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« Reply #1360 on: March 23, 2010, 12:40:59 AM »


Cuttings


~ Michael P. Garofalo

Ahh, the wide almond groves in full white flower
Stunning in the morning sun.
Old naked Winter in
his garb of grays and browns has run.
Forsythia blooms
Come and go in the blink of a yellow Eye,
Then, suddenly, mysteriously,
Green erupts; and we sigh.



We would love you to Join us
As our hearts race to meet Spring!


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« Reply #1361 on: March 23, 2010, 12:48:29 AM »
Here is one of Auden's poems that has to do with stopping clocks. And yes, from all I read this is the poem in Four Weddings and a Funeral. I think he used that expression or maybe it was the dogs stop barking in his poem written when Yeats died.

Funeral Blues  
 
Stop all the clocks, cut off the telephone,
Prevent the dog from barking with a juicy bone,
Silence the pianos and with muffled drum
Bring out the coffin, let the mourners come.

Let aeroplanes circle moaning overhead
Scribbling on the sky the message He is Dead.
Put crepe bows round the white necks of the public doves,
Let the traffic policemen wear black cotton gloves.

He was my North, my South, my East and West,
My working week and my Sunday rest,
My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song;
I thought that love would last forever: I was wrong.

The stars are not wanted now; put out every one,
Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun,
Pour away the ocean and sweep up the woods;
For nothing now can ever come to any good.


 
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« Reply #1362 on: March 23, 2010, 12:50:26 AM »
No dogs there is only the mention of wolves

In Memory of W. B. Yeats    
          ~ by W. H. Auden  

He disappeared in the dead of winter:
The brooks were frozen, the airports almost deserted,
And snow disfigured the public statues;
The mercury sank in the mouth of the dying day.
What instruments we have agree
The day of his death was a dark cold day.

Far from his illness
The wolves ran on through the evergreen forests,
The peasant river was untempted by the fashionable quays;
By mourning tongues
The death of the poet was kept from his poems.

But for him it was his last afternoon as himself,
An afternoon of nurses and rumours;
The provinces of his body revolted,
The squares of his mind were empty,
Silence invaded the suburbs,
The current of his feeling failed; he became his admirers.

Now he is scattered among a hundred cities
And wholly given over to unfamiliar affections,
To find his happiness in another kind of wood
And be punished under a foreign code of conscience.
The words of a dead man
Are modified in the guts of the living.

But in the importance and noise of to-morrow
When the brokers are roaring like beasts on the floor of the Bourse,
And the poor have the sufferings to which they are fairly accustomed,
And each in the cell of himself is almost convinced of his freedom,
A few thousand will think of this day
As one thinks of a day when one did something slightly unusual.

What instruments we have agree
The day of his death was a dark cold day.

 
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« Reply #1363 on: March 23, 2010, 12:57:19 AM »
Here is a special poem by Mary Lee Hall, read at the funeral of Princess Diana by her eldest sister, Lady Sarah McCorquodale

Turn Again to Life

If I should die and leave you here a while,
be not like others sore undone,
who keep long vigil by the silent dust.
For my sake turn again to life and smile,
nerving thy heart and trembling hand
to do something to comfort other hearts than thine.
Complete these dear unfinished tasks of mine
and I perchance may therein comfort you.




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« Reply #1364 on: March 23, 2010, 12:59:48 AM »
ah and this one by Robert Louis Stevenson with its famous last lines.

Requiem

Under the wide and starry sky,
Dig the grave and let me lie.
Glad did I live and gladly die,
And I laid me down with a will.

This be the verse you gave for me:
Here he lies where he longed to be;
Home is the sailor, home from the sea,
And the hunter home from the hill.




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« Reply #1365 on: March 23, 2010, 09:03:46 AM »
 Oh, no, JACKIE. I've had that honor with all three of my kids.

 OOPS! I've run into that confusion before, JOANK. Here in east Texas,
LA is Louisiana. I see Barbara has posted on that, too.

 Barb, what a powerful description of dying!
 "But for him it was his last afternoon as himself,
An afternoon of nurses and rumours;
The provinces of his body revolted,
The squares of his mind were empty,
Silence invaded the suburbs,.."


 I love the Mary Hall poem. I can't think of anything more appropriate.

In view of the long, harsh winter we're having in the northeast, I thought this poem would
be timely:

To Spring
 
William Blake (1783)
 
O thou with dewy locks, who lookest down
Through the clear windows of the morning, turn
Thine angel eyes upon our western isle,
Which in full choir hails thy approach, O Spring!

The hills tell one another, and the listening
Valleys hear; all our longing eyes are turn’d
Up to thy bright pavilions: issue forth
And let thy holy feet visit our clime!

Come o’er the eastern hills, and let our winds
Kiss thy perfumèd garments; let us taste
Thy morn and evening breath; scatter thy pearls
Upon our lovesick land that mourns for thee.

O deck her forth with thy fair fingers; pour
Thy soft kisses on her bosom; and put
Thy golden crown upon her languish’d head,
Whose modest tresses are bound up for thee.
 






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Re: Poetry Page
« Reply #1366 on: March 24, 2010, 03:38:32 PM »
I love Spring Haiku, too:

The breeze
raises a hair
on the caterpillers back.

Buson (I think).

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Re: Poetry Page
« Reply #1367 on: March 25, 2010, 06:10:27 PM »
Frost in a mood:

SPRING POOLS
by Robert Frost

These pools that, though in forests, still reflect
The total sky almost without defect,
And like the flowers beside them, chill and shiver,
Will like the flowers beside them soon be gone,
And yet not out by any brook or river,
But up by roots to bring dark foliage on.
The trees that have it in their pent-up buds
To darken nature and be summer woods --
Let them think twice before they use their powers
To blot out and drink up and sweep away
These flowery waters and these watery flowers
From snow that melted only yesterday.
Jackie
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« Reply #1368 on: March 25, 2010, 06:13:11 PM »
The same mood?

VERY EARLY SPRING
by Katherine Mansfield

The fields are snowbound no longer;
There are little blue lakes and flags of tenderest green.
The snow has been caught up into the sky--
So many white clouds--and the blue of the sky is cold.
Now the sun walks in the forest,
He touches the bows and stems with his golden fingers;
They shiver, and wake from slumber.
Over the barren branches he shakes his yellow curls.
Yet is the forest full of the sound of tears....
A wind dances over the fields.
Shrill and clear the sound of her waking laughter,
Yet the little blue lakes tremble
And the flags of tenderest green bend and quiver.
Jackie
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« Reply #1369 on: March 25, 2010, 06:17:33 PM »
The frontier between winter and spring:

SPRING THUNDER
by Mark van Doren

Listen, The wind is still,
And far away in the night --
See! The uplands fill
With a running light.

Open the doors. It is warm;
And where the sky was clear--
Look! The head of a storm
That marches here!

Come under the trembling hedge--
Fast, although you fumble...
There! Did you hear the edge
of winter crumble
Jackie
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« Reply #1370 on: March 26, 2010, 02:25:21 AM »
Interesting Jackie how these poets share a similar vision using a few of the same words and yet, each poem is so different than the other. I do like especially the Van Doren Spring Thunder - although it reminds me less of thunder and more of a romantic description of winter breaking into spring. The lines that caught my breath

There! Did you hear the edge
of winter crumble
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« Reply #1371 on: March 26, 2010, 02:35:23 AM »
Can you believe in another week it is April - here is an appropriate poem...

The West Wind
          ~ by John Masefield

IT'S a warm wind, the west wind, full of birds' cries;
I never hear the west wind but tears are in my eyes.
For it comes from the west lands, the old brown hills.
And April's in the west wind, and daffodils.

It's a fine land, the west land, for hearts as tired as mine,
Apple orchards blossom there, and the air's like wine.
There is cool green grass there, where men may lie at rest,
And the thrushes are in song there, fluting from the nest.

"Will ye not come home brother? ye have been long away,
It's April, and blossom time, and white is the may;
And bright is the sun brother, and warm is the rain,--
Will ye not come home, brother, home to us again?

"The young corn is green, brother, where the rabbits run.
It's blue sky, and white clouds, and warm rain and sun.
It's song to a man's soul, brother, fire to a man's brain,
To hear the wild bees and see the merry spring again.

"Larks are singing in the west, brother, above the green wheat,
So will ye not come home, brother, and rest your tired feet?
I've a balm for bruised hearts, brother, sleep for aching eyes,"
Says the warm wind, the west wind, full of birds' cries.

It's the white road westwards is the road I must tread
To the green grass, the cool grass, and rest for heart and head,
To the violets, and the warm hearts, and the thrushes' song,
In the fine land, the west land, the land where I belong.
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« Reply #1372 on: March 26, 2010, 08:15:43 AM »
 Four beautiful poems by four of the best.  Thank you so much.
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« Reply #1373 on: March 26, 2010, 12:04:36 PM »
Reviewing the past couple of days poem offerings and Babi I thought to look up William Blake to see if he had accompanied the To Spring poem you shared with any art work - didn't find art work but did find he wrote another poem about Spring where as the one you shared is To Spring.

Here is William Blake's

Spring  

Sound the flute!
Now it’s mute.
Birds delight
Day and night.
Nightingale
In the dale,
Lark in the sky,
Merrily,
Merrily, merrily to welcome in the year.

Little boy
Full of joy,
Little girl
Sweet and small.
Cock does crow,
So do you.
Merry voice,
Infant noise,
Merrily, merrily to welcome in the year.

Little lamb
Here I am
Come and lick
My white neck.
Let me pull
Your soft wool.
Let me kiss
Your soft face,
Merrily, merrily we welcome in the year.


Also, reading about his life and his art I had no idea that his art were these tiny drawings - some only an inch high that he did on copper plate etchings and his wife is the one who colored them.

 
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Re: Poetry Page
« Reply #1374 on: March 26, 2010, 12:08:16 PM »
Quote
I've a balm for bruised hearts, brother, sleep for aching eyes,

How many times has my heart been bruised, my eyes ached?
Jackie
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« Reply #1375 on: March 26, 2010, 08:13:31 PM »
March haiku
 
March is vanishing
with the leafless winter trees
- each week is greener

Peter S. Quinn
Jackie
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« Reply #1376 on: March 27, 2010, 08:43:57 AM »
 We had gotten not only greener grass but redbuds and ornamental pears blooming. Then
the cold rudely returned and many of those blossoms disappeared. (sigh)

 Here's a quote I appreciate:

   I frequently tramped eight or ten miles through the deepest snow
to keep an appointment with a beech-tree,
or a yellow birch, or an old acquaintance among the pines.
Henry David Thoreau,  1817 - 1862

 

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« Reply #1377 on: March 27, 2010, 12:25:11 PM »
 Lovely memory that you raised Babi - we read Thoreau's Walden back when we were with SeniroNet - it is a  book that can be easily read many times and each time another sentence says more than an earlier read. There are many bits of the book but vivid was a story of his watching ants - he notices a large black ant battling with a smaller red ant. Looking more closely, he sees that it is actually part of a large conflict pitting an army of black ants against an army of red ants twice its number, but whose soldiers are half the size of the black army. Thoreau meditates on its resemblance to human wars, and concludes that the ants are just as fierce and spirited as human soldiers. The ant battles remind him of the legions of Myrmidons. Of course I had to look up Myrmidons and learned they were the supporters of Achilles during the Trojan Wars.

I often wondered after reading his chapter on Spring; where he describes the thundering of the pond as air bubbles are released because of the sun melting the ice from the underside in addition to the ice melting from direct sunlight, I wondered if the thundering sound of ponds melting is still heard in the north where ponds freeze over the winter months or is there so much housing that the sound is not an event because of the sound of traffic etc. overwhelms. I am assuming the ponds still thunder just the sound may no longer be heard by those living near a pond.

Here you go Jackie, a couple of translations of the Matsuo Bashô Haiku about ponds and frogs.

Old pond — frogs jumped in — sound of water.

A lonely pond in age-old stillness sleeps . . .
Apart, unstirred by sound or motion . . . till
Suddenly into it a lithe frog leaps


I love this translation by Allen Ginsberg

The old pond
A frog jumped in,
Kerplunk!


Oh and this is funny - by Alfred H. Marks

There once was a curious frog
Who sat by a pond on a log
And, to see what resulted,
In the pond catapulted
With a water-noise heard round the bog.
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« Reply #1378 on: March 27, 2010, 12:30:30 PM »
I looked to see if Allen Ginsberg had any poem that was rooted in Spring - couldn't find anything but did find this one which is one of his shorter poems.

New Stanzas for Amazing Grace
          ~ by Allen Ginsberg

I dreamed I dwelled in a homeless place
Where I was lost alone
Folk looked right through me into space
And passed with eyes of stone

O homeless hand on many a street
Accept this change from me
A friendly smile or word is sweet
As fearless charity

Woe workingman who hears the cry
And cannot spare a dime
Nor look into a homeless eye
Afraid to give the time

So rich or poor no gold to talk
A smile on your face
The homeless ones where you may walk
Receive amazing grace

I dreamed I dwelled in a homeless place
Where I was lost alone
Folk looked right through me into space
And passed with eyes of stone
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« Reply #1379 on: March 27, 2010, 05:56:49 PM »
The little South Boston nun who taught me fresheman English loved Robert Frost so much; at this time of year she liked to declaim :
"Come with rain thou loud southwestah!
Bring the singah!  Bring the nestah!

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« Reply #1380 on: March 27, 2010, 06:42:58 PM »
Frost is my favorite, too.   This Dickinson verse baffles me

Absent Place -- an April Day --
by Emily Dickinson

Absent Place -- an April Day --
Daffodils a-blow
Homesick curiosity
To the Souls that snow --

Drift may block within it
Deeper than without --
Daffodil delight but
Him it duplicate --
Jackie
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« Reply #1381 on: March 28, 2010, 08:28:17 AM »
Barb, Myrmidons are an apt analogy for the ants. Not only were they the
supporters of Achilles, they had a reputation for unquestioning
obedience to orders. The term is still used for people who do that
for their employers. Such as politicians and gangsters. :-X

 I've never seen that Dickinson poem before, JACKIE. Sorry, it baffles
me, too.  ???
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« Reply #1382 on: March 29, 2010, 04:09:36 PM »
Robert Frost's "Two Tramps in Mud Time" is too long to post but this verse is too good to pass up.

The sun was warm but the wind was chill.
You know how it is with an April day
When the sun is out and the wind is still,
You’re one month on in the middle of May.
But if you so much as dare to speak,
A cloud comes over the sunlit arch,
A wind comes off a frozen peak,
And you’re two months back in the middle of March.
Jackie
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« Reply #1383 on: March 30, 2010, 02:15:35 AM »
I love it - here is a link to the entire Frost poem http://www.etymonline.com/poems/tramps.htm

OK here is my take on the poem  

Absent Place -- an April Day --
Daffodils a-blow
Homesick curiosity
To the Souls
That much says to me the absent place is someplace where the "soul" exists with a memory of the April Day where Daffodils blow - the only place I can think of is where ever we go upon death.

               that snow --

Drift may block within it
Read as a sentence with no period after snow or after the two "--" but there is a period after "it". Frost uses the word, "within" - a snow drift is freezing cold and the cold is a block within.

Deeper than without --
Says to me make a mind leap because, how can anything be deep "without" except maybe thoughts - OK if it is thoughts the deep place he is speaking about that is blocked by cold has to be a place where even thoughts are blocked - again, death seems the only possibility.

Daffodil delight but
Him it duplicate --
Confusing phrase however what I get is "Deeper than without" the "Daffodil delight" - as an April day memory -

"But" used here could easily be considered meaning "save". (Meaning of save (preposition) except; besides; but.) -

Now for the big question - since it is the end of the poem the last line would be the turn or punch line - and so, How do we understand the "Him" - OK who is the "Him" - could "Him" be God that duplicates the daffodil - that thought makes sense but the way the line is written I am not sure exactly what it means - we are assuming "Him" is the subject and "it" is the object - as if it said 'Him duplicate it.'

We know that "duplicate" is an action verb - however, if we switch and make "Him" the object and "it" the subject the phrase seems to be saying that the "Him" can duplicate "it" meaning the daffodil or the switch, "it" meaning the daffodil can duplicate "Him" -

Either way we agree, no one has ever seen God and we give God the power to create everything that ever was and ever will be. Therefore, the Daffodil, if not directly God is certainly a bit of His handiwork and by God's Handiwork He is known therefore, the daffodil could be Handiwork of God or the daffodil could be a duplicate of a frozen memory of God.

Quote from the Bible - Romans 1:19-20, "For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made."

Then for the other perspective, we have Thomas Aquinas writing a long dissertation on memory and  intelligence where he suggests that within each of us is a natural pull towards God.  Aquinas believed that "several sensations grouped together would create a memory, and that many memories grouped together equal sense experience. Sense knowledge is only understandable by the action of the intellect. Knowledge begins in sense and is completed in the intellect."

He writes, "Belief occurs through faith... Objects of belief deal with divine matters which exceed man's cognitive capabilities."

All to say, Aquinas' belief supports the idea that there is a sense knowledge that is beyond our cognitive understanding and could be re-activated upon death when we are again in the presence of God therefore, the daffodil as a memory after death along with the blowing could be duplicating God.

Without adding more quotes and research to this post there is the whole issue of the air being God as our breath, our first breath and our last breath is God and given reverence in the Om sound prayed by Tibetian monks.

Most agree that Dickinson used her Transcendental beliefs in her poetry - which includes submission to an interior God which is reached by meditation through the surrender of the breath - http://itech.fgcu.edu/faculty/wohlpart/alra/edidwell.htm

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« Reply #1384 on: March 30, 2010, 02:54:47 AM »
This is long but so appropriate...

The End Of March
          ~ by Elizabeth Bishop
                For John Malcolm Brinnin and Bill Read: Duxbury

               
It was cold and windy, scarcely the day
to take a walk on that long beach
Everything was withdrawn as far as possible,
indrawn: the tide far out, the ocean shrunken,
seabirds in ones or twos.
The rackety, icy, offshore wind
numbed our faces on one side;
disrupted the formation
of a lone flight of Canada geese;
and blew back the low, inaudible rollers
in upright, steely mist.

The sky was darker than the water
--it was the color of mutton-fat jade.
Along the wet sand, in rubber boots, we followed
a track of big dog-prints (so big
they were more like lion-prints). Then we came on
lengths and lengths, endless, of wet white string,
looping up to the tide-line, down to the water,
over and over. Finally, they did end:
a thick white snarl, man-size, awash,
rising on every wave, a sodden ghost,
falling back, sodden, giving up the ghost...
A kite string?--But no kite.

I wanted to get as far as my proto-dream-house,
my crypto-dream-house, that crooked box
set up on pilings, shingled green,
a sort of artichoke of a house, but greener
(boiled with bicarbonate of soda?),
protected from spring tides by a palisade
of--are they railroad ties?
(Many things about this place are dubious.)
I'd like to retire there and do nothing,
or nothing much, forever, in two bare rooms:
look through binoculars, read boring books,
old, long, long books, and write down useless notes,
talk to myself, and, foggy days,
watch the droplets slipping, heavy with light.
At night, a grog a l'américaine.
I'd blaze it with a kitchen match
and lovely diaphanous blue flame
would waver, doubled in the window.
There must be a stove; there is a chimney,
askew, but braced with wires,
and electricity, possibly
--at least, at the back another wire
limply leashes the whole affair
to something off behind the dunes.
A light to read by--perfect! But--impossible.
And that day the wind was much too cold
even to get that far,
and of course the house was boarded up.

On the way back our faces froze on the other side.
The sun came out for just a minute.
For just a minute, set in their bezels of sand,
the drab, damp, scattered stones
were multi-colored,
and all those high enough threw out long shadows,
individual shadows, then pulled them in again.
They could have been teasing the lion sun,
except that now he was behind them
--a sun who'd walked the beach the last low tide,
making those big, majestic paw-prints,
who perhaps had batted a kite out of the sky to play with.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1385 on: March 30, 2010, 08:55:03 AM »
 BARB, I do admire your exegesis on the Dickinson poem. Frankly, my own
thought was that she was 'under the influence' and couldn't say exactly
what she was trying to say. But of course, if that were true, she wouldn't
have kept the result, would she?
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« Reply #1386 on: March 30, 2010, 12:30:09 PM »
That puzzled me, too.  Why was this poem preserved?  There must be more to it than I could discern but it was too subtle for me.  A magnificent analysis, Barb.  Thank you.

I do like the imagery in Bishop's poem.  She invites me to smell the salt air, feel the wind, the sun, wonder at the paw prints and kite string.  And the house, bleak as it sounds, is seductively calling me to become one with it.  I'll want to read more of Bishop's works.
Jackie
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« Reply #1387 on: March 30, 2010, 07:16:43 PM »
I was looking in my poetry collection for a Bishop poem to post, and found this instead. I don't remember where I got it -- maybe from this site:

Al Young

Sea Level
1. Even a hair
when you bend closely
to look at it on the beach
beams read & yellow & blue
& green the very way
prisms imprison light
& break it up into colors
It all seems to be
a matter of getting down
close enough to look
& see what is & what isn't
Sea level is where we
mostly don't live
yet under the cloud-bright sky
next to the endless sea
next to the endless ocean
we see on the level
& blending vision oceanic
with the shy horizon
the distances shorten
& the moments lengthen
rather after the manner
of sand that doesn't know
it's sand all by itself
but only when a billion grains
gather together in its name
Let white light flame
into every color it wishes
Just give us the power to see






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« Reply #1388 on: March 30, 2010, 07:19:51 PM »
Words to live by
Quote
Just give us the power to see
Jackie
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« Reply #1389 on: March 30, 2010, 07:19:58 PM »
And here's Bishop, but not the one I was looking for:

Elizabeth Bishop - Sandpiper   
1.

The roaring alongside he takes for granted,
and that every so often the world is bound to shake.
He runs, he runs to the south, finical, awkward,
in a state of controlled panic, a student of Blake.
 


The beach hisses like fat. On his left, a sheet
of interrupting water comes and goes
and glazes over his dark and brittle feet.
He runs, he runs straight through it, watching his toes.
 


--Watching, rather, the spaces of sand between them
where (no detail too small) the Atlantic drains
rapidly backwards and downwards. As he runs,
he stares at the dragging grains.
 


The world is a mist. And then the world is
minute and vast and clear. The tide
is higher or lower. He couldn't tell you which.
His beak is focussed; he is preoccupied,
 


looking for something, something, something.
Poor bird, he is obsessed!
The millions of grains are black, white, tan, and gray
mixed with quartz grains, rose and amethyst.


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« Reply #1390 on: March 31, 2010, 09:04:09 AM »
I really like the Al Young poem, JOAN. I think I know the feeling he is
describing.

"..a state of controlled panic, a student of Blake."
  ;) Oh, my. what is she saying about Blake?

 Here's another Frost I like:

Tree at my Window
by Robert Frost

Tree at my window, window tree,
 My sash is lowered when night comes on;
 But let there never be curtain drawn
 Between you and me.

 Vague dream-head lifted out of the ground,
 And thing next most diffuse to cloud,
 Not all your light tongues talking aloud
 Could be profound.

 But tree, I have seen you taken and tossed,
 And if you have seen me when I slept,
 You have seen me when I was taken and swept
 And all but lost.

 That day she put our heads together,
 Fate had her imagination about her,
 Your head so much concerned with outer,
 Mine with inner, weather.    
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« Reply #1391 on: March 31, 2010, 11:33:31 AM »
Oh, Babi, That one is a treasure.  I've never read it and I thought I had read all of Frost.  Thank you,
Jackie
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« Reply #1392 on: March 31, 2010, 02:14:32 PM »
A treat - Two Gems -

I like the Sandpiper and see the antics of the Sandpiper as a metaphor to most of us as we go through life looking for something while we are surrounded with colors and the precious, made so by beauty and scarcity.

The Robert Frost, like you Jackie, I do not remember ever reading it - the last word 'weather' describing our inner concerns is wonderful...!  

Today is a grand Spring day. The new leaves a lighter green against a sky which is so blue it almost looks unreal. Opening the patio door to look out it is scary unreal, pinch yourself are you still dreaming unreal.

Went for a short walk last night rather than watch the news. What a treat. The moon is full, big and bright shining so much light there were shadows from the trees on the sidewalk.

Here is a poem about the moon and its shadow by Li Po who lived 701 - 762 and who is considered one of China's greatest premodern poets.

Three—With the Moon and His Shadow  
  
With a jar of wine I sit by the flowering trees.
I drink alone, and where are my friends?
Ah, the moon above looks down on me;
I call and lift my cup to his brightness.
And see, there goes my shadow before me.
Ho! We're a party of three, I say,—
Though the poor moon can't drink,
And my shadow but dances around me,
We're all friends to-night,
The drinker, the moon and the shadow.
Let our revelry be meet for the spring time!

I sing, the wild moon wanders the sky.
I dance, my shadow goes tumbling about.
While we're awake, let us join in carousal;
Only sweet drunkenness shall ever part us.
Let us pledge a friendship no mortals know,
And often hail each other at evening
Far across the vast and vaporous space!

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1393 on: April 01, 2010, 08:53:16 AM »
 A lovely poem, BARB, but I can't help thinking Li Po had a drinking problem, and his drinking,
singing and dancing by moonlight probably disturbed his neighbors no end.  ;)
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« Reply #1394 on: April 01, 2010, 09:19:32 AM »
I have missed you ....Easter Sunday will be a year since my friend and companion left for a far better place than we hold dear...Winter has been so cruel to most of the world this year.. and being locked in with snow and ice has frustrated all I know... I leave a couple of weeks from now for a month in California  My youngest brother lives in Sacramento and they are having a family reunion as the youngest and last grandson graduates from High School so I shall be there  Also in San Francisco to see my youngest who is temporally residing there  If any one lives in those areas let me know and perhaps we can meet ..

My many thanks to Barbara for keeping this going...and for the contributions of all...I keep feeling I will heal enough and am hoping this trip by train will allow that to happen.  I haven't been writing or reading a lot lately ..there is a lot of work getting ready to leave for such a long time..Looking for another poem I found some haiku's I wrote for a poetry assignment in /98 it was spring and so this is about that time but as I added to the top of my paper  haiku is too terse for gabby me ..but perhaps you will enjoy them

and this was true this year

Winter wind scours
frozen frigid frosted land
Spring  cringes

Spring rains
Semen for the birth
Of eager earth

Winter  moon
Polished pewter plate
Frozen light

Doves beak to beak
Carry straw to the fragrant fir
Homesteading

and my favorite

Dandelions ignorant
Do not know they are a weed
They just breed

MY PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU AND HOPES THAT THIS WILL BE A WONDERFUL SPRING FOR ALL  HAPPY EASTER AND A GLORIOUS DAY ALWAYS ..anna

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« Reply #1395 on: April 01, 2010, 09:30:38 AM »
Anna:  Lovely haiku.  Thank you for thinking of us.  We are missing you, our chorus sounds flat with your lovely voice silenced by grief.  All your friends, past and present, are standing by, eager to help you along your journey.
Jackie
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« Reply #1396 on: April 01, 2010, 09:36:55 AM »
God Speed Fairanna - hope you have a wonderful time and the trip goes well.

Here is a 'listening' poem; a skill that most who write use to reflect the universe in terms of the human condition.  To you Fairanna one of our 'listeners'.

The Listeners
          -- Walter de la Mare
 
'Is there anybody there?' said the Traveller,
Knocking on the moonlit door;
And his horse in the silence champed the grasses
Of the forest's ferny floor:
And a bird flew up out of the turret,
Above the Traveller's head
And he smote upon the door again a second time;
'Is there anybody there?' he said.
But no one descended to the Traveller;
No head from the leaf-fringed sill
Leaned over and looked into his grey eyes,
Where he stood perplexed and still.
But only a host of phantom listeners
That dwelt in the lone house then
Stood listening in the quiet of the moonlight
To that voice from the world of men:
Stood thronging the faint moonbeams on the dark stair,
That goes down to the empty hall,
Hearkening in an air stirred and shaken
By the lonely Traveller's call.
And he felt in his heart their strangeness,
Their stillness answering his cry,
While his horse moved, cropping the dark turf,
'Neath the starred and leafy sky;
For he suddenly smote on the door, even
Louder, and lifted his head:-
'Tell them I came, and no one answered,
That I kept my word,' he said.
Never the least stir made the listeners,
Though every word he spake
Fell echoing through the shadowiness of the still house
From the one man left awake:
Ay, they heard his foot upon the stirrup,
And the sound of iron on stone,
And how the silence surged softly backward,
When the plunging hoofs were gone.

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1397 on: April 01, 2010, 10:01:42 AM »
What a vivid picture he paints with so few words.  The cadence reminded me of Noyes' The Highwayman, the nameless horseman futilely knocking is so clear.  This is one I will long remember.
Jackie
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« Reply #1398 on: April 01, 2010, 10:45:50 AM »
We are so close to changing the page I want to change it this morning while I am online - so here are two posts to get us to the magic number.

Spring Rain
          ~ Sara Teasdale -

I thought I had forgotten,
 But it all came back again
To-night with the first spring thunder
 In a rush of rain.

I remembered a darkened doorway
 Where we stood while the storm swept by,
Thunder gripping the earth
 And lightning scrawled on the sky.

The passing motor busses swayed,
 For the street was a river of rain,
Lashed into little golden waves
 In the lamp light's stain.

With the wild spring rain and thunder
 My heart was wild and gay;
Your eyes said more to me that night
 Than your lips would ever say. . . .

I thought I had forgotten,
 But it all came back again
To-night with the first spring thunder
 In a rush of rain.

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1399 on: April 01, 2010, 10:48:02 AM »
Matsuo Basho

Spring rain

Spring rain
leaking through the roof
    dripping from the wasps' nest.

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe