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roshanarose

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« Reply #1600 on: June 29, 2010, 10:44:24 PM »
Celebrate Summer With Us!
The Poetry Page.
Our haven for words that open our hearts.



In The Summer
by Nizar Qabbani

In the summer
I stretch out on the shore
And think of you
Had I told the sea
What I felt for you,
It would have left its shores,
Its shells,
Its fish,
And followed me.



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Sorry roshanarose - this happens to the best of us - the heading must be inserted in the first post of the page - I tried to fix the photos you are trying to share and I cannot get it to come up - this site does not use HTTP and I  believe the photo has to be changed into a link to this site - also the 500 by 368 is going to take too many bites for us so I tried to make it smaller so it will better fit the bits this site will take - however I still cannot get it to come up therefore, I removed the HTTP commands hoping that it will serve as a link


http://www.flickr.com/photos/roxanataj/1818513027/ title="Samos - Pythagorio Limani by karahaz, on Flickr" http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2168/1818513027_bf49effdf6.jpg" width="375" height="276" alt="Samos - Pythagorio Limani/

This beautiful harbour is at a place called Pythagorio, on the Greek island of Samos.  You may have guessed that it is the birthplace of Pythagorus.  Such beauty deserves a very special poem.

Blue, silken water.  The pink place on the hill is where I want to stay next time I visit.

. . . about the cool water
the wind sounds through sprays
of apple, and from the quivering leaves
slumber pours down. . . .

Sappho: 600BC
How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?  - Plato

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« Reply #1601 on: June 30, 2010, 12:11:00 AM »
Welcome roshanarose - the posts are switched because I had to insert the heading in the first post on the page -

Sounds like you had a heady experience teaching abroad in the home of our earliest poets - and to have influenced these Girls to Tears   using your second language - what a thrill.

The poem your brought to us is wispy and sublime - a poem that takes being still after reading it to let it wash over us. Thanks.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1602 on: June 30, 2010, 01:00:29 PM »
Barb: 
Quote
a poem that takes being still after reading it to let it wash over us
says it so well.  Maybe that is part of the reason why not everyone loves poetry like we do, they can't 'be still'.
Jackie
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke

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« Reply #1603 on: June 30, 2010, 02:25:28 PM »
On a Lark I thought I would research and find some poems with the words 'be still' - yes, there is the psalm about being still and all the promises from God - however, so many religions incorperate a practice of stillness that it is beyond religion -

In today's world it is more difficult to wake up to stillness - I remember when I was little - we woke up hearing birds and every move my mother made in the kitchen - we went out to play and heard the wind - we didn't have a radio till the Christmas before my 6th Birthday - I received the radio from Santa and I realize now my mother seldom listened to it.

I remember the lady next door had a radio at least the summer before because with windows opened we could hear around the noon hour for at least an hour the soaps along with all the jingles about Duz, Rinso, Oxidol and Ivory Flakes and the theme songs for 'The Guiding Light' and Doc something or other oh yes, and The Romance of Helen Trent'

How easy to move away from stillness - even our instinctive thoughts travel to sounds - but here are a few poems about stillness. Let's start off with our dear South  American friend Pablo Neruda

I Like For You To Be Still
          ~ by Pablo Neruda

I like for you to be still
It is as though you are absent
And you hear me from far away
And my voice does not touch you
It seems as though your eyes had flown away
And it seems that a kiss had sealed your mouth
As all things are filled with my soul
You emerge from the things
Filled with my soul
You are like my soul
A butterfly of dream
And you are like the word: Melancholy

I like for you to be still
And you seem far away
It sounds as though you are lamenting
A butterfly cooing like a dove
And you hear me from far away
And my voice does not reach you
Let me come to be still in your silence
And let me talk to you with your silence
That is bright as a lamp
Simple, as a ring
You are like the night
With its stillness and constellations
Your silence is that of a star
As remote and candid

I like for you to be still
It is as though you are absent
Distant and full of sorrow
So you would've died
One word then, One smile is enough
And I'm happy;
Happy that it's not true

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1604 on: June 30, 2010, 02:26:41 PM »
Be Still My Heart!
          ~ by Robert Gardiner

Be Still My Heart!!!

I can feel its' rapid pace.
Excitement, it has come over me.
I'm flushed, all in the face.
Your rapture, it has taken hold of me;
And this Euphoria, I don't think it'll ever stop.
Be Still, Be Still, my fluttering heart,
For, we don't want to give the fact away
that we're head over heel, going, absolutely, crazy,
for that smile she might give, the kind words she might say,
for that moment, when time, just, stills, and we look at her face,
falling, into her, slowly, breathing her, into our soul,
taking in her essence, for, any piece of her we can hold,
capture, it is, most precious to us.
We cannot let her see the fervor, veracity, of our love;
So, be still, my heart, thus, that we may hide
the volume, of our love, the feelings inside.
Be still my heart; Close your eyes,
Be Still! Be Still! Be Still...
 
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1605 on: June 30, 2010, 02:28:55 PM »
Be Still, My Soul, Be Still 
          ~ Alfred Edward Housman
 
  Be still, my soul, be still; the arms you bear are brittle,
Earth and high heaven are fixt of old and founded strong.
Think rather,-- call to thought, if now you grieve a little,
The days when we had rest, O soul, for they were long.

Men loved unkindness then, but lightless in the quarry
I slept and saw not; tears fell down, I did not mourn;
Sweat ran and blood sprang out and I was never sorry:
Then it was well with me, in days ere I was born.

Now, and I muse for why and never find the reason,
I pace the earth, and drink the air, and feel the sun.
Be still, be still, my soul; it is but for a season:
Let us endure an hour and see injustice done.

Ay, look: high heaven and earth ail from the prime foundation;
All thoughts to rive the heart are here, and all are vain:
Horror and scorn and hate and fear and indignation--
Oh why did I awake? when shall I sleep again?

 
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1606 on: June 30, 2010, 02:38:52 PM »
Be Still. The Hanging Gardens were a Dream
          ~ by Trumbull Stickney
 
Be still. The Hanging Gardens were a dream
That over Persian roses flew to kiss
The curlèd lashes of Semiramis.
Troy never was, nor green Skamander stream.
Provence and Troubadour are merest lies
The glorious hair of Venice was a beam
Made within Titian’s eye. The sunsets seem,
The world is very old and nothing is.
Be still. Thou foolish thing, thou canst not wake,
Nor thy tears wedge thy soldered lids apart,
But patter in the darkness of thy heart.
Thy brain is plagued. Thou art a frighted owl
Blind with the light of life thou ’ldst not forsake,
And Error loves and nourishes thy soul.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1607 on: June 30, 2010, 02:40:03 PM »
ahhh from our newly found Indian poet that Babi introduced us to...

There is a point where in the mystery of existence contradictions meet; where movement is not all movement and stillness is not all stillness; where the idea and the form, the within and the without, are united; where infinite becomes finite, yet not.

~ Rabindranath Tagore ~
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1608 on: June 30, 2010, 02:42:02 PM »
This may not be titled Stillness but it is as close to stillness as I have found so far.

Go Deeper
          ~ by Chris McCombs

Go deeper

Past thought
Into silence
Past silence
Into stillness

Deeper still
Past stillness
Into the Heart

Now
Let the Love
Consume
Whatever is left of you
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1609 on: July 01, 2010, 12:55:04 AM »
Thanks for the words of advice and the beautiful "still" poetry, Barb.
How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?  - Plato

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« Reply #1610 on: July 01, 2010, 12:56:23 AM »
Barb: Nothing satisfies like poetry,  These are all special but I like the Houseman, he is one of my favorites.  Can you imagine what it would be like to be loved by an articulate man like Neruda?  My ex was typically taciturn; maybe as a result I find male voices especially sexy.
Jackie
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« Reply #1611 on: July 01, 2010, 12:38:57 PM »
Phyllis McGinley wrote this during WWII
After listening to a BBC broadcast

Ballad of Fine Days

“temperatures have soared to almost summer levels,
Making conditions ideal for bombing offensives…
-BBC news

All in the summery weather,
   To east and south and north,
The bombers fly together
   And the fighters squire them forth.

While the lilac bursts in flower
   And buttercups brim with gold
Hour by lethal hour
   Now fiercer buds unfold.

For the storms of springtime lessen,
   The meadow lures the bee,
And there blooms tonight in Essen
   What bloomed in Coventry.

All in the summery weather,
   Fleeter than swallows fare,
The bombers fly together
   Through the innocent air.

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« Reply #1612 on: July 01, 2010, 05:23:38 PM »
 Now that was a fruitful bit of research, BARB. I'm glad you found that
quote from Tagore, too. I really want to read more of that man's work.
Dear Trumbull was definitely a killjoy; who asked his opinion?!

  Here is a pleasant antidote to sticky Stickney:

Barefoot Days
by Rachel Field

In the morning, very early,
That’s the time I love to go
Barefoot where the fern grows curly
And the grass is cool between each toe,
On a summer morning – O!
On a summer morning!

That is when the birds go by
Up the sunny slopes of air,
And each rose has a butterfly
Or a golden bee to wear;
And I am glad in every toe –
Such a summer morning – O!
Such a summer morning!
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

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« Reply #1613 on: July 02, 2010, 01:53:09 PM »
A by the way Youtube that says it all -  a hug to all of you - it is like sharing a daily poem that brings a smile or a tear, a chuckle or wonderment to us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hN8CKwdosjE

The Hug

No moving parts, no batteries,
No monthly payments and no fees.
Inflation-proof, non-taxable,
In fact, it's quite relaxable.
It can't be stolen, won't pollute,
One size fits all, do not dilute.
It uses little energy,
But yields results enormously.

Relieves your tension and your stress,
Invigorate your happiness.
Combats depression, makes you beam,
And elevates your self-esteem!

Your circulation it corrects
Without unpleasant side effects.
It is, I think, the perfect drug:
May I prescribe, my friend, the hug!

- Unknown


“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1614 on: July 02, 2010, 05:25:52 PM »
Thank you, Barb, and right back at'cha!  Fresh Air today had a repeat of the 2008 interview with the new  Poet Laureate
W S Merwin.  Interview story and podcast here: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128239404
Jackie
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« Reply #1615 on: July 03, 2010, 08:10:38 AM »
 What a delightful little poem, BARB.  I'd like to place 'The Hug' on everybody's gift list! 
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

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« Reply #1616 on: July 03, 2010, 10:48:11 AM »
Reporting in  In April I went to CA to visit and participate in some family activities of my brother who lives there I WAS COLD and Ihad to buy some winter clothes  left there in June and went to KS MO to visit a friend  ,two days after my arrival my brother in CA called to tell me our one remaining brother in Ohio had passed away and would be buried In Springfield Mo 2 1/2 hrs away He flew to kc and we drove to Springfield to honor our brother  I flew home to VA and felt like I had a cold but have a viral bronchiitis I still have 3 days of medicine to take but must be careful And in all the pain and trip to the ER I have lost "my ear" I THINK It is covered by insurance and hope so All I want to say is GOD BLESS AMERICA and all honor to those who answer the nations call...Wars dont seem to solve anything so I pray we will all try to get along and give peace a try   GOD BLESS ALL WHO ARE  WILLING to try  Love always, anna

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« Reply #1617 on: July 03, 2010, 12:36:30 PM »
Anna:  You've had more than your share of troubles lately and if I hadn't misplaces my magic wand I would use it to grant you surcease and solace.  All I can do instead is assure you that my thoughts for your good health are coming your way. 

Phyllis McGinley, there is a name from the past.  I had to read more of her so her book, Times Three http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_McGinley

It's not poetry but it is powerful prose.  NPR is playing their recital of the Declaration of Independence and the voices, though not emoting but quietly authoritative, give me goose bumps hearing those magnificent words. Here is the podcast:  http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128242656
Jackie
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« Reply #1618 on: July 03, 2010, 01:27:58 PM »
Thanks for sharing Jackie - I could not figure out how to get the sound on my computer - do I use IPod? I hit the the square symbol rather than the one that looks like a cell phone and a list comes up but no sound. I do not have an IPod nor do I pay for anything more on my cell than the ability to receive and make phone calls. It appears you know more about how tech works and I have been left behind.

OH Anna -  you have had a plate full - on your ear - it could be the antibiotics - I had that  happen back 20 years ago and  until 4 years ago never had an antibiotics prescribed - I learned tons and tons about herbs and I guess what they call alternative meds including the use of colloidal silver http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_uses_of_silver

My undoing was again about 4 years ago when the dentist prescribed an antibiotic that did not work and then another followed a month later by a bad sinus infection that the new doctor prescribed an antibiotic and so within 6 weeks I had 3 kinds of antibiotics pumped into my system and a month later I ended up with Temporal Arteritus which for me lasted beyond the 2 years till nearly 3  years. Long stories have to come to a stop all to say - I am not a fan of antibiotics and have learned from all of this after some tests and research there are 2 older types that are the only 2 antibiotics I can tolerate. And so with that you may be OK after the antibiotic is out of your system which takes weeks after you have stopped taking it.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1619 on: July 03, 2010, 01:29:31 PM »
Declaration Of Independence
          ~ Mac McGovern

Alone in the night,
gazing at the beauty,
of a celestial masterpiece,
yet untouched,
by the cover of cloud,
an unrelenting silence,
is interrupted,
by the insistent ticking,
of an old grandfather clock in the parlor,
a candle with a dual wick,
rests on a table,
made of knotty pine,
roughly chiselled,
to add a rustic touch,
accentuating a floor of polished oak,
provides my only light

I sit watching shadows,
flickering across plaster walls,
mimic eerie phantoms,
slithering throughout the room,
refusing to take recognizable shape,
cause unwanted distraction

The work before me suffers,
in stark contrast,
pitifully begs,
text be laid,
to cover the nudity,
of the page before me

The accomplishments of my life,
pale in contrast,
what keeps me awake this night,
the plight of a nation,
will rest on the passion of my words,
my friends and patriots,
rely on a text,
that will take them from anarchy,
to democracy

Shadows appearing to take shape,
play tricks upon my vision,
reveal a sight,
resembling a picture,
of a united,
uniformly defined crowd,
cheering and waving as one voice,
one sound

Suddenly it becomes clear,
the page before me,
fills with pronouncement,
my chest swells with pride,
what's written this night,
becomes page after page,
until,
finally,
to carry a nation,
desiring riddance,
a Declaration Of Independence
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1620 on: July 03, 2010, 01:31:51 PM »
I AM THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE
          ~ by Genie Keller

I was born in 1776 on the 4th of July
Amid strife and the burning question of, why?

My aim to succeed in every way
To Bless my people with hope everyday.
My every word took a solemn beginning
The anticipation of futures and also of winning.

I was written with skill from far above
With meaningful words, blended with love.
The pattern was struck into every mind
To explain what was there for all mankind.
The Truth of the Right belongs to all men
To protect it and Guard it, secured to the end.

Now with hope in our hearts and the will of the state
With life, liberty and pursuit of happiness,
OR, our fate
I pledged to each person, the promise of peace
For Loyalty and Independence never to cease.
I wrote to protect us in all of our Rights
And grant us much strength through out all of the nights.

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1621 on: July 03, 2010, 03:10:20 PM »
Actually it is my ignorance, Barb.  I didn't know that an MP3 player was necessary, I thought it would play over the computer.  I have, by choice, no sound on my computer and use headphones when I want to hear a DVD or some other audio file.  Sorry to send you on a wild goose chase.  I'll have to get an MP3 player, seems like there is much there for me to listen to while I clean, or knit, etc.
Jackie
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« Reply #1622 on: July 03, 2010, 04:10:43 PM »
Oh good - I feel better that it wasn't because I didn't  understand - I should get headphones - the sound on my computer is horrible - it is in the back of the screen and I have it as high as it will go and at times I can barely hear it - problem I cannot find a port to plug in either headphones or another set of speakers and I hate spending the dollars for a computer guru to show me - my grandson will be here in early August so that is on my list of things for him to show me.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1623 on: July 03, 2010, 07:18:31 PM »
I made the mistake of looking at MP3 players on eBay.  New Apple iTouch with 32GB is offered for auction starting at $.99 with 24 hours to go.  Of course I'll watch it and I may bid in the last minute or two if the price is good enough.  The iTouch is like a mini computer, like the iPhone, but without the phone function.  It can pickup internet, there ar a gazillion apps for it, so tempting.  The price has gone up since I last looked:  http://tinyurl.com/33hh4mq
Jackie
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« Reply #1624 on: July 03, 2010, 11:01:58 PM »
Hi from OZLand!

Just wanted to warm you up for Independence Day.  It is the 4th of July here, 1.00pm to be exact.  Have a truly excellent day with those you love.

roshanarose
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« Reply #1625 on: July 04, 2010, 08:51:29 AM »
 I'm so sorry your trips ended in loss and illness, ANNA.  I wish I could be of some comfort to
you.  If knowing you have many friends helps, you know you have them here.

 This is probably a good time to bring in this old classic.  I didn't know it was by Sir Walter Scott,
though.

  Innominatus
by Sir Walter Scott

BREATHES there the man with soul so dead,
Who never to himself hath said,
'This is my own, my native land!'
Whose heart hath ne'er within him burn'd
As home his footsteps he hath turn'd
From wandering on a foreign strand?
If such there breathe, go, mark him well;
For him no Minstrel raptures swell;
High though his titles, proud his name,
Boundless his wealth as wish can claim;
Despite those titles, power, and pelf,
The wretch, concentred all in self,
Living, shall forfeit fair renown,
And, doubly dying, shall go down
To the vile dust from whence he sprung,
Unwept, unhonour'd, and unsung.
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

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« Reply #1626 on: July 04, 2010, 03:10:29 PM »
Thanks for peeking in roshanarose and so you are from down under - are you from Australia or New Zealand?

PERFECT Babi - it has been awhile since we read that famous first line.  I am vaguely remembering a black and white movie in which those lines set the scene - I can't quite catch it - does anyone remember?

A quiet 4Th around here - so many events were cancelled because of all the rain - today is more sun than rain however, very muggy plus we go in and out of short rain showers. I usually go to a nearby overpass where many neighbors casually meet and watch the fireworks in the sky from Town Lake but this year I think I will pass and watch the event at the nation's capitol aired on PBS.

Back when we were going in depth posting the poems of one poet a month we did two American poets whose work is quintessential American - here is a Walt Whitman followed by Emma Lazarus

I Hear America Singing
            ~ by Walt Whitman (from Leaves of Grass, 1900)
 
I hear America singing, the varied carols I hear;
Those of mechanics—each one singing his, as it should be, blithe and strong;
The carpenter singing his, as he measures his plank or beam,
The mason singing his, as he makes ready for work, or leaves off work;
The boatman singing what belongs to him in his boat—the deckhand singing on the steamboat deck;
The shoemaker singing as he sits on his bench—the hatter singing as he stands;
The wood-cutter’s song—the ploughboy’s, on his way in the morning, or at the noon intermission, or at sundown;
The delicious singing of the mother—or of the young wife at work—or of the girl sewing or washing—
Each singing what belongs to her, and to none else;
The day what belongs to the day—
At night, the party of young fellows, robust, friendly,
Singing, with open mouths, their strong melodious songs.


The New Colossus
          ~ by Emma Lazarus (1883)
 
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

 

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1627 on: July 04, 2010, 03:22:33 PM »
Someone said it nicely:  We are all immigrants, we just arrived in different boats.
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« Reply #1628 on: July 04, 2010, 09:11:33 PM »
I don'tknow how long ago it was that I saw 1776 on Broadway, a great great show.  I got out the CD and replayed it, it is terrific.  I rmember the curtain going up, and the choris of delegates singing "Sit down, John!  Sit down John! For God's sake, John, SIT DOWN!" directed at John Adams and his persistent driving force for a declaration of independence in a sweltering Philadelphia summer.

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« Reply #1629 on: July 04, 2010, 09:55:27 PM »
Barb - From Brisbane, sub-tropical Capital of Queensland.

The first time I read Walt Whitman I loved him.  I actually recited one of his poems at my daughter's wedding.  Can't remember the name, drat.  Maybe something about a bonnie bride.  Can anyone help jog my memory?

I have a close affinity with the States as I was married to an American for 20 years.  He was born at a place called Fort Ord, near Monterey, I think.  His father was in the army, but later became an academic and moved his family to Australia when my husband was 12.

I have fond memories of my mother-in-law's cooking.  Spoonbread and marshmallow topped sweet potato, turkey with cranberry sauce and cornbread, yummy. 

When I finally visited the US I felt very much at home.  The people in Boston were intrigued by my accent.  They couldn't place it at all.  I would ask them to guess where I was from, and they all thought Ireland!  My accent is not typical of Australians.

I enjoyed Philadelphia - I stayed in the old town in a little old inn.  I remember ordering potato skins and tequila at the little restaurant there.  I was astonished by the size of the serving of potato skins - it was huge!  And the margarita came in a jug.  All for little old me.  I was fortunate there weren't too many stairs for me to negotiate that night.

How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?  - Plato

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« Reply #1630 on: July 05, 2010, 02:19:18 AM »
Roshanarose - what in the world is so important or special about Tweed Heads that there is a major Highway from Brisbane?

From your Mother-in-law's Thanksgiving menu the spoonbread is typical of New England but the sweet potatoes and cornbread is Southern - and so I wonder how her family is mixed - I think Fort Ord is a military town - military towns are comfortable, looking like most other towns however, filled with folks from all over the nation each bringing their own taste in food, way of expressing themselves and how they celebrate traditions special to the area back home where generations of their relatives live. Sounds like your father-in-law was in the service therefore, your husband grew up in a military town where my guess is his mom brought with her recipies from her home.

Sounds like your visit to the states was centered where the founding fathers put it all together -  

We are looking forward to you sharing with  us some of the work of well known poets from Australia - seems to me there was one poet we studied for a month back when we did one poet a  month - I would have to look in the archive and see if I can find who it was.
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« Reply #1631 on: July 05, 2010, 02:41:15 AM »
Found it!!!  :D
Found It!   :)
Hurray :-* I found it!
Here is a copy of a post from Annafair, our Anna who started this poetry discussion when SeniorNet was first on-line in the mid 1990s.
The Australian poet was Lawson, and amazing it appears - get this roshanarose - he was our July poet for 2006 and so July 4th 2006 we would have been reading Lawson.

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July 2, 2006 - 01:31 pm
This is the fourth time I have checked in ..trying to decide which poem I should post and reading what you have shared and thinking how each poet reaches us, teaches us new things, Already I am finding so much about Australia and our poet of the month is writing about the history of Australia. As many poems that I have read, memorized and never forgotten some how I missed the fact that poetry is really history in rhyme.So many history books I have read were written not by the people who lived it but by someone who researched and here we are reading about history from the heart and soul of a man who lived it and recorded it with his words.

I am taken by the similarity of our country and how it was settled The Australians had aborigines and we did too only we called them Indians because Columbus thought at first that is where he was. We had indentured people, we had slaves, we had much of what Australia had ... English, Irish, etc and and so Lawson's poems mean to me. I am not only discovering Australia but re discovering America as well.

Alliemae said, Lawson's poems reminded her of the poems her father read to her as a child and they remind me of the first poems I read as a child. They tell a story, often based on history but always based on human thoughts, feelings and deeds. And they are almost like a song. They have a rhythm that sort of stays with you... and makes you feel I would like to read that again.

The poem I chose, I can't really say why, I just know it caught my eye and it tells a tale we all know even if we think we have forgotten.  So without further explanation, I offer my second selection... Anna

Do You Think That I Do Not Know?
Henry Lawson-1910

They say that I never have written of love,
As a writer of songs should do;
They say that I never could touch the strings
With a touch that is firm and true;
They say I know nothing of women and men
In the fields where Love's roses grow,
And they say I must write with a halting pen
Do you think that I do not know?

When the love-burst came, like an English Spring,
In days when our hair was brown,
And the hem of her skirt was a sacred thing
And her hair was an angel's crown.
The shock when another man touched her arm,
Where the dancers sat round in a row;
The hope and despair, and the false alarm
Do you think that I do not know?

By the arbour lights on the western farms,
You remember the question put,
While you held her warm in your quivering arms
And you trembled from head to foot.
The electric shock from her finger tips,
And the murmuring answer low,
The soft, shy yielding of warm red lips
Do you think that I do not know?

She was buried at Brighton, where Gordon sleeps,
When I was a world away;
And the sad old garden its secret keeps,
For nobody knows to-day.
She left a message for me to read,
Where the wild wide oceans flow;
Do you know how the heart of a man can bleed
Do you think that I do not know?

I stood by the grave where the dead girl lies,
When the sunlit scenes were fair,
And the white clouds high in the autumn skies,
And I answered the message there.
But the haunting words of the dead to me
Shall go wherever I go.
She lives in the Marriage that Might Have Been
Do you think that I do not know?

They sneer or scoff, and they pray or groan,
And the false friend plays his part.
Do you think that the blackguard who drinks alone
Knows aught of a pure girl's heart?
Knows aught of the first pure love of a boy
With his warm young blood aglow,
Knows aught of the thrill of the world-old joy
Do you think that I do not know?

They say that I never have written of love,
They say that my heart is such
That finer feelings are far above;
But a writer may know too much.
There are darkest depths in the brightest nights,
When the clustering stars hang low;
There are things it would break his strong heart to write
Do you think that I do not know?

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1632 on: July 05, 2010, 04:31:09 AM »
Hi Barbara!  I'm still lurking about occasionally. I don't read much poetry these days because I find it too emotionally draining but I have grown to enjoy coming in to read a poem or two here. I think perhaps I am beginning to be able to read poetry once again. So thank you for that.

 Of course I couldn't resist coming in after reading the Lawson one that Annafair had chosen - thanks for putting it up. I didn't know you had featured him or that he was in the archives.

One line in the poem caught my eye:

She was buried at Brighton where Gordon sleeps

which brought to mind Gordon referenced here by Lawson - Adam Lindsay Gordon - another poet - he committed suicide by shooting himself at Brighton Beach and is buried at Brighton Cemetery. He is the only Aussie poet to be honoured in Poets Corner of Westminster Abbey.
I don't wish to intrude but I'll look out one of his poems and post it here a little later.


BTW - we miss you over in Don's Classical Corner.
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« Reply #1633 on: July 05, 2010, 07:07:01 AM »
Wheeee and Hiiiii  :-* :D :-*  think of all that as a long lost friend being greeted by a running scream with arms Catawampus outstretched.

All to say great to see your post Gumtree - and please, yes, share with us an  Adam Lindsay Gordon poem - I didn't know the story so thanks for sharing.

As to Don's Classical Corner I went through a blues and jazz phase and Don is a purest. I didn't want to disrupt the lovers of only Classical -  I am thinking I would be better contributing in a Pops venue where classical mixes equally well with other music.  Also, my eye is giving me problems - I had to reduce the amount of time I spend in front of a computer screen with the screen light that I try to dim - they are hoping this fall when I have the cataracts removed it will help the naughty eye.
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« Reply #1634 on: July 05, 2010, 08:41:06 AM »
Hey Barb!  Catawumpus ?? New to me but I got the message - thanks for the warm welcome.

I'm sorry to hear about your eye problems - hope all will be well once you've had the cataracts done.

As for Gordon - I've spent the better part of the afternoon searching for my copy of his collected works - to no avail but found a few of his in an anthology. Gordon was a very erratic poet - some good stuff - some really bad. He was 'restless' as a youngster and his father decided it would for the best to send him to Australia so he could have a new start.

This poem is rather long but easy to read - I've known it since childhood and can still recite most of it from memory.

To My Sister

Across the trackless seas I go,
No matter where or when,
And few my future lot will know,
And fewer still will care.
My hopes are gone, my time is spent,
I little heed their loss,
And if I cannot feel content,
I cannot feel remorse.

My parents bid me cross the flood,
My kindred frown at me,
They say I have belied my blood,
And stained my pedigree.
But I must turn from those who chide,
And laugh at those who frown;
I cannot quench my stubborn pride,
Nor keep my spirits down.

I once had talents fit to win
Success in life's career
And if I chose a part of sin,
My choice has cost me dear,
But those who brand me with disgrace
Will scarcely dare to say,
They spoke the taunt before my face,
And went unscathed away.

My friends will miss a comrade's face
And pledge me on the seas,
Who shared the wine cup or the chase
Or follies worse than these.
A careless smile, a parting glass,
A hand that waves adieu,
And from my sight they soon will pass,
And from my memory too.

I loved a girl not long ago
And, till my suit was told,
I thought her breast as fair as snow,
'Twas very near as cold;
And yet I spoke, with feelings more
Of recklessness than pain,
Those words I never spoke before,
Nor never shall again.

Her cheek grew pale, in her dark eye
I saw a tear-drop shine;
Her red lips faltered in reply,
And then were pressed to mine.
A quick pulsation of the Heart!
A flutter of the breath!
A smothered sob - and thus we part,
To meet no more till death.

At yet I may at times recall
Her memory with a sigh;
At times for me the tears may fall
And dim her sparkling eye.
But absent friends are soon forgot,
And in a year or less
'Twill doubtless be another's lot
Those very lips to press.

With adverse fate we best can cope
When all we prize has fled;
And where there's little left to hope.
There's little left to dread!
Oh! time glides ever quickly by!
Destroying all that's dear,
On earth there's little worth a sigh,
And nothing worth a tear!

What fears have I? What hopes in life?
What joys can I command?
A few short years of toil and strife
In a strange and distant land!
When green grass sprouts above this clay
(and that might be ere long)
Some friends may read these lines and say
The world has judged him wrong.

There is a spot not far away
Where my young sister sleeps.
Who seems alive but yesterday
So fresh her memory keeps;
For we have played in childhood there
Beneath the hawthorn's bough,
And bent our knee in childish prayer
I cannot utter now!

Of late so reckless and so wild,
That spot recalls to me
That I was once a laughing child,
As innocent as she;
And there, while August's wildflowers wave,
I wandered all alone,
Strewed blossoms on her little grave
And knelt beside the stone.

I seem to have a load to bear
A heavy choking grief;
Could I have forced a single tear
I might have felt relief.
I think my hot and restless heart
Has scorched the channels dry,
From which those sighs of sorrow start
To moisten cheek and eye.

Sister, farewell! farewell once more
To every youthful tie!
Friends! parents! kinsmen! native shore!
To each and all goodbye!
And thoughts which for the moment seem
To bind me with a spell,
Ambitious hope! love's boyish dream!
To you a last farewell!



For me this poem evokes so much of pain and regret and still tells Gordon's story. Gordon wrote it in 1853 just a few days before he set sail for Australia. He was about 20 years of age.
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« Reply #1635 on: July 05, 2010, 08:48:46 AM »
Perfect, BARB, both of them.  I'm not a Walt Whitman fan, but I've always appreciated "I Hear
America Singing". I had Emma Lazarus' concluding lines memorized and find I still remember them.
 "Sit Down, JOHN!' was a favorite with me, too, BELLE. I sounds so true to human tempers in a
hot summer session.

 ROSE, could this possibly be the Whitman poem you're trying to remember?

    A KISS TO THE BRIDE.

Sacred, blithesome, undenied,
With benisons from East and West,
And salutations North and South,
Through me indeed to-day a million hearts and
      hands,
Wafting a million loves, a million soul-felt prayers;
—Tender and true remain the arm that shields thee
Fair winds always fill the ship's sails that sail thee!
Clear sun by day, and bright stars at night, beam on
      thee!
Dear girl—through me the ancient privilege too,
For the New World, through me, the old, old wed-
      ding greeting:
O youth and health! O sweet Missouri rose! O
      bonny bride!
Yield thy red cheeks, thy lips, to-day,
Unto a Nation's loving kiss.
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« Reply #1636 on: July 05, 2010, 12:53:45 PM »
Babi thanks for persuing the Whitman poem - if it is the one roshanarose used or not I am so glad to read the lines - just lovely.

Gumtree glad you found  us a Gordon poem - woe is me it tells of one discouraged heartsick young man. Looks like he was an embarrassment to his family - lost his first love - and still morns the loss of his young sister.

Bellemere how wonderful to have seen 1776 on Broadway - I only saw the movie version and did not remember 'Sit down John' as being an important song - found the words and thought I would include them in this post.

Congress:
Sit down, John! Sit down, John!
For God's sake, John, sit down!
Sit down, John! Sit down, John!
For God's sake, John, sit down!

Someone oughta open up a window!

It's ninety degrees! Have mercy, John, please
It's hot as hell in Philadephia!

Someone oughta open up a window!

Adams:
I say vote yes! Vote yes! Vote for independency!
Congress:
Someone oughta open up a window!
Adams:
I say vote yes!
Congress:
Sit down, John!

Adams:
Vote for independency!
Congress:
Someone oughta open up a window!
No, no, no! Too many flies! Too many flies!
But it's hot as hell in Philadelphia!

Someone oughta open up a window!
Can't we compromise here?
Adams:
Vote yes!
Congress:
No, too many flies here!
Adams:
Vote yes!
Congress:
Oh for God's sake, John, sit down!
Adams:
Oh, good God! Consider yourself lucky that you have John Adams to abuse, for no sane man
would tolerate it!
Congress:
John, you're a bore; we've heard this before
Now for God's sake, John, sit down!
Adams:
I say vote yes!
Congress:
No!
Adams:
Vote yes!
Congress:
No!
Adams:
Vote for independency!
Congress:
Someone oughta open up a window!
Adams:
I say vote yes!
Congress:
Sit down, John!
Congress:
Vote for independency!
Congress:
Will someone shut that man up?
Adams:
Never!

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« Reply #1637 on: July 05, 2010, 02:00:14 PM »
Phyllis Mcginley's priase to our founding Fathers for their forethought

A FOURTH OF JULY HYMN

(Verse 2)

What is so rare in these sovereign states
As festive weather on festive dates?
Sneezes hamper the Yuletide kiss.
Autumn glooms on the Armistice.
Easter's certain to be contrary.
Washington picked February.
But east and west and south and north
There's strawberry shortcake on the Fourth.

(Verse 4)

You might have chosen August
   When lawns begin to parch,
Defended Man in the middle of Jan
  Or the horrible first of March.
But you thought of parades and picnics,
   Of a blue American sky,
Of driving fast in a brand-new car,
Of rowing boats and of breaking par.
And you set it down on your calendar
   That you's choose the Fourth of July.

The other three verses mention most of the Signer's names in verse but this is the part i like the best.
Jackie
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« Reply #1638 on: July 05, 2010, 03:23:22 PM »
Well, if no one else is going to take it out and dust it off, I guess I will try - from memory, let's see if I still can:

Shall I compare thee to a summer’s day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate.
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
And summer’s lease hath all too short a date.
Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines,
And often is his gold complexion dimm’d,
And every fair from fair sometime declines,
By chance, and nature’s changing course untrimmed.
But they eternal summer shall not fade,
Nor lose that rare perfection that thou owest.
Nor shall death brag thou wanderest in his shade,
When in eternal lines to time thou grow’st.
So long as men can breathe or eyes can see
So long lives this, and this gives life to thee.


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« Reply #1639 on: July 05, 2010, 03:24:14 PM »
the "eye of heaven is giving us hell today in Western Mass. 99 at 3 P.M.