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« Reply #1320 on: May 01, 2014, 09:00:32 PM »
AMEN!

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« Reply #1321 on: May 02, 2014, 08:47:15 AM »
I loved cooking and was really creative and good for years. But with just me.. I rarely cook.. My grown children cannot believe it. They remember all of the wild stuff I used to invent and ask for it. I provide their wives with what I did to what and let them deal with it, but small children ( even my own) are not my thing.. cleaning, vacuuming, ugh.. and gardening.. not any more. I wanted and bought a house, but in a 55+ community so mostly the outside is up to them.
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« Reply #1322 on: May 02, 2014, 09:05:31 AM »
When I had to cook, I was a good cook.  Did not see any point to being half way about it.  But I hated the time and trouble given to it;  to me it did not seem proportionally gratifying.  On the other hand, gardening contains the spirit of the universe, and I miss my beautiful gardens immensely.  Consolation comes from 21 blue pots on my 2 decks.  Really, they are all I have the strength for anyway, as getting down on my knees is nigh on to impossible these days!  As for cooking, I would describe what I do as "fixing" something to eat, not cooking.  I go out to eat a lot.  At this early morning moment,  have just set out 3 eggs, some bacon, marge and English muffins.  Will place the cooked bacon (Nueske's microwaved with paper towels) on the toasted and buttered (Olivio) English muffins and placed soft boiled egg yokes (I throw away the whites;  my 2nd husband used to eat these) on top.  Yum, yum, goooood!

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« Reply #1323 on: May 02, 2014, 11:48:36 AM »
I liked it all - I loved the fresh foods - the smells and I felt joy cutting them and making them into something - I would think of the fresh earth or even the idea that flour was milled and the grain stored by farmers in those huge silos all before I had my hands on it. And then the same with waxing furniture - I would think that someone made this using their hands and if it was a assembly line manufactured item I thought of the people who figured out how to make the machinery that facilitated the assembly line - I just always felt privileged to care for something made by someone else - probably learned that from my grandmother who when she dried dishes it was as if she was polishing each spoon and plate in reverence.

And for a year and a half now I have only cooked my own food - after reading the salt and other chemicals in prepared foods it shocked me and no wonder I was flirting with high blood pressure and so now I look at all commercially prepared food as if it was poison - I eat Ezekiel bread and will use commercially prepared mayo but the rest is all fresh or plain frozen veggies. I even lost 25 pounds without doing another thing but eating fresh and getting back to what I like which is cooking in new ways these fresh foods.

I would love to grow veggies myself but the best I can do is the herbs since the deer eat everything - they will not touch the herbs.  I dry and ground and mix the herbs and give them as gifts - funny at Christmas I sent a couple packages to my grandson Chris who I understand is into cooking - he and his brother share an apartment and their other brother lives across the street - anyhow he excitably and in shock calls his mother saying Grandma sent them marijuana  - we all had a good laugh.
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« Reply #1324 on: May 03, 2014, 08:38:26 AM »
I loved baking the most and used to make all of our own bread. Bought the flour from mills who do not take out everything healthy when they grind.. There are small mills all over the south. Just me, so the only time I make bread, etc is if I am making presents.
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« Reply #1325 on: May 03, 2014, 10:38:58 AM »
I think it interesting how often i have talked to cooks who are either "cookers" OR "bakers". I like preparing food for special occasions (Thanksgiving, cook-outs, a special lunch w/ friends) but HATE the day to day drudge - always have!

I think MaryPage must be related to Margaret and Helen, doesn't their blog sound just like her? I hadn 't read it for a while, but this one on Huckabee's birth control comment is wonderful...........

http://margaretandhelen.com

I hope everybody survived the weather without being scathed by Mother Nature. She sure is angry about what we are doing to her planet.

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« Reply #1326 on: May 04, 2014, 10:18:01 AM »
Margaret and Helen do make me laugh.Talk about blunt.. but accurate.
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« Reply #1327 on: May 04, 2014, 11:13:34 AM »
I'd never heard of the Margaret and Helen blog.  Hilarious!

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« Reply #1328 on: May 04, 2014, 01:13:09 PM »
I've been keeping them in my FAVORITES list for a couple of years now, at least.  And I think it was Jean who tuned me in to them before.

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« Reply #1329 on: May 04, 2014, 01:16:50 PM »
By the way, did you catch THIS story?  Tickled me to death, but I have not heard a scosch about it on the news.  One of my sons told me about it!  Apparently, this type of news has to go by word of mouth!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/30/rick-scott-obamacare-stories_n_5239898.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

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« Reply #1331 on: May 04, 2014, 05:36:18 PM »
OH!  That is Wonderful!

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« Reply #1332 on: May 11, 2014, 04:21:42 PM »

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Editorial: Aceh’s Shariah Law Warrants Discussion
By Jakarta Globe on 06:35 pm May 11, 2014
Category Editorial, Opinion
Tags: Aceh, human rights, Shariah

Aceh has enforced a limited version of Shariah law since 2001, and the Helsinki Agreement in 2005 that brought an end to decades of bloodshed, strengthened and widened its implementation. But the recent decision by the province’s Shariah police, or Wilayatul Hisbah, to cane a woman and her lover after she was brutally raped by a mob of vigilantes has really taken the nation by surprise and shocked the international community. The people of Aceh were subjected to heavy criticism, as if they have no sense of justice and no respect for human rights.

This is not the first time the Acehnese in general have become the victim of abuses by Shariah enforcers. In 2010, for instance, three WH officers raped a 20-year-old college student detained for sitting too close to her boyfriend. Yet most, if not all, recent scandals have mistakenly and unfairly been attributed to all Acehnese, most of whom we believe to be wise, honest, friendly and hard-working people.

There should be an open discussion on the need to review the implementation of Shariah law in Aceh, because its success can be questioned. Despite the strict implementation of partial Shariah law, according to the province’s Legal Aid Foundation for Children the circulation of illegal pornographic material has been on the rise across the province. The foundation also found a growing number of child sexual abuse cases, along with rapes, drug trafficking and corruption. The province also has difficulties to attract foreign investment despite being blessed with rich natural resources.

The Helsinki Agreement was a deal between Jakarta and the Aceh Free Movement (GAM), who claimed to represent all Acehnese people. But it was part of a political game. It’s time to ask the Acehnese if they really want Shariah, as they are the ones who should live with it and face the consequences.
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« Reply #1333 on: May 11, 2014, 05:25:02 PM »
This is a dynamite book that includes stories we have not heard since the Nazi Concentration Camps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8ZxHQLA0ww

http://www.amazon.com/Sewing-Hope-Joseph-apart-together/dp/193760294X
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« Reply #1334 on: May 12, 2014, 09:04:26 AM »
Our world is getting worse with the distortions of religion..
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MaryPage

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« Reply #1335 on: May 13, 2014, 09:50:23 AM »
Repeating myself here, but read Jimmy Carter's book:  A CALL TO ACTION.

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« Reply #1336 on: May 14, 2014, 09:45:37 AM »
I have been reading about how incombants tend to be reelected.. Amazing the advantage they have.. We really need to change our way of electing.
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« Reply #1337 on: May 16, 2014, 01:52:37 PM »
The story of Jill Abramson and the New York Times is mind boggling.  
The story of the water war going on between Georgia on the one hand and Florida and Alabama on the other is all that the scientists predicted as long ago as 50 years in the past.
When Bob & I went to Canada in 2004, some Canadians told us in all seriousness that Canada is afraid the U.S. will invade them one day to get at their huge supply of water.
And Texas is suffering a terrible drought, but the oil drillers are lining the pockets of the legislature there, and they are allowing said drillers to take up to 80% of what little water they have in reserve, for FRACKING!  They are so in denial!  Barbara, if I were you I would pull up stakes and take myself elsewhere!
Oh, and we should all read Elizabeth Warren's new book!

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« Reply #1338 on: May 17, 2014, 10:44:33 AM »
new fact for me.. Paper had a tiny article on the fact that there was a period in our history that if a woman was a US citizen, and married a foreigner, she lost her citizenship.The legislature has just reinstated these women..How horrible..it must have been..
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« Reply #1339 on: May 18, 2014, 01:09:12 PM »
Yes, the Jill Abramson story is intriguing and possibly disgusting at the same time. Listening to "objective" voices, it seems the publisher said she had an "aggressive" management style, however the LONG TIME previous executive editor was said to be very much disliked and had a "mean and hostile" management style. JA has been there only about 3 yrs. Had she been counseled about her style,given an opportunity to improve?

Many of the women at the NYTs seemed to like her and were hired and promoted by her, many more then by previous editors. It sounds as tho the publisher got his feelings hurt when she brought a lawyer to the salary negotiations, poor boy. God forbid that she not be "entirely grateful" and "submissive" to him after ALL he did for her. Has no man ever consulted an atty about contract negotiations w/ the Times? Pleeaassee!

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« Reply #1340 on: May 19, 2014, 09:14:02 AM »
Considering everything, it was  amost sensible thing to do to bring a lawyer with you. Ah the joys of being the publisher and being.. KING.
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« Reply #1341 on: May 20, 2014, 11:42:17 AM »
Great blog about JA's firing.......my comment to the only comment made at the end of the blog "yeah, she definitely wasn't "grateful" enough that he had "put her" in that powerful position.

 http://nursingclio.org/2014/05/20/punishing-pushy-women-gender-and-power-in-the-newsroom/

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« Reply #1342 on: May 20, 2014, 12:36:58 PM »
Heard bits and pieces from a graduation speech Jill Abramson gave yesterday.  She sounded very upbeat, and made a crack about being in the same position as the graduates in that she was not sure about her future employment.  Hope she has SAVED more of that huge salary she got than she has spent.  Can't get over the amounts people are being paid today.  Remember when my 1st husband was making $2,600 a year when we moved into our first owned home (mortgage $64 per month P.I.T.I.) and the couple next door (my best friend, and her husband, who turned out to be my 3rd, last and best husband after my 1st and his only both died) had an income of $2,700 a year, and I envied them the extra $100!  We all aspired to 5k per year, when we'd be RICH!

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« Reply #1343 on: May 21, 2014, 09:14:22 AM »
Oh MaryPage, you do bring back memories. In 1958 when I married, he made 5200.00 a year and I made right around 3500.. and we had more money than we spent.. I marvel when I remember. Even when the Army reached out and grabbed him, we had very little money, but we were in South Carolina and our rent was 45.00 for a two bedroom apartment with a small fenced yard.
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« Reply #1344 on: May 21, 2014, 02:17:55 PM »
Yep, and bread was 19 cents and milk 12 cents with gas about 20 cents a gallon - using the inflation calculator - the combined income of $8700 in 1952 would cost $75349.29 in 2013. - Problem - unless you are a professional the average income is not 75K - here work your numbers out and see how the past stacks up against 2013  http://www.westegg.com/inflation/
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« Reply #1345 on: May 21, 2014, 06:52:47 PM »
It is such a huge relief to have SOMEONE to talk to about these things!  All of my here friends are dead and gone!  The younger generations look at me as though my memories are off the chart and I have cracked up!
When I was twelve years old, and my grandmother and I were living alone because my uncles and all had gone off to war, not to mention my parents, who had also, she would give me a quarter to go up the street to the grocer.  No carts.  No aisles.  Just a counter, where you either gave the clerk a list, which he or she filled in a cardboard box, or you were just handed the items, if only a few.  I would ask for a loaf of Wonder bread and a quart of milk.  The bread had a very large 8¢ in bright blue on each end.  Eight cents for the bread.  The milk came in a glass quart bottle with a bubble on top of the neck.  The bubble contained pure cream.  Twelve cents for the milk.  I gave the clerk my quarter, time and time and time again, and got a nickel back.  Sometimes I would sort of hang around before skedaddling up the street, but grandma wouldn't say anything.  Sometimes she felt I had been extra good and deserved a reward, and she would tell me I could spend the nickel change.  Whoopee!  I always thought about every possibility, and almost always wound up getting a creamsicle.  Remember creamsickles?  Orange sherbert around vanilla ice cream.  Yum!
I think my descendents think I am lying through my teeth about the prices!

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« Reply #1346 on: May 22, 2014, 05:03:30 AM »
When I was growing up in the London suburbs in the 1970s, there were still some shops that had everything behind the counter - but this was not always a good thing, as the mortification of having to go into the chemist and ask for sanitary towels was almost unbearable for a teenager.  When supermarkets started to sell them and Boots became self-service, I was very happy - but my mother was scandalised - 'How can anyone put THAT on the same conveyor belt as their groceries?' - it was still very much something that was never mentioned, whereas now my daughters can buy what they need anywhere and everywhere.

My mother had a similar view of tights (panty hose) - 'they'l never catch on' - well of course they did, but these days I absolutely loathe them myself, and either wear trousers or have bare legs (despite their appearance...) and in the winter I sometimes wear the 60 denier thick black ones with shorter skirts. The thin nylon ones are just horrible, I don't know how I wore them to work all those years.

And talking about things kept behind the counter, I now see that many local convenience stores - which are fundamentally self-service - have taken to keeping not only spirits & cigarettes, but also coffee behind the desk, as presumably these are the things that are most often shoplifted.

Rosemary

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« Reply #1347 on: May 22, 2014, 08:29:53 AM »
Same situation existed here.  I can remember my best friend accompanying me "up the street" to the general store to buy Kotex.  A simple blue box of pads cost twenty-five cents then.  And the store kept them behind the counter.  Each box was wrapped before hand in plain brown paper and tied with a piece of ordinary string.  Supposedly to hide what was within, but the box was SO immediately recognizable, even with the camouflauge, that we were absolutely smitten with embarrassment and dread.  
Arriving at the store, we would peer inside the large window to see who was on clerk duty at the moment.  They had a woman and a couple of men.  We would try desperately to wait until the woman was on duty and free, and then go in and whisper to her what was required and she would reach under the counter and hand over the box and we would hand over the quarter (no sales taxes in those days;  what a thing cost was what it cost) and then skedaddle back down the street, me holding said box between the two of us, hoping our skirts would hide it from most eyes.
As a left over from back in the day, I feel a frisson of horror every time I hear or see these things advertised these days, not to MENTION the even more sensitively personal stuff!  I can still, to this very day, remember the first time I saw toilet paper pitched on the TV.  I turned my head to the side and stared at the commercial in utter disbelief that standards had fallen so low!  Now!  Well, I cannot even bring myself to mention what is on there now;  but YOU know!

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« Reply #1348 on: May 22, 2014, 08:34:13 AM »
Oh,oh the memories. They brought back that horrible belt that you fastened the pad to. Ugh.. and then before panty hose, there were days when you had an kotex and that belt and regular nylons and that belt, panties, bra, slip and then thank heaven actual clothes.. Whew..
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« Reply #1349 on: May 22, 2014, 02:05:42 PM »
Shoot when I first started and I was old for starting - almost 16 - anyhow it was while at my grandmothers and she provided me with rags that had to be washed out everynight and hung on the washline behind a shirt or kitchen towel so no one would see - using a second set of rags for bedtime - not knowing any better I continued this practice for over a year till some girls were talking at school and I convinced my mother I should buy Kotex - and like all of you the embarrassment of buying a box so that I always got the small box with only 10 pads so it was not as noticeable - and then horrors of horrors after my first baby was born had impacted milk ducts and had surgery so in bed could not get what I needed - Made the list of groceries for my husband to pick up included the box of Kotex - by then I was not as embarrassed but forgot how he would feel. But he did it and we both seemed to move on
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« Reply #1350 on: May 25, 2014, 08:04:00 AM »
I had an absolutely fantastic 85th birthday yesterday, May 24th, and wake today to find myself surprisingly into my 86th year.
My fondest wish before I die, other than little personal family ones, is that the women of this world finally WAKE UP to their historical treatment as an underclass and stop being beguiled by the con men of this planet and ASSERT themselves to achieve full equality.
WE should have THAT DREAM!

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« Reply #1351 on: May 25, 2014, 12:28:49 PM »
Oh, how I hated that belt thing!  Do you remember when your father commented on "it".  There I was, sitting on the sofa, afraid I would leak, and my father says something about my becoming a woman!  I wanted to die.
Jackie
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« Reply #1352 on: May 25, 2014, 12:39:23 PM »
One more way women were shamed for being a woman - it is pervasive.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1353 on: May 25, 2014, 01:16:06 PM »
Mrs Sherlock - my father had died before I started, but my mother had no qualms about mentioning it in front of people, so yes I did want to die... She also would not let me put the used articles in the rubbish (garbage) and insisted on burning them on a sort of funeral pyre in the back garden because 'what would the dustmen think?'  - I really can't imagine what my daughters would reply if I said that to them - it wouldn't be printable....They sort themselves out and have rarely asked for any intervention on my part, though I would gladly help with purchasing, etc if they wished.

Sanitary protection used to carry VAT (sales tax) in the UK - I don't know if it still does, but I remember as a teenager writing to our local Member of Parliament about it, and mother was horrified!  Writing about that AND to a man - whatever next?

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« Reply #1354 on: May 25, 2014, 02:02:03 PM »
Well, I say, Rosemary, that you were absolutely in the right and I would have championed you on and added my name to the request.
Items which are completely necessary to each and every girl and woman's hygiene should not be taxed.  Period!

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« Reply #1355 on: May 25, 2014, 05:16:14 PM »
I recently found out there's a referendum on the November ballot in Tennessee on a proposed state constitutional amendment.  This advertisement was in this morning's paper and is the first I've seen about it from either side.  Needless to say, I'll be sending money to these folks.
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« Reply #1356 on: May 25, 2014, 05:20:51 PM »
Thanks MaryPage - I'd back my daughters on this (and most things!) too :)

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« Reply #1357 on: May 25, 2014, 06:16:35 PM »
Wow they got that ad right Maryz - I am sending it out so that others can see what can be done.
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« Reply #1358 on: May 30, 2014, 06:34:14 AM »
I tend to believe Jimmy Carter's book A CALL TO ACTION did a lot of good re making people, and most particularly newsmen, aware of the immense mistreatment of women world wide.  I tend to believe this because the bad things have been going on forever, with no public outcry.  Then his book, in which he specifies honor killings, the attitudes of owning women and women being valued much less than men, plus schoolgirls being killed or kidnapped into slavery and prostitution, plus many other horrors, was published in March, and newspeople tend to read books by ex presidents, if for no other reason than to find quotable tidbits about other famous names.  Yes, I think they read his book and were horrified at what has been going on for centuries;  and now they are emphasizing the kidnaping of schoolgirls and the honor killing of a pregnant young woman in our daily headlines.  I think President Carter's call has been heard!

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« Reply #1359 on: May 30, 2014, 07:27:15 PM »
Oh God I pray so...
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe