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« Reply #1320 on: November 23, 2010, 11:31:17 PM »


Welcome to Author! Author!  

This is a game in which the contestants match their wits with a  challenger, who suggests a character in literature, non- fiction or fiction. The challenger may or may not provide more clues, his prerogative,, and never more than one a day.


Once a day the challenger will say if the guesses are correct or not. The winning contestant gets lots of acclaim and the chance to pose the next challenge. If he does not want to post a new challenge he can say so and whoever does can begin a new game.

Of course you could look these up on google in an instant, what challenge is that? The  idea is to rack one's brain to try to remember where this particular character appeared and who wrote about him/ her. Should be great fun.

The challenger also has the option not to mention the name of the character, but only a description.


Authors used so far:

Author, Book, Character, Challenger, Post#

Anonymous, Beowulf, Beowulf, PatH, #1301
Atwood, Margaret, The Blind Assassin, Gumtree, #277
Austen, Jane, Pride and Prejudice, Mary Bennett, #158
Baum, L. Frank, The Wizard of Oz, Dorothy, JoanK, #342
Blackmore, Richard, Lorna Doone, Lorna Doone, Frybabe, #462
Bronte, Emily, Wuthering Heights, Heathcliff, Gumtree, #252
Buchan, John, 39 steps, Richard Hannay, PatH, #396
Carroll, Louis, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, Alice, JoanK, # 426
Cervantes, Don Quijote, Don Quijote, PatH, #701
Christie, Agatha, Hastings, JoanK, # 127
Christie, Agatha, Death on the Nile, Hercule Poirot, JoanK, #752
Clancy, Tom, Hunt for Red October, Frybabe, #553
Coetzee, J. M., Disgrace, David Little, Straudetwo, #1336
Collins, Wilkie, The Moonstone, Rachel Verinder, PatH, #311
Conrad, Joseph, Heart of Darkness, Marlow, Gumtree, #226
Conroy, Pat, The Great Santini, Conroy's father, JudeS #1319
Cronin, A. J., The Citadel, Andrew Manson, JudeS, #1085
Dostoevsky, Fyodor, Crime and Punishment, Roskolnikov, JudeS, #1209, 1213
Doyle, Sir Arthur Conan, Study in Scarlet, Dr. Watson, PatH, #380
Dumas, Alexandre pere, The Three Musketeers, D'Artagnan, PatH, #939, 941
Eliot, George, Daniel Deronda, Gumtree, #190
Eliot, T. S., Old Possum’s Book of Practical Cats, Bustopher Jones, PatH, #110
Essex, Karen, Leonardo's Swans, Isabella d'Este, Mippy, #591
Galsworthy, John, The Forsyte Saga, Irene, PatH, #615,620
George, Elizabeth, Lynley and Havers, Tomereader1, #168
Gilbert, W. S., The Savoy Operas, Frederick, or the Pirate King, #1108, 1111, 1112
Goodman, Carol, The Night Villa, the slave girl, Gumtree, # 1165
Greene, Graham, The Third Man, Holly Martins, PatH, ##1175, 1179
Grey, Zane, Riders of the Purple Sage, Frybabe, #294, 299
Henry, O. Mammon and the Archer, Anthony Rockwall, Ginny  #537
James, Henry, Washington Square, straudetwo, #981, 982
James, Henry, Wings of a Dove, Kidsal, #83
Keller, Helen, The Story of my Life, Anne Sullivan, JoanK #958
Lagerlof, Selma, The Wonderful Adventures of Nils, Nils Holgersson, JudeS #899
Lamb, Charles and Mary, Tales From Shakespeare, Macbeth, JoanK, #1301
LeFanu, Sheridan, Carmilla, roshanarose, #769
McCourt, Frank, Angela's Ashes, Frank McCourt, JoanK, #1062
Melville, Herman, Moby-Dick, the whale, PatH, #482
Miller,Arthur, Death of a Salesman, Gumtree, #1005, 1006
Milton, John, Paradise Lost, Frybabe, #413
Mitford, Nancy, roshanarose, #839, 840
Murdoch, Iris, The Sea, the Sea, Charles Arrowby, straudetwo, #1197, 1198
Nabokov, Vladimir, Lolita, Lolita, JudeS, #1124
O’Brian, Patrick, Master and Commander, Jack Aubrey, JudeS, #319
Orwell, George, Frybabe, #97
Peterson, Roger Tory, Field guide to the Eastern Birds, Mockingbird, JoanK #202
Plutarch, ----, Themistocles, roshanarose, #1025, 1027
Rand, Ayn, We the Living, Frybabe, #498, 502
Rhys, Jean, Wide Sargasso Sea, Jane Eyre, straudetwo, #1230
Scott, Sir Walter, Ivanhoe, Ginny, #602
Shelley, Mary, Frankenstein, the monster, PatH, #451
Smith, Alexander McCall, Mma Ramotswe, JudeS, #145
Smith, Alexander McCall, 44Scotland Street, Cyril, rosemarykaye, #1238, 1243
Spark, Muriel, The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie, Miss Brodie, Gumtree, #671, 672
Steinbeck , John, Journal of a Novel, Gumtree, #53, 60
Stoker, Bram, Dracula, Jonathan Harker, JudeS, #631, 632
Stone, Irving, Depths of Glory, Camille Pisarro, Gumtree, #802
Tolkien, J. R. R., Lord of the Rings, Frodo, PatH, #238, 241
Tolstoy, Leo, War and Peace, Pierre Bezukhov, PatH, #1267
Trollope, Joanna, The Best of Friends, Sophie, Mippy, #218
Tyler, Anne, Digging to America, Maryam Yazdan,Mippy, #735
Vreeland, Susan, The Forest Lover, Emily Carr, Mippy, #364
Weir, Alison, Innocent Traitor, Lady Jane Gray, roshanrose, #883
Wethers, Beck, Left for Dead, Ginny, #29
Windsor, Kathleen, Forever Amber, Amber, Traude, #927, 928
Wodehouse, P. G., Bertie Wooster, PatH, #1046, 1048
Woolfe, Virginia, Orlando, Orlando, PatH, #1141
Xenophon, Frybabe, #173
Zola, Emile, Germinal, Etienne Lentier, Gumtree, #1352


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Jude,  the answer came easily after your last clue.  I have never experienced brutality like young Ben Meecham in The Great Santini,  a heart-breaking story, but I know there are domineering, meddlesome people who present to the outside world a picture of themselves that is totally different from the one their families get to see.  If Pat Conroy drew on his own life (which is likely), at least he has survived, though hardly unscathed.

South of Broad was welcomed with enthusiasm when it was first published, a big sprawling book with many characters.  I had a library copy at the time and promised myself I'd get a paperback.   I still haven't done so ...
I admire you for taking on this large project. I bet you had a lively discussion.  

A good quiz.  Enjoy your guests on Thursday!
Happy Thanksgiving everyobe

PatH, I'll be back after the holiday with a new quiz.




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Re: Author! Author!
« Reply #1321 on: November 24, 2010, 08:36:55 AM »
Good for you for guessing it, Traude.

A Happy Thanksgiving to all.

JoanK

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« Reply #1322 on: November 24, 2010, 03:27:10 PM »
Happy thanksgiving to all.

roshanarose

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« Reply #1323 on: November 26, 2010, 10:53:36 PM »
Happy Thanksgiving to all my fellow Senior Learners.

Ah ! I hear a brush turkey scratching in my garden .... watch out Mate!!
How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?  - Plato

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« Reply #1324 on: November 27, 2010, 04:50:49 PM »
This isn't the best place to post this, but maybe one of you Aussies can help me answer a question, while we wait for the next puzzle.

When I go to the library, I sometimes pick up mysteries by authors I don't know. I did that this week, picked up "Death before Wicket" by Kerry Greenwood. Turns out, it's set in Australia, the detective is a wealthy woman who usually lives in Melbourne but is visiting Sydney. My question is this: there is no mention in the book as to what time period it occurs in. But the picture on the cover shows her in 20s garb, and much is made of the fact that a bridge is under construction across Sydney harbor, which will put the old ferry boats out of business.

Does that mean it is the 20s or 30s? It doesn't really matter, but somehow I don't like not knowing WHEN I am.

roshanarose

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« Reply #1325 on: November 27, 2010, 10:38:27 PM »
JoanK - I hope this helps.  Construction of the bridge began in December, 1926 and construction was finished 19 March, 1932.  Happily, ferries still run.  See link below.

http://www.sydney.com.au/bridge.htm

I am a little ashamed to say that I haven't read any of Greenwood's books.  A quick search reveals she is quite prolific.  The summary in this link just says that her Phryne Fisher novels are set in the 1920s.

Tell me what you think when you have finished the book.

http://www.phrynefisher.com/
How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?  - Plato

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« Reply #1326 on: November 28, 2010, 02:12:42 AM »
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and much is made of the fact that a bridge is under construction across Sydney harbor, which will put the old ferry boats out of business.

JoanK That is just priceless - a bridge??  this is THE bridge, THE Aussie icon - I'm laughing fit to kill myself...

Haven't read the author  - maybe I should but for some reason my TBR piles get higher without adding more ...not sure where they come from.  The title Death Before Wicket has cricketing connotations like the term LBW - Leg Before Wicket. Hope you enjoy.
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« Reply #1327 on: November 28, 2010, 01:28:38 PM »
Thank you -- that confirms my guess. I knew you would know.

I can't recommend the book, because of a sex scene I found MUCH too graphic (I don't know why mystery story writers think they have to do that). But if you can deal with that, you'd probably enjoy her take on Sydney in the 20s -- much more rowdy, she says than Melbourne where she came from. Her female detective is also a spoof on the male detectives who are suave, know everything, and have gormless members of the opposite sex trailing after them.

True to its name, there is a murder at a cricket match. I got the book hoping it would help me understand cricket, but it's not detailed enough to help. It's probably hopeless anyway -- we Yanks don't have the cricket gene.

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« Reply #1328 on: November 28, 2010, 01:36:14 PM »
If you want to try Kerry Greenwood, her first book is Cocaine Blues.

I can't resist quoting her biography from Fantastic Fiction:

Kerry Greenwood has worked as a folk singer, factory hand, director, producer, translator, costume-maker, cook and is currently a solicitor. When she is not writing, she works as a locum solicitor for the Victorian Legal Aid. She is also the unpaid curator of seven thousand books, three cats (Attila, Belladonna and Ashe) and a computer called Apple (which squeaks). She embroiders very well but cannot knit. She has flown planes and leapt out of them (with a parachute) in an attempt to cure her fear of heights (she is now terrified of jumping out of planes but can climb ladders without fear). She can detect second-hand bookshops from blocks away and is often found within them.

For fun Kerry reads science fiction/fantasy and detective stories. She is not married, has no children and lives with a registered wizard. When she is not doing any of the above she stares blankly out of the window.

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« Reply #1329 on: November 28, 2010, 01:37:24 PM »
"When she is not doing any of the above she stares blankly out of the window."

Glad we have something in common.

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« Reply #1330 on: November 28, 2010, 02:18:52 PM »
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you'd probably enjoy her take on Sydney in the 20s -- much more rowdy, she says than Melbourne where she came from.

JoanK : She's right there - Sydneysiders are still rowdier than just about anybody else - Melbournites have always had a reputation for conservatism - having said that there are parts of Melbourne that really rock...  :D
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straudetwo

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« Reply #1331 on: November 28, 2010, 07:29:37 PM »
Sorry to be late.

Here is the new quiz

The author has written fiction and nonfiction

The book is a sober, even cynical, reflection on a man's search for redemption

The character is beginning a new life

 


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« Reply #1332 on: November 29, 2010, 01:19:16 AM »
H'mmm- I can see that I'm going to need a few more clues.
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JudeS

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« Reply #1333 on: November 29, 2010, 01:20:02 AM »
Could this author be Albert Camus?
But perhaps I am fishing in the wrong pond?

straudetwo

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« Reply #1334 on: November 29, 2010, 11:00:10 AM »
Not Dumas, Jude, though not necessarily the wrong "pond".

The author is still with us.

The book reflects the author's deep concern over the ineradicability of human misery.




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« Reply #1335 on: November 30, 2010, 11:59:43 AM »
More clues

The author is living, still writing.

The book is an acknowledged masterpiece and won the Booker Prize.

Although the character's miseries are caused by his own weaknesses, and the initial lack of remorse is deplorable,  readers may come to feel a modicum of sympathy for such abasement.

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« Reply #1336 on: November 30, 2010, 12:21:17 PM »
Why am I thinking about J. M. Coetzee?
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« Reply #1337 on: November 30, 2010, 05:51:12 PM »
Gumtree :   ... because you are right !  Brava !
The bok should be easy.

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« Reply #1338 on: November 30, 2010, 06:28:02 PM »
I think the book is "Disgrace" and the character is David Lurie .

Gumtree

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« Reply #1339 on: December 01, 2010, 05:07:56 AM »
Yes Jude - I was thinking of Disgrace but would have had to look it up for the name of the character -

As you all probably know, these days Coetzee lives and works in Australia - in Adelaide - he's now a naturalised Aussie and seems to have found some kind of a niche for himself here.

Traude - great clues - I love the phrase you used  The book reflects the author's deep concern over the ineradicability of human misery  it fits Coetzee to a T.



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« Reply #1340 on: December 01, 2010, 08:18:08 AM »
Jude and Gumtree,  you are the co-solvers. Excellent.  I had a hunch that the last clues would produce an answer - especially since J.M. Coetze left So. Africa behind and moved to Australia, as Gumtree said.

I am rushing out for an early appointment but will return with a few more words about this quiz.
Thank you for being here.
Traude




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« Reply #1341 on: December 01, 2010, 03:36:36 PM »
In re Disgrace.

We discussed the book here in our earlier incarnation. The discussion was thorough and intense; also long and extensive.  It was archived for under Fiction from the Pre-20007 era.  We were fortunate to have a South African join us and benefited enormously from her insights and experiencer both during and after Apartheid.

Coetzee's language in this book (and indeed in other works) is lean and unsparing, the overt cruelty and violence does shock some readers. His characters - in this book and elsewhere - are people blown about by historical and political forces. Institutional and other injustices are not a automatically ended, following a dramatic change in a political system.  After some "reordering"
there ma appear new variants of misery.  (Coetzee's work reminds me of Kafka.) The character of professor David Lurie is not appealing but appalling.  But the reader begins to bend a little, in the face of the suffering thats befalls first him, and then  Lucy, his daughter - the second disgraace - while he stands by unable to help.

Interestingly,   no mention at all is made of Lucy in the 2008 movie Disgrace with John Malkovich as David Lurie. The film refers solely on David's disgrace. I wonder what the author thought of that omission.  His productive life continues; he is said not to smile much, nor talk a lot.
Once again, thank you.

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« Reply #1342 on: December 01, 2010, 07:14:53 PM »
Gumtree
You will have to take up this banner. We have Hannukah starting today and my house will be full of guests for the holiday.
I will not be available until next Weds. Dec. 8th. The Jewish calendar goes by the Lunar cycle and this year the holiday falls way too close to Thanksgiving.  But nothing I can do about it.  The eight days of Hannukkah , this year, are from Dec. first to eigth.

Thanks Traude for remembering Coetzee.  I found this book chilling but memorable .

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« Reply #1343 on: December 02, 2010, 05:00:18 AM »
Chilling is right Jude - I wasn't around for the SN  discussion but  read Disgrace with my F2F group - some of the group didn't finish it. I like the way Coetzee writes without embellishment - tells it as it is - but I don't like is the 'human misery' he writes about. I didn't know they had overlooked the Lurie's daughter in the film which I haven't seen. My DH was in poor health at the time it came out so I had to give it a miss then and I haven't felt like putting it on my DVD rentals...

I'll try to think of something 'brilliant' for our next quiz but know it will be pretty ordinary... back as soon as I can work something up.

Jude - Enjoy your family and have a happy  Hannukkah holiday.
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« Reply #1344 on: December 02, 2010, 03:46:53 PM »
GUM: You're it in both "Author, Author" and "Blanko". Stop being so smart!

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« Reply #1345 on: December 02, 2010, 04:23:53 PM »
Jude - I am sorry to be so ill-informed, but what do you do for Hannukah, and what does it commemorate?

My younger daughter and I visited the synagogue in Aberdeen on Open Doors Day last year.  The lady there explained that there are only 6 Orthodox Jewish families in the whole of NE Scotland, so as you can see, we don't know much about the religion.  I did, however, work in Finchley, North London, many years ago, and remember some of the celebrations that used to go on there.

Rosemary

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« Reply #1346 on: December 02, 2010, 07:58:50 PM »
Rosemary
Here is a very brief summary of the history of the holiday.  If you wish to know more look up on Google:Maccabees, Antiochus and 25 of Kislev,168B.C.E.
In 168BCE Antiochus (also known as "the madman") ruled Judea where most of the Jews lived in peace under Greek rule.
This King erected a statue of Zeus in the Jewish temple (Jews do not believe in graven images of gods i.e.statues. He also forbade circumcision and praying on the Jewish sabbath.  He demanded that the Jews eat swine meat and those that refused were slaughtered in front of their families.  Children were not exempt. One old man had seven sons.  After witnessing some brutal murders of children he fled his town with his seven sons and they formed a guerilla band known as The Maccabees (the hammer).
Its a long story but eventually the Jewish guerillas beat the Greek army and reconquered the main temple in Jerusalem.
They found oil in the temple for only one night but a miracle occurred and the oil lasted for eight days and nights. Thus the eight days of Hannukah. Each night one more candle on the Hannukiah or nine branched  candelabra is lit . The main candle is lit all eight nights. Oily food is eaten to reind us of the miracle of the temple oil.  Potato pancakes and small jelly doughnuts are popular. 

The game of dreidle or tops is played since the legend is that boys were given these tops to play in front of the secret worshipping sitesof the Jews in order to put off the Greek soldiers when they came looking for the men praying.
Happy Holidays to you and yours !1

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« Reply #1347 on: December 03, 2010, 04:37:39 AM »
Thanks Jude, that is very interesting - I am learning so much from this site.  It must be a hopeless time to worry about calories at them moment - Thanksgiving, Hannukah and Christmas all within 4 weeks of one another (or do you abstain from Christmas?)!

Have a lovely time,

Rosemary

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« Reply #1348 on: December 03, 2010, 10:54:39 AM »
Here we go -

Author
1. Worked as a political journalist, wrote short stories, essays, plays and many novels and became an influential writer.

Book
1. A novel, recognised as the author's undisputed masterpiece.

Character
1. I'm a young, rather naive but hardworking idealist.
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« Reply #1349 on: December 03, 2010, 11:49:18 PM »
GUM: You're it in both "Author, Author" and "Blanko". Stop being so smart!

Gum can't help being smart - she is Australian, after all.  Hope it is a bit cooler in the West, Gum.
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« Reply #1350 on: December 04, 2010, 11:00:24 AM »
H'mmm, no comments - I'm going to make this easy for you... :D


Author
1. Worked as a political journalist, wrote short stories, essays, plays and many novels and became an influential writer.
2. The author was a contemporary of Stephen Crane, George Gissing and Guy de Maupassant - to name just three.

Book
1. A novel, recognised as the author's undisputed masterpiece.
2. Depicts a grim struggle between capital and labour.

Character
1. I'm a young, rather naive but hardworking idealist.
2. I led my co-workers in a revolt against ill-paid and dangerous conditions.
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« Reply #1351 on: December 04, 2010, 11:13:07 AM »
is it Robert Tressell?

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« Reply #1352 on: December 04, 2010, 02:40:50 PM »
How about Émile Zola, Germinal, Étiennne Lantier ?

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« Reply #1353 on: December 04, 2010, 09:42:28 PM »
Zola was my guess too, straudetwo.
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« Reply #1354 on: December 05, 2010, 01:37:53 AM »
TRAUDE WINS AGAIN !

Yes, the perfect answer in all respects Traude.

 Emile Zola - the novel Germinal because it is his best - and Etienne Lantier as the character - though I was very tempted to use Maheu instead - remember Gerard Depardieu in that role. To my mind the ever present mine is the protagonist as Zola's descriptions show it as a living, breathing entity pulsating with life in an almost human way - but I settled for Etienne.

 I chose Zola after Traude's pithy comment about Coetzee's portrayal of the ineradicability of human misery which has a profound veracity and which brought the entire gamut of Zola to my mind - enough to make me take Germinal from the shelf and dip into it. Zola's depictions of human misery were written more than a century ago but are still with us today all over the earth despite 'improvements' in all facets of human life.

And Zola's life itself is so fascinating  - not only his literary output He was one of the first to attempt to show the effects  heredity and environment have on the individual through the great sequence of novels we know as the Rougon-MacQuart series  which traces a family through generations. .  - there's his championing of the victim in the Dreyfus case which led to his being forced for a time to flee France - and his death from carbon-monoxide poisoning from a blocked chimney which has never been satisfactorily explained (the idea of it having been murder because of his political activity still lingers)- and through all that a life fully lived. He is one of my favourite literary figures even though in some respects, he too, had feet of clay.

CONGRATULATIONS TRAUDE
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« Reply #1355 on: December 05, 2010, 01:56:33 AM »
Rosemary Tressell was such a good guess given the clues - I think the only clue that couldn't be made to fit him was the first one about his writing other stuff - essays, plays and many novels. Tressell tackled much the same problems as Zola did with Germinal butI believe The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists was his only novel.

Tressell's life and especially the publication history of his book is also interesting even down to the tale about his daughter protecting the manuscript from destruction by locking it in a tin trunk and hiding it under her bed. It's very like the actual device used by many 18 & 19 century novelists of claiming to have found a long lost manuscript hidden in a box in the back of an old cupboard  or somewhere up in the attic.
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« Reply #1356 on: December 05, 2010, 02:17:38 AM »
Gumtree - I knew about Tressell's manuscript being kept under the bed, but not about the device you mention - ie other writers pretending to "discover" manuscripts.  Why did they do that?

Tressell was recommended to me many years ago by my father-in-law.  His (ie FIL's) family was very poor and lived in a deprived area of Liverpool. His father, however, who had little formal education, was determined to learn, and to make sure his 5 children did.  As a result - and with no private education or outside help - three of them went to Oxford.  FIL is still a dyed-in-the-wood socialist, and he and MIL (who came from a very different and quite affluent background) are staunch Guardian readers to this day.

R

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« Reply #1357 on: December 06, 2010, 10:45:07 AM »
Gumtree,   thank  you.
When I read the second set of clues, the years fell away and I saw myself reading Germinal in my father's library - with his permissison and approval.  The book made an extraordinary impression on me - perhaps because I was a buddding idealist myself, or perhaps because all books that are about the human condition leave a special imprint.

To think of another challenge will take me a few days this time because this is an especially busy week with several holiday gatherngs - while the home preparations take a temporary back seat.

In haste, with gratitude,
Traude

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« Reply #1358 on: December 10, 2010, 04:00:25 PM »
Goodness!  Three in a row that speak movingly about human misery.  And I wouldn't have gotten any of them.  Good work, all.

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« Reply #1359 on: December 11, 2010, 03:07:13 PM »
"Three in a row that speak movingly about human misery.  And I wouldn't have gotten any of them. "

Are you saying you're not miserable enough, PAT? I can help you with that.