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Re: The Library
« Reply #23800 on: February 24, 2024, 05:04:16 PM »
wow Bellamarie you do have a challenge - sounds like your caring is needed for some of your families future care rather than where my grands thank goodness may all not have the same acumen and skill growing money but they each know how to take care of themselves - however the big plus is especially my sons three boys are so close that they would not allow one of their brothers to fall along the wayside.  Sounds to me like putting the inheritance into a trust is a good caring move on y'alls part.

Allergies have me by the tail this week and today I am feeling bad enough I bet my lungs are infected - taking my usual 'fix' but do not have enough clear thinking to share more then this... till later...

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« Reply #23801 on: February 24, 2024, 06:29:31 PM »
I'm right in the middle of "Local Woman Missing" and indeed it is fantastic!  My poor old mind is having a bit of trouble keeping up, and have had to go back several pages at a time to see who was telling their story.  And, the timelines can be confusing, i.e. 11 years before; then maybe "March" "April".  It has been harder to read the "Leo" segments, as at first it was confusing me, saying "she"...when I finally figured out he was talking about Delilah.
But, thanks for the recommendation (an I can't remember who that guilty party is, LOL!)  Another "but", I'm so glad the library had the Large Print Edition, I'd really be struggling if I had to parse the story with teeny-weeny print!
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« Reply #23802 on: February 25, 2024, 03:00:05 PM »
 Barb, I am so sorry your allergies have gotten you down.  I hope it is not an infection.  I have been noticing the past week or so allergy related issues with my sinuses, eyes, headaches, and lots of nose blowing.  Getting better but I do think it throws my equilibrium off as well.  My hubby reminded me it's time to begin my allergy pill again.  My doctor told me a few years back to take an over-the-counter generic Claritin non-drowsy allergy pill every day from the onset of Spring until the first frost.  It helps tremendously.  With warmer temps the daffodils are coming up and so that's a sure sign to begin the allergy pill.

Yes, we do have to protect my daughter and I have spoken to her brothers, and they know if anything happened to me and their Dad, we would need for them to protect her inheritance and they have reassured me they would honor our requests.  She lives in Florida, and we all live in Ohio, so we don't see her much, but she and I talk on the phone daily.  She moved up here for a small amount of time during a separation but ended up going back against our best efforts to convince her to stay.  Her therapist, and psychiatrist spoke with me and told me to be careful to take care of my own mental health by not getting over involved in her life choices because not all of them are due to her illness, some are her personality and I need to step back. 

Tomereader1, yes, I had the same problem with keeping the characters and timelines straight, but well worth the read.  I can't wait to hear how you feel about the ending.  Please let me know what your thoughts are once you have finished it.

I finally finished Halfway to You!!!  Lots of twists and turns in this story, but I'm glad I read it. 

Ciao~  Bellamarie
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« Reply #23803 on: February 26, 2024, 10:12:22 PM »
Wow, that ending was---what---surprising.  I don't know.   I was most surprised by Bea.  She seemed so level-headed, calming.  Then, Boom! And then boom, boom boom.  Just revealing a side we'd never expected, but it was there, at least for 11 years.  So sorry for Kate.
I quite enjoyed the book, all in all.
Who is author of "Halfway to You"?
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Re: The Library
« Reply #23804 on: February 26, 2024, 10:18:11 PM »
Looks like the Seniors&Friends website is down again. Keep getting error message 404.

9:30 PM, now it's back!
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« Reply #23805 on: February 27, 2024, 12:45:22 PM »
BOOM!!!  Is the perfect way to describe the ending.  Good heavens I would never have suspected her.  Yes, and poor Kate, and Merideth and Delilah!  I'm so glad you enjoyed the book.  It sure stayed with me for a bit.

The author of Halfway to You is Jennifer Gold.

Shucks sorry to hear the site is down, I hope they can get it back up soon.

Barb, I hope you are feeling better.  Drop in just to let us know how you are doing.  Get lots of rest.

Ciao~  Bellamarie
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Re: The Library
« Reply #23806 on: February 27, 2024, 02:06:05 PM »
Still not functioning - it is the meds that it appears I'm allergic to - found an alternative for the one but the one that is for my eyes is a big issue - not in good humor today - this is getting to me - and then I have completely finished all episodes of New Tricks that was not a cozy but sorta low key and best it was older guys and one women and this British police show had a lightness with a sense of humor - cannot find any similar series so no sitting back and letting something entertain - best I can find is Murder She Wrote which is OK however, does not have that underling lightness and sense of humor - watched all the Doc Martin's - Midsummer Murders - Shakespeare and Hathaway - Death in Paradise lost its punch even more of late after the change of the lead - on and on - cannot find anything that I can loose myself in - If y'all know of any please let me know - well off to take a nap and hope that I wake up without this awful headache...
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« Reply #23807 on: February 27, 2024, 03:52:57 PM »
Oh, Barb, what a bummer.  Take care of yourself and get well.  Sometimes I think we're lucky if we break even on the meds we take.

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« Reply #23808 on: February 27, 2024, 04:26:46 PM »
Bellamarie, thanks for that list of recommendations.  A bit of nostalgia for sure.  I wonder what happened to Hats?  She dropped out early in Covid, and was always kind of shy.  One of the many I miss.

When that was written, I had read The Handmaids Tale and No Time to Waste, and Their Eyes Were Watching God was on my TBR list.  That's still the tally.  By coincidence, a copy of Their Eyes Were Watching God fell into my hands recently.  Maybe I really will read it this time.

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« Reply #23809 on: February 28, 2024, 07:01:05 PM »
PatH., it's so nice to hear from you.  I have not yet seen the TV show nor read the book The Handmaids Tale.  It is really popular with a lot of my friends.

Barb, I am so sorry the meds are giving you such a reaction.  My neighbor was prescribed some meds recently and they were causing her all sorts of reactions and so she had to try others. 

Since you have been in real estate, I would recommend you binge watch from the very first season of either Million Dollar Listing New York or Los Angeles.  I happened to come across an episode of the Los Angeles last year and got so involved I decided to start from the very first season. I am now watching the New York one.  I love seeing all the different houses and the personalities between these brokers competing against each other is quite comical.  I am at the time period where covid has shut down New York and the relators are freaking out.  The real estate prices have plummeted, what would have sold for 3 million is now lucky to sell for 2, and there is so much more real estate available because the people are moving out of the city to places like the Hamptons due to their feeling so uncertain of the city living with the economy and virus.  It may not be your cup of tea, but I am hooked on it.

I started a new book called The Perfect Child by Lucinda Berry.  My granddaughter who is an avid reader like me read it and let me borrow it.  It begins with a small child being found battered and bruised and no parents to be found.  The hospital admits her, and a doctor must do surgery to reset so many of her bones.  He and his wife who is a nurse at this hospital have come to care about the child and are considering fostering her until the police can locate her parents and investigate the obvious child abuse.  It's really gotten my attention in just the first chapters.   

We went from low 70's yesterday to the 40s and high winds today so after going to our church's Euchre Tournament this afternoon and dinner I came home and am just curling up in my couch blanket with my dog Brinkley.  My hubby and I have not played Euchre in years, we saw the church was beginning a bi-weekly tournament just for fun and decided to check it out.  We had 8 people show up and we had so much fun! I came in 3rd place with another player and won $1.00 that will pay for my next time.  lol

Ciao~ Bellamarie
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Re: The Library
« Reply #23810 on: February 29, 2024, 05:10:14 PM »
thanks for the tip Bellamarie - I saw that show back a couple of months ago - just one episode and was shocked at how backbiting and competitive the agents were - not at all what my experience was - we were so busy being friendly to each other since we never knew when we would be working together as representing the buyer or the seller on the same transaction tying to make it work for the benefit of our clients - we were so busy trying to achieve a win win that had we been combatants we would never have done justice to our clients. Our biggest complaint was as new young agents became active with all their use of technology they were bypassing the face to face meetups that were the start of our developing a good rapport with each other...  which also took all the fun out of the business... lots of us used to meet on a Friday night for a glass of wine at a local place regardless what company you were associated with... and sometimes the board had meetups or breakfast meetings that as many as 50 to 100 of us showed up and mingled making closer contacts... I did not get any of that flavor from the TV show - what is sad is the public takes the TV show as a model of what it is like to be an RE agent...  although maybe it is like the TV show in some of the larger cities - not my experience working with the agent here north of Houston where some Houston agents work as well as the few locals - but then bottom line it cannot be a successful TV program without conflict just as a novel must have conflict - ah so and such is entertainment...

The red bud in the backyard is in full bloom and so hopefully more of the trees will sprout leaves. That cold snap this early winter killed off so much - but coming to terms with workable meds is high on the priority rather than gardening and it has not been an easy task... There are many lots being developed on what is become busy through streets located close by and one of the sites is using something toxic in their building that even a carbon whole house filter is not allowing clean air in the house and so now I'm adding a roaring headache to all the rest of it - shoot... as Mom used to say, no rest for the weary...

Re-reading Planned Collapse of Americanism and not only finding new thoughts I did not realize their impact the first time but can see some of what was predicted based on what was already in place has come true - the challenge is big and we are hardly chipping away although more have become aware of Globalism and the social changes and many are doing their small part to hang on if not stop some of the change... A thought pattern I did not give attention to during my first read was the Frankfort School that of course I had to research - It is a school of thought in sociology and critical philosophy that appears according to several web sites to be the underlying thinking held by those administrating and teaching in our major universities... and so none of what we hear is coming out of the blue - it has been going on for years and now the students of this thinking are old enough to affect society... none of that is changed overnight or by a few legal changes... I can also see many of those young adults that have a more traditional view of ethics and morality have had their support systems cut out from under them.

According to Britannica the Frankfurt School of Critical Theory is all about "a primary goal of philosophy is to understand and to help overcome the social structures through which people are dominated and oppressed. Believing that science, like other forms of knowledge, has been used as an instrument of oppression, they caution against a blind faith in scientific progress, arguing that scientific knowledge must not be pursued as an end in itself without reference to the goal of human emancipation. Since the 1970s, critical theory has been immensely influential in the study of history, law, literature, and the social sciences."

That appears to have become the 'sell' to a nation that believed we were emancipated and not oppressed as those who live in other nations. More and more nations had become Democracies or Republics in the last couple of hundred years and yet this thinking took root in the twentieth century - the Frankfurt School of scholars had to leave Nazi Germany and came here to the US in the 1930s - I can see how our love of Freedom allows any group to develop and even proselytize their thinking and this line of thinking has done so good a job of convincing many they are dominated and oppressed - have not read the material to know but there are evidently methods developed for the oppressed to gain their freedom which my bet is using chaos and public dis-order but checking into this theory and its influence on higher education sure explains where the Legal system is coming from these days...
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Re: The Library
« Reply #23811 on: March 01, 2024, 09:36:40 PM »
Barb, I agree the Million Dollar Listing tv shows are for ratings which results in 14 successful seasons.  These agents are highly competitive because in New York if they prove to be successful it means millions of more dollars' worth of real estate will come their way.  Lots of antics are used to sell, along with thousands of dollars of the real estate agent's money to stage these high-end apartments for buyers to visualize what it would look like to live in them.  I love home design and decor, so that alone got me hooked. 

I will shamefully admit I watch the Housewives on Bravo as well.  My daughter in law got me started with O.C. and I couldn't stop I went on to New York, New Jersey, Beverly Hills and then Vanderpump Rules.  What these women are willing to do to get ratings is beyond ridiculous.  I try not to analyze why I watch these insane women.  lolol  It's like a train wreck as they say, you just can't turn away from.  The sitcoms and shows at night have become political statements so I have not watched any in years.  I guess it's one guilty pleasure vs another.  lol 

Your book sound incredibly interesting.  As a former teacher of technology in a private school for almost 20 years back in the 1990's - 2014 I can tell you the changes in the school system is frightening.  Common Core created more problems for teaching and learning which resulted in many very good teachers deciding to leave their teaching careers.  This from your post makes all the sense in how it's come to where it is.

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  it has been going on for years and now the students of this thinking are old enough to affect society... none of that is changed overnight or by a few legal changes... I can also see many of those young adults that have a more traditional view of ethics and morality have had their support systems cut out from under them.


They want to force the older teachers out so they have more of these new young adults, I so glad I am no longer in the school system. 

Ciao~  Bellamarie



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Re: The Library
« Reply #23812 on: March 02, 2024, 12:41:49 AM »
Bellamaire my daughter gave me hope today - during her call my daughter shared her uplifting information on children - (my daughter was a high school teacher till she retired with all the difficulties Covid regulations put on the teachers) Kathamarie was helping a young friend by taking her daughter to the Chirldren's museum in Greenville SC - Kathamarie and friend live in NC near Hendersonville but the two cities are only a little over 20 minutes apart from each other -

Anyhow has Kylie, the friends daughter was enjoying herself, she made instant friends with two other little girls and of course the mom and my daughter sat together and gabbed - what was uplifting was all the wonderful advancement for families that Home School - it seems in their area of NC south of Asheville NC on down into Greenville SC 20% of children are now home-schooled - not only is there a website with appropriate curriculum that includes lessons but there is a community built around all these homeschooling families and where subject matter that is mostly geared towards the typical middle and higher grades is now taught by specialists where the children get together for a day every or every other week and the rest of their class is online but they all know each other - seems there are now all sorts of companies with both services and material for home schooling - the children are happy, passing any state-required testing, being prepared for either college or a trade and those prepared for college are easily being accepted because of their grades and experiences. Trade type classes are offered by parents or a special skilled parent will take on a couple of nearby students - on and on and the mom shared this close knit community has become her valued social connection - and yes, some are doing it to further their child's religious viewpoint however, most are seeing their child receive more individual help so they are no longer hanging-on only understanding well enough to pass a test and their children are not subject to time wasting censure of students with behavior issues.

Kathamarie remembers her teaching curriculum included information about Home Schooling but it was not shown to be this all encompassing - also in spite of the opinion included in her curriculum the stats then, now 4 and 5 years ago, said that by 2030 50% of students would be Home Schooled. After listening to the enthusiasm that Kathamarie shared as a result of talking to this mom, a passionate home schooler - and hearing how they are learning as we hoped without things like Critical Theory being taught front and center even I relaxed - there really is a future with what I call common sense along with US national values that come from our Constitution.

In fact that is something I really would love to see - maybe a Ken Burns documentary over several weeks where the US Constitution was read and explained - each amendment with brief history of the background on the amendment - but mostly to understand what it says and what it means - I'd love watching that on TV.

Well another case of hope actually realized and how prayer is unexpectedly answered - the saying is 'Hope is in the Unknown' - and that is how my answer to prayer became a reality - because I've been miserable physically for over a month - a lot of it came from eye issues and the meds not agreeing with me and not being able to adequately get information to the doctor through nurses that in their attempt to simplify issues only pass on at best half the information.

Well - I think I cracked the code ;) so to speak - happened by accident but seeing the results it all clicked. During the past month two eye meds were prescribed and the last try after 8 days shared with the nurse my bad experiences and what I had researched and possibly found a solution that there were substitutes for people that are allergic to the meds - on and on all this over the phone - obviously the Doctor did not get the full message including the fact the one med was causing me to upchuck all my food every day and so on my own I stopped and the other med was causing my blood pressure to go sky high and the doctor leaves me a message to continue and so I was convinced I shared too much for the nurse to synthesize the salient points.  On my own I stopped and returned to my old med.   

Well for my own guide I made lists on paper of my reactions - included, 3 days of my daily Blood Pressure while taking the one med and 3 days when on my own I stopped - and the reactions I was having to the basic med that had been there all these years that I simply chalked up to problems of aging - and then I listed the substitute meds I learned about that were supposed to be for patients that showed allergic symptoms.  My research was mostly online sites for Doctors and so I had lots of words to look up and I stayed away from any sponsored web site because I knew their main purpose it to sell their product -

Well that is the ticket - first of all, my handwriting is awful - a combo of print and sorta cursive with a haphazard slant and spacing is not consistent - very few can read it but the nurse saw me referring to my notes and asked to read my two short pages of notes  - I was doubtful but she said if she could read a doctors writing she could read mine - my notes were not complete sentences at all - just topical words that highlighted the issues - at first she was, no other way to describe it but combative that I was doing all this research and shared I was scaring myself - I assured her just the opposite - gave her a brief for instance, pain in my skull that was obviously a vein or artery and I was really scared I was immediately going to have a stroke - till I found a photo of the veins in your head -located where in my head and learned the name and learned no cause for alarm, it was a vein that yes, connected my eye and sinuses and the vein went over the head to the base of the skull and so I put an ice pack on it and not only did it stop throbbing but I could feel the cold down in my nose, sinuses and eye - a couple of more faults she found with my researching but I decided it was her way of understanding because, she not only asked to keep my notes but, was coping them into the communique she wrote out for the Doctor. Plus, best of all, I finally had the most helpful conference with the Doctor instead of the stand off Doctor, valued surgeon versus Patient that had been taking place.

Sharing all of this with my daughter it hit - that is it - today most people are glued to their hand held screens - talking and texting is more than half of communication and so nurses, like most are almost annoyed with hearing, especially from older patients that society has us all labeled as nincompoops but written, we, our demeanor disappears and the facts can be seen, compared to the language and information used in their profession and shared - so now I see, have communication written using brief talking points and that if a point is important they will ask for further information- you have no idea what a relief it has been all day to know my experience was finally heard and medicine choices explained and a change prescribed knowing what the change hopefully will accomplish and the reasons for the expense and what alternative can be tried if it does not work - on and on -

Finally, I did not feel like a head of cattle being guided through a chute to a box car labeled 'old person heading for whatever...'  I came home and ended up taking a 6 hour nap I was so relieved - never get to bed tonight but I don't care - I cracked the divide that technology has created between a younger, now middle age person and us older people who knew most of our life before having our nose glued to a tiny hand held device that eliminates the human voice and the typical physical, facial responses between talker and listener, much less a conversation trying to gain information from someone you have preconceived notions of their reaction to life.  And so if you have not before, my suggestion is to make lists for anyone you need to enlist their help and now I can even see the advantage in as simple as a retail transaction especially if there is a return involved - people today communicate best through the 'written' word compressed into talking points... 

Come to think on it that is how Amazon does it - it used to be you had to call to arrange a return or exchange - now they have a simply list of reasons - you check one and there is a space for further comments - mash the button and you get your code to accompany your returned item - no human voice involved - for some not even at the delivery office. Wow and now there is book after book written about loneliness being the current mental issue. Ha back to the difference between TV big city RE agents and my I guess outdated experience as a Broker/agent. Not only does it make good entertainment but in practice they are out of their element having to converse with people rather than using their hand held device to communicate. 
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Re: The Library
« Reply #23813 on: March 02, 2024, 01:43:53 PM »
Good for you, Barb, for sticking to it and making them listen.

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« Reply #23814 on: March 02, 2024, 03:47:59 PM »
 :) Thanks Pat - how are you = Spring should be nipping around the corner in your neck of the woods I would think - that first bud or early spring flower and a bird singing its heart out is always a thrill - hope that is your experience
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« Reply #23815 on: March 02, 2024, 03:50:49 PM »
Joanne hope you are having a Great Texas Independence Day - miss the canon that used to go off in Austin but it is no longer a happening in Austin so not hearing anything here is as it has been - it should be a big day and night celebrating at the Rodeo that is in town...
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« Reply #23816 on: March 03, 2024, 04:20:01 PM »
Barb, Bravo!!!  Good for you for being proactive in your health care.  The one thing I have always believed in is we know our bodies better than anyone else, and we have instincts that tell us there are red flags when something is so off that the meds are not working as they are intended to.  My neighbor has such a similar experience as you and she was talking to me about it, and I told her she needs to consult with her doctor and question stop taking the meds that have recently been causing her equilibrium being so off that she fell and could not get up. She ended up injuring herself so badly, but NO broken bones thank goodness, she had to spend days in the hospital and weeks doing physical therapy. 

20 yrs. ago I was scheduled to have a hysterectomy due to fibroids, my neighbor told me to read this book before I have surgery.   
What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause (TM): The Breakthrough Book on Natural Hormone Balance
by John R. Lee MD (Author), Virginia Hopkins (Author)

I was so well informed on how I would proceed with the hormone replacement therapy after my surgery that when my female partner's colleague a male came into my room to discuss my discharge and HRT he was a bit taken aback when I let him go through his spill, and then responded, I have decided to NOT go with estrogen replacement because our bodies get plenty of it in our environment and food, I will be using a natural progesterone replacement instead.  He huffed and puffed and told me all the side effects I will experience if I do not go with the estrogen replacement.  I asked him if he has ever heard of Dr. John R. Lee's book, and he said no.  I said then you need to read it and inform yourself with his findings and treatment.  When I went for my surgery follow up my female ob/gyn was back from vacation and she questioned me about not following up with the estrogen replacement therapy.  I asked her if she is familiar with the fact synthetic estrogen taken into the body can cause cancer.  She said yes, but the percentages are low.  I asked if she had read the book and she replied, "No, I haven't but a couple of my patients have mentioned it."  I told her as a woman who may one day need to have a hysterectomy and will for certain go through menopause, she should arm herself of this information and as a doctor she owes it to her patients to know what the scientific studies have proven with synthetic estrogen. I'm happy to say I went through my adjustment after my surgery with NO hot flashes, NO sweats, NO mood swings and discontinued any form of replacement in the time frame the book said it would take.

One more thing my sister-in-law taught me was to write out questions before going to my doctor's appointments and go item by item with my doctor.  When I did that at my intake consultation before my surgery the nurse said she had never seen anyone with such good questions and was happy to answer every one of them.  I had two friends who had gone through surgery and ended up with infections due to the surgeon leaving a cloth or a utensil in them, needing to open them back up to retrieve it.  So, I asked about who is responsible for counting the items before and after surgery and was told there is a circulating nurse present and that is her specific job. 

It is encouraging to hear what your daughter had to say about the home schooling.  I have a friend who graduated college with a teaching degree, and she decided to homeschool all four of her children.  She had a small community support system as well and they would go on field trips with other families who were also homeschooling.  I do think we are in a major battle today and if parents get more involved, they can make a difference.  I just heard a podcast where a journalist and copartner took on the issue of pornographic books being in the library at their school and won and all books were removed from the library.  Too many people have become apathetic and feel they either don't want to get involved or don't feel they can make a difference.  If you don't try you will never know.

Barb, I am so happy to see you are feeling so much better! 

Our weather here in Ohio today is in the low 70s and the flowers are pushing up!!!  Can't believe we Spring forward next weekend already.  Easter is so early this year I am feeling a bit off my calendar.  lol

Ciao~ Bellamarie 
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Re: The Library
« Reply #23817 on: March 06, 2024, 10:52:13 AM »
I finished my book The Perfect Child by Lucinda Berry.  This about the author gives a perfect description of this book.

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She is a trauma psychologist and leading researcher in childhood trauma.  She uses her clinical experiences to create disturbing psychological thrillers, blurring the line between fiction and nonfiction.  She enjoys taking her readers through the dark recesses of the human psyche.

At times you can predict what the outcome could be by the decisions being made and your mind is screaming, DON'T DO IT! 

Barb, I hope all is well with you. 
Tomereader, have you finished Local Woman Missing?  If so, do share your thoughts.
PatH., What are you reading at the present time? 

I have some birthday shopping to do for grandkids so off to the mall for me.  I seriously hate shopping so I hope I can find something quickly and be done.

Ciao~  Bellamarie   
 
 
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« Reply #23818 on: March 06, 2024, 01:03:16 PM »
Oh, yes BellaMarie, I finished "Local Woman Missing" and commented on it back in Reply #23803. I did enjoy the book, and like I said "surprising" and "boom" for the ending.
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« Reply #23819 on: March 06, 2024, 01:26:24 PM »
I'm reading just a couple of things on my Kindle, but have kind of switched to checking out DVDs from my library.
My latest check out, is one that originally was a Pulitzer prize-winning book by Siddartha Mukhergee, "Cancer - The Emperor of All Maladies".  I didn't read the book due to lack of time, and figured it would be very dry and slow going.  Well, these DVDs are awesome. They are a Ken Burns production, and always with Burns you get the very best of whatever the subject is. Three volumes (I am still waiting for #3) They are about 90 minutes +-)  You may think this series would be a definite "downer" and it is sad, but there is so much we don't know about how long and how much effort has been put into research toward finding causes, treatments (good & bad) etc.  If you've lost anyone to this vile disease, this is something you may want to watch.  If you've experienced it yourself  and had whatever treatments were/are available, it is still illuminating.  I have a BFF who is now in hospice care, which is breaking my heart.
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« Reply #23820 on: March 07, 2024, 10:16:45 AM »
:) Thanks Pat - how are you = Spring should be nipping around the corner in your neck of the woods I would think - that first bud or early spring flower and a bird singing its heart out is always a thrill - hope that is your experience
Yes, Barb, spring is starting here in between snowstorms.  You can see occasional trees with a green fuzz of leaves starting, or a pink or white or whatever fuzz of flower buds starting.  The woods here are 50-50 evergreen and deciduous, so there's always a color contrast.  There will be cherry blossoms too, making a brave display along the Willamette River.  We don't have the Washington Monument, Capitol, etc., but do pretty well with picturesque bridges, nice hills, and distant mountains.

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« Reply #23821 on: March 07, 2024, 10:21:03 AM »
Tomereader, I'm sorry to hear about your friend.  Indeed, that can be heartbreaking to watch, leaving a hole that can't be filled.

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« Reply #23822 on: March 08, 2024, 07:06:35 AM »
The move has been rather trying and time consuming. Now that it is almost completed, it is time to get back to reading. I finally found my two packed away HD8 tablets so I can continue on with Persian Fire. With only my Kindle Reader and my HD10 not packed away, I listened to Far Pavilions and still have a ways to go with it. The book is extremely long but is a good listen. On the Kindle e-reader, I've been just picking about and discarding some that have been in my TBR for a long time. Mostly, they have been Kindle First-Reads offerings. The other thing I did while concentrating on the move is to stop cruising the book sales, which kept me from buying hardly any for a month or so. I haven't looked at the Kindle offering lately, but I did pick up a very few Audible books, mostly from their lending library. Adrienne Mayor's The Poison King was one.

With the move, I also switched from Cable to Streaming. It is saving me some money. Not having watched the cable channels for quite a while, I haven't missed it.

Okay, now for the bad news. I have had to pare down my bookshelves considerably. I must have discarded almost half of my hardcovers and paperbacks. The majority of them were books I bought years ago and never got around to reading. However, that does not mean it is not painful to see them go. Some I took to the Friends of the Library Bookstore, others went to the Goodwill store. There are still lots at the house which, like me, my clearance guy hates to see trashed. So, he had me set aside the books for now, and he will pick them up to take to one of the charities. What I need now, is to finish putting what books I can on the shelves I brought along and to order a few to replace the ones I didn't want to bring or already discarded.

With more moving and house selling expenses, plus a tooth extraction and implant, new brake pads, and paying the damage for the fence damage one of my pines did when it dropped some big branches on it, I plan to continue reading what I already have or can borrow for now.

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« Reply #23823 on: March 08, 2024, 11:14:41 AM »
Ouch, Frybabe, I had the same sort of thing, done remotely.  It hurts.

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« Reply #23824 on: March 09, 2024, 11:30:46 AM »
Tomereader, ah, yes, I remember the BOOM!  lol I am so sorry to hear about your friend in hospice care. I was just mentioning to my older sister how we have lost way too many friends & family members in the past year.  I will pray for your friend and you as well.

PatH., oh I am just imaging the beauty of the cherry blossoms in your area.  I had a beautiful Dogwood tree in my front yard and every Spring I loved watching the first buds come to life. They had to dig it out when we had sewer issues.  I truly miss that tree.

Frybabe, your post about expenses reminds me of the ending of my summer last year.  I felt like we just could not catch a breath before one more huge expense happened.  We had booked a two-night stay at a resort by the water (first time taking any type of getaway in years) and as we were leaving on one of the hottest days of the summer our car air conditioning quit on us.  I looked at my hubby and said, "Just drive, we will lose our deposit if we don't go."  Got there and we had tornado warnings and had to go to the resort's lower basement level.  Came home to bad storms and our newly installed sump pump was not installed correctly so our basement was flooded for the second time in two weeks.  We were up till 3:00 in the morning while the company finally fixed the problem.  Two days later...our home air conditioner went out.  I just wanted to sit and cry.  As I was going through the clean-up of the basement where my bookshelves are in the family room, I began pitching books.  Now I wish I would have held on to a few I gave away to Goodwill.

I would love to know more about streaming instead of having cable for my tv.  Not really sure how it works.  We have Direct TV and I dread paying that bill each month but as my hubby says, we don't go on vacations, we don't have any spending habits, don't smoke, don't drink, don't shop much unless we need things, so the TV is our entertainment.  He loves sports so we did add ESPN to our package until March Madness basketball is over then we will remove it.  Oh dear, I do sound a bit depressing.  lolol 

Okay gotta run, we got free tickets to watch the lady's basketball at the University of Toledo.  We have followed one of the girls since she played basketball with our granddaughter in grade school and through high school.

p.s.  I am reading a book called Rebuilt Faith A Handbook for Skeptical Catholics by Michael White and Tom Corcoran.  I probably would never have chosen this on my own, but our parish priest decided for the season of Lent to have what he calls a "Sip & chat" each Friday at 9:00 a.m.  Not really sure why it says, "Skeptical Catholics" because I am what would be considered a "Cradle Catholic" and so far, there has been nothing to show me skepticism.  Hmmm... but we had a wonderful discussion with the seven of us and I like getting to know more about Fr. Jim who has been given the task of twinning our church and another nearby one since he came a year ago.  Things are not going as smoothly as I think the Diocese was hoping for, but we are muddling through. 

Ciao ~ Bellamarie     
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« Reply #23825 on: March 09, 2024, 04:54:14 PM »
Oh my lots to catch up on - for me horrible week - who'd'ave guessed eye drops could cause so much havoc to one's body and then on top between the pollen and the fires burning up all the downed trees every day I ended up with a fine infection  - yes being sarcastic... Hate that it is someone else's horror that kept me reasonably sane but I could only think of those burned out in the panhandle, many elders who don't know if they can start over - takes years and years to build a herd with all the better blood lines to meet the needs for staying alive in local conditions but still be a superior cut of beef for selling. Just the miles and miles of fencing that needs to be replaced - that alone is daunting. And so where I had a bad week that was a speck compared to rebuilding these ranchers livelihoods and in 500 instances their homes.

Tomereader sorry to hear you are going through the process of grief with the realization there is still no easy solution for anyone experiencing Cancer. Only recently learned it was not one disease but many but the loss of your friend is hard to accept - hope your treating yourself nicely with a bit of pampering - it is hard to loose a friend.

Pat and Bellamarie so glad to hear Spring is arriving softly changing the outdoors...

I'm shocked frybabe you have accomplished as much as you have in your move - oh yes, the culling of our books - it was the same for me and then I used banker boxes and packed over 60 boxes of books that I finally, a year later shelved them all - had no idea I had so many but in Austin they were on shelves in closets and in drawers so not out in the open it is easy to overlook numbers - Finally read something that helped because most of us think we have too many books and many we have not read and we should stop purchasing - but this article talked about famous people who are not connected by the public with the vast personal libraries they own that were described as research centers - that the large libraries were for the information curious who need more than passing information as they come upon ideas and happenings in their lives. Gives a new meaning rather than thinking we are money wasting hoarders - you may enjoy seeing these personal libraries https://www.businessinsider.com/best-home-libraries-2016-8

Another I could not part with and wonder if it was the same for you and that was my collection of cookware and all the china and crystal - I will never cook for huge groups again, haven't cooked for a family in many years and will never have the kind of lunches and suppers for a dozen or more as I did but I love my cookware and my various china and crystal collection and so I'm finding new ways to use some of it and new ways to display some so I can enjoy at least looking at it. Do you have your kitchen set up or is that not an important part of your life? And what about the closet in your bedroom? I'm only getting around to culling more of my clothes and tennies - not only is it warmer here than in Austin but I will never do the kind of walking and hiking I did all those years. Goodwill is not a street and a half away as in Austin but there are more churches that have donation centers.

My reading - oh oh oh Bellamarie have your ears been ringing? Talked with my sister last week - the one who is just younger than I am and who had been a nun for over 35 years but Vatican II made so many changes including pulling funding from most orders - there were other reasons but she still lives close to the college where she had been Dean of the Philosophy department and she attends weekly mass at a nearby church that she has been a part of for all these years... well I was sharing how my friend in Norway was reading for Lent Bebett's Feast by Isak Dinesen (which by the way I am so glad I read - so different than the movie and very Christian centered with little wars between members of this small community being healed during this sumptuous dinner along with other good happenings) anyhow then I shared how you Bellamarie focused on a different aspect of that bible story naming those involved and the comeuppance of Judas Iscariot - well my sister chuckled and then share on the first Sunday of lent her parish priest also shared the story focusing on how the disciples talked among themselves finding fault and deciding what the women should do instead - This he defined as gossiping and with that went into how we should stop gossiping especially on social media about the current Pope - it is not up to us and yes pray, and with that also went into how prayer is not to make happen what we think should happen anymore than what the disciples thought the women should have done with her years worth of money instead of purchasing the oil - Jesus said stop --- her priest went into how prayer is to listen and make the connection with the Holy Spirit to deepen your own faith - and we, my sister and I went on talking about this line of thinking, dipping into the painfully felt decisions made at Vatican II decimating most women's orders and how difficult it was to not blame much less question the hierarchy and how difficult Bishops are still making it today for nuns - and of course I had my own gripes and fears about the future of the church however, we both agreed to support each other and turn to prayer in the way that her priest suggested was the purpose of prayer.

And so with that of course I stopped reading what was on my table or kindle and turned to first one that has grown to 4 books.

I immediately downloaded from Amazon Gossip by Patricia Meyer Spacks - and then it just so happened since PBS was having another fund raising and I had finished watching the British series of elder retired police as I poked around available programing landed on a series depicting The Acts - that is showing how Christianity was spread by Paul and Barnabas and the others and all the towns and their experiences. Growing up we did not read the Bible - I was more familiar with the Rule of St. Benedict and later the writings of both Theresa of Avila and St. John of the Cross then I was the bible and so I was getting lost watching this series and downloaded from Amazon a commentary explaining The Acts of the Apostles Spreading the Word Now I need a map that shows where all these ancient cities are or were located - and then something I think in the Gossip referred to a Black Swan.

I remember slightly the thought was all the thing back some 10 or more years ago and so looking it up sure enough it was a book - that author has since written several books that sound like just the thing to be reading during all the turmoil we feel today but back to what started it all I downloaded The Black Swan - not into it very far but already I can see the three aspects of a Black Swan happening over and over to the apostles while they were spreading the word and also saw how I had experienced Black Swans - one being this whole unexpected lent journey and seeing how 3 ways from 3 people or groups of people focused on a different message from the same bible story - that alone blows me away... which that reaction is one of the 3 aspects of a Black Swan - the unexpected that has a meaningful impact and effects the future. 

And then with all this spiritual and serious reading plus feeling so exasperated like a guinea pig trying one med after the other with one awful outcome after the other and then trying to breath with the air so polluted spending a fortune changing out filters - not sleeping properly or eating properly and still not finding some important thing from the move and still boxes in my bedroom and what I'm calling the Doing room and the tree in the backyard that I'm in a state of anxiety over hoping is not dead and all the chaos shown on TV - I mean I was sliding quicker than a squirrel raiding a bird feeder into a dark place. If I did not do something other than roll up my pant legs as I stepped into this barn stall of sh__ I was going to be a cranky old lady screaming at anyone and everyone or simply folding my tent and sleeping all day and up moaning and groaning all night and so my fourth book downloaded from Amazon Choosing Happier: How To Be Happy despite your circumstances, history or genes by Jem Friar

Whao am I learning a lot - I knew it was up to us to choose to be happy or not but going about making the happy choice happen given all the negatives had been out of my imaginative grasp - I knew I would rebel if the solution was just to ignore or set aside all the downers as I saw them even if many I could not personally change but, this book is an eye opener - like; success comes easier to those who choose to see life as a happier and more positive experience - and the idea of success bringing happiness is false - success only begets more desire for more success just as happiness begets more desire for more happiness that is within, not satisfied by the outside world. And happy is probably not the best word - what we are really looking for is contentment. With that line of thinking the author won me over and so I'm reading this book along with the other 3.   
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« Reply #23826 on: March 10, 2024, 08:00:08 AM »
Well, I am glad to hear that I am not the only one that stuff piles up on, both collections and unexpected expenses. My sister says it happens to her too, but she just makes a list in priority order and follows that. She also handles her finances differently than I. She keeps a running balance (rather large) on her home equity account and only concerns herself with paying that down as she can. She is not concerned about the debt because the house is paid off and will only show up if/when she sells the house. I, on the other hand, hate debt and try my darnedist to pay expenses off as they occur. So, naturally, I freak when I have to do partial payments. The only two exceptions to that are car payments and the mortgage.

The libraries: I'd like to know what is etched on the glass in Jay Walker's library. I am a sucker for spiral staircases; the Manhattan Library is lovely. Re: Richard Macksey's library, looks like we are not the only ones that ran out of shelf space, Barb. Did you notice the two rams "climbing" the shelf wall in the London library?  And what is that blue thing below them?  I am going to have to look into Albert Manguel's book.

Oops! Time to get cracking. I have lots to do today and I have a grocery order coming shortly. Have a good day everyone.



 

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« Reply #23827 on: March 10, 2024, 04:57:50 PM »
Hahaha I roared laughing when the photo of Karl Lagerfeld's Library came up.... Oh and yes, you could get lost for days in the Macksey library - would have made a great set for a Harry Potter movie - my favorite was the library in the 15th century home in Loire, France
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« Reply #23828 on: March 10, 2024, 06:21:54 PM »
Frybabe, just about everyone I know is having downsizing space/what to keep problems, unexpected sudden expenses, or both, and many are losing beloved friends or relatives.  We are far from alone, alas.

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« Reply #23829 on: March 10, 2024, 11:14:51 PM »
Well it appears I'm not the only one who has been having a time of it with sinus and lungs going to town - finally a neighborhood site and several put their two cents in after the heading on the site showed the National Forest just north of us is doing Controlled Burn and so where there may have been a few in the close by neighborhoods who were burning their trees killed by the combo historical freeze this winter after the drought last summer their burn was small and short lived in comparison to this ongoing fog hanging over all of us that we now learn is the controlled burn from Sam Houston National Forest and very close by William Goodrich Jones State Forest.
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« Reply #23830 on: March 10, 2024, 11:28:48 PM »
so where are the pictures of these libraries? None were attached.  If you're trying to encourage us to use our imaginations, you lose!
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« Reply #23831 on: March 11, 2024, 12:13:23 AM »
OH dear Hon they are in the long post when I was talking to frybabe - let me see if I can bring it down here...

here we go... https://www.businessinsider.com/best-home-libraries-2016-8
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« Reply #23832 on: March 11, 2024, 03:23:51 PM »
thanks
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« Reply #23833 on: March 11, 2024, 03:52:36 PM »
I poked in to see if there were any new posts and Barb, I have to say yours gave me a huge chuckle on the talk with your sister about the apostles gossiping.  Who would have suspected such a thing? (Sarcasm) And to say we should not speak negatively about the present Pope and concentrate on prayer instead, well, this is certainly what I would have expected a priest to say.  Yet, I do think we should define what is "gossip" since this is suggested what was/is happening, and ironically our priest touched on gossip as well this past Sunday.     

The Hebrew word translated “gossip” in the Old Testament is defined as “one who reveals secrets, one who goes about as a talebearer or scandal-monger.” A gossiper is a person who has privileged information about people and proceeds to reveal that information to those who have no business knowing it.

My point I was making is Judas wanted her money because it was going to benefit him when he betrayed Jesus, which Jesus already knew.     

As for talking negatively about our present Pope, he seems to be very public with his statements that do not necessarily align with doctrine, so when Catholics or others give their opinions, I don't see it as gossip. Our Pope is not infallible.  I think it's productive to have open discussions and ask for clarification especially within our Catholic faith. Keeping silent and praying has proven to do much harm to many who have experienced horrific injustices against them by the "church."  Our sip & chat with Fr. Jim on Fridays lead us to lots of different thoughts, opinions, questions and clarification about our faith and he is excited to have these discussions and hear the openness about our concerns. What some may see as negative, or gossip others may see as healthy dialogue.  I appreciate you sharing your discussion with your sister, and her opinions and feedback. 1 Thessalonians' 5:17 pray without ceasing

When I saw the mention of Black Swans it immediately brought to mind Truman Capote and his book La Cote Basque, published in 1965.  NOW if you want "gossip" this is definitely the definition of the word.  They say this was the beginning of Capote's demise.  I saw on Netflix the movie "The Swans" and not knowing anything about his book La Cote Basque I decided to begin to watch the movie.  Ughhhh... this poor author was a mess.  I could not get much further than after the first dinner party, I said to my hubby, it's too disgusting to watch.  I'll never see the innocent beautiful image of a swan again after knowing he symbolized the swans for the women he destroyed. Now I can imagine why Harper Lee wanted nothing more to do with him after he released his book In Cold Blood. 

Gotta run to go see the movie Cabrini. In researching my Italian ancestry, I am anxious to see this movie and how this one Italian woman overcame the prejudice and mistreatment of the Italians when they migrated to the United States and went on to do many great things.  Only by the grace of God.

Ciao~ Bellamarie
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« Reply #23834 on: March 11, 2024, 07:18:24 PM »
When I was a kid in grade school we were all guided to pray for Mother Cabrini - she had been beatified and we where praying for her sainthood - Surprised and glad to see her life made into a movie.

The Black Swan isn't a novel it is a wonderful book explaining how some events are unexpected, make a dramatic impact and action is taken because of the event - the 9/11 twin towers is called a Black Swan as is Pearl Harbor along with other smaller happenings -

I recently had a shopping experience that was one of my black swan events - I order my groceries and had in the note part said I would like expiration dates as late as possible - a half an hour before the scheduled delivery I get a call from a young women who said two of my requests had expiration dates for this weekend - one I planned on using immediately and the other I asked if we could do a substitute without my writing it all out online - no problem she said - 5 minutes later I get another call from the same shopper who said my substitute also had an expiration date for this weekend and she found another similar salad with a tad longer expiration date that she was including in my order FREE - I was stunned - all this over $7. worth of pasta salad - not only did I get to taste a salad on my own I would never have purchased but she was so kind and thoughtful on the phone plus the women who delivered the groceries was also kind putting them in my hallway and so I said as much in the after shopping survey but more I was so delighted especially with all the dark news we read an the neighbors share I wrote it up on NEXTDOOR and so many almost 200 so far put  heart next to the post and over 25 posted their own good news shopping - and so I just got off the line talking to someone at the HEB about this experience and how the shopper should know how many lives her act of kindness has affected. Thus a personal black swan event for the positive rather than an unexpected shocking me to the core that other life experiences became part of my life often that lasted for years. I'm only a third of the way into the book - the author is going someplace with this concept of a Black Swan.

The author of Black Swan is Nassim Nicholas Taleb - Another of his book sounds fascinating and after I've read these 4 I plan on reading it... Antifragile: Things That Gain from Disorder

Oh and yes, the book Gossip by Patricia Meyer Spacks does bring up not Capote per se as an example but how the use of Gossip is frequently used in a novel and how so much of what is written is actually gossip - that one, of the many ways the book is claiming gossip is, talking about anyone who is not present - The book brings up all the ways of Gossip and how historically society has treated Gossip and all the pithy sayings about gossip that have been used since mostly the 15th century by those who engaged or de-swayed gossip but also, I'm just getting into where the author says there is a positive side to Gossip - Still only a quarter of the way into the book so anxious to read how gossip can be a benefit. The book does not moralize about gossip only gives so far the history of how we have reacted and how society has moralized plus all the different ways Gossip is carried out. Evidently she has traced the use of Gossip back to the Egyptians.

Oh yes, Bellamarie had a kindle book suggested the other day on Book Buds that after reading the excerpt and the review could not resist - only $1.99 and again, thought of you -  The Dog Who Ate the Truffle: A Memoir of Stories and Recipes from Umbria by Suzanne Carreiro - from Amazon "her intimate look at its ancient recipes, traditions, and the people who pass them on. Each of the book's eight chapters features local cooks, as their personal stories are as much a part of the cuisine's essence as are the crops they grow and the family dishes they prepare.

Anecdotes, sidebars, and boxes are used throughout the book to further illustrate Umbrian life—from buying a rabbit in the country, to making torta di Pasqua for Easter, to reading the Italian wine label, and drinking cappuccino after lunch (a serious breach in tradition)."

Growing up, my grandmother on my father's side always served Rabbit when we visited - Rabbit with Spaetzle which is almost like macaroni but not rolled out nor does it have an egg in it. Probably closer to itsy tiny dumplings. 

Well finished watch The Acts - am I glad I purchased the commentary - on my own I would have missed so much - what disappointed me is we read how there was so much teaching going on but no where does it include any of the teaching points other than Christ rose from the dead and sharing the ability to heal where as last night I started to watch the movie of Matthew - over 3 hours and only watch a bit less than 2 hours last night - so far the stories we learned as children are part of the bible by Matthew - remember reading one time the litany of names and could not see why it was important to include where as last night depicting that part it made sense with Matthew as an old man quoting the list of names to a child, probably a grandchild, the explanation how the spacing of 14 names between the start and I think it was David and then another 14 names with another pivotal historic person and then finally 14 names till Jesus and then, at least in Matthew we do hear some of what Jesus preached including the use of parables and the explanation to the apostles as to why the use of parables - I've already downloaded Matthew to read - not sure if I will purchase a commentary - I do not feel as confused as I did watching The Acts. 

Well finally the smoke has lifted - the sun is out nice a bright rather than a sun trying to penetrate what most of us thought was fog till we learned it really was smoke. With head clear and no dripping nose I can settle down - nothing on TV again and I am now anxious to finish at least one of the books I'm reading because I'm ready to change subject matter for maybe a Larry McMurtry - I'm thinking of starting his series The Berrybender Narratives - There is always an overlay of headstrong and brave characters in a Larry McMurtry novel and right now that would be a welcome read. 
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« Reply #23835 on: March 12, 2024, 08:09:59 AM »
You two have me intrigued. I have had some small exposure to theories of probability when in college both in psychology and statistics and probability classes, and have since lightly followed theories of probability in physics (think Schrödinger, et. al.). I do not pretend to understand most of it, but I do keep trying. So now here is  Nassim Nicholas Taleb whose background after college included being a hedge fund manager and a derivatives trader. The Black Swan is one of a five volume philosophical essay series. Of course, he has critical of work by others and has traded barbs and criticism with plenty of them.  It appears, though, that the renown statistician David A. Freedman was one of those who defended Taleb's work. Off to FLP to see if they have any of Taleb's books. I might check see what they have on Freedman, too, as his efforts were concentrated on forensic statistics with applications in a wide range of social, medical and business fields.

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« Reply #23836 on: March 12, 2024, 01:25:26 PM »
Frybabe hope you find something written by Taleb - my take on what he is saying in Black Swan is he is throwing a hand-grenade into the middle of using theories based on statistics - that statistics only can measure the past without any room for the unexpected - He does not include for instance the stock market crash of '29 among his examples - however, other events did effect the stock market that were unexpected events.

Without ever thinking of taking Taleb's work to examine the Stock Market my guess is with as many economic highs and lows in the US frequented throughout the nineteenth century, statistics could probably have predicted a bust after the high of the 1920s just maybe not a bust as all encompassing or as cataclysmic as it was. Where as nothing gave anyone a clue that something like 9/11 could happen -

Oh during the war and in thick fog a B-25 flew into the Empire State Building but that was an accident not a planed attack nor did it cause the death of a couple of thousand - as I recall the Empire State Building crash there were injuries but no deaths. All to say that the concept of a Black Swan is something unexpected that throws off using math or science to guess an outcome.

You are probably not following the relationship of Black Swans to the bible reading I'm doing but an update - watching Matthew's Bible has me back peddling on some of what I thought were unexpected attacks on those spreading the word of Jesus - it seems Jesus warned the apostles of just such attacks and that they should by pass those towns   therefore not Black Swan experiences.
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Re: The Library
« Reply #23837 on: March 12, 2024, 05:48:01 PM »
I have placed three of Taleb's books on my wish list at the online library: Antifragile, Skin in the Game, and Fooled by Randomness. In my search, a title named The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity by Carlo M. Cipolla for which Taleb wrote a forward. It is very short. Audible also offers Taleb's works in five or six languages. I expect there are lots of places you can pick up his books. Kobo has the five-volume Incerto set all in one book. I rather suspect Amazon also carries his books.

Has anyone read Travels with George, In Search of Washington and His Legacy by Nathaniel Philbrick? I recently added that to my library wishlist.

I've settled down a little bit, so I resumed listening to The Far Pavilions and am in the middle of reading a book of short stories by Joe Haldeman. I finally found my other two tablets in one of the first boxes I brought over to the apartment. Yea! Now I can also pick up on Persian Fire and the early history of the Indian Empire (forget the title) by William Dalrymple. Well, I can, but not likely right away. I'll finish what I have going on the other two tablets first. Still almost 40hrs. to go on The Far Pavilions.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #23838 on: March 12, 2024, 07:42:02 PM »
haven't read Travels with George, In Search of Washington and His Legacy but I've enjoyed a couple of Nathaniel Philbrick's other books. He makes history sound almost like a novel and he writes it as an exciting event. Saw that title about George Washington but thought I had too much on my pile to add it.

Thinking Taleb's Fooled By Randomness could be a continuation of his Black Swan line of thinking but for sure plan on reading Antifragile sounds too good given what is going on around us these days. And hahaha at 12.48 cents a page I just had to download The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity - what a lark it sounds like a read that will provide a laugh as the serious subject is the book's topic.

Read Far Pavilions some years ago and then there was either a movie or maybe a PBS series - don't remember which - for some reason I'm not taken with India or the stories that come out of India - so much of the way the Indian people treat each other makes me uncomfortable - even here in the states my experience while a RE Broker was not pleasant with the small handful of Indian nationals I worked with or had a client who was selling and the buyers were Indian - my experience was, no respect for property that does not belong to them or for anyone whose home they were previewing or attempting to buy - I could go on with a few stories but prefer to bury the experiences and of course that influenced me further how I digest a book taking place in India. The other aspect was how the British treated the Indian people grrr - obviously not a fan of books about India...  ;)  :) however a lot of pageantry so the movie was lush. 
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Re: The Library
« Reply #23839 on: March 14, 2024, 05:04:25 AM »
wow worth every penny - packed full and so much makes sense using this guy's theory fully explained in - The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity -
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