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« Reply #2240 on: October 27, 2015, 01:10:01 PM »
From The New Yorker:

Clinton, on the other hand, has made it clear that she is running as a progressive candidate; in the first Democratic debate, she defined herself as “a progressive who believes in getting things done.” To back up this talk, she has rolled out a series of proposals, including paid sick leave, expanded child care for preschoolers, a higher minimum wage, tax breaks for firms that promote employee share ownership, and a series of measures designed to make college more affordable. None of the things she has proposed is particularly radical, but taken together they amount to a concerted effort to tackle wage stagnation and boost the middle class.

Good summary of her actions so far, moving the country forward.

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« Reply #2241 on: October 27, 2015, 01:30:52 PM »
Yes, I have read reviews of the book and plan on getting it. She interestsme, one picture showed the young Ruth... What a knockout..Who knew??
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« Reply #2242 on: October 27, 2015, 03:52:48 PM »
Indeed!

And right on about Hilary Clinton, Jean.

She will be on the Late Show with Stephen Colbert tonight.

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« Reply #2243 on: October 28, 2015, 07:53:46 PM »
Yes, she was very good on Colbert. Relaxed and comfortable and fun. I think she's taking a page out of Obama's and Bill's book, be the person people would like to meet socially.

More craziness about Planned Parenthood and no ability of some rt-wing men to parce the issue of abortion as opposed to the GREAT thing Margaret Sanger did for the world by seeing that a birth control pill was developed! Are these guys 15 yrs old? They act like that is their mental capacity. I don't like to use labelling or name-calling, but I have not in my 74 yrs heard so many irrational, self-centered statements! Do they not have wives, mothers and dgts who love having the birth control pill?

http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/ted-cruz-vs-margaret-sangers-portrait?mbid=nl_151028_Daily&CNDID=38959653&spMailingID=8199239&spUserID=MTExMDk0NjYzMDk3S0&spJobID=783528448&spReportId=NzgzNTI4NDQ4S0

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« Reply #2244 on: October 29, 2015, 08:45:45 AM »
I know candidates just say what they think the public wants, but the republicans are so far over the top and away from what women think. Although Carly is also way out in la la land, but she also just knows that Hillary is scared of her..  I am glad that Hillary finally relaxed.. I suspect she can be funny and happy, but she has always been running for things.. Sad really.
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« Reply #2245 on: October 29, 2015, 09:32:22 AM »
This is really, really a hot button with me.  It has all of my long life astonished me that ALL women do not stand up on their tippy toes and scream at the constant put downs coming from the male overlords.
In previous centuries men frequently had two, three, even more wives in succession BECAUSE THEY DIED IN CHILDBIRTH.  Look at your own family trees, and you will find this over and over and over.
Even in the first decades of the 20th century most females were married before they got out of their teens.  The law was, and actually I believe it still is, that men had a legal right to demand their "conjugal rights," which meant the wife must assent to sex upon demand.  To refuse sex could mean automatic divorce (or in the Church, annulment), and being tossed out to terrifying lack of support for someone unskilled for the work force.
So women frequently got pregnant every year, until they died (in or from childbirth) or finally went through menopause and were no longer able to get pregnant.  Desperate ones turned to the local abortionists, and were lucky if they lived through that.  Frank Sinatra's mother was one in her neighborhood.  They were, actually, much more prevalent than they are today, as women helped women.
Then came our savior in the form of Margaret Sanger.  Her purpose was to free women from the necessity of enduring one pregnancy after another after another after another.  She brought us Birth Control.
Eugenics were a BIG THING at the same time.  Yes, read a history of it and discover the truth.  There were a lot of prominent people who were sold on it, and a lot of well credentialed American doctors who promoted it big time, especially for the mentally ill, feeble-minded, and races other than the white.  Yes, there were.  I am NOT making this up.
So the upshot was actually that it was difficult for anyone with any sort of public life whatsoever not to know some of these people.  Newspapers, magazines, books, letters and conversations were full of the subject.  Thus it was that Margaret Sanger became tainted with it:  it was a matter of her joining in the discussion.  She was never in and of herself a promoter of eugenics.  That was never her passion.  Making it possible for women to control the size of their families for not only their own lives and health, but for the health and well being of their children WAS her passion, and I, for one, will thank her with all of my heart to my dying day.
The lying is despicable.  But WHY oh WHY aren't ALL women protesting strenuously?  I just don't get it!
Oh, and one last, but very important tidbit.  Margaret Sanger was opposed to abortion.  She was never, ever, an advocate for abortion and did not want her clinics to have any part in it.  So why is she The Great Villain?  To this very day, why is she so dreadful that murderers and rapists and tyrants can be in the Smithsonian, but she cannot?  She brought us Birth Control and some freedom from the physical toll of constant pregnancy.  That's it.  That's ALL.
Think about it.  She brought womankind a sense of control over her own body.  A sense of freedom and well being.  Whoops! 
Males possessed of a strong domineering streak did not and STILL DO NOT approve of THAT!  Analytic, intelligent, thinking men such as my husband approved strongly, and could see the benefits to themselves, as well.  But men who are afraid of the potential that threatens their domination rights due just to their gender quite simply cannot bear women to have any control whatsover over their reproductive histories.

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« Reply #2246 on: October 30, 2015, 10:38:39 AM »
I remember and see just how many of the polygamist are into no birth control to this day..Very patriarchal.. even that silly  Sister Wives program, the women seem to be into babies and more babies. sad really.
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« Reply #2247 on: November 06, 2015, 04:43:11 PM »
MP how is the back?

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« Reply #2248 on: November 07, 2015, 01:45:15 PM »
Not my back, but my right leg.  https://www.google.com/search?q=sciatic+nerve&biw=800&bih=447&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMI06mR1Pr-yAIVgdQmCh3leAjn

The Sciatic Nerve runs from your butt down your leg and into your foot.  When it is compressed in the spine, which most certainly IS your back, it is the butt and leg and foot that kill you every step that you try to take.

Two of my children went with me to the pain management doctor yesterday.  He has put me on Tramadol, a pain med, and Gabapentin, a seizure med which seems to help Sciatica, and they say right in the literature that they have no idea why this is so.  My daughter Pam took Gabapentin when she had Sciatica in her left leg (mine is in the right one) and my daughter Becky took it when she had Shingles.  Also, I am to have a second surgical procedure on Tuesday:  lumbar nerve root block.  I already have an appointment to see a spine surgery doctor on December 2nd if these measures do not fix me.  I sure do NOT want to have to have surgery.

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« Reply #2249 on: November 07, 2015, 04:27:08 PM »
MaryPage I put up with this a couple of years ago - as I understand it, all our nerves are based in our spine that like the cables for the Phone and TV that run through the streets there is a space I did not realize within our spine where all these nerves are like cable bundles and then as a phone cable would branch off to each house so the nerves that affect various parts of our body branch off -

I learned, as we age the area where these nerve 'cables' are running through our spine not only shrinks in size but fills with something like plaque so it is easier to damage nerves - the one that you speak of that does go across the butt, into the hip and down our leg has a twin that will affect our bowel and bladder so you have no control - learning that I thought was helping me see it could be worse.

Anyhow I did learn that nerve damage takes minimum a year to a year and a half to heal - For me I had a back problem with a herniates disk in the lumbar region that I was seeking some relief from a chiropractor who was so busy talking to a friend who came by that he put pressure in the wrong way on my lower spine - did not know at the time what happened - could not walk upright and the pain till finally went to the Spine clinic at Seton Hospital and they took a MRI - the doctor was very good and showed me the nerve damage and how I could tell it was recent and what the old damage was.

He explained how long it took for nerves to heal and gave me some meds to help with the pain and offered a cortisone shot right in the nerve that was damaged - I do not like using cortisone so I declined but then two months later I realized I had a long plane trip to see a grandson graduate who was valedictorian and did not want to miss it - the injection of cortisone is an outpatient procedure that does include spinal anesthesia and not quite an overall numbing but enough that it disorientates you and you cannot drive home.

All the cortisone does, he explained is stop the pain for a few months giving the nerves a chance to heal - and that is the purpose of any pain med for spinal pain - he explained and it made sense, it is not the bones that make up the spine that cause pain it is the nerves that are bundled in the channel in our spine that are damaged or the space between bones that there is just enough tissue left without enough cushion so that those nerves are affected.   

He also said do not do any exercise where I twist my body - but do exercises that stretch the back like sitting on the floor and reaching as if diving to touch my toes.

He had a great web site showing all this but some of the insurance companies that some of the patients use objected and the hospital cannot successfully operate by eliminating patients and so a generic youtube was put up, some of which he actually told me contained the worst advise for elders, who most likely are suffering from this shrinking nerve passage.
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« Reply #2250 on: November 08, 2015, 08:45:29 AM »
Sciatica pain seems to be long lasting.. It was the only time in my motherinlaws life that she consented to a doctor and actualy went into the hospital for treatment..
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« Reply #2251 on: November 08, 2015, 01:32:42 PM »
Started many years ago with problems in my foot big toe was killing me. Went to fancy blood vessel dr in
Bellevue and she said your in  the wrong place I said I figured that out and I was going to my Dr on Friday.She said who is your Dr., Dr Neiman she said you are in the right place.Went in he checked said "the nerves in your feet and legs are going to hell and there is nothing to do for it" he tried gabapentin nothing really nothing. Then he tried Lyrcia saved my life and if I forget the feet let me know I feel so lucky he knew about that medicine.

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« Reply #2252 on: November 09, 2015, 08:16:40 AM »
Lucky you, Judy, Maybe you can help MaryPage find the right place.
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« Reply #2253 on: November 09, 2015, 09:20:16 AM »
Thanks, Judy;  and yes, Lyrcia is next on the list of meds they will prescribe for me if the ones I am taking now don't do the job we are hoping they will do.

Little by little, I improve.  Tomorrow morning I will go off early early to the surgical center once again and have another lumbar nerve root block.  Every day is full of hope.

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« Reply #2254 on: November 09, 2015, 03:09:10 PM »
MP Lyrica  latterly saved me the pain from my neuropothy is severe but not with lyrica

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« Reply #2255 on: November 09, 2015, 04:53:49 PM »
Judy, will that be a FOREVER pain?  We are hoping mine can be fixed and I will have no more pain.

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« Reply #2256 on: November 10, 2015, 07:48:57 AM »
Neuropathy if it is diabetic is generally forever.  Cant say I like the list of Christmas books.. mostly romance writers.. even the Evanovich is a bit on the soppy side.
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« Reply #2257 on: November 10, 2015, 11:31:45 AM »
I agree Steph on the list of Books for Christmas the one that is meaningful is the one that has to do with the business women who helps out a young boy and keeps that relationship for years and years helping him become what we all hope for and wish for any child.

Again, these were simply some of the books published this year and except for that one the others were not deep enough for a discussion and so we decided to keep the discussion to the Adventures of Pinocchio until December 18 and then from the December 19 through the end of the month we pop in to say Hi, Happy Holiday and we will talk about what holiday books we are each reading, what books we gave as gifts, any special book-reading coffee, tea or wine break we arranged for ourselves and to describe any holiday menu and decor in the coffee shop in the bookstore.

It would be nice if it turns out a couple of us are reading the same holiday book and we can chat back and forth about it. And so, the soppy ones can be for those who like a bit of fluff over the holidays - I will be really interested to hear what holiday book published in the past couple of years you choose to read Steph - you may be a guide for those of us who prefer a more meaty book.

I like the Irish Doctor books that Taylor writes but they too are only one step up from fluff - never did get into Evans or what is that female author that writes about a cleric in Appalachia - she is prolific and her books are not just taking place over the holidays but she too has one published just about every holiday season. 

Please if anyone comes upon a recently published holiday book with meat on its bones let us know - without parking myself for hours in Barnes and Noble, finding this needle in the haystack of holiday books is daunting.
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« Reply #2258 on: November 10, 2015, 02:36:38 PM »
My pain is neuropathy and it will only get worse and may travel up my legs .I  have NO PAIN with Lyricia and will take it til I die

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« Reply #2259 on: November 10, 2015, 04:15:03 PM »
Oh, Judy.  Tears of sorrow from me that this is so.

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« Reply #2260 on: November 11, 2015, 08:28:03 AM »
Barb,, truth is I dont generally read themed books on Christmas or holidays, seems to be the only one I liked, was a Charlotte McLeod..It was laugh out loud funny.. hmm, I love Terry Pratchett who was a science fiction writer who satirized everything, maybe I will look and see if he tackled Christmas.. Possibly with Mort... hmm. or the witches.
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« Reply #2261 on: November 11, 2015, 10:18:17 AM »
Me, too, Steph.  We are exactly in sync there.  I screamed with laughter over Charlotte McLeod's REST YOU MERRY.  Wasn't that the one!  I truly don't think anyone could possibly find that book anything but hilarious.  Excepting mebbe those who decorate their own homes and lawns with a bazillion lights and so forth.  They would probably hate that book.

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« Reply #2262 on: November 12, 2015, 08:13:27 AM »
McLeon was always funny, although I like the Boston ones the best.
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« Reply #2263 on: November 12, 2015, 04:53:17 PM »
No Mary Page this cannot be fixed and will not go away. I asked ny DR if I would be in a wheel chair and he said he didn't think so .Without  Lyrica  I would probably be a addict

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« Reply #2264 on: November 12, 2015, 06:06:04 PM »
Oh dear Judy - I think you are saying you have nerve damage that is permanent - thank god there is something offering you some relief - they say aging is not for the weak - you help us see the courage it takes to age with body damage. 
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« Reply #2265 on: November 13, 2015, 07:44:35 AM »
Judy, I only met you in person at the bookies south carolina journey, but you are brave and funny and honest. I know that you live with it and keep going ahead.
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« Reply #2266 on: November 13, 2015, 10:20:29 AM »
So hard.  So very hard.  Not fair.  Oh, the frailties of the human body.  I feel such overwhelming empathy.

If you get a chance, and if you have any interest whatsoever in autism, as I know you share that interest with me, Steph, you should watch the movie titled:  TEMPLE GRANDIN.  Claire Danes plays the lead, and she is beyond amazing.

Temple Grandin is now a grown woman with a Ph.D.  She is fully autistic.  She has written books on the subject.

The movie is currently available ON DEMAND through the HBO channel movie listing.  It is a true story, nothing about it is made up.

http://www.templegrandin.com/

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« Reply #2267 on: November 14, 2015, 08:30:37 AM »
Dont do HBO for a variety of reasons, but will put it on a list to check on net flix, etc and look for in specialty areas.. She is a different type of autism , since my grandson is Asburgers and communication for him is not easy under any circumstances, but he is loving the guitar lessons.
So the Supreme Court is going to look at the Texas rules for abortion clinics.. Hm.. now if they were honest and not using their religion or other reasons and just look at it,but some of them make up their own rules.
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« Reply #2268 on: November 14, 2015, 12:11:56 PM »
I believe Temple Grandin has an Asperger's diagnosis as well, and all, but I believe also that each individual is different from each other and none of them are identical cookie cutter replicas of one another.  It is all about the wiring in the brain, and has been such a calamity over the centuries in that we have treated these often highly gifted children and adults as feeble minded misfits who should be institutionalized and forgotten.  Good grief, we might not as yet have the computer were it not for one of these:  Alan Turing!

Well, Temple's mother refused to hide her away in an institution.

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« Reply #2269 on: November 16, 2015, 12:23:17 PM »
I have missed the beginning of this discussion, so please excuse me if I'm repeating something or saying the wrong thing, but I was just this morning talking to a friend who was diagnosed with Asperger's a few years ago. We were talking about how this seems to be the flavour of the month in the UK, with Asperger's diagnoses being given out right, left and centre. I do not for one moment wish to suggest that people with severe Asperger's don't have it, but many counsellors here (some of whose qualifications are at best questionable) are starting to apply it to everyone they see. My friend has now been told by an NHS psychiatrist that she does not and did not have Asperger's and that the (private) counsellor who told her she did didn't even do the tests right.

I feel that in this country at least there is a growing tendency to label everyone who does not conform to a false 'norm' dictated by the loudest people. If you don't like parties and you find large groups hard work, there's something wrong with you - whereas when i was a teenager, it was just accepted that some people were more sociable than others. If a person is happy in their own skin, surely that is all that is important? I so agree with you MaryPage that everyone is an individual with their own ways of doing things - forcing everyone to fit a stereotype causes far more problems than accepting that we are all different would.

There is another good film, I think it is called Adam, about a boy who has Asperger's but ends up working at CERN in Switzerland.

I also recall seeing a documentary about a young maths genius who was offered tuition at Oxford at a young age (as he was totally bored at school). His mother asked the head of department if her son would be OK considering he was Aspergic. 'Oh no problem' said the tutor. 'they all are in this department'.

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« Reply #2270 on: November 16, 2015, 01:29:40 PM »
Whatever happened to the lovable, endearing 'norm' of English eccentricity?

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« Reply #2271 on: November 16, 2015, 01:31:49 PM »
Quite - that's exactly what I think.  So boring when everyone's the same.

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« Reply #2272 on: November 16, 2015, 02:09:01 PM »
I think being different is at odds with today's desire to eliminate 'risk' - being different means you are not living up to today's standards and you are not an accepted part of the group that means you are vulnerable on many fronts.

I copied this from an article written the day after the Paris attacks - it resonated with me on so many levels and it seems to fit what y'all are saying.

“Zero risk” doesn’t exist.

Our so-called “modern” society believes in the principle of “zero.” Zero imperfections, zero stock, zero error, zero risk!

It’s a huge farce, it doesn’t exist, despite all the speeches that you might hear in medicine, politics, and especially, in management! Life is all about risk!

It’s about knowing how to accept it; “risk management” is nothing more than a day to day learning process, often painful, and always delicate. There is no truly comprehensive insurance!

Faced with each decision, personal or professional, we are alone as individuals with our choices and our doubts, and these attacks cruelly remind us of this! That’s what being human is about.

Accepting vulnerability is a strength.

Our society favors strength, commitment, competition, power, ostentation…“values” that only lead to insult, to war, and to these attacks that claim to be demonstrations of strength, and that seek to escalate violence.

These attacks show us that we are vulnerable. Don’t deny it! Vulnerability isn’t an admission of weakness! We can turn it into a strength! We must turn it into a strength! It’s by changing the hierarchy of values that we will steer the world toward change.


Of course it is depressing to deal with someone who is afraid of their vulnerability, who then typically reacts by putting down anyone that shows a sign of what they consider weakness. 
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« Reply #2273 on: November 16, 2015, 02:29:26 PM »
Am the  type   of  person who when is told " the nerves in your feet  are going to hell and there is  othing y5can do about it " I say OK and just do it whatever THAT is.

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« Reply #2274 on: November 16, 2015, 02:38:59 PM »
So true Barb.

And I feel that this risk-averseness (probably not a word, but I will take that chance  :D) is driven to a large extent by money. We mustn't take any risks because if we do and something 'goes wrong' someone will be advised to sue us, and our insurers will say our cover is invalidated because we didn't take all possible precautions. (And I say that as a former lawyer.)

I know that doesn't extrapolate directly to 'eccentric' or 'unusual' behaviour, but I can't help feeling it's all connected. Society, as you say, is scared of difference. I believe we should celebrate difference. Unless someone is hurting someone else, why shouldn't they do their own thing?

One of the things I like about my younger daughter's Steiner School is that it doesn't value conformity above all else. I think that is a good example to set, even if its wilder aspects do drive me nuts at times (eg - 'if I ordered a turkey from the farm for Christmas, could you deliver it before 25th December?' - 'hmm... maybe' :-) )

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« Reply #2275 on: November 17, 2015, 08:30:18 AM »
Having a grandson with definite Asburgers.. He is different indeed.. I am not particularly a social person and have an older son who is an engineer and simply dislikes crowds of any type,, does not do chatting, but is a healthy happy individual, so I have seen the difference. My grandson is simply bewildered, when a teacher asks about friends.. Hmm, he has some, but they all game players on line, never in person. Paying attention in school.. I think he tries, but his attention span except for games is close to zero. Talking,,, why would he want to.. looking at people.,. again not something that occurs. Touching anyone makes him truly uncomfortable.. He is subject to bullying because they aggressive boys know he hates being touched.. So from my point, Asburgers is out there,, and you can see it clearly..
Some Asburgers have an affinity and there is a theory that they are much brighter than others, but that tends to be very skewed, since they are generally bright in one small area.
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« Reply #2276 on: November 17, 2015, 09:32:36 AM »
We need to teach ourselves and our families to identify with one another and to have empathy with one another and to find our differences things of interest to us and not things that threaten us.

There is a poison afflicting the minds of some overly excited young men bubbling over and wanting to kill, kill, kill.  We all know that.  We all recognize that.  Why can we not analyze  the threat accurately and correctly and stop trying to label whole religions or countries or races as guilty?  Why can we not conduct ourselves as sane adults and simply do all we can to protect ourselves in sensible ways without being ugly about all outsiders?  The Stranger may be the Christ Child in disguise;  remember that story told us when we were children?  The principle is the thing.  Goodness offered a stranger will come full circle.  Your own children may cross this planet and find themselves in need of refuge.  You would want those differently garbed and perhaps differently colored arms to reach out to your children and pull them in to safety and offer them sustenance and shelter until the danger passes.

Yes, right here in the United States in the 20th century we labeled children who marched to a different drummer feeble-minded imbeciles whose behavior should not be an affliction to the public at large OR their own families, but should be locked away in institutions until they mercifully died.  We considered them unbearably ugly to behold, and so we encouraged their families to shove them out of the family circle and forget them forever.  We are taught that different is not to be desired.  Different is UGLY, and ugly is hateful.

I think we all need to pause and consider redefining ugly.

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« Reply #2277 on: November 18, 2015, 08:29:04 AM »
well said.. My older son did not speak until he was three, not a sound.. so we were sent off for people to figure out what was happening. The state paid for it and it was quite interesting.. He started speaking spontaneously and we never knew just why, but he was quite bright and by 4 decided to read and taught himself.. But and this was scary.. he was in a group during the testing of 8 children.. They all had a variety of problems.. 5 of the 8 ended up being sent to institutions of various types.. 2 of them had parents with money and they ended up in high end places and that helped.. the other 3, one was mine, and the other two had various deafness.. They were sent off to the deaf school at 5.. Whew..I ended up with the only one that just did not have a problem, other than not having anything to say.
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« Reply #2278 on: November 28, 2015, 10:08:12 PM »
MJ how is your sciatica?  Can't spell

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« Reply #2279 on: November 29, 2015, 08:50:10 AM »
Spelling perfect.  Sciatica ghastly, but only half as bad as it was, so I guess I'm getting better.  Walking still a painful ordeal, but I can sleep now.

I am not so out of it that I don't feel outrage over the shootings at Planned Parenthood in Colorado.  Why is it the radical right can make a saint out of Ronald Reagan (as if!) and yet we cannot even make household names out of the martyrs Dr. David Gunn, Dr. John Britton, James Barrett, Shannon Lowney, Lee Ann Nichols, Robert Sanderson, Dr. Barnett Slepian, Dr. George Tiller and others?  They all died from Christian Terrorism, but, apparently because the public at large does not want to admit that that is what it is, all is covered up as speedily as possible, while Islamic Terrorism is drummed into our minds on a daily basis.

Dr. Tiller was in church when he was shot to death!  Talk about values!  Our are terribly, terribly skewed.