Author Topic: The Library (Read 2326035 times)

Dana · « **Reply #12480 on:** December 07, 2013, 11:57:18 AM »

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I don't know if I could stand to read it, Marifjay. I looked up the rape of Nanking when I first got the book, so I know what it would contain, and it's so horrible that I approached even the novel with some trepidation.

FlaJean · « **Reply #12481 on:** December 07, 2013, 12:20:25 PM »

On my iPad I look up stuff on Google many times a day and never get advertising messages.

On the iPad
Click on Settings then click on Safari. On the right click on Privacy and Security,
Then click on Block Cookies, you will have 3 choices. I have mine set on "From third parties and advertisers". Go back to Safari and you notice in Blue lettering in the right column that you can clear your memory or cookies and data. I occasionally clear my memory but never my cookies.

JeanneP · « **Reply #12482 on:** December 07, 2013, 01:05:46 PM »

Ginny. Now who was the author of " you've done ,what my lord".?cant find it.

nlhome · « **Reply #12483 on:** December 07, 2013, 01:12:56 PM »

Just for the record, there is no "Obamacare.gov" site. I know a woman who signed up for something after googling "obamacare" and she got all sorts of insurance company phone calls and emails. It was not the government site.

jane · « **Reply #12484 on:** December 07, 2013, 01:26:34 PM »

Quote from: FlaJean on December 07, 2013, 12:20:25 PM

On my iPad I look up stuff on Google many times a day and never get advertising messages.

On the iPad
Click on Settings then click on Safari. On the right click on Privacy and Security,
Then click on Block Cookies, you will have 3 choices. I have mine set on "From third parties and advertisers". Go back to Safari and you notice in Blue lettering in the right column that you can clear your memory or cookies and data. I occasionally clear my memory but never my cookies.

I have those same settings, and I still see the ads on websites I visit, including this one,,,both the Amazon ones and the AdChoice ones.

BarbStAubrey · « **Reply #12485 on:** December 07, 2013, 02:55:39 PM »

The poster about this was a remembered trauma - the summer before I started first grade we attended some event that my older cousin was a Boy Scout and they had an encampment with all these rows of tents. He and my Uncle were there for some time - I think a month which is why we were visiting - outside the gate to the encampment was this poster in bright colors of explosions in the background and horrified people running toward the viewer with small insets of silhouetted soldiers with bayonets and their legs wrapped, they both stuck the bayonets into babies and marched others with the bayonet pointed at them and a tank in the background of the main part where the explosions were going off behind the people running as if the tank was going to run them down - across the top where thick black letters on a slight angle that I did not know what it said - I could not fathom at first, my eyes traveled over every detail trying to figure out how this could be and then, as I saw all this I was riveted sharing their feeling of terror.

My mother kept calling me to come along as they were all walking on but I could not move and could barely hear her for what my mind was putting together and then shutting down. I was always dawdling so that hearing again 'Hurry up, come on Bobby', my childhood nick name, was usual. Finally my mother came over and guided me away saying it could never happen here. I could not answer and in my mind it did not matter, it happened or was happening and it was something that stayed with me that people were experiencing this horror. I knew it was in China, which I guessed because the faces in the poster were Chinese. I was in this other world for the rest of the day and Mom kept looking at me with what I could see was concern and she kept encouraging me to eat at the picnic. I was just numb.

Talk about being set up for the hysteria at the start of WWII with everyone smashing and burning anything that was labeled 'made in Japan'.

bellamarie · « **Reply #12486 on:** December 07, 2013, 07:30:28 PM »

njhome, I assumed everyone understood me to be speaking of the link that the government provides for people to sign up for the exchanges to Obamacare/Affordable Care Act, whichever is preferred to be called. My point is that the programmers have not yet built the security part to the site so at this time there is NO security whatsoever. Sorry for not posting the exact link. I sure don't want to misguide anyone.

I don't have an ipad so I am not aware of being able to set your cookies to stop the ads from coming, after browsing Google. I do know my spam is immediately filled with ads from companies relating to whatever I have just looked up on Google. It would be nice if we could stop them.

Ciao for now~

Steph · « **Reply #12487 on:** December 08, 2013, 09:31:44 AM »

Settings... safari.... no security button... just clear cookies button and clear all button.. dont want that one for sure.

nlhome · « **Reply #12488 on:** December 08, 2013, 09:57:34 AM »

I use Firefox, and have the security settings pretty restrictive. All I see on this site are the Amazon links. I do have to enter my user names and passwords for just about every site I go to, because I lose those all whenever I close Firefox. It's annoying, but good memory practice, and I don't get much in the way of junk email. My ISP blocks most junk emails, and every day it sends me a listing of the emails it blocked, in case there is one that I actually want to let through.

nlhome · « **Reply #12489 on:** December 08, 2013, 10:07:13 AM »

Bellamarie, I learned not to assume much when it comes to web sites, as simply missing one letter can take a person to the wrong place. Type in Obamacare.gov and you get all sorts of things to click on, but the real healthcare.gov site is not, at least not in my Google search, close to the top.

Also, I believe Consumer Reports has recently changed its stance on the site, at least as of about December 3 and is suggesting that people use it.

JoanP · « **Reply #12490 on:** December 08, 2013, 01:28:58 PM »

Thanks for commenting on the Pearl Buck, Dana. Can you tell how long after the Good Earth Trilogy Dragonseed was written?

I came in this morning with the latest news regarding our vote for the January's group discussion...twp questions, actually...

SeniorLearn's January Book Club Online selection must be decided this week - by you by Dec. 14! Sometimes we need multiple votes when there are so many excellent nominations. We promise to consider these titles for future reads in the new year, but for January we are down to these TWO TITLES.
Please cast your vote HERE without delay! Thanks, everyone!

maryz · « **Reply #12491 on:** December 08, 2013, 02:03:09 PM »

I've just started Orphan Train. I don't know who recommended it, but many thanks. I'm enjoying it a lot and learning even more.

Dana · « **Reply #12492 on:** December 08, 2013, 02:28:12 PM »

The Good Earth was published in 1931 and Dragonseed in 1941.

Steph · « **Reply #12493 on:** December 09, 2013, 09:09:22 AM »

Is Orphan Train real or fiction.The real one interests me a lot.

maryz · « **Reply #12494 on:** December 09, 2013, 10:24:10 AM »

I think this book is fiction, but probably based in fact.

CallieOK · « **Reply #12495 on:** December 09, 2013, 03:11:35 PM »

http://www.neh.gov/humanities/2007/novemberdecember/feature/lost-children-riders-the-orphan-train
Here's a link to the history of of the Orphan Trains.

maryz · « **Reply #12496 on:** December 09, 2013, 05:28:00 PM »

Thanks for the link, Callie.

Steph · « **Reply #12497 on:** December 10, 2013, 08:48:28 AM »

I have read so many varying accounts of the orphan trains.. Did not realize there is a museum. If I were still in the rv, we could have stopped in Kansas. How neat that would have been.

ginny · « **Reply #12498 on:** December 10, 2013, 09:27:33 AM »

Jeanne, the author of You've Done What, My Lord? Is Rory Clark.

Steph · « **Reply #12499 on:** December 11, 2013, 08:58:47 AM »

Will look him up on my swap club.

MaryPage · « **Reply #12500 on:** December 11, 2013, 08:38:17 PM »

I feel as though I have over my many years seen more than one movie, my brain is telling me some were basically Westerns, about the orphan trains and read more than one book and more than one first hand magazine story about this phase of our national history. I am unable to cite the particulars, but I do remember well that there were experiences all up and down the scale. Similar stories were the women who headed west to find husbands and married up with whatever was at the end of the line. Then there were the stories, both here in the States and in England, about the children from Great Britain and Europe being sent from their homes for safety during World War II and taken in by families for a whole variety of reasons and with varying results. One of the most fascinating stories I ever read was by a teenager from England who spent 5 years with a family, I think it was in New England, and she went home thoroughly an American and had great difficulty adjusting. I remember roaring with laughter at her real mother's horror when the girl spoke of putting napkins on the table. Stuff like that. And back then English children were reared more strictly than American children.

pedln · « **Reply #12501 on:** December 11, 2013, 10:49:40 PM »

There's a fairly recent film, 2011, starring Christian Bale -- The Flowers of War -- where his character vows to get a mix of young students and prostitutes out of the city of Nanking and into safety.

Steph · « **Reply #12502 on:** December 12, 2013, 08:58:26 AM »

My parents got so called "Fresh Air" children from NYC for years.. They came on the train and then later buses from NYC, spent anywhere from two weeks to all summer and some of ours came again at Christmas.. Their manners and ours were as different as day and night.

maryz · « **Reply #12503 on:** December 12, 2013, 09:46:04 AM »

Steph, I'd never heard of Fresh Air Children, so I looked it up. The organization still exists!

http://www.freshair.org/

Tomereader1 · « **Reply #12504 on:** December 12, 2013, 11:13:37 AM »

MaryPage, is there something I'm missing here? About "putting napkins on the table"? I know that's not a purely American thing, so why would her mother be horrified by her saying that?

BarbStAubrey · « **Reply #12505 on:** December 12, 2013, 11:20:52 AM »

More than likely any difference in the family habits and traditions would be upsetting to the mother who was probably conflicted wanting what according to her government was safety for her child and her loss of her child all those years which must have been a hole in her heart - folks that cannot really name what is painful often complain about silly things.

jane · « **Reply #12506 on:** December 12, 2013, 01:03:20 PM »

I wonder if she was horrified because of a difference in meaning of "napkin" here and in the UK? Maybe meant something like diaper, since i believe that or the "nappie" is used where we say diaper.

MaryPage · « **Reply #12507 on:** December 12, 2013, 05:50:06 PM »

It used to be, in the old days of my childhood, that in England
diapers were called napkins
and
napkins were called serviettes.
So you see, the mother thought the daughter was suggesting she put diapers on the dinner table!

JeanneP · « **Reply #12508 on:** December 12, 2013, 07:05:15 PM »

They are still called Nappies in UK. I use to get so confused with the American names of things. Our biscuits, your cookies. Our Prams you called carriages or strollers. Petrol called GAS. Never could figure that out. Hundreds of different things.

MaryPage · « **Reply #12509 on:** December 13, 2013, 09:19:43 AM »

That is what made the book, which was a true autobiography and not fiction at all, so funny. And sad. I cannot remember the details, as it must have been at least 60 years since it was written, but I think the girl was roughly ten when she left England and fifteen when she went back home. I mean, she was an all American teenager at that point!
The list of the best crime novels of 2013 has come out, and here it is:

The Luminaries by Eleanor Catton

Harvest by Jim Crace

A Man Without Breath by Philip Kerr

The Hired Man by Aminatta Forna

Every Contact Leaves a Trace by Elanor Dymott

The Infatuations by Javier Marias

Visitation Street by Ivy Pochoda

The Uninvited by Liz Jensen

The Andalucian Friend by Alexander Soderberg

Gods and Beasts by Denise Mina

Denise Mina is the only author I know well here. I have heard of Kerr.

I also want to read Empress Dowager Cixi by Jung Chang. I have read an awful lot about her before, but it is always fascinating and delicious.

BarbStAubrey · « **Reply #12510 on:** December 13, 2013, 11:45:43 AM »

hmm read Harvest by Jim Crace but did not think it was a crime novel - interesting - yes, there was criminal activity but from earlier centuries when life was changing from hand labor to mechanical labor on the farms of England -

Lots of folks put off the land that they thought was their family generational home and because of legal maneuvering the land was cleared of all those who in the past plowed, planted and harvested

The book was about the last harvest completed by a small group who were put off the land and because of the death of the mistress the lord was kicked out although he sides with and joins his wife's brother the new absentee landlord.

I would call this book a period piece certainly not a crime novel.

mabel1015j · « **Reply #12511 on:** December 13, 2013, 12:51:57 PM »

From Pinterest this morning, a number of Christmas books lists along with others.........sorry, i don't know how to shorten the url.

From the Cincinnati Librarians, as you can see.

http://www.pinterest.com/cincylibrary/booklists/?e_t_s=boards&e_t=ce9ade99f79248c58ee4ea1d92d8b661&utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly_recs_131209_recs_131209_509_recs_131209_09_female_pinrecs_o6_h0_p0_female_boardrecs_o6_p0_subj_dont_miss_out

Steph · « **Reply #12512 on:** December 13, 2013, 02:35:00 PM »

Have read Denise Mina, but not that one. Otherwise, I draw a blank.. and that weird since I read a lot of mysteries.

JeanneP · « **Reply #12513 on:** December 13, 2013, 07:48:10 PM »

Land rights are still funny in the UK. Unless your deed on you titles say FREE HOLD. Then you just own what is built on the land. The land belongs to the Crown. So many farm were that way. You Owned the building but the Crown owns the land. Centuries ago that covered all the land. Then kings starting signing deeds giving the land to certain people and Families. LOts of the great homes people still pay Ground Rent or Rates, as they call them, yearly to be on the land. That is why people are able to cross any land when walking all over England. . People have the right away. Now you can buy the land and from then on it is Called FREE HOLD. Covers a lot of it now.

Steph · « **Reply #12514 on:** December 14, 2013, 09:23:06 AM »

Hawaii has a lot of the same rules about land..

PatH · « **Reply #12515 on:** December 14, 2013, 10:15:27 AM »

That's interesting, Jeanne. It explains some things I wondered about.

Britishisms vs Americanisms: one of my favorites is "I'm mad about my flat". It can mean I'm crazy about (love) my apartment, or I'm angry that my tire got punctured.

pedln · « **Reply #12516 on:** December 14, 2013, 11:30:10 AM »

Britishisms vs Americanisms: they ARE interesting. I like the expression "move house" for ? moving? Have often wondered if there is a difference between the two.

Remember Eats Shoots and Leaves? I liked the "full stop" for period.

Re: the crime list -- very unfamiliar. I didn't recognize a one.

Tomereader1 · « **Reply #12517 on:** December 14, 2013, 12:05:48 PM »

American: Car Trunk; British - Boot
American: Car Hood; British - I forgot, but I know there is one!
Elevator - Lift

maryz · « **Reply #12518 on:** December 14, 2013, 12:50:57 PM »

I think the car hood in Britain is "bonnet".

JeanneP · « **Reply #12519 on:** December 14, 2013, 01:29:00 PM »

No getting out today. Streets, roads not been cleared. Really having a heavy snow storm. No mail. Papers today Can't see my car and still coming down. So Cooking a nice meal, reading. Got Series 6 of Doc. Martin to watch along with 5 other movies. Just hope all power, heater all stay working and I will be happy enough. Not hearing any cars moving around. Thank goodness it is Saturday would have been a hard day for people to get to work.
I remember when I was snowed in and still working. Office/plant just mile away. Had about 150 in office and 700 in plant. Many would not make it. Me they would sent the snow shifter out to dig me out and get me in. As I was only one handled the International Customers then the phone had to be answered. ONe time only 4 of us of the office got in...Thinking ourselves just silly buggers for doing it. Rest still got paid. Never thought of giving us a free day off.

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