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roshanarose

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Re: The Library
« Reply #4480 on: March 19, 2011, 09:20:21 PM »

The Library



Our library cafe is open 24/7, the welcome mat is always out.
Do come in from daily chores and spend some time with us.

We look forward to hearing from you, about you and the books you are enjoying (or not).


Let the book talk begin here!




That's what we really need Barb and Jane.  An electronic device that we can turn on to auto pilot to drive the car while we read !  

Barb - I thought of you and Babi last night.  I know you are from Texas, and I think Babi is too.  I was watching a TV program called "Engineering Disasters" and one of the examples was about a place called London in Texas which has about 3 oil wells per backyard.  Someone realised that all the natural gas that was being burnt off could be used for heating.  There was a school whose numbers had increased dramatically due to the "oil rush" and the engineers thought it would be a good idea to channel the natural gas under the school in order to heat it.  The disaster that followed was shocking.  I can't remember if it was a spark that set it off, or build up, anyway it blew up the school.  I am sure you know the story.   So many children died in the fire and were buried in the town's graveyard.
How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?  - Plato

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« Reply #4481 on: March 19, 2011, 10:09:14 PM »
Roshanarose  it is New London - there is a London in Kimbele County but I think you are talking about the disaster that happened in 1937

Here is the link to New London and here is a website about the disaster New London School

And here is the link to London where there was no disaster and not located near Kilgore
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roshanarose

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« Reply #4482 on: March 19, 2011, 10:35:55 PM »
Barb : Thanks for those links.  It was New London, Rusk School. 
How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?  - Plato

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« Reply #4483 on: March 19, 2011, 11:06:34 PM »
Sitting on the loveseat with my dog looking out the window at that brilliant, beautiful moon. Have you all seen it? It's amazing. .......reminds me of some of my favorite "moon" things : song - Moonglow; movie - Moonstruck; song - Moonlight in Vermont. I can't think of any moon book, except Goodnight Moon............ Jean

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« Reply #4484 on: March 19, 2011, 11:21:40 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKt01p3DJRw   Youtube on the explosion with now adults who were children in the explosion and it includes historical movies.

Yes - the moon -  I walked out and there is a lovely warm breeze with this incredible moon - had to call my daughter in NC but she said it was overcaste and called my good friend who had been out this evening walking her dog so she had enjoyed the sight.
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« Reply #4485 on: March 20, 2011, 12:34:29 AM »
I went out at about 2am to see the moon. Moon was near its zenith, very bright light, cloudless skies, a magic night - but best of all there was a soft cool breeze that made me think that maybe autumn is not too far away.
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« Reply #4486 on: March 20, 2011, 09:16:10 AM »
And of course we had thunderstorms here so that's the end of my moonwalk. :)

RosemaryKaye, I meant to say yesterday but the phone rang and climpate did not work and both my sons dropped by at different times, plus one grandbaby (if you watch this clip you'll understand hahahaa) ,  but I meant to say that video clip on  AAADD is the funniest thing I ever saw in my  life. I watched it three times because the first time the phone rang and the second time the new air card from aT&T tanked,  so I went to look...well you get the idea.

The thing I love best about it is her determination. I love that British...she's just perfect. She's all of us.  She's determined to do something and as she says nothing is done but she's been busy. Absolutely love that thing. Thank you for putting it in here.

For those who missed it, here is  RosemaryKay's you tube link:

This is a slight change of subject, but do watch this short video about Adult Amnesia.  My friend send it to me .  We think it's very funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oHBG3ABUJU



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In other news, it looks like we WILL be opening (hooray!)  a new discussion for the Reader  Technophobes among us, a place you can ASK questions, and we can share experiences, no expertise guaranteed,  in the new technologies and recommend safe places and links (all websites are definitely  not safe to surf) and talk about what you always wanted to know about Iphones, Ipads, ITouch, Nooks, Kindles, anything and everything you have a question on: "what is texting?" etc.  Stay tuned! :)



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« Reply #4487 on: March 20, 2011, 09:19:58 AM »
I am just reading back over the past few days' posts, and the interesting discussion about the use of phones.

I must admit I text practically all the time now, as do almost all of my friends.  I like texts because they don't intrude - you can read them when you like and respond if/when you wish.  It is not that I don't want to speak to people - a large number of my texts are used for arranging to meet friends for lunch, etc - but I have always hated the way the phone puts you on the spot.  At home we have call display and I only answer if I see a name I recognise and actually want to speak to.   I do not feel obliged to return all calls. 

Sally - I laughed when I read about your unintended photo -  that is exactly what happens to me, I hate it when I suddenly see myself (usually just got out of bed, hair on end and every line showing) appearing on the screen.  My husband has just taken it upon himself (with no instructions or agreement from me - "I thought it would help") to change the settings on my laptop so that it does things if you so much as hover your little finger over the keyboard (or at least that's how it feels   :)), so I am ending up with all sorts of stuff I didn't want.  Just this morning I have been screaming at the screen because I couldn't even put an address in my address book without it all going wrong.  Elder daughter came to the rescue, and then i feel (i) stupid and (ii) self-centered, when I think of all the people really suffering in Japan, Libya, etc.

Barb - wood floors are also very fashionable here - we don't have the termite problem, but I still think they should be viewed with caution.  Some people put them in in upstairs bedrooms or in upper flats - the poor people underneath can hear every footstep.  My husband insisted on getting them put in in our last house before we had even moved the furniture in, and I always regretted it - it was only downstairs, but I felt that the sitting room in particular was never "cosy".  In the end we bought a Turkish carpet, which I love and which covered up most of it.

Another fashion thing that we have noticed in the zillions of houses we have viewed lately is the"feature wall" - ie one wall of, say, the living room papered in a loud print or very bright colour.  This has apparently been suggested on all these awful makeover shows.  In 99% of cases it looks terrible, and if we ever bought any of these houses we would strip it right off.

I would much rather have bookcases any time - every time we view a property we have to ask ourselves where the books would go; they and the piano are both real issues in many houses.  I suppose if I do get a Kindle, many of the paperbacks could go, but I would still have masses of old books that I wouldn't want to part with.

Rosemary

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« Reply #4488 on: March 20, 2011, 09:43:51 AM »
I can read on my IPAD in the car or on the train. Have not flown with  it, but suspect it will be fine. No idea why, since I get car  sick from even reading maps..That is why I love my GPS..
I really do love the IPAD and only fussed about the home computer hanging onto my messages since my provider fills up quickly and then they reject stuff.. Darn.. If I could just convince it to eliminate all of the junk I dont want.. I do buy stuff online, but I  dont need the constant sale sale sale going on.
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« Reply #4489 on: March 20, 2011, 04:07:55 PM »
Steph, the answer to your question about having your messages fill up your mailbox in different places is that you need to go to the setting page of the email provider and you will be able to check whether you want the messages left on the provider's server after they are downloaded to your computer and, if I remember correctly, how long you want them to stay on the server.  If they stay on the server then they will download in more than one place so you can save a copy on your own computer when you want to do so.  The way I have mine setup is that if I delete it on one computer it deletes from the server.  As long as I leave it in the "Inbox" say on my iPod Touch or laptop, it will appear in the "Inbox" on any other computer with which I open my email account.  Hope this makes sense.

Ginny, were you ever able to get a high speed Internet connection? 

I have not tried reading my ebook reader while riding in the car as I am usually driving. 

Last night I finished reading an enjoyable adventure book called "The Wrecking Crew" by Mark Chisnell.  I downloaded it free from a website called http://www.smashwords.com/ which features works by independent authors.  I see he has another of his novels on this site for free and am going to add it to my library and read it soon.  This is probably a book that would appear more to men than women.
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« Reply #4490 on: March 20, 2011, 05:27:53 PM »
Well, I don't thik I'l buy an Ipad just to see if I can read in a car or airplane, but I'll borrow my daughter's boyfriend's and try it this spring.

Yes, a GPS is much better than trying to read a map - I often am navigator but am slow at it because I can only look at a map for a brief amount of time before my head starts swimming. I try to plot the trip ahead of time and memorize the exits. We don't have a GPS but I've used one a couple of times.

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« Reply #4491 on: March 21, 2011, 06:00:46 AM »
Larry,,Thanks, I will look, but I wonder since if I take my laptop, I can delete on that and it will also delete the message on my main computers. Maybe my server does not consider my IPAD a serious computer?? I will check however.
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« Reply #4492 on: March 21, 2011, 09:46:44 AM »
Ginny, were you ever able to get a high speed Internet connection?  

No we continue to have nothing available here, except satellite. No cable, no DSL. AT&T said we could now use the "air card," which I happily ordered as they promise 7 M per second which is 7 times the satellite but it's not working well, one bar, takes an eternity to load a page and is limited in DATA transference.

Has to go back!

sigh sigh. We're in a pocket apparently.

But for some reason the Iphone works in emergencies which is good. It's slow but good.

I'm reading  Old Filth, which has won or been shortlisted for just about everything including the Orange Prize and NY Times Notable books etc.

I don't think we could ever discuss it here but so far I'm really enjoying it. It's  by Jane Gardam, and is about a retired barrister and judge in England in his 80's. His wife has passed away. It's so far kind of like a Major Pettigrew but I'm not far enough into it to judge. I love the way it's started out. It kind of reminds me in some ways of Major Pettigrew and also  Up, the movie.

Ironically "Filth" is extremely clean in his habits. He's always nattily dressed and turned out. He's got money and household staff. The nickname Old  Filth comes from an acronym he thought up, years ago: Failed In London, Try Hong Kong, about barristers who move to Hong Kong to practice law. And it stuck to him, the grand old man. Now he's returned to England.

It's something else.

Just the opening scenes where a long time adversary moves next door to him in England and what happens in a snow storm just keeps you mesmerized. But again I'm not far enough into it to judge.

I nearly fell out of my chair last night when CNN came on with the Coalition having bombed in their Operation Odyssey Dawn, the compound of Gadaffi.  (That may be spelled wrong, my spell check wants something with a Q. I don't care how he spells his name, when he's threatened to seek his own people out in every closet it's time to go).

Er...   It's so nice to be READING and discussing the Odyssey.  You are missing something if you're not in that discussion, it's the easiest read I've done in a long time and it's SO nice to be able to understand that name and what it entails, tho I must admit I don't know what they mean by "Odyssey Dawn," we're talking about that now if you'd like to come over and see (shameless commercial for book discussion) haahhaa




LarryHanna

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« Reply #4493 on: March 21, 2011, 09:56:43 AM »
Hi everyone.  This morning at coffee a friend and I were discussing the Nook ebook application on the iPod Touch.  I have not been able to get it to download the books I have in my account with B&N.  He suggested something and when I restarted the application I was able to sign on to my account, I guess for the first time, and it made my B&N library available to me.  It had really been frustrating to me.

Ginny, so sorry that you still are not able to get a good Internet connection.  I see that ATT in acquiring T-Mobile indicates they will try to serve the rural areas that are under served with higher speed Internet access.  So maybe there is hope yet.
LarryBIG BOX

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« Reply #4494 on: March 21, 2011, 01:44:21 PM »
Oh good news, I hope that's the case!

Huzzah,  our newest discussion which you asked for, the new Technophobe Reader,  is up and running and MaryZ who appears to be light years ahead of me, has a Droid (the newest type of I phone) and Verizon and a question about Kindle. Dew drop by if you know about any of this and help!!

http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=2155.msg110779#msg110779

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« Reply #4495 on: March 21, 2011, 05:51:17 PM »
based on all the great reviews I ordered Elegance of the Hedgehog for my Nook.  I have read about 4 chapters and It is boring me to tears!  Can anybody tell me if it gets better?  I guess you have to be French to get the "frame of mind " of the characters.
Next time I will "read in store" before I order anything.

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« Reply #4496 on: March 21, 2011, 06:37:24 PM »
Too each his own bellemere - there were a few light moments that made for a laugh  but I am with you - I believe we discussed it here on SeniorLearn and some adored the book but I kept reading thinking something would happen - oh it did but in such small bits and there is essentially an animosity between folks based on individual wealth that got under my skin. For me the book is not a keeper where as the Guernsey literary and Potato Peel Society I thought was a gem that we read either the month after or before Hedgehog.
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« Reply #4497 on: March 21, 2011, 07:14:00 PM »
I have not read the hedgehog book, but I did start the Potato one - and I couldn't stand that!!  Some of my friends loved it, some loathed it - I suppose a book that inspires strong feelings has its merits.

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« Reply #4498 on: March 21, 2011, 07:39:00 PM »
I tried very hard to read Elegance of the Hedgehog, but I just couldn't. Boring. Now, the Guernsey Literary and Potatoe Peel Pie Society was much more interesting and I enjoyed reading that.

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« Reply #4499 on: March 21, 2011, 08:18:43 PM »
Oh, well - I liked it a lot!  The Elegance of the Hedgehog, that is!. So did the Toronto branch of the family as well as the Bostonians!  We all don't have to like the same stuff - how boring that would be!  My sister and I agree to disagree on quite a few books but over-all we are in accord  By the way, I really like the Odyssey so much more than I thought I would.  What a revelation!  Come join the discussion!!

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« Reply #4500 on: March 22, 2011, 06:17:13 AM »
I am another. I loved the Potato, but tried and tried the Hedgehog. I like books where things happen and that one did not seem to move along at all.
I am reading The Help.. Probably the last person in anywhere to do so. It is interesting, but I must confess that I lived in Columbia , SC in the late 50's.. That is really very very south, but I knew tons of people with maids and none of what they discuss in Help applies.. Yes, the maids sat in the back of the bus..That was true.. But separate bathrooms, never eating with the maid,, etc etc..I grew up in Delaware, my mother had a maid her whole life.. Martha got driven back and forth to work.. Ate with us.. When she had a baby at 15, she started working for Mom and she brought the baby to work with her every day.. I guess I struggle with the kind of prejudice the book has.. I also do not believe in the main character. She is the most terrified human I have ever heard of.. Hmm. Oh well, I will finish it ( I think) but the fear factor is so overwhelming and so foreign to what I actually experienced.
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Babi

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« Reply #4501 on: March 22, 2011, 08:49:27 AM »
 'Hedgehog' was definitely not an action story; it was an exploration of people and what made
them tick.  You have to like that kind of thing to enjoy it...and know what you're getting into.
I enjoyed it well enough, especially when the lead characters life began looking up.

  Do keep us informed about "Old Filth", GINNY.  So far, it looks like something I'd be
interested in reading. I'd like to know if you continue to think well of it.
  I'd always seen Qaddafi spelled with the 'Q', but I notice in the recent news reports
(I use closed captioning, of course) that the name is being spelled with the 'G'. I suspect
'Q' is accurate, but 'G' is the pronunciation.

 
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« Reply #4502 on: March 22, 2011, 11:44:55 AM »
I just started Old Filth, on my Kindle.  Thanks for the recommendation.  We'll see how it goes.
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« Reply #4503 on: March 22, 2011, 01:30:23 PM »
I have read Old Filth, and I enjoyed it, but my neighbour couldn't finish it (another example of horses for courses).  My favourite Jane Gardam books are, however, A Long Way From Verona (which is thought to be autobiographical) and most especially of all, Bilgewater, a wonderful novel about a young girl growing up in a boys' boarding school (her father is a teacher there) in north east England (which is where Gardam was born).

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« Reply #4504 on: March 22, 2011, 08:00:47 PM »
I fininshed The Nibelungenied late last night. What an interesting story. Female "cat fight" escalates into a full blown feud which ends up killing of just about everybody. The time frame is early middle ages, around the mid 400s or 500s. Most of the intense fighting was between the Burgundians and the Huns. The time period, for history buffs, involves the "Great Migration" of the Huns westward into Europe. Having read about the Teutonic Knights, I already had an idea of the area and the struggles of the various feudal lords, and Papal interests. Worth reading if you are into early European history and tales.

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« Reply #4505 on: March 23, 2011, 05:57:37 AM »
Old Filth has such a neat ring about it.. May try it. I am busy trying to read two books on my IPAD.. Clara and Mr. Tiffany for my Literary Adventure at the library.. and Major Pettigrew for here.. I will work harder on Major since it is coming up faster than the Adventure. I am also trying to finish The Help.
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« Reply #4506 on: March 23, 2011, 08:27:43 AM »
I agree with you, Babi - on the Hedgehog.  I really enjoyed the secret life of the concierge, as her true self was  emerged and blossomed.  There wasn't a whole lot of action - it was more a psychological drama.  Can see where those who like more action would have been frustrated.  I was one who loved the book...shed tears at the end.  Too sad.

Here's a question for Kindle readers - are the chapters numbered?  If we are discussing chapters 1-6  of Major Pettigrew the first week, will that be a problem?

Steph - I hope you join in our discussion of Clara and Mrs. Tiffany in May....


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« Reply #4507 on: March 23, 2011, 08:55:29 AM »
 I wish to thank whoever recommended author Ivan Doig a while back.  I am now reading his
"Dancing at The Rascal Fair" and enjoying it immensely.  He is a new author for me, and he
certainly has a way with words.  The title is from an old Scottish tune,  the major protagonists
being two young Scotsmen who migrate to Montana in 1889.
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« Reply #4508 on: March 23, 2011, 10:24:44 AM »
JoanP, the Kindle3 now will show page numbers -- after a few clicks, and the books I've read on it do show the chapters, though going directly to a certain chapter might involve more than it would for a paper book.  I can't speak for Pettigrew because I have a hard copy of that.

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« Reply #4509 on: March 23, 2011, 10:27:16 AM »
 The death of an actor or actress has not hit me for years as a loss but the loss of Elizabeth Taylor feels like a loss of part of my history. Her older years did not show us the vital women she was but if nothing else, her actions toward those in the early stages of our  understanding of AIDS was amazing and helped educate many of us. Her death although expected  is a punch in the tummy.
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« Reply #4510 on: March 23, 2011, 11:32:41 AM »
My Kindle 2 does show chapter headings.  I find it cumbersome to get to a specific location, but it can be done.  If the book has a table of contents, it is shown on the Kindle, and you can get there from that "page".  Or you can "bookmark" a specific page, and can return to it.  The page numbers will not correspond to the printed book, because of the variation of font size.
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« Reply #4511 on: March 23, 2011, 12:00:48 PM »
I feel much the same as you, Barbara, about Elizabeth Taylor dying.  She was almost 3 years younger than I, and I am feeling yet another huge gate clanging shut and closing me off from today's society. 

I will always think of the twelve year old English girl who played in National Velvet.  How we adored her!  And WHAT a beauty.  I never saw her in person, but a close friend (dead, of course) who did said that her eyes were actually a real amethyst.  Imagine!

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« Reply #4512 on: March 23, 2011, 12:44:23 PM »
It may have been me that recommended Ivan Doig, and if so that makes me very proud that you've found his works to be enjoyable.  I need to check out others of his, but my f2f clubs, and personal reading are keeping me away from much else.  I have been trying to read "Scarpetta" by Cornwell, but it is rough sledding, even though the plot is very good, I'm having a hard time keeping up.  Cornwells' writing just seemed to deteriorate several yrs. back, and while she is try to revert to form, you can tell she's having a hard time, too.
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« Reply #4513 on: March 23, 2011, 01:38:50 PM »
We've been reading Doig for years, and I've mentioned him here, too.  His first three books are about his growing up on the eastern side of Glacier Nat'l Park.  Wonderful father-son stories - great books to recommend to new fathers of sons.
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« Reply #4514 on: March 23, 2011, 08:39:58 PM »
I fininshed The Nibelungenied late last night. What an interesting story. Female "cat fight" escalates into a full blown feud which ends up killing of just about everybody. The time frame is early middle ages, around the mid 400s or 500s. Most of the intense fighting was between the Burgundians and the Huns. The time period, for history buffs, involves the "Great Migration" of the Huns westward into Europe. Having read about the Teutonic Knights, I already had an idea of the area and the struggles of the various feudal lords, and Papal interests. Worth reading if you are into early European history and tales.
You're pushing me to read it, it's definitely my kind of thing.

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« Reply #4515 on: March 23, 2011, 10:06:42 PM »
Hey PatH Can't believe that you've not already read Neibelungenleid - here was I thinking you'd read everything!  ;)
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« Reply #4516 on: March 23, 2011, 11:28:12 PM »
PatH, I got my copy of The Nibelungenlied from Dover Books (Thrift Edition at $3.50). It was translated by D.G. Mowatt. I see that Kindle has several ebook versions available. One is free and another for $.99.

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« Reply #4517 on: March 24, 2011, 12:05:13 AM »
I'm holding my copy in my hand (Penguin).  You two have pushed it to the top of the list.  I've read parts of it elsewhere, but nothing like the whole thing.

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« Reply #4518 on: March 24, 2011, 06:03:07 AM »
Yes, I will certainly be at the May reading of Clara.. Right now though, Where can I sign up for the continuation of the Paul Scott books. I got it ( in hard copy) from my swap club..But now find I dont see it on the books to discuss??
Elizabeth Taylor.. Ah, she was a tad older than I am, but I always enjoyed reading about her life. An interesting woman, who got married way too many times.. But enjoyed herself always.
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« Reply #4519 on: March 24, 2011, 09:01:56 AM »
 Elizabeth Taylor was a beautiful woman and did some really fine acting, but apparently she
could not endure being alone.  It seems surprising in so seemingly strong a woman.  I will
confidently predict that we will have opportunities to see many of her best movies again in the
coming weeks.

 Doig's love for Montana shines through in the book I'm reading. And he seems so familiar
with the Scots background, I have to think he is of Scots heritage, though 'Doig' is a
new name for me.
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs