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Re: The Library
« Reply #21200 on: June 16, 2020, 03:22:31 PM »

The Library


Our library  is open 24/7; the welcome mat is always out.
Do come in from daily chores and spend some time with us.



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Re: The Library
« Reply #21201 on: June 16, 2020, 03:23:14 PM »
oowww Bellamarie wouldn't you like to share the poem with us on our Poetry pages...
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Re: The Library
« Reply #21202 on: June 16, 2020, 05:57:01 PM »
Thank you, Rosemary. 

I've been following some situations in the publishing world that centered on authors attacking, usually just verbally, anyone who would dare to note grammatical errors, typos, and/or what I'd call "lost threads."   That is in addition to what seems to be more plagiarism than before. 

Perhaps it is the rise in self-publishing that has produced the sloppy manuscripts and the copying of others' works.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #21203 on: June 16, 2020, 08:05:17 PM »
Thank you Barb, I never thought to post it here in the Poetry section.  Done!
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Re: The Library
« Reply #21204 on: June 16, 2020, 10:04:14 PM »
Rosemary, I don't remember that book, A Cotswold Ordeal, as being particularly good. It was a comfortable read at the time, didn't require a lot of thought or paying attention to the plot. I was thinking I should read another to see if the series improved with familiarity. However, finding a big crime at every house sitting job seems a bit unlikely.

Right now I am reading The Spies of Shilling Lane, by Jennifer Ryan. It's a fun book to read on a summer day.

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« Reply #21205 on: June 17, 2020, 07:51:42 AM »
Jane, I have to agree with you about the self-publishing. I think many of the newbie writers do not have or use resources available to them perhaps because of the cost. One of the first things I learned in, of all things, business writing, is that you do not proof your own work. I think mostly, though, they rely on friends and others not trained in how to proofread which is definitely different from general reading and reviewing. Proofreaders, editors and agents all cost.  Spellchecker and autocorrect are not always your friend, neither are friends and relatives who aren't any better with grammar or who don't want to hurt the writer's feelings. I have read some books with good storylines and plots, but were poorly executed. What I just discovered is that there are programs available to writers that will generate storylines and plots. I do not know anything about them. I guess they can be of help, but I suspect they can also be a crutch for those don't really have any good ideas of their own.

Having said all that I need to give a nod to the writers who do listen to their readers even if they don't always agree with them, and to those do actually spend the time to research their background material.

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« Reply #21206 on: June 17, 2020, 08:36:24 AM »
Do you remember the very interesting discussion we got into a few years ago about Mary Hallock Foote? She wrote and illustrated stories and articles about the West while she followed her husband around the mining towns, etc. One of the people mentioned was Baby Doe Taylor and the Leadville, CO. mines. I just ran across a biography of Baby Doe in Project Gutenberg. http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/52398

Every time I finish a book, I seem to find more to add to my list.  :o  ::)  ;D

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« Reply #21207 on: June 17, 2020, 10:08:48 AM »
Frybabe...I agree totally with your view of authors who are putting out manuscripts that wouldn't pass muster with an 8th grade English teacher.  I'm appalled that they expect readers to pay for works that are full of basic grammatical errors, misuse of words, and typos. 

I do appreciate it when a reviewer notes these "problems" as it saves me time and money.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #21208 on: June 17, 2020, 01:13:06 PM »
I agree, there are publishers putting out manuscripts that are poorly edited, with incorrect grammar, misuse of words and typos.  Also, many self published books are not well edited, and would not pass a professional editor/publisher's criteria.  And I might add...there are some well known/reputable publishers willing to publish books on content they deem relevant or salacious, even though the writer has not met the basic criteria of whether it be considered a non fiction genre.  For example, I read a book last year with this book club called Educated by Tara Westover.  In my opinion, and tons of others who read the book, and took the time to post reviews, she did not meet the criteria of it being listed as non fiction.  So many parts of the book were at best a "vague recollection" (her words not mine), of what she said other family members felt, or what she imagined they were thinking or feeling.  When family members were interviewed, they resoundly objected to Tara speaking, thinking and feeling for them. I could not begin to express my frustration with that book, so many discrepancies throughout the book by her own words.  I still get frustrated, just thinking about it.  And yet Penguin Random House, published the book as non fiction.

Another point I'd like to add, is there are publishers out there who advertise to get your book, have you invest thousands of dollars up front, by having you contract with them to buy a certain number of your books, to self promote, and then leave you high and dry, once they have gotten your money.  I have a friend who had this happen to her.  In investigating, and hiring a lawyer, she found out there were thousands of people this publisher did this to.  They file bankruptcy, or just close up shop, and begin again under a new name. She had to pay for a lawyer to get her book back into her own possession, this took months, and was very costly.

You have to be very careful deciding to publish a book, it is not like it used to be, when you could depend on reputable publishing companies.  Even those so called reputable, are out to make a killing, and publish what they see as salacious, especially if it has anything to do with politics or famous people.  The DOJ is presently trying to stop the release of In the Room Where It Happened: A White House Memoir, by John Bolton, through the publishers, Simon and Schuster, due to national security issues.  The publishers have not been named in the law suit, so they don't seem to care if releasing this book, could endanger our country's national security, they see it resulting in bigger sales for them.

Then there is the controversy over the publishing of the book Go Set A Watchman by Harper Lee, published by Harper Collins, and William Heinemann.  I have read that the family friend/lawyer gave the book to the publishers without Harper Lee's knowledge or permission, after her sister Alice died, and Harper was in a elder care facility, in failing health.

In both of these incidences, I personally feel, the people closest to the President and Harper Lee, who had their trust and confidence, have taken advantage of their position and chose to profit from it.  Publishers really don't care what the legal situation is in the dispute, they just know the more the controversy, the better the possible sales, which makes them all the more wealthier.  I suppose the word reputable, no longer has any meaning, it's the same with newspapers and news outlets, media in general, anything for ratings and wealth. The rules and reputation are no longer important.

With social media, and ebooks, just about anyone can self publish, and promote their books today.  They may not be as polished, with perfect grammar, correct spelling, etc., but then again, some publishers are no longer either.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #21209 on: June 17, 2020, 01:59:58 PM »
hmm see what the result is of an educational system that promotes everyone is a winner and here is a prize for trying...
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« Reply #21210 on: June 17, 2020, 05:21:24 PM »
My thoughts on the book Educated:   I believe that Educated by Tara Westover is classified as a Memoir. The definition of Memoir according to  Webster's Dictionary is "a narrative composed from personal experience." If that personal experience includes not remembering something, it includes not remembering something or making honest attempts to account for it. It's not history.

Here is the highest rated positive review by an eye witness not involved with the family about the veracity of the book and those who would challenge it:

Drew Mecham

5.0 out of 5 stars Overcoming the gaslighting


Reviewed in the United States on April 8, 2018


"In the interest of full disclosure, I'm the Drew from this book, and although Tara and I are no longer together I’ve met all of the key figures in this book on many occasions. Although I don’t have as intimate a knowledge of growing up in the Westover family as a sibling would, I observed first hand everything Tara describes in the third part of the book and heard many stories about earlier events, not just from Tara, but from siblings, cousins, and her parents themselves. I find the claims of factual inaccuracy that have come up among these reviews to be strange for two reasons. First, in a post-James Frey (“A Million Little Pieces”) world, publishers are incredibly careful with memoirs and “Educated” was extensively fact checked before publication. Second, no one claiming factual inaccuracy can do so with any precision. While every Westover sibling, as well as their neighbors and friends, will have different perspectives and different memories, it is very difficult to dispute the core facts of this book. “Educated” is about abuse, and the way in which both abusers and their enablers distort reality for the victims. It’s about the importance of gaining your own understanding of the world so you’re not dependent on the narratives imposed on you by others. I’ve heard Tara’s parents attack schools and universities, doctors and modern medicine, but more importantly, I’ve seen her parents work tirelessly to create a world where Shawn’s abuse was minimized or denied outright. I’ve seen them try to create a world where Tara was insane or possessed in order to protect a violent and unstable brother. I was with her in Cambridge when Shawn was calling with death threats, then saw her mother completely trivialize the experience. For Tara’s parents, allegiance to the family is paramount, and allegiance to the family requires you to accept her father’s view of the world, where violence is acceptable and asking for change is a crime. "



It is my understanding that memory is subjective.  Ten  people can witness an accident and all ten  will have different accounts and some will not remember details. That does not mean the accident did not happen.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #21211 on: June 17, 2020, 10:01:02 PM »
Ginny, With all due respect, I only used that book as an example, in my personal opinion.  I did not intend to reopen that can of worms.

Barb, you made me giggle with,

"hmm see what the result is of an educational system that promotes everyone is a winner and here is a prize for trying... 

That's another can of worms, I wouldn't want to open.   :-X

I have a friend who wrote a book, submitted it to the publishing company, and they sent it back telling him it needed much editing.  He was going to attempt to edit it himself, and I suggested he hire an editor to do it for him, since he may not be qualified to edit.  I mean is it a stretch to think if he didn't edit it well enough the first time, would he be able to edit it a second time.  I say, leave the editing to the professionals.  Rosemary, I admire your abilities to edit books.   

My hubby and I spent the day making a new bird feeder for the Baltimore Orioles I have finally attracted to our backyard.  I am anxious to see if they will choose to eat from it, rather than the old small hanging dish above it.  My neighbor suggested I remove the old one completely, so they will use the new one, but I am concerned if I do they may stop coming.  Not sure what to do.  I may give it a few days to see if they will use the new one as well.  What do you all think? I recently saw a new set of birds in my Rose of Sharon bush.  Can anyone help me out with naming them? 





 

 
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Re: The Library
« Reply #21212 on: June 18, 2020, 07:14:12 AM »
Bellamarie, you make some good points. Sorry, don't recognize the birds. Pretty pale color though. Maybe these are first year birds that haven't molted to their adult colors yet?

Barb, spot-on. My thoughts exactly. And didn't we see that coming years ago?

One of the things I learned while working at Rodale Institute was that the first jobs to get sacked in book/magazine sales downturns are the fact-checkers and research assistants. I guess that works for trying to keep costs down what with rising costs regardless of whether there is a recession or not.



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« Reply #21213 on: June 18, 2020, 09:19:23 AM »
Now for something different, a sewing book from 1913 which is written for girls. Mary Frances Sewing Book, Or Adventures Among the Thimble by Jane Eayer Fryer.  People  http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/58937 Fun to look through.

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« Reply #21214 on: June 18, 2020, 09:56:19 AM »
JoanK, I meant to say way back there that I did read the description of the prehistoric lovers. I think my favorite of the items is the Lewis Chessmen and I loved the description of them. Mary Beard has put in her blog as new Trustee of the British Museum  the 5 items in the British Museum which have influenced her the most: https://blog.britishmuseum.org/mary-beards-top-five-objects/

I don't know what a Trustee of the British Museum does, but I hope she shakes it up as much as Thomas Hoving did the Met in NYC.

I did think that the selection of the 100 objects were odd, and the Roman entire period pretty much omitted, although represented by a deliberately chosen objectionable subject cup.  I am glad she is on the board.  I am a total fan; I know some people think she goes too far.   She really has done a  lot for classics. I hate to see her retire. Maybe in her new role she will continue to make waves.

Thank you for introducing that interesting subject!

The British Museum has a feature called Curator's Corner in which various curators explain things about the areas they love. I love the one on the torc, and how the ancient British Celts managed to even  get them on their heads, some of their  solutions are  ingenious. I love anything with Irving Finkle in it, whether he's teaching cuneiform on the steps of the British Museum or lecturing.



I came in to say, however,  that I haven't been reading anything at all except Caesar's Civil Wars and some of the new commentaries on it,  exciting as that is, but nothing in the fiction department. But, having finished the last Joan Hickson Miss Marple, and being in withdrawal,  I started Christie's compendium of all Miss Marple stories, and it's got me reading to escape again, for which I am very grateful.

I've read and have all of Christie's books, but I don't recall one of these stories, and in just a few pages, before you can even settle down, she's presented a mystery and solved it,  and the first two I had no earthly idea who did it or how. None.  The premise  is a group including her nephew the author Raymond West,  has gathered in Miss Marple's house on an evening and the talk turns to  meeting each week, and each person posing a mystery in real life which he or she knows the solution to for the others to try to solve. Of course they pretty much ignore Miss Marple, until they get stuck and can't agree on the solution and then she solves it. I mean we're talking very clever problems. What an absolutely brilliant woman Christie was, what writing!!!

I must admit it took me two starts to get into it because  unlike our novels now, it doesn't start with a bang, a death, or some shocking thing, but we're talking a puzzle solved in very few pages so even my short little attention span recently can enjoy it.

After the first one I thought I must pay more attention to the details in the 2nd, but missed the solution of it, too,  entirely. And of course it makes perfect sense.

On to the third, how lovely, how truly lovely it is to be reading again.


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Re: The Library
« Reply #21215 on: June 18, 2020, 02:30:14 PM »
Frybabe - just noticed that you can now download from Gutenberg onto your kindle - lovely - just downloaded the Mary Frances Sewing Book

Never heard of a Guimpe as part of a wardrobe -

What a delightful way to teach sewing - when we were all less crisp and scientific - give me the facts and nothing but the facts - when storytelling was part of our way - We so forgot that all the current encouragement in the world to live a charming and caring life goes over our heads with things like bare bone simplicity and living with only 7 of everything from books to the number of Tshirts - Back when the frivolity was not only accepted but so usual we assume it was part of life and when Anthropomorphism, although we did not know the word, was usual and not just reserved for a Walt Disney movie.

Needless to say I loved the little book but knew right off no child today would put up with learning anything in the manner of this story.
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« Reply #21216 on: June 18, 2020, 03:52:58 PM »
With all the talk of travel has anyone ever had the chance to visit Teatro La Fenice in Vienna.
Here is a photo - isn't this glorious to hear and see opera, symphonies and ballet and any classical music venue.




Unless you are a member I am not sure you will be able to see any of this - it was the 2009 annual New Years Concert in Teatro La Fenice

https://www.medici.tv/en/concerts/new-years-concert-teatro-la-fenice-georges-pretre-mariella-devia-massimiliano-pisapia/?utm_source=medicitv&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=EDITO_NL552_18062020_EN&cm_ven=ExactTarget&cm_cat=Edito+-+NL552_+Salles+italiennes+(Abo+EN)+18062020&cm_pla=VPL+11553+for+List+37&cm_ite=the+2009+edition+with+the+great+Georges+Pr%c3%aatre
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« Reply #21217 on: June 19, 2020, 08:36:31 AM »
Just saw that Carlos Ruiz Zafón, author of Shadow of the Wind, etc. has passed away. He was 55. While the cause of death was not noted, he was diagnosed with colon cancer two years ago.

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« Reply #21218 on: June 19, 2020, 09:20:07 AM »
Frybabe, yes those birds are a very pretty pale color, I'll have to try to find them at the Audobon Society page.  I see something similar called an Artic Warbler. 

So my hubby and I decided to build a feeder for our Baltimore Oriole, that has been coming to eat the jelly I put out.  We just used scrap wood we had in the garage. Took about 3 hours from start to finish.  The female Oriole came to the feeder, checked it out a few times, and finally she went inside and ate the jelly!  I had to take the old small jelly holder down, before she would go inside the new feeder.  We need to get some water proof stain for the roof.
Here is a pic of her checking it out.



Here she is finally eating from it.

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« Reply #21219 on: June 19, 2020, 09:48:31 AM »
I couldn't identify the mystery bird either.  How big is it?  Sparrow size?

Thanks for the Baltimore Oriole pictures.  It's my state bird, and I've never seen one.  Probably won't now; with warming it's now rare in Maryland.

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« Reply #21220 on: June 19, 2020, 11:19:04 AM »
Rosemary, I enjoyed your description of book reviewing.  It looks like you've found the sweet spot, where you aren't unnecessarily mean to the writers, but still carry out one of the main functions of a reviewer--telling their audience whether they want to read the book.

An interesting example of successful editing help from amateurs is Andy Weir's The Martian.  As he wrote it, he put it online, and a crowd of science geeks criticized it, suggesting changes, improving the physics (the book has a lot of physics) etc. Weir polished and changed, and finally put the finished work out online as a free ebook, then on Amazon as a 99 cent ebook.  It didn't get published on paper until it had sold so many copies you'd think the whole potential audience would have read it, but it was a best seller, and was promptly made into a very good movie.

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« Reply #21221 on: June 19, 2020, 03:02:01 PM »
PatH., Yes, those two birds are about the size of a sparrow.  I was looking at the bird sites, and as best I can decide, they could be in the Warbler family.  I am so hoping the male Baltimore Oriole will show up in time.  The female comes every day, I'm guessing she has a nest nearby.

I recently purchased a "beach" book from a new author named Kay Correll, online for my ipad, just a couple days ago she posted:

Exciting news to share! My new release, Four Short Weeks, hit the USA Today best-seller list! First time hitting the list! I'm so excited. I couldn't have made it without all your support! Thank you SO much. I have the best. readers. ever. 💕

There's a lot of success with ebooks!!
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« Reply #21222 on: June 19, 2020, 08:16:32 PM »
Ginnny, thanks for that column from Mary Beard.As usual, she makes you think. I'll watch for her chessmen.

Have to look for your bird, Barb. I'll let you know if I find it.

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« Reply #21223 on: June 19, 2020, 09:05:59 PM »
BARB Merlin,Cornell lab,s bird id program,suggests female summer tanagers. Are they the size of your Orioles or smaller? Immature goldfinch (smaller) might look like that.

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« Reply #21224 on: June 19, 2020, 09:28:49 PM »
On second thought, I think  goldfinch breed later. Try summer tanager. Merlin says they vary in color from
pale to brighter.

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« Reply #21225 on: June 20, 2020, 05:44:49 AM »
I have to agree with JoanK after looking up Summer Tanager. Tennessee has a good article about them including a location map and several pix of a young tanager. Young birds look similar to the females for the first year, not getting their adult coloring until year two.  https://www.tn.gov/twra/wildlife/birds/forest-birds/summer-tanager.html

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« Reply #21226 on: June 20, 2020, 01:15:01 PM »
JoanK. and Frybabe,  The light birds are more the size of a sparrow, and I do think they are young birds who have not yet gotten their adult color.  I just can't figure out what they are. I downloaded the Merlin Cornell app to search and that didn't help much.  Thanks for your help.
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« Reply #21227 on: June 20, 2020, 08:20:42 PM »
I checked. I was wrong about goldfinch breeding. The would be raising their second brood about now. Try immature goldfinch if the tanager is too big.

No Merlin doesn't look that good.My first time trying it. But some of its suggestions were good.

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« Reply #21228 on: June 21, 2020, 11:53:56 AM »
We just have to hope they start getting their adult coloring soon and solve the problem.  It's been fun trying, though.  I love that sort of puzzle.

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« Reply #21229 on: June 21, 2020, 01:44:55 PM »
Ginny, I never answered your question about Portland's Rose Test Garden.  Yes, I've visited it.  It's just downhill from the Japanese Garden, and if it doesn't quite have every rose known to mankind, it sure looks like it does.  There are lots of experimental new varieties too.  Extremely worth visiting.  Alas, the June Rose Festival had to be cancelled this year.

It and the Japanese Garden are in Washington Park, a huge wooded hillside which also contains a fine zoo, a children's museum, a forestry center, an arboretum, some playgrounds, and probably something else I've forgotten.

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« Reply #21230 on: June 23, 2020, 07:50:30 PM »
Been living like I am in prison - decided a year ago to stop watching the News on TV - and then it was only the programs on PBS - well now for two weeks no Shakespeare and Hathaway on Monday night- instead all these local groups talking about Black Lives and their version of the day's news - on the other PBS channel is all repeats of shows about British Royalty from the story of their servants to Balmoral castle, the grounds around Windsor, history of Selfridges - on and on - wish they had included some archeological digs that took place on the British Isles but no, that is hoping for too much.

And then with all the defacing and toppling of statues and anarchy in the streets decided enough with facebook - all it was doing was getting me riled up and upset over seeing what others were doing and shouting.

So I am down to watching PBS on Wednesday for all they mysteries, Thursday for Midsummer and Father Brown, then skip to Saturday and Sunday where A Place to call Home and other shows and on Sunday Masterpiece theater holds sway.

I'm in too much of a pout to actually enjoy my reading - I am not only tired of this but realize it wlll be this way till election and then it struck me it may be the way of things - I am deflated seeing what is going on and now even St. Patrick's in NYC has been ransacked. What is incomprehensible is how mayors are allowing this vandalism to continue and jails are not packed - it took a shooting exchange with one dead to close down the police free zone in Seattle - by hook or by crook it seems there are forces that want the US to experience Civil War however, it appears they have miscalculated the average person, black, brown, yellow or white who are staying home.

So many are into learning all they can about Du Bois through his writings which to me in only one side of the story because as even Martin Luther King Jr became aware the experience facing Blacks is different in the North and the South - and so in light of all the current issues, that have been apprehended unfortunately by other nefarious interests, I'm not hearing anyone talking about Booker T, who did start a very successful Black University and who had a different perspective from Du Bois.  Decided to order Booker T. Washington and W. E. B. Du Bois: The Civil Rights Icons Who Became Bitter Rivals  Many today are attempting to synthesize the black experience into one narrative and granted, as a while person I can only observe however, having lived both in the North and the South I saw a difference - not one better than the other but for sure different.     
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« Reply #21231 on: June 24, 2020, 10:23:21 AM »
Interesting thought...

“Every reader, as he reads, is actually the reader of himself.
The writer’s work is only a kind of optical instrument he provides the reader so
he can discern what he might never have seen in himself without this book.
The reader’s recognition in himself of what the book says is the proof of the book’s truth.”

— Marcel Proust
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Re: The Library
« Reply #21232 on: June 24, 2020, 10:57:47 AM »
Personally, I'm enjoying this shut down very much. :) I read a blog by Mary Beard the other day who said the same thing. I appreciate (of course she is busier than any other human but I'm older) her saying it, too. She says she's getting used to it, not having to dress up and rush out every day and she's enjoying it.

I am, too. I think perhaps I was a bit overextended. Nice to slow down.

Barbara, I have found the BEST stuff to watch! Come over to the Movies section so I won't duplicate it, but you would not believe what's out there....although I sympathize with the Shakespeare withdrawal, but it's on Britbox/  Amazon the first two series (I'm now re watching both and the new Father Brown as well)  and I'm in high hopes for the 3rd Shakespeare (and the 2nd)  coming to PBS next month.



Pat, someday I hope to visit the Portland Rose Garden, although to be honest, the overpasses in Portland pretty much did me in the last time I was there. I'll do something else transportation wise if I come again.  For many years they were THE test gardens for roses, but we now have some here as well. A little more our climate zone, too.



Bellamarie, what wonderful news of a Baltimore Oriole in your  yard. We don't have them here, and I think they are gorgeous!



I am so glad to be back to  reading, and look forward to my little sojourns in the afternoons. Of course reading is so subjective. Still it's an escape... from THE ROOM which I simply must clean out once and for all....it sits there waiting for me like a  malevolent presence. I fear some day the door will burst and drown me in all the things I Cant Bear To Throw Away, which Will Be Useful Someday.  And it's an escape from Windows 10 which has destroyed all my former PowerPoints images and Word images, apparently there IS a fix for that.A tiresome time consuming fix.  What a screwed up mess  Windows 10 is, just like my computer guy said. It's no wonder they recommend you buy an entire new computer for it. However their technical support IS wonderful.

Thank God Thunderbird is back at last, I can't stand OUTLOOK.




 Reading is so subjective, isn't it? I'm still reading the short stories of Miss Marple, one a day to stretch them out. Pure pleasure...so far I've solved one before she does, out of...I blush to say.....how many. Then I am reading along in Bill Bryson's Neither Here Nor There, we're in Switzerland now. If I can't travel in real life, I'll do it vicariously.

(THANK you,  Virgin Atlantic,  for holding my ticket which I rebooked for July 26,  in limbo and not charging me to rebook through 2022!!!) 

  I laughed so at his description of his step climbing in Capri I actually cried. How funny he is, and how true to life as well.  I'm back reading the Tracy Borman Cromwell, she writes SO well that you are astounded at how many pages you have read: seems as if you just picked up the book. I'll be reading more of her  Tudor histories. Then finally at night I am reading Hannibal by Patrick Hunt, this in aid of a Fall course.  He's the professor at Stanford  who has spent almost his entire life trying to find Hannibal's route through the Alps. It's an excellent readable account.

But if you like British programming, come on down to the Movies section, I have discovered a gold mine.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #21233 on: June 24, 2020, 11:37:22 AM »
You too with Mary Beard - I Loved her quote “In one man there are many men” - takes awhile to not just know but to understand and then still more time to accept - so many today act betrayed if someone is not perfect and of course to their idea of perfect.

Ginny do you subscribe - I haven't but like to read her blog.

One of her latest articles she mentioned Dervla Murphy - have you read her book - actually two books describing the trip till she gets if I remember to the eastern edge of Germany and the second book into Syria and on to India - she was one author I planned on writing but never could find an address and did not want to simply write in care of the publisher. Loved reading about her adventure. 

MY reasoning on having escape time with TV is I cannot view any of the online movies on my TV - I need to sit in a chair that yes, I have put a few cushions on the chair for comfort, and watch from my computer but it is not like sprawling out on the sofa watching my new big screen TV.

A couple of months ago Paul and Sally visited carrying in this huge box and set up this large TV. I refused all the mechanical devises to turn my old console TV into what is required and so I had been watching from a chair in my bedroom where I had a new 19 inch TV - adequate since I only watch TV at night - this new one is wonderful - it is probably a 50 inch and sits ontop of the old console that I had not gotten around to pulling out the old TV, adding a shelf and using it to display my large soup tureens - now I will still remove the old TV and put in a shelf to hold the VCR so I can watch my tapes on this new TV. Anyhow my communication with the outside world gets reduced and reduced for my own sanity - 

I do have two computers - one that is 10 and the other older still running on, is it 8 - so much more comfortable with the old version and no problems so far - I do run a couple of clean outs, Glary being one of them, just about every night - and where there were bunches and bunches of my stuff brought over to 10 last winter I now have so much more on this old computer - I wish what I develop in word would transfer but it does not without become all convoluted. And so that is days of transfer because they are now saying they are going to cut off and disconnect the old 7 and 8 programs

I'm beginning to think the bills and credit card accounts that I agreed to go paperless I need to recontact them and have them resume paper even if it costs a couple of dollars. I just do not like 10 AT ALL...
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Re: The Library
« Reply #21234 on: June 25, 2020, 01:17:37 PM »
Barb, I am pretty much struggling with all you mentioned in your post above, about how things are in the world today.  I go from being extremely frustrated, to wanting to shut the entire world out, yet I do some news for about an hour each night.  There is nothing for me to watch on TV anymore.  I had regular shows I truly enjoyed setting my DVR, and now due to the virus all my shows are repeats.  I refuse to sit and watch a repeat.

The destruction has gotten out of control.  It is not about racism, nor is it any longer about the death of George Floyd, or police brutality.  These are organized groups being funded by very wealthy people wanting to destroy our country as we know it.  They want all of our history and religions to be toppled, so they can begin again, a New World Order.  It's been in the planning stages for years, and because the election is coming, this is their opportunity to intimidate, bully, and put fear in the cities, hoping to accomplish their goals.  The mayors and governors refusing to do anything, have been given the orders to stand down, and sit and watch their cities go up in flames, the statues being toppled, and their businesses being looted, along with all the historical monuments, and now churches, being desecrated and defamed.  I tell my hubby it's like waking up and not recognizing our country, we have cities that look like worn torn terrorist nations.  My heart hurts just seeing this.  I do think because of the Covid virus, being in quarantine, not being able to be with our friends and family, and not being able to just get up and go to places we enjoy, has added to all of this.  Where can we escape to? 

Making the masks were my escape, but I am waiting on a new sewing machine before I can begin a new order for a restaurant owner, who wants me to supply them with masks, so they can reopen.  I saw where The Toledo Museum of Art is sponsoring a Covid-19 virtual quilting bee.  They are accepting photos of 12 x 12 quilt blocks and will join them together to make a virtual quilt.  I submitted mine, and am anxious to see the final quilt.  I'm excited to be a part of this history, even though it is a reminder of a sad time in our world.

This is my submission, a quilt block made from scraps from the face masks that I have made. The two little sewing appliques were given to me from a dear family/friend. I placed the heart shape in the quilt squares, to signify all the love that goes into making the masks. I'm excited to be a part of this virtual quilt the museum in putting together, reminding us of all the wonderful people who went to their sewing machines to help protect and prevent the spread of this virus. I plan to place my actual quilt piece in a frame. I am NOT a quilter, I have made a total of three small size memory quilts, (one for each of my sons as a wedding gift, and one for my sister when she lost her husband).  I consider myself a bit more than an amateur with a sewing machine.

Here is my quilt swatch:

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Re: The Library
« Reply #21235 on: June 25, 2020, 01:30:57 PM »
Ginny, I do like your enthusiasm, where the quarantine is concerned.  To say you are enjoying it, because it has slowed your life down, is one positive way to look at it.  For me, I am a bit of a home-body, so even though I like going out on a whim to do and see things, I also have taken this time to really enjoy simple things like my flowers and birds.  The Oriole loves the new feeder, and is coming every day still. 

I actually am proud to say, I HAVE FINISHED MY BOOK!!!  I have been reading The Island by Elin Hilderbrand for weeks now.  I almost gave up on it a few times.  The past couple of days I forced myself to keep reading.  Last night I picked it up, got to the more interesting story line, and stayed up til 3:30 a.m. finishing it. This was a slow read book, and I can't say it is one of her better books.  Now, if only I can keep at reading.  With no TV shows to watch, I am hoping I'll spend the time reading.

My hubby and I went out to a restaurant for Father's Day, since we celebrated with the kids and grandkids on Friday evening, due to schedule issues with sports out of town for Zak.  We were very hesitant about eating out, but we chose a restaurant by the waterfront.  We went shortly after church, so there was not a lot of people out on the deck.  I did have some reservations, but our waiter and all the employees wore masks, and our table was spaced far apart from the other tables.  We enjoyed drinks, while waiting for our food.  I had a Pina Colada for the first time in years, and hubby had a draft beer.  I felt so good to sit and just look out at the boats going by, the sunshine, and a small breeze was just perfect.  I was not ready to eat inside, but outside was okay.  Now, if I can only get up enough nerve to have a sleepover with Zoey & Zak, who are waiting very patiently for us to say yes.

“What on earth could be more luxurious than a sofa, a book, and a cup of coffee?...Was ever anything so civil?”
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Re: The Library
« Reply #21236 on: June 25, 2020, 03:29:17 PM »
Barbara, yes I did end up paying for Mary Beard although I tried not to, I simply missed reading her new  thoughts, as she is so generous in her remarks and knowledge  which reflect the latest in classics, it's a privilege to read her. It's not her fault that the Times wanted to charge for it.

 The bad part is the loss of her commenting group there. I learned a great deal by reading their comments, as some of them  were particularly knowledgeable. And some were not. I don't see that many if any of them came across the paywall.  It was like sitting in the corner overhearing a bunch of classicists who really know their stuff sometimes. I learned  a lot, particularly about Leda and the Swan and some other things. I'm sorry they are gone, they were entertaining and informative. I particularly miss Michael Bulley.

She can be very controversial.   She's a very kind person, and I admire her, even when I...dare to..... disagree with her position on some things.



As far as treating oneself to one of those subscriptions to ONE channel extra if one can see what one wants ON it, I think it's worth $50 a year in this  current era of CAN'T, and sacrifice,  to do something for yourself---to lift  your own spirits.

Those of us who HAVE stayed home, who HAVE worn masks  and sacrificed our normal lives, and who now face even worse sanctions than before including inot being allowed to fly into NYC,  thanks to those who did not do any sacrifice at all, I think WE deserve something that lifts up our spirits, too.

But I balance everything against "but I'm not on a ventilator," and that's my outlook.

I haven't read Dervla Murphy, I will look her  up. I love books on travel. I still think that  Down the Nile is the best I've read, about the young woman determined to row a boat by  herself down the Nile, but I haven't read it in years.



Bellamarie, what a cute quilt square.   So glad you finished the book! I have ordered two more Agatha Christie books of short stories to have for when this one is over, she's sure got me reading again. And I am  reading all kinds of stuff now, thanks to her sort of letting me indulge my new short little attention span. I like repairing to what was a guestroom/ then nursery for my little grandson when he stayed here, it's all white (disastrous choice, I know) even the carpet with views of the trees and a nice chaise lounge. I  find it quiet and peaceful away from the TV and the outside world, a retreat. Am only reading one story of hers a day but now also small bits of  others as well, little snippets but they are beginning to take hold. Reading 4 books in total now but only when I want to and stopping when I feel like it, and not reading at all if I don't want to.  As I read fast, too fast, they are finished too soon. I remember when we all wanted to read faster, faster.

Remember that? And all  those crazy techniques? Everybody wanted to read at the speed JFK did. I find I sometimes (NOW) have to read a history page  4 times or more till it sticks.  And I have to apply those  Mind Palace techniques as Sherlock Holmes talked about, till it does stick.

But I want it to stick. What's the use of reading something you can't recall a day later? So this is good memory training, too, and as we know now  the human brain continues on its own to develop new synapses (memory, cognitive functioning) up to age  98...and only because that's as old as they tested.



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Re: The Library
« Reply #21237 on: June 25, 2020, 03:58:07 PM »
Ginny, I am in love with decorating with "white", now that I no longer have my in home day care business, and it's just my hubby and I, unless Zak & Zoey come to spend the night. I have just simply loved going with white, with a light color accent, maybe pale blue, gray, or even yellow.  My family and friends visit now and say, you can sure tell you no longer have little kids around any more.  I have two bedrooms upstairs that I have turned into "my" rooms.  One is for getting dressed in, with a wicker rocker that belonged to my hubby's family.  It must be over 100 yrs old. I painted it white and bought new pads for it, I have rocked every one of my children and grandchildren in it.  The other room is for my treadmill, another new wicker rocker, desk, dresser and bookshelves.  It's a very peaceful room, a light gray and white.  But....sad to say, it has become the catch all room since Christmas, and I need to get in there and sort things out, and store the boxes in the garage that are from Christmas. 

You are right, we should not be so strict on allowing ourselves the cost of small things that are enjoyable, during this shut down.  I am going to rethink the cost of being able to watch the entire seasons of A Place To Call Home.  It does look like something I would enjoy.

Barb,  I really like this:   

“Every reader, as he reads, is actually the reader of himself.
The writer’s work is only a kind of optical instrument he provides the reader so
he can discern what he might never have seen in himself without this book.
The reader’s recognition in himself of what the book says is the proof of the book’s truth.”


— Marcel Proust

I agree very much with this.... that is why I think in our book discussions we would get so much passion and conviction in our posts.  It's really all through our own personal lens.

I'm glad to hear you are now able to set up with pillows.  What a great gift your kids bought for you, a 50 inch TV is like being at a theater.  I remember when President Bush gave us all a refund/stimulus check years ago, we went out and bought our 50+ HD TV and mounted it on the wall above the fireplace.  Can you believe it is still working today?  Fingers crossed, it will continue on for a lot more years. 

Okay, gotta run, I hear the dryer alert calling me.  Laundry can't wait! 
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Re: The Library
« Reply #21238 on: June 25, 2020, 05:19:31 PM »
If anyone here is in contact with the powers that be over in Seniors & Friends, please let them know there seems to be a problem getting into their site.  I have tried 6 different times, even shutting down my computer, and coming back in, but it will not let me get in.  I even have the site bookmarked on my toolbar, and still nothing.  After a long time with the little rotating circle, it goes to AOL Search, and shows that there is a S&F, but you can't make any of those links work either. 
Thanks.
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Re: The Library
« Reply #21239 on: June 25, 2020, 05:48:57 PM »
Tomereader, I couldn’t get in either, on my iPhone. I think yesterday was the last time I got through.