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BarbStAubrey:
and this from Robert Kennedy Jr. a Democrat - about 10 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-5Zpmh6yPI&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2DbT9QSBkP6ZNEcaxP1818LI8SEf1zfvVUt4hLEGc927EIg1Y8j7yg0fI

ginny:
Dr. Gbur's use of the word "sheep" and "herd" in relation to masks, etc., being "stupid" reminds me of a news clip from  two days ago,  where a woman accosted a group of people coming toward her in masks, shouting  something about "99 percent cure rate, and you are wearing masks: you are all SHEEP!"

It's amazing to me how people interpret "freedom." What business is it of hers  if people want to wear masks to help protect others?  What right has she to accost people in the street about how they dress or look?

Is it really  necessary for her or Dr. Gbur to liken people to sheep or say they are "stupid"  when they want to try to protect themselves and others? I don't see an absence of masks among those having to deal with the consequences in hospitals?

Hilary Mantel speaking at the Hay Festival in Wales, now on video,  talks about how the Tudors were  very aware of the need for distancing in the various plagues and were actually very good at it, at least the king's court was, they kept moving.

There are many people speaking out  with authority in this pandemic, not all of them constructively or nicely,   or even coherently, so what is the public worried about bringing it home supposed to do? Be insulted for following what was said by those supposedly in charge  to be effective?





                       

BarbStAubrey:
Yes, difference between what Dr. Gbur has to say compared to what Dr. Zach has to say - I'm thinking we will learn what works in two weeks after thousands in a city rioted without masks or distancing - one city in California had over 50K jammed together protesting in one spot - unfortunately all I see is everything that happens is politicized and then looses truth in order to create drama for media attention, further dividing the nation - divided we fall...

Frybabe:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/jan/19/open-letter-calls-for-publishing-boycott-of-trump-administration-memoirs?utm_term=18728835c71552dc1c121582d672c11c&utm_campaign=Bookmarks&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=bookmarks_email

Didn't want to bog down the general discussion with this, but I do think it is important. Everything, but everything seems to be getting politicized now. This kind of call for censorship from the publishing industry comes close to curtailing if not squelching or freedom of speech, a basic right guaranteed by our Constitution. Fortunately, self publishing is much easier these days what with the computer and internet. Well, almost. Posting or advertising an author's works to the internet could be cut off by those in power (whether political or in business). While I believe in the right of business leaders choose what they want to associate themselves with, I do not believe they have the right to bully others to do the same. I also think they should be taking a step back, calming down, and thinking things through before committing to what appears to be an over-board response to current rhetoric and emotions. Let the readers decide what they want to read or not, or for that matter watch. I do not have to buy or read a book or watch a show I am not interested in or agree with, but that doesn't mean I have the right to say, you can't if I don't. There are a few exceptions (ex: child porn), but this expanding censorship, and might I say hatred and vengeance, especially regarding political views is disturbing.

BarbStAubrey:
Notice several books i had an interest in were taken down and one is now only available on the Amazon Japanese book site - it was available last week when I put it on my list but now not in the US - UK - France or Germany - All this does is make the books I'm interested in seem more important to read - if they are pulling it down it must have some merit rather than possibly a conspiracy theory - well now we know what folks in Russia and China have been living with all these years - need to read how they got around their censorship. 

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