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PatH

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Re: The Library
« Reply #21960 on: December 18, 2020, 07:44:15 PM »

The Library


Our library  is open 24/7; the welcome mat is always out.
Do come in from daily chores and spend some time with us.




The December  Book Challenge!! 

  We have so enjoyed our 30 Day Book Challenges!  Let's do our own December Book Challenge to start December 1:  one for every day in December concerning our December reading.

ALL suggestions welcome and needed! To start us off for December 1:

Podcast Themes and Reactions: See Rosemary's Posts


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« Reply #21961 on: December 18, 2020, 08:25:03 PM »
I just went through the titles of the books I read and applied appropriate ones to the questions. Some of the books themselves fit the questions, but nothing particularly stuck out. I did enjoy reading all of them.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #21962 on: December 18, 2020, 10:40:36 PM »
Not appropos to our discussion, but maybe of interest to some of us mystery folk.

PBS to Broadcast Two Documentaries on Agatha Christie

Couldn't get this to show the link, but it's on Publisher's Weekly site.
The reading of a fine book is an uninterrupted dialogue in which the book speaks and our soul replies.


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« Reply #21963 on: December 19, 2020, 01:52:57 AM »
I noticed that Nlhome your suggestions were all titles for mystery stories - easy to see Nlhome what you have been reading :) - and so very timely Tomereader - appears both Nilhome and Ginny are into their mystery stories

Pat the Woman in White selection intrigued me - finally decided if I'm right or wrong it referred to your white hair because I just could not see you wearing some flowing white dress on a daily basis, nor did I see you as having escaped from an asylum or being stopped from marrying a lover. And for sure another on your list - after looking up the excerpt on Amazon I now have on my wish list A Mixture of Frailties - never heard of the author and so it will be a treat - and yes, I noticed it was the last book of a trilogy but the story as described did sound the most interesting.

Ginny wasn't Jude the Obscure among the first books discussed back when it was SeniorNet - seems to me it was when I was still on the edges not sure if I should jump in - I need to go back and read it - for some reason that story did not stick with me as did some of his other books. And I remember when we did Prufrock had not read much Eliot and where I purchased a book of his poems, except for Prufrock I was not all that taken with his poetry - I think his personal life got in my way.

Rosemary I immediately and calmly go into another place when you describe what you see on your walks - just love it - and yes, we have that in common - the sunsets are magical this time of year - we used to tell the children when the sky was streaked in reds and oranges it was Santa baking cookies for the stockings of all the children he visited Christmas Eve.  I too love the children's stories written before the 50s - the kids are always so plucky - I love that - gave me courage back when I was a kid and still like the way they tackle problems rather than being dependent on grownups - they are novels ;). OH oh oh and yes, yes, yes - this time of year one must read Wind in the Willows, especially Dulce Domum that and A Child's Christmas in Wales are two that are a must.

Ok the rational for my choices

Describe Yourself: Get Unstuck Now - been over a year that i have been coming to terms with my age, the biggie my retiring and figuring out who I am - did not realize how much I identified my worth with my work

How Do You Feel: A Gentleman in Moscow - on many levels - being sequestered, sorting out my house and finding boxes, folders, back of the closet items like he explored the hotel, finding a new purpose in life - on and on it really matched.

Describe Where you currently live: The Great Betrayal this book explains how the 4th Crusade ransacked Constantinople that satisfied the Greed and Power mongering of those who financially backed the Crusade - that is essentially what happened to Austin...

We were being touted as a great city with lots of pluses and then, ta ta da dah in come the greedy investors who scooped up mostly the east side where traditionally black families have lived in homes passed down since the Civil War but low income they were low value - they changed the landscape with expensive condos - then the high rises followed by enough voters from outside not only the city but the state without a history of Austin and so the next to get passed was dividing the city into districts - the way it was divided, the areas where Austin voters lived and were the ones to make the city into a mecca of joy and civility were gathered into one big district compared to the smaller districts that included all these condos, that at first had equal and then with more gentrification more voting power -

The mayor who had attended UT - his sole connection to Austin till he moved back - decided to change what worked and not only went to California to get advise on the Homeless but arranged for, some say 2000 but at least a 1000 to be brought here and then he accepted homeless from NY and other places - it goes on and on - the first recall for his removal was stopped because of the pandemic - they are collecting signatures again - he has 2 more years - what was Austin is no longer and most who were looking forward to their children enjoying what was a great city have either moved out or will move - I'm on that list - biggest problem we have is where to go...

If you could go anywhere, where would you go? – Lunch in Paris - Ha I'll meetup with Tomereader who wants to visit a bookstore in Paris and maybe even Ginny as she boards the Orient Express.

Your Favorite form of transportation: Blink – since my legs do not work very well any longer and I hate being trapped in a commercial plane - I feel like cattle being transported - I will travel by the mind and the blink of an eye ;)

Your best friend is: Caretakers of Wonder oh this is a wonderful book of about 14 illustrated pages showing fantasy figures 'doing' - after you die you have a job like washing the stars or pulling up the night or polishing the rainbow or even placing ripe apples on trees - I can see Charlotte now gathering all the Angles to help make sure they've collected enough rain for the farmers and the stars are really sparkling clean to guide the sailors and hunters - she would be organizing them all...

You and your friends are: Desperate Circumstance, Dangerous Woman – not a story for everybody but my favorite stanza is...
same with your people.
same with you.
it's what you hold to in your middle makes your
memory.
and only you can know what's in your memory,
baby.
and if you got a danger living in you
then you got to take it by the hand
and walk with it.
live with it.
you got to live with your danger, daughter."

What's the weather like: Southern Nights - Perfect - our weather is so erratic - in the morning the heat may be needed. Temps may be in the 30s or low 40s then by evening it is in the 70s or 80s and if not the AC at least a fan - or it may rain in the morning, then the sun and then a hail storm that is all melted by 9: as the southern breezes have blown up from the Gulf - like today it was cold in the high 30s this morning and tonight it is hot and muggy in the 70s so the heat is off and the house fan is on... love the second stanza...
Southern skies
Have you ever noticed
Southern skies
It's precious beauty
Lies just beyond the eye
It goes running through the soul
Like the stories told of old
You fear: 1984 – ah so...

What is the best advice you have to give: Everything Belongs: The Gift of Contemplative Prayer - in other words no good or bad - it is all lessons and opportunities to choose how to respond that will become your way.

Thought for the day: You Can’t Make This Stuff Up – the book is not that great but the concept so fits everyday of this year. If you told me even as late as last year what this year would bring I would sooner have believed a fantasy novel then our reality. Actually I could say it about many years of my life as well...

My Soul's present condition: The Dark Night of the Soul – ever since my experience the summer before last visiting family I had not seen in years and what happened in their life along with the social changes in places I lived for awhile as a child that my aunt warned me that what I saw would happen and other experiences, I've been going through a crisis of faith - I think I am finally putting it together - defining a path for myself is helping - and so I get up, I'm grateful for much, put a smile on my face and pick up the shovel - this is not my first time around this barn and so I will muck it out...

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #21964 on: December 19, 2020, 07:52:03 AM »
My list:

Describe yourself:  Fuzzy Nation also by John Scalzi
A lament to short term memory decline

How do you feel: The Mill River Recluse by Darcie Chan
COVID-19 is encouraging me even more to play hermit these days.

Describe where you currently live: The House of Usher by Nathaniel Hawthorn
A lament to not being able to afford some of the upgrades this old house needs.

If you could go anywhere, where would you go: Toss-up. Vindolanda by Adrian Goldsworthy or The Door Through Space by Marion Zimmer Bradley
Well, I could go either way, back to the Imperial Roman era, or forward to a future in space.

Your favourite form of transportation: Odysseus Ascendant by Evan Currie
Hard to find the right title, but this will do. Odysseus is a space warship. Its predecessor, Odyssey, was a combo space exploration/warship. Or, I could say Seeker by Jack McDevitt. Unfortunately, in the book timeline, Seeker, one of the first FTL spaceships, was already a derelict. In the real world, right now, I would say Black Stallion by Walter Farley

Your best friend is: The Cat Who Had 14 Tales by Lilian Jackson Braun
Paying homage to my cats and their companionship.

You and your friends are: Ships in the Night by Jack McDevitt
We mostly email or chat on the phone.

What’s the weather like: Winter Garden by Kristen Hannah
Snow is so lovely before it gets messed up by snow plows and snow melt.

You fear: Battlefield Earth by L. Ron Hubbard
The next "War to end all wars"

What is the best advice you have to give: Reach for Infinity by Jonathan Strahan
A hope that we continue to learn, innovate and explore our world and beyond.

Thought for the day: Forget Nothing by Jason Anspach and Michelle C. Meyers
Never forget the lessons of history, otherwise, like they say, you are doomed to repeat it. Oh, and another dig at my forgetfulness.

My soul’s present condition: Infinity Beach by Jack McDevitt
What lies beyond our present lives?

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« Reply #21965 on: December 19, 2020, 12:26:54 PM »
:) Pat, the scuttling claws never resonated with me.

In Edit: Barbara, I was not aware that we discussed Jude the Obscure here but you are absolutely right! We did!

This is like  visiting a psychiatrist, isn't ? Such fun. Such INTERESTING answers.

Your best friend is:
  Auld Lang Syne (song)
  My best friend of 50+ years is now in the stages of dementia and in Assisted Living,  being hoodwinked and swindled by her former yard man whom she now considers the son she never had, and there is nothing anybody can do.  So we have memories now and they are good ones.

You and your friends are:   Curious George  I like people who are curious and want to learn.

What’s the weather like:  The Winter of our Discontent (Richard III)


This has always been one of my favorite quotes and there's no more applicable time than now, considering the pandemic and the new vaccine.

"Now is the winter of our discontent
Made glorious summer by this sun of York;
And all the clouds that lour'd upon our house
In the deep bosom of the ocean buried.
Now are our brows bound with victorious wreaths;
Our bruised arms hung up for monuments;
Our stern alarums changed to merry meetings,
Our dreadful marches to delightful measures."

 And I hope it stays that way.


You fear: Ozymandias (poem---Shelley)


"I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”


What is the best advice you have to give:   Never Give Up

Thought for the day:   Never Give Up.


These speak for themselves.




My soul’s present condition:    Through the Looking-Glass
  I wanted a rabbit here and first chose Rabbit,  Run for the title till I realized I really hate the book and the content OF the book had nothing to do with me. Neither does Wonderland but I like the idea of the imagery of it and our current situation.

 I could equally have said The Pursuit of Happyness which is extremely inspirational. In fact I might change it today to that. Loved the movie. Loved the book and "Happyness" is spelled correctly in this context.






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« Reply #21966 on: December 19, 2020, 01:29:18 PM »
My gosh, talk about Auld Lang Syne, I looked up our discussion here of Jude the Obscure,  from 1997/ 1998, which was originally done on SeniorNet.org, and which  we moved here when SeniorNet went down,   to see why I had not remembered it,  and  it was led by Joan Pearson, and, talk about Auld Lang Syne, it  had Pat Westerdale,  Roslyn Stempel,  LJ Klein, Joan Grimes, Larry Hanna,  Jo Meander, and a lot of other people I don't remember ever even  knowing, and I have no excuse for not remembering it because I was in it, too. Goodness that's quite a roll call, and  Pat and JoanG. and Larry, and LJ and Roslyn having passed away. I'm glad to remember them now.

I don't recall anything about the discussion itself  for some reason.


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« Reply #21967 on: December 19, 2020, 08:59:11 PM »
Fabulous folks - I remember being so in awe of LJ and Roslyn - I still have on my computer that I brought over, since I've had several computers since, a personal exchange with Roslyn about hiking and if I recall Larry kept the technical side of things alive and well as Pat W. kept the site itself alive and well - I remember Joan Grimes and I forgot now his name but she met and married a fellow SeniorLearn poster - and Joan Pearson was a master at leading the most difficult discussions and always a class act. Jo I think was in Chicago - sorta remember her at the one restaurant that I think served Irish food but that was a wild experience and so the closing of the hotel still features big in my memory as does the meeting seminar arranged with Studs Terkel.
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« Reply #21968 on: December 20, 2020, 05:20:05 AM »
I am very unhappy to report that George is ill with COVID-19 and had an accident while on his way to get tested. He is in hospital now, so guess who must brave the germs to go feed his cats, contact the police for him to see where they took his car, and call some people for him.  Right now I am so very stressed.

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« Reply #21969 on: December 20, 2020, 07:46:42 AM »
Good heavens, Margie, what awful news!

Have YOU been tested?

I hope he will make a full recovery and that you take all precautions!!

{{{HUGS}}}

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« Reply #21970 on: December 20, 2020, 08:09:20 AM »
Going back a bit, Joan G's husband's name was Theron Boyd.

It's a nostalgic time of year, isn't it? Something old, something new.


I came in today originally to say I'm reading The Thursday Murder Club, one of the books which  was mentioned here a while back. This review kind of enticed me:

 "A little beacon of pleasure in the midst of the gloom...SUCH FUN!"
--Kate Atkinson, #1 New York Times bestselling author of Big Sky

At any rate, I'm enjoying it. It's set in a Retirement Community,   where the residents  form a club to solve unsolved murders, it's interesting and so far (8 chapters in) enjoyable. It also shows that the author, a young man, has had some exposure to a   retirement center and that part rings true, too, in a delightful  positive  way, so far.  Reminds me of a lunch I had in an upscale one recently.

It's sort of like Corinne Holt Sawyer's series of the late 90's which take place in Camden-Sur Mer, also a Retirement Community,  which I guess people referred to as "cozy," I enjoyed them. I still think her first one there, the J, Alfred Prufrock Murders,  was  ingenious, and the characters engaging. She based the setting on a retirement community she herself went to join her sister in living in.  But this one is also enjoyable with memorable characters and a bit more edge than the Sawyer ones had. More male characters this time. It has rave reviews, but  I had been put off by some negative reviews, but then I kept hearing so much about it, I decided to give it a try:  so far it's very enjoyable and fun.

The author, Richard, Osman,  is apparently the creator and host of the BBC One television quiz show Pointless, which I've never seen, but  I am enjoying his book.

Interesting interview with the author talking about the books he really enjoys:

My comfort read


"I always go back to Spark and Patricia Highsmith, who come at the human condition from very different angles but each write with such deceptive simplicity. I know one shouldn’t be soothed by Tom Ripley, but I find the thought that he might still be out there somewhere, holed up in the wilds of France, strangely comforting."

Me, too.  :)

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/aug/28/richard-osman-i-want-to-be-writing-novels-for-the-rest-of-my-life-now

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« Reply #21971 on: December 20, 2020, 10:00:28 AM »
Oh, Frybabe, how awful for both of you.  Do take as much care of yourself as you can.  If the weather allows, opening windows where you have to be in his house for long enough for a change of air will help reduce risk.  And of course wear a mask and check that it actually fits well.

After exposure it takes some days before someone tests positive, so you want to strategize when is the best time for you. Unfortunately, I'm not sure the current recommendation--5 or 6 days I think.

Do take care of yourself.  We're all pulling for you and George.

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« Reply #21972 on: December 20, 2020, 10:22:31 AM »
Oh frybabe - not one but two major health issues for George - as to you going into his home I'm thinking a couple of cans of lysol spray and spray down everything along with you doubling up on Vitamin C, D, Zinc and down it with a bottle of tonic water - the government site says it stays on surfaces from hours to days - do you have disposable gloves you can wear and as soon as you get back home I hope you are planning to shower with tea tree oil soap and wash your clothes - my prayers will be for both you and George - please keep us updated - Did George brake any bones in the accident - is he injured or shaken - sounds like his vehicle is drive-able.
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« Reply #21973 on: December 20, 2020, 01:10:26 PM »
I've put off going over to his house until tomorrow. This being a Sunday, most of whom he wanted me to contact are not available until tomorrow. The phone numbers I have for his cousin and several friends are old and no longer in use. George tried to call me this morning but the phone disconnected when I reached it and his line was busy when I called back. I finally got through the the duty nurse station and talked with someone there. She got someone to check on George, and we talked awhile with her asking some questions, like did he have a bathroom on the first floor or needed assistance walking. She gave me some pointers while in his house, most of which I already knew. She couldn't guess when he might be released, but said he is breathing well and doesn't have a fever; she expects once his "runs" have subsided, they will let him go. Then he will have to self-quarantine for 10 days. He said he has some bruises from the accident, but otherwise only his ego got damaged. I expect I will be the one to take him home or, she said, he could get an Uber ride. I am surprised they would pick up COVID patients.

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« Reply #21974 on: December 20, 2020, 02:57:09 PM »
thanks for the update - hope his health continued to improve - so far does not sound dire. I bet though you will be on edge for a bit even if you do not want to be - be thinking of you...
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #21975 on: December 22, 2020, 08:30:32 AM »
Hope Frybabe is doing OK with her challenging new demands. What a year this has BEEN!

Still reading The Thursday Murder Club . It's clever and cute, so far and it's a police procedural which I normally don't want to touch, but this time it's engaging.

Am also reading The Shadow of Vesuvius for a class in January. I am not sure what to say about it, hopefully somebody will have read it and can comment on it.

It reads like a novel, but it's not, it's the story of the eruption of Vesuvius in 79 A.D,  and the two Plinys, Pliny the Elder, who died during the eruption and Pliny the Younger who wrote about it.

The author looks 10 years old but is a scholar, classicist,  and historian and obviously has an encyclopedia memory. It's unfocused. It reminds me of an old codger telling you about a trip to the grocery and everything he passes he needs to pause and reflect on and digress on and expound on till the original purpose is totally lost.

The FACTS being digressed on are fascinating and point to a very learned mind, but the original thread is soon lost in the diversions.   I don't mind knowing about the diversions, but you get to the point that something is mentioned, like oysters, and you think no no....but  it's too late, we're off on oysters...for several pages. Perhaps she felt this would be the most interesting way to handle it. I think the oysters would have made a great footnote, and let the reader choose for themselves whether to  diverge or not.

I think maybe if one didn't have to read it in a hurry it would be most enjoyable?




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« Reply #21976 on: December 22, 2020, 12:36:48 PM »
Ginny the non-direct way of the author's tale reminds me of someone explaining a meal they enjoyed and inevitably they go into where the veggies were grown and the side of the hill the grapes were grown and from what vineyards and if the cow was corn fed or grass fed - although if you are a foodie it is a delightful after dinner conversation - sounds like she is including bits of history that are not important enough for their own chapter or story...

frybabe update us - how is George doing and were you successful feeding his cats? Which by the way what special tips did the nurse pass along that would help keep you safe when you entered George's apartment?

I'm reading another, what I call Chit Chat books - too busy during the day and at night i want something simple and so it is The Great Christmas Knit-off by Alaxandra Brown - just enough of a different plot to keep me reading  - this time she was left at the alter but the added twist is he elopes with her twin sister - ouch - and in her disconnect she makes a huge mistake after many smaller mistakes at her job - instead of drink or girl friends or another cute guy her compulsion to sooth her inner turmoil is to knit - she has one true friend who does not judge or give advise and after 7 or 8 months of this disaster they plan a Christmas visit only to find at the last minute the friend attends a 3 day conference on wine - she and her husband run successful pubs - and so that leaves Syb loose in this tiny village with lots of caring villages and no good outside phone service much less any easy transportation out - but there is a knit shop with the owner's age and nephew, wanting to get his hands on the land to develop it, as the opportunities for Syb to save the day - other interesting characters and a few dogs that all add to the story but that is the gist of it...   
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« Reply #21977 on: December 22, 2020, 02:57:38 PM »
Greetings all.

It has been another busy-ish day today. I finally decided to try Instacart. What a trip that was. I was both happy with it and unhappy with it. The order was here before I knew it, very quick. However, there were many substitutions which I wasn't exactly happy with. I'll have to pay more attention to that aspect next time (if there is one) and I ended up with three items I never ordered. Because of the COVID protocols, I do not return them, and if no one claims them they are mine, as is the one substitution I was not truly happy with which I keep free. The CSR also adjusted the price for a product size substitution but did not show on the final order receipt which reduced my cost a smidge.

Afterward I ended up on Amazon because my toner finally ran out, so of course, I had to order that and another drinking fountain for the cats.

I haven't talked to George yet today. But I did get all the calls I had to make for him. His cousin called me when she couldn't get a hold of him over the weekend so we gabbed a while. It was so nice to reconnect with her. The phone numbers I had for her were no longer in use and I lost her email address which was okay, because she had changed that too.

Last night I discovered myself still up at 1:45am reading. I really lost track of time on that one. Even so, I only got up an hour late.

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« Reply #21978 on: December 23, 2020, 10:05:04 AM »
Margie, if you are exposed to the apartment of a person with Covid, then do you have to quarantine, yourself? I would think so.

I have not heard of Instacart, it sounds handy if odd, if they are substituting things for what you want, but it's good to know they will deliver and hopefully if George keeps on feeling well he might make use of it in the quarantine period as well. 

I hope you are being careful. What a THING to happen here to all of us, particularly with this new strain, how frightening is that, but  I saw yesterday a scientist being interviewed who said  if it mutates we can tweak the vaccine, he seemed pretty positive, I guess that means the flu vaccine and the Coronavirus vaccine will be our new yearly shots. Or maybe they will be combined?

I read this morning that my little Thursday Murder Club read is the #1 bestseller in England? Or was it the UK? This month. The author is, in addition to being a TV personality,  6'7" and has a strange eye impediment, which I had never heard of. It seems quite difficult. We don't know how lucky we are when you read of such things, but he's really done well for himself, I think, an inspiration to us all.

He also has an interesting philosophy on what it means to be intelligent, I liked reading the article on him in the Guardian.

Still segueing through the Vesuvius addenda.

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« Reply #21979 on: December 23, 2020, 12:36:21 PM »
I don't know for sure Ginny, but I am anyway. Other than checking on the house and cats, I don't plan to go anywhere unless I need to get gas. I forgot to check while there this morning to see if he has any more dry food stashed in the cupboard. I am likely to have to order some from Amazon this weekend. They are good for cat littler and wet food for now, but I will probably order more of the wet food soon. The nurse already asked me about making grocery arrangements. She also asked whether he has a bathroom downstairs and about how well he is getting around. She must have noticed he sometimes has trouble walking well.

I've got some laundry to do and then I am going to stretch out on the sofa and read, maybe call to see how he is doing today. No one has called, so I guess he is still in his room and not in the ICU.

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« Reply #21980 on: December 26, 2020, 10:42:56 AM »
Hello all, and apologies for the radio silence - I don't know where the days have gone, especially as I don't even have the usual Christmas excuses of cooking, being sociable  ;D, etc.

Firstly, Frybabe - I do hope the situation has calmed down now. How fortunate George is to have you to do all this for him. You must be exhausted. I hope you have managed to get some time for yourself over the past few days.

We had Christmas here by ourselves and it was (in my opinion) so much easier and so much less stressful. My husband, being more sociable than I am, did miss seeing everyone and being away at the house we usually rent in the Highlands - I agree that when we have everyone to accommodate it's nicer to go there than be at home, but it does involve a huge amount of planning and hard work, 99% of which lands on me. Meet the Grinch - I know!

As it was, yesterday we drove to Dundee and had a long walk with our youngest daughter. I had not seen her since August, though we talk on the phone a lot, so it was lovely to see her. She was on good form (she almost always is, thank goodness), and took us down to the waterfront, past the new V & A and the SS Discovery, and along the river. There are so many interesting old warehouses down there, some now flats; Dundee has not benefitted from/suffered (depending on your POV) the gentrification of Edinburgh or even Glasgow, but it has a fascinating industrial and trading history. When we got home we made dinner (cooking what we wanted instead of the traditional meal), called our families, opened our presents, and watched A Mighty Wind - which we'd seen before, but still find very funny.

I was delighted to receive these books:

Business as Usual by Jane Oliver - this is a reprint (by Handheld Press) from 1933 and many bloggers I know have been singing its praises, so I'm looking forward to it;

Kitchen Essays by Agnes Jeykll, first published in 1922 and now reprinted by Persephone; this, I think, will be an entertaining and enlightening look at the kind of advice the aristocracy felt able to dish out to women (including those of 'lesser standing') in post WWI England, when servants were hard to come by.

Olive, Mabel and Me, by Andrew Cotter, a leading Scottish sports commentator who, finding himself with no work thanks to coronavirus, started making little videos of his two labradors - he does a voiceover 'commentary' and although it may sound silly, it's actually hilarious as he has a very dry, very Scots, humour. The 'sporting commentaries' expanded into all sorts of other incidents in the daily life of the 3 of them, and I believe they are now seen across the world. The book is not meant to be funny, it's just about their life together and, as the introduction says, 'the story of Olive and Mabel's rise to internet stardom and how walking and climbing in the mountains helps them all find peace and happiness away from a hectic world.'

I also worked out my reading theme for 2021 - I am going to read books with references to food, meals, etc in the titles. They don't need to be about food, just have the words on the cover. I've already sorted out about forty books from my own shelves. Of course I'll read other things too, so these should be more than enough to keep me going. I've just bought a copy of Verily Anderson's Spam Tomorrow, so that will be one of the first reads.

Hope everyone is having an OK Boxing Day. I have missed the Christmas specials of both All Creatures Great & Small and Call the Midwife, so I am going to record the repeats to watch later.

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« Reply #21981 on: December 26, 2020, 11:25:09 AM »
And I forgot to explain my choice of books for that little challenge we did:

Describe yourself: The Last Hillwalker (John D Burns) - I chose this because, especially as the winter wears on, I notice that there are far fewer people out walking every day, but I still press on, because my daily walk has become integral to my routine, and if I have to miss it I really notice how my spirits sink. I don't often climb hills at this time of year, but I plan to be back up them again in the spring - we had some fabulous hill walks last summer.

How do you feel: Dead Cold (Louise Penney) - obviously!  This is the north of Scotland in December....

Describe where you currently live:
O Caledonia (Elspeth Barker) - again obvious, but I especially like this title because of its Roman associations, and really just as a romantic name for Scotland. The book itself is full of eccentric characters and Gothic descriptions - wonderful.

If you could go anywhere, where would you go: Rose Cottage (Mary Stewart) - again fairly self-evident. I lived in a cottage not that far from here, but in a more remote setting, when the children were babies. I'd love to return to that village, and there is in fact a very nice cottage for sale there right now.  Unfortunately husband is so far resisting my brilliant idea  ;D

Your favourite form of transportation: The Christmas Train (David Balducci) - I love train travel as much as I hate planes. I haven't been on a train now since March, but once we have been vaccinated (they are estimating some time in spring for my age group, there are a lot of groups before me, but that's OK) I look forward to revisiting some of the most scenic lines in Scotland. One I have never been on is the Glasgow-Mallaig route - I've seen it on the TV and I'd love to go on it. The train from Aberdeen to Inverness also passes through some spectacular countryside accessible only by rail - and a couple of stops before Inverness is Aviemore, home of my son and daughter-in-law. I read The Christmas Train a few weeks ago - enjoyed most of it, was irritated by the ending.

Your best friend is: Another Marvelous Thing (Laurie Colwin) - my friend Nancy has been my lifeline here; we have kept to our routine of walking together at least once a week, and we've both so much enjoyed the regular human contact and opportunity to chat about everything from our (grown up) children to Scottish independence. We share an interest in local/social history, which so many people find dull; we like nothing better than ferreting about the countryside, peering through fences, over walls, into ditches, and trying to work out how things were, or what things were for. I know that I have read the Laurie Colwin book, but I have to admit that I can't remember a thing about it so I'd probably better read it again.

You and your friends are: Excellent Women (Barbara Pym) - of course!  (But Pym was referring to a scene in the novel where the narrator, Mildred, is described as an 'excellent woman' - ie the type of spinster who always helps at church jumble sales, does the flowers, and generally runs around after the clergy and anyone else who either can't or won't do their own dirty work. My friends are not like that!  My good friend Judith, a vicar's daughter who still often finds herself unable to stop doing Good Deeds, even though she has lots of her own interests, plus a husband, grown up children, etc, recently stood down as the secretary of a particularly tedious group at the cathedral. A younger man took over. It then became clear that although he had willingly taken on the role, he had assumed that Judith would carry on doing all the donkey work - the minutes, agendas, mailings, etc - while he would just bask in the glory of being in charge. Typical!  I have given her a pep talk about telling him to get on with it.

What’s the weather like: The Wind in the Willows (Kenneth Graeme) - again self-explanatory, and I had to get one of my very favourite books in somewhere!

You fear: Trouble in the Village (Rebecca Shaw) Shaw's Turnham Malpas series is one of those that I always find annoying but don't seem to be able to keep away from. The characters in the numerous stories are not that well developed, and the central family is far, far too good to be true - and yet I just can't stop myself, and every so often I'm back for another dose of sanctimonious smugness...  And yes, I don't want any trouble in the real village either, though trouble in books can be fun.

What is the best advice you have to give: Don't Tell Alfred (Nancy Mitford) - I love Nancy Mitford, and although this is not one of her best books, i still enjoyed it. Alfred is the narrator, Fanny's, ambassador husband. They live in Paris, and various of Fanny's rich and badly-behaved family and friends cause lots of trouble, all of which she keeps from Alfred. I have come to the conclusion that things like this are indeed sometimes best kept from one's husband - not the really important stuff, just the little crises in the lives of one's children, etc.

Thought for the day: We Should All Be Feminists (Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie) - well yes, obvs, as my daughters would say...

My soul’s present condition: A Glass of Blessings (Barbara Pym) - I do feel richly blessed by this past year. I know it has been terrible for so many, and I know how lucky I am to have been able to live here in the countryside, appreciating the seasons and nature in general more than ever before, and to have had so much more time for reading and writing. I've also been able to meet up with friends I hadn't seen for years, and to re-evaluate my busy life in Edinburgh. I doubt I would have given up my job for ages if all of this hadn't happened, yet (and I know how lucky I am to have been able to do this) leaving it has really set me free. And Barbara Pym takes the greatest pleasure in the small things, the funny quirks of people's behaviour - the very things that I find so entertaining myself.

Rosemary

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« Reply #21982 on: December 26, 2020, 01:37:20 PM »
Things have settled down a little here. Aside from spending an inordinate amount of time on the phone between George, the hospital, the cops, the ins. agency, and various friends and family, I have pretty much buried myself under the sofa blanket and stuck my nose into a book or two. None of the books were worth mentioning. I checked in on his cats this morning and made sure they were fed, etc. They are rather subdued the last few days, so I think they know something is up.

George, as of yesterday afternoon, is doing better. He sounds better and has started to complain about the TV remote and all the tubes and wiring that are keeping from moving around much. The attending physician's nurse said he has better color and is eating better. He is still on oxygen and will remain so until his blood oxygen levels return to normal and remain so. When he moves around too much the levels go down and, she said, it takes quite a while to recover. They also gave him a flu shot and a pneumonia 13 shot. I don't know how well the plasma antibody treatment is helping him.

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« Reply #21983 on: December 26, 2020, 01:56:39 PM »
Oh, I almost forgot. Last night I had an interesting conversation with George's cousin, who is a teacher. She was telling me about a book called The Giver by Lois Lowry and published back in the 1990s. A dystopian novel for teens, she used to assign it to her classes to read. I read a sample of it and even though it is written for 7-9 graders, I thought it very interesting. After long, long years languishing in development hell, a movie was finally released in 2014. I am going to look/see if it is on Prime Video or in the library.

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« Reply #21984 on: December 26, 2020, 02:14:23 PM »
I just had a look on Amazon, and in the UK it is £2.50 to watch or £6 to buy. I'm sure I've heard Lois Lowry's name in connection with other books, maybe ones that my daughter read, but I can't remember now what they were called.

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« Reply #21985 on: December 26, 2020, 05:11:48 PM »
Oh Rosemary I have just been looking at Olive and Mabel on u tube and it had me in stitches.  It is SO funny and his accent is SO pleasant to my ears.  I probably sound like that myself!
Thank you, thank you!!

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« Reply #21986 on: December 26, 2020, 06:05:54 PM »
Glad you’re enjoying them Dana - they never fail to make me laugh.

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« Reply #21987 on: December 27, 2020, 05:38:13 AM »
RosemaryKaye, Lowry did a series of "Anastasia" books, maybe eight or so. Perhaps that is where you have heard of her.

George was moved to Covid-ICU. He status was the same, but they are getting even more aggressive with the oxygen therapy and monitoring. Now I can only talk to the staff to get a status. Every time he moves about too much or even talks, his blood oxygen levels take a dive. The nurses are saying it takes a while for the levels to come back up, so they are trying to keep him still and talking only when necessary. My task for today is to clean out a room so I can bring his cats over here, or at least Lilly if I can catch her. At this point I don't expect him home anytime soon. I won't be surprised that when they pull him out of this, he will be sent over to physical therapy to gain strength back before releasing him.

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« Reply #21988 on: December 27, 2020, 09:00:14 AM »
I'm going to say something I'm sure will be quite unpopular.

I would  advise caution on bringing cats exposed to Covid19 into your house? Cats can contract coronavirus from people. The CDC mentions cats and dogs  being infected. There's no proof it can then spread to humans? Or other cats, but I noticed that the CDC mentions even if asymptomatic.  I personally would not take a chance on introducing new cats to my own home, or my own pets, or myself, but that's me.


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« Reply #21989 on: December 27, 2020, 09:02:34 AM »
Gosh Ginny, I never even thought of that. Makes sense.

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« Reply #21990 on: December 27, 2020, 09:57:16 AM »
Ginny, I think what you said is the current best guess.  There is no proof of Covid19 spreading from pets to their owners, so it can't be a major problem, but they haven't ruled it out completely.  It's frustrating how hard it is to pin down the facts of this virus.  They sort of have to zero in on the truth.

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« Reply #21991 on: December 27, 2020, 10:02:52 AM »
No, Ginny, it is not just you. The best I can do is have Lily boarded at the vet to make sure she gets her meds. At this point, me going back and forth to the house is just as dangerous as far as I am concerned. Boarding all five cats may get very expensive. It is something I need to talk to the vet about. At any rate, the room does need a clean out, so this is an excuse even if I don't use it for a cat room.

My newest library read, not started yet, is A War Like No Other by Victor Davis Hanson. And FLP has The Giver in audio book form so I got that too.

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« Reply #21992 on: December 27, 2020, 10:05:52 AM »
Frybabe, this must be so stressful for you, especially not being able to be there in person.  It sounds like George is getting really good care.  The physical therapy would be good; it could speed up the recovery of strength.

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« Reply #21993 on: December 27, 2020, 12:35:00 PM »
reading this exchange over the cats reminds me of how pets take the burnt of nearly any emergency - now it makes sense why they would not allow my sister (who is in her 80s) get a dog from the shelter and why no one would sell her a pet - they kept telling her it was because she could pass and then there would be no one to take care of the animal and now i see there is more - if she became ill there would be an issue over the care of the animal. I know folks now include after death adoption plans for their pets - maybe those of us who live alone need a care plan if we become ill.

So many various treatments talked about - sounds to me the treatment is selected based on the patients other health issues or lack there of. I'm also wondering if each hospital has its own protocol and chosen manner of treatment - so much about covid is new

We are back to a stage 5 which I suspected would happen over the holidays. 

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« Reply #21994 on: December 28, 2020, 12:46:14 PM »
Hallelujah!  I have finished all 34 chapters of the audiobook of Wuthering Heights. The ending was better than the beginning, but the relief of reaching The End was even better. I'm very glad I have finally conquered WH, but oh my, what a bitter, sad, tale of obsession and misery. I should probably go away and think about it all. And read something nice and uplifting.

Goodbye Heathcliff.  Goodbye Cathy. And goodbye Mr Lockwood, who was far too smug and self-important. Quite liked Nelly. Loved Hareton.

I cannot imagine how Emily Bronte thought all of this up, especially at her young age. What clever, strange minds those Bronte women had.

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« Reply #21995 on: December 28, 2020, 04:06:11 PM »
Have to agree Rosemary the Bronte family was dark - the brother, who also wrote and some place in this house I have a book of his poetry, anyhow I understand he drank too much - I've heard it said their mood and writing matched the area of Britain where they live but that to me is just white washing what appears to me to be some family issues that we will never know but with only one of them marrying and late in life at that there had to be more than the landscape prompting this sad look at life they all shared.

Never have read Charlotte's books and want to read Villette but do not want to risk another dark story at this point with so much darkness in real life. We are back to stage 5 again and so we talked and decided it was best for my son not to come up on Wednesday - because of his scheduled jobs it will not now be till the end of January - and so for me the Holidays are over - never was much for New Year's celebration - I'll take a day to re-group and then get on with it - just a bit earlier is all...

Started Murder at an Irish Christmas and with all her books written that are mostly priced $10 and above suggesting a more experienced and worthwhile writer her first chapter was so disjointed that come to think on it could be because she may have included some of these characters in other books and you were supposed to know who they were and something about them - some of my chit chat books were written better than this... disappointed - not sure if I will finish it - storyline, older revered musician found having fallen or was pushed from an upper balcony - frankly, maybe it is my mood but I could care less...

I'm anxious to read The Salt Path and I think I will give up on this mystery and start it - couple looses everything - home, money, jobs, and his health - cancer - and so the two set off on a long distance hike along the south west coast of England - now if that does not fit the feeling we all are sharing just now with everything up in the air and no feeling of security about anything - this book is grabbing my attention
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« Reply #21996 on: December 29, 2020, 10:50:28 AM »
Hope Frybabe is getting along OK, sounds like a serious situation there and I know the stress is tremendous.

{{HUGS}}}

I finished the Thursday Murder Club and liked it. Of course I had no clue as to Hu Dun It, but I never do. I was touched by the author's note at the end of thanks to the wonderful people in the Retirement Center he visited who gave him the idea in the first place. Aging is depicted with respect in it. I liked it, a lot.

Hopefully it will be a new series.

I also finished grudgingly the Dunn book  The Shadow of Vesuvius on the biography of the two Plinys,  and it's a true Cabinet of Curiosities. I think she came into her own in the last two chapters, but it was a particular type of book that I was not looking for at the time....sort of a leisurely romp down many paths. I like an encyclopedic mind, such as Christopher de Hamel, but he seems focused, and she does not,  and I like addenda but I do think the seques might have been handled differently. At  any rate,  I am enriched for having read it. How long I will  hold on to the millions of minute  unconnected  facts is another matter.

And NOW to some of my Christmas mysteries which are waiting patiently, here on the 5th Day of Christmas.

Speaking of Christopher de Hamel, there's to be a new Becket exhibit at the British Museum postponed because of Covid19,  and he thinks he has found Becket's Lost Book  and has written a new book about it called The Book in the Cathedral: The Last Relic of Thomas Becket.

Here's an article on the book itself: https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-55370722

Ah the brooding Heathcliffe, it's been a LONG time since I encountered him, and at the time I was in a really gothic phase  so I seem to recall being taken with it all.

The last book I went back and reread was Upton Sinclair's The Jungle and I found it to be as powerful as I remembered.

I've been thinking lately of rereading Victor Hugo's Hunchback of Notre Dame. I read it in French,  last, which I doubt sincerely I could do again, though you never know, I might like to try , just for the...whatever..... but I recall it to be a very rich and exciting book. I wonder if there's a good translation out there.

Did anybody get a book for Christmas/ the Holidays  they are enjoying? Or looked forward to?




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« Reply #21997 on: December 29, 2020, 11:53:57 AM »
Yes!  I got (as requested!) Business as Usual by Jane Oliver and I'm really looking forward to it.

But at the moment I have just started reading The Camomile Lawn by Mary Wesley. I think I read it when it first came out in 1984, but of course I can't recall a thing about it. Wesley was an interesting, unusual woman, who only started writing in her 70s, when she was left very short of money on the death of her second husband. Her biography is called Wild Mary, and she did indeed live a wild life, with many adventures and just as many lovers. I'm only up to chapter 3 of the novel but I'm enjoying it so far - it opens in 1939, when a group of young people arrive at their uncle's wife's huge country house in Cornwall for the holidays. One has just returned from the Spanish Civil War, and the others are wondering whether there will be another war, and if so what it will bring. As Wesley was quite posh, the characters are too - the girls are inevitably tall, blonde and long-legged, with names like Calypso - but I think Wesley did address some serious subjects - eg the Holocaust, dysfunctional families, etc, as well as writing family stories. I watched a very old TV adaptation of another of her books, Harnessing Peacocks, recently.

We have had snow and my walk to the river was VERY icy today - honestly, I am so scared of ice that I crawl about like a 90 year old.

Husband has, thank goodness, finished painting my study, so I spent the afternoon reinstating my book stacks, which pleased me greatly, sad person that I am.

Like all of you Ginny, I do hope Frybabe is managing - what a thing to have to deal with.

And I hope everyone else is safe and warm too.

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« Reply #21998 on: December 29, 2020, 12:29:08 PM »
I read Wuthering Heights so long ago, I can't remember it, although I suspect I would once I started rereading. I read Charlotte Bronte's Jane Eyre for myself when I was a teen, then in high school English class and again in a college English class. I always found something new in it. I have no desire to reread it.

Barb, I started Murder at an Irish Christmas too, just could not get into it so did not finish.

I just finished A Curious Beginning by Deanna Raybourn. That was my afternoon tablet read. Not sure where I learned about that series. Also not sure if I will read any more, but it certainly kept my interest, mostly because it was such a convoluted plot.

My sister gave me It's Not All Downhill From Here by Terry McMillan for Christmas. That is my next bed book, when I finish We Must Be Brave.

We are under a Winter Storm Warning here, with 4-6 inches of snow forecast to fall overnight, with some rain added to the mix towards tomorrow morning. We are busy charging all our devices, just in case the power goes off. We live in an area of overhead power lines, so heavy snow with ice on top is not a good forecast.

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« Reply #21999 on: December 29, 2020, 12:45:04 PM »
Yes, frybabe is on our minds as is George - frybabe's posts about his blood level is new information to me about the affects of covid

Ginny the link you shared is to an article that is so well written, so thorough, so informative it was a joy to read - I could get lost for hours exploring a page of calligraphy with the accompanying miniature illuminations - makes the few books written during the time before a printing press focused on a more serious subject - as much as I admire and take pleasure in seeing one of these pages I just cannot imagine the stories written many of our storytellers given the same artistic treatment. Now that would be fun - to imagine the miniature illuminations that could accompany some of our modern novels - I can to a degree but then it falls apart when I think of the handwork and the time involved so that the story really has to be something noble doesn't it...

Rosemary I wondered when I read in The Salt Path a reference to John Meade Falkner's Moonfleet if you had read it when you were young - the story suggested it was a book most young teens or pre-teens read and evidently Falkner's house is in one of the small towns on the trail. 

I could not put The Salt Path down - finished last night having started it in the early evening - the story of this 'walk', their lives getting through such complete and terrible losses is only a part of the story - botany, myths and legends, authors, scenic description, festivals, foods, homelessness, farming, sheep farming, changing use of land, the law as justice versus a system, winds, tide, streams, fish, good natured people and lets call them the grumpy rather than malicious people, poetry, entertaining by reading aloud, those who fear talking to someone who says they are homeless versus those who are curious and some who are helpful, how walking changes the body to feel better without drugs, quotes from classic stories, cities versus towns versus the rural versus the wild - on and on - all that and their ingenuity, courage - the various stages of grief that accompany more then personal loss but the loss of a home, the center of a family and how some take advantage of any weakness while others appear to help but their own needs force exploitation. Their attitude of soldiering on reminds me of how Britain handled life during and after WWII - There were so many aspects and topics included in this riveting story it is one of the very very few book I need to read a second time - there are many classics I've only read once and once was enough but this... I do not have the words to do it justice.
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