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« Reply #22280 on: March 12, 2021, 07:47:17 PM »

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« Reply #22281 on: March 12, 2021, 08:21:56 PM »
Since most of the city is up in arms about this and are looking to renew the ban on camping in Austin - and with various people checking hospital records - we do not show homeless as having either died or been hospitalized - to be tested for Covid it would be interesting to learn where they were tested since testing sites asked for information to be sure you were as Austin resident and there were no roving groups offering testing to anyone who stopped them -

We use local information to make decisions and now we at least have been able to secure on the May ballot the renewal or not, of the no-camping ordinance that this Mayor dismissed - We also have public information showing daily the number of those with Covid - the total number of deaths are shown for not only Travis, Hays and Williamson counties. that together bring the population to just over 2 million but also the 11 surrounding counties -

Had the numbers included any homeless the Save Austin Now PAC, or Save Austin Parks or Save Austin Now groups advocating to renew the no-camping ordinance would be all over it as one more reason to secure the health as well as the welfare of the city.

Also, as the news reported today anything on Youtube or facebook that does not agree with the official explanations for Covid or issues with the Covid vaccine were removed - the number of posts removed given was 30 thousand - looks like no freedom of information allowing folks to decide for themselves - We were aghast during our lifetime when we learned this was how our national enemy handled information - ouch

All any of us are doing is looking for ways to clean up the mess and to have only one way decided by a group in DC does shut the mouth of many knowledgeable doctors who have different experiences along with - we all learned today a neighbor who lives in Jester died from his 2nd Covid shot - so we have in the neighborhood one death from Covid and one death from the 2nd shot 

AS to sunshine killing the virus that we all read last summer and so it is certainly a treatment to consider - it does mean more technology rather than pharmaceuticals and like how we ended up with the current version of penicillin it may all come down to who has the money and power to make things happen - not that other treatments are wrong only they are not pursued based on profit and the cost to create the profit.   
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« Reply #22282 on: March 12, 2021, 09:39:01 PM »
 I don't live in Austin but this article,  unless I am mistaken,  appears to say that in Austin they haven't even counted the numbers of homeless, much less ascertained if they have had Covid or not. They have cancelled the count, is that what it says here?

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/04/texas-homeless-population-coronavirus/

Therefore since the numbers themselves of the homeless in Austin can only be guessed at, there is no reliable number of those suffering with Covid?

Not sure how useful that theory is then.

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« Reply #22283 on: March 13, 2021, 01:09:54 AM »
Hmm.  Guess I'll go back and cower in Science Fiction some more.

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« Reply #22284 on: March 13, 2021, 11:09:53 AM »
I have scrolled back to see which book I last talked about, but there was so much water under the bridge since then that I gave up - so I’m just here to say that this week I read John D Burns’ new book, Wild Winter, which will be published (in the UK at least) at the beginning of April.

John - whose The Last Hillwalker was one of my favourite books last year - decided to spend a winter learning more about the wildlife and other nature of the mountains he has so often climbed. He freely admits he was a total novice, and had never really paid much attention to anything but the climbing until now.

He spends a lot of time in bothies, and goes out looking for otters, pine martens, eagles, beavers, mountain hares and other threatened species. He rarely finds what he’s looking for, but he perseveres, and along the way enlists the help of people from Scottish Natural Heritage. He also goes on a one day wildlife cruise from the Isle of Mull, in the hope of seeing a whale for the first time. I have seen whales come into the bay outside St John’s in Newfoundland; they are amazing creatures.

John talks about the decimation of vast swathes of the Highlands in favour of shooting estates (on which deer are allowed to breed unchecked, and everything is done to protect the grouse - anything that may prey on them or eat their food is ruthlessly shot, just so that rich men can pay a fortune to shoot these very birds a few weeks later) and how this has led to the near extinction of mountain hares, and did lead to the total extinction of Scottish beavers, though they have now been reintroduced. It’s a similar story with sea eagles, though they have now been successfully reintroduced on the West coast and the islands. He discusses the conflicting interests of farmers and wildlife enthusiasts, and how SNH has done so much work on Tayside to bring everyone round the table re the proposed beaver project, as this is the only way it is going to succeed (the issues being that the beavers are very good indeed for flood management, but their actions tend to flood some of the most fertile riverside farming land too.)

As the winter moves on, there are rumours of a new virus coming from China. John gradually realises how much this is going to affect his outdoor life - by March 2020 lockdown has been imposed, and he is stuck in his flat in central Inverness, and only allowed to walk around the city. Bothys are all closed (he does understand why - these places are open to all comers, and everyone sleeps in the same room, with almost no facilities.)

It’s a short book and a wonderful read. It’s not without humour either, as John is periodically visited by his two old schoolfriends (who both feature in The Last Hillwalker) and longtime climbing companions, - one in particular is stuck in the 1970s, refusing to have a mobile phone, a computer or even a driving licence; he turns up in the Highlands having been on the packed train with his vast 1970s rucksack, sticking from the top of which is his ancient ice-pick. The train staff have refused to let him board, and eventually called the Transport Police. They seem to have been beaten into submission by Martin’s refusal to back down, as he has been allowed to continue on his way unhindered.

Although John does write quite a bit about the effects of climate change and poor land management on the Highlands & their wildlife, he manages to find some reasons to be optimistic. One new landowner, Dutchman Andres Povlsen (who was born in the Faroe Islands) bought Glen Feshie in 2006. He was going to use it as a shooting estate just like all the others, but the estate manager took him on a tour of his new property and told him all about ‘rewilding’ and other, better, ways to manage the estate. Amazingly, Povlsen not only listened but agreed, and now the estate is being used for other things, and nature is coming back. Also, on his pre-Covid travels John meets two separate young couples staying in the bothies. Both are hugely enthusiastic about respecting nature and rewilding the land, and are, he says, much more knowledgeable that he was at their age - he is encouraged to think that the younger generations will understand the need to protect and nurture nature and to repair all the wrongs we have inflicted.

What’s everyone else reading?

We’ve just had a great walk at the Forestry Commission land at Durris, with fabulous views right across Deeside and to the north. Hardly anyone there, whereas I know most of the National Trust for Scotland properties and various other better known places with be heaving already (and it’s not even Easter yet...that’s when all the tea rooms usually open).

My excitement for the coming week will be finally getting my first vaccination on Thursday, when it seems our entire area has been invited in. I have no hesitation whatsoever in getting vaccinated, I am just hugely grateful to all the scientists and medical staff who have made this possible.

Have a good weekend all!

Rosemary

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« Reply #22285 on: March 13, 2021, 11:24:31 AM »
That does sound like a good read.  It will be interesting to see if we can restore the planet before we destroy it.

I got my second shot a week ago.  One more week, and my immune system will have done whatever it's going to do to protect me.  I felt tired and washed out for a day after the first one, and somewhat more so after the second, but that's all--nothing alarming or uncomfortable.  I'll still have to do all the mask wearing and distancing, etc., but I'll be safer.

We lost another author: Norton Juster, who wrote The Phantom Tollbooth: Alice in Wonderland-like, but existing for the sake of its puns and wordplay.

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« Reply #22286 on: March 13, 2021, 11:44:36 AM »
Hi Pat

That’s great that you have had the second vaccination.  My friend (who is a consultant at the hospital) had her second one. She said she was very tired for a day after the 2nd one, but that’s all and she was fine after that. My son has also had both and said he only felt a bit tired - but then he is under 30!

I have told my husband I will likely be reclining on the sofa all day Friday and expect him to bring me little snacks of the highest standard. Hollow laughter ensued - I’ll be lucky if I get a glass of water (he is working from home.)

Rosemary

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« Reply #22287 on: March 13, 2021, 12:05:32 PM »
Still playing catch up, I'll combine two categories in the challenge, series and recommended books.  Some of the sci-fi series that Frybabe and I like were recommended to me.  The librarian where JoanK used to live brought John Scalzi's Old Men's War series to my attention.  I learned about Lee and Miller's Liaden Universe series (now on book 23) and Bujold's Miles Vorkosigan series (16 or 18 books before petering out) here, from Babi and Steph.  Babi was particularly a Liaden fan, and Steph liked Vorkosigan.

Not recommended by anyone: the Sherlock Holmes short stories and novels, which I read and reread several times as a child and young adult.  There was a time when it was hard to stump me on Holmes trivia.  It's been a long time, maybe time to take another look.

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« Reply #22288 on: March 13, 2021, 12:13:56 PM »
I tried to read Sherlock Holmes years ago. I was really keen to like these books, and fully expected that I would - but I could not get into them at all. I think I should probably try again - but as you say Lesa, so many books, so little time!

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« Reply #22289 on: March 13, 2021, 02:43:05 PM »
Speaking of short stories, yesterday I read Clifford D. Simak's Mr. Meeks-Musketeer. It was a fun read about a middle-aged accountant who saved to buy a space ship to visit an inhabited asteroid to see the inhabitants, a resident "monster" and a buried treasure he had read about.

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« Reply #22290 on: March 15, 2021, 07:45:13 PM »
It has been so long since I have been on here. Not even on Seniors and Friends either. Been such awful year. Has gone bye fast but I seem to have not done anything. I did get my shot number 2 3 weeks ago and in some way now I feel like I can get out and do a few things. We are not fully opened up in my area but it is getting better and they have plans next week to try and get the children back into school. Restaurants will open up and I do believe my library is going to try at the end of the month.
I do order my books on line (or I did). Went pretty much by what people on here and S and F saying what they have enjoyed reading.  Thing is the library have not ordered any new books for over a year now.  I have been reading some of the ones I have on my Ipad.  You don't find any by the writers we have know over the years. Some of the stories are bad but once in awhile one new writer does come up with a decent story.  I start doing other things around the house but it seems like I jump from ont thing to another.  (having a hard time doing housework as so much of the heavy stuff needs doing.) Need to get a cleaning and painting company in .
I do like to read on my Amazon Fire tablet and have a question if anyone else on here using one.  I like to read the pages just the way I read a regular book , changing the page from right to left. Mine is scrolling by bottom on up.  I don't like that.

I am going to go back in here now and see what books have been recommended  .

Hope you have all been well. Gotten your shots. Now able to see family. Mine are all hundreds of miles away and so will still be long time before any traveling. I had planned to go back to UK to see family last summer but that canceled. Looks like not to good for this year either. We have to have patience.

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« Reply #22291 on: March 16, 2021, 07:48:28 AM »
Hi JeanneP, great to see you here.

Okay, now for the Kindle settings. When you open your book, tap near the top or bottom of the page to bring up the icon bar. On the top icon bar, tap the Aa icon. It will bring up some settings for how you want your book to look. Tap on Layout. Make such the "continuous scrolling" is turned off. That should do it.

 

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« Reply #22292 on: March 16, 2021, 11:57:26 AM »
Hello, Jeanne! How nice to see you here again, we have missed you!

The  library situation being what it is, in different places in the country and world, it's good to have electronic devices, isn't it? Although I prefer a real book when possible.

We'll be interested to  hear what you have read!

Welcome back!

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« Reply #22293 on: March 16, 2021, 06:00:09 PM »
Hi, JeanneP, it's good to see you here again.  My year has gone much like yours--not much done.  The pandemic seems to suck the spirit out of things.  I've gotten both shots now too, but also won't see my family yet, as they're all on the other side of the country (Oregon and California) and flying seems too risky to me.

Libraries here are physically closed, but you can order books to borrow and pick them up curbside, then return them into drop boxes.  Returned books are quarantined for 48 hours before being reshelved.  And they do have ebooks.  Since I no longer drive, and haven't yet gotten into ebooks, none of this is useful to me, but my reading has slowed way down.

It does feel like things are getting more workable, and we're edging toward some kind of more normal setup.


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« Reply #22294 on: March 17, 2021, 09:56:00 AM »
 I've been reading about all the awards given to the female director of the movie Nomadland, and the movie itself, and I kept thinking, don't I have that book?   On the towering TBR pile?

And sure enough I do, it came out in hardback in 2017, the paperback in 2018  and I had it on kindle but had not read it (along with a lot of other good ones I should be reading) so last night I started it and now I wonder why it took me so long. It's something! It reminds me of Nickled and Dimed but it sort of opens up an entire new world I did not know was there.

The movie was inspired by some of the stories in it but the movie itself is not a documentary or so they say.   The book is certainly good enough to BE a documentary, it's non fiction,  about people over 65 making a living by living in cars, etc, and motoring to this or that job, living in the car or mini trailer or what have you. It's...kind of hard to describe.. I had no idea. I'm only about 1/4 of the way through  it. What surprises me the most so far  is the....industry..... that has grown up around it, and the manufacturers who are named who employ the help and the wages they are paying for it. And what they have to do for those wages. And what they do without.

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« Reply #22295 on: March 18, 2021, 11:24:47 PM »
I am reading on my phone because travelling again (hooray) A Room of Her Own.  Basically because it was a freebie, I never liked Virginia Woolf.  At first I found it irritating, her style I think, a bit affected,bound by her time and social class, but it is growing on me. She's funny, bitter, sarcastic....when she quotes opinions about womankind opined by prestigious men through history one can feel one's blood pressure start to rise.  A really super book to read in a book club of women I think.  Anyone interested?  Or maybe you've all read it already. 

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« Reply #22296 on: March 19, 2021, 04:41:00 AM »
I read it so long ago that I remember very little about it. Like you I’ve always found Woolf quite annoying. A podcast I listen to was recently discussing how she treated her servants, & she didn’t come out of it very well.

Having said that, I’d be interested in reading this book, though I think my copy is in Edinburgh, so I wouldn’t be able to get it till the first week in April.

Anyone else keen?

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« Reply #22297 on: March 20, 2021, 12:45:41 PM »
Rosemary, how did your shot turn out?

Gee, poor Virginia Woolf, I've never liked her,  either. hahahaa

But it looks like one could take some of the ideas she presents in the context she presents them and then and others could give their opinions? Sort of an ad hoc discussion?  Might be fun? A person could submit a statement they found interesting and give their opinion and others could give theirs?

I would be up for that, in April? Sort of an informal thing right here?

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« Reply #22298 on: March 20, 2021, 02:28:24 PM »
I like some of Virginia Woolf, particularly Orlando.Don't think I've read A Room of One's Own, but I'm willing to give it a try.  I'll start by looking to see if I have it.

Orlando is a surreal, time-traveling description of the life of Victoria Sackville-West, and it makes more sense if you know something about her.  There are some memorable scenes in it.  It was made into an excellent movie (Yikes, almost 30 years ago!) with Tilda Swinton doing a super job as Orlando, and Quentin Crisp doing a hilarious Queen Elizabeth I.

I think A Room of One's Own deals with what a woman needs to have a successful writing career--that is, a rather privileged woman, and the barriers that society provides.

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« Reply #22299 on: March 21, 2021, 06:50:24 AM »
Well, I think I have Orlando on my Kindle. I know nothing about it other than what you just posted. Never read Virginia Woolf,

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« Reply #22300 on: March 23, 2021, 09:42:24 AM »
Thank you for asking Ginny - the Aberdeen vaccination centre was really well organised (overstaffed IMO, but maybe they have busier times). The rather serious vaccinator lady did ask me if I had any 'concerns' about having the Oxford (Astrazeneca) vaccine (at that point there was some idea that it might cause blood clots) - I said since we were not to be offered a choice (which I think is fair enough) and I was very keen to be vaccinated, I knew I must take that chance. She then said she 'could discuss any concerns I had' - which to me seemed utterly pointless, as the 'concerns' had been all over every news outlet, social media, etc. Unless she was going to offer me the Pfizer one instead (as the centre does sometimes use that as well) I felt she might as well get on with it. I asked my NHS employee son about this afterwards, and he said they are just covering themselves, which I suppose must be the case.

Anyway, all these blood clot worries have now been sorted and the countries that did briefly stop using the Oxford one have started again. My daughter told me there is still a far higher chance of getting a blood clot from the contraceptive pilll than there is from the vaccine (why is this so after all these years and years of the pill's existence? perhaps because it only affects women? I was talking to a similar-age friend about this yesterday and we were both remembering how cavalier we had been to take the pill as soon as we left home - goodness only knows what risks we were taking, but at that age and stage the only thing we were worried about was getting our freedom while making sure we wouldn't end up pregant. Neither of us remember being told about the risks, but that's not to say we weren't - we probably just would not have listened.

So I had the vaccine fine. I did feel flu-ey the next day, but had been warned about that. Paracetamol was all it needed, and one day of being less than 100% is a small price to pay in my opinion. I was fine by the day after. My husband gets his this Friday. Prepare for Major Fuss alert over the weekend ;D

I'd be happy to do A Room of One's Own during April.  I warn you in advance that it will bring out my most socialist tendencies - but Woolf, like her or loathe her, is an important person in literary history, so it'd be good to discuss what she says.

Rosemary

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« Reply #22301 on: March 23, 2021, 09:51:34 AM »
THERE you are!  I was beginning to worry, not about clots, but some people DO have general reactions to all of the vaccines,  but am glad to hear you are OK!

I've heard the Pfizer causes the worst reactions, flu like symptoms and fever in some people lasting a day but some folks (these are all people I know) who had somewhat debilitating  health problems going in have had protracted issues with the Pfizer 2nd shot. But in every case I know  of it's people who already had ongoing heath issues and had a reaction the first time, too.

The part I still don't quite understand is when they do have these reactions they are told it's their excellent immune system as a result of the first shot and I still don't know what the rest of us are to think who only had a slight fatigue the day after the 2nd shot.

Does that mean our own immune system is shot if we don't have a reaction? I feel somehow marginalized.

 Unfortunately on that day of fatigue after the first Moderna shot,  I had to go down about my new car in person to take the registration  papers the Auditors (Tax) office wanted and to pay the tax on it. They strongly urged, over the phone, despite the pandemic, it would be best if I brought it in person rather than otherwise.  They insisted there was no crowd. HA!!!!  So there I went and at the end of that excursion and all the excitements it brought I felt 100 percent better, so I thought this last time (2 weeks ago) for the 2nd shot if I got that fatigue reaction again, I'd go out and do something as it did me a world of good.

SO glad you are OK! In this day and time when people disappear, one does worry.






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« Reply #22302 on: March 23, 2021, 11:43:31 AM »
The day of my second Moderna shot, and the day after, were the days that my old furnace/boiler and water heater were removed and replaced with a new combination unit, so the night between, I slept in a cooling house, and all the day after there were three plumbers banging away in the basement, occasionally joined by two gas company employees.  I spent most of the day curled up on the couch under a blanket, occasionally answering questions from the men.

It's a little hard to assign cause to the fatigue that day; I'm guessing 50-50 vaccine and chaos.

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« Reply #22303 on: March 23, 2021, 11:47:52 AM »
If you look at the blood clot numbers, it's 4 or 5 cases in a huge number, I think several million--hardly a serious chance of trouble no matter what the cause.

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« Reply #22304 on: March 24, 2021, 11:30:55 AM »
Entirely agree with you Pat - a lot of fuss about nothing IMO.

Ginny - a BBC journalist in his thirties had a very strong reaction to the vaccine and felt ill and was even vomiting for three days. He was fine after that and he was not worried, and was still glad he had the vaccine, but he decided to investigate the causes of these reactions, and the fact that some people had none at all.  He spoke with a doctor who is a specialist in this area - she told him that tests have shown that it makes not a jot of difference whether you experience symptoms after being vaccinated or not - you still acquire very similar levels of immunity.  It seems younger people are far more likley to feel ill after it, and most older people don't notice anything at all, but the older people still get the same benefits, which is of course good.

I suppose the only comfort I can take away from this is that I must still have some 'young' person in me somwhere!

Rosemary

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« Reply #22305 on: March 24, 2021, 11:54:06 AM »
And to return to books, I forgot to say that I have just finished reading Divided City by Theresa Breslin.

It is a young adult book set in Glasgow, and the two main characters are Joe, a Catholic teenager who lives with his widowed father in a very Catholic, working class, area of the city, and Graham, a Protestant boy living with his middle class professional parents in a similarly Protestant area.  Joe has a huge extended family and knows just about everyone in the neighbourhood. His father (his mother has died) is a highly educated man who takes no sides in sectarian issues, but many of his other realations hold very strong views. Graham's parents also keep well out of it, but his grandfather, with whom he attends every Rangers game, is a lifelong Orangeman who takes part in the Orange walks every summer and now wants Graham to take his place beside him.

In case people are unaware, football plays a huge part in Glasgow's sectarianism - Rangers are the Protestant team, Celtic the Catholic one. They are almost always at the top of every football league, and matches between the two sides are called Old Firm games. They are notorious for trouble, and are heavily policed.

The story begins with Graham coming upon an illegal immigrant boy who has just been stabbed by a group of racist thugs. Graham and Joe, who of course attend different schools (these are also either Catholic or Protestant in Glasgow) but who have met in a youth football team, both end up getting involved in the injured boy's story.

I read this book as I needed to find something set in Glasgow for the next Six Degrees of Separation challenge - the 'starter' book is Shuggie Bain, which has just won the Booker but which sounds too depressing for me to contemplate reading (it's about a young boy growing up in poverty in Glasgow with an alcoholic mother). You (fortunately) don't have to read the first book, but the idea is to link five more books to it - each book has only to link to the one that precedes it. So I had to find something for the first link and the only themes I could think of were Glasgow, alcoholism or poverty!  I like to have read my 5 books, and I couldn't think of anything that fitted these themes. I googled 'books set in Glasgow' and oh my goodness, just about everything ever written about it is similarly depressing, miserable, violent, etc. I don't know why, as although Glasgow has always had a much rougher image than Edinburgh, it also has a rich cultural life - art, music, etc - and its West End is very smart.  (There's an opening for a Glaswegian author there!) I really could not face reading something grim, so I found Divided City languishing on my shelves - must have bought it years ago - and decided to try that.

I felt Breslin did a good job - I learned a lot from this book about the issues that divide the communities, how these arose and why people still cling to them, and the story was good at showing both sides of the picture.  Here on the east coast, where none of this is relevant (we have our own football issues...) we tend to think the Catholics in Glasgow are the downtrodden good guys, and the Prots are 100% bad (and I am not a Catholic by the way) but Breslin made you appreciate that both communities have their problems. I do think the Orange Walks are very inflammatory and unnecessary, but a small part of Glasgow (and a large part of Northern Ireland) feels very strongly about them.

I've also just read - for Reading Ireland Month - A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Girl, in which nine Irish writers recall their childhoods. These were originally a series of interviews on RTE radio in 1985. The writers include Molly Keane (who grew up in just the kind of affluent, hunting, shooting Anglo-Irish family about which she writes in some of her novels), Maeve Binchy, Mary lavin, Edna O'Brien, Dervla Murphy and Joan Lingard.   I enjoyed this collection very much.

Next month is our 6 monthly 'year' book club, when everyone who wants to reads a book from a chosen year. This time it will be 1936. I was going to choose Gone with the Wind but I now discover that London daughter has snaffled my copy (and also that it is 900+ pages long...) so I will probably do Noel Streatfeild's Ballet Shoes if I can find my copy of that. Fortunately 1936 seems to have been a big year for publishing so there is quite a bit of choice.

Rosemary

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« Reply #22306 on: March 24, 2021, 03:49:15 PM »
I haven't read any more of A Room of One's Own but would be game to get back to it in April.  I kept thinking there was a movie of it and wondering how there possibly could be that was even watchable, but I was thinking of something else (now I can't remember the name of THAT) but I just found out that there was a BBC drama in 1991 with Eileen Atkins.  I wonder if that is at all watcheable......

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« Reply #22307 on: March 24, 2021, 10:28:27 PM »
......so I started to watch it on u tube. Only the part I have read. Eileen Atkins is superb, she brings Virginia to life.  A bit heavy going but probably that's because I'd just been watching Rake...
....but I could feel my indignation rising, just like it did while I was reading, but much earlier.  I shall definitely pursue this, the book and the movie, together, in small doses....

( the movie I was thinking of was of-course A Room with a View.)

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« Reply #22308 on: March 25, 2021, 12:11:27 PM »
My book arrived yesterday, and I hope to get started on it today.

Dana, for easily watchable Virginia Woolfe, you can't beat Orlando, if it's available.  Whatever you think of the story, it's a beautiful, lush, job of filming.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #22309 on: March 25, 2021, 01:19:28 PM »
Goodness, Rosemarykaye, I haven't thought of Streatfield's "Shoes" books for years.  I loved them when I was growing up, and bet I'd still like them now.

You're right about 1936--all sorts of good books, especially if you're a mystery fan.  Agatha Christie (3), Erle Stanley Gardner (2), Josephine Tey, Dorothy L. Sayers, Margery Allingham, Rex Stout, Ellery Queen, Ngaio Marsh.  There are several P. G. Wodehouse, a John Buchan (not one of his best), George Orwell, and for young people, Arthur Ransome, Caddie Woodlawn (a pioneering story), and Ferdinand the Bull.

Not much in sci-fi/fantasy though, unless you like H. P. Lovecraft.  His horror doesn't work for me; just seems silly.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #22310 on: March 26, 2021, 08:44:17 AM »
Ok, it looks like, to me, that we're game to try this new thing, and we can add "in small doses," as Dana puts it (I am half afraid now to try it but it looks like there WILL be reactions, which is what we want, and talking about issues, and  we're to combine,  if we like,  and can get our hands on it, the movie as well).

OK!  Let's aim at TAX DAY (or what WAS Tax Day) April 15?

I don't have the book yet.  Dana, can you give us your idea of what "small doses" would be? I'm saying yes let's do it in small doses, and somebody tell ME what the small doses are, book wise and movie wise? Just to start? So I can kind of be prepared?

WILL watching Eileen Atkins in the movie influence us unduly? I don't know anybody who doesn't like Eileen Atkins, but maybe there is somebody. Will she and her performance influence us one way or the other? I think I'll read whatever small dose you say first and THEN look at her performance, since movies and film tend to blow me away, I see so few?

Does this sound a plan or not or tweak it or whatever? I need time to get the book and see whatever part of the film version I can first?

OR?

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Re: The Library
« Reply #22311 on: March 26, 2021, 08:46:29 AM »
 I mean next Thursday is April Fool's Day? That's a bit soon? Or not? Somebody say. I'll order it today and go on what you all think.

WHEN can everybody start?
WHAT is the first small dose?

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Re: The Library
« Reply #22312 on: March 26, 2021, 10:33:32 AM »
Ginny, I think 15th April is a good idea. I will retrieve my copy next Wednesday when I go to Edinburgh. It is not, so far as I can recall, a long book.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #22313 on: March 26, 2021, 11:10:33 AM »
The work itself is 112 pages in my copy.  This is padded out with 53 pages of preface, chronology, and introduction, plus 36 pages of notes and suggested further reading.  Perhaps a few of the notes identifying people will be useful.

I could start anytime after the perfume airs out of the new book, probably just a day or two; it's notary strong.  Whenever anyone wants.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #22314 on: March 26, 2021, 12:48:32 PM »
April 15th is fine for me, or anytime, really.
I have it on my phone so the pages might be smaller, but there are 6 chapters round about 50 to 60 phone pages each.  Plus an introduction by a Mary Gordon who is a present day professor of English at Barnard College.  I am on Chapter 4 right now.  The book was originally a couple of lectures she gave and the movie is Atkins as Woolf giving the lecture so its easy to just watch as much as you want at a time.  I personally  would not watch bits of it before I read them in the book, but I found it pleasant and revealing, really, to watch it after reading because for me it made the book better.  Funnier, more caustic I guess. In the book to start with she kind of came across as whiney, to me,.... in the movie, as sarcastic (much better!!)







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Re: The Library
« Reply #22315 on: March 27, 2021, 10:54:48 AM »
This is great. I'm impressed by the books you have and the additional material, etc. There actually does not seem to be much available on Amazon, there's a new reprint of an old one which looks great but it won't be out till April 25, so I went with the 99 cent Kindle one and will have to rely on what you have in your books for background. I started it but I need to know how many pages we will actually  start with. If there are 6 chapters would a chapter to start be good or do we need 2?

I started to read it and am wondering why I disliked her so much but I may be about to find out. OR maybe age will put a new slant on it?

Looking forward to it!


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Re: The Library
« Reply #22316 on: March 27, 2021, 12:27:51 PM »
I think a chapter a time is enough, she does go on a bit (just my feeling I know......!!)

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Re: The Library
« Reply #22317 on: March 27, 2021, 06:10:37 PM »
  Great! Thank you! A chapter it is, then! I'll see if Jane can get up a Newsline for it next week and maybe we can attract some others.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #22318 on: March 30, 2021, 08:16:08 AM »
Having never read but one Bronte sister novel (Jane Eyre), I have just started The Tenant of Windfell Hall by Jane Bronte. I haven't gotten to the novel itself yet, but the intro is very interesting. The author of the intro said that this book initially sold more books than Jane Eyre and Wuthering Heights. Also, the book seems partly based on Jane's experience tutoring and has something to do with brother Branwell. Apparently something happened while she was tutoring at the same place as Branwell and something happened which greatly disturbed her but never spoke of. I am looking forward to getting into the story itself.

Almost finished listening to a short book authored and read by Michael Pollan called Caffeine: How It Created the Modern World. 

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Re: The Library
« Reply #22319 on: April 01, 2021, 07:45:40 AM »
Ginny, I finally got around to downloading the first of Colleen McCullough's Masters of Rome series. I started it last evening.

The Tenant of Windfell Hall
is beginning well. I finished the first chapter so far.

The newest listen is called METAtropolis which is five  short stories by scifi authors written on a collaborative theme, the urban future. The authors are  Elizabeth Bear, Tobias Buckell, Jay Lake, Karl Schroeder, and John Scalzi who is the project editor. Scalzi tells a little about how the project came about and introduces each story.

Speaking of Elizabeth Bear, I tried reading her book, Ancestral Night, but soon sent it back to the library. I probably didn't give it enough time, but it just didn't interest me. I got really "turned off" when the main characters came upon a supposed derelict that appeared to be an illegal drug lab.