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marjifay

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« Reply #960 on: October 18, 2013, 11:49:19 AM »

Women's Issues
If Art imitates Life, what does Literature show about the place of women in our society? From the Red Tent to the new movie Anna Karenina,  to Malala Yousafzai in the news, has the state of women changed? What IS the state of women today, in your opinion?

Let's talk about how women are portrayed in the press, and in literature, and how accurate it is.   How does advertising reflect, if it does, how women are portrayed?  (Remember heels and pearls to sell refrigerators?)

How does it seem to you that women are portrayed today?

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I don't know much about the Masons  (my dad was one), but what I fear is all those idiot Tea Party types who voted to keep the government shut down and to let the U.S. go into default on its obligations.  Thank goodness, the Republican House representative from my Southern California area voted with the Democrats to accept the Reid/McConnell agreement to end this scary nonsense.

That women who shouted out in the House sounded confused.  As if perhaps she needs some psychiatric help.  I believe all those tea party jerks must also need psychiatric help.

Marj
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« Reply #961 on: October 18, 2013, 12:34:09 PM »
She was a stenographer working on the House floor that evening of the big vote.  And they say she got up ever so calmly and went over and took up the microphone and no one stopped her because all thought it was something legitimate.  And then she began ranting about a house divided and the Freemasons controlling the country ever since our beginnings and how we need to accept Jesus Christ as our Saviour.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/18/house-stenographer-speaks-out-about-bizarre-floor-outburst-the-holy-spirit-has-been-waking-me-up-to-deliver-a-message/

As you can see, her husband calls her a "woman of God" and says he is proud of her.  She says the Holy Spirit had been telling her to do this for some time now.  I am certain she is a Tea Party sympathizer.

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« Reply #962 on: October 18, 2013, 12:52:52 PM »
Yesterday afternoon Wayne Gilchrest sat in his office in a place called Knocks Folly on Maryland's Eastern Shore and watched a fox run across a field.
That's not a bad way to spend an autumn afternoon; gazing out the window of an 18th-century house in Kent County, resting after a day spent preparing for the arrival of schoolchildren eager to plant trees or paddle a canoe on the Sassafras River.
Gilchrest, a moderate Republican who was put out to pasture by a very conservative one in the 2008 primary, teaches kids about the environment. They come on field trips from schools in Kent, Queen Anne's and Cecil counties to the nonprofit Sassafras Environmental Education Center. They learn about wetlands and farming, about wildlife and the importance of forests.
Gilchrest loves the work, though the kids take their toll.
"Some days," he says, "at the end of the day, I feel 150 years old."
Gilchrest is 67. He was a schoolteacher once upon a time, a Vietnam veteran, too. He went to Congress in 1990, representing the 1st District [MD]. He was in the House of Representatives for 18 years. He served through the government shutdown of the Clinton era, after a wave of conservatives won House seats and Newt Gingrich became speaker.
"It was a more congenial time," Gilchrest says of his first few years in the House. "We didn't have the bitterness you see today. I used to sit near Ron Paul, who was conservative on social issues but an expert on foreign policy; I loved to talk to him. And I sat near Walter Jones, who was a very conservative representative from North Carolina; he didn't like [George W.] Bush because he didn't think he was a good Christian. We had great conversations.
"There wasn't any animosity. It was Tom DeLay and Dick Armey who brought that to Washington."
Armey and DeLay, Texas Republicans, served consecutively as House majority leaders. They were in the vanguard of the Republican revolution of 1994.
"They talked about the Democrats being the enemy," says Gilchrest. "That's when that started."
He's talking about bitterness, animosity and politicians so ideologically driven that give-and-take seemed impossible. Rhetoric became harsher, views more strident, negative and personal.
By then, Gilchrest was accused of being a Republican in name only. "Moderate Republican" became an oxymoron.
Andy Harris, a Republican state senator well to the right of Gilchrest ideologically, was able to unseat him in 2008, the year of Barack Obama.
Since then, Gilchrest has watched Washington from across the Chesapeake Bay. For three years, he's been running the outdoor classes at Sassafras, teaching "everything from photosynthesis to phytoplankton to bald eagles."
It sounds like the great escape, but Gilchrest still pays attention to what happens on Capitol Hill.
"Today," he says, "no one seems to care about getting good information and making good public policy. That's what you're supposed to do in Congress — work with people, listen to them, find out the good information, evaluate the facts and pursue good policy. And you do it with integrity. You debate it. You talk. You negotiate.
"And the bottom line is, you believe in the republic. You believe in our system."
You don't try to tear it down by bringing it to the brink of disaster.
"After you debate, you vote, and the majority rules. ... This tea party is something different than what I say."
Certainly Gilchrest encountered extreme ideologues in his travel — particularly, he says, when he campaigned or attended town halls in northern Baltimore and Harford counties.
"I found a lot of people vicious and vindictive," he says, "about guns, God, gays, abortion, the war in Iraq. They weren't interested in information. They got attached to an ideology."
Gilchrest speaks there of the so-called culture wars. Now, with the tea party faction in the House, there's a different force at work.
"And I don't know what to make of it exactly," he says. "It's kind of hard to wrap your head around the tea party — they seem to be about taking the government down. They seem to be an offshoot of the conservative movement of Dick Armey, who has a bizarre obsession with almost every form of government assistance, including Legal Aid for the poor."
(After serving in Congress, Armey became the leader of a tea party-affiliated group.)
Gilchrest was not in Congress when the Affordable Care Act came up for a vote. That was three years ago, and yet the measure that has come to be known as Obamacare has been constantly attacked by the right — to the point of shutting down the government and risking default on the nation's debts.
"There's a bizarre mix of people opposed to [the ACA]," says Gilchrest. "But why? Where's the empathy? Where's the conscience? 'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.' Where's that? 'Love thy neighbor.' Where's that? I think we have a political system infiltrated by sociopaths."





 

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« Reply #963 on: October 19, 2013, 11:04:08 AM »
Amen. fundamentalists are a curse on humanity..
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« Reply #964 on: October 20, 2013, 11:05:02 PM »
Double Amen from here in Australia! I did watch a program about your impasse, but I was no wiser when it finished :)
I'm certain you'd find some(no make that all) of our Pollies just as baffling and clueless.
Just for starters, our Liberal Party are the far right Conservatives. The 'liberal' party should be Labor, but both parties are on a race to the bottom.
One of our Politicians, Clive Palmer a billionaire(we think, he says he doesn't know how much money he has) wondered aloud what he could spend his money on. Then he plumped for building a replica of the Titanic in all its luxury and excess.
God forgive me, I wanted to murder him. So many dying and sick children. So many struggling, needy charities, and he builds the Titanic.
They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance. Sir Terry Pratchett.

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« Reply #965 on: October 20, 2013, 11:11:24 PM »
Good grief! The man's skiting about a cameo role in Titanic2. What about Policies? Action? I rest my case!
They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance. Sir Terry Pratchett.

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« Reply #966 on: October 21, 2013, 07:24:46 AM »
A basic primer in what happened here, Octavia:
Several years ago the Senate and the House of Representatives passed a new health bill, correctly titled the Affordable Care Act, and the President signed it into law.
Presidents had been trying for over 100 years to pass a national law regarding health care.   Republicans (Nixon, for one) and Democrats had tried.  And failed.  Loud voices always scream above the pack:  "Socialism!  Socialism!  Socialism!"
Me, I wanted a single payer law, very like Canada's.  What we got as a compromise was about as far from Socialism as you can get:  we got a Republican bill based upon a plan originally developed by a Republican think tank and implemented first by a Republican governor, later a presidential candidate, Mitt Romney in Massachusetts.  The plan is working just great in that state.
But there is a group of the far right wing that hates Obama so much it makes them sick to their stomachs and keeps them awake nights.  So they quickly declared this plan "Obamacare" and have done everything they can to bring it down.  By the way, the government of the U.S. does not pay the medical bills.  Each state has an "exchange" made up of all the insurance companies licensed to be in the business of selling health insurance in that state.  Only now, instead of the public not knowing which plan gives what, they have to publicly list their coverage and premiums.  This public scrutiny has caused them to bring down their rates, as had the promise of a larger pool of insured.  And every American has to choose one of these policies, just as every driving American has to have automobile insurance.  Americans already covered may continue the coverage they have now.  This exchange is for those not presently insured.

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« Reply #967 on: October 21, 2013, 07:34:41 AM »
So it came time to raise the debt ceiling so that our government could legally pay out the money owed because our congress had already approved the spending.  We have been raising this ceiling ever since we became a nation.  Inflation, you know!  The $2,600.00 per year which my first husband was earning in 1949 and which fed, housed and clothed our little family back then, has to be at least $50,000.00 these days!
So a small group of said far right refused to do this.  Let the country default on its bills!  Let the government shut down and almost a million people not get their paychecks because they would not vote to fund the government!  No matter!
They held this gun to President Obama's head and said that unless he agreed to sign their bill to defund the Affordable Care Act (the funding being administrative) and therefore scuttle it completely, they would not vote funds to run the government and pay this nation's debts.  It was blackmail, pure and simple, and the like has never been seen or heard in our history!
Obama did not cave in to their demands.  They had to cave at the very last moment, and after the government had been shut down for over 2 weeks.
Now they claim the whole shebang is all Obama's fault!  Blows my mind, it does.  Pure undiluted MOXIE!

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« Reply #968 on: October 21, 2013, 09:07:05 AM »
I gather Cruz yesterday feels that this is the only objective the republicans should have. How sad and more important how stupid..
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« Reply #969 on: October 21, 2013, 02:47:55 PM »
Good summary, MaryPage!

MaryPage

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« Reply #970 on: October 21, 2013, 04:52:18 PM »
Thank you, Jean.  I was attempting, of course, to tell a citizen of a foreign country (we love Our Aussies!), without boring her to death, what the matter boils down to.

Octavia, you may well wonder why these few Tea Party zealots have a following.  And the answer is that these elected officials go home to their districts and get up on their stumps at rallies and tell the voters outright lies.  "Obamacare is hurting millions of people."  Hasn't hurt a single person.  "Obamacare  is runaway Socialism."  Obamacare is pure Capitalism.  All health care policies are purchased by individuals (and families) from profit making or coop type ("mutual") insurance companies.  Every insurance company licensed to do business in any state can sell their policies through this "Affordable Care Act" called Obamacare.

They get apoplectic over the thought that a black man is President of their country.  Pure and Simple.  Many, many members of their own political party do not share their view.  These Tea Party Republicans do not want Barack Obama to go down in the history books as a great president who brought Health Care to the 47 million uninsured in our country.  They want to do everything they can to insure that his presidency fails.  Seriously.  It is sickening behavior.

We have rabid Obama haters on the radio airwaves and on Fox Television, as well.  They call our president unfit for office, an alien, a Muslim, a citizen of Kenya in Africa, and want to Impeach him!  

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« Reply #971 on: October 21, 2013, 05:03:28 PM »
Octavia, an example.  And I am being totally serious here, I have seen this clip on our television news several times.  It really happened and it is truly typical of what they are saying and thinking.  Did I REALLY say thinking?

A member of congress was ranting to a reporter about Obama not being qualified under our constitution to be president because he was born in Kenya (he was born in Hawaii, one of our 50 states), and he went on and on.  When he took a breath, the reporter asked him how come the records in the Hawaiian newspaper files showed his birth announcement under "Records."  That means, I am sure you know, that the listings come from the city or county directly to the newspaper for printing.  Depending upon the population size of the area the paper serves, the local government may provide these statistics on a weekly or monthly basis.  I know:  I used to work for a newspaper and pick them up at the County Building once a month eons ago.  They are OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT records.  Marriages, Deaths and Births.  So this reporter wanted this congressman to explain how this happened way back when.

And the congressman, I swear, said they probably telegraphed the information to the papers from Kenya.

Like they KNEW he would be president from his birth!  A colossal conspiracy!

Yes, Octavia, people believe this ****!

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« Reply #972 on: October 22, 2013, 03:29:45 AM »
I don't  understand what would be the wrong if he was born in Kenya.  If his mother is American she just has to register his birth with the US Embassy.  John McCain was born in Panama.  Also, what if he was a Muslim -- don't we have freedom of religion here.  Two members of House are Muslims.  Oh well, there is no use trying to understand these folks.

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« Reply #973 on: October 22, 2013, 07:06:16 AM »
You are right, on both points.  I agree.  Truth is Truth.

These folks don't want to hear real facts.  They do not want to consider or apply the laws as they actually exist.

This is the same bunch that has wanted our nation to be a Muslim-hating nation ever since 9/11.  They want us to go to war and wipe out the entire world of any Muslims.  I don't think they ever connect the dots about anything, or read the real news.  There are at least three million citizens of these United States who are Muslims, perhaps more.  The rabid fundamentalist Muslims who brought about 9/11 are at war with main stream Muslims throughout the Middle East.  There they are killing people with bombings almost on a daily basis, trying to turn their religion back to the Middle Ages.  The devout citizens of those states fear them just as much as we do. 

But Tea Party folks don't dwell on the facts on the ground.  I sense they love the adrenalin rush they get from hating and shouting hateful slogans.  Their swaggering postures make them feel powerful and righteous.

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« Reply #974 on: October 22, 2013, 01:30:58 PM »
I believe the issue of where a person was born...and Obama was born in the US...in the state of Hawaii, which some seem to have a problem understanding.  

 The issue with McCain and being a "natural-born American" was that his father was a US Naval officer and John was born on a US military base in the Canal Zone.  I think most everyone would agree that's a US citizen from birth.

Source:  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html?_r=0

I know Schwartzenegger (or however that is spelled...you know who I mean, I'm sure) is not a possible President because he was born in Germany/Austria or wherever...not in the US or its territories or military bases, etc.

I can only conclude that people make us issues when they have no real issues to use to oppose this or that candidate for whatever office.  I've seen it in local politics, and it's obvious in national as well.  Remember when a fellow was dogged to death because he'd sought mental health help.  Good grief....getting help was a terrible thing, according to the opposition...while we have, obviously to me anyway, a lot of present politicians who could use some serious mental health help...esp. in regards to integrity and honesty in what they say.

I've looked it up and it was Thomas Eagleton, seeking help for depression....and then columnist Jack Anderson spread false information about him.  See:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/frenzy/eagleton.htm

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« Reply #975 on: October 23, 2013, 09:16:01 AM »
I saw something on Facebook about the woman in Texas who led the filibuster and I believe is running for Governor or planning to. It was some sort of group that plans on doing nothing but putting her down. How Weird..
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« Reply #976 on: October 23, 2013, 09:52:11 AM »
Same methodology they have been using with every ounce of energy in them against Obama these past years.  Fortunately, they are beginning to look ridiculous rather than serious to the general public.  At first, folks thought if they said it right up front, it must be gospel truth.  Now people are beginning to see it ain't necessarily so.
I saw a clip on last night's news where a Fox talking head was telling the nation that thousands of people have signed up for Obamacare and promptly lost their life savings!
Oh, and one where Michelle Bachman is asserting at the very top of her lungs that millions will DIE under Obamacare!  Yes!  Yes!  Millions of babies and children and old people will DIE!
Incredible the lies people will tell and the lies that will be believed!
Having grown up with and lived with, within and without myself, a sense of what truth and honor and respect and responsibility really, really mean, this new normal makes my mouth drop open down to my toes and my mind feel as though it might just explode at any moment.
Apparently the litany is this:  ANY means is alright and justified to bring about the desired end.

Our grandparents, parents, teachers and preachers worked so very hard to teach us the exact opposite!

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« Reply #977 on: October 23, 2013, 08:26:56 PM »
Isn't life strange? We accept without question that our politicians are born in other countries. Our present PM Tony Abbott was born in England I think, and a former PM Julia Gillard came from Wales.
Christine Kneally(sp?) the former Premier of NSW was from Canada, and had a strong Canadian accent.. Perhaps the difference is that these are all Commonwealth countries. Horses for courses.
Someone once argued with me that Tasmanians weren't Australians. Just because there's a strait between the mainland and Tasmania, doesn't change the nationality.Like your Hawaii.
In one of the houses of parliament there is a Muslim, but perhaps we would balk at the office of PM being taken by someone outside the Commonwealth. Curious!
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« Reply #978 on: October 23, 2013, 09:27:15 PM »
Has anyone been listening about the auction of the Kennedy's goods this week.  It sounds so sad to me.  I would rather have seen them donated to museums any where in the world.  Was Jackie's nightgowns. Johns clothing. Even the window that Oswald shot from.  His wedding ring. All bringing thousands.  Not heard where the money is going to.

My battery is running out in 4 minutes.

MaryPage

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« Reply #979 on: October 24, 2013, 09:15:27 AM »
Well, I guess if SOMEONE wants that kind of stuff, more power to them!  No doubt the monies realized will go to a good cause.

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« Reply #980 on: October 24, 2013, 11:57:47 AM »
I don't know who this guy is, but he's certainly right on the issue of men having no say- including voting - on abortion issues.......

http://flcourier.com/2012/08/23/random-thoughts-of-a-free-black-mind-v-150/

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« Reply #981 on: October 24, 2013, 12:33:03 PM »
But then isn't that the point - those who still consider women inferior and subordinate to their husbands and therefore, all men so women must be barred from decisions that affect the man's sperm.
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« Reply #982 on: October 24, 2013, 01:04:43 PM »
You are so right, Barbara, and Thank You, Jean!

Warms the cockles of my heart, it does, to read that.  I don't know anything about him.  Have never heard of him.  But obviously he is black and a lawyer.

Love his insight into rape causing all those ten of thousands of slave women to get pregnant.

I have sent this out to my 5 daughters.

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« Reply #983 on: October 25, 2013, 09:04:03 AM »
No time to read it this am, too many workman, but will ..
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« Reply #984 on: October 29, 2013, 03:09:14 PM »
I don't know about you, but I am thrilled to DEATH the Federal Judge has found the new Texas abortion and clinic laws to be unconstitutional.

What scares me about all these frantic new Tea Party activities is this:  on the one hand, they are screaming at the top of their lungs that everything but what THEY propose is "unconstitutional" and not what our forefathers wished.

Then they pass all sorts of restrictive, anti-freedom, anti-women, anti-poor laws that are later found to be UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

And they close down the government and set the economy back big time and it all costs us TWENTY-FOUR BILLION DOLLARS and I wonder.  I wonder and the sick sinking feeling in my stomach grows bigger and bigger.

Do these people use patriotism as a false front?  Are they really and truly trying to ruin the United States of America?

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« Reply #985 on: October 29, 2013, 05:30:39 PM »
I'm tired of "less government," but those who say that have no problem trying to pass legislation to restrict people's freedoms.  Also, "less government" means more contractors doing what the govt did....but $$$$ to political friends and less accountability.  

Where would be be without gov't laws on pollution?  Like China, where the pollution is so bad they all wear masks....as if that'll help.  Our rivers and air would be far worse than they are, I fear.

Jane

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« Reply #986 on: October 29, 2013, 07:32:10 PM »
Quote
I don't know about you, but I am thrilled to DEATH the Federal Judge has found the new Texas abortion and clinic laws to be unconstitutional.
Problem it is only the part that says a doctor has to have a relationship with a hospital within 30 miles - in this state we have areas where there is no medical within 50 or 60 miles plus one other aspect that i forget but neither was changing the mandate that will end up closing over three quarter of the clinics plus the little that was deemed unconstitutional is already countered at another higher court by Greg Abbott our Attorney General who is campaigning to replace Rick Perry the governor, which puts him up against Wendy Davis.

As to the cost of the government shut down - all it was is a free campaign effort with national free press for Ted Cruz. And as long as we do not complain asking the media to bring to our attention the issues rather than the personalities this gaming of the system will continue at our expense. I started with a remark on face book to The American something or other that they promptly removed - which says to me it is a good way for both sides to rake in dollars by being able to condem the other side.
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« Reply #987 on: October 30, 2013, 08:51:57 AM »
It seems I cannot pick up anything at all to read these days without becoming more and  more convinced the Tea Party movement is being managed behind the scenes by puppet masters who want to sabotage and bring down our government.
This morning at breakfast I began to read the October 28 issue of THE NEW YORKER.  In The Talk of The Town it tells how IRS employees have lost time on the job and pay because of being furloughed by the "sequester."  Like most of us, they live from paycheck to paycheck, and lost money in any month puts them behind on their bills.  Also, the IRS workforce has been severely cut for some time now, yet we have a burgeoning population and ever more and more tax returns to process.  The end result of this, plus the 16 days when 90% of IRS employees were made to stay at home without pay due to the shutdown, is that the tax agency is so far behind that there is almost no time for audits and prosecutions.  It is easier for people, especially the rich, to cheat on their taxes.  The United States of America is missing out on BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of dollars in revenue. 
Yes, Ladies;  I feel we are being deliberately squeezed to death in every possible diabolical way.  I am so glad I am nearly 85 and may not see the end of my country as I have known it.

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« Reply #988 on: October 30, 2013, 12:04:53 PM »
This article by Mary Sanchez was in our paper today...Ted Cruz and the Tea Party's next possible goal...

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/25/4576705/imploding-immigration-reform-is.html



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« Reply #989 on: October 30, 2013, 01:31:14 PM »
I remember reading years and years ago how those with their thumb on the population that needs their weekly salary can easily keep them in place by allowing just enough money to flow so folks do not loose hope and think they can be the one to make it so they do not band together into an uprising. This was the line of thinking for factory workers before Unions made the inroads they did immediatly after WWII - well it looks like the Koch brothers have figured out how to rig the economic system and they have the Heritage Foundation interpreting the Constitution and the Supreme Court in their hip pockets.

They were even able to squash Occupy Wall Street and blame it on the open way it was orgainzed rather than the traditional way from top down with strong leadership - however, NOTHING is being blamed on those who harassed them and arranged for the police to break up any group organizing any place in this nation.

Between the break up of citizens who could loudly register protest and now we learn of the intensity of the surveillance and jails bulging (please look and see where the owners and profiteers of private jails live) and except we do not have access to a Siberian Provence can you say we are that much different than the Soviet Union before Glasnost.   

The youth traditionally has been any nations hope of rebellion and with the police now a virtual attack squad we are in deep do do - Washington is not going to get us out of this - what is amazing is how the young without experiencing the past knew it was all wrong and banded together as they did for the Occupy movement.   
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« Reply #990 on: October 30, 2013, 04:52:48 PM »
Have you ever considered the fact John Boehner is 2 heartbeats away from being PRESIDENT of these United States?

I mean, I know this is Halloween season, but this thought is scarier than all that!

I believe the reason Boehner will do ANYthing to keep his spot as Speaker is he holds out hope someone will do something (s) to make him President!  Deed I do!

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« Reply #991 on: October 31, 2013, 08:52:58 AM »
Oh MaryPage, now you are causing me to have nightmares.
That horrid fake tan smoker who will literally do anything to stay important. I consider him a total disgrace..pandering to both sides at once.
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« Reply #992 on: November 02, 2013, 08:39:09 PM »
I finally finished the Alice Roosevelt Longworth bio. It took me quite a long time, but it was very interesting.

Two passages fit in this discussion. One is about TR at Harvard. His ungraduate thesis was - are you ready for this - "The Practicality of Equalizing Men and Women Before the Law"!!! " It considered the topic of women's rights, including property ownership, and argued that women ought to keep their birth names upon marrying." !!! You go TR! (Alice didn't take her father's advice on that issue.)

 The second passage is a quote from the  New Yorker in the mid-20s "....an invitation to the Longworths is more prized by the discriminating than an invitation to the White House............Heavy politics are played at the Longworth house and Alice sits in.....She knows men, measures and motives; has an understanding grasp of their changes......It is too bad for the Roosevelt political dynasty that Alice wasn't a boy. She is the smartest Roosevelt there is left - the old Colonel's daughter in more ways than one. She has a quick, inquiring, original and penetrating mind especially equipped to cope with political situations for which she has an instinctive liking."

Apparently that was the opinion of many throughout her life until her death in 1980. She was friends with many names you would know: the Alsops, John. L. Lewis, the whole Kennedy clan, supported Jackie's marriage to Onassis,  Buckminister Fuller, all the presidents and their families from FDR to the Fords, and people in their administrations, interestingly especially Nixon from his time as vp to his resignation, reporters, Ruth McCormick, Kay Graham.

She was invited to all the White House weddings and many state dinners into the Ford administration. Her last one was when Queen E visited the Fords, " they exchanged  pleasantries about the diamond-rimmed purse that Mrs L. carried.....a wedding gift from King Edward VII in 1906........ When dinner was over.....a WH employee tapped (her escort) on the shoulder . 'We have someone who worked in the WH when Mrs Longworth lived here.' Hearing this Alice turned to greet a tall, distinguished, silver-haired African-American man who asked if she remembered him. She did. (There was many comments about her phenomenal memory. ) They launched into tales of WH life....she responded to his laughter with peals of her own. When they were through, he inquired gravely if he might escort her to her car. She gave him her elbow, and the two walked slowly away. That was her last visit to the White House." Isn't that a lovely scene?

Jean

Steph

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Re: Women's Issues
« Reply #993 on: November 03, 2013, 09:31:06 AM »
OhJean, Thanks for the stories. I always have admired Alice and will look for the book. I have a copy of her famous pillow.. " If you have nothing nice to say about anyone, come sit by me"..
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mabel1015j

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Re: Women's Issues
« Reply #994 on: November 03, 2013, 12:59:35 PM »
The author of the Alice bio is Stacy Cordery.

Steph

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Re: Women's Issues
« Reply #995 on: November 04, 2013, 08:14:09 AM »
not woman oriented, but if you want to see a Presidents house that contains the joy of a man.. Teddy Roosevelts house.. Sagamore Hill is a wonderful wonderful house. I would live in it in a minute.
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MaryPage

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Re: Women's Issues
« Reply #996 on: November 05, 2013, 07:50:28 AM »
I have often thought that, Steph, and I have never been there.  Lucky YOU to have seen it!

Steph

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Re: Women's Issues
« Reply #997 on: November 05, 2013, 08:23:30 AM »
Beautiful setting, beautiful house that is designed for play and joy.. Teddys pride and joy of course was Alice, all he had left from his first marriage and I gather much spoiled and loved..
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MaryPage

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Re: Women's Issues
« Reply #998 on: November 06, 2013, 08:31:19 AM »
Barbara was not able to vote yesterday.  She wrote about it in another forum.  I am hoping she will come in here and tell us about it.  Seems her voter registration did not show her middle name and her driver's license ID does.  Ergo:  it was not the same person!  I think she should raise hell all over the place!

Steph

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Re: Women's Issues
« Reply #999 on: November 06, 2013, 08:50:40 AM »
So do I. Seems to me that Texas is really trying to exclude voters..
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