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« Reply #20880 on: April 15, 2020, 07:52:50 AM »

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« Reply #20881 on: April 15, 2020, 07:58:29 AM »

Barbara, I got to the chickens chapter this morning in Chickens, Mules, and Two Old Fools, and it's so fun as is the entire book, and the egg business stuff is absolutely right on. Very much enjoying my daily laugh with it. It's so escapist because  that's what she was doing, escaping...so it's fun to read about...I hope you are feeling better soon, as well.

Forget The Iceman Cometh, I looked up the plot first and I can't think of anything I'd less rather read right now, so for me the Iceman will have to melt-eth. (I wonder why that's not a word and the other one is). Maybe it is a word?

Annie,  I am glad to see you here and to hear you had such a great walk with a friend in the cold. It does change perspective to get outside! And that was a long walk, too. Good for you !

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« Reply #20882 on: April 15, 2020, 11:38:03 AM »
Annie, it's good to see you, and learn you're still OK.  I'm glad your Assisted Living organization is doing the right things to keep people safe.

Before we get too far from iceboxes, I'd like to share that in my Portland apartment building, all the apartments have a little door, about 2 feet square, at floor level, beside the front door.  Mine opens into a built-in cabinet.  I'm probably one of the few residents who recognized what it was without being told.  The building was built in 1931, and is now a historic landmark.  It had every modern convenience, including refrigerator space in the kitchens for those who wanted it, and it still has every modern convenience from 1931--radiators with steam heat, the original elevator, even the old phone in a little cubby hole, but it's not connected.  The stove and refrigerator are modern.  It's actually very comfortable and well-designed.  Goodness knows when I'll be able to fly safely and get back to it.  I was just about to fly back when everything blew up.

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« Reply #20883 on: April 15, 2020, 01:28:28 PM »
Well, ya'll, we are having a ridiculous snow shower today.  Can't believe I looked out my living room picture window and the flakes are so big, coming down as if it were December.

PatH., It may be awhile before you ever get to fly back to Portland.  It does seem the numbers are flattening, and there is talk of getting some regions back to work.  I know you mentioned you worked with Dr. Fauci, years ago, I had to giggle when he got frustrated with the news reporters the other day and sorta, kinda got short with them, telling them NO ONE tells him what to do or say, he makes his own decisions.  Poor guy, the last thing he needs are reporters trying to discredit his great work, and reputation.

Wondering how Jonathan is doing?  Hopefully he will drop in soon to say hi. 
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« Reply #20884 on: April 15, 2020, 03:10:28 PM »
Looks like we are all at the stage where it is one struggle or another - we know we will get through this but we are at the stage where we are slogging through

Pat I had to do a double take - your Portland apartment sounds like my grandson's apartment in Seattle - a rent controlled older building across from the hospital in downtown Seattle.

Ginny I can't wait till you get to the end of chapter 23 and try the link - if like me you will laugh outloud - the fun is just about to begin. An audacious author...

I guess in someways the fact it is still cold and you with Snow, Bellamarie is a blessing - as Rosemary points out the vast number of families in tight quarters during all this are at least not putting up with heat - that to me, with several people sharing a space is more uncomfortable then putting on a sweater. I wonder how many of the apartment houses have roof space that a schedule could be created so that each family could have at least an hour to walk around and let the children stretch their legs and breath in some fresh air - to coup children up who are between the ages of 5 and 12 is not healthy - plus everytime they attempt to report a child had contracted the virus they are proven wrong - at this point it seems to me they could test the teachers, school bus drivers, and a limited personal that would be required and get the kids back to school - up till now I can see leadership was focused on just taking care of those who are ill and procuring the required equipment - maybe there will be something figured out by week's end when the plan for re-opening is made public.

OK Rosemary - I do not know if you click on this link if you will get the amazon excerpt of the book - but the entire first chapter about Prince Charlie is in this excerpt...  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1948924242/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Seems he and his army were within 172 miles of London and news arrived that his cousin, King George II, with his Hanoverian army of 25 battalions of infantry and 23 squadrons of cavalry had arrived from Flanders along with rumors that London was being defended by strong forces (turned out to be a false rumor) and so Charlie, a Stuart, goes back to Scotland - cold and hungry he falls ill with the flu and they use Bonnockburn  House to recoup - food is hard to find and all he does is get biscuits for his soldiers - the Culloden House requisitioned by Charlie to prepare for a battle is known for its storage and use of French wine - so much wine that anyone can come to the gate and drink a glass - there is a lot more description about the unsuitable choice of the march chosen by Charlie and the difference in how King George II supplies and feeds his soldiers and other bits but Charlie arranges this sumptuous dinner for his Highland Chiefs where the wine flows freely and confidence grows with each glass of wine - they are up all night - the house uses special made chairs so that when guests are drunk the staff can take them to bed by lifting the chairs - the cold starving foot soldiers are very delayed with what was supposed to be a surprise attack as the Hanover soldiers were in their camp partying with whiskey and meat - slogging through the moor they were going to arrive after day light - too late for a surprise attack, Murray, the Duke of Perth leading the highland army returns.

Charlie is outraged, he did not trust Murray from the get go - the French Ambassador begs Charlie not to fight that day - no one was prepared and it was suggested a retreat - more whiskey and Prince Charlie goes to bed in his clothes - the Duke of Cumberland got wind of the attempt - advances - the Campbell Highlanders join Cumberland - (again, this is a very shortened telling) - Many of Charlie's starving troops raid nearby villages and are eating green tops of anything growing in nearby fields so that when Cumberland arrives the remaining troops are slaughtered in less then 2 hours. Charlie escapes to the Isle of Skye then criss crosses the islands till he gets to a Lock and 2 French ships rescue him - More to the story including his womanizing and marriages - a year after the battle a treaty is signed in Provence between Bonnie Prince Charlie, who never returns to Scotland and King George II -

"His final Culloden dinner may have set the seal on his fate in more ways than one. The loyalist troops of the Hanoverian King George II could not rest on their laurels for long. By 1754, two million British settlers had occupied large tracts of land in North America. The French, meanwhile, had only around 75,000 settlers in their own North American colonies, and they relied heavily on the support of the Native Americans in what was rapidly becoming an escalating conflict with their old enemies from Britain. As we will see in the next chapter, attempts by the British to raise taxes on their American colonies to pay for the war against the French and their Indian allies sowed the seeds of rebellion and led ultimately to the American Revolutionary War and to the creation of the United States of America."

If the link above does not work Rosemary, you may try to find the book on your UK version of Amazon and then here, if we click on the cover pictured some of the book is made available for us to read - seems to me I have had that experience a couple of times when a book available in Britain on UK Amazon is not yet published here in the states. 
The Course of History: Ten Meals That Changed the World
Hardcover – April 23, 2019
by Struan Stevenson (Author), Tony Singh (Author)
 
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« Reply #20885 on: April 16, 2020, 12:49:54 PM »
Since this pandemic, and honestly even before it, but more so now, I have had a difficult time getting myself to settle down and read.  I love reading, but for some reason, my mind is all over the place, not to mention my eyes are exhausted by the end of the day after sewing masks all day long.  I came across this article and found it useful, thought I would share it.

https://modernmrsdarcy.com/reading-tips-when-focus-is-hard/?
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Ya'll have a great Thursday....... I mentioned the day only because I keep forgetting what day it is.   :)
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« Reply #20886 on: April 16, 2020, 02:07:40 PM »
And isn't it interesting what people ARE reading now? Maybe a change of theme, trying something new, might help too? A different genre?

I was sent a lovely video by a face to face student reading ee cummings, a cheerful ode to Spring.  I could not help but reflect on the positivity of her reading and the three things now resonating in my brain, like the Guardian this morning I've been thinking of Eliot's The Waste Land,  April is the cruelest month, Richard III's Winter of our Discontent and, drawing to the end now of the Mirror and the Light the uncanny experience of reading about people in the plague (called Sweating Sickness) of the 1500's, what with the pandemic now.  I am not sure what that says about me but it's probably not good.  hahaha
 
Of course I've got  Barbara's Chickens Mules and Two Old Fools to laugh myself to sleep over, it never ceases to entertain. I am thinking I would like  it in real book form, it's a keeper,  and will read the next one, too, she is a very good writer. It's very similar to the Egg and I, but it may be better. People who watched that charming TV show with Fred MacMurray do not realize the end of their story.

Hope everybody is staying safe and well!


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« Reply #20887 on: April 17, 2020, 01:12:55 PM »
What Count Alexander Ilyich Rostov Taught Me about Quarantine: Lessons on Confinement and Camaraderie from Amor Towles’s A Gentleman in Moscow 

“By the smallest of one’s actions, one can restore some sense of order to the world.”—Amor Towles


Count Rostov’s Ten Rules for Indoor Living

1. Live a life of the “purposefully unrushed.” The unexpected transition to a house-bound lifestyle might have some of us a little high-strung, as we try to balance a full work schedule, watching the news, suffering through dreaded at-home workouts, and the inevitable phone call from a bored relative. Take a breath and prioritize, but don’t let your work spill over into important recuperation time. “When all was said and done,” the count argues, “the endeavors that most modern men saw as urgent . . . probably could have waited, while those they deemed frivolous (such as cups of tea and friendly chats) had deserved their immediate attention.” Channel your inner aristocrat and take some shameless breaks from the computer to attend to personal matters.

2. Abandon your FOMO. Fear of missing out? Careful, the count warns: “Imagining what might happen if one’s circumstances were different is the only sure route to madness.” First of all, it’s pretty unnecessary, because literally everyone else you know is stuck at home, too. But besides that, having an empty social schedule is a great opportunity to assess how you spend your time, and with whom. Does an activity or a person bring you joy—or bring you down? Is it necessary, or is it just stressing you out? If you’re really into this idea, go into your day planner and check out the last few months. Circle the experiences you remember the most fondly and the ones that produced a positive outcome. Then check out the events left not circled. As the count’s dear friend Richard Vanderwhile would say: “I’m quite fond of being left behind. It always gives me a whole new perspective on wherever it was I thought I was leaving.”

3. Eat and drink like a twentieth-century aristocrat. When you’re working from home, it’s easy to toss back those leftovers like you’re eighteen and it’s Taco Bell, and it’s only on your last bite that you remember to actually taste something. Cook a long meal (you’ve got the time), use the whole spice rack, and then eat it really slow like its Emile’s bouillabaisse and you had to smuggle the saffron across continents. And to top it off: learn how to pair your wines. For Count Rostov, that means a bottle of Baudelaire with fish, Grand Cru with roasted duck, and a Barolo with the osso buco. We may be stuck at home, and maybe we can only afford a six-dollar bottle of Cab, but that doesn’t stop us from being classy.

4. Revamp your space. You don’t need to jump on the Marie Kondo bandwagon to make your place ~zen af~. It’s time to declutter and donate! As the count enlightens us, “We come to hold our dearest possessions more closely than we hold our friends. We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience . . . while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance. . . . But, of course, a thing is just a thing.” Walk around your space and pick only the most important things to keep by saying Count Rostov’s magic words: “This. That. Those. All the books.

5. Read the classics . . . or don’t. Speaking of books, you know those classics on your bookshelf you’ve been guilting yourself over—you know, the ones that “promise heft and threaten impenetrability”? Count Rostov knows the feeling. I have never observed such quiet desperation as I did watching the count try to conquer the volumes of Montaigne, which he (mercifully) abandons for an old favorite. If you get fired up by the classics section at your local indie, kudos to you—read on. But if you’re a mere mortal like the rest of us, stop pretending to read your high-school syllabus and pick up something you’ll actually enjoy. Or how about rereading a book you loved years ago? This is my second read of A Gentleman, and I savored every bite. In the words of Count Rostov, “How could one possibly accuse him of nostalgia or idleness, of wasting his time simply because he had read the story two or three times before?” Take a page from the count’s book and use the classics to fix that wobbly three-legged armoire.

6. Break down your walls. Okay, maybe rein it in a bit on this one. The count might actually knock down his hotel room walls in the Metropol, but I’m talking about your personal walls here. Find a mindfulness meditation on YouTube, dust off that journal, or take the Proust Questionnaire with your roommates. Open yourself up to discussions you don’t have the headspace for—or maybe the courage for—in your normal day-to-day. Your mental state is a critical component of your health, so use this opportunity to discover, challenge, and expand your own views or learn more about the people with whom you share your space. Come to terms with your circumstances or make an actionable plan to change them. Like the count says, “If one does not master one’s circumstances, one is bound to be mastered by them.”

7. Invest in gold and silver. This is an easy one. Money in the bank is fickle, titles are just words (just ask “Comrade” Rostov), and every empire—no matter how soignée!—must fall. But you never know when a table leg chock-a-block with gold coins will come in handy. Seriously, though, do some googling; with a tumultuous stock market, it’s a really good time to invest in precious metals.

8. Explore the indoors. How well do you actually know your home? Where’s the best place to enjoy the afternoon sun, or hear the rain on the pavement? What’s actually on top of your kitchen cupboard, or behind those coats in the hall closet? Where’s the best hiding spot? Follow Nina Kulikova’s lead and discover your own hotel’s best-kept secrets, but if you must spy on your fellow guests (read: roommates) from hidden passageways, try not to rip your custom Savile Row satin pants this time.

9. Master your appearance. Yes, those stretchy pants are tempting—and truth be told, I am wearing them while I write this—but Count Rostov is a firm believer in dressing for the occasion, and for the count, every occasion is one that requires one’s complete arsenal of charm. Want to be nimble with a thimble? Learn how to sew on a button or stitch up that hole in those satin pants. You’ll use this skill more often than you think, especially if you’re sleuthing around the hotel with Nina.

10. Adopt a stray. Count Rostov finds love in a hopeless place with a one-eyed cat named Kutuzov, who wanders into the count’s quarters and promptly decides to cohabit. With businesses closing left and right, local shelters are in desperate need of foster parents for their terrier tenants. Why not do a kind thing and score some extra cuddles? Extra points if you get a cat with one eye.

Aristocratic Activities While Physical Distancing

Try out a few of the count’s favorite pastimes:

1. Learn to tell a really good story. Whether it’s about a blacksmith’s son, or traveling sea merchants, or the time you got locked in the wine cellar with the young baroness, always have a story on hand to charm your friends or outwit your foes. Don’t be afraid of tangents (as the count’s two-page-long asterisk on page 100 tells us, it’s okay to get a little sidetracked). They’re a little extra spice in the stew.

2. Play a game of Zut. This is an evening favorite of Count Rostov and his young companion, Sofia. Have one friend propose a category, like black-and-white animals, or famous foursomes (Earth, water, wind, fire? The four card suits?), then go back and forth and say an item in that category until one player stumbles. Best two out of three wins, to whatever consequence you decide. Zut is the name of the game, just don’t let your kids Google Translate it.

3. Try your hand at writing. Have you been known to “fence with a quill”? And by that, I mean, do you sometimes make coherent sentences appear on Microsoft Word? Why not sit down for an hour and give it a proper try? Of his famous poem, the count explains, “I simply happened to be sitting at the particular desk on the particular morning when it chose to make its demands.” Sit, my friends, and let the Muse come to you! And remember, “A king fortifies himself with the castle, a gentleman with a desk.” Choose yours wisely! Just try not to write anything that pisses off the Bolsheviks.

4. Take a mental walk. From the newspaper stand on Tverskaya Street, say hello to the ladies from Filippov’s, head to the Galerie Bertrand for the newest exhibition, and circle back through the Alexander Gardens toward noon. . . . Like the count enjoying a Moscow morning from afar, try closing your eyes and taking a long stroll through your town, step by step, remembering and imagining every detail of the people, sounds, and colors. How do the lilacs smell in the spring?

Amor Towles’s A Gentleman in Moscow is 462 pages of pure comfort food. Everything about this book—the names (Konstantin Konstantinovich, Mikhail Fyodorovich Mindich, Anna Urbanova), the dishes (the lamb, the roasted bass), the literary references (ah, beloved Tolstoy!)—provokes nostalgia for a country and an era with which the reader most likely has no personal attachment. And no, you don’t have to be familiar with Russian history to love this book; I certainly was not. No matter where you’re cooped up or who you’re cooped up with, the count’s mastery of charm and chivalry soothes the self-isolated’s palate like a nightcap at the Metropol’s Shalyapin Bar.

by SarahBelle Selig, writer for the South African Bone Marrow Registry.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #20888 on: April 18, 2020, 11:20:53 AM »
Oh Barb, my favorite book of all times just might be A Gentleman In Moscow, and now look at how his insight into being held up inside fits into today's world.  Thank You!  I needed this today.  I might add one more activity to his list......sew!  Remember his seamstress?

Here in Ohio, the snow is melting, sun is shining, and we are about to enter Phase 1 of Opening America, what is there not to be hopeful about.  Like Count Rostov showed us, there are better days ahead.

Happy Saturday!!  I woke up asking my hubby, "What day of the week is it today?" ???

Jonathan, hope all is well with you, and you are held up reading some very interesting books you will share with us soon.
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« Reply #20889 on: April 18, 2020, 01:26:13 PM »
Barb, that certainly was a breath of fresh air from Count Rostov.  Thank you.

Bellamarie, I have the same reaction of not being able to settle to reading.  And I'm not being useful by sewing masks to make up for it.  Some of my other friends feel the same way--a kind of irritable purposelessness.

I did remember it was Saturday, though, because I had to get up at 6 for a grocery delivery.  I didn't have to get dressed, though.  It's contactless delivery, and they don't want you to open the door until they're gone.

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« Reply #20890 on: April 19, 2020, 10:06:48 AM »
PatH., Good for you for staying in. We do a click list, and pick up curbside, or my son who is an essential worker, (drink distributor) who has to be in his stores every day, will pick up groceries for us. 

With not reading so much lately, I kinda feel like the scripture Ecclesiastes 3  There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens:

I saw on the local news last night the hospitals are asking for more homemade masks to be donated, since the president has announced getting ready to enter Phase 1 of re-opening America.  It will be mandatory for visitors, patients, returning workers, etc., to wear them. The need is only going to be greater, so today, after watching the live streaming of our church's Mass, I will get to my sewing. 

I remember growing up hearing my Mom say, "Every stitch you put in on a Sunday, you will have to pick out with your NOSE when you get to heaven."   Don't know where that superstition started, but I think I'm going to be busy when/if I get to Heaven!   :P

Ya'll stay safe & stay healthy.
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« Reply #20891 on: April 19, 2020, 10:16:29 AM »
haha mine said with our teeth - not as bad as with your nose  ;D followed by her own statement of we better take care of our teeth - go in there and brush them right now...!
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« Reply #20892 on: April 19, 2020, 01:15:46 PM »
Oh, dear, Bellamarie and Barb, you really gave me a good morning laugh, which I kind of needed.  Somehow I doubt you'll be pulling out stitches in Heaven.

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« Reply #20893 on: April 19, 2020, 04:13:47 PM »
 ;) haha at least our Moms assumed we would get to heaven - and there would be jobs for us when we got there  ;D
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« Reply #20894 on: April 20, 2020, 08:11:44 PM »
How's everybody staying sane?

I spent half of last night watching a guy on youtube show how to root hydrangeas. It was strangely soporific, but one could not tear one's eyes away, fascinating. All you need is a plastic cup, a plant and one of those plastic boxes people store ornaments in and you're all set.

I'm ready. I envision a million hydrangeas in future in the yard.

I'm at the end of the Mirror and the Light, and it's certainly striking. I've learned a lot, about Thomas More, Henry VIII and Thomas Cromwell, who did end up a noble, he was the Earl of Essex and in one very memorable scene his son and nephew rode in a procession with their family (his family) crest flags  flying ahead of his own 1,600 soldiers. That should have been the epitome of his life's desires...but it's not going to be a happy ending. A lot will depend on how much the reader has identified with him. Very little left.

According to the BBC if you can juggle three balls, and you juggle once a day, at the end of... I forget the period,  your brain will be shown to have tremendously increased synapses at the hippocampus and one other brain area, can't remember which,  and can't juggle. How hard can it be? (They also said if you can't learn to juggle learn a new language, same thing).

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« Reply #20895 on: April 20, 2020, 10:30:49 PM »
Barb, funny, I never looked at it that way....we be going to heaven.  lol

Ginny, I have been growing the most gorgeous hydrangeas for years.  My Annabelle hydrangea, I bought on Mother's Day years back in honor of my Mom whose name is Annabelle, is enormous and beautiful!   Each year I plant a perennial in honor of her passing, this flower out did itself.  This is a pic of it, along with my Mom's pink rose bush that I started from a small shoot from my sister two years ago.  I can't wait to get back into gardening.

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« Reply #20896 on: April 21, 2020, 09:25:32 AM »
Well THAT is absolutely gorgeous! Obviously you have a green thumb and a flair for garden design!  I don't have either but I've got the roses transplanted now, and so  in for a penny,  as they say.

Today I'm picking up curbside from a closed nursery something called Invincibelle Wee White Hydrangea, it's a dwarf Annabelle (which I think is THE most beautiful hydrangea except for the pink and white variegated  ones which I just have heard about) but anyway it's got the huge blooms of Annabelle,  but it's only 2 feet tall and 3 wide and  the blooms don't weigh the stems down in the rain, always upright, so I have got to try this little giant. And supposedly it wants full sun which it won't get here.

Our other  hydrangeas in what I euphemistically call  my "old fashioned garden" (read: out of control varieties of the past most of which were here when we moved here 40+ years ago and the rest from our old house and cuttings from friends)  are way over my head and  wonderfully happy in their own setting,  but I want stuff now in my old age which I can control in the immediate yard, maybe.  I've also planted last fall  an Itoh Peony called Bartzella  https://www.waltersgardens.com/variety.php?ID=PAEBA  which I saw at Biltmore and it blew me away, and the story of the developer moved me, (he worked and worked and created this beautiful new type of peony but died before he saw it bloom)...The plant is out of this world... or it is  at Biltmore. What I do with it remains to be seen.

But hey! Now to get those 6 foot tall  geraniums out of the house, my DIL who  is a landscape designer refers to them as "those poor things trying to get some sunlight," and she's right. :)


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« Reply #20897 on: April 22, 2020, 07:26:29 AM »
Good morning all, and I am so sorry not to have been in for a few days - I don't know where the time has disappeared to.

At the weekend my husband and I had a trip to two larger supermarkets a 10 minute drive away. We went late on Saturday when both were really quiet, but despite that I (who routinely shop in huge supermarkets in Edinburgh) felt quite unnerved by the whole experience. I realised I had not been out of this village for over a month, and I had become used to just shopping in the two very small local stores. The staff in the two big supermarkets were all lovely, and I did find many things that I can't get here, but my goodness some of the (few) other shoppers were scary. When I went into Aldi the guy on the door said 'please try to follow the arrows on the floor, but don't worry, we know it's difficult and that you may need to go back for something. '  Half way round the shop I turned the wrong way in an aisle by mistake (already feeling quite stressed) and although I backed off immediately, a woman approaching me with her trolley (I want to emphasise that I was nowhere within the 2m distance of her) started shouting at me about how I should be going the other way. I mumbled an apology and she just stomped off shaking her head as though I was a complete idiot. When I told my husband, he said 'well everyone is feeling uptight' - which I know is true, but that includes me as well as her! When we went to the second shop (Tesco, equally quiet) several people were having to go back to find things they'd forgotten, or just getting muddled with the arrows, and everyone was a nice as nice, we were all saying sorry, smiling and laughing. I guess the woman was just having a bad day, but she certainly did not improve mine!

Anyway, I hope that big shop will now last us for 2 weeks with occasional trips to the local shops on foot. And on the plus side, I was delighted to find that Tesco had some plants (as all of our local plant nurseries are closed). Usually I am a terrible ditherer about plants - see them, go home, look them up, think about it - but this time I knew I just needed to be decisive, so I came back with geraniums, marigolds, phlox, periwinkle, clematises, delphiniums, and even some miniature daffodils that Tesco had clearly been trying to market for a cheap Easter gift. They were crammed together in a tiny paper cup with no drainage and looked very sad. As they were knocked down to practically nothing, I thought I could at least plant them for next year - but within two days of my getting them out of their waterlogged container and into the flower bed, they have come back to life and are flowering beautifully.

Apart from all of that I have been walking, reading and reviewing. I will start a new post about the books.

Very best wishes to everyone,

Rosemary


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« Reply #20898 on: April 22, 2020, 08:02:03 AM »
So, on to book talk...

Barb, thank you so much for all the information about Charles II, very interesting. I wonder if any of you has seen the huge tapestry designed by Andrew Crummy that shows, amongst numerous other events depicted in hundreds of separate panels, the fall of Charles I and the subsequent return of his son to Scotland? It was displayed in our cathedral a few years ago and you had to walk round the entire Cathedral (which can seat 1,000 people) twice to see it all.

And Barb, thank you also for the post about A Gentleman in Moscow (which I read when we all did on here). Some of the ideas are indeed very useful for the situation in which we find ourselves today, although I think that, for me, the suggestion that we weed out our less satisfying social events is a moot point, - there are a few people whom I might quite like to stop seeing, but I could never do that to them (and I don't think they feel the same, as they initiate our meetings) - and also, of course, there are many people with whom I love to meet up, and I know I would feel quite upset if they weeded me out!  Sometimes I think we just have to take people as they are (I might feel differently if I had to see them every day of course...)   

Also the 'adopt a stray' idea, lovely as it is, is a bit of a problem here just now as no charities are rehoming - this is partly because they are unable safely to do home checks, so unless you have already been checked. they are asking you to wait until after the lockdown ends. I can understand that, and I guess it is also important not to jump into taking on an animal when you are at home, only to then go back to work or a busy social life so that the animal would be left alone all day - though I think that point relates far more to dogs.

However, I liked the suggestion of the mental tour around your own or another neighbourhood, and that is a great idea for when one wakes up in the middle of the night and can't get back to sleep. I am beginning to run out of word games I can play in my head - in the early hours of this morning I was trying to list book titles that include plants or trees! I found it quite a challenge - came up with Cedar Cove, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, The Black Tulip, Lucy Willow (a childhood favourite of my younger daughter), A Few Green Leaves - and not a lot else.

And I also entirely agree with the point about not forcing yourself to read classics that you've been avoiding for years. For me this is not the time to trudge through Tolstoy or (even worse) Dostoevsky; I am sticking mainly with Barbara Pym, Katie fforde, Ian Rankin, Rebecca Shaw, Amanda Cross, Angela Thirkell, Donna Leon - that sort of thing. I have just finished The Whitstable High Tide Swimming Club by Katie May, which I enjoyed a lot. It's about a group of women (and one man) who start meeting on the beach at Whitstable (in Kent) for open water swimming. It's the usual thing - they all have different reasons for being there, different problems and secrets - but it's all very well written, with well developed characters. When the beach, which is a bit of an institution in Whitstable, is threatened with development, the 'club' starts a campaign to save it.

I am now having to leave my comfort zone behind as I have two books to review for Saraband. I started the first this morning, which is Payback by Claire MacLeary - it's about two female private detectives in Aberdeen, and also about police investigations into the murder of a wealthy socialite, and some petty thefts from vulnerable women, all of whom have also been left a picture of a hangman's noose. I am about two-thirds of the way through, and all of the threads are starting to come together. I am always a bit hesitant to read a book set in somewhere I know very well in case the author hasn't researched the locations properly, but in this instance everything seems very accurate and I am enjoying recognising various streets and buildings. The book also subverts the usual Miss Marple trope, as the two women, Maggie and Wilma, who are neighbours, are both hard up and having to do lots of very dull insurance fraud cases to try to remain solvent. Maggie has come down in the world since her policeman husband died in disgrace, having been found guilty of corruption - something she is still trying to disprove - whilst Wilma has struggled to break free of her very humble start in life (a background which gives her useful access to various low life types in the city - although she is brash and apt to take the law into her own hands, she is also keen to improve herself and get the education she was originally denied.

The second book is by Iain Maitland, whose Mr Todd's Reckoning (a very creepy psychological thriller, the kind of thing I would never normally go within miles of) was oustandingly good. This new one is called The Scribbler.

Last night my husband wanted to watch a programme about William Mulholland, of whom I had never heard but it seems he was the Belfast born engineer who brought a water supply to Los Angeles. It was presented by Patrick Keilty, a comedian who was himself born in Co Down but I believe now lives in LA. I must say I wasn't convinced that this subject would be that interesting to me, but Keilty turned out to be an excellent presenter/investigator, both informative and amusing, and the story was fascinating. Whilst looking at the amazing engineering feats involved, Keilty did not shy away from the continuing cost to the Owens Valley of the loss of its water supply, nor of the terrible disaster when one of the dams burst.

And just like that it is lunchtime!  So I will leave you all in peace for now, and I look forward to hearing everyone's news and views.

Rosemary

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« Reply #20899 on: April 22, 2020, 10:03:48 AM »
 Those One Way  Arrows in the super markets  are causing a problem here, too, the little signs here aren't clear and nobody sees them and then are caught going the wrong way or trying to double back....it's something else. Like Keystone Kops with a shocked attitude from those doing the right thing.

And as your husband said, people are uptight. I actually had somebody HONK at me as I slowed down to turn in to a parking slot the other day at Home Depot.  REALLY? This same cretin in one of those gigantic bigass trucks ("I may not be much in life but I can drive this 80 foot tall 100 feet long pickup, by George,")  nearly rammed me in the driver's  side as he came out of HIS slot 100 mph which I did not appreciate either and showed it. Not his day.

We have a NORMAL  farm truck and it's 4 wheel drive and it would be dwarfed by this monster thing....hmpf

Love your gardening take home hahahhaa I went to two gardening centers in a larger city yesterday and had to fight my way INTO the one which was open, my gosh the flowers going out of it, unbelievable, one NEEDS one of those giant trucks to carry them, the lines of people!

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« Reply #20900 on: April 22, 2020, 11:10:22 AM »
Rosemary, no Wind in the Willows?

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« Reply #20901 on: April 22, 2020, 11:41:27 AM »
Thanks for reminding me of Barbara Pym, Rosemary.  She stands up well to rereading.

Without a car, my grocery shopping consists of online orders at two week intervals, which is working out OK so far.

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« Reply #20902 on: April 22, 2020, 03:58:04 PM »
In the past over 4 weeks I've been to the grocery stores twice -once to our beloved HEB - long family history, a Texas store that is known for its Christian values and charity during any crisis both in Texas and the surrounding states  - the other shopping was in one of Whole Foods smaller stores - so many nabbing delivery time faster than I could so it was jaw dropping that I had a delivery yesterday - anyhow - All I do is smile - I get a kick out of the independence of folks - I was a culprit without even realizing it -

Constructed for the virus were clear plastic window like structures installed between the checker and the customer so that there was an unencumbered space to put your groceries on the conveyor belt that after scanned is pushed into the area where the groceries are sacked - for a bunch of years now we have to bring our on sacks - a green thing so there would no longer be plastic shopping sacks in the city garbage - well my sacks, except for one which is the usual cloth the others are what fishermen use to bring home their catch that I had picked up in France years ago - well the sacker did not seem to understand and bottles against bottles and so typically when folks are not doing something to our satisfaction we smile and take over -

Well there is all this Kerfuffle between the sacker and the cashier/checker and pointing to some yellow tape on the floor that made no sense to me since it was back where you slide in your credit card, which by the way there was no place to pay with cash - I have no clue what they are trying to convey and simply go on sacking my groceries - the cashier, I did not recognize and so she must be new to our location to replace the cashier who is an older guy - and none of the handicapped are sacking - I think the guy sacking was actually a manager - so being dense I go on organizing my groceries into my sacks and the guy moves back out of the way and the cashier at first impatient but later, just patiently waits, even sincerely smiles till I finish and then I go back and slide in my credit card...

Well what was funny is - NO ONE followed any yellow line - everyone had their own way of handling their shopping experience that was actually safe but everyone did things their way - a riot -

The same thing over a week later at Whole Foods - no plastic shields there - the cashiers all wore masks and no one knew what they were saying so they had to lift them so folks could see their mouth move - some customers were masked, some not - some were spraying their groceries - but there were so few in the store as compared to usual there was no issue at all with a 6 foot distance that folks were actually adhering to as they shopped - in fact back to the scenario at HEB - they were limiting folks to 50 in the stiore at a time so there was easy room for the 6 foot distance which for HEB resulted in long lines outside and even in line they did their 6 foot distance as employees had the task of distributing wet sanitized handwipes for ourselves and to wipe down the shopping cart - lots of conversation and the typical good humor and laughter being shared by those in line. A couple of grouchy ones that must be new to the area and with a lot of raised eyebrows they soon got the message to cool it and be part of the fun or be isolated from the neighbors waiting.

Once inside either store everyone made a bee line for what they need, no conversation, just shop and get out as if we were all walking on hot coals. I do remember when all this started within two or three days went to shop and never in my life - not even during Harvey- were the shelves actually bare - since, I notice those products used by most are restocked but the products that are not common, like my favorite Claussen sauerkraut or mushrooms have not been reordered.

Rosemary you gardening sound like the world is in its place - we have had nothing but rain - can count the days on my two hands that the sun has been out since all this began over 6 weeks ago now. The most gardening is the young man next door who can hardly keep up with cutting the lawn -

This morning I really had to talk to myself and convince myself I can do this - a storm swept through knocking out our electricity for hours - darkened sky and no light, could not read, cold coffee and would not dare open the refrigerator - pouring down raining - we seldom ever loose electricity from weather - periodically we loose it because the squirrels chew on the wires - we're in the older part of town where the wires run along the back of our property rather than underground. Started to get uncomfortable with the humidity so high and no AC but at least the heat is not in the upper nineties - these constant storms seem to bring a cold front dropping our temp 20 or more degrees.

Obviously the electricity is back and my AC is clearing out the humidity -  first thing I plugged in my cell since when I loose electricity I loose the landline and of course the cell was dead - the scent of a fresh pot of coffee is filling the house - just may not get much done today -

OH yes, one of my favorites Pat - Wind in the Willows - and Thereau in his cabin by the lake - and so many more... Life in the Garden by Penelope Lively, White Rose Black Forest, by Eoin Dempsey, The Testament of Harold's Wife by Lynne Hugo - nature and trees are like an additional character that changes and shows a soul - ah and we cannot forget The Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson Burnett  and even a light read mystery - Mystery at Apple Tree Cottage: by Claire Chase.
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« Reply #20903 on: April 22, 2020, 10:54:35 PM »
We haven't been shopping for over 2 weeks now, and that's our project for early tomorrow morning, so all your stories are most timely. Our store, a PigglyWiggly, has recently gone from reserving the first hour of each day for seniors to just Tuesday mornings for an hour. Not quite sure if that's because they weren't very busy that first hour or what, but Tuesday didn't work. So we'll see what tomorrow brings. We have a long list so both go in, split the list and get out quickly. I don't think they'll have plants, but if they do I think I would do what Rosemary did and just buy what's there.

Our other option for shopping is Walmart, which is way too big and too busy.

Meanwhile, I am reading Shotgun Lovesongs, which is set in the Eau Claire, Wisconsin area. It's a slow read for me, as it's my bedtime book, but I am enjoying the characters and the setting. I also am going through old photos from my mom's album of really early pictures, a lot of me because I was the first baby. It should be a simple task, just picking out the good ones, but I keep getting distracted. Tonight I found a snapshot of a couple standing next to a little oil well, the type called "donkey." I don't recognize the couple. Timewise it would be early 1950's, the land looks pretty flat, and it's certainly not Wisconsin. There are only a couple of family members around who are older than I, and I hope one of them has a story about that picture.

Nan

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« Reply #20904 on: April 23, 2020, 07:51:54 AM »
Oh my gosh Pat, how could I have forgotten The Wind in the Willows, even at 2am?!  Thanks for that, and also for your suggestions Barb.

Would anyone be up for starting some book or film related games, like we used to have? Could be a quiz, or just a word game - like that Zut one mentioned in your post (re A Gentleman in Moscow) Barb?

And Barb your power cut sounds like a nightmare, I am so glad it has been fixed. We rarely have them here, though we had a lot when we lived further out in Aberdeenshire. They were always in winter, so outside it was freezing, and small villages are always the last to be reconnected. Luckily in that house we had two massive wood stoves that heated the entire property really well, though I was hopeless at lighting them.

The packing thing in shops is not an issue here as we always have to do it ourselves - I was taken aback, when we lived in Newfoundland, to find out that I was supposed to let the staff do it for me. The only time our groceries are packed for us here is if a charity - usually a school or youth group - is doing it to try to raise funds. They are always enthusiastic but sometimes they are so bad at it that I give them some cash and say 'thanks but if you don't mind I will do my own'! Scotland brought in a charge for plastic carrier bags years ago, and it has worked very well - it's funny really that we are prepared to spend maybe £50 on groceries but then quibble at another 20p for bags, and rake around in our handbags looking for the canvas bag we thought we had brought, or else stuff things into our coat pockets. On the whole, though, people remember to bring their own - there was some talk at the beginning of the current situation that people should not be allowed to use their own bags 'in case of contamination' - I really cannot understand this, and luckily it never happened.

Some of our cashiers have big plastic screens around them now. In the pharmacy in the village the assistant is completely boxed off - you have to pay by waving your card at the card reader she holds up to 'her' side of the barrier - seems to work. But I agree, it is all SO confusing, and most of us are so worried about doing the wrong thing it makes us more likely to misunderstand. I had to collect medicines for my cat earlier this week - the vet (who is thankfully still working) keeps the front door locked, so you have to call first then wave through the window when you get there. The vet nurse brings out the package and puts it on the wall for you, and you then wave your card at her card reader, or you can pay by phone from home. I don't mind though, I'm just so glad to have one nearby.

Ginny, that guy in his stupid truck sounds AWFUL, what a complete idiot. (I don't know if you have the same words for BMW drivers as we have here - I will leave it to your imagination but it's not polite and it refers to the male anatomy....)  Even our neighbour is still revving up his car as noisily as possible in the drive, and leaving and returning at a ridiculous speed, which I find particularly irritating when so many parents are out with little children on bikes, trying to entertain them in what should be a very safe little access road. And the other day there were two cars driving along the main road, no other car in sight, rear car not prepared to wait for front car to turn off (even though it was indicating its intentions), so overtook (in cross manner of course) right on the blind bend. Although there are not so many cars around, the buses use that road and the guy was lucky not to go head on into one,

I finished Payback, which was quite good, and now I am onto Iain Maitland's The Scribbler.

Last night we watched a programme about the island of Colonsay in the Hebrides. It's one I've always wanted to visit, it's very small (about 10 miles long) and has a small population of people and a huge one of birds (and wildlife in general.) They also have a very successful little book festival. One day!

Have a good day everyone,

Rosemary

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« Reply #20905 on: April 23, 2020, 12:33:01 PM »
Rosemary, you enlivened my day yesterday.  In spare moments I would rack my brains for book titles with plants in them.  I would have thought there would be more, and most of them were lightweight.  Here's what I came up with:

Riders of the Purple Sage, Zane Gray
Catcher in the Rye, J. D. Salinger
The Black Rose, Thomas B. Costain
The Rose Rent, Ellis Peters (a Brother Cadfael mystery)
The Scarlet Pimpernel, Baroness Orczy

If you want to count mentions of green without specific plant names:
The Green Hills of Earth, Robert Heinlein (a collection of science fiction short stories)

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« Reply #20906 on: April 23, 2020, 12:39:15 PM »
Pat - I never thought of The Scarlet Pimpernel or The Catcher in the Rye!  And I’ve not heard of the other ones you mentioned, I need to look them up. I have now remembered Mary Stewart’s Rose Cottage, which I only read earlier this year.

You always were so very good at those word games when we used to play them on here.

I will try to think of another category to keep my mind occupied if i wake up in the coming night (it is already almost 6pm here).

Best wishes, Rosemary

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« Reply #20907 on: April 23, 2020, 03:32:16 PM »
Well, I have finally downloaded the app Ring Central and Zoom, and am now having visits with all my kids and grandkids.  We had our first family meeting last night, my daughter in law set it all up and sent me the link to join.  Oh my goodness, we all had so much news to share, and were so happy to be together as a family again.  We've decided it will be a weekly thing until this quarantine is over.  I set up Zoom for my hubby to join the pastoral council meeting Fr. Miller was hosting, and at first I had no clue what to expect.  Me... the computer tech/teacher who introduced our K-12 Catholic school to Apple computers back in 1984, and taught workshops for teachers at Bowling Green State University.  I guess it's like they say about riding a bike, once you learn you never forget, just get back on and go!

Wow, all your experiences in the stores sound so frightful.  We have been doing click list, so I have only been into Foodtown once which was so scary, Walgreen's twice and the Dollar Tree once since the quarantine.  I shudder at the thought of you all handling those items, I pray you are wearing masks and gloves.  I wipe every item with a Clorox wipe, before bringing them into my house.  We have a system going, my hubby puts all the bags on the patio, I have a basket I place each item in after wiping down, and then we bring them in and put them away.  If we order take out, I bring our plates out to the patio, wear my gloves, take the food out of the wrappers, place on our plates and leave all condiments in the bags and throw them away.  It may sound extreme, but it makes us feel a bit safer.  I watched a video that taught this method.

Have any of you ever watched the movie, Bird Box with Sandra Bullock?  We watched it a year or so ago, and going out to the stores reminds me of how when they would go outside they had to keep a cover over their head so they could not be exposed.  I thought this is the most crazy movie I have ever seen, and yet here we are today, needing masks and gloves to leave our house. 

PatH., good for you for staying in and letting your groceries be delivered.
Rosemary, I felt so bad for you just reading your experience in the store, and Ginny, how rude of the man in the parking lot.  Gosh, we haven't experienced that yet.  It would unsettle me as well.  Nan, I'm with you, I am not ready to go out to the big stores to purchase flowers. My neighbor has been buying flowers non stop, I was so tempted, but didn't want to go out to Meijer's, Lowe's or Menard's, too many people to deal with.  Maybe when our temps warm up, I'll venture out.  I did plant my hyacinths my kids gave me for Easter. 

Barb, I am so glad to hear your electricity is back on.  It seems like this pandemic isn't enough, we have to have more inconveniences to add to it.  My son and daughter in law were telling me how their dryer caught fire, and they had to call the fire department.  The other son said they have birds in their hot water flue pipe which can cause carbon monoxide poisoning from not having proper air flow, and our chimney cap flew off the other day and can't be fixed, had to call a chimney guy out. My Shitzu Sammy has not been able to be groomed, and after his potty walk, we realized we had a mess to deal with when we got home. I had to give it a shot at bathing and grooming him.  Gosh I tell ya, those groomers deserve every penny they charge, who knew it would be so difficult to trim around the eyes, and rear end.  Ughhh... he was really good about letting me do it, but he was not having it when I tried to do his front beard. 

Out of curiosity, is there any way any one could check on Jonathan, to make sure he is doing okay?  I've had him on my mind lately. 

Okay, need to get back to sewing, I am trying to do at least 6-12 masks a day.  It's a bit time consuming now that I am making the cloth ties.  My poor thumb and index finger are taking a beating from that steam iron, while creasing the tiny edges in. 

Stay safe & Stay healthy! 
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« Reply #20908 on: April 23, 2020, 04:37:40 PM »
Somebody sent me a very funny video about making masks which I would like to attach, but can't.  Maybe we can't attach videos or maybe I don't know how to do it to here......

I have been grocery shopping, plant shopping, to Lowes for a new microwave. (Not all in the same week!!!). I now wear a mask in the stores.  Haven't had any problems so far.  People seem to be keeping their distance from each other.

Karen, how are you doing with A Suitable Boy?   I finished it recently.  It goes in my list of favourite books of all time.  So then having thought that, I started to try to list them.....there aren't many......I could only think of 3 more..
 Such a good story and so very well written.  I'm thinking to read it again soon.  I like a good long story.

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« Reply #20909 on: April 23, 2020, 05:52:46 PM »
End the suspense, Dana, what are the three more?

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« Reply #20910 on: April 23, 2020, 09:18:44 PM »
oh well I've read them all many times but I don't think they'd make any top ten list except mine!
 Masters of Rome series by Colleen McCullough (that's 7 books, or let's just call them volumes of one seamless story).  In many ways she's not a good writer but her knowledge of that period of history, political, military, social, is amazing.I once read that before she got down to writing she spent years making a time line of all the events. She certainly read all the ancient sources that I have read in the course of checking up on her facts over the years.  These books got me back into Latin.

10 detective stories by Maj Sjowal and Per Wahloo.   I love detective stories and IMO these are the best of their kind.  Martin Beck is the main cop......, but Gunvald Larssen is my favorite. (I like the author Henning Mankell too, but these are better.)They take you back to the feeling of the 60s.  Unfortunately Per Wahloo died and the series ended. The plots are not nasty, no gratuitous violence and the character development is great.

The Lord of the Rings.   Haven't read them for a while but I expect I still like them.(The movies are horrible,travesties, they just concentrate on battles and the baddies.
 Maybe that's all they could do.  The books paint a picture of a lovely cozy perfect world which has to be saved and is very pleasant to escape into..)

A Suitable Boy.  Definitely up there....! It's got plot, characterization, history, social comment (about India so a new experience) and great writing too.

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« Reply #20911 on: April 24, 2020, 08:15:25 AM »
Dana Had to look up the McCullough Roman series - never have heard of the books - looks like an absorbing series of books - I only knew of her Thorn Birds - and yes, I agree the movies were a disappointment - the depicting of the wars were so violent to me they lost the ability to see what was inside ourselves which when I read the series that was the message to me - they were an allegory to our spiritual nature.

I have to share - an aside - it is not often I see the sun coming over the horizon - but today I had my coffee and was about to step out on the front porch but instead looked out the front window - I do not know if the sun rise is the same all over but oh oh oh - the sky was an orangy red to yellow and then light blue to darker blue when all of a sudden the crescent shape of bright bright light came and in less then a minute it was three quarters up but so blinding you could hardly look at it - the red intensity of light reminded me of photos and movies I've seen of a steel mill furnace - a huge ball of such intense fire - I quick got out on the driveway and looking away towards the house, all the windows were like red hot coals - what was just as amazing was the west side of the house, the shade was almost purple as if the bricks on the house were holding tightly to the night - the most amazing sight - Now that I am inside on the computer the sun shinning through the window onto the wall has turned from red to a deep yellow but you still cannot look at the round disk that is climbing higher into the sky. It is so bright it has washed all the blue out of the sky so that it is almost white - just awesome - looks like we are getting a sunshinny day today - tra la...
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« Reply #20912 on: April 24, 2020, 09:59:02 AM »
Dana, The Lord own the Rings is certainly on my top ten list.  I reread it every few years--have lost count by now.  Come to think of it, it's about time to do it again, but my paperbacks fell apart last time.  I'll have to get a new set.

You're right about the movies, they flattened out all the subtlety and the point of things, and even added battles--guess it wasn't bloody enough for them.  One thing they did well, though was the battle between Gandalf and the Balrog, and what happened afterward.  I would not have thought it possible to make visual sense of that, but they did.

I never heard of the McCullough series, but it sounds like just what I want in historical novels.  Good ones give you a better feel for an era than anything else, but I want them to stick to the real facts.  Any changes or additions must be either obvious or unimportant.  She evidently not only respects the facts, but glories in them.  Do you recommend reading them in order, or is there a middle one one should start with?

I've only read one of the Sjowall-Wahloo series, but I enjoyed it.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #20913 on: April 24, 2020, 10:02:10 AM »
Barb, I envy you your sunrise.  That can light up a whole day.  Here the sky is grey, and gently dripping a sort of rain.

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« Reply #20914 on: April 24, 2020, 11:03:35 AM »
It's a good thing ZOOM is so easy, as it appears I am  going to be doing 4 formerly face to face classes in it in September, hopefully it won't be long before we can take our seats again in the real classroom.

I've finished The Mirror and the Light and I agree with those calling it a masterpiece. It is.


 Kind of like War and Peace in a way, the Mantel  trilogy is.  You really can't describe it. Or I can't, anyway. There is violence and there are other distasteful things, so those wanting to avoid that, can.

I will be very surprised if it doesn't win everything out there; there's nothing else like it.

Still reading Barbara's recommendation of  a delightful Ex Pat tale of life in Spain but am starting Little Fires Everywhere because I've heard so much about it, have any of you read it?

I loved The Thorn Birds,  I think McCullough in that book was wonderful.

Rosemary, you are always such a hoot! I don't know if you have the same words for BMW drivers as we have here -   You are talking to a resident of  one of the BMW capitals of the world! We have one of their factories as big as a city here, their Inland Port Terminal alone is worth a drive to see,  and every other car on the road IS a BMW because the workers get a huge discount to have one, it's good publicity.

I don't like the car.  I don't care for the way they look on the outside, but I can't deny they are pretty inside. Why do people call BMW drivers that where you live?

hahaha Your posts always make me laugh, which is a great thing in today's world.

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« Reply #20915 on: April 24, 2020, 11:05:24 AM »
Nlhome, what a fascinating post that was!  How did your trip to the grocery turn out? I have to go today and it's getting worse every time I go.

I was very struck by this:  Tonight I found a snapshot of a couple standing next to a little oil well, the type called "donkey." I don't recognize the couple. Timewise it would be early 1950's, the land looks pretty flat, and it's certainly not Wisconsin. There are only a couple of family members around who are older than I, and I hope one of them has a story about that picture.


Aren't those old unlabelled pictures poignant? I hope you find out who they are, let us know? My DIL who seems to have more sense than I do, when my late MIL was alive, she died recently at 98, copied a lot of the old photos in her albums and got her to say who they were, so we and my grandson will know in the future.

I went once to Tryon NC,  not far from here, to an auction of the  estate of a famous writer. I went for the books but found none I wanted but there were BOXES and BOXES of photos, old photos, people standing next to water wells and cars, things that they felt important (you need water  to homestead, I've read that's why so many were photographed next to a well) and not the first label on them.  And they weren't all humble. There were beautiful people in some of them, elegant surroundings, nothing to say who they were. They were important to somebody, some of the photos were obviously professional.  Who were they?

I wonder happened to those photos. In a way, they are a legacy, aren't they, a record,  and if nobody knows any more who they are, that  dies, too, in a way.

I felt that was very sad. I hope you find out who they are in yours.







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Re: The Library
« Reply #20916 on: April 24, 2020, 03:30:52 PM »
Thank you for your concern, Bellamarie. I'm alive and well, hunkered down in a houseful of books, getting out once or twice a week for groceries. I feel targeted at my age; but not at all concerned. If that guy in Oregon survived it at 104, so can I. Stay happy. It keeps one immune to many evils. Your well-being in heaven is a sure thing with all the good work your doing. The proof of that can also be seen in your beautiful roses. Congratulations!

Barb, I loved your 'aside'. You're much too modest. I see that as an ode to sunrise. I see now, what I'm missing as a late sleeper.

I'm reading Mutual Contempt, by Jeff Shesol. Lyndon Johnson, Robert Kennedy, and the Feud that Defined a Decade. I'm on a fifties and sixties kick, with several other books lined up.

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« Reply #20917 on: April 24, 2020, 03:41:20 PM »
It's important to read the Rome series in order, Pat, because they go chronologically from about 110BC to about 27BC.  The first one (The First Man in Rome) is about Gaius Marius and his marriage into the Caesars, and they end with the death of Antony and rise of Octavian.  So you've got the last years of the republic and what a time it was....if it was a novel, as they say, you wouldn't believe it!

I had to buy a new set of The Lord of the Rings too!!!

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« Reply #20918 on: April 25, 2020, 06:43:51 AM »
Good morning everyone.

I am reading the Cloud of Sparrows by Takashi Matsuoka. It is an historical drama set in the second half of the 1800s in Japan. It begins five years after Commodore Perry opened up Japan to trade, etc. and the Samurai/Warlord system is starting to crumble in the face of Western ideas and weaponry. This story revolves around a particular Warlord and several missionaries. Most of the characters are moderately likeable; none stand out more than others. Several of the American missionaries are using the mission to escape bad situations back in America rather than for any real religious fervor. The young warlord is from a long line of prophets, but which sound more like mental illness (schizophrenia?) to me. It is holding my attention.

I am also am reading The Red Planet by William John Locke. No, it is not Scifi, it is, in fact, an historical novel. Set in a village during WWI, it follows a disabled vet of the Boer Wars. He is something of a busybody, very opinionated (especially when it comes to one's duty to the country and in giving advice). There is also something of a mystery evolving regarding a young woman who supposedly drowned accidentally several years prior to the beginning of the narrative. I am very much enjoying this one.

Lastly, since I already am into these two, I put on hold my reading of Space Vikings by H. Beam Piper until I finish one of the above.

The First Man in Rome is now on my library wish list. When I looked the book up on Amazon, the reading sample showed some of the most detailed maps I have seen, complete with indexes.

I hope to get out into the backyard some this afternoon to mow and, perhaps, a little yard cleanup. The pines outdid themselves with all the wet weather last year and produced an overabundance of pine cones.



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Re: The Library
« Reply #20919 on: April 25, 2020, 08:01:11 AM »
Frybabe, you always have the MOST interesting sounding books!

I've just finished the Chickens, Mules, and Two Old Fools first book and  smiled all the way through it and you were right, Barbara: the photos!!  Golly moses, she looks nothing like I had envisioned her, did she to you? I am not sure what I thought they looked like but she is not only very attractive but looks like a pistol to me.  Enjoyed the entire book and appreciate the recommendation, what a hoot her life was so far.

The masks thing here is,  for some people who do know how to sew, which I don't, a wonderful thing to do, Bellamarie and Pat, and anybody else here making them.  (I know many of the Latin students are) , and I know you don't have to sew to make them, either. But I've just learned that some of  those who ARE sewing them in this area  have turned their talent and generosity into a cottage industry. And good for them.
 I  recall that Queen Elizabeth said in her recent speech on the coronavirus pandemic that we will look back and remember what we did to help in this crisis and I love that sentiment.  While we all can't sew, we can all do something, no matter how small,  to help.  Look at the 99 year old man who raised millions, he's now got a special postal stamp to commemorate his 100th birthday! More power to him and his creativity and long productive life!

I like to think that we here are helping somewhat, as well, I may be wrong about that, but that's the spirit and purpose we started with in 2004 here, to bring opportunities to  people regardless of their geographic location,  for Latin classes they would not have had otherwise, and book discussions with cordial intelligent people, a community they would never have met otherwise.  And to share our lives online and support each other in times of trial.

  I think it's nice to pause and reflect sometimes that we have, over the years, made a huge difference in the real world, too. Think alone of the Prison Library Project, over 7,000 books delivered to prisons in 3 states. Think of the Book Exchange we did, hundreds of books exchanged for the postage for years. Think of all the Gatherings attended and authors met. Our history is nothing to sneeze at and we're not through yet. And don't forget the something like 170+ people who have been able to excel at Latin enough to win an International Award in the National (13 countries) Latin Exam. All of these things are things that couldn't have been done on our own or alone.

  I think and hope that's what we're still  doing now,  still making a difference and will in future. So here's to us!

We won't all agree, and obviously our tastes are different,  but vive la différence!  There's room for everybody.  It's interesting to me to hear stories from everywhere about how people are dealing with this true crisis. (And it's interesting and helpful to me  to hear how being Stir Crazy affects our interests and  pursuits, too.  I have become a fanatic on a particular type of solitaire I have not played in probably 20 years). It took me quite a while to understand the rules of the game (why can't they tell you the RULES, for Pete's sake),  and then to realize the score I was trying to beat (and kept saying nobody ever made that score) I had done myself, and I don't know how because they won't TELL me the rules of the GAME! duh.    hahahaha

Well am finally off to the grocery. To view the endless empty shelves.