However, I think I would enjoy getting back in touch with some of the characters in this book that I didn't get to know very well.

I liked Nora Robert's Born in series. We had been to Ireland the year before they came out and I thought the descriptions of village life to be true to life. I also liked the fairy tale/fantasy ghost story of the series. I've always liked Cinderella tales and these seemed to have those elements for me. Sue

I was recording in my "Books Read" a book I had recently completed. When I checked the copyright for Guarding Jane Doe by Harper Allen I made a discovery. Harper Allen is an aka for Sandra Hill! Guarding Jane Doe was a very good read. Her Desperado was written under the name Sandra Hill. What fun it is finding more info on talented writers.

Yesterday I started and completed Bayou Brothers . It is a 3 in 1 book by Rebecca York, Metsy Hingle and Joanna Wayne. The best part in my estimation was the part written by Rebecca York. The other two were readable, but her part had the most punch.

Did I post how much I have been enjoying Linda Howard's work? I also likeDebra Webb's work.

Ginny, Thanks for two (new to me) author's names, Debra Webb and Rebecca York.

I, too, love Linda Howard's books. I have read about 13 of them and the only one I didn't enjoy was "The Money, Honey". But cannot remember now why I didn't like it!!!!

Yesterday I went to Barnes & Noble finally. I had gotten a gift certificate for Christmas. I, of course, spent more than that. I got Dawn in Eclipse Bay by Jayne Anne Krentz. I enjoyed the first in the trilogy. I don't know when the third will be out.

I got Heaven and Earth by Nora Roberts. I have the first in the trilogy and am waiting to read it until I have all three. I have the third on order for when it comes out the end of May.

I also got a couple of other books including Promise Texas by Debbie Macomber. The title sounded familiar but I remembered a number of short stories and that wasn't what the book looked like. I just found my list and saw that there were 6 short books about Promise, Texas that I already read. The ones I read were the first stories and this is a continuation with all the same characters and is a big book. I haven't read far yet.

Marjorie

Ooh, I envy you, Marjorie. I'd like to have Dawn in Eclipse Bay and Dancing on Air. I have H & E and have read it and Dancing. Both were really good IMO.

I enjoyed Promise, Texas. Most of Debbie Macomber's work moves right along and I enjoy reading about characters from the other books.

I haven't read anything by Harper Allen and Sandra Hill, but will be on the lookout after reading GinnyAnn's opinion. I like 3 in 1 books, too, so will also look for Bayou Brothers.

Last night I finished Blessings by Jude Deveraux which I got from Marjorie on the Book Exchange. It was a good read. Tonight I started The Viking's Woman by Heather Graham. I got it from the library today. Sue

The other day I wrote to HATS because I haven't seen her post in a long time. She responded today and said she is fine. She just is not on her computer these days. She is busy reading.

I've been reading Time and Again by Nora Roberts for a few days. You can tell I don't think it's up to her usual standards. I usually read right through them. I want to finish it tonight, though, as it belongs to my daughter-in-law and I am spending Friday night with them after we go out to dinner and to the theater. Also I stopped at my used book store today to trade some oldies. I got 3 new to me Susan Elizabeth Phillips and 1 Barbara Delinsky. I know I'll start with Phillips' It Had to be You. It's another Chicago Stars football novel.

I'm glad Harriet is OK. Just reading is pretty good. I'll bet she has something she can't put down. I'll be glad to hear what it is. Thanks for checking on her, Marjorie. Sue

SUE: HATS is Hattie not Harriet. I just had another email from her and she said she would stop by and say "hi" soon.

OK, sorry Hats and Harriet. Another senior moment slipped up on me. lol. Sue

Sue, I love you also. Thanks for thinking of me. I often think of you too and wish you well. I'm nose deep in every Mary Balogh book I can find, and I just got the newest Amanda Quick historical from my library's pay collection.

I'm so glad to hear that Hats is OK, Marjorie. Hats, if you look in here, I've noticed that you weren't around much and missed you. Drop by once in a while and say hello. I always think of every discussion we've shared with pleasure.

Hello to all. Have a Happy Passover and a Blessed Easter .

Harriet

I have been reading a mystery/thriller by David Balacci. Last Man Standing It is a good read. It has a relationship building between the hero and one of the female protagnasts, but it is not a romance. I can't wait to start a romance. I have the new one by Barbara Taylor Bradford from my local library.

Harper Allen & Sandra Hill (Desperato)are two different authors. I visited Sandra's site. Next I e-mailed her and she e-mailed back.

Dear GinnyAnn: Glad you liked DESPERADO. I am not Harper Allen, but I have twelve other published novels, most of which are still available new, and filled with the same humor and sizzle as DESPERADO. If you'd like to know more about my past or upcoming books, send me your snail mail address, and I'll send some stuff. Otherwise, check out my website at <www.sandrahill.net>. Check out my new contest and newsletter.

Thanks for taking the time to write.

Sandra Hill

Hi All,

Miss you all. I will have to come and read all the posts and see what wonderful romances I am missing. I would like to wish everyone a Happy Passover and Easter.

Love,

HATS

Yay, Hats! It's lovely to see you again! I used to be happyhappyme, but last auturmn I just switched to my real name, Harriet. So much simpler. I've really missed seeing you around and it's so nice to talk to you again.

I'm currently reading The Ideal Wife by Mary Balogh and Slightly Shady by Amanda Quick. I like historical romances, and I thought Balogh does them particularly well on the Regency period of English history. I borrowed the Amanda Quick novel from the pay collection of my library, so it's probably fairly recent.

Happy Passover and Easter to you also, Hats...and to Marjorie and Sue...and to everyone in this discussion. Health and joy to all in this holiday season, and in all the year also.

Harriet

Holiday Greetings to all. I am glad to see so many wonderful "faces" here.

I have been reading Silhouette romances lately about the Fortunes of Texas. I got a 12 book series from eBay for $13. If anyone is interested, when I finish I can send the series to you and count it as a Book Exchange here on SeniorNet (you will just pay postage). Each book represents one romance in the family and there is a thread running through that is a mystery but not really suspensful. The books are written by different authors all about the same family.

I started to read a fantasy series that PURPLE SAGE had at home. They are by a new author and I am reading the second in the series now.

Take care everyone.

Marjorie

HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE.

Good Morning Everyone, I started THE FIFTH DAUGHTER BY ELAINE COFFMAN last night. I could not put it down. I also am dying to read SLIGHTLY SHADY in the near future. I have started MIDNIGHT BAYOU BY NORA ROBERTS. Have not finished it yet. Yesterday, Nora Roberts was on The Today Show.

Will talk again soon,

HATS

HATS: Good to see you. I haven't ready anything by Elaine Coffman. Has anyone else heard of her? I will put her on my list of authors to check out.

Apache Runaway by Madeline Baker is my current romance. she is a new author for me. I started it yesterday and have read 362 pages of its 445 pages.

HATS Do you read more than one romance at a time? I am sorry I missed Nora Roberts'. What did she say?

Hi Marjorie and GinnyAnn and All, I will have to try Madeline Baker. Let's see, Nora Roberts talked about how she was inspired to write because of the Harlequins she read while her children were small, and she was snowbound. She also talked a little bit about her new book, Three Fates which begins on the Lusitania.

She is a very nice person, but she looks different from the photo that is always shown on the back of her books.

HATS

I had an e-mail message today from Amazon.com about The Official Nora Roberts Companion which I think is about her plots, characters, writing style, etc. Amazon also has her latest, The Villa.

I think I mentioned that I got some new to me Susan Elizabeth Phillips books recently at my used book stores. They were all good reads. I loved It Had to be You and To Kiss an Angel best, but enjoyed Hotshot, too. It was about a fictitious Silicon Valley computer start up company and had lots of details about real life famous start ups, especially Apple's Jobs and Wozniak. The romance was secondary and not her traditionally humorous type of characters and dialogue that I enjoy so much. Sue

If you're interested in poetry join us, your SeniorNet friends, in our brand new undertaking, the Poetry Class at Barnes & Noble "University."

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ginny

Hi Marjorie and All, I am finishing up 16 Lighthouse Road by Debbie Macomber. I like this author. I read another one called Moon Over Water. That one was good too.

I think a lot of her novels are in series form, aren't they?

Hats

I finally found an old copy of Katherine by Anya Seton in the library. I must have read it over 30 years ago.

It's even more wonderful than I remembered. It's a marvelously romantic story in a structure that's so historical that it's [possible to reconstruct the actual major events of England in the 1300's when I read it.

Sigh...it's a GOOD story.

Harriet

Harriet, everyone says that is such a good book. I need to read it too.

Hats

I'm off to the library to look for Katherine.

HATS: Many of the Debbie Macomber books I have read are in a series. Are to two you mentioned, 16 Lighthouse Road and Moon over Water, also part of a series? If so what is the series? I like Debbie Macomber a lot.

Just read The Blessing by JudeDeveraux which I had read before. Its such a feel good book, kind of like pretty lady. Its fun.

I am also going to look for Katherine

Hi All,

Marjorie, I don't know if these are in a series or not. I hope so. I like Debbie Macomber a lot too. Awhile back, I read one called After the War by Debbie Macomber. I think it was the last in a series. Boy, that hurt. It felt like entering a movie when it is halfway over. I don't want to experience that again.

Oh Marjorie, I just looked in the book, 16 Lighthouse Road. This is what DM writes,

"Before you ask if Cedar Cove is a trilogy or another six-book series, I'll tell you. The Answer is that I don't know. It'll be as many books as it takes to tell all the stories."

Hats

Hi Judy, I loved The Blessing. Any book that Jude Deveraux writes seems to work for me. I just have trouble spelling her name.

Hats

I just finished Grand Passion by Jayne Ann Krentz. I really liked that one. It is not a new one. I think I purchased it new when I was recently at the Barnes & Noble bookstore. It was published in 1994. I think I am going to keep it to reread sometime.

I also just finished a Harlequin Intrigue -- Her Private Bodyguard by Gayle Wilson. I enjoyed that one a lot. I recently purchased 16 Harlequin Intrigue books on eBay.

HATS: I will make a not of Cedar Grove next to Debbie Macomber for the next time I get some books.

Marjorie

Hi Marjorie, I am going to read Grand Passion soon.

Hats

HATS: I feel sure you will enjoy Grand Passion. I wasn't able to read anything else until I finished it. Usually I have one book I am reading in bed; one in the family room; and one for the treadmill. One of those 3 is also one I take in the car for when I am waiting somewhere. I just ordered Moon Over Water and 14 Lighthouse Road. Glad you are back with us.

I'm going to look for Grand Passion also. Thanks for the recommendation. Marjorie.

Harriet

I have been reading a Harlequin romance. There is a section that has a word I can't find in my Webster's Dictionary or on the AOL dictionary and the AOL spell check doesn't find it either. What do you think? This is a story of a man and woman who are getting acquainted and the man's middle name is Orange. The woman speaks:

"Hmm. You don't like 'Orange'?"

He shot her a look -- the kind of look that had been emergolating teasers since the beginning of time. "The name sounds either New Age or hokey to me, but actually, it's neither. Orange is a plain old-fashioned western name. Been passed down in the family for generations."

What in the world does emergolating mean?

Microsoft Word suggested embrocating (putting lotion on) and Google brought up emigration.

I've never heard of that word either. My American Heritage dictionary doesn't have "emergolate" and my computer doesn't turn up any definition for the word.

How strange!

Harriet

HARRIET: I understand from the context that what is intended is a word that implies turning away teasing or something like that. I can't come up with something that even comes close to what was written. How could that go through a spell checker before publication? Sometimes I think that is all they do before publication because I see so many typos in some of the books I am reading.

I'm really curious now, Marjorie.

I just hauled my son's massive Webster Unabridged Dictionary off its shelf. It's @ 2500 pages and it weighs maybe 30 - 40 pounds. I can understand why he didn't take it with him when he moved away.

There's no "emergolate" in that venerable dictionary either. If that giant edition doesn't have a listing for a word, does the word really exist?

Harriet

HARRIET: I don't think the word does exist. Someone suggested I write to the author via the publisher. I am not good at that but might try anyway. At least that will alert them to the way the book was published.

First is the message I posted earlier (for those who missed it). Following it are responses I received in emails from other people in Books about the word emergolating. I thought maybe one of them would know.

I have been reading a Harlequin romance. There is a section that has a word I can't find in my Webster's Dictionary or on the AOL dictionary and the AOL spell check doesn't find it either. What do you think? This is a story of a man and woman who are getting acquainted and the man's middle name is Orange. The woman speaks:

"Hmm. You don't like 'Orange'?"

He shot her a look -- the kind of look that had been emergolating teasers since the beginning of time. "The name sounds either New Age or hokey to me, but actually, it's neither. Orange is a plain old-fashioned western name. Been passed down in the family for generations."

What in the world does emergolating mean?

Microsoft Word suggested embrocating (putting lotion on) and Google brought up emigration.

(GINNY) emergolate: (v. intransitive) To galumph while simultaneously emerging, in a continual seqemce of coiling, springing, flinging motions...that's my entry.
(TRAUDE) In view of the context as I understand it, I think of the nebulous "emergolate" as a transitive verb because it is followed by a direct object (teasers). This is the sentence where the word appears :

"He shot her a look -- the kind of look that had been emergolating teasers since the beginning of time."

The word "shot" is important I think, and the look had been such as to "emergolate teasers" countless times before. Whatever look "Orange" shot at her, it may have been scathing, possibly intimidating, or a look of exasperation, resignation. But what the look was meant to do , I think, was to challenge the audacity of the teasers; at the very least to discourage them from further teasing. The explanation silenced them. That's my take on it.
(NELLIE) Now I'm not as good at picking out what type of word 'emergolating' might be; but here is my meaning: Obviously -to me at least- emergolate is made up of the three words 'em' and 'ergo' and 'late' with 'em' meaning 'in' or 'with'; 'ergo' meaning 'therefore' or 'consequently'; and 'late' meaning 'coming after' etc. So 'emergolate' means 'with consequences coming after.'

I got a big laugh out of all of this and hope you do to.

I wrote to the author and asked what the word emergolating means and told her, Jennifer Greene, what story and what chapter it is in.

Marjorie

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I'm reading an Elizabethan romance novel by Tori Phillips today. It's pretty well written and was awarded the Maggie Award. It was Phillips first romance. The title is Fool's Paradise. According to the author's blurb, Phillips has acted in summer stock musicals, appeared in "The Great Gatsby" film, written and directed plays which include 21 of Shakespeare's plays. I thought GinnyAnn would be interested in this book as she is a big fan of the Elizabethan age. Sue

SUE: My list of books says I have read Fool's Paradise. I wish I remembered it. At least the title was familiar enough for me to look it up. Are you enjoying it?

I am reading a Betina Krahn book right now -- Sweet Talking Man. It is about a suffragist and a politician. I am enjoying it. The pace of this book is different from what I have been reading lately. It is a good story.

how right you are! I love the Era of the Elizabethan Renaissance!

Romance books are getting me through the days. I finished Dara Joy's Ritual of Proof!Joy's story had the women in power! A man has to prove his 'innocence' before a woman gives him her name. I have a feeling she may have a sequel in mind.

Currently I am reading Mr Perfect by Linda Howard.

I am still in some pain.

Tomorrow I see the Oncologist.

GinnyAnn: if you haven't read Fool's Paradise let me know and I will send it to you as a get well gift. I think you would enjoy it. I'm sorry you're having pain, but take your pain pills and try to sleep through most of it. I left you a message at Coping with Cancer just now and will give you another tip that I also want to share with Lorna in Bosom Buddies.

Marjorie, I am enjoying Fool's Paradise. I normally would have finished by now but I went to bed early last night, slept late, worked in the yard, and went to town today. All that interfered with my reading time! Sue

I went lookling for Anya Seaton book on B&N today. You all forgot to tell me it was worth $200.00 or so. I felt like Alice dropping from the sky.

WOOPS

Judy: Is the price so high because the book has been out of print a long time? I've been trying to get the earlier Susan Elizabeth Phillips books (which are not as well written as the more recent ones, BTW) and at half.com the prices for those are way out of line. I remember Anya Seaton as an author from the 30s or 40s maybe. I think your best bet is to go to the books wanted discussion here and see if someone has an old copy or perhaps your public library could find you one on inter library loan. Sue

I got my copy of Katherine by Anya Seton from my public library. The book is a hard cover edition and it's so old that the pages are off their original color and texture. It's still in my house.

My goodness, I'll have to treat it like a treasure. Is that REALLY the price for it?

Harriet

Harriett maybe you should keep it and just pay for the lost book hehe

I started looking today and did not find it in my usual haunts. I still have some more places to look. I did find Metzgers Dog and paid a 1.50 for it. The new book was listed on B&N for 607.00

JUDY: I found Katherine HERE on Barnes & Noble for $39.95 although it says it is out of stock. That is more than I would pay for a book, even Hardback.

Your right Marjorie I am not going to pay 39.95 for a harcover book much less a old one. I have many hard back books put away to read when I get old (hehe) that is get old and have to sit in a chair. The only time I have time to read is in bed and with a little arthritus in my hands they are to heavy and hard to read when lying down. I probably have years of hard backs to read when I get old and am sitting around and wearing purple.

JUDY: I do the same thing you do. I won't read a hardback book unless I am in my easy chair. For that reason, most of my books are paperbacks, even if I get them from the library. I don't have arthritis in my hands but my arms get sore if I try to hold a hardback book lying in bed.

"I love romance novels. Nobody ever cooks or vacuums or dusts or does a wash." --Loretta, in the comic strip The Lockhorns, yesterday.

RAMBLER: There are lots of things that happen to everyone everyday that don't appear in romance novels -- or movies or tv either for that matter (romance or otherwise).

Back on January 1, NORTHERN JOAN mentioned reading A Woman Betrayed by Barbara Delinsky. I just finished it and could hardly put it down to do my errands. I really enjoyed it a lot. I have A Woman's Place in my stack to be read. I think I will move it up a bit.

Today I found this in Lauren Bach newsletter Her book Lone Rider is a very very good read.
In the spirit of my official motto...Life is Short - Read more Romance...I invite you to visit the romance section of my publisher's website: www.twbookmark.com. Warner's got some exciting new titles out...with more to come. Sue-Ellen Welfonder's latest, KNIGHT IN MY BED, is on shelves now. Joan Wolf's first contemporary romance, SILVERBRIDGE comes out in May. Then in June there's HIGH ON A HILL, a hardcover by Dorothy Garlock, and John Richard's, INTER-OFFICE MALE. July brings Carly Phillips' THE BACHELOR - book one of a trilogy.

And before you know it...it will be August...and time for SLOW HANDS!PS - Autographed bookmarks are now available for SLOW HANDS. Please send a SASE to:
Lauren Bach, P.O. Box 13153, Durham, NC 27709

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Nora Roberts MIDNIGHT BAYOU Set deep in the bayou of Louisiana-where the only witness to a long-ago tragedy is a once-grand house. Read more at http://berkleyjoveauthors.com/author2

-------------------------- LONG CONTEMPORARY -------------------------- Fay Robinson COMING HOME TO YOU A famous man . . . and his brother. Read more at http://superauthors.com/Robinson.html

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Vicki Lewis Thompson NOTORIOUS Keely Branscom had always been a little notorious... Read more at http://www.vickilewisthompson.com

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Sally Tyler Hayes MAGIC IN A JELLY JAR Wishes, baby teeth and a little bit of Magic... Read more at http://www.sallytylerhayes.net/

Janice Kay Johnson THE WORD OF A CHILD On an ordinary day, in an ordinary neighborhood, a knock on the door of an ordinary house leads to an extraordinary revelation. Read more at http://www.superauthors.com/Johnson.html

Carolyn McSparren THE MONEY MAN Ever since she was a child, Dr. Sara Marsdon has known she wanted to be a vet. Now she's joined the staff at Creature Comfort - a state-of-the-art animal hospital in Memphis. She's professional, dedicated and determined to save every one of her patients. And no bean counter is going to stand in her way. Read more at http://www.superauthors.com/McSparren.html

Candace Irvin IN CLOSE QUARTERS Set in San Diego, California, IN CLOSE QUARTERS is the story of U.S. Navy doctor, Lieutenant Karin Scott, and Special Agent Tomás Juan Vásquez (DEA). From the moment Karin met TJ, she had him pegged for a footloose and fancy- free womanizer. Planning their best friends' wedding didn't improve her impression either. Unfortunately, when Karin stumbles across a lethal narcotics racket at the San Diego Naval Medical Center that appears to be connected to the deaths of several local teenagers, Karin has no where else to turn. With her friends on their belated honeymoon, Karin is forced to put her trust in TJ's hands. Will she be able to figure out TJ is holding her heart as well before it's too late? Read more at http://www.intimatemomentsauthors.com

-------------------------- LONG HISTORICAL -------------------------- Linda Francis Lee NIGHTINGALE'S GATE A gentleman killer is stalking prostitutes in the alleys of Boston. The police arrest Lucas Hawthorne, the notorious son of a prominent family and owner of the infamous nightclub Nightingale's Gate. As the daughter of Boston's leading prosecutor, attorney Alice Kendall has followed the headlines, but she is not prepared when the accused walks into her office seeking counsel. Nor is she prepared for his seductive charm. Alice knows she should keep her distance from a man like Lucas. But she takes the case to trial, standing against her father for this mysterious man.

Lucas has led a life filled with unapologetic scandal and dark secrets -- secrets that he has revealed to no one, including the lovely lawyer who haunts his dreams. Alice has the power to awaken the dormant cravings of his heart, but only if she can face the shocking truth that torments his soul.... Read more at http://www.lindafrancislee.com

Elizabeth English THE BORDER BRIDE Debut novel Read more at http://berkleyjoveauthors.com/author21

-------------------------- NOVELLA -------------------------- Jill Gregory "The Rose and The Sword" from ONCE UPON A ROSE An exiled princess's last hope for recovering her lost kingdom lies with the embittered prince she is pledged to marry--a man as impossible as he is irresistible... Read more at http://berkleyjoveauthors.com/book90

Nora Roberts "Winter Rose" from ONCE UPON A ROSE On a remote island cursed with eternal winter, a young queen heals a wounded soldier -- and warms her heart with the joys of true love... Read more at http://berkleyjoveauthors.com/book90

-------------------------- PARANORMAL -------------------------- Maggie Shayne DESTINY Return to the rich, sensual, and bewitching world that Maggie Shayne created in the bestselling Eternity and Infinity... Read more at http://berkleyjoveauthors.com/book91

Robin D. Owens HEART MATE T'Ash rolled the divination dice. The spun and stopped: "Today you will meet your HeartMate." Read more at http://berkleyjoveauthors.com/book39

Linda Kay TO CHARM A KNIGHT A thoroughly modern woman ... meets her medieval match. Read more at http://berkleyjoveauthors.com/book91

Nora Roberts HEAVEN AND EARTH The second book in Three Sisters Island trilogy, Nora Roberts returns to the haunting shores of New England-and to the lives of three passionate, powerful women... Read more at http://berkleyjoveauthors.com/book35

Nora Roberts DANCE UPON THE AIR First in the bewitching new Three Sisters Island trilogy. Read more at http://berkleyjoveauthors.com/author2

-------------------------- ROMANTIC SUSPENSE -------------------------- J.D. Robb BETRAYAL IN DEATH At the luxurious Roarke Palace Hotel, a maid walks into Suite 4602 for the nightly turndown -- and steps into her worst nightmare. A killer leaves her dead, strangled by a thin, silver wire. He's Sly Yost, a virtuoso of music and murder. A hit man for the elite. Lieutenent Eve Dallas knows him well. But in this twisted case, knowing the killer doesn't help solve the crime. Because there's someone else involved. Someone with a more personal motive. And Eve must face a terrifying possibility -- the real target may, in fact, be her husband, Roarke... Read more at http://berkleyjoveauthors.com/book56

Katherine Sutcliffe DARKLING I LISTEN Even though Brandon Carlyle's acting career seems to be stalling, it hasn't stopped an anonymous fan from becoming a malicious stalker. Hoping to get away from it all, he returns to his Texas hometown for some peace and quiet. But when he meets a sexy journalist, he isn't sure if she's the woman of his dreams-or the woman of his nightmares... Read more at http://berkleyjoveauthors.com/book92

-------------------------- SHORT CONTEMPORARY -------------------------- Jamie Denton UNDER THE COVERS He needs a vacation...She wants a honeymoon! Read more at http://www.jamiedenton.net

Jane Sullivan THE MATCHMAKER'S MISTAKE Mark McAlister is a professional man who's determined to find the kind of woman who can give his image a much-needed boost. Liz Prescott is a bartender who offers to help him become the kind of man who can attract a sharp, sophisticated woman. It isn't long, though, before this matchmaker falls into her own trap--the man she's created is the man she wants. But if Mark is looking for the perfect corporate wife, would he ever be happy with her? Read more at http://www.janesullivan.com

-------------------------- SHORT HISTORICAL -------------------------- Susan Wiggs HALFWAY TO HEAVEN At a glittering White House gala, Abigail Cabot discovers the man of her dreams. Only, he's not interested . . . yet. So the gifted lady astronomer, whose passion for measuring stars has left her woefully lacking in social

GinnyAnn, thank you for all the fun web links. What fun! I finished Midnight Bayou. It kept my attention all the way to the end. Now, I have more romances to discover. Thanks.

Hats

Finished a Kristin Hannah book. I enjoyed her other books so much, this was a little different and harder to get into but I enjoyed it. Its called If You Believe

I see the YaYa Sisterhood has been made into a movie and will be out June 6th That should be fun.

I'd like to read Jennifer Crusie's Fast Women, but my used book store didn't have a copy when I stopped in last week. Has anyone read it yet? Sue

Hi Judy, I haven't read YaYa Sisterhood yet. Have you? I want to read it before the movie comes out. I think everyone has read that book accept me.

Hi Sue, I want to read Fast Women too. I read Tell No Lies. I laughed all the way through that book.

Hats

Hats who wrote Tell no Lies? If if makes you laugh I am there. I read YAYA a very long time after it came out. I thought Yuck I won't like that and then when I finially got around to it I thought it was great fun.

I spent last weekend in Chicago visiting my 92 year old mother. She is doing better than I had expected since she broke her hip a year ago. Mother is still in her own home. She has a caretaker who is there round the clock. I liked her caretaker. Mother gets around with a walker and has her routine. She said she was glad I came. It was a long trip for a very short time. I planned the trip in a hurry and there wasn't time to visit anyone else. I think the time I spent was just enough for my mother.

HATS: You are not alone. I haven't read Ya Ya Sisterhood. I started to read the sequel to it but couldn't seem to get into it. I will try to remember to get the movie when it comes out on video.

SUE: I haven't read Fast Women. I saw it on the shelf in the bookstore recently. I was disappointed with Crazy for You when we discussed it. Have you read any other Jennifer Crusie's books? Do you like them? How do you compare them to Crazy for You?

Marjorie

Hi Marjorie and Judy,

Judy, I wrote the wrong title! It's TELL NO LIES BY JENNIFER CRUSIE. It really is funny, but you know Jennifer Crusie can be very humorous.

Marjorie, I am glad you had time to spend with your mother. That time is so special. My mother and father are both gone. I still miss them. We had a very close relationship.

Hats

I started her Tell No Lies and couldn't get into it.

I have been reading a lot lately. Linda Howard's Out of Control was very good.

My husband, Ray, went to the library and while there bought me 4 more of the mystery bags of romance books. He is always on the lookout for books for me! He found 4 that were being tossed out, so he rescused them for me. lol Tow weree romance novels and two mysteries.

Among this treasure trove I got two books by Catherine Coulter, and one by Judith McNaught. Needless to say I am happily swamped in books. lol

GINNY ANN: You are fortunate that your husband is out looking for books for you. Reading is a wonderful passtime. Which Judith McNaught book did you get?

Paradise. It looks good. I know that when I am back to doing more driving, I will be listing many books on the Exchange. lol

Sounds good, GinnyAnn. Just drop us a line in here and tell us when you're putting your list up. I hope you're feeling lots better. Happy reading! Sue

GINNY ANN: I always enjoy Judith McNaught. According to my list I read Paradise last June. It is one of the few books I have kept to reread sometime. Enjoy!

GinnyAnn, what a sweet thing for your husband to do! Bless his heart, I love surprises and that's certainly a good one, apologize for horning in the discussion here but I read it and really enjoyed that remark.

ginny

Happy to see your post.

Ray is a great husband. I am very lucky to have found him! Because he is the man he is, he would say he was the lucky one. Mutual adoration society. lol

I just finished another Harlequin Intrigue:Private Investigations by Jean Barret. It read like a mystery novel with two strong leads. It didn't have the depth of Out of Control by Linda Howard, but it was a 4* read. Linda's is a 4 1/2* read. Both are library books so I won't be offering them for the Exchange.

GINNY ANN: I recently got several Harlequin Intrigue books from an eBay auction. None of them are by Jean Barrett or Linda Howard. I have read 3 by Linda Howard. I marked White Lies by Linda Howard with an * on my list. I haven't given books a number rating. Sometimes I think books earn a * depending upon my mood when I have finished them.

I've been reading mysteries from the library. Now I'm reading Seabiscuit which I got at the library on Friday. I don't usually care for non-fiction that much, but this horse story is pretty intriguing. I wouldn't mind having about a half dozen new romance novels to read, though. They really help me pass the time. Sue

I just finished a 1991 book by Debbie Macomber -- Here Comes Trouble. Don't bother with it. I can't quite put my finger on what is wrong with it but it just didn't seem to flow like her books usually do. I was very disappointed. It is a Harlequin Easyread Print book. I am sure it comes with regular print too. I was able to read it without my glasses. However, I was bored with the story from the start. The premise seemed to be a good one but something didn't ring true about the way the story was put together.

books are published by Fawcett Gold. She is becoming one of my favorite writers. She and Susan Brockman write stories that take me out of my world and place me in a world that is okay to visit but I wouldn/t want to live there. lol

Another good author is Madeline Baker. Her Indian stories grab me and keep me turning pages.

Yesterday I read Once Around by Barbara Britton. Has anyone read any of her books? I really enjoyed this book and had trouble putting it down to make dinner, etc. The story follows 2 women and 2 men who meet following Molly's discovery that her husband not only abandoned her as soon as she announced she was pregnant but also emptied their house of furnishings. Molly learns how to depend on herself and who she should trust. A very gripping story. I just ordered some other books by the same author from half.com.

Marjorie, I always enjoy a romance where the heroine learns that she doesn't need a man, but enjoys one's company after learning to become independent. I'll have to look for Barbara Britton's books. It sounds as if I'd like her writing. Sue

A strong hero makes the story fun. A strong heroine gives the story life! I like it when they both find they don't want a life without the other. They have a want not a need. Right now I am reading Shades of Twilight by Linda Howard. The heroine learned to stand on her own after the hero takes off because his family didn't back him when he is suspected to have murdered his wife. The story jumps to 10 years later. This book is one of her earlier ones ©1996 aand has a few weak moments, but all in all I am finding it a good read. It is a library book.:GinnyAnn:

I read a new novel about two senior citizens. One had been married all her adult life and had just lost her husband. The man, however, had never been married, in fact, had never been in love. He was mean and rude whenever he was around women. Through some very interesting episodes, the widow and the old groutch fall in love -- it was simply wonderful. Would that count as a Romantic Novel? I was asked that question and I couldn't really say. I think it could be but it wasn't like any other 'romance novel' I've ever read, so I'm not sure. The book is: Dennis H. Christen's "Madam, the Grass is High."

Welcome to our discussion JANEMC.

I don't know exactly what makes a "romance" novel. It has to have a romance between a man and a woman and, mostly, a happy ending. I agree with SUE and GINNY ANN. I like strong women and strong men in the books.

Who is the author and what is the title of this book? I would be interested in reading it whether or not it "qualifies" as romance.

Marjorie

Good Morning Everyone,

Marjorie, I have not read Barbara Britton. I have one by her called Sleeping Alone. When I get to her, I feel her books will be enjoyable.

Ginny Ann, I read Open Season by Linda Howard. I liked that one.

Hats

Thanks for the quick answer to my question about romance novels. A happy ending? MADAM, THE GRASS IS HIGH, the title was written by Dennis H. Christen. I understand it is sold only on a website of its own. At least, that was were I bought it. They donate a good percentage of the cost to Alzheimer's, MS and I think Parkinson's disease research. That was why I first bought the book. It has one of the happiest endings I've every read. The man actually comes and saves the woman at the end. I loved it.

Janemc, that book sounds like a romance that I'd like to read. Last year I read a book about an older couple that I enjoyed. I think the title was Julie and Romeo, but I don't remember the author. I'll have to look through my books to find out. I kept it to reread. Sue

Sue, I read JULIE AND ROMEO a few years back too. It was written by Jeanne Ray. I enjoyed it but I have to say that MADAM, THE GRASS IS HIGH was better. I related with so many of the women in the story and I really love the happy ending. I guess I'm just an OLD romanic. The story also showed a part of Hawaii that we never see. I had to ask my cousin, who lives there, if there are rivers and rodeos there. One annual rodeo and lots of rivers, she reported. Jane

Jane, can you give us the website URL where you found the book? Sue

Sue,

The website is www.booksnflicks.com. I'm not sure but I think that is the only place we can buy it. It has only been released as a Special Edition benefiting Alzheimer's research. Any other books about older people falling in love that you can suggest. I'm looking for another. Jane

I went to www.half.com and they have Madam, The Grass Is High listed but do not have it in stock. They probably have a database of ISBN numbers and that is how they have the listing.

JANEMC: I went to the web site you gave and found that the book is hardback only at $24.95. Too bad it isn't available in paperback.

Welcome. I think some of the criteria for a romance are

Male and female only having a sexual relationship with each other.

They must spend most of the time together

Happy ending

GinnyAnn, thanks. I guess that novel does represent a romance then. Good. I wanted that to be the case. It was not advertised as a romance novel, rather a love story about the old for the young. Anyway, I am looking for other stories along the line of MADAM, THE GRASS IS HIGH. If you know of any, please let me know. Thanks again.

I was on another message board on this site, (Fiction Section) and one of the posted messages talked about A THOUSAND COUNTRY ROADS and it just might be another love story for seniors like MADAM, THE GRASS IS HIGH, was. I'm going to read it and see. It's great that more and more stories are giving seniors the credit for being able to still fall in love. Any more suggestions for that genre, please post them for us all to see.

I bought a copy of Fast Women by Jennifer Crusie yesterday and started reading it last night. It's a good read and the heroine is a 40 something divorcee. That's not old, Jane, but it certainly isn't young love. Sue

I'll get that one and check it out. 40s, 50s, 60s, it doesn't matter. When you fall in love it is always 'young-love', I suppose.

I just finished a book that would probably be classified as more of a mystery than a romance although no one gets killed. I found it engrossing. It is Bitter Harvest by Susan Bowden. The story revolves around what happens when Michelle goes to visit her maternal grandmother, who she has never met, while her husband is overseas. Her mother was estranged from her family and Michelle discovers why when she visits. It is very well written and has a happy ending.

Happy Mother's Day and I hope you all get a lot of great books as gifts. Jane

HAPPY MOTHERS DAY to everyone.

I have ordered Madam The Grass Is High I liked everyones comments and do hope it gets here soon.

Marjorie and Nellie - I especially thought of both of you and Sue and Hats while reading this book -

The other night while in Borders I couldn't resist a book cover, yes the cover - a vase of bright crimson roses splashed all over the cover and the title sprung to life in white print - the book A Week in Winter by Marcia Willett - is her first publication available in the States with success for past books in Britain. On the order of Rosamund Pilcher -- it is fabulous.

I couldn't put it down and since I had no appointments during the day on Sunday I stayed up most all night and read the entire book. Toward the end I thought I knew where it was going but again, some twists and turns. There is this heavy ominous question alluded to right off the bat in Chapter one. I was so anxious to get more clues that I tried to skim the next chapter feeling annoyed with another description of another character till I found I lost the thread of what was happening and went back - from there on there was none of my even wanting to skip any of it and I was glued to the book.

Maudie, a second wife is widowed and must sell one of the two houses she received upon Hector's death. Hector's first wife, Hilda, was by all accounts Ms. Perfect. During all their married years Maudie is compared to Hilda, the perfect mother/wife etc. by so called friends but, the painful part was an especially bitter daughter, Selina who was 12 at the time of her father's remarriage after only one year since the death of perfect Hilda. There is a very good friend to Maudie in Daphnia who was Hilda's best friend and roommate at school. She helped Maudie with appropriate love, concern and explanations when the slings were heavy. The only real family affection offered to Maudie is from the youngest child of Selina, Posey who risks the wrath of her mother everytime she pals up with Maudie - which Posey does often.

The large old farm house with a commanding view that Maudie must sell, since her funds have dwindled, was for years (pre-Maudie) the family vacation house. Before it can be sold it requires repairs and renovation. The work is done by a lovely young man Rob, and than another fullness to the story, the Buyer enters the picture, while all the while Selina is adamant she must have the house and tries to get her older sister Patricia, who now lives in Australia, to help finance the venture - I won't say more but this is a wonderful story filled with the lovely English Countryside of Deven and a few other country locations as well as London and a brief bit that includes Canada -- it is a story of secrets and losses, of love and independence and memories; memories that alternate between pure joy and great fun, especially of the great 20 plus year marriage that she and Hector shared, to those memories that still bring anger, hurt and pain -- lots of questions that are explained like a long trail of breadcrumbs left as clues on the moors of England.

The widow Maudie, like Pilcher's matriarchal characters, is filled with wisdom and rational behavior surrounded by many who play games to achieve their own desires. Great Read -

BARBARA: Thank you for bringing Marcia Willett's book to our attention. I will check my library and see if they have a copy.

Sounds like you had a wonderful time with the book, Barbara. I'm certainly going to look for A Week In Winter.

Hi, Marjorie, Sue, Hats and everyone. I'm reading Three Wishes by Barbara Delinsky. It's kind of poignant, about how an accident can change our heroine's point of view about life and love.

Harriet

Barbara, thanks for the tip. I'll be looking for A Week in Winter, too.

Harriet, I read Three Wishes a while ago. I remember it as a "three hanky" ending. When you finish let me know if my memory is correct.

Hi, Marjorie. I'm still reading mysteries I got at the library. After getting about halfway finished, I realized I'd read them all, but completed them anyway as they were good reads. Sue

I received a e-mail from the author of Madam The Grass Is High today. I was very surprised and it was nice. He also said I would be notified about the money that was given to Altzheimer's and other foundations. I can hardly wait for the book.

BARBARA, I can't believe you mentioned that book, A WEEK IN WINTER. I am thinking of using my Barnes and Noble certificate for it. My son gave me a certificate for Mother's Day. I love Rosamunde Pilcher. Perhaps, this book will be written in the ways she writes her books.

The book cover is delightful. Those roses are just gorgeous. A yummy book.

Hats

Sorry for skipping the other posts, but I saw what Barbara had written first, and I got all excited!!

Hats

HI MARJORIE, HARRIET, JUDY, NELLIE, SUE AND ALL,

HAVE A HAPPY DAY READING!!!

Hats

SUE, you were right about Delinsky's Three Wishes being a three hankie book. I thought I wouldn't be vulnerable because I was forewarned that the ending was sad, but I cried anyway. The book provided a lovely opportunity for emotional venting...I wound up with tearful eyes, sad/happy feelings...the works. A very satisfying book, I thought.

In a different vein, I finished The Aristocrat by Catherine Coulter and Sandra Brown's The Thrill of Victory. They were both fun reads but more easily forgettable than the Delinsky book. To tell you the truth, I'm not so sure that's a big flaw in a romance. I particularly enjoyed The Aristocrat with an American football player hero who has a few surprises in his lineage.

I also very much liked Ordinary People by Judith Guest. It's more like contemporary fiction than romance and the book was the source for the very touching movie with the same title. The book made me cry, just as the movie originally did. I thought both the book and movie were wonderful.

Hi, MARJORIE, HATS, SUE, JUDY and everyone. I wish you all satisfying, absorbing reading.

Harriet

Hi Harriet,

Someone gave me a copy of Ordinary People by Judith Guest. I knew nothing about it. Harriet, since you liked it, that is a good recommendation. Thanks.

Hats

I hope you enjoy it, HATS.

Harriet

I received my Madam The Grass Is High today. Can't wait to start it.

Susan Elizabeth Phillips has a new novel coming out in June, Breathing Room. She is one of my favorite authors. I've read all of her books and enjoyed them all.

Harriet, is The Aristocrat a new book by Catherine Coulter. I usually like her books and thought I'd read all of them, but I don't recall that particular plot.

Gailie, I'm a big fan of Susan Elizabeth Phillips, too. I'm looking forward to Breathing Room. Most of her books are good for rereads, I find.

Right now I'm reading an oldie by Judith Krantz, Lovers. It's OK, but not my fav. However, I think I will finish it. Some of the characters from Scruples and Scruples II are in it. I never read Scruples II. Sue

Hi all! I am back from my Rivers of Europe Cruise. It was great. I read three book while on the curise, but they were all Sue Grafton mysteries. I had never read the early ones and a friend had them in paperback so I am borrowing them a few at a time to read. I have gotten to be quite a fan of mystery lately.....not suspense or horror but light myteries.

I am reading a new book by Luanne Rice too. Safe Harbor....so far it seems to be a good read.

Northern Joan

Welcome back, N. Joan. I like the Sue Grafton mysteries, too. I think I've read them all. Sue

Hi everyone. I have a question for anyone who chooses to respond.

I don't know how many of you use subscriptions. For those of you who use subscriptions, how do you discover if there is a new book discussion that you want to participate in? It seems to me that I don't see the Books & Literature main menu unless I specifically go there because I do use subscriptions.

There are a number of Coming and Proposed discussions out on the B&L main menu right now. Several of them are nonfiction. There is quite a variety.

Glad you had a good trip NORTHERN JOAN.

Hi HATS, HARRIET, SUE, and GAILIE.

Marjorie

Marjorie, I use subscriptions. I usually hear new book discussions mentioned in the library, then I go to the Books Index and look for them. I also check out any book banners I see, just in case I want to join in or lurk. Right now I'm lurking in Walden which is over my head and participating in Seabiscuit--great book, BTW. Sue

The Aristocrat isn't a new book, SUE. The copyright date on my library soft-cover copy is 1986. It's a charmer of a book set in modern times. I do like rummaging through my library's soft cover carousel racks. I find a motley collection of old and new paperbacks, romances, mysteries, Regency novels...fun stuff.

JUDY, hope you enjoy your book. I'll be looking for Madam, The Grass Is High on my next library trip. It's exciting that the author wrote to you. I don't know why, but email does seems to bring a more rapid and personal response from an author than snail mail? Do you feel that's true too?

HATS, I'll also be watching for A Week In Winter. Your "yummy" description and Barbara's recommendation have really turned me on. If you turn out to enjoy reading Guest's Ordinary People, the movie might be available in a video store. It was considered a quality movie when it originally came out, and I thought Mary Tyler Moore's performance as a cold, uninvolved mother was a stunner. So different from her usually perky roles.

Great to be talking to you all. Welcome back, NORTHERN JOAN! Hi MARJORIE and GAILIE, GINNYANN, JANEMC and everyone.

Harriet

MARJORIE, I always use subscriptions, but I try to look at the Books & Lit main page at least once every day to see what's new. I also click on banners and lurk in various discussions.

Harriet

SUE: Thanks for your quick response to my question.

I keep reading about all these books everyone is enjoying. I just realized that I have between 100 and 200 books that I haven't read yet! Many of these are small (Silhouette or Harlequin) but others are the size of most of the books we have discussed. I decided that I had better not get any new books for a while even though I read an author I haven't read before and want to read more of her books.

I finished Passion's Ransom by Betina Krahn last night. I didn't like it as much as her Sweet Talkin' Man and The Soft Touch. I still have 2 more of her books to read.

Marjorie

Though Dennis Christen, the author of MADAM, THE GRASS IS HIGH signed my book, he didn't e-mail me. Did he sign yours too? Enough of being jealous...I really hope you enjoyed the story as much a I did. Let me know. Jane

JANEMC: Your first post about Madam, The Grass is High certainly created a lot of interest in the book. Good for you. What else are you reading?

I'm just finishing A THOUSAND COUNTRY ROADS. I read BRIDGES OF MADISON COUNTY two days ago, the first installment of this series. It is truly a beautifully written story. I'm finding I like stories that include older people as the main characters. As I think about it, THE SUNSHINE BOYS may have started this genre. I might try and find that book to re-read it to see. You're right, I hope the others enjoy MADAM, THE GRASS IS HIGH as much as I did. Making such a fuss over it kind of made me now worry that others won't like it as much. I think they will though, come to think of it. Jane

Hi All,

So many great posts. I am really excited about Breathing Room by Susan Elizabeth Phillips. I like her books. Harriet, I am also excited about The Aristocrats. You guys are so great! I just can't keep up with the posts or the books, but it is certainly fun trying.

Love, Hats

Jane he did sign my book and wrote a little note. I have started it and am really enjoying it so far.

JANEMC: How many books are they in the series (Bridges of Madison Country and A Thousand Country Roads)? I did not read Bridges of Madison Country but saw the movie and thought it was great. I will make note of these books to get from my library when I finally get some more books.

To my knowledge, there are only the two in the series. I understand that first there was BRIDGES OF MADISON COUNTY and some 20 years later the author came out with A THOUSAND COUNTRY ROADS, which I just finished. I have to say that though I really liked both, a lot, BRIDGES was more to my liking. The sense of age and the love story behind or between the two characters seemed stronger in the first. Just my feelings. I'm going to try to start on BREATHING ROOM by Susan Elizabeth Phillips either later tonight or tomorrow. Too many good books to read, isn't it great?

JANEMC: Thanks for your explanation.

I was able to purchase Summer at Eclipse Bay by Jayne Ann Krentz yesterday. Now I have all three books in the series and I can read the whole series. I will be re-reading the first book. The first on is Eclipse Bay and the second is Dawn in Eclipse Bay. I really enjoyed the first one and then discovered it was part of a series and have waited to re-read it until I had them all.

I am just starting Sanctuary by Nora Roberts.

JANEMC Is Breathing Room released yet? I thought it was going to be released next month. Can't wait to get it.

MARJORIE I read Sanctuary and really enjoyed it.

So little time so many books, I can't keep up with all of you, but I do enjoy reading all of your posts.

I think BREATHING ROOM is going to be released in about ten more days. My sister-in-law works at an LA based radio station and she sends me a few of the advanced copies ever-now-and-then. Actually, I got about twenty-five different books from her just this year. A great source, actually. Talk is that it will be worth reading. I'll let you know as soon as I'm finished. Jane

JANEMC or JUDY, please tell me again how you ordered your copy of Madam, The Grass Is High. I had no luck at the library or at Barnes & Noble. Someone said something about an E-Address and an Alzheimer's Foundation connection?

Harriet

HarrietM - There seems to be only one website MADAM, THE GRASS IS HIGH can be ordered on at this point. It is www.booksnflicks.com. It takes two to three days to get the book, and since it is a Special Edition, I think the author signs all the books. At least the ones I know about. Jane

Harriett I got mine at booksnflicks.com same as Jane. It came within 2 or 3 days and the author signed it with a little message. One thing I like about the book is the pages they seem like such nice paper, much nicer than the usual run of books. Do you think so Jane?

Me again I like the faact that 30% of the book goes to research.

Judy - I agree with you. It looks as though they put a little bit more into the book than normal. Course, it is a Special Edition. Have you finished it yet?

Gailie R - BREATHING ROOM starts off a bit slow, but I am really starting to enjoy it. I'm about 1/3 through it. She's such a good writer.

No I haven't finished it yet. Maybe will read a little bit this afternoon if I get a chance.

Just finished BREATHING ROOM. I don't want to give too much away or it might spoil it for the rest of you. IT WAS A GREAT READ. It is so fun when a book makes you feel like you just left a friend's home after spending a wonderful few hours. Jane

JANEMC: I am glad you enjoyed Breathing Room so much.

I just finished reading a Silhouette Romance titled A Gift for the Groom by Sally Carleen. As I was reading I found a very funny part that had me laughing out loud. I decided to share it with you and hope some of you will also get some laughs.

The heroine is a ditzy woman and this section is very revealing. She is driving ...

The familiar sound of a siren intruded on her thoughts.

Automatically her foot hit the brake while her eyes scanned the descending speedometer needle.

Damn! Had she been speeding again? What was the speed limit, anyway? She'd been too caught up in her thoughts to notice.

This decrepit car couldn't possibly be speeding! Maybe the dangling taillight had fallen completely off, or the wire Nick had used to hold up the muffler broke or maybe the car with its three shades of rusty paint and prime violated some law of ugliness.

In her rearview mirror she watched the young officer swagger up to her car.

Swaggering was not a good sign.

She located her driver's license and held it out the window as the man approached. She didn't want him to look too closely inside, to see that she'd hot-wired the car rather than wake Nick to ask for the keys ...

The policeman accepted her license wordlessly ...

"Going a little fast weren't you, Ms. Brewster?" ...

"Only a little, " she protested. Why didn't he give her a clue? Tell her what the speed limit was? "Well, I think probably the speedometer said somewhere around about the vicinity of fifty-eight."

He straightened and began to scribble on his clipboard. "The speed limit through this stretch is forty-five. Big sign a mile back."

Great. An out-of-state ticket to start a brand-new blunder list for today.

"But you see," she improvised, "this car is eleven years old, and since carbon buildup in internal combustion engines results in a gradual slowing of all exposed parts revolving counterclockwise, it's necessary to deduct approximately one mile every year, which means I was only doing forty-seven, and what's a couple of miles between friends?" She gave him her best smile.

The officer stopped writing, lowered his clipboard, raised his sunglasses and looked at her. "What?"

"I said --"

"Never mind." He shook his head and replaced his sunglasses. "It's not right, whatever you said. You were doing fifty-nine. Slow down. ...

The whole thing is even more complicated and she ended up in jail because Nick had borrowed the car and then she "borrowed" it from Nick. This was the funniest part.

Marjorie

JANE Thanks for your critique (sp) of Breathing Room, can't wait to read it.

Marjorie, I like Romance novels with funny dialogue, too. When an author has a good sense of humor, that's a plus for me. Thanks for posting the excerpt. Sue BTW, Did Ms. Brewster get back together with Nick or was the ticketing officer also a contender?

I enjoyed that excerpt, Marjorie. Like Sue, I thank you for it.

I was watching a TV talk show yesterday called The Other Half. On that show, four guys of varying ages and stunning physical attractiveness discuss the male point of view toward women and relationships every morning.

The topic du jour yesterday was: "Do women find a man in a uniform more attractive than a man in ordinary clothes?" The general agreement from the mostly feminine audience was that most women have occasional private fantasies about a man in uniform. The "hero" factor, maybe? I know I felt that way when I was a young thing.

I know I'm getting older when I look at a Marine in full uniform and think how much his mother must worry about him if he goes into combat. Isn't age grand?

So, does the policeman become a romantic interest in the book?

Harriet

Jane, thank you for the nice email and invite to check this site out. You folks really get into your books, don't you. Wow! What a wonderful time it is where the author and the reader can actually come together and talk. Too bad we didn't have the Internet when some of the greats were alive and writing. I feel really thankful to each of you for caring about books the way you do. It really is for you folks that we write.

Judy, I took a few moments to read back on posts that you wrote last year and earlier this year. Saving hardcovers until you are old and chair-ridden? My book is hardcover and you still bought it. I hope that doesn't mean that you are now sitting in chairs more than before.

Anyway, I'd like to thank you all for the kind words and support for my book. I'm sorry that it is only out as a Special Edition for now, but I do want to raise as much as I can for Alzheimer's, MS, and Parkinson's research. Too many "senior moments" for me too, Judy. After the Special Edition run, it will hit the normal channels of distribution. It is doing well as a Special Edition, and for that, I'm grateful to wonderful folks like you all. I only wish the Internet would allow me to see your faces. I'll bet you are all "dolls" and would be great models for a new books about a book club on the Net. Your many posts would be the meat for a wonderfully crazy story, don't you think?

Marjorie. You do a wonderful job keeping this discussion going. Too bad there are not more like you around the Net. Thank you!

Dennis H. Christen - "Madam, The Grass Is High"

DENNIS: I am delighted you stopped in to chat with us. I thank you for your praise. I believe you will find many more Discussion Leaders here on SeniorNet who also do a "wonderful job" keeping their respective discussions active. Have you visited the Books discussion Author's Corner yet? You can mention your book there also if you like.

In response to SUE and HARRIET's comment about the exerpt I quoted from the romance I was reading, the policeman is just an incidental character in the book. Nick is the hero. This is the second of two books by Sally Carleen about twin sisters who are adopted by different families and have no knowledge of each other until one of them is about to be married. Then the fun begins.

Hi GAILIE.

Marjorie

Thank you. I have not yet visited it, but I plan to. I've looked around the site and see the vastness of it. Our seniors are lucky to have this site and the activities it provides. My folks are in their late 70's and are just getting into emails and such. I am going to share this with them, that is for sure. Thanks again.

Dennis

DENNIS: I hope you are successful in getting your parents to try SeniorNet. Are they readers? If they come to SeniorNet, see if they will identify themselves to one of us in this discussion so we can be available to answer questions they may have as they move around this site. Newcomers are most welcome.

Dennis thanks for the kind words. There are some fascinating areas in Senior Net. If you look in the book discussions there is one just winding down now about John Grisham's Painted House. I am a discussion leader there but aside from that it has been a wonderful discussion.

Hope to hear from you again.

Marjorie - Yes, both of my folks are avid readers. They know how to send email now, and I plan on working with them on how to move around the Internet over the 4th of July weekend (they live in Utah and I live in Los Angeles). My mother will really like this. I will make sure they identify themselves to you.

Judy - I will check out the book discussion part right now. Thanks for the information.

Dennis

Judy, you folks take this stuff serious, don't you. It looks really fun. Hope to join a future discussion. Thank you.

Dennis

Good Evening, Romance Readers. On Monday when I went to the library, I picked up some paperbacks, including a goodie by Kristin Hannah: Once in Every Life. The heroine is hit by a bus in the prologue and chooses to go back 120 years to 1873. She finds herself in the person of a horrible woman who died during childbirth. She regains consciousness as the woman, but changes lots of things for the family. There is a mystery involved and also a murder (which was based on a real murder during the life time of one of Hannah's ancestors by marriage). This book was fascinating. I stayed up until 2:00 a.m. to finish it. I think you might enjoy this one. Sue

SUE: Unless Kristin Hannah has something new out, I believe I have read all her books. I have saved them all to be reread and savored over and over. One of the things I like best about her books is how different they are from each other. She is a great writer. I have Once in Every Life on my shelf for rereading.

Judy? How do I get to that folder? Is it here on this website? I'm very interested in reading your story.

Dennis

DENNIS: Since I saw your request before JUDY did, here is a link to her discussion of Painted House which is near the top of the Books and Literature main menu.

Thank you dear Lady.

Dennis

Jane, I can't believe how much you stepped out for my book, "Madam, The Grass Is High". Thank you so very much. You mentioned you were looking for another read where seniors were falling in love. Well, one of the authors you mentioned, Jeanne Ray, the author of "Julie & Romeo" has a new book just coming out now called, "Step-Ball-Change". You should try to find it. I'm going to. The reviews are great on it. Thanks again.

Dennis

Thank you for those nice words. It was easy talking about your book. You made those people come off the pages. It was like they were new friends sitting in my room with me. Also, thanks for the name of Jeanne Ray's new book. I will get a copy. Is there another one coming from you? Is it another Romance? Jane

Could someone please put a clickable to the adoption folder for Dennis ? Please and thank you I am not sure how to do it.

Click here for the Adoptions and Biological Searches discussion in the Lifestyles folder.

Thanks. I found it and read to the end. It made me cry and laugh and am really happy for Judy. A real story for a change.

Dennis

I started a new to me Nora Roberts yesterday, Public Secrets. It's one of the paperbacks I checked out of the library. I thought I might have read it after glancing through the prologue, but now that I'm into it, it's entirely new. It's a mystery about a 60's Rock Star (actually more about his daughter). So far all we know is that someone the family knew came into the house during a wild party and attempted the kidnapping of the baby brother. The little girl who was about 5 heard the baby crying and went to his room. She obviously saw the kidnappers, who then killed the baby. She ran away in fright, fell down the stairs, had a concussion and is still unable to remember anything about that night or the intruders. She is now is a college student who is finally living on her own, after an overprotective childhood complete with body guards. It's a real spell binder. Sue

Tonight I feel strong enooough to post here. There are many books I will have to cccheck out when I am much better. Yesterday was the first day that I have been able to read and comprehend wwhat I have read.

I put aside the Suzanne Brockmann book as too serious and started a book by Nora Roberts. Time and Again. I think that is the title. It is in the other room.

Thank you all for your continuing prayers.

Hi GinnyAnn: I'm glad you're feeling well enough to post and to read again. When do you have another treatment? Ask the nurse to write a prescription for a stronger anti-nausea medicine. She'll have to ask the doctor, but if you tell her how you were feeling, I'm sure they'll try to adjust your medication. I'm keeping you in my daily prayers. Love and hugs, Sue

Hi GINNY ANN. Glad you are feeling better. I remember enjoying Time and Again when I read it sometime in the last 6 months or so. Enjoy!

SUE: I read Public Secrets some time ago. In the middle of 2001 I started putting the date I finished a book on my list. I have some dates that just say 2001 or 2000. There is no date at all by Public Secrets. I don't really remember the book. I am reading a Nora Robert's book right now -- Honest Illusions -- and I am enjoying it a great deal.

Marjorie

Marjorie: I read Honest Illusions sometime last year and enjoyed it very much. I stayed up late last night and finished Public Secrets. I really enjoyed it, both romance and mystery. I've just started Sandra Brown's The Switch, but I think I have read this already. Sue

Today I continued the Robert's book. Her smooth flowing novels are just the thing for me now. When I am stronger I plan on going back for the Suzanne Brockmann books. Brockmann writes a great romantic thriller.

My next treatment is June 3.

Thank you for your continuing prayers.

Hi Ginny hope you are doing better. You are in my thoughts and prayers. Take care we at SN are all routing for you.

Ginny....I haven't been around too much but do want you to know that you are in my prayers as well. I am glad you are feeling up to some reading.....always helps to get your mind off yourself.

I hope to finish my Luanne Rice book tonight. She certainly is a good writer....in my opinion. I am reading Safe Harbor....have any of you read it?

Northern Joan

NORTHERN JOAN: I have read 3 of Luanne Rice's books but not Safe Harbor. Have you read her book Cloud Nine? If so, how do they compare?

GINNY ANN: Some of Robert's books are "smooth flowing" as you said. The one I am reading now flows and has a touch of evil in the background. There are times I don't want to read the thrillers. Recently I have decided to put them down a couple of hours before bedtime.

I ordered Nora Robert's Face the Fire, the third in the Three Sisters Island trilogy, and got a call from the local Barnes & Noble today that it is in. I noticed just now that on the net they still say it isn't available. Now I can read Dance Upon the Air and Heaven and Earth.

Hi SUE and GAILIE.

Marjorie

Marjorie....yes I read Cloud Nine and enjoyed that too. Safe Harbor is just as good.

Northern Joan

I just finished Time and Again by Nora Roberts. It was a satisfying read. Now to choose from among my many books my next good read. I am so happy to get back to reading. I felt lost withoout it.

Hi Marjorie I just ordered Face The Fire, I have read the first two of the trilogy and enjoyed them both. You were smart to wait and read all three books at once. I'll have to review the first two before I start the third. Glad you are feeling well enough to read. I said a prayer for you while I was at church yesterday. Gail

Thank you for the prayers.

I have read another book, but can't remember its name or author. It is an older book that I found soothing reading. Currently I am reading an earlier Suzanne Brockmann. Reading it shows me how much she has grown as an author.

I read until 1 am last night in an attempt to finish Committments by Barbara Delinsky. I am really enjoying it. I finally had to put the book down because it was getting so late. I will finish it after dinner I guess. SeniorNet took priority over finishing the book because I was busy with errands today and didn't get a chance to even turn the computer on until a couple of minutes ago.

GINNY ANN: I haven't read any Suzanne Brockman books. There are so many books and so many authors.

Hi GAILIE.

Marjorie

I just listed a book on the exchange. The Morgan Women by Beverly Byrne. It was a great novel. It's been around for awhile so you may have read it. It's the first book I have read by this author. I really enjoyed it and will be looking for more of her books.

I finished Madam The Grass is High and really enjoyed it. The end had me worried for a minute but it was a fun book and when you were through you felt good about it.

Its a happy story and one that most of us could probably relate to in one or more ways.

I hope you enjoyed the three-dayer. I am so pleased and relieved that you enjoyed MADAM, THE GRASS IS HIGH. I'm just finishing STEP-BALL-CHANGE and I love it too. I'm not sure how it is going to end for this couple, but it has me hooked. I followed the instructions you gave to Dennis Christen about what you had gone threw in finding your mother and your sisters. I have to say that after reading it, I felt I knew you a little better. You are a wonderful person to have shared that with those people in that discussion. I'm happy I took the time to read it. I'm also so impressed with the number and kinds of discussions SENIORNET gives to us. Isn't it wonderful? Jane

I loved this book. It is the first of this authors work that I've read. I will look for her other book. I think it is something like Julie and Romeio or something. I noticed one of the participants mentioned Madam, the grass is high. I just ordered that for my mother. Maybe I'll get a copy for myself too. Oh! I'm new and my name is Keri Johnson. Hello everyone.

GAJ so glad to see you posting and reading again. We missed you! I sincerely hope each coming day is better than the last. BARB

KERI: Welcome to our discussion. Please post a little bit about what you are reading and enjoy reading and how you found SeniorNet. We would all appreciate hearing more from you. Have you checked out our Book Exchange? For the price of postage you can ask for a book someone has listed as available. It is a pretty good deal.

GRAM62 (BARB): I have seen your posts in other discussions but not this one. Have you been lurking and not posting? Maybe you were brought here because of GINNY ANN (GAJ). Whatever the reason you are here -- Welcome to our group. What is your favorite book and what have you just finished?

Marjorie

Jane thanks for the kind words. My biggest problem was government crap and you really have to fight if you want to get there, she is a joy and I enjoy caring for her. It would have been fun to know her before the dementia but you play the hand ect ect.

Whast is thisStep Ball Change? I think I missed that. Sounds interesting.

Last night I finished rereading Jayne Ann Krentz' Eclipse Bay. I first read it sometime last year. I didn't notice it was part of a trilogy until I started rereading it. Now that I have the entire trilogy I reread it and will start the second one (Dawn in Eclipse Bay) today. The third is Summer in Eclipse Bay. This time when I was reading I looked to see if I could tell who the other two books would be about.

As I was reading it one of the characters in the book sounded very familiar and I thought was in one of her books we had discussed. I just checked and I was mistaken. I was thinking of the book Eye of the Beholder by Jayne Anne Krentz. I don't still have the book. The character is a woman who runs a coffee shop and is a little "off" yet turns out to have the final clue to solve the mystery that is central to the romance. Eye of the Beholder is set in Arizona and Eclipse Bay is in Oregon. I guess they are not the same character -- maybe just some of the same qualities come through.

Marjorie

MARJORIE Yes I have been lurking for quite some time, however most of my reading is mysteries so I post there and in CATS. My very favorite Romance author is Nora Roberts.Thanks to all of you I have a very long list of authors to explore, both romance and mystery. I just finished several fiction books, CANE RIVER, PILOTS WIFE and MERCY. BARB

Thank you for your continuing prayers.

I am reading Madeline Baker's Cheyenne Surrender. She writes wonderful stories set in the Old American West.

So many authors and each writes so many books. The dilemma is how to find the time to read everything and be on SeniorNet and ... and ... and ...

I really am impressed and grateful for the way some of you have taken to my book. We are preparing to make a movie of this novel. There are, I suppose, many really great actors (male and female) that would like another round on the big screen, and maybe a lot of fans that would like to see them again, also. For those of you that have read the book, hows-about your opinion on who you think should play the lead roles. Ralph, Clara, Jolene, Jessie, Ethel Jewell, Carla Ann, Maggie and Mannie, or even the teenage role of Corkie. Any ideas? As the producer and the author of both the novel as well as the screenplay, I will keep it very close to the book, believe me. Some of my thoughts are Paul Newman, Joanne Woodward for Ralph and Clara, or maybe Ernest Borgnine and Jean Simmons. June Lockhart for Jolene, Barbara Eden for Jessie, etc., etc., etc. I could easily see Ernest Borgnine as Cliffy, too. If you are so inclined, please post your thoughts. Thank you.

Dennis H. Christen

DENNIS: Good morning and good luck with your screenplay. I haven't read the book yet. It is definitely on my list. You post a very interesting question. I hadn't thought of "casting" any of the books I read. I am waiting to hear any responses you get to your request.

No No Dennis not Paul Newman he is an ageing sex symbol we must have Wilfred Brimley for Ralph.

June Lockhart------PPlease she was just so nice, for Jolene you need an old broad with a history.

I will have to think about Clara-----

Hello: I have not read your book as yet but have been in here noting all the comments on it. Madam - is on my list of to reads and I will try to get it at the library but it sounds like that may not be possible.

For the casting: Did you see Judi Dench in "Iris"? That also had to do with the same subject. I should say Dame Judi Dench, the great English actress. She just was nominated for best actress for the Oscars but was not the winner. She would be awesome but would you want the same person for the same type story, so soon??????

How old are the people in your book??? Sounds like Newman would be way over the "hill" he is in late 70's I think.....

You know, Olympia Dukakis is a fantastic character actress, I wonder how she would fit the bill....

My thinking cap is on.... I see almost every movie that come out except for the teeny bopper ones and the outrageous ones.

Meryle Streep, Tyne Daley, if she lost a few lbs.

If you have any people in the male, age 30-40 bracket how about Ewan McGregor or James Caviezel. Vincent D'Onofrio is "da Bomb" if you need a strong 6ft. good looking, a little bit over the top, type of guy.

I am on the run right now, will be back soon with more ideas. I better read that fast.

Do you know John Fusco? He lives here in Stowe and is a screenwriter.

I have a question? Is there any way to get a copy of the screenplay for "A Thin Red Line" an awesome WW 2 story that had Jim Caviezel in it. That is where I first saw him. I read the original book by Jones but would love the screenplay.

Goodbye for now: Gail/VT

I can't believe it. We've spent many months talking and planning on the casting for "Madam, The Grass Is High" and you guys sing the best songs yet.

Judy - The funders for the movie and the sponsors, (product placement companies who put their product on screen then co-advertise their goods along with our movie) all want Paul Newman. He is a major draw, but YOU SAID IT BEST! Thank you. An aging sex symbol would not be seen as a Ralph. At least not the Ralph I wrote. As far as Wilfred Brimley, he actually would be really good for the role, and I will put his name on our long list and will take your suggestions, just as written, to the next producer's meeting. I should have done this a long time ago. When I first called to meet June Lockhart, I felt she was too nice and too sweet. She'd read the screenplay prior to the meeting and she came dressed to kill and played the "Jolene" role to the "t". Her fans would be really surprised. She's top on our list, but we are interested in your thoughts. After-all, you guys are the customer base.

Gail - Thank you for your wonderful imput. Ralph is a 74-75 year old man who has never been in love or married. This is his first romp in the woods, so to speak. It is a love story about the old, for the young. All of the lead and supporting players in this story have to be in their 60's and 70's. I have a few middle-aged roles, Mannie, Maggie, Carla Ann and Dan, with a teen (Corkie) here and there to mix it up a bit. I wish it (the novel) was out long enought to get to the libraries, but it is only out at this time as a Special Edition with 30% of it going to Alzheimer's, MS, and Parkinson's research. It will get there sooner or later, though. Dame Judi Dench would play Clara perfectly I think. She's right up there on our list. She is so busy, it might not be possible. I will ask around town to see if I can get my hands on that screenplay ("The Thin Red Line") for you. If I can find a copy, I'll let you know via this medium.

Marjorie - I'm happy and honored that my book is on your list. You and your girls, if I can call them that without offending anyone, would be a perfect group to really help me, Fritz Manes and Delbert Mann to cast this.

Fritz is my producing partner and has spent a career producing most of Clint Eastwoods films. Delbert Mann is an Academy Award winning director that has agreed to come out of retirement to direct this story. He won his academy award for "Marty" and went on to do "A Gathering Of Eagles" w/Rock Hudson and Rod Taylor "Desire Under the Elms" w/Sophia Loren, Anthony Perkins and Burl Ives. "Separate Tables" w/Burt Lancaster, Rita Hayworth, David Niven, Deborah Kerr, Wendy Hiller, Gladys Cooper. The film was nominated for 7 Academy Awards, with David Niven winning as Best Actor and Wendy Hiller winning as Best Supporting Actress. "Mister Buddwing" w/James Garner, Jean Simmons, Angela Lansbury, Suzanne Pleshette and Katherine Ross. "The Dark At the Top Of The Stairs" w/Robert Preston, Dorothy MacGuire, Eve Arden, Angela Lansbury and Shirley Knight. Then we all remember "Lover Come Back" w/Rock Hudson, Doris Day, Tony Randall and Edie Adams. "That Touch Of Mink" w/Cary Grant, Doris Day, Gig Young, and Audrey Meadows. "Night Crossing" w/Beau Bridges, John Hurt, Jane Alexander, Glynnis O’Connor, Doug McKeon and Ian Bannen. He's done much more but I don't want to list them all.

Jane- No, my next book is not another romance. It is a fantasy-adventure for the whole family, and will also be made into a movie. That manuscript is at the editors right now. I don't want to just be known as a one genre writer. Thanks for asking. It's title is, "Lundon's Bridge". Lundon is the name of the child protagonist of the story.

Well, I've rambled enough. Just happy that you all care who is cast, that's all. Bye for now.

Dennis H. Christen

Gees, I was just talking about Madam, the Grass is High at another discussion. I'd ordered it for my mother and her reading group and it arrived sooner than I thought it would. I have to admit I started reading it and plan on giving it to my mother after I read it. I just finished it and I really enjoyed it too. I come to this discussion only to find you all in a discussion about casting the movie and the writer is the post just before me. How nice is that. If I could join in...I think Shirly MacClane (spelling?) would be a great Jolene. I think you should also think of Rod Steiger for Ralph or Richard Dryfus (spelling?) He plays older than he is roles, doesn't he? What about Jean Stapelton. Gee, there are so many great actresses out there to think about. Oh, Oh, my mother just came in. I have to give her her book now and hope she doesn't find out I popped a peek first. Later. Keri Johnson

I would like to purchase this book over the Internet, I know others in here have done it but I have forgotten the web site to go to. Could you please let me know what it is and can I get your other book in the same place?

Thanks for your help.

I have a neurological disease, Restless Leg Syndrome, so am happy to have some of the proceeds going to research for any of these diseases of the brain. Luckily, mine is not life threatening or disabling, to a point, so I should "knock on wood" that I can learn to live with it and there are some medications that help, some of the ones that are used for Parkinsons help alleviate RLS problems, somewhat.

How about Robert Duval, did you ever see him in Wrestling Ernest Hemingway". That was so far from "Apocolypse Now", I found his acting abilities in that and other movies to be supurb.

Nick Nolte, Jeff Bridges, Kevin Klein

Jessica Lange, Meryl Streep, ELLEN BURSTYN

Good Night and thanks for writing back.

Gail/VT

Gail the adress to buy the Madam The Grass is To High is www.booksnflicks.com hope this helps.

thought this was funny

Joke of the Day Sunday June 2, 2002

A bachelor named Steve who lived at home with his mother and pet cat went on a trip to Europe. Before he left, he told his best friend to inform him of any emergencies. A few days after his departure, his cat climbed up on the roof, fell off and was killed. His friend immediately wired him with the message: "Your cat died!" In a few hours, Steve was back home, having cut his trip short in grief and in anger at his friend. He told his friend, "Why didn't you break the news to me gradually? You know how close I was to my cat! You could have sent the message 'Your cat climbed up on the roof today,' and the next day you could've written 'Your cat fell off the roof' and let me down slowly that he died." After a quick memorial service, the bachelor left again to continue his trip. A few days into his trip, he returns to his hotel and there's a message waiting for him from his friend.

The message read, "Your mother climbed up on the roof today."

What about Mary Tyler Moore for Clara and her old sidekick Cloris Leachman as Jolene? I can't get the story out of my mind and as I watch a movie or a television show, I'm watching for actors and actresses to suggest. Both of those actresses, though mostly television stars of days gone by, they both did a few really great roles in movies. Just a thought. Is Liz Taylor not right for one of the roles? Keri Johnson

Dennis how about Charles Durning for Cliffy??

Judy - Charles Durning. Others had thought of him for Ralph. I never once thought of him as Cliffy, but you have hit a possible good one. Charles would do well in that role. When he was brought up for Ralph, though I like his work, I just couldn't quite see him, but Cliffy, yeah, that's a good call. Thank you.

Keri - Liz Taylor has been considered in several different meetings. Even had her publicist in one of the meetings. Thumbs down from a few in the group has kept us from really putting her on our list. No doubt a great actress though. MTM and Cloris? They are both in that age and of course, still liked by many. That's interesting. I'll test that combination out with my group.

Any other thoughts? Would love to hear them. Thank you.

Dennis H. Christen

DENNIS: My copy of Madam, The Grass is High arrived today. I will make comments after I have read it.

Happy reading. I hope you enjoy it. Thanks...

Dennis H. Christen

On Monday my computer crashed! Please send me an e-mail so I can get your adresses in my address book!

I have been inhaling romances! I will come back later and give you some of the titles!

I just got back from Europe. I really miss the posts whenever I go overseas. I read over all the posts since my last one. The author of "MADAM, THE GRASS IS HIGH" joined our group, I see. Wonderful. Casting the movie? That's great. I'll think of my choices and add it later. Jane

Just finished a book by Dorothea Benton Frank titled Plantation A Low country Tale I enjoy books about the south and this was a good one. I'd give it a 7

I just finished Barbara Delinsky's A Woman's Place. I think it has been on my shelf at least a year and I finally decided to read it. I enjoyed it greatly. Very hard to put down. I am going to put it on the Book Exchange.

Marjorie, I just found out how to get a peek at your photo. You look pretty much the way I pictured you. GinnyAnn too. It's pretty neat to see the face along with the name. This website is awesome!

Dennis

DENNIS: Thanks for mentioning the photos. You might want to add something of yourself for us to see. I will put brief instructions in the next paragraph.

If there are any newcomers out there, all you have to do is click on someone's name and you might find a photo and description of the person there. If you want to add one for yourself, you just have to go to the Preferences button at the bottom of the page and add whatever you want. If you have questions about how to do this, email me and put "Preferences question" in the subject line of your email.

Marjorie

A new discussion has opened Bookie Profiles and, while we started it with three of our Discussion Leaders, it is for everyone who participates in Books & Literature. Stop in and tell us about yourself please.

I finished reading Madam, The Grass is High. I found the story very engaging and the characters very real. The story starts in Chicago and I grew up in the city of Chicago (I last lived there just over 50 years ago) and tried to picture a neighborhood in my mind that would fit the story.

DENNIS: I noticed the dedication of your book to your grandmother Clara Jaggi and then the heroine's name is Clara Jaggi. Are there any biographical elements in the book?

Ralph reminded me of Carrol O'Connor from All in the Family.

Marjorie

I'm so happy you found the story engaging. Yes, I actually wrote the story with the hope that my grandmother, Clara Jaggi, would have taken another gentlemen after my grandfather died. The children would not hear of it, and I was one of the few that felt she needed a friend, a partner -- even a lover. Since she wouldn't, so as not to hurt her children, I wanted to make something up that I could fantasize my grandmother doing to show all my aunts and uncles that it would be okay. Some of them thought she'd hate the story. She was 102 and was quite weak, but she smiled and told me that if she had it all to do over again, she would have at least gone out on a date or two. She was a grand Lady and she passed just a few months before the book was finished. You are right, Carrol O'Connor would have been a really great choice for Ralph. He actually read the screenplay and agreed to play it, but...

When I wrote it as a screenplay, I kept Jackie Gleason in my mind, even though he'd died years before. Wish he was here to play it.

Anyway, thank you for your kind words. I'd hug you if I could.

Dennis

I'm off today for Vegas. My pockets are getting empty so I need to fill them up again. hehe See you next week.

The ten books I'd recommend for reading this summer are in the order I'd read them:

1. MADAM, THE GRASS IS HIGH by Dennis H. Christen 2. THREE WEEKS IN PARIS by Barbara Taylor Bradford 3. THE WORST DAY OF MY LIFE, SO FAR by M.A. Harper 4. WE BAND OF ANGELS by Elizabeth M. Norman 5. THE LIAR'S CLUB by Mary Karr 6. CHERRY by Mary Karr 7. DADDY'S LITTLE GIRL by Mary Higgins 8. A FINE BALANCE by Rohinton Mistry 9. VOICES IN SUMMER by Rosamunde Pilcher 10. WELCOME TO THE WORLD, BABY GIRL by Fannie Flagg Keri Johnson

KERI: Thank you for your suggestions. Have you read all of these books or are you just starting on your list?

Yesterday I finished Dance Upon the Air by Nora Roberts. Today I am reading Heaven and Earth. These two books are the first and second in the Three Sisters Island trilogy. I am enjoying them very much.

I recently finished Jayne Anne Krentz' Eclipse Bay trilogy. I enjoy both authors. I forget the difference between them when I haven't read both authors for a time. The dust jackets of both authors may tell me that there is a lot of suspense, and even evil, in parts of the story. Nora Roberts leaves me feeling good inside about her characters and the evil seems to be more of a nuisance and I am comfortable that the characters will take conquer the evil. Jayne Ann Krentz writes in a way that I am in suspense most of the time.

I find that I sleep best when I read Jayne Ann Krentz before dinner but I can read Nora Roberts in bed.

Does anyone else have this experience? As I look at the dust jacket of Eclipse Bay, I wonder if I am describing this acurately.

Hope you are all having a fine weekend.

Marjorie

MARJORIE I'm reading the last book in the three sisters trilogy. I have really enjoyed reading this series. The last one is a real spell binder.

GAILIE: I just finished Heaven and Earth. Tomorrow I will start the last book, Face the Fire.

I just received Face the Fire from Jane S. on the Book Exchange. I am so eager to start it, but last week I got 10 paperbacks and 7 hardbacks at the library and I feel like I have to read them first. I'm working on an early Barbara Delinsky, Dream. It's short, I think was a Silhouette romance, so is not as fleshed out as her more recent novels. Sue

Marjorie. I have read all of those books and highly recommend them. I'm making a new list now for the summer, which I will talk about as I read them. I will start Heaven and Earth tomorrow. Thanks for the suggestions. Keri Johnson.

Hi Everyone

Back from Vegas and trying to catch up. Thought you might enjoy this

Subject: God and Satan

> And God populated the earth with broccoli and cauliflower and spinach and

green and yellow vegetables of all kinds, so Man and Woman would live long and healthy lives.

And Satan created McDonald's. And McDonald's. brought forth the 99-cent double-cheeseburger. And Satan said to Man, "You want fries with that?" And Man said, "Super size them." And Man gained pounds.

And God created the healthful yogurt, that woman might keep her figure that man found so fair.

And Satan froze the yogurt, and he brought forth chocolate, nuts and brightly colored sprinkle candy to put on the yogurt. And woman gained pounds.

And God said, "Try my crispy fresh salad."

And Satan brought forth creamy dressings, bacon bits, and shredded cheese. And there was ice cream for dessert. And woman gained pounds.

And God said, "I have sent your heart healthy vegetables and olive oil with which to cook them."

And Satan brought forth chicken-fried steak so big it needed its own platter. And Man gained pounds, and his bad cholesterol went through the roof.

And God brought forth running shoes, and Man resolved to lose those extra pounds.

And Satan brought forth cable TV with remote control so Man would not have to toil to change channels between ESPN and ESPN2. And Man gained pounds.

And God said, "You're running up the score, Devil."

And God brought forth the potato, a vegetable naturally low in fat and brimming with nutrition.

And Satan peeled off the healthful skin and sliced the starchy center into chips and deep-fat fried them. And he created sour cream dip also. And Man clutched his remote control and ate the potato chips swaddled in cholesterol. And Satan saw and said, "It is good."And Man went into cardiac arrest.

And God sighed and created quadruple bypass surgery.....

And Satan created HMOs..