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« Reply #3320 on: March 02, 2012, 01:56:25 AM »
Flower Fairies are tiny creatures (the biggest is only 8 inches tall) that live in the tree tops, marshes, forest floor, wayside and gardens. Wherever and whenever a seed sprouts, a Flower Fairy baby is born. Each Flower Fairy lives and sleeps in their chosen flower, plant or tree, and as this grows the fairy grows too. Each and every Flower Fairy is in charge of looking after their flower or plant; keeping it strong and healthy by making sure it has plenty of sunshine and water to drink, sweeping away dead leaves, and polishing flowers and stems.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #3321 on: March 02, 2012, 01:59:57 AM »
Port Fairy in Spring
          ~ Francis Duggan

     In Port Fairy by the ocean nesting birds chirp and sing
On a sunny day in early September in the early Spring
In a lovely old place on a beautiful day
The Spring is in town for her annual three months stay
In the home gardens and parklands shrubs and trees and flower beds in their flowers
And the coastal lands green after recent Spring showers
In Victoria Spring is such a lovely time of the year
And with each passing day warmer weather is near
The mud nesting magpie larks call out pee wee all day
From Utopia Port Fairy does not seem far away
Near Griffith Island one can hear the ocean's loud din
As the big waves at high tide to the beach rumbles in
In the old coastal town for it's beauty well known
Port Fairy it does have a charm of it's own.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #3322 on: March 02, 2012, 08:35:05 AM »
 Lovely spring poems, BARB.  I could feel myself relaxing and smiling a it more.
   Were you aware that Cowper suffered from regular bouts of manic depression?  I came across
that just yesterday.  It gives new insight into some of his poems.  Like this one:

   Olney Hymns, IX [The Contrite Heart]    
by William Cowper  

 
The Lord will happiness divine
     On contrite hearts bestow;
Then tell me, gracious God, is mine
     A contrite heart or no?

I hear, but seem to hear in vain,
     Insensible as steel;
If aught is felt, 'tis only pain,
     To find I cannot feel.

I sometimes think myself inclined
     To love Thee if I could;
But often feel another mind,
     Averse to all that's good.

My best desires are faint and few,
     I fain would strive for more;
But when I cry, "My strength renew!"
     Seem weaker than before.

Thy saints are comforted, I know,
     And love Thy house of prayer;
I therefore go where others go,
     But find no comfort there.

Oh make this heart rejoice or ache;
     Decide this doubt for me;
And if it be not broken, break—
     And heal it, if it be.
 
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« Reply #3323 on: March 03, 2012, 07:24:54 PM »
I like that one very much.

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« Reply #3324 on: March 04, 2012, 08:48:07 AM »
 Me, too.  :)
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« Reply #3325 on: March 04, 2012, 01:31:12 PM »
Spring, Lent, Easter on the way, new tree buds, yellow flowers start us off and it all brings us closer to our spiritual nature doesn't it...I have a book with daily lental essays and poems that even after all these years the readings are as fresh as today.

"Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting;
The Soul that rises with us, our life's Star,
Hath had elsewhere its setting,
And cometh from afar;
Not in entire forgetfulness,
And not in entire nakedness,
         But trailing clouds of glory do we come   
From God, who is our home."

                   -- William Wordsworth
             From: Ode on Intimations of Immortality
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« Reply #3326 on: March 04, 2012, 01:33:02 PM »
Here are more lines from Wordsworth's Ode

THERE was a time when meadow, grove, and stream,   
    The earth, and every common sight,   
            To me did seem   
    Apparell'd in celestial light,   
The glory and the freshness of a dream.           
It is not now as it hath been of yore;—   
        Turn wheresoe'er I may,   
            By night or day,   
The things which I have seen I now can see no more.   
 
        The rainbow comes and goes,     
        And lovely is the rose;   
        The moon doth with delight   
    Look round her when the heavens are bare;   
        Waters on a starry night   
        Are beautiful and fair;     
    The sunshine is a glorious birth;   
    But yet I know, where'er I go,   
That there hath pass'd away a glory from the earth.   
 
Now, while the birds thus sing a joyous song,   
    And while the young lambs bound     
        As to the tabor's sound,   
To me alone there came a thought of grief:   
A timely utterance gave that thought relief,   
        And I again am strong:   
The cataracts blow their trumpets from the steep;     
No more shall grief of mine the season wrong;   
I hear the echoes through the mountains throng,   
The winds come to me from the fields of sleep,   
        And all the earth is gay;   
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #3327 on: March 05, 2012, 08:09:11 AM »
 Thank God, I can still see the glories of the earth.  I can still pause and praise the Creator for
the grace of a tree outlined against the sky or the wonder of a jewel-like bird.

  Remember that old hymn...
    For the beauty of the earth
For the glory of the skies,
For the love which from our birth
Over and around us lies.
   Lord of all, to Thee we raise,
   This our hymn of grateful praise.
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

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« Reply #3328 on: March 09, 2012, 03:24:12 AM »
OH my poetry on You Tube - here is an W H Auden poem - This Is The Night Mail

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmciuKsBOi0
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« Reply #3329 on: March 17, 2012, 12:48:00 PM »
Some Irish poets to help celebrate St. Patrick's Day

The Planters Daughter
          ~ Austin Clarke

 When night stirred at sea,
 An the fire brought a crowd in
 They say that her beauty
 Was music in mouth
 And few in the candlelight
 Thought her too proud,
 For the house of the planter
 Is known by the trees.

 Men that had seen her
 Drank deep and were silent,
 The women were speaking
 Wherever she went --
 As a bell that is rung
 Or a wonder told shyly
 And O she was the Sunday
 In every week.
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« Reply #3330 on: March 17, 2012, 12:50:59 PM »
Stoney Grey Soil
          ~ Patrick Kavanagh

 O stony grew soil of Monaghan
 The laugh from my love you thieved
 You took the gay child of my passion
 And gave me your clod-conceived.

 You clogged the feet of my boyhood
 and I believed that my stumble
 Had the poise and stride of Apollo
 And his voice my thick-tongued mumble.

 You told me the plough was immortal
 O green-life-conquering plough!
 Your mandril strained, your coulter blunted
 In the smooth lea-field of my brow.

 You sang on steaming dunghills
 A song of cowards' brood,
 You perfumed my clothes with weasel itch,
 You fed me on swinish food.

 You flung a ditch on my vision
 Of beauty love and truth.
 O stony grey soil of Monaghan
 You burgled my bank of youth!

 Lost the long hours of pleasure
 All the women that love young men
 O can I still stroke the monster's back
 Or write with unpoisioned pen

 His name in these lonely verses
 Or mention the dark fields where
 The first gay flight of my lyric
 Got caught in a peasant's prayer.

 Mullahinsha, Drummeril, Black Shanco--
 Wherever I turn I see
 In the stony grey soil of Monaghan
 Dead loves that were born for me.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #3331 on: March 17, 2012, 12:59:35 PM »
When You are Old
          ~ W. B. Yeats

When you are old and grey and full of sleep,
And nodding by the fire, take down this book,
And slowly read, and dream of the soft look
Your eyes had once, and of their shadows deep;
 
How many loved your moments of glad grace,
And loved your beauty with love false or true,
But one man loved the pilgrim soul in you,
And loved the sorrows of your changing face;
 
And bending down beside the glowing bars,
Murmur, a little sadly, how Love fled
And paced upon the mountains overhead
And hid his face amid a crowd of stars.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #3332 on: March 18, 2012, 08:25:46 AM »
 Ah, Yeats is still the more graceful poet, though I must admit Mr. Kavanaugh's is
quite powerful.  Are you familiar with this old Irish saying?

   The race of men named the Gael,
Is a race God surely made mad.
For all of their wars are merry
And all of their loves are sad.
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« Reply #3333 on: March 18, 2012, 01:49:01 PM »
Hadn't heard that one Babi - thanks for sharing - we have had hardly any winter this year so that celebrating Spring does not feel as exciting - blooms have come and gone more with astonishment than with the joy of seeing a new season open before us.

Everything is blooming most recklessly; if it were voices instead of colors, there would be an unbelievable shrieking into the heart of the night.  ~ Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters of Rainer Maria Rilke

If we had no winter, the spring would not be so pleasant; if we did not sometimes taste of adversity, prosperity would not be so welcome.  ~ Anne Bradstreet

Indoors or out, no one relaxes in March, that month of wind and taxes, the wind will presently disappear, the taxes last us all the year.  ~ Ogden Nash

Spring shows what God can do with a drab and dirty world.  ~ Virgil A. Kraft

In the spring I have counted one hundred and thirty-six different kinds of weather inside of four and twenty hours.  ~ Mark Twain

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« Reply #3334 on: March 18, 2012, 01:53:53 PM »
By Night when Others Soundly Slept
          ~ Anne Bradstreet 1612-1672

By night when others soundly slept
And hath at once both ease and Rest,
My waking eyes were open kept
And so to lie I found it best.

I sought him whom my Soul did Love,
With tears I sought him earnestly.
He bow'd his ear down from Above.
In vain I did not seek or cry.

My hungry Soul he fill'd with Good;
He in his Bottle put my tears,
My smarting wounds washt in his blood,
And banisht thence my Doubts and fears.

What to my Saviour shall I give
Who freely hath done this for me?
I'll serve him here whilst I shall live
And Loue him to Eternity

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #3335 on: March 19, 2012, 08:30:10 AM »
 I do think Mark Twain is exaggerating a wee bit.  ;D

 Thank you for the Anne Bradstreet poem.  I have read a bit about her, but I don't recall seeing
one of her poems before. 
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« Reply #3336 on: March 24, 2012, 08:53:04 AM »
 BARB, I saw your post in the DL Bookstack,  and you plainly have a very busy summer ahead of
you.  Would you have time before you go to pursue a poet for me?  I heard the name Seamus
Heaney, id'ed as the Poet Laureat of Ireland.  I'd never heard of him before, and went looking
through the net for some of his poems.  I found plenty of articles about him and listing his books
of both poetry and prose, but not a single poem printed out.
  One article quoted three lines of one of his poems, and that's it!  They did help me see why
Ireland named him their poet laureate.   
  “Be advised my passport’s green.
No glass of ours was ever raised
to toast the Queen.”

   So now I am both curious and frustrated.  Do you think you might have anything of his
around?  Or know where you could find some
   
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« Reply #3337 on: March 24, 2012, 11:16:16 AM »
Oh yes, we did a month of his poetry with AnnaFair back a few years ago when we were doing a poet a month - my day is full but this evening I will look and see if I can find that month archived - but if not I do have at least one if not more of his books of poetry - I am particularly remembering one about his grandmother and another about peeling potatoes.

when I am at my daughters I will be able to continue here - the times I will not is the 5 days I am in Savannah and when we are on the road to and while we are in Taos until we get back home to my house which is 8 or 9 days according to if we stay over in Lubbock. And so out of pocket will be a total of about 2 weeks however too busy for a book discussion to either lead or participate - poetry is simply how we interpret the world and our life so it goes on with little forethought or study making it as simple as posting a poem that is often in the recesses of our memory.

Ah found it - here is the Seamus Heaney Poem about the potatoes...

Digging
 
Between my finger and my thumb
The squat pin rest; snug as a gun.

Under my window, a clean rasping sound
When the spade sinks into gravelly ground:
My father, digging. I look down

Till his straining rump among the flowerbeds
Bends low, comes up twenty years away
Stooping in rhythm through potato drills
Where he was digging.

The coarse boot nestled on the lug, the shaft
Against the inside knee was levered firmly.
He rooted out tall tops, buried the bright edge deep
To scatter new potatoes that we picked,
Loving their cool hardness in our hands.

By God, the old man could handle a spade.
Just like his old man.

My grandfather cut more turf in a day
Than any other man on Toner's bog.
Once I carried him milk in a bottle
Corked sloppily with paper. He straightened up
To drink it, then fell to right away
Nicking and slicing neatly, heaving sods
Over his shoulder, going down and down
For the good turf. Digging.

The cold smell of potato mould, the squelch and slap
Of soggy peat, the curt cuts of an edge
Through living roots awaken in my head.
But I've no spade to follow men like them.

Between my finger and my thumb
The squat pen rests.
I'll dig with it.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #3338 on: March 24, 2012, 11:18:25 AM »
Rite of Spring
          ~ by Seamus Heaney

So winter closed its fist
And got it stuck in the pump.
The plunger froze up a lump

In its throat, ice founding itself
Upon iron. The handle
Paralysed at an angle.

Then the twisting of wheat straw
into ropes, lapping them tight
Round stem and snout, then a light

That sent the pump up in a flame
It cooled, we lifted her latch,
Her entrance was wet, and she came.
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« Reply #3339 on: March 24, 2012, 11:21:12 AM »
This is a long one but too good to not include...

Keeping Going
          ~ by Seamus Heaney

The piper coming from far away is you
With a whitewash brush for a sporran
Wobbling round you, a kitchen chair
Upside down on your shoulder, your right arm
Pretending to tuck the bag beneath your elbow,
Your pop-eyes and big cheeks nearly bursting
With laughter, but keeping the drone going on
Interminably, between catches of breath.

*

The whitewash brush. An old blanched skirted thing
On the back of the byre door, biding its time
Until spring airs spelled lime in a work-bucket
And a potstick to mix it in with water.
Those smells brought tears to the eyes, we inhaled
A kind of greeny burning and thought of brimstone.
But the slop of the actual job
Of brushing walls, the watery grey
Being lashed on in broad swatches, then drying out
Whiter and whiter, all that worked like magic.
Where had we come from, what was this kingdom
We knew we'd been restored to? Our shadows
Moved on the wall and a tar border glittered
The full length of the house, a black divide
Like a freshly opened, pungent, reeking trench.

*

Piss at the gable, the dead will congregate.
But separately. The women after dark,
Hunkering there a moment before bedtime,
The only time the soul was let alone,
The only time that face and body calmed
In the eye of heaven.

Buttermilk and urine,
The pantry, the housed beasts, the listening bedroom.
We were all together there in a foretime,
In a knowledge that might not translate beyond
Those wind-heaved midnights we still cannot be sure
Happened or not. It smelled of hill-fort clay
And cattle dung. When the thorn tree was cut down
You broke your arm. I shared the dread
When a strange bird perched for days on the byre roof.

*

That scene, with Macbeth helpless and desperate
In his nightmare--when he meets the hags agains
And sees the apparitions in the pot--
I felt at home with that one all right. Hearth,
Steam and ululation, the smoky hair
Curtaining a cheek. 'Don't go near bad boys
In that college that you're bound for. Do you hear me?
Do you hear me speaking to you? Don't forget!'
And then the postick quickening the gruel,
The steam crown swirled, everything intimate
And fear-swathed brightening for a moment,
Then going dull and fatal and away.

*

Grey matter like gruel flecked with blood
In spatters on the whitewash. A clean spot
Where his head had been, other stains subsumed
In the parched wall he leant his back against
That morning like any other morning,
Part-time reservist, toting his lunch-box.
A car came slow down Castle Street, made the halt,
Crossed the Diamond, slowed again and stopped
Level with him, although it was not his lift.
And then he saw an ordinary face
For what it was and a gun in his own face.
His right leg was hooked back, his sole and heel
Against the wall, his right knee propped up steady,
So he never moved, just pushed with all his might
Against himself, then fell past the tarred strip,
Feeding the gutter with his copious blood.

*

My dear brother, you have good stamina.
You stay on where it happens. Your big tractor
Pulls up at the Diamond, you wave at people,
You shout and laugh about the revs, you keep
old roads open by driving on the new ones.
You called the piper's sporrans whitewash brushes
And then dressed up and marched us through the kitchen,
But you cannot make the dead walk or right wrong.
I see you at the end of your tether sometimes,
In the milking parlour, holding yourself up
Between two cows until your turn goes past,
Then coming to in the smell of dung again
And wondering, is this all? As it was
In the beginning, is now and shall be?
Then rubbing your eyes and seeing our old brush
Up on the byre door, and keeping going.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #3340 on: March 24, 2012, 11:31:46 AM »
Oh I did find it - the one about his Grandmother - only it is actually his Great Grandmother - the poem reads like the Holy Grail of Ireland during the nineteenth and twentieth century and this one is really long...

Clearances

           In Memoriam M.K.H., 1911-1984

She taught me what her uncle once taught her:
How easily the biggest coal block split
If you got the grain and the hammer angled right.

The sound of that relaxed alluring blow
Its co-opted and obliterated echo,
Taught me to hit, taught me to loosen,

Taught me between the hammer and the block
To face the music. Teach me now to listen,
To strike it rich behind the linear black.

A cobble thrown a hundred years ago
Keeps coming at me, the first stone
Aimed at a great-grandmother's turncoat brow.
The pony jerks and the riot's on.
She's couched low in the trap
Running the gauntlet that first Sunday
Down the brae to Mass at a panicked gallop.
He whips on through the town to cries of 'Lundy!'

Call her 'The Convert.' 'The Exogamous Bride.'
Anyhow, it is a genre piece
Inherited on my mother's side
And mine to dispose with now she's gone.
Instead of silver and Victorian lace
the exonerating, exonerated stone.

Polished linoleum shone there. Brass taps shone.
The china cups were very white and big --
An unchipped set with sugar bowl and jug.
The kettle whistled. Sandwich and tea scone
Were present and correct. In case it run,
The butter must be kept out of the sun.
And don't be dropping crumbs. Don't tilt your chair.
Don't reach. Don't point. Don't make noise when you stir.

It is Number 5, New Row, Land of the Dead,
Where grandfather is rising from his place
With spectacles pushed back on a clean bald head
To welcome a bewildered homing daughter
Before she even knocks. 'What's this? What's this?'
And they sit down in the shining room together.

When all the others were away at Mass
I was all hers as we peeled potatoes.
They broke the silence, let fall one by one
Like solder weeping off the soldering iron:
Cold comforts set between us, things to share
Gleaming in a bucket of clean water.
And again let fall. Little pleasant splashes
From each other's work would bring us to our senses.

So while the parish priest at her bedside
Went hammer and tongs at prayers for the dying
And some were responding and some crying
I remembered her head bent towards my head,
Her breath in mine, our fluent dipping knives --
Never closer the whole rest of our lives.

Fear of affectation made her affect
Inadequacy whenever it came to
Pronouncing words 'beyond her'. Bertold Brek.
She'd manage something hampered and askew
Every time, as if she might betray
The hampered and inadequate by too
Well-adjusted a vocabulary.
With more challenge than pride, she'd tell me, 'You
Know all them things.' So I governed my tongue
In front of her, a genuinely well-
Adjusted adequate betrayal
Of what I knew better. I'd naw and aye
And decently relapse into the wrong
Grammar which kept us allied and at bay.

The cool that came off sheets just off the line
Made me think the damp must still be in them
But when I took my corners of the linen
And pulled against her, first straight down the hem
And then diagonally, then flapped and shook
The fabric like a sail in a cross-wind,
They'd make a dried-out undulating thwack.
So we'd stretch and fold and end up hand to hand
For a split second as if nothing had happened
For nothing had that had not always happened
Beforehand, day by day, just touch and go,
Coming close again by holding back
In moves where I was x and she was o
Inscribed in sheets she'd sewn from ripped-out flour sacks.

In the first flush of the Easter holidays
The ceremonies during Holy Week
Were highpoints of our Sons and Lovers phase.
The midnight fire. The paschal candlestick.
Elbow to elbow, glad to be kneeling next
To each other up there near the front
Of the packed church, we would follow the text
And rubrics for the blessing of the font.
As the hind longs for the streams, so my soul . . .
Dippings. Towellings. The water breathed on.
The water mixed with chrism and oil.
Cruet tinkle. Formal incensation
And the psalmist's outcry taken up with pride:
Day and night my tears have been my bread.

In the last minutes he said more to her
Almost than in their whole life together.
'You'll be in New Row on Monday night
And I'll come up for you and you'll be glad
When I walk in the door . . . Isn't that right?'
His head was bent down to her propped-up head.
She could not hear but we were overjoyed.
He called her good and girl. Then she was dead,
The searching for a pulsebeat was abandoned
And we all knew one thing by being there.
The space we stood around had been emptied
Into us to keep, it penetrated
Clearances that suddenly stood open.
High cries were felled and a pure change happened.

I thought of walking round and round a space
Utterly empty, utterly a source
Where the decked chestnut tree had lost its place
In our front hedge above the wallflowers.
The white chips jumped and jumped and skited high.
I heard the hatchet's differentiated
Accurate cut, the crack, the sigh
And collapse of what luxuriated
Through the shocked tips and wreckage of it all.
Deep-planted and long gone, my coeval
Chestnut from a jam jar in a hole,
Its heft and hush became a bright nowhere,
A soul ramifying and forever
Silent, beyond silence listened for.
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« Reply #3341 on: March 24, 2012, 12:59:17 PM »
With the onset of spring, I get the urge to visit some of my favorite places again, but road trips are out for me, between poor eyesight and the pirce of gas!  One of them is Walden Pond, where I swam as a kid, and mused as a college student.  It is still beautiful and mostly undeveloped, except for the state beach on one side.  the replica of Thoreau's cabin is there, too.  Few people know that Henry David made a weekly hike into Concord to bring his laundry to the womenfolk!
Since I can't  hop in the car, I will have to emulate Mary Oliver.

         Going to Walden

It isn't very far as highways lie.
I might be back by nightfall, having seen
The rough pines, the stones, and the clear water.
Friends argue that I might be wiser for it.
They do not hear the far-off Yankee whisper;
How dull we grow from hurrying here and there.

Many have gone, and think me half a fool
To miss a day away in the cool country.
Maybe.  But in a book I read and cherish
Going to Walden's not so easy a thing
As a green visit.  It is the slow and difficult
Trick of living, and finding it where you are. 

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« Reply #3342 on: March 24, 2012, 09:38:27 PM »
iI like "Going to Walden" since I like Thoreau. And I didn't know about his laundry, but somehow, I'm not surprised! I did know that he went into concord a lot.

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« Reply #3343 on: March 25, 2012, 09:21:56 AM »
What clear images Heaney makes. I would know better now how to use a spade. And how to
de-ice a pump. That closing, obviously sexual reference in the closing lines was surprising
and odd, tho'.
  Then the next one,..the whitewashing...the idea that the only time a woman could get a
quiet, peaceful moment was while visiting the ..the what?  And a strange bird hanging
around for days after a serious injury was cause for dread. The 'bird of ill omen"? 
  This is a powerful poet. Ireland keeps being revealed to me with each one.
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« Reply #3344 on: March 28, 2012, 02:26:44 AM »
Good grief....I was lost in a research project...searching for a photo in old PC files, and came across something titled "Poetry Page".....clicked on it, and was shocked to find that Seniornet (now seniorlearn) was still rolling on.  I have no idea how I will get back to this page, but will post a note here and take a chance.  I was thinking it was a place to post poetry that you had written yourself, but I guess not, so I'm disappointed.  Still, I'm glad to find you are still here.

Sun  (sunknow)

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« Reply #3345 on: March 28, 2012, 08:39:11 AM »
 So glad you 'stumbled' across us, SUNKNOW.  We're not hard to find. Just type in SeniorLearn.
org. and you will find a place to register and an index to all the discussions.  Once you post in
any discussion, you can get back into it by simply clicking on "new answers  to my posts."
  Poetry's DL is  Barbara Aubrey.  I don't know whether you know her or not, but she really knows her poetry.
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« Reply #3346 on: March 29, 2012, 02:06:37 AM »
Glad you found us Sun - hope you do find us again, we mostly look at the work of other poets - some we know and love and others who are new to us - there is nothing against posting your own work but we have not focused on posting our individual efforts since there is so much we can benefit by reading the millions of published poets -

Seems to me I remember meeting you years ago at a luncheon in I think Round Rock and you were from Taylor or Rockdale or if not either in that general direction. Babi is over in Houston and I am down in Austin - there are a few others who join us however, Babi is there everytime we add a poem - so please join us - we would love your company.

Been tied up for a few days with clients and then went to a Lentil retreat - came back today in the pouring rain - whew what a gully washer - the streets were flash flooding raging rivers and for a while the fastest my windshield wipers flapped I wished they could have been even faster. Scary but we made it - the tension wore me out so I napped from 5: to 11: and now do not know if I should eat or what... maybe some fruit and a shower.
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« Reply #3347 on: March 29, 2012, 08:21:29 AM »
 Whoa! With a six-hour 'nap', you must have really been worn out.  You want to try and avoid
that much strain, friend.  We're not getting any younger and that sort of thing ages one fast.
I hope the retreat was restful.  I used to enjoy going to them.
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« Reply #3348 on: March 30, 2012, 01:01:13 AM »
Well, that's interesting...ran into two Texans already....LOL

Yes, Barb, that's me, only I was living in Tyler back then, and yes, I went to Round Rock for Lunch, and two or three of the Bashes also.  I live in a small town just outside of Tyler now, so not far from my 'ole stomping ground, and Tyler is still our main shopping and "doing" area.  Back then I was DL of the Texas Discussion.

Babi - I remember how to get around, so it's not so new afterall.  Yes, indeed, that Barbara knows her poetry.  Maybe she can come up with a rainy, stormy one as a tribute to her recent weather.  We had that for a while, but it's settled down, and just a few gentle rains the past couple of days.

I'll be back....poetry, anyone?

Sun

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« Reply #3349 on: March 30, 2012, 08:32:33 AM »
 I took a quick look at stormy weather poems, SUN, but they tend to be about emotional
storms.  I don't doubt BARB will be able to find the perfect one for us.  :)
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« Reply #3350 on: March 30, 2012, 12:00:26 PM »
aha the challenge is on - need to check some of my books but off the top of my head is always - Robert Frost.

A Line-Storm Song
          ~ Robert Frost

The line-storm clouds fly tattered and swift,
The road is forlorn all day,
Where a myriad snowy quartz stones lift,
And the hoof-prints vanish away.
The roadside flowers, too wet for the bee,
Expend their bloom in vain.
Come over the hills and far with me,
And be my love in the rain.

The birds have less to say for themselves
In the wood-world’s torn despair
Than now these numberless years the elves,
Although they are no less there:
All song of the woods is crushed like some
Wild, easily shattered rose.
Come, be my love in the wet woods; come,
Where the boughs rain when it blows.

There is the gale to urge behind
And bruit our singing down,
And the shallow waters aflutter with wind
From which to gather your gown.
What matter if we go clear to the west,
And come not through dry-shod?
For wilding brooch shall wet your breast
The rain-fresh goldenrod.

Oh, never this whelming east wind swells
But it seems like the sea’s return
To the ancient lands where it left the shells
Before the age of the fern;
And it seems like the time when after doubt
Our love came back amain.
Oh, come forth into the storm and rout
And be my love in the rain.

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« Reply #3351 on: March 30, 2012, 12:01:49 PM »
I like the imagery of this poem by Seamus Heaney

STORM ON THE ISLAND

We are prepared: we build our houses squat,
Sink walls in rock and roof them with good slate.
This wizened earth has never troubled us
With hay, so, as you see, there are no stacks
Or stooks that can be lost. Nor are there trees
Which might prove company when it blows full
Blast: you know what I mean - leaves and branches
Can raise a tragic chorus in a gale
So that you listen to the thing you fear
Forgetting that it pummels your house too.
But there are no trees, no natural shelter.
You might think that the sea is company,
Exploding comfortably down on the cliffs
But no: when it begins, the flung spray hits
The very windows, spits like a tame cat
Turned savage. We just sit tight while wind dives
And strafes invisibly. Space is a salvo,
We are bombarded with the empty air.
Strange, it is a huge nothing that we fear.
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« Reply #3352 on: March 30, 2012, 12:04:52 PM »
Of course our old Friend Emily always does us proud... Hehe instead of the wind rocking the grass we could substitute the car.

A Thunderstorm
          ~ by Emily Dickinson

The wind begun to rock the grass
With threatening tunes and low, -
He flung a menace at the earth,
A menace at the sky.

The leaves unhooked themselves from trees
And started all abroad;
The dust did scoop itself like hands
And throw away the road.

The wagons quickened on the streets,
The thunder hurried slow;
The lightning showed a yellow beak,
And then a livid claw.

The birds put up the bars to nests,
The cattle fled to barns;
There came one drop of giant rain,
And then, as if the hands

That held the dams had parted hold,
The waters wrecked the sky,
But overlooked my father's house,
Just quartering a tree.
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« Reply #3353 on: March 30, 2012, 04:11:34 PM »

The Bedroom with the writing desk of Emily Dickinson
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« Reply #3354 on: March 30, 2012, 07:12:28 PM »

Seamus Heaney's writing space
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« Reply #3355 on: March 31, 2012, 01:27:40 AM »
Barbara - Splendid selection re: my request for Stormy Poetry. 

I'd have a hard time choosing the best one.  It would depend on the mood of the moment. They are all very, very good.

Thank.  Sun

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« Reply #3356 on: March 31, 2012, 09:11:29 AM »
 Of course!  Robert Frost! How silly of me. I hadn't read this one before. Thank you so much.

 Seamus Heaney's island sounds so bleak. If this is where he grew up, I can see where the
strength, and even harshness, of his poetry comes from.

The lightning showed a yellow beak,
And then a livid claw.
Lightning does do that!  I never noticed. That, I imagine, is why Emily is a poet and I'm not. And she wrote on that tiny desk?!! Without that lamp, surely. There is not enough room left for a sheet of paper and an elbow. :)
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« Reply #3357 on: April 01, 2012, 12:46:44 PM »
Thought y'all may be interested in this bit that came today in my daily Poetry email

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Reading poetry well is part attitude and part technique. Curiosity is a useful attitude, especially when it’s free of preconceived ideas about what poetry is or should be. Effective technique directs your curiosity into asking questions, drawing you into a conversation with the poem.

In Great Books programs, the goal of careful reading is often to take up a question of meaning, an interpretive question that has more than one answer. Since the form of a poem is part of its meaning (for example, features such as repetition and rhyme may amplify or extend the meaning of a word or idea, adding emphasis, texture, or dimension), we believe that questions about form and technique, about the observable features of a poem, provide an effective point of entry for interpretation. To ask some of these questions, you’ll need to develop a good ear for the musical qualities of language, particularly how sound and rhythm relate to meaning. This approach is one of many ways into a poem.

Getting Started: Prior Assumptions

Most readers make three false assumptions when addressing an unfamiliar poem. The first is assuming that they should understand what they encounter on the first reading, and if they don’t, that something is wrong with them or with the poem. The second is assuming that the poem is a kind of code, that each detail corresponds to one, and only one, thing, and unless they can crack this code, they’ve missed the point. The third is assuming that the poem can mean anything readers want it to mean.

William Carlos Williams wrote a verse addressed to his wife in the poem "January Morning,":

    All this—
                    was for you, old woman.
    I wanted to write a poem
    that you would understand.
    For what good is it to me
    if you can’t understand it?
                    But you got to try hard—

Williams admits in these lines that poetry is often difficult. He also suggests that a poet depends on the effort of a reader; somehow, a reader must "complete" what the poet has begun.

This act of completion begins when you enter the imaginative play of a poem, bringing to it your experience and point of view. If a poem is "play" in the sense of a game or a sport, then you enjoy that it makes you work a little, that it makes you sweat a bit. Reading poetry is a challenge, but like so many other things, it takes practice, and your skills and insight improve as you progress.

Literature is, and has always been, the sharing of experience, the pooling of human understanding about living, loving, and dying. Successful poems welcome you in, revealing ideas that may not have been foremost in the writer’s mind in the moment of composition. The best poetry has a magical quality—a sense of being more than the sum of its parts—and even when it’s impossible to articulate this sense, this something more, the power of the poem is left undiminished.

Poems speak to us in many ways. Though their forms may not always be direct or narrative, keep in mind that a real person formed the moment of the poem, and it’s wise to seek an understanding of that moment. Sometimes the job of the poem is to come closer to saying what cannot be said in other forms of writing, to suggest an experience, idea, or feeling that you can know but not entirely express in any direct or literal way. The techniques of word and line arrangement, sound and rhythm, add to—and in some cases, multiply—the meaning of words to go beyond the literal, giving you an impression of an idea or feeling, an experience that you can’t quite put into words but that you know is real.
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« Reply #3358 on: April 01, 2012, 12:47:43 PM »
January Morning

Suite:

    I

        I HAVE discovered that most of
        the beauties of travel are due to
        the strange hours we keep to see them:

        the domes of the Church of
        the Paulist Fathers in Weehawken
        against a smoky dawn -- the heart stirred --
        are beautiful as Saint Peters
        approached after years of anticipation.

    II

        Though the operation was postponed
        I saw the tall probationers
        in their tan uniforms
                          hurrying to breakfast!

    III

        -- and from basement entries
        neatly coiffed, middle aged gentlemen
        with orderly moustaches and
        well-brushed coats

    IV

        -- and the sun, dipping into the avenues
        streaking the tops of
        the irregular red houselets,
                         and
        the gay shadows drooping and drooping.

    V

        -- and a young horse with a green bed-quilt
        on his withers shaking his head:
        bared teeth and nozzle high in the air!

    VI

        --and a semicircle of dirt-colored men
        about a fire bursting from an old
        ash can,

    VII

            -- and the worn,
        blue car rails (like the sky!)
        gleaming among the cobbles!

    VIII

        -- and the rickety ferry-boat "Arden"!
        What an object to be called "Arden"
        among the great piers, -- on the
        ever new river!
                 "Put me a Touchstone
        at the wheel, white gulls, and we'll
        follow the ghost of the Half Moon
        to the North West Passage -- and through!
        (at Albany!) for all that!"

    IX

        Exquisite brown waves -- long
        circlets of silver moving over you!
        enough with crumbling ice crusts among you!
        The sky has come down to you,
        lighter than tiny bubbles, face to
        face with you!
                His spirit is
        a white gull with delicate pink feet
        and a snowy breast for you to
        hold to your lips delicately!

    X

        The young doctor is dancing with happiness
        in the sparkling wind, alone
        at the prow of the ferry! He notices
        the curdy barnacles and broken ice crusts
        left at the slip's base by the low tide
        and thinks of summer and green
        shell-crusted ledges among
                    the emerald eel-grass!

    XI

        Who knows the Palisades as I do
        knows the river breaks east from them
        above the city -- but they continue south
        -- under the sky -- to bear a crest of
        little peering houses that brighten
        with dawn behind the moody
        water-loving giants of Manhattan.

    XII

        Long yellow rushes bending
        above the white snow patches;
        purple and gold ribbon
        of the distant wood:
               what an angle
        you make with each other as
        you lie there in contemplation.

    XIII

        Work hard all your young days
        and they'll find you too, some morning
        staring up under
        your chiffonier at its warped
        bass-wood bottom and your soul --
        out!
        -- among the little sparrows
        behind the shutter.

    XIV

        -- and the flapping flags are at
        half-mast for the dead admiral.

    XV

        All this --
            was for you, old woman.
        I wanted to write a poem
        that you would understand.
        For what good is it to me
        if you can't understand it?
               But you got to try hard --
        But --
              Well, you know how
        the young girls run giggling
        on Park Avenue after dark
        when they ought to be home in bed?
        Well,
        that's the way it is with me somehow.
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« Reply #3359 on: April 01, 2012, 12:48:32 PM »

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Spring Poetry

Eutopia
~ Francis Turner Palgrave

    THERE is a garden where lilies
        And roses are side by side;
    And all day between them in silence
        The silken butterflies glide.

    I may not enter the garden,
        Though I know the road thereto;
    And morn by morn to the gateway
        I see the children go.

    They bring back light on their faces;
        But they cannot bring back to me
    What the  lilies  say to the  roses,
        Or the songs of the butterflies be.
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