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« Reply #1160 on: January 14, 2010, 10:54:17 AM »

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A January Morning


~Lampman, Archibald (1861-1899)

The glittering roofs are still with frost; each worn
Black chimney builds into the quiet sky
Its curling pile to crumble silently.
Far out to westward on the edge of morn,
The slender misty city towers up-borne
Glimmer faint rose against the pallid blue;
And yonder on those northern hills, the hue
Of amethyst, hang fleeces dull as horn.
And here behind me come the woodmen's sleighs
With shouts and clamorous squeakings; might and
    main
Up the steep slope the horses stamp and strain,
Urged on by hoarse-tongued drivers--cheeks
    ablaze.
Iced beards and frozen eyelids--team to team,
With frost-fringed flanks, and nostrils jetting
    steam.

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1161 on: January 14, 2010, 05:36:51 PM »
Natural Disaster
by Jo Woodnutt

It's happened again, it always does.
Tears are pouring down my face.
Later on, ill ask God why,
But for now, only mourning.
Another disaster, with
Thousands of lives lost to the elements
We pretend to understand science
We should stop fooling ourselves
Nobody could have forecast this.
Jackie
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke

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« Reply #1162 on: January 15, 2010, 12:00:38 AM »
A Prayer seems fitting...

Haiti, Haiti: A Prayer for Haiti
            by Dr. Pamela Lightsey
 
    O God, we have been stunned once again by an event
Which seems so unnatural and yet is called "natural disaster."

We have no words to answer the "why" which we feel,
No wisdom to explain away the unexplainable areas of life.

Keep us from attributing this event as a heavenly reprimand,
Or from a certain haughtiness that tempts the distant soul.

Give us to be compassionate and gentle, servants to those in need.
Remind us of your gracious love in the midst of sorrow,
And your ability to work miracles when hope is faint.

We pray for those who suffer in Haiti even now
And for those who await rescue.
For relatives, for the children,
For mothers and fathers,
Sisters and brothers,
Grandparents, aunts and cousins.
For the survivors who question what more they might have done.
And for those who must keep on keeping on, in spite of.
For the leaders,
For those who bring aid
And those who await news.
Strengthen and encourage them we pray.

Now unto you, O God, we take the burdens of this hour and place them in your divine care.
For all you do and are doing, seen and unseen, we give thee thanks, Eternal God of All Creation.


 
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« Reply #1163 on: January 15, 2010, 08:52:12 AM »
 It's easy to see that "After Earthquake" was written by someone for whom English is not the native language. The sadness is still there, tho'.

  There is little that displays our vulnerability so thoroughly as the weather.  With all our science and technology, we are still at the mercy
of the elements.  Miss Woodnutt is quite right to remind us we have
little reason to be proud and arrogant.
  The prayer was most fitting, BARB.  Prayer continues to be needed,
as the damage itself and the limited access makes it difficult to get
people the help they need.
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« Reply #1164 on: January 16, 2010, 12:42:32 PM »
These two poets represent Haitian  poets from the early part of the 20th century, a period when black intellectuals, influenced by the poets of the Harlem Renaissance, began to question their relationship with Europe and affirm their African heritage.

Trahison
          ~Léon Laleau
 
Ce coeur obsédant, qui ne correspond
Pas à mon langage ou à mes costumes
Et sur lequel mordent, comme un crampon,
Des sentiments d’emprunt et des coutumes
D’Europe, sentez-vous cette souffrance
Et ce désespoir à nul autre égal
D’apprivoiser, avec des mots de France,
Ce coeur qui m’est venu du Sénégal?

 
Betrayal
 
This unrelenting heart, whose rhythm suits
Neither my language nor my clothing
And into which bite, like jaws of a trap,
Borrowed sentiments and European
Customs—Do you feel this suffering
This despair unlike any other
Of domesticating, with words from France,
This heart that came to me from Senegal?


Léon Laleau (1892-19??) was a Haitian diplomat, intellectual and poet. An early convert to a more authentic approach to writing than had been practised Haitian authors who followed European models, he demonstrates originality both in his affirmation of “Africanness” and his style. Laleau was one of the forerunners of the negritude movement led by Aimé Césaire, L-G Damas, and L-S Senghor.


A New Black Sermon (excerpt)

They have spit on the blackness of Your Face,
Lord, our friend, our comrade,
You who parted the locks of the prostitute's face
Like a curtain of reeds covering the spring of her tears

They have made
the rich the pharisees the landowners the bankers
They have made of the bleeding man the bloodthirsty god
          Oh, Judas, laugh,
          Oh, Judas, laugh,
Christ between two thieves like a torn flame at the height of the world
Set fire to the slaves' revolt
But Christ is today in the house of the thieves
And his arms spread out like the vast wings of a vulture in the cathedrals
And the priest in the monastery's winecellar counts the interest on thirty pieces of silver
And the church steeples spit death onto the famished multitudes
We will not pardon them, for they know what they do
They have lynched John who organized the trade union
They hunted him with dogs like a weary wolf in the woods
Laughing they hung him from the old sycamore's trunk
          No, brothers, comrades,
          We will pray no more
Our revolt rises up like the cry of the storm bird over the lapping waters of the stinking swamps
We will no longer sing our despairing spirituals
A different song springs from our mouth

We will spread our red flags
Stained with the blood of our just
          Under this banner we will march
          Under this banner we are marching
Arise ye wretched of the earth
Arise ye prisoners of starvation


Jacques Roumain (1907-1944) was a Haitian intellectual and author. As a founder of the Haitian Communist Party, he was imprisoned early in his career for his political activities, then became active in the government after the end of the American occupation of Haiti. A student of anthropology in Paris, he worked at the French Musée de L’homme for a time, and later promoted Haitian anthropological studies and research. He helped found an important literary review, La Revue Indigène, which published new writing from Haitian authors who broke with the tradition of imitating French models. He is best known for his novels, in particular Governor's of the Dew (1944), which presents a heroic perspective on the sufferings of the Haitian peasantry. This poem reflects Roumain’s revolutionary fervor and his sharp sense of social and economic injustice.

Hmmm I did not know the negative history between the US and Haiti - no wonder there is such delicacy over how we implement our assistance during this crisis.

American occupation of Haiti: American Marines entered Haiti in 1915 in order to maintain peace and help stabilize the Haitian government.  They occupied Haiti until 1934, controlling the Republic through a puppet Haitian government.
http://haitiforever.com/windowsonhaiti/am-occup.htm

Here is the story from another point of view based in American Business interests.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti
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« Reply #1165 on: January 16, 2010, 09:02:52 PM »
A Winter Tale

In the western sky a winter sun does not slowly sink
but blasts the fading sky with one last burst
of blinding light....Grateful for its rapid flight
as it disappears behind he trees and night hurries
to take its space,, A pallid moon hangs in the east
waits to take its place this winter night
A few stars on the rim of darkness
Prepare to give us sparkling beams
to add illumination to this deep dark sky
I am glad to reach my home
aglow with electric lights
my ancient  Celtic ancestors
huddled in furs of beasts
tended to a dying fire to keep the night at bay
while I cuddle in my down comfortor
and sleep through a fraudulent day
purchased by electric lights ....

anna alexander  December 2, 2006 all rights reserved

Right now we are enjoying a "WINTER BREAK" days warm enough for me to work outdoors with just a sweat shirt and jeans Of course the weather man says NEXT WEEK WILL BE COLD
Can I wish that he be wrong??  hugs to all anna

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« Reply #1166 on: January 17, 2010, 09:04:15 AM »
Powerful poems, BARB. There is so much anger there; it had to erupt.

 We're having cold and wet here, ANNA, with only brief breaks of an occasional day with sunshine and even more cold.  I found this poem
timely, and also good for my attitude.

 Rain Sounds

Frosty,
Dripping,
Dismal morning.
Errands put off one day too many.

Bank,
Cleaners,
Grocery Store.
In and out, in and out, in and out of the car.
Miserable, MISERABLE weather.

Unbridled two year old enthusiasm
undampened.
Toys
trail
us
to
the
door.

Purse thrown on my seat,
Leah plopped in her, grinning.
Umbrella uselessly sits in a puddle.

Stepping back on to a saturated lawn bestows
the first soaker of the year.

Exasperated,
Agitated,
WET,
I get into the car
shaking water off my hands
as a petite voice declares
"Mommy, I like that sound"!

So we sit quietly in the driveway and listen
to the rain.

What a great day!

Mary Fishwick  
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« Reply #1167 on: January 17, 2010, 01:16:11 PM »
Rain Sounds is a perfect message - it often takes a child to change our mood doesn't it. Fairanna I am glad you are having a winter reprieve - even nature knows we cannot stay wrapped without a break till Spring.

I have been looking into the Haitian experience starting with poetry. I always knew it was there but the most I knew it was a place of  unrest and there were boat people who were often either rescued or turned back.

I am also seeing more clearly that the best of intentions are hampered after a disaster - makes me think that each city needs a well trained emergency squad and a partnership arranged where folks willing are assigned to care for the family of the police and fire department so they can do their job with the confidence their family is taken care of by a pre-assigned group of citizens.

Here is a poem about Haiti written by Frederick Douglas...

UNTIL SHE SPOKE

Until she spoke, no Christian nation had abolished Negro slavery.

Until she spoke, no Christian nation had given to the world an organized effort to abolish slavery.

Until she spoke, the slave ship, followed by hungry sharks, greedy to devour the dead and dying slaves flung overboard to feed them, ploughed in peace the South Atlantic, painting the sea with the Negro’s blood.

Until she spoke, the slave trade was sanctioned by all the Christian nations of the world, and our land of liberty and light included.

Men made fortunes by this infernal traffic, and were esteemed as good Christians, and the standing types and representations of the Savior of the World.

Until Haiti spoke, the church was silent, and the pulpit was dumb.
Slave-traders lived and slave-traders died.

Funeral sermons were preached over them, and of them it was said that they died in the triumphs of the Christian faith and went to heaven among the just.

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1168 on: January 17, 2010, 01:18:56 PM »
haitian girl
          By Hertz Nazaire [ naz ]

eyes like early morning coffee and soft baked bread
hair like a waterfall that sprays soft mist,
and the sunlight beads its rainbow through your roots
your body a basket of mother natures' sweetest most exotic fruits...
yes as eden... all moist and screwshy parts, plump, ripe and round curves, tender and soft spots...
paradi..se
i can't help but love you, haitian girl...
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« Reply #1169 on: January 17, 2010, 01:20:45 PM »
Another helping us realize in the midst of all we are seeing there are caregivers without  uniforms or financial backing.

A Prayer for the Caregiver
          by Bruce McIntyre

Unknown and often unnoticed, you are a hero nonetheless.
For your love, sacrificial, is God at his best.
You walk by faith in the darkness of the great unknown,
And your courage, even in weakness, gives life to your beloved.

You hold shaking hands and provide the ultimate care:
Your presence, the knowing, that you are simply there.
You rise to face the giant of disease and despair,
It is your finest hour, though you may be unaware.

You are resilient, amazing, and beauty unexcelled,
You are the caregiver and you have done well!


Did y'all know there is a Caregiver magazine? The focus is on Those who take care of Individuals and not the impromptu caregiving that happens during an emergency or natural disaster.
          http://www.caregiver.com/magazine/digital/caregiver_july_august/default.html
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« Reply #1170 on: January 17, 2010, 06:06:02 PM »
Barb:  Thank you so much for the enlightenment of Haiti's poetry and history.  I must admit to feeling impatience with them that they couldn't clean up their act, get it together, little realizing how handicapped they were.  Simply giving some money seems like so little help.
Jackie
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« Reply #1171 on: January 17, 2010, 08:20:04 PM »
I must be a two-year-old at heart. before I read Mary Fishwick's poem, I had opened the back door to listen to the sound of the rain. I LOVE THAT SOUND!

The Haiti poems are very thought provoking. I will print ou the prayer for the caregiver, to give to my caregivers.

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« Reply #1172 on: January 17, 2010, 11:15:50 PM »
Poetry night at Le P'tit Resto
          ~by Mesye Lozana

This Friday night I went to Le P'tit Resto,
a Haitian restaurant in North Miami where
you can eat some fritay in company of the the greatest
poets Haiti has to offer.

I didn't plan to write so I didn't take notes.

I had my hands burried
in a plate of Griot, Bannane Peze, and Acra that my partner,
Roland Berthold, bought for our table.

Among the performers were Andre Fouad,
who had a special performance with Chandel singer, Mario Morose,  
Prosper Sylvain, Jr. a.k.a. Makendal,
Susette Morisseau Leroy a.k.a. Wanga Neges,
who recited a beautiful story with the title "Anba Lanmè".

Amongst some of the people present tonight
were Haitian movie producer Herold Israel,
Actress Farah Larrieux,
just to name a few.

The night as always is ended
by Haitian, Russell Simmons and
self proclaimed Poet of the year, Ed Lozama...
Oh... Eskize-m moun yo... Mesye Lozana!

Yeap! Friday night at Le P'tit Resto, you will definitely be in the company of stars.

Next time I go to poetry night
I will try my best to leave the Griot plate
a long and take some notes

Ou ta poste bèl fèt sa-s nan

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« Reply #1174 on: January 18, 2010, 08:54:12 AM »
 Once upon a time, BARB, those groups of helpful citizens were one's
friends and neighbors. You didn't even have to ask. Haiti had minimal
government at the best of times; none at all in the face of disaster.

  Frederick Douglass poem surprised me. I had the impression that slave
traders were regarded necessary, but hardly respectable. Certainly not
fine examples of Christianity. But that view may be hindsight. After
all, Douglass was much closer to the times.

"Naz" really had that Haitian girl on his mind, didn't he? Screwshy??
There's a word that does manage to convey an image of something soft and malleable, like a pillow.
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« Reply #1175 on: January 23, 2010, 03:25:46 AM »
LERMONTOV Cossack Lullaby
          By Alexander Pushkin

Sleep, my fine young baby
Lullabye, a-bye.
Quietly the clear moon looks down
Into your cradle
I will tell you stories,
I will sing you a song,
Sleep on, close your eyes,
Lullabye, a-bye.

The Terek runs over its rocky bed
And splashes its dark wave;
A sly brigand crawls along the bank
Sharpening his dagger;
But your father is an old warrior
Hardened in battle;
So sleep, my darling, undisturbed,
Lullaby a-bye.

The time will come, you will learn for yourself
The soldier's way of life,
Boldly you'll place your foot in the stirrup
And grasp your rifle.
Your fighting saddle I myself
Will embroider with silk
Sleep, my darling, my own one,
Lullaby a-bye.

Such a fine warrior you'll be to look at,
And a cossack in your soul.
I will watch you go, see you on your way,
And you'll wave your hand.
How many bitter tears silently
I will weep on that night when you go.
Sleep my angel, sweetly, softly,
Lullaby a-bye.
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« Reply #1176 on: January 23, 2010, 03:27:53 AM »
Zimny Vecher or Winter Evening.
          By Alexander Pushkin

The storm wind covers the sky
Whirling the fleecy snow drifts,
Now it howls like a wolf,
Now it is crying, like a lost child,
Now rustling the decayed thatch
On our tumbledown roof,
Now, like a delayed traveller,
Knocking on our window pane.

Our wretched little cottage
Is gloomy and dark.
Why do you sit all silent
Hugging the window, old gran?
Has the howling of the storm
Wearied you, at last, dear friend?
Or are you dozing fitfully
Under the spinning wheel's humming?

Let us drink, dearest friend
To my poor wasted youth.
Let us drink from grief - Where's the glass?
Our hearts at least will be lightened.
Sing me a song of how the bluetit
Quietly lives across the sea.
Sing me a song of how the young girl
Went to fetch water in the morning.

The storm wind covers the sky
Whirling the fleecy snow drifts
Now it howls like a wolf,
Now it is crying, like a lost child.
Let us drink, dearest friend
To my poor wasted youth.
Let us drink from grief - Where's the glass?
Our hearts at least will be lightened.
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« Reply #1177 on: January 23, 2010, 03:36:45 AM »
Oh Country
          by Alexander Pushkin

I
The estate in which our bored Yevgeny
Now lived, was in fact a fine retreat:
There a lover of the simpler pleasures
Would thank the heavens for his fate.
His mansion house was solitary,
Sheltered by hills in windy weather,
And  stood by a river. Stretching away
Far off the meadows were bright and gay
With flowers, and the cornfields golden.
And here was a hamlet, there another,
And cattle wandered the meadows at random,
While shade was cast both deep and wide
By a huge garden all overgrown,
For the pensive Dryads a secret home.

II
The stately mansion was built and planned
As all good mansions should really be:
Sturdily set in the peaceful land
In the refined taste of an age gone by.
All of the rooms were wide and lofty,
Silk wall paper embellished the drawing room,
And portraits of tsars hung on the walls,
The stoves were bright with ceramic tiles.
All this is nowadays somewhat passé,
Indeed, for what reason, I cannot say,
But of course for my friend, our story's hero
There was no need for these things at all,
Because he would yawn with equal distraction
At an ancient pile or a modern mansion.

III
He settled in the sitting room
Where the old-timer in his country ways
For forty years had gazed from the window
Or balled at the housekeeper, or swatted flies.
A simple room, with oaken floors,
Two cupboards, a table and a stuffed settee,
And not a single spot of ink.
Onegin opened the cupboard doors;
He found in one a book of expenses,
In another a shelf of home brewed brandy,
And apple water in an earthenware jar,
And from eighteen o eight a calendar.
The old man having such a busy life
Found that looking in books brought too much strife.

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1178 on: January 23, 2010, 09:13:11 AM »
 I'd never gotten into Pushkin's poetry, BARB.  Thanks for the introduction.  So much rich imagery, all overcast with a touch of sadness.
That seems to be a hallmark of Russian literature.  I think long winters and gray days tend to have that infuence on a people.
  That's a thought.  I wonder if anyone has ever studied that possibility?
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« Reply #1179 on: January 23, 2010, 10:02:11 AM »
 I did a little research after I left here, and while I didn't find any precise
research on my subject, I did find this quote from John Burroughs:

  "Temperament lies behind mood; behind will, lies the fate of character. Then behind both, the influence of family the tyranny of culture; and finally the power of climate and environment; and we are free, only to the extent we rise above these."
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« Reply #1180 on: January 23, 2010, 12:34:13 PM »
Babi;  That is profound.  It explains disciplines such as Sociology.
Jackie
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« Reply #1181 on: January 23, 2010, 01:01:16 PM »
Babi you found a wonderful quote with a trail of Influence on the human psyche  - I guess I am hesitant to agree - my thinking is that other nations located as far north with long winters and gray days are not known to share the same sadness as basic to their character and reflected in their literature. I think of the Scandinavian countries, Alaska and even Canada. I wonder though for Pushkin if it is more the 'Tyranny of Culture' during his lifetime.

I know the article is suggesting the Tyranny of Culture is as a result of the power of climate but I see so many Cultures that went through phases of 'Tyranny' of Culture that were in different climate areas of the world.

Just the three poems say a lot - the lullaby is confirming an infant will become a soldier who will leave the family and may not return. As I understand, the way out of desperate poverty that robs a person of any dignity is through being a soldier which says, this family must be on the edge but has achieved one step above serfdom at the price of knowing their boy babies will leave.

Then the winter poem lets us see that during these long wicked winters without industry those dependent on the land or forests for their existence are bored to the point they have what we in this country euphemistically called 'Cabin Fever'.

And then from his novel in verse, "Onegin" we learn the characteristic of some Nobles, who are benefiting from the sacrifice of both soldiers and serfs and it is difficult to see noble characteristics among those so fortunate.

Another, interpretation of this section of "Onegin" is to look at the description as representative of all Russia that at this time in history was a retreat from the horrors in Europe. During the late seventeen hundreds and early eighteen hundreds Europe was up in flames with Revolution and then Napoleon as well as, a powdercake of disruption, energy and activity as the industrial age transformed the countryside and the people. And yet, with all their seclusion Russia was lazy and did not even use its time of safety and peace to educate itself.

I look at the difference in Norway and Sweden where I think their sense of adventure on the sea helped form their national character - Finland is a nation with even less of its land within the temporate climate than Russia and without great ports so it was essentially landlocked - it too had a troubled national character that has changed as industrial development gave people a livelihood and hope.

Maybe that is it - we hear hopelessness in Pushkins poetry as he explores Russia's traditional way of life which bound people to a life filled with futility. He was considered a radical and at one point was exiled to southern Russia - we think of radical poetry filled with roar and action where as Pushkin seems to show a more nuanced picture of life with all its warts during this time in Russian history.  

For a change of pace here is one of his love poems that does bring in the very greyness Babi you bring to our attention...

A Magic Moment I Remember
          ~ Pushkin

A magic moment I remember:
I raised my eyes and you were there,
A fleeting vision, the quintessence
Of all that's beautiful and rare.

I pray to mute despair and anguish,
To vain pursuits the world esteems,
Long did I near your soothing accents,
Long did your features haunt my dreams.

Time passed. A rebel storm-blast scattered
The reveries that once were mine
And I forgot your soothing accents,
Your features gracefully divine.

In dark days of enforced retirement
I gazed upon grey skies above
With no ideals to inspire me,
No one to cry for, live for, love.

Then came a moment of renaissance,
I looked up - you again are there,
A fleeting vision, the quintessence
Of all that`s beautiful and rare.

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« Reply #1182 on: January 23, 2010, 03:13:37 PM »
Thank you for bringing us Pushkin. The saying is that "it's impossible to translate Pushkin", since so much of his genius lies in his beautiful use of Russian. But even in English, he is powerful.

I had heard about Finland that the Finns are very subject to depression, but I know little about it. The little Swedish lierature I've read (mostly detective stories) is somber in tone: do others have a different perception? 

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« Reply #1183 on: January 23, 2010, 06:11:37 PM »
Have not found any Finnish poetry translated into English yet however, most of the Norweigan and Swedish poetry seems to be these long book length sagas.

Here is the beginning of the Fridthjol Saga written by a Swedish poet, Esaias Tegne'r however, it takes place in northern Norway and the Orkney Islands. And here is a link to his bio which shows he lived the same time in history as Pushkin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esaias_Tegn%C3%A9r

FRIDTHJOF'S SAGA.
          Fridthjof and Ingeborg.

In Hilding's garden, green and fair,
Protected by his fostering care,
Two rare and stately plants were growing,
Unequaled grace and beauty showing.

The one a sturdy oak tree grew,
With lance-like stem so straight and true,
Its crown in northern tempests shaking
Like helmet plume in battle quaking.

The other like a rose sprang forth
When tardy winter leaves the north,
And spring, which in the buds lies dreaming,
Still waits with gems to set them gleaming.

Around the earth the storm-king raves,
The wrestling oak its anger braves;
The sun dissolves frost's mantle hoary,
The buds reveal their hidden glory.

So they grew up in joy and glee,
And Fridthjof was the young oak tree;
Unfolding in the vale serenely,
The rose was Ingeborg the queenly.

Saw you those two by light of day
You seem in Freyja's house to stay,
Where bride-pairs, golden-haired, were swinging,
Their way on rosy pinions winging.

But seeing them by moonlight pale
Round dancing in the leafy vale,
You'd think: The elf-king now advances,
And leads his queen in fairy dances.

How joyful 'twas, how lovely too,
When firs[ he learned his futhorc through;
No kings had e'er such honor brought them
As when to Ingeborg he taught them.

How joyously his boat would glide
With those two o'er the dark blue tide:
While he the driving sail was veering,
Her small white hands gave hearty cheering.

No bird's nest found so high a spot,
That he for her could find it not;
The eagle's nest from clouds he sundered,
And eggs and young he deftly plundered.

However swift, there ran no brook,
But o'er it Ingeborg he took;
How sweet when roaring torrents frighten,
To feel her soft arms round him tighten.

The first; spring flowers by sunshine fed,
The earliest berries turning red,
The first of autumn's golden treasure,
He proffered her with eager pleasure.

But quickly sped are childhood's days,—
There stands a youth whose ardent gaze
With pleading and with hope is laden,
And there, with budding charms, a maiden.

Young Fridthjof followed oft the chase,
Which led to many a fearful place;
With neither spear nor lance defended,
The wild bear's life he quickly ended.

When, struggling, met they breast to breast,
The hunter won, though hardly pressed,
And brought the bearskin home; such prizes,
Think you, a maiden e'er despises?

For woman values courage rare;
The brave alone deserves the fair,
Each one the other's grace completing,
As brow and helmet fitly meeting.

And when in winter evenings long,
By firelight reading, in a song,
Of fair abodes in radiant heaven

To every god and goddess given,

He thought: "Of gold is Ing'borg's hair,
A net for rose and lily fair:
Like Freyja's bounteous golden tresses,
A wheat-field which the breeze caresses.

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« Reply #1184 on: January 23, 2010, 06:22:15 PM »
Not much translated Swedish or Norwegian poetry on-line - Here is an Edith Södergran poem - She was a Finland-Swede (her mother's tongue was Swedish) - she grew up in Finland and Russia, attending a German school in St Petersburg. With the onset of World War I and the consequent revolution, she was isolated from both the cosmopolitan world of St Petersburg and her literary world of Helsinki.

Nocturne
by Edith Södergran

Silverskira månskenskväll,
nattens blåa bölja,
glittervågor utan tal
på varandra följa.
Skuggor falla över vägen,
strandens buskar gråta sakta,
svarta jättar strandens silver vakta.
Tystnad djup i sommarens mitt,
sömn och dröm, –
månen glider över havet
vit och öm.

Translation

Silverclear this moonlit eve,
blue billow of the night,
countless sparkling waves roll in,
dancing in the light.
Shadows fall upon the road,
the bushes weep so soft and sore,
dark giants guard the silver of the shore.
Silence deep in summer’s midst,
sleep and dream, –
tender moon over the ocean,
white agleam


And another...

“My Artificial Flowers”

My artificial flowers
I will send home to you.
My small bronze lions
I will set up by your door.
Myself I will sit down here on the stairway –
a lost pearl of the orient
in the big city’s roaring sea.




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« Reply #1185 on: January 24, 2010, 09:05:23 AM »
BARB, you have given the poems, and the subject, a good deal of thought. The difference between Finland and Norway/Sweden is intriguing. Perhaps the access to the sea gave the latter an outlet that prevented any sense of entrapment. Their small size may actually be an advantage, also. The bulk of Russia, before the days of the railroad, was essentially 'walled in'.
  I'm thinking of 'cabin fever', where isolated farm women were snowed
in for months. Some could not bear it, becoming ill or even insane.

 I noted this line from the Tegne'r saga: The brave alone deserves the fair,  That is a sentiment often found in romantic poetry. "Only the
brave deserve the fair."   "Faint heart ne'er won fair lady."  I wonder
who actually wrote it first.
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« Reply #1186 on: January 24, 2010, 12:44:28 PM »
Thank you, thank you, for the examples of Russian and Scandinavian poetry.  I read Eugene Onegin years ago and saw the Met opera production on PBS.  Must go back and reread in light of your observations of climate, tem[erament and culture.
It there is no Finnish poetry to give you a grasp of their soul, there is Sibelius, especially my favorete of all his works, the 2nd Symphony.  You can see the frozen blue lakes and mountains of snowy fir trees, and the northern lights.  and finland takes the prize for most beautiful nationsl anthem, Finlandia. 
It is a wide world, with so much diverse beauty, isn't it? I willprobablay never see Finland but in the closing chords of the Second Symphony I can feel it.

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« Reply #1187 on: January 24, 2010, 02:20:01 PM »
Interesting  how we talk about issues just as they hit the media - Finnland is all over the BBC news today because of it push to install fiber Optic cable for faster service, the cost and who will pay since it is the government that wants everyone on the faster service - however, the photos accompanying the story are of deep snow covered houses, fields and even window ledges deep with snow on the library windows of the University. The map accompanying the story shows Finnland not to be a landlocked as I imagined with many small islands, one in particular is where the new's crew is filming in the homes and offices of some of these islanders.

Been looking for as much Russian poetry as I can find translated into English and available on-line. Nearly all the poetry written in the 1800s  is filled with sadness and angst where as close to the 1900s and through most of the 1900s it is filled with attitudes about war, freedom and oppression. I found this one poet who wrote before Pushkin and where it is not the noble story of Gods as I find in the 1700s Swedish and Norwegian poetry it does speak about nature and is less grey, less depressive. Here is a link to the poet that includes a few of his other poems... http://web.mmlc.northwestern.edu/~mdenner/Demo/poetpage/lomonosov.htm

An Evening Reflection Upon God's Grandeur Prompted by the Great Northern Lights
          ~ written in 1743 by M.V. Lomonosov
  
 1
The day conceals its brilliant face,
And dark night covers up the fields,
Black shadows creep upon the hills,
Light's rays recede from us.
Before us gapes a well of stars -
Stars infinite, well fathomless.

2
A grain of sand in ocean swells,
A tiny glint in endless ice,
Fine ash caught in a mighty gale,
A feather in a raging fire,
So I am lost in this abyss,
Oppressed by thoughts profound.

3
The mouths of wise men call to us:
"A multitude of worlds dwell there,
Among them burning suns untold,
And peoples, and the wheel of time:
There, all of nature's strength
Exists God's glory to proclaim"

4
But where, O nature, is your law?
Dawn breaks from out of northern lands!
Is this the home of our sun's throne?
Or are the icy oceans burning?
Behold, cold fire envelops us!
Behold, now day has entered night.

5
O thou, whose lively gaze can see
Into the book of law eternal,
For whom the smallest part of things
Reveals the code in all of nature,
Thou comprehendeth planets' course,
Now tell us what disturbs our souls?

6
Why do these bright rays sparkle in the night?
Why does fine flame assault the land?
Without a thundercloud can lightning
Rise from the earth up toward the heavens?
How can it be that frozen steam
Gives birth to fire from winter's depths?

7
There, oily darkness battles water,
Or rays of sunlight sparkle bright,
Bend toward us through the thickened air;
Or do the peaks of stout hills glow,
Or have the sea winds ceased their song,
And smooth waves struck the space.

8
Regarding what lies right before us
Thine answer's full of doubts
O, tell us, how enormous is the world?
What lies beyond the smallest stars?
Are thou aware of all creation's end?
Tell us, how great is our Creator?



 
 
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« Reply #1188 on: January 25, 2010, 09:43:10 AM »
A grain of sand in ocean swells,
A tiny glint in endless ice,
Fine ash caught in a mighty gale,
A feather in a raging fire,
So I am lost in this abyss,
Oppressed by thoughts profound.


 Oh, my, wouldn't that make you feel tiny and insignificant?
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« Reply #1189 on: January 25, 2010, 09:56:09 PM »
To ***
           ~ A. Pushkin

     I still remember that amazing moment
     You have appeared before my sight
     As though a brief and fleeting omen,
     Pure phantom in enchanting light.

     Locked in depression's hopeless captive,
     In haste of clamorous processions,
     I heard your voice-- soft and attractive.
     And dreamt of your beloved expressions.

     Time passed. In gusts, rebellious and active,
     A tempest scattered my affections
     And I forgot your voice attractive,
     Your sacred and divine expressions.

     Detained in darkness, isolation,
     My days would slowly drag in strife.
     With lack of faith and inspiration,
     With lack of tears, and love and life.

     My soul attained its waking moment:
     You re-appeared before my sight,
     As though a brief and fleeting omen,
     Pure phantom in enchanting light.

     And now, my heart, in fascination
     Beats rapidly and finds revived:
     Devout faith and inspiration,
     And tender tears and love and life.

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« Reply #1190 on: January 26, 2010, 08:43:53 AM »
Hmm.  This example of Pushkin didn't seem to work as well as the others.  Was it the same translator, I wonder.  Some of the lines seemed
unclear or awkward. "Locked in depression's hopeless captive" ?
That doesn't really make sense; I suspect it's just a poor translation.

 Here's a short poem from Robert Frost that I found refreshing:

     Dust of Snow

  The way a crow
  Shook down on me
   A dust of snow
   From a hemlock tree

   Has given my heart
   A change of mood
   And saved some part
   Of a day I had rued.


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« Reply #1191 on: January 26, 2010, 07:18:46 PM »
First Babi I love the Frost poem  I remember the first time I read it I smiled, almost laughed  because my back yard year round  is filled with birds BUT in winter without the leaves to hide them I remember when like fluffy balls of color they waited in the trees for me to open my window and toss seed upon the ground and smooth a place at my window sill and cover it with seed and bits of bread ...I was glad to help them but they gave me the better gift..

All of the poems and discussions of the sadness of Haiti is so moving and the poems written about human tragedy was so moving...many of the poems spoke of places that could not be kept from Natures fury and I am moved by the output of help to those who were in its way ..but the sad thing to me is the help only comes when Nature throws a tantrum

History is FILLED with human cruelty and I often wonder why  so many are never addressed unless the ones who have been mistreated rise up ...and when Nature throws a dagger at us we do Is it because inside we really think there but for the Grace of GOd go I? Then we move to help...but why not before?

I am sitting here recovering from bronchitis and thank GOD for medicine that makes it less painful and shorter to heal  I wish I had a poem to share but the many here do serve a purpose  IT MAKES ONE THINK    GOD BLESS .. anna

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« Reply #1192 on: January 27, 2010, 01:07:28 PM »
 ANNA, I think we've all asked ourselves these questions...and long ago
given up belief that we can change the world.  A line of scripture once
caught my eye and gave me serious thought.  Jesus said, "It needs must be that evils come."  Why?
  After long thought, I came to the conclusion that if there were no evils
in the world, there would be no choices to be made. It's easy to be 'good' if there are no other options.  The only way we can discover
who we are, the only way we can gain any merit in the way we live, is
by  choosing the good over the evil.  Moses told his people, "Choose this day whom you will serve.."  It must be our choice.
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« Reply #1193 on: January 27, 2010, 04:59:26 PM »
I don't want to miss a thing
          ~ Aerosmith

I could stay awake just to hear you breathing
Watch you smile while you are sleeping
While you're far away dreaming
I could spend my life in this sweet surrender
I could stay lost in this moment forever
Every moment spent with you is a moment I treasure

Don't want to close my eyes
I don't want to fall asleep
Cause I'd miss you baby
And I don't want to miss a thing
Cause even when I dream of you
The sweetest dream will never do
I'd still miss you baby
And I don't want to miss a thing

Lying close to you feeling your heart beating
And I'm wondering what you're dreaming
Wondering if it's me you're seeing
Then I kiss your eyes
And thank God we're together
I just want to stay with you in this moment forever
Forever and ever

I don't want to miss one smile
I don't want to miss one kiss
I just want to be with you
Right here with you, just like this
I just want to hold you close
Feel your heart so close to mine
And just stay here in this moment
For all the rest of time
 

 
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« Reply #1194 on: January 27, 2010, 05:00:30 PM »
Love's Philosophy
          ~ P. Shelly

The fountains mingle with river
And the rivers with the ocean
The winds of Heaven mix forever
With a sweet emotion.

Nothing in the world is single
All things by a Law divine
In one spirit meet and mingle
Why not I with thine?

See the mountains kiss high heaven
And the waves clasp one another
No sister flower would be forgiven
If it had stained its brother.

And the sunlight clasps the Earth
And the Moon beams kiss the sea
What is all this sweet work worth
If thou kiss not me?

 
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« Reply #1195 on: January 27, 2010, 05:03:27 PM »
A.C. Пушкин 
          ~by Alexandr Pushkin

I have loved you; even now I may confess,
Some embers of my love their fire retain
but do not let it cause you more distress,
I do not want to sadden you again.
Hopeless and tonguetied, yet, I loved you dearly
With pangs the jealous and the timid know;
So tenderly I loved you- so sincerely;
I pray God grant another love you so.
 
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« Reply #1196 on: January 28, 2010, 01:09:10 AM »
Babi  good thinking..and Barbara I love the poems you posted The Shelly poem is one I have always loved IN reading some poems tonight I came across one to share...

The Snow Man

One must have a mind of winter
To regard the frost and the boughs
Of the pine-trees crusted with snow;

And have been cold a long time
To behold the junipers shagged with ice,
The spruces rough in the distant glitter

Of the January sun and not to think
Of any misery in the sound of the wind,
IN the sound of a few leaves,

Which is the sound of the land
Full of the same wind
That is blowing in the same bare place

For the listener , who listens in the snow,
And, nothing himself , beholds
Nothing that is not there and the nothing that is.

WALLACE STEVENS
1879-1955

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« Reply #1197 on: January 28, 2010, 08:14:56 AM »
Shelly's poEM is lovely, BARB, but I suspect is motives are not pure.
Sounds like a seduction to me.  ;)
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« Reply #1198 on: January 28, 2010, 10:57:36 AM »
Ah Seduction / a word unknown to me when  first I read that poem I thought it was a plea to a woman he wanted to marry ...a way of telling her how special she was...I guess I will have to read his biography !

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« Reply #1199 on: January 28, 2010, 11:14:31 AM »
Ah since I read his biography and found that Mary Shelley was his second wife after his first wife committed suicide due  to the
affair,,,

I read one of his poems written to Mary after they married and there seems to be an old fashioned word to describe how Percy felt about MARY  BESOTTEN  hope that is spelled right...