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ALF43

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3560 on: January 03, 2011, 12:44:29 PM »

The Library



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We look forward to hearing from you, about you and the books you are enjoying (or not).


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mabel1015j

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3561 on: January 03, 2011, 12:49:19 PM »
Speaking of children reading, are any of your grandchildren reading "The Wimpy Kid Diaries" series? My 8 yr old gson has not been much of a reader, but he got one of those at the school library and is hooked! He read the first one over and over.  So, he got the seven book series for Christmas. There is an older "bullying" brother......i guess that is typical among siblings - i was 8 yrs younger than my closest sibling, so i was almost an only child growing up - but that character disturbs me. I've noticed that all of the "tween" tv shows that he watches have the kids being mean to each other. I point that out to him when he's here and he's a very polite/kind kid, but it disturbs me that kids are seeing so much of that. I blame Archie Bunker for bringing that to tv..... :D.....i laughed at the Bunkers and Norman Lear tackled some great issues, but no one did the name-calling of others before AB. Now it's so common in the situation comedies. Wives demean husbands and vice versa, and adults wonder why there is so much bullying???......jean 

kiwilady

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3562 on: January 03, 2011, 01:22:43 PM »
I was getting confused with Homer! However I did perchance pick up James Joyces book in the library years ago. I am a speed reader and can often flick through a book and know if I like the style. I don't really like James Joyce. It seems you either love him or hate him from what I keep hearing. He does have his real fanatical following. I guess that is the same for most authors who have written books that have been so acclaimed.

Some people hate our acclaimed author Janet Frame but I have always enjoyed her books even though many think they are dark.

Carolyn

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« Reply #3563 on: January 03, 2011, 01:28:13 PM »
Oh GREAT points on reading here. I love all the thoughts expressed, so individualistic, like their owners, love it.

Readers are normally opinionated (because they think a lot) and I love the cordiality we find here when so many different styles come together.  I especially like this one:  Janice, here no one is judgmental. Everyone reads what they want because they enjoy reading. We don't have to defend our choices.

That's the truth! Well said, Mary. And Jane. And everybody!

I would hate to have to defend my awful taste, would you believe I stayed up last night to see Jerseylicious? Now I'm willing to bet NONE of you watched that thing, am I right?

We can be ourselves here, warts and all, and it's true our areas like Mystery and Fiction have posts where people will find like spirits and reading tastes, I like this one too for the diversity alone! Inquiring minds off on many different tangents. A rare thing to find.

Janice, did you say you were reading Room? How IS it? The NY Times actually carried on a good bit about it, and I have been  wavering getting it, now, thanks to our forums here I can find out: IS it too spooky/ strange, odd/  or is it good?

MaryPage, yesterday's Book Reviews of the NY Times takes up  Wait for Me! hahaha

I mean I feel so lucky. Just today in one Latin class I was rereading Shakespeare's  "I shall see thee at Philippi" that bit when Brutus has to confront his own demons, and then in  Plutarch.  I see something different in it every time I read it, Shakespeare was a genius.  You just don't get better than that, you really don't.  In Latin 300 we just read Publilius Syrus (1st century BC) who said "A  greedy man  himself is the cause of his own misery, " and all I could think of was Bernie Madoff, golly moses. But you don't have to be rich to be greedy, do you? Or is greed always the beginning of riches?

 Still reading  The Lodger, which just had  a huge NON PC thing in it due I guess to its being written so long ago but it's the only one so far and I'm almost finished.  I must say it's scaring me to death. Not the first mention of anything bloody, I don't even know how the victims were killed, no description of the actual murders, nothing,  no CSI, no romance unless you count the old couple whose house the lodger lives in as a romance, (is it?) I love the book.  How they could write in the "old days," it's the best thing I've read in a long time.  So reminds me of The Monkey's Paw, do any of you remember that one?

That's another oldie but goodie it's hard to beat and there are lots of them.

That said, I've never liked James Joyce or Henry  James for that matter,  everybody's taste is their own. Never could finish  Fitzgerald's Great Gatsby (I know, I know), and absolutely hated Cooper. I mean to this day I don't want to hear James Fennimore   Cooper's name. I bet others here are big fans?

But I applaud anybody who  tries  any of them, that shows  to me great attitude. A man's reach should exceed his grasp or what's a heaven for?

Let's all learn something new in the new year and come in and say what it was, let's tie it into books of some/ any kind.

And as far as what a big help the readers are here to me, I've just gotten The Help, which subject wise would never have  appealed to me, because of the remarks here, and I am looking forward to it.

How DO you choose a book to read? Or should that read how do YOU choose a book to read?

Love it!  Happy 10th Day of Christmas if you celebrate it and Happy New Year if you don't. :)

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« Reply #3564 on: January 03, 2011, 01:55:24 PM »
To me   Joyce's " Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man"  is the most beautiful piece of writing that I ever read and i really found it hard to believe that the same person who wrote it could have written that other garbage that he wrote which is supposed to be so great..

I feel the same about Hemingway....  His "A Moveable Feast"  is wonderful but  so much of his writng leaves cold...Ginny I agree with you about Fenimore Cooper...just cannot read his books... I hate Moby Dick and most everyting that Melville wrote..he was just gross... Oh well so much for my reading habits...would you believe that one of my majors in College was literature...when I dislike lots
of it so much...LOL  Joan Grimes
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Re: The Library
« Reply #3565 on: January 03, 2011, 02:21:27 PM »
CubFan  wrote:
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One of my concerns as a school librarian was when adults (parents/teachers) would try to channel the reading of children - concerned if they were reading too many sports/horses/babysitters club etc. To me what they were reading wasn't important. They were reading. I think we drive people away from reading when we make them think that what they are reading isn't of value. Reading should be enjoyable. Yes, expose them to good literature through the curriculum but leave the recreational reading alone.


AMEN from another retired Librarian!


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« Reply #3566 on: January 03, 2011, 02:40:45 PM »
I am still reading Kate Edward's The Lake of Dreams. I can see similarities between this book and some of Carol Goodman's in that this book is set in NY lake country and involves a family mystery. The title of the book even reminded me of Goodman's The Lake of Dead Languages. In Edward's book, the title refers to a town named Lake of Dreams. Unlike Goodman's books, this is a straight out sifting through clues to ferret out a piece of family history no one seems to know anything about. No back and forth between fairy tales or family history and current time repeating or paralleling itself. Like one of Goodman's books (I think The Drowning Tree, stained glass windows play a prominent part. The ancestor in question was involved in the woman's suffrage movement. She (Rose) and her daughter (Iris) were blotted out of the family history. The prose does not quite have the flow of Goodman's writing, but it is still very good. I am about half way through.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3567 on: January 03, 2011, 02:41:57 PM »
Jean - yes my younger grandson is into the Wimpy Kid books and he struggles with his reading so I'm glad he' s interested in them. My daughter doesn't care for them but is just glad he's reading.

He is the smallest kid in the fourth grade at his school (of about 125 kids in 4th grade) so he knows all about bullying. I agree with the meanness portrayed all over TV.  Just had a discussion with my son in law about bullying and the schools' efforts to combat it but I see it as a cultural issue that is going to take a concerted effort for a couple of generations to change the thinking - just like equal rights applied to ethnic, gender and other groups. As long as we have adults that either bully or accept being bullied and let their children think it's part of life we have a long road ahead of us.  And now with cyber bullying things are really out of hand.

I too laughed at Archie when he was on in the 70's and appreciated his addressing the social issues which  got  people to talking. Now when I see a rerun I don't find him funny at all. Somehow we need to find a way to have humor without hurting others.  I can't disconnect the topic being addressed in the individual episode and his continual verbal abuse of Edith and his son in law throughout the series.

How tragic that the old saying "stick and stones may break by bones but words will never harm me" was taught to so many. 

As with so many things, about all we can do is lead by example.   Oh boy!!!

Mary
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Re: The Library
« Reply #3568 on: January 03, 2011, 06:30:02 PM »
My 9 yr old grandson is also one that doesn't like to read, but he loves (& even requested) the Diary books.  He also likes Captain Underpants.  I just applaud the fact that he has found something he will willingly read! 

Somehow I lost my earlier post, so I am going to try again.  For the last couple of years I have been keeping a list of the books I've read and rating them from 1-10 with 10 being the best.  So far, no 1's or 2's (unless it's a book club selection, I don't finish those) and no 10's.  I am currently reading 3 books:  Little Bee for book club, A Northern Light by Jennifer Donnelly for ftf book club, and Hotel on the Corner of Bitter & Sweet--several of you here recommended it.

My best books for 2010 are as follow starting with the best & working down.  Most of them are not too deep or "classic", but I enjoyed them.

The Book Thief by Zusak, Roses by Meacham, The Help by Stockett, South of Broad by Conroy, Sweet Grass by Mary Alice Monroe, Baking Cakes in Kilgali by Parkin, Saving Cee Cee Honeycut by Hoffman, Crowning Glory of Calla Lily Ponder by Rebecca Wells, Whiter than Snow by Dallas, Hearts of Horses by Gloss, The Four Seasons by Monroe, and Winter Garden by Kristin Hannah.

Most of these were light.  Like Steph, since by husband died, I chose not to read books than are too dark, or scary!

What were your favorites?
Sally

kiwilady

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« Reply #3569 on: January 03, 2011, 07:01:57 PM »
I quite like Dapphne Du Maurier. Dapphne has written a couple of books I enjoyed. I picked up a dilapidated copy of Hungry Hill in hard back and enjoyed it. Her most popular books I liked but some of her less popular works I liked better than the more well known ones.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3570 on: January 03, 2011, 10:05:23 PM »
I always come here for ideas on what to read next. The frank opinions on this and that book generally turn out to be pretty reliable. So, after the third or fourth reference to it, I went looking for The Lodger. I knew I had it somewhere in the house. I found it buried away in my attic. So, here goes, Ginny. You've got me started on it. What a charming style.

Mrs. Belloc Lowndes is a writer of some interest. Along with her Lodger, I found her A Passing World. First World War period and later. She seems to have known many celebrities in society and politics. Here's a chapter on Shaw, the great G.B.S. I can't resist quoting from it:

I was twenty-four when I first met Bernard Shaw....My heart warmed to the fair, emaciated-looking critic, for he was intensely Irish, and I loved Ireland....Mr. Shaw's personal appearance has altered very little in over fifty years. As is true now, his manner was easy and pleasant, and he enjoyed giving shrewd useful advice to any young fellow-writer.

...I remember hearing of Shaw's marriage, which took place two years after mine, with sympathy and interest. I hope that when what may be called Bernard Shaw's official biography comes to be written, it will be made plain how much of his success he owed to his wife.

...His marriage was certainly the best thing that had ever happened to Bernard Shaw. It made a sensation in Shaw's world, for though he was what may be called an innocent philanderer, his marriage to Charlotte Payne-Townshend took his friends completely by surprise. Even those who thought they knew him intimately had felt convinced he would never marry.

...I believe it to be true that on their marriage Mr. and Mrs Bernard Shaw agreed to lead an odd and unconventional  life. Thus, during the greater part of the year, he was to go on living in his rooms in Adelphi Terrace, and she in her house which I think was somewhere near Regent's Park. They arranged, however, to spend the summer months together. But Mrs Shaw was so agreeable a person, and so excellent  a housekeeper, that soon their partings became fewer and fewer, and in the end they lived as do an ordinary married couple who love one another. Shaw was also attached to Mrs. Shaw's relations, and, as is known, it was for her sister that he wrote The Intelligent Woman's Guide to Socialism and Capitalism.


Who ever heard of anything like this? He had to be broken in gently! On the other hand, if they lived happily ever after, perhaps it showed great Shavian wisdom.

The Lodger was published in 1913. A Passing World, in 1948.

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« Reply #3571 on: January 04, 2011, 06:10:38 AM »
What a lovely story abut GBS and his wife. I have read a lot of his stuff, but did not know anything about his marriage. Fun to find that he was slow to understand the joys of marriage.
I am back on my sci fi kick just now. Just finished Lord and Ladies by Terry Pratchett.. I suspect that I ended up cackling just like my much loved witches.
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« Reply #3572 on: January 04, 2011, 08:54:01 AM »
Jean and Mary, I agree strongly with your observations about incivility on TV.  All of my life, and I mean that quite literally, have cringed at any sort of public display of rudeness whatsoever.  Hated slapstick.  Could not bear to see pies thrown in faces.  Hid my head from technicolor cartoons showing the cat chasing the canary (Tweetie Bird?) and getting smashed by a humongous flatiron from a cliff.  (How was it such like were always immediately resurrected to continue the murderous chase?  Was this, in itself, not a bad lesson?  Would this not tend to give the bully a sense of invincibility?)

Rudeness breeds rudeness.  Manners bring on respectful treatment.  My elders used to say:  "Monkey see, monkey do!"  Heard that until I was sick of it!  Well, they were right;  and this is probably also the reason my inside-the-brain-fleeting-snapshots always link uncivil behavior to the close relationship of the perpetrators to the family of Ape!

Loved Cooper in the 7th grade.  Doubt I would care for him one little speck today.  Loved Moby Dick in High School, but felt edgy about it, as well.  Still don't like Joyce, though on my present quest, and also did not like James.  James just too, too depressing.  Don't think I would have liked to have shared a meal with him.  Now Shakespeare!  His observations re the human condition have never been improved upon.  The Ancient Greeks wrote beautifully of the foibles and faults of mankind;  to read them is to read about our society right here in 2011!  Sigh!  We just do not IMPROVE, to my great dismay.

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« Reply #3573 on: January 04, 2011, 09:18:05 AM »
Oh I can't resist this one. Yesterday was Cicero's birthday and in the  Classics Bulletin Board there's a nice write up on him and this quote:


"Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents and everyone is writing a book."

I mean could you date that one? hahaha He's sooo right about everyone is writing a book. I feel odd not writing one, actually, when I see who has, hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Frybabe

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« Reply #3574 on: January 04, 2011, 09:32:00 AM »
Jonathan, I am going to have to pull my GBS biography off the shelf. I don't remember anything about his wife. GBS was a very interesting character as was Picasso. I read biographies of both about the same time. GBS hated dancing, thought it was degrading. On the other hand, Picasso loved dancing. Your quote reminded me of how quirky I thought both were.

Ginny, what a riot. Cicero did come up with some good ones, didn't he? A non-stop talker, he was. I wonder what he would be saying today, probably the same things. I am thinking of the quote from Ecclesiastes 1:9:

   What has been will be again,
   what has been done will be done again;
   there is nothing new under the sun.

kiwilady

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3575 on: January 04, 2011, 01:12:38 PM »
I am considered to be extremely odd as I rarely watch TV.  I cannot bear the crass reality programs. (Send shudders down my spine because of the callous competition in these programs and also because of the language used) If there is a good doco I will watch that. I saw Johnanna Lumley in a documentary which showed her journeying to the source of the Nile through many interesting countries. This doco was on a couple of days ago.

Give me a book any day. When I am tired its an audio book.

Carolyn

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« Reply #3576 on: January 04, 2011, 01:38:16 PM »
I watched a book interview with Michael Capuzzo talking about his book The Murder Room. His interview was interesting, so I thought take a look at it. Most of the reviews I read say that the book is poorly written, "disjointed", "scattered". That's a shame because the subject matter is interesting, the Vidocq Society and it's members. The Vidocq Society began as an informal gathering of colleagues interested in solving cold cases. The name references France's famed sleuth, EugeÌÇne Vidocq, who was the model for Sherlock Holmes. According to the author, he took seven years to write the book. You would think with that amount of time he would have done a better job of organizing and smoothing the flow of the book. Regrettably, I think I will pass on reading it.

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« Reply #3577 on: January 04, 2011, 04:56:49 PM »
I'm so with you about slapstick comedy....hated it.....and didn't like the Martin and Lewis movies bcs they made such a dunce of Jerry Lewis' characters and treated him so badly.

Perhaps there's an answer as to "why" given in this article abt why women read more (we love are exceptional men here in SL ........Jonathan)
 :)  ;)

http://www.npr.org/tablet/#story/?storyId=14175229

If i'm remembering correctly, Margaret Sanger had an affair w/ GBS. She went to him to learn abt the birth control movement in England..........also, was it Mary Woolestoncraft or Her dgt Mary Shelly - i blv it was Shelly - who she and her husband had separate houses on the same block.....i've often tho't that's not a bad idea........sort of a "room of one's own" enlarged. :'(

Jean
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« Reply #3578 on: January 04, 2011, 05:53:21 PM »
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had separate houses on the same block.....i've often tho't that's not a bad idea........sort of a "room of one's own" enlarged.

Jean, that is what George and I did, more or less. We discovered when we were living together that we both needed lots of space. He has his house across the river, and I have mine. We see each other every day when he is not out of town. and we talk on the phone more than once a day, not to mention passing stuff back and forth via e-mail. He always seems to feel the need to have somewhere to go. So, I am one of his go to places, not a place to leave from. It works out well.

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« Reply #3579 on: January 04, 2011, 06:01:52 PM »
Jonathan, I also meant to say,  but Cicero blew me away, how much I enjoyed your quotes of Mrs. Belloc Lowndes, isn't that fascinating?

Had you read The Lodger before? I am sure I have, years ago, but I don't remember it.  I am pretty amazed  at what she does in it, how far are you in it  before I blurt this or that out?

Your house must be a treasure chest of old and interesting books, you're forever pulling out some fabulous thing off a shelf or this time in the attic. I remember especially in the Ghandi you had no end of interesting books to consult.






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« Reply #3580 on: January 05, 2011, 01:10:59 AM »
Thanks for the encouragement.  I'll lurk a while longer.

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« Reply #3581 on: January 05, 2011, 06:01:20 AM »
I have always believed that men are the one who love slapstick...I know I could never ever understand the lure of the Three Stooges. I dont watch reality shows at all. They are glorifying the worst kind of humans.. i dont like violence or any type and since the accident it has gotten  worse. I watch very little tv.. belong to netflix and can pick and choose on there.Mostly old tv series.
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« Reply #3582 on: January 05, 2011, 09:48:42 AM »
I think I'm in an "Ostrich head in the sand" syndrome lately.  I just don't care about who's in rehab, who's out of rehab, who's going into rehab or who should be in rehab; I don't care who survived whatever awful thing on some reality show; or, for the gazillionth time, what stupid thing someone did somewhere that is now being replayed to death on the "News"...ie, the Navy Capt at the moment and his videos. The News channels seem to run out of "items" and so replay the same items ad nauseum.

Give me my books, my Nook, and my laptop and let the world go on turning without me.


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« Reply #3583 on: January 05, 2011, 01:20:04 PM »
Consider me a member of your club, Jane.  Reality shows don't glean any play-time on my TV.  I will make one small exception: Amazing Race.  I hate the in-fighting between the contestants, but love seeing the foreign places and parts of the culture there.  I usually don't even see the whole season, just watch when I know it's down to 3 or 4 couples!  So I do miss some of the places they have to visit.
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Re: The Library
« Reply #3584 on: January 05, 2011, 01:26:40 PM »
Am inhabiting precisely the same world as you!

Except for caring a little worrisomely about the crows falling dead out of the skies in Arkansas and Louisiana and the fish kill just about everywhere.  Hope these are not ominous portents for the species of homo sapiens, which I have never felt deserving of the sapiens part of the label.

We have just experienced another enormous fish kill here in the Chesapeake.  From the Bay Bridge south past Tangier Island.  Hard to take, considering 70% of these here waters are already a "dead zone."

But no, I pay no attention whatsoever to what the trashier segments of our society are up to.  Quite simply cannot fathom their life-style.

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« Reply #3585 on: January 05, 2011, 01:41:46 PM »
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We have just experienced another enormous fish kill here in the Chesapeake.

Gee, MaryPage, I heard there had been more fish kills, but I didn't catch where.

They are saying that the autopsies of the red-winged blackbird kill showed they suffered blunt trauma - maybe from a hail storm? 5,000 is a lot of birds to lose at once.

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« Reply #3586 on: January 05, 2011, 02:05:38 PM »
Frybabe - are you and George "married" or a couple? I remember seeing a tv show where they were talking to a "senior" couple who had been married and just could no longer live together. Since they had divorced, they were best friends. They had one car between them and they had breakfast together each morning, would go to the gym together and then whomever needed the car wld take the other one home.........they seemed very happy.....jean

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« Reply #3587 on: January 05, 2011, 02:11:44 PM »
As usual, I'm with you, jane!

MaryPage, I hadn't heard about the Chesapeake Bay fish kill.  We went to an Elderhostel (the last before the name change) in September 2009 at Crisfield, MD, and loved our visit to Tangier Island.
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« Reply #3588 on: January 05, 2011, 02:24:17 PM »
Jean, we are not married, but we lived together in tiny college housing for a number of years. I've known George for over 20 years now. I am an "official" family member and go to his family reunions almost every year. He joins us at my sister's house for dinner, often. When time and schedules permit, we go on day trips. There is no lack of conversational topics between us ranging from history and politics to cats and computers. I just adore the guy.

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« Reply #3589 on: January 05, 2011, 02:36:15 PM »
I finally finished Below the Salt , Bel Canto and Storm Track, a Judge Knott mystery which i read in one day. Bel Canto was a very interesting premise - 50 persons are taken hostage in an unnamed S America country. Being taken out of their usual roles and schedules, many  learn new skills and new things abt themselves and the others, both kidnapped and kidnappers. An interpreter for a Japanese businessman becomes the central character bcs he must be in the middle of conversations btw japanese, Spanish, English, French and Russian speakers. The title relates to the one woman opera singer who is retained as a captive. The author, Ann Patchett, does a fine job of getting us to care abt all, including the kidnappers. Altho she doesn't explain why the young terrorists have become part of the kidnapping group.

I gave it 4 stars in Librarything......do you know abt it? It's a place to keep track and comment about the books you read, and they make recommendations for other reading based on what you've already read......like i need addtional recommendations. But it is interesting to read others comments as we do here.

http://www.librarything.com/

I ended up giving Below the Salt only 31/2 stars out of 5, it got too predictable in the last half, and too romaticized, as those mid-twentieth century historical nivels tend to do. But i will look at other Costain novels since some of you enjoyed them.......jean

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« Reply #3590 on: January 05, 2011, 05:01:48 PM »
I'm also with Jane in an Ostrich head in the sand lately. :)

MaryPage

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« Reply #3591 on: January 05, 2011, 05:08:39 PM »
Rather expect Costain is quite dated for these times.  Very romantic.  Very full of tragic circumstances.  Sort of a Scottish watered down to Jane Austen standards Charles Dickens.  Do I make any sense at all?

Adored him back in the day.  Read everything he wrote, so it has been eons since I have read one of his books.

He wrote fantastic History, as well and all.  And I seem to remember that Ronald Reagan starred in at least one of the films made from his books?  Keys of the Kingdom, was it?  Or something like?

Read about our fish kill here:
 
http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/green/bs-gr-fish-kill-bay-20110104,0,5624655.story

Now, you should know these things are not just happening here in the States:  

http://www.thelocal.se/31262/20110105/

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« Reply #3592 on: January 05, 2011, 05:23:20 PM »
Senior moment!  I am mixing up Costain, the Canadian historian, with A.J. Cronin, the Scottish writer.  Well, they both begin with a C, is my excuse!

Addled brain is more like it!

Read all of BOTH of them, but my description of romantic and tragic belongs to Cronin.  And it was Cronin movies Reagan was in.

Paul Newman (be still my throbbing heart!) and Tyrone Power were in Costain movies.  My favorite Costain?  The 4 books of The Last Plantagents series.  Wow!  Nonfiction.  But remember Kate Hepburn and Peter O'Toole?  Or was it Richard Harris?  I want my MEMORY back!

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3593 on: January 05, 2011, 06:34:16 PM »
jean...thank you for that link.  I'm going to go look and check that out!

jane

maryz

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3594 on: January 05, 2011, 06:50:54 PM »
Censoring Mark Twain - or any other book?  OUTRAGEOUS!
"When someone you love dies, you never quite get over it.  You just learn how to go on without them. But always keep them safely tucked in your heart."

Tomereader1

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3595 on: January 05, 2011, 07:46:10 PM »
My thoughts exactly, MaryZ about the Twain censoring.  When will this PC crap come to an end?
The reading of a fine book is an uninterrupted dialogue in which the book speaks and our soul replies.


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mabel1015j

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3596 on: January 05, 2011, 07:48:58 PM »
Peter o'toole and Kathryn Hepburn in Lion in Winter, you were right, MaryPage.....one of my top five movie favs......Jean

ALF43

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3597 on: January 05, 2011, 08:16:19 PM »
MaryZ- I screamed those same words aloud yesterday while watching the news.  I can't believe they let people say and do the things that are allowed and now "they" will censor Twain's writing.  Oh brother, what's next?

Steph and Jane & FlaJean- you have said the words that arise from my very thoughts.
 I know I could never ever understand the lure of the Three Stooges. I don't watch reality shows at all. They are glorifying the worst kind of humans.. i don't like violence or any type and since the accident it has gotten  worse. I watch very little tv.. belong to netflix and can pick and choose on there.Mostly old tv series.

I too have always disliked the 3 stooges of any of that foolishness. In fact, I was the only kid on my block that disliked cartoons.  Strangely enough I only like Casper. ::)

Mabel- we read and discussed Bel Canto on the old site.  I really enjoyed that book and my daughter vehemently disliked it.  Everyone's taste is different.  I think that is why we've lost some readers that had planned to stop in for our January selection of Little Bee -because of the horror of globablization.
Books are the bees which carry the quickening pollen from one to another mind.  ~James Russell Lowell

MaryPage

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3598 on: January 05, 2011, 08:22:21 PM »
Censoring Mark Twain is almost sacreligious in nature.  Many have not realized the man was NOT a racist!  He wrote Huckleberry Finn deliberately to showcase the racism rampant in the country AT THAT TIME. Ergo, we not only change a masterpiece, but we distort History!

It was what it was.  People talked quite openly in a scathing manner about anyone who was not of their color, race, nationality, and so on and on.  Sure, good manners were required among those who were considered equals;  but you could treat everyone else like dirt.

I think we ought not to forget that, and we ought not to try to cover the stink of our collective past.

When Mark Twain was born, a black person was counted under our Constitution as three fifths of a person.

roshanarose

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3599 on: January 05, 2011, 08:34:41 PM »
Frybabe - You have my idea of an excellent relationship.
How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?  - Plato