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bellemere

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« Reply #5440 on: June 21, 2011, 09:26:02 PM »

The Library



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Do come in from daily chores and spend some time with us.

We look forward to hearing from you, about you and the books you are enjoying (or not).


Let the book talk begin here!




Been out of touch for several days; sorry to hear about the loss of fairanna and Carolyn's dad.  
Re David McCullough;' it's not just history, but also geography.  And not just american kids.  From where I am typing I can look out over the ocean to Martha's Vineyard, six miles away.  My grandson, a lifeguard, has had two Asian tourists ask him if that was England!
I have enjoyed books about life in Nazi-occpied Europe, and just finished one: Comedy in a Minor Key.  It is quite short, just a couple of hundred pages, and is translated from the German  A very ordinary Dutch couple is asked to provide a "safe" house for a Dutch Jew.  They consider it a patriotic duty and care for him , risking their lives to do so. They become quite close to him, and unfortunately, he sickens and dies.  It seems that proposed an equally perilous situation.  No way to give him a burial. I liked the book a lot.  I always wonder what I would have done in that situation.  

serenesheila

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« Reply #5441 on: June 21, 2011, 10:16:51 PM »
I am looking for some helpful information.  My dad died on April 15th.  Part of my inheiritance is a rather large block of stock. I know nothing about what to do with it.  I have been watching a niumber of programs about the stock market.  However, almost all of it is beyond my understanding.

Could someone please give me some suggestions about learning about the stock market?  My dad didn't give me any advice, as he didn't believe women are capable of being in the market.  So, I wonder why he left me so much stock!

Sheila

Frybabe

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« Reply #5442 on: June 21, 2011, 11:08:45 PM »
Well Sheila, there are tons of websites that give general information about investing, not all of it good. I like Motley Fool for how to info, definitions and such.  http://www.fool.com/   Click on their How to Invest tab. They are about the best I have run across for newbies as well as veteran stockholders. It is all written so the average Jill can understand it without running away screaming.

Learn what a few of the common ratios and ratings mean, like P/E (price to earnings), ROA (Return on Assets), ROI (Return on Investment), debt ratio, etc. Something I have been starting to look at (after my Finance class) is Cash Flow. But for that, you need the financial statements from the company. It is always good to look at the financial statements and learn how to read them. It looks overwhelming, but once you know what you are looking at/for is becomes a bit easier. Now that I have had my Finance class I look at a company's cash flow, and not only do I look at sales, I look at Account Receivables and how fast they are collected. It takes a while and can get involved.

If you prefer, find a good financial adviser. Motley Fool should have some information about how to choose one and what to watch for. Some advisers like to recommend buying or selling stock so they can make commissions on the sales. Did your Dad have a broker or financial adviser he regularly used? All of my stock is held at a brokerage "on the street" which means I don't have physical possession on paper stock certificates.

Personally, I like to buy and hold. I prefer a stock with a dividend. I do my own research on a stock which includes looking at the basic ratios, cash flow, Morningstar's ratings (including a company's credit rating), check for current news items regarding the company, and go to the company website to see what they are about and read their financials (in a section often called Investor Relations). My adviser may occasionally tell me about a stock he likes, but he knows I am not going just buy a stock on his recommendation. I do my research. In fact, the one one time I bought on an adviser's recommendation, the stock tanked big-time shortly after and hasn't recovered.

Of course, all this assumes you want to keep the stocks rather than sell it all for the cash. You could do that too.

Steph

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« Reply #5443 on: June 22, 2011, 06:14:19 AM »
 I live mostly on my dividends.. So I buy and hold. I have a broker. He knows I am not a player, so never pushes me to sell or buy.. He does tell me how he feels about certain stocks. Your basis for the stocks will be your Dads date of death.. I go for dividends and am fussy about the company. Will not hold cigarette companies.. Dont like the Texas Book depository which is a bond type because of the conservative views of the school books and what is forbidden.
I would find a broker. Dont rush to do anything. If your Dad had a broker , talk to him(or her) first.
Am reading a most interesting book as my bed book.. City of Shadows by Ariana Franklin.. All bout between the world wars in Berline.. Remember Anna Anderson who claimed to be Anastasia.. She is in it, along with several russian emigrees.. Nicky, a confirmed con man has found her in an asylum, and is training her to be the Princess.. She is an odd mixture. Someone seems to be trying to kill her. She keeps asking for a dog..Her trainer is Esther, a russian jew with horrible facial scars. Very bright, very frightened herself.. I am really enjoying the complicated lead in.
Stephanie and assorted corgi

Babi

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« Reply #5444 on: June 22, 2011, 09:18:08 AM »
So true, FRYBABE. Did you ever learn what caused the alarm?

 SHEILA, unless you are bright in the area of finances, I think a good
broker/financial advisor would be just the thing.  If I were in your fortunate
position, that's definitely the way I would go.  I can balance a budget and a bankbook; anything beyond that and my eyes glaze and my mind freezes.  ???
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

bellemere

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« Reply #5445 on: June 22, 2011, 09:31:19 AM »
I have no advice to offer, Sheila, except that I think you should be very cautious  with all the well-meaning advice you will get. Had you thought of getting a financial advisor, the kind not affiliated with any product, who would charge a fee but give you impartial and hopefully expert advice?

Frybabe

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« Reply #5446 on: June 22, 2011, 10:17:13 AM »
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Did you ever learn what caused the alarm?

No Babi, I didn't. I thought I smelled, very faintly, something similar to the smell of a just stuck match. But my nose plays tricks on me. G suggested someone lit up a cigarette which is a big no, no in most public buildings anymore. I am more inclined to think it was humidity. My alarms came with a disclaimer that said that sometimes a high humidity can set them off. Another not so uncommon cause, for home alarms at least, is a bug crawling in where it shouldn't be and accidentally getting zapped, oh and dust or cob webs. These things always come with the instructions to keep dust and cobwebs cleaned off of them.

Sorry I can't recommend any financial books, Sheila. All I have here are focused on economics or bios of Warren Buffet and Jim Rodgers. There is probably an Investment of Dummies book out there that can give you the basics, too. Even if you let a financial adviser manage your account, it is a good idea to learn the basic definitions so you can understand a little more of what the adviser is doing with your account and why.

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Had you thought of getting a financial advisor, the kind not affiliated with any product, who would charge a fee but give you impartial and hopefully expert advice?

Bellemere's suggestion is very good. That way you don't have to deal with the possibility of ending up with someone trying to get you to trade just so they can make money, rather than doing what is best for you.

Judy Laird

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« Reply #5447 on: June 22, 2011, 12:34:23 PM »
Sheila don't wait go straight to a broker.  If you don't have one go to your bank and they will be able to help you. I don't know if a financial advisor is the same as a broker but either one would do to start.

I can't tell you how much money I have lost blundering around on my own and the "advice" of others.

pedln

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« Reply #5448 on: June 22, 2011, 12:43:35 PM »
Sheila, I'd opt for a financial advisor over a broker.  One who charges a fee, so you know up front what it would cost you.  Do not go to one who works on a percentage basis, or one wants to sell you something.  Get recommendations first.

Is anyone among friends and family in an investment club -- they might be able to recommend someone.  And, don't be real eager to part with what you have.

You might want to make a list of which stocks pay dividends and how much income they currently provide per annum.

You don't want to do this by yourself.  Take a friend or family member with you when you do this, one who knows a little more about finances than you do.

rosemarykaye

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« Reply #5449 on: June 22, 2011, 12:53:39 PM »
Sheila, I posted earlier but my post seems to have been swallowed up.

Although I have never held any stock myself, I have handled many executries (estates) that involved stocks and shares.  I agree entirely with Judy, a good broker will really help you - maybe you have a friend who could recommend one?  And I totally agree about finding one that acts independently and charges a fee - anyone who offers to do it for nothing will be raking off huge commission from recommending certain financial "products", and will not necessarily have your best interests at heart.  Agree the fee upfront - any good broker will be happy to do this. 

I used to do a lot of work on behalf of my clients with a stockbroking firm in Aberdeen, and I always found them extremely helpful and open in their dealings.  Most of my clients did not want to have to manage the holdings themselves - in fact I think very few people do nowadays, it is far too complicated.  The brokers I dealt with would manage your shares on either a "discretionary" or and "advisory" basis - one meant that they took all the decisions for you, but of course kept you informed, and the other meant that you instructed them and they simply carried out your instructions to buy, sell, or whatever.  It is not just a question of buying/selling either, as even if you hold onto shares, things like "rights issues" crop up (these are when a company offers to sell more shares to its existing shareholders in order to raise cash), and a good broker can tell you whether or not these are a good deal (whereas the company itself will of course try to persuade you that it is).  When my firm was a trustee of any estate (as lawyers often are) they always opted for the discretionary arrangement - there is no way that any non- finance professional would take the risk of making financial decisions for clients themselves these days.

I would caution against approaching banks, as in my experience they always want to sell you their products, which may not be the best thing for you.  Similarly, some "wealth management firms" (usually the ones with thick writing paper and smart offices) will get you involved in very complicated investment plans that may not be appropriate, and which can be extremely hard to extricate yourself from.

You could of course just sell all of the stock, but you should still seek advice before doing so, so that you sell at the best time, and also so that you are aware of any tax implications there may be from selling.  And if you do sell, you will need to think where you will place the sale proceeds - again, an independent financial adviser would probably be your best bet.  Alternatively, you could just spend it all and have a good time!  An old boss of mine was always telling people to do that - BUT she was wealthy, unmarried, had no children or other family - I think most of us with children feel that we should at least try to pass something down to the little dears, especially as it looks like they are going to be financially even more squeezed than we are.

Finally, I don't know if inheritance tax exists where you are, but if it does you may want to get some advice about that from the financial adviser.  In the UK, if you leave more than the current "nil rate band" (I think it's about £325,000 at the moment but I am out of date), anything on top of that is taxed at 40%.  (Gifts left to charities or to your spouse are exempt, but gifts to children are NOT).  There are ways to plan your finances to reduce the exposure as much as possible, and the sooner these are thought about the better (in this country, even if you have given everything away before your death, the tax people can claw back tax from any gifts made up to 7 years earlier).

Sorry, that was a bit rambling, but I hope it helps a little.

Rosemary

rosemarykaye

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« Reply #5450 on: June 22, 2011, 01:08:20 PM »
Pedln, I agree with everything you say.  Sheila - just a thought - maybe the lawyers who are handling your father's estate could suggest an adviser for you?  You don't have to use them, but it might be a start - once you have a few names, you can ask around and see what people think of them.  You don't need to tell anyone (apart from the adviser you choose, of course) the details of your inheritance, just mention that you would like a bit of advice. 

Rosemary

CallieOK

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« Reply #5451 on: June 22, 2011, 04:37:20 PM »
Sheila, I also inherited stocks and other investment products.  I figured out how much my basic monthly expenses were - and added half again as much.  When I consulted a financial advisor (connected with a nationally known company and recommended by several friends), I told him that's what I wanted to have available every month.  He made some suggested changes that would provide this amount and calls me when he thinks other changes could be made - but I make the decisions. The income goes into a money market account with the firm, from which I can write myself a check to transfer into a regular bank checking account.
 I get a monthly statement with the income from each investment broken down and suggestions for Buy - Sell - No Action and the advisor calls me if he thinks I should take action on something.  The cost comes out of the money market account.
It's worked well for more than 18 years with minimum effort on my part.

pedln

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« Reply #5452 on: June 22, 2011, 05:28:17 PM »
It sounds like you have an ideal setup, Callie.

Steph, every so often the Morse Museum pops up on my Facebook page (I "liked" them), and today they included a photo album from the collection.  Did you by any chance see this one on your visits to the museum?  It's called a cobweb library lamp.



Darn -- the one on the FB page was much bigger, prettier, but I didn't think it would work here.

Well, it did work, but it was huge.

MaryPage

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« Reply #5453 on: June 22, 2011, 07:05:04 PM »
Has anyone read the Aunt Dimity series by Nancy Atherton?  I see on the internet that she is still writing them and number 17 has just been published.  I had a couple going back almost 20 years up in my paperback bookshelves and, wanting light summer reading to try to beat the heat, I decided to wade in that humongous collection, starting with A.  Which, in this case, turned out to be Nancy Atherton and the first of the Aunt Dimitys.  Oh, I just love it!  Well written and a real hoot!  I would call it Adult Fantasy.  No, no, no!  I do not mean anything to do with s*x.  I mean adult as compared to the Snow White crowd's age and fantasy as in too good to ever happen to anyone, but all of MY dreams come true!  Witty and delicious little books.  So, to repeat my question, has anyone in here read any?

jane

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« Reply #5454 on: June 22, 2011, 07:11:27 PM »
Yes, MaryPage, I've read a number of them.  Then I got away from them and haven't read the last 3 or so.


MaryPage

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« Reply #5455 on: June 22, 2011, 07:14:26 PM »
About being in the stock market.

If you are younger than 75, being in the market is fine.  If you have more than a million dollars, being in the market is fine.

But if you have LESS than a million dollars and are 75 or older (I am, for instance, 82), you are better off getting out of the stock market so as to keep your nest egg safe from a market crash.  Put all of your money into United States Treasury notes.  I have much less than a million dollars in my nest egg, and I have 5-year Treasury notes.  If you sign up for a Treasury Direct account, you yourself deal directly with the Treasury Department:  no broker and no broker fees or commissions or churning of an account.  What is more, the Treasury of the United States will without fail deposit the interest for each note right into your checking account every 6 months.  Furthermore, and this is a GREAT boon, all of the interest is free of any state income taxes.  To put it another way:  by law, no state can charge you income tax on the interest you earn from Treasury notes.  That, plus the lack of commissions, is a big saving, AND you don't lose a penny of your nest egg.  You do not MAKE money that increases your nest egg, but over 75 the more important point is not to lose any.  I buy the 5 year notes now because interest rates are low just now, and I am hoping they go up soon.  I own 10 Treasury notes in various denominations.  Go on line and read up on it and either fill out a form right there to get an account (all free and you get the account BEFORE you can order any bonds, bills or notes at auction) or call their 800 number and talk to someone and ask them to mail you the information.

JoanK

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« Reply #5456 on: June 22, 2011, 08:04:04 PM »
I have had a treasury Direct account for years. husband and I put part of our money in that and part in TVA (Tennessee valley Authority) bonds. they are government bonds, so almost as safe as treasuries, also not state taxable in most states, but pay more interest.

The point about not losing money is an important one, if you live (as I do) at least partially on your dividends. Of course, if this is just "extra" money, the situation is different.

MaryPage

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« Reply #5457 on: June 22, 2011, 08:17:23 PM »
Exactly.

serenesheila

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« Reply #5458 on: June 22, 2011, 11:10:17 PM »
WOW!!  I am overwhelmed by all of your wonderful feedback!  Thank you, one and all.  I am 77 y/o.  My stock is with Charles Schwab.  I have no idea who my dad was working with.  The only advice he ever gave me was to hang on to what I got, fot the long term.  

But, I think that I am unwilling to take much risk at this time of my life.  I have been watching half a dozen financial news shows, daily.  Do not understand what they are saying a lot of the time.  I also subscribed to two financial magazines.  In addition, I just ordered a college, economics program.  From "The Great Courses".  

Now, I need to think about all of the information which you have given me.  Fortunately, I do not normally need any monthly income from dividends.  However, with multiple health problems, that could change at any time.  As I continue to age, it will change.  Righr now, Treasury bonds sound good to me

Sheila

rosemarykaye

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« Reply #5459 on: June 23, 2011, 03:08:03 AM »
MaryPage - I have - amazingly - found some of those Aunt Dimity books on our library catalogue, so I am going to reserve one - they look fun.

Rosemary

salan

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« Reply #5460 on: June 23, 2011, 05:49:58 AM »
I've read almost all of the Aunt Dimity series.  They "tickled my fancy".  I think you either love them, or don't like them at all (at least to people I have talked to).  Rosemary, try to read the first one first.  It sets the tone for the rest of the books & explains about Aunt Dimity.  They don't have to be read in order; but it helps.
Sally

Steph

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« Reply #5461 on: June 23, 2011, 06:12:02 AM »
It all depends on how much you inherited. I am 73 and stay in the market, but very very rarely with new issues. I have success and failureof course.. I have enough that the brokerage does not charge me any fees. I laid money off in stocks, bonds, pipeline type stocks and an annuity along with the retiredment Iras..
But I need dividends to live as I like and travel as much as I want to.
Treasuries are safe, but not paying very much at all.
Stephanie and assorted corgi

Babi

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« Reply #5462 on: June 23, 2011, 08:26:59 AM »
 I am impressed with the level of financial knowledge among this crew.  And free legal advice!!
Can't ask for better than that. 
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

jeriron

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« Reply #5463 on: June 23, 2011, 10:26:50 AM »
My question would be if you want change from stocks to treasury bonds won't you have to pay quite a lot of taxes on the stocks?

Also steph I have checked on my stock account about dividends and nothing is mentioned..

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« Reply #5464 on: June 23, 2011, 10:58:02 AM »
I believe you have to pay capital gains on any profit made from the selling of the stocks.  On the other hand, if there's a loss, that can also be used to offset income on your income tax.  I believe his death date is used as her cost basis for the stocks she inherited, so, with the present market, there might not be a huge gain or loss for her at this time.  You can read more about capital gains here:

Ten Important Facts About Capital Gains and Losses:  www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=106799,00.html

jeriron

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« Reply #5465 on: June 23, 2011, 11:38:41 AM »
That's the issue.  Even though most stocks have taken a hit in recent years it still may cost a tidy Sum when you try to sell them. I'm wondering if you are selling stocks and putting the money in government notes would change things re taxes. All this stuff is very confusing. And reading their web is as well.

bellemere

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« Reply #5466 on: June 23, 2011, 01:08:19 PM »
Just back from a short Cape Cod vacation. Weather mostly overcast, except for one perfect beach day when we introduced George , 19 months, to the Atlantic Ocean for the first time.  he loved it, but had a healthy respect for the waves.  We dug in the sand with pail and shovel, carried pails of water up to Mama to dump on her feet, collected little shells to put in an old Altoid box and shake, sat down and let little waves wash over us, and ate potato chips, (usually forbidden) and shaved ice for lunch. Just a great day and Mama reporteed that he slept like a log that night.  And so did I!!!!  Saw some old college friends and got caught up. Arts festival had great stuff, and steel drums played by Jamaican waiters and waitresses up for the summer season of work. Beautiful , even the Hallelujah Chorus! Bought a frivolous summer tote bag and sea glass earrings for daughter.
Also visited the organic farm where daughter teaches yoga on Saturdays. picked sugar snap peas and strawberries and bought delicious duck eggs. Just one makes an omelet.  Also chcked the Woods Hole Aquarium, with many interesting fish, and a "hands on" tank for little kids to pick up starfich, conch chells, tiny hermit crabs. Had delicious clam chowder and grilled fish and red peppers. Bak home and broke!  Rain and clouds this morning made it easy to leave.

rosemarykaye

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« Reply #5467 on: June 23, 2011, 01:20:00 PM »
Bellemere, that sounds like the perfect trip, and beautifully described too - thank you for telling us about it.  I can just imagine the fun you had with little George.  It reminds me of taking my children to the beach as babies, but I think it must be so much more fun with grandchildren, when you can indulge them and yourselves, and - I imagine - appreciate it all so much more than we did when we were harried, sleep-deprived, parents.

What a great memory that will be for George - and for you too.

Rosemary

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« Reply #5468 on: June 23, 2011, 06:58:14 PM »
Thanks for more information, about stocks.  I have a CPA, who does my taxes.  I have added her to my to do list for tomorrow.  Before I make any decisions, I will talk with her.  In addition, I am sure that she can reccomend a financial planner.  She and I met in a Widowed Persons group, and were friends, before she began doing my taxes.  She also belongs to a women's investment group.

Today, I received a copy of my Dad's will.  The only surprise is how much real and personal property he had.  My four children, and I are the primary beneficiaries.  I have never had much money, in my life.  So, all of this is a total shock to my system!

Sheila

MaryPage

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« Reply #5469 on: June 23, 2011, 07:41:07 PM »
Congratulations!  I would like that kind of shock, and of course I mean the surprise in the will and not the death of your parent.  My father died in 1979 and left me nothing.  My mother died in 1970 and left me all she had, which was very little.

Be careful about that financial advisor business.  They can be expense and have opinions that range all over the map.

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« Reply #5470 on: June 24, 2011, 03:13:36 AM »
While you are talking about stocks/ shares I have a question. As you know my dad died on Saturday. When he went to live with my brother and we were helping sort out his stuff we found about $250,000 worth of stocks and bonds in a vinyl folder. He was only with my brother for a few weeks and was being so neglected be begged my sis to take him home with her. When we moved him to sisters we could not find his stocks. My brother denies all knowledge of them. My father told us recently my brother has had many thousands of dollars off him and he has had his share of his estate as has another one of my sisters. The money was not from his stocks and shares. Can my brother sell these stocks etc without my dads signature. We fear he has them and we will never see them again. Dad was ill for the whole time (6 years) he lived with my sister so could not face confrontation. When we told my brother of dads will and how he had his share of the estate he said "Prove it then". I feel he will contest the will. I feel that my sister should have all the money as she has put her life on hold for 6 years and had to do some serious nursing. He does not have a huge amount left anyhow as his illness was expensive. We have written off the stocks and shares basically as who can prove my brother had them he says he has never seen them or had knowledge of them. Dad had antique ornaments, lamps etc and my brother denies all knowledge of those too. Dads stuff was stored in his garage and his garage is now empty.

Carolyn


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« Reply #5471 on: June 24, 2011, 06:06:02 AM »
The missing stock. Your brother could not sell it unless he committed fraud and signed your Dads name. If you remember what stock it was, it might be traceable.. Your brother sounds like a crook, but retrieving the other stuff will probably be impossible.
Stock is valued by two different ways.. Either date of death or Alternate date of death, which would be a year from death. With the market down, go for date of death.. It does not matter what you buy if you sell and have a profit, you pay tax.. Your maximum a year loss is 3000.00. no matter what.
If your Dad had CD, etc, you can cash them out on the spot because of the death. Depends on the rate of interest.. You can keep them if you want, as long as you present a death certificate.
Dividends.. If you use a brokerage house, your monthly statement should include your income each month and where from. Also on the listing on the statement, , there should be information on the stock, when bought, original cost, current price, profit or loss ( paper) and dividends per year. Mine also include a price to earnings ratio..
Stephanie and assorted corgi

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« Reply #5472 on: June 24, 2011, 07:16:41 AM »
Gosh, Carolyn, I sure am sorry. It's amazing what happens to families when money seems involved after a death. Did the court (I don't know what NZ does) appoint an executor of your dad's estate?  Perhaps he or she could demand return of these items...is there a judge involved with  the  Probate?  If so they would want an accounting.  I don't know what happens to stocks and bonds if they are in bearer or certificate form, rather than held by a broker. I have some like that myself.  My understanding is that the bearer can cash them in. but I have no true understanding of how that works, or what kind of trail that leaves behind.  For that amount of money I think I would ask a broker at any brokerage, they should be able to tell you based on what you saw in that vinyl folder?  Somebody along the way, I would assume, had to pay taxes on the dividends, etc and there should be a paper trail, starting way back in your dad's records.


In a strange sort of coincidence, I   am reading a fascinating book but a disturbing one at the same time, the Man in the Rockefeller Suit. It's non fiction but it sure reads like fiction and is extremely well written.  It's hard to put it down, but the subject matter is odd, about a man who set out to make his life over, and did, and as a result  lived a total lie most of his life.

Unfortunately  I'm afraid that it makes everything in life  seem not what it appears and makes the reader wonder what IS real, it's that kind of book. He's sort of a live Tom Ripley and it's interesting that one of his favorite things is film noir and Strangers on a Train which was not only a Hitchcock? movie but based on Patricia Highsmith's book,  the precursor of the Ripley series.

Life imitating Art. The thing IS, with every turn of the daily news we find out that this or that person, politician, star, is NOT what we thought he or she was, either.  It makes you wonder about reputation, fame, and is anybody what they seem to be.  The current list alone  is endless, Wiener, Edwards, Schwarzenegger, on and on and on. If  we made a list of the ones we've heard of,  we'd find this is a subject which appears frighteningly endemic. Who ELSE out there is living a lie?

The book has a strange effect on the reader, you really start questioning what IS truth,  but it's absolutely fascinating. It's very similar to the articles in the magazine Vanity Fair or something that Dominick  Dunne used to write, if you like that type of thing. I normally do. This one has me wondering.


Frybabe

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Re: The Library
« Reply #5473 on: June 24, 2011, 07:59:09 AM »
Carolyn, that sounds like a real mess. My BF's cousin had a similar thing happen, only his aunt had money stashed all over the house. When they had to put auntie into a nursing home, he managed to find and abscond with an unknown amount of money, but his wife started sporting expensive jewelry and he was able to start a new business. They still found a huge amount he didn't get his hands on. That was put in a bank account and helped pay for her stay at the home. Needless to say he is persona non gratia.

I've heard other stories of grabby siblings making off with stuff before and after a parent's death that rightfully should have been shared. That is stealing, not only from the parent, but from brothers and sisters. Despicable!

Ginny is right about bearer bonds, but I am also not sure about certificates. If you really want to get nasty you can get the police and taxing authorities involved. Tax people can be pretty tenacious if they think they can nail someone for tax fraud. They have the resources to follow the paper trail your brother would have left regarding any of his financial dealings. Proving that your Dad didn't give the stock to him is another matter.

Do you have a lawyer? What does he/she say?


Frybabe

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Re: The Library
« Reply #5474 on: June 24, 2011, 08:01:13 AM »
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The book has a strange effect on the reader, you really start questioning what IS truth


Ginny, Remember Plato's Dialogues? Enough to make your head spin.

Babi

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« Reply #5475 on: June 24, 2011, 09:05:33 AM »
 Ah, BELLEMERE, that sounds so lovely. All of it! Thanks for sharing it; made my morning.
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

bellemere

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Re: The Library
« Reply #5476 on: June 24, 2011, 02:28:42 PM »
Sheila, lots of people would like to have your problem. I can't give you any advice on investments, but >>>>>
Had you  thougth of .......(gasp!) spending some of it?
Take a wonderful trip, buy a piece of art, a subscription to the symphony, a full length red leather coat, a hot air baloon ride.
Or becoming a philanthropist? endowing a scholarship at your (or your Dad's ) college?
Invest wisely, yes, but for goodness sake, if you have never had any money in your life, have some fun with it!  and don't feel a bit guilty!
Long live hedonism!

CallieOK

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« Reply #5477 on: June 24, 2011, 02:55:47 PM »
Hear, hear, Bellemare!   I loved reading about your Cape Cod vacation.  Little ones are such a good excuse to dabble our toes and dig in the sand.   Couldn't do either of those around here but I loved the days of not having to act like a grown-up.

serenesheila

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Re: The Library
« Reply #5478 on: June 25, 2011, 03:42:58 AM »
CAROLYN, when my father died, I learned that he had elected beneficiaries.  Each of us obtained our share, as soon as we applied for it.  Only one of us had to show a death certificate to the brokerage.  I am doing the same thing, naming beneficiaries.  That way none of this must go through probate.  I hope that you will contact his brokerage firm, to see if he designated beneficiaries.

BELLEMARIE, no, I hadn't even thought of doing something I want to do, rather than what I need to do.  From your suggestions, the idea of philanthropy appeals to me, the most.  Because of multiple health problems, I am no longer able to travel, nor am I able to walk more than the length of my hallway. 
So, I am limited by what can be done from home.  I did order $500. worth of Great Courses, on DVD.  These are each a series of lectures, by univeersity professors.  I love learning!

I did pay off what was left of my mortgage.  What a relief that was!  Twice, I had refinanced to help my unemployed daughter to buy a car.  Nlw that each of my children has inheirited a like sum of money, I am resigning from the helpful mother's club.


Sheila


Steph

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Re: The Library
« Reply #5479 on: June 25, 2011, 06:03:32 AM »
Sheila, I gave a sum of money for a childrens book series in my husbands name just in the past few months. It gives me joy to think of the children who can enjoy a special series of books with a bookplate in his honor.So Yes charity is a good thing. In this economy, I give money every few months to Second Harvest. I think feeding people is a first thing in my book.. I also give money to help pay for medical care for rescue corgi to help them find a forever home..
Bearer bonds are just like cash. Should be kept in a safe deposit box or somewhere secure. Stocks are always in your name or a broker account. In both cases, noone should be able to sell them except you.. I agree Internal Revenue is a good source. Drop a dime on your relative to them and they will hunt down every penny..
Stephanie and assorted corgi