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« Reply #7080 on: January 05, 2015, 03:49:58 PM »

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I've looked at the second book, and it looks like Francine has a prominent role there.

Back to the first book.I admit, I got lost sometimes in the details of the plot. Couldn't keep all the "alphabet agencies" straight.

And I'm a fan of real detecting in mysteries. At first, I enjoyed following as she followed each trail of data, and waited for the next batch to arrive. But it got tedious, and dragged the book down in the middle. I hope in future books, the author has the same methodical method, but lets us go through faster than Jennie does.

In the end, I'm not sure all the puzzle pieces fit, but I'd lost track a bit. And I couldn't swallow her being so completely stupid at the end.

Tomereader1

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« Reply #7081 on: January 05, 2015, 04:25:19 PM »
"stupid at the end"??  How so?  

I didn't like that she lost a lot of her "symptoms" as the story progressed, i.e. touching another person etc.  I feel the author should have left some of that for future books.  But regardless, I don't read for "perfection" of the storyline, I read for enter-
tainment, with a little acquisition of new knowledge along the way (in this case, Autism).  Did anyone here see the movie "Mercury Rising" with Bruce Willis, and a boy who portrayed an autistic child.  Now when anyone touched him, he really went off like a firecracker, kicking and screaming.  The child did a real good job, I thought, especially with the "not looking anyone in the eyes"
I don't have personal experience with autism, but from what folks have said here, I can see where this little fellow kind of personified the autistic personality, as I understand it to be.  Of course, there are different "spectrums" (should that be "spectrii?) I really did enjoy this book and thanks to whomever first mentioned that it was Free on Kindle, so I jumped right in.
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JoanK

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« Reply #7082 on: January 05, 2015, 07:16:15 PM »
TOME: I don't want to be too specific about how she was stupid, in case someone hasn't finished the book. But we know she comes out alright, because there is a series of books. She just makes it harder on herself than she need.

See if anyone else agrees.

Tomereader1

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« Reply #7083 on: January 05, 2015, 10:56:46 PM »
ok
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« Reply #7084 on: January 05, 2015, 11:27:59 PM »
I read mysteries for entertainment and don't mind occasional inconsistencies.    It is an unusual premise (?) for a mystery that the detective is a highly functional autistic person, but I wonder if that might get boring after a couple of stories.  I think I'll try one more and see if it stays as interesting.

MaryPage

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« Reply #7085 on: January 06, 2015, 07:23:09 AM »
It was certainly a stupid move in MY view of things for her to have followed, all on her own, those so very dangerous criminals and to go, heaven forbid, down those stairs with the door locking behind her and all that.  Obviously, her team thought the same of her.  But her answer as to why she did it seemed very realistic to me:  she was focused on discovering and proving who was Piros.  An autistic person can truly focus that entirely and have no huge danger signals going off in their brain.  Me, when it comes to the slightest hint of fight or flight, you will find me in the vanguard of those fleeing, every time.  Bye! Bye!
Remember, too, she felt sure her guys were following her and could see, from the pictures she was sending with her phone, where she was.  Of course, she could have been killed right in front of their eyes, too, because the bad guys did not know about the phone camera being on!
When, in the movies, folks under siege go off into their separate bedrooms with a murderer on the loose, my brain screams at them to get their act together and camp out in one room;  but they never listen to me, and so get picked off one by one.  When the hero, or more often heroine, takes a flashlight and goes outside to see where the noise is coming from, my brain again screams "What the hey do you think you're DOing?  Get back inside!"  Oh well;  the writers have to set the action going SOME way!
I enjoyed this book hugely and will keep reading the series unless or until it gets tiresome, just as FlaJean says she will do.

Steph

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« Reply #7086 on: January 06, 2015, 09:17:44 AM »
Finished the book.. Met Francine.. Hmm, a most interesting addition. I did think the ending was a bit out of character for Jenny.
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JoanK

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« Reply #7087 on: January 06, 2015, 03:29:56 PM »
It's become almost a given that at the end of the book, the narrator will be in danger from the murderer. So much so, that when it doesn't happen, I'm surprised. But it's nice when the author makes it more plausible.

But given my occasional grumble, I still look forward to reading the next. It's called "The Dante Connection" so maybe there's more in it about poetry, to go with the music and art.

Is anyone familiar with the English poets that Colin uses as aliases?

Zulema

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« Reply #7088 on: January 06, 2015, 03:38:54 PM »
Well, sorry, I thought it would be obvious, but I erred.  I meant THE GAUGUIN CONNECTION by Estelle Ryan which we are to begin to discuss on January 2nd.  Is that right?  January 2?

I got the latest Margaret Maron, Designated Daughters, for Christmas, and a whole pile of others and a bunch of Barnes & Noble gift cards.  Am overwhelmed by how rich I feel surrounded by bookcases and piles and stacks of books enough to last just about forever.  Some guilt, too.  But more avarice than guilt!


Since I haven't been posting or reading what you are all reading, I do want to say that Designated Daughters by Margaret Maron is a terrific book; well, all of hers are.  It is a very sensitive and enjoyable mystery.

JoanK

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« Reply #7089 on: January 06, 2015, 03:58:31 PM »
ZULEMA: OH DEAR! PLEASE DON'T FEEL LEFT OUT!! Is anyone else feeling rejected and neglected? Please don't.

I've started reading a Scotteline book "Betrayed." Some day I'll learn to spell her name).

 

MaryPage

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« Reply #7090 on: January 06, 2015, 08:57:53 PM »
Oh, Joan!  I did not take Zulema's words to mean that she was feeling at all left out or rejected or neglected.  Just that she has been engrossed in a different mystery book and not following along with us regarding The Gauguin Connection.  Margaret Maron is a huge favorite of mine, and I am delighted to hear the latest Deborah Knott is so good.  It is my next on the stack after the Ann Cleeves Shetland mystery I am into now.  By the time I am finished with the Maron, I will either take up the NEXT on the stack, a Peter Robinson, or may get into The Dante Connection, as surely it will have arrived at my door by then.  Depends on how well I can resist waiting to see what happens next with Jenny.  Also on what is appearing on PBS from Great Britain in the way of mysteries.  The Cleeves I am currently reading is on every Saturday night on one of the five (5) PBS channels I have access to.  DCI BANKS shows up on another PBS channel once a week, as well.  And George Gently.  Such fun, but one does have to read swiftly to keep up!

JoanK

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« Reply #7091 on: January 07, 2015, 12:54:20 AM »
"Depends on how well I can resist waiting"

My problem, exactly. My to-be-read list tends to turn into a "last - in-first - out queue. Like the towel at the bottom of the stack that never gets used, books get buried for months.

Steph

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« Reply #7092 on: January 07, 2015, 09:32:19 AM »
My TBR is so out of hand. I have had the Sara Paretsky for months and I do love her, But this time V.I. is being foolish.. alone in a drug dealers territory. How silly is that for V.I.
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MaryPage

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« Reply #7093 on: January 07, 2015, 09:33:15 AM »
One thing happens to be quite timely in Ryan's "Connection" books, and I definitely do not get the impression she is attempting to be political, but rather utilizes a fact of life that is, as it were, "out there" these days, is the criminality of most, if not all, of Jenny's team.  I am betting Manny, too,  has bent a law or two when it suits him to get to the bottom truth of an investigation he is conducting.  But for us reading this first Connection book for the first time, it is serendipitous that it was just last month the Senate Select Intelligence Committee report on the C.I.A.'s activities in law breaking was made public.  Some months back we had almost more information than we could handle re the NSA also breaking laws in the name of national security.  Almost week after week, if not day after day, reports come in of blatant disregard of our laws by employees of various departments and agencies of our official government, such as the police and F.B.I.  Apparently there are a slew of well paid personnel working for agencies all over this world, but off the books and on the sly so as to be as deniable as possible, who break laws in order to gain information.  Spies, interrogators, investigators, and so on.  I rather expect it has been true for thousands of years.  My mind struggles with whether it is a good thing or a bad thing for us, the normal everyday sort of citizen, to know these things.  The only answer I seem to be able to come up with, given my huge lack of insider knowledge, is that perhaps the possibility of public disclosure will force government officials to try to keep closer to The Law and prevent an all out, reckless, totalitarian rule allowing these agencies to intrude upon our freedoms and our everyday lives.  Do I make any sense with all this?  I am, like Ryan, trying not to be in any way political;  I am just one who thinks about how things work.

JoanK

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« Reply #7094 on: January 07, 2015, 03:20:35 PM »
I agree. Power corrupts, and even if people are sometimes acting with good intentions, it's bound to lead to abuses if not for checks.

As the daughter of a lawyer, I believe in the rule the law. That doesn't mean if I had to break a law to save a life, I wouldn't do it - - there is a higher morality. But I would expect to be examined and checked.

MaryPage

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« Reply #7095 on: January 07, 2015, 03:37:20 PM »
Well, exactly.  And you just gave a perfect example.

Steph

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« Reply #7096 on: January 08, 2015, 08:43:44 AM »
The law.. hmm, Living in Florida with our lunatic legislature, I wonder about the law sometimes. Our laws are intricate... make no sense.. and are so very political...
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MaryPage

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« Reply #7097 on: January 08, 2015, 11:12:30 AM »
So, are there anymore comments about The Gauguin Connection?  I was hoping everyone would put forth their opinions about reading it and the storyline.  Are we agreed that the writing made it a pleasurable read?

Tomereader1

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« Reply #7098 on: January 08, 2015, 12:43:19 PM »
Yes, MP, a very pleasurable read!  Glad we found this author.  Just hope she doesn't get all "james patterson" on us, with a new book every 20 minutes and co-authored.  Also, wouldn't want the series to turn into the same/same with only the title of the artwork changed.  I think the main characters were all well-introduced and people who are interesting and that we care about, in some way. 
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MaryPage

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« Reply #7099 on: January 08, 2015, 01:20:43 PM »
Vinnie is my favorite.  I repeat, I WANT a Vinnie!

I guess his outstanding attribute in my view is that he can cook. You go, Vinnie!

So Jenny has a father figure/boss, a bodyguard/cook, a legal high ranking official expert who can get things done, a handsome lover, and a galfriend supergenius who has talents Jenny lacks. Have I covered it?  Comments?

Frybabe

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« Reply #7100 on: January 08, 2015, 03:24:28 PM »
Which is the high ranking legal expert, MaryPage? Manny or Leon? I think you missed one.

And yes, a having a Vinnie around sounds nice.

JoanK

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« Reply #7101 on: January 08, 2015, 04:21:30 PM »
Notice how everyone cares for her and takes care of her. And she's wondering "why are they doing this?" She's learning about love, and feeling it, although she doesn't recognize it.

I wonder how realistic this is? we all wonder how people on the autism spectrum really feel.

MaryPage

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« Reply #7102 on: January 08, 2015, 06:18:58 PM »
Good point.

I did not mean a high ranking legal expert.  I meant exactly what I said:  a legal high ranking official expert who can get things done.  That is Manny, and he is legal.  The rest of her team are off the books, as it were.

I do not believe Leon is a member of Jenny's "team."  I may well be proved wrong, but at this point, I do not count him in.  

Frybabe

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« Reply #7103 on: January 09, 2015, 05:46:35 AM »
You're probably right about Leon, MaryPage. He does know about the team and can pull strings when necessary, though. 

Steph

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« Reply #7104 on: January 09, 2015, 08:35:06 AM »
I loved the book and w ill continue to read her, but I still have my doubts about Jenny being able and willing to accept this many people in such a short time. Having a grandson with asburgers, I know his preference is one friend.. not a lot of friends. Too many people around him send him into shutdown..At the beginning of the book, it did Jenny as well, so I want Ryan to continue exploring autism in its many colors. I did go on  the authors site. She is interesting in herself and has a newsletter, etc.
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MaryPage

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« Reply #7105 on: January 09, 2015, 09:23:33 AM »
I have the next 4 books on hand now, but have many, many others I must turn to and devour before I go back into Jenny's world.

I kind of sort of get the impression, from skimming through all four, that the series is like one continuous story.  Well, I guess it would be.

salan

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« Reply #7106 on: January 09, 2015, 07:27:09 PM »
I liked the book enough to order the next one, but haven't started it yet. Somehow, I haven't gotten in the mood to start a new book.  I am trying to finish several I started & am re-reading The Rosie Project for my ftf book club next week.
Sally

Steph

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« Reply #7107 on: January 10, 2015, 09:03:57 AM »
I suspect that Ryan had written several of the stories and then finally began to be published. They sound as if it is a continuous thing.
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MaryPage

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« Reply #7108 on: January 10, 2015, 09:26:55 AM »
My guess as well, Steph!

JoanK

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« Reply #7109 on: January 10, 2015, 05:35:25 PM »
Those of you who liked taking more time with a book, might like our month long discussions. This month we're discussing "The boys in the Boat" about the rowers who won gold in the 1936 Olympics. Next month, it's return as adults to a High School nemesis "The Lady of Shallot" with a promise of no bad marks if you don't understand it (I suspect my teacher didn't understand it either!)

There's a new one every month, so check if there's something that interests you.

Steph

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« Reply #7110 on: January 11, 2015, 09:34:07 AM »
Started the second, but oh my,, the first few pages are way past confusing.. Living next to her, her not knowing.. Way strange.
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JoanK

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« Reply #7111 on: January 11, 2015, 03:46:17 PM »
Boggles the mind.

Is everyone else still around. I'm reading the latest Hyzy about the President's chef "All the President's Menus". not as good as some of her others, but I like the series.

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/h/julie-hyzy/

MaryPage

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« Reply #7112 on: January 12, 2015, 07:17:17 AM »
I'm here, and disappointed we did not hear more voices with their different perspectives on reading The Gauguin Connection.  I was hoping the discussion would go on much longer.  Oh well.

Had an email from Margaret Maron yesterday or the day before.  She will have a new Deborah Knott out in August:  Long Upon The Land, and she also pointed out that she wrote two (2) books featuring Dwight Bryant long before Deborah came along:  Bloody Kin was one, and Last Lessons of Summer the other.  I honestly cannot remember whether I read those or not.  The title Bloody Kin sounds quite familiar. 

I am sure you all know that it is easy to subscribe to a particular author's emails just by going to their website and signing up.

Steph

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« Reply #7113 on: January 12, 2015, 08:52:46 AM »
I read Bloody Kin, but not the other one. Gaugin,, the thing that bothered me about it was how fast Jenny was accepting of a wide variety of people. At the very beginning, they seemed to make it clear that she did not handle change well at all. If so, she would not have been able to handle all of the people at once.
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JoanK

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« Reply #7114 on: January 12, 2015, 04:37:03 PM »
MARY: I was too, and don't mean to close it off, just make room for people who are reading other things. Do you have more you want to say?

You are right, STEPH. And here is a person who has trouble with interpersonal relationships who attracts a horde of admirers and protectors we all would envy. Maybe we should all try being autistic.

I wonder if the author is trying to be realistic. In any case, it makes for a good story, and a warm fuzzy feel. I'll definitely read more.

Steph

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« Reply #7115 on: January 13, 2015, 09:11:31 AM »
I liked the story and the closeness. There are things in Jennys life that are still a mystery and I note at the beginning of the second book,. that hospitals terrify her.
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JoanK

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« Reply #7116 on: January 13, 2015, 04:01:20 PM »
"hospitals terrify her". She's not alone in that. my husband as well, even if he was just visiting someone.

Steph

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« Reply #7117 on: January 14, 2015, 08:54:37 AM »
I have a son who used to be terrified of hospitals.When he was 7 his grandfather went into the hospital. Small children were not allowed in hospitals in 1970 and so he could not go see him. He adored his Grandpa and begged to go. We told him no, then his grandfather got much much worse and died quite suddenly. For years , you mentioned the word hospital and he would hyperventilate.. Funniest thing was his first wife was a doctor and he was in the hospital most of the time visiting, since she was  a surgical resident and worked long horrible hours.
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« Reply #7118 on: January 14, 2015, 02:21:52 PM »
Is Julia Spencer-Fleming still writing mysteries?  She is one of my favorite mystery writers.  Is she still alive?

Thanks, Sheila

JoanK

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« Reply #7119 on: January 14, 2015, 03:44:33 PM »
Another good question SHIELA. Spencer Fleming's last book was in 2013, and they don't mention a new one coming up, but they don't list her as dead, either.

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/s/julia-spencer-fleming/

In edit.I dug a bit more. her web site ends just before her last book came out in 2013. But Google didn't come up with any obituaries of her. She was born in 1961, so she's 53.

A mystery!