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Re: The Library
« Reply #10040 on: November 29, 2012, 12:35:39 PM »

The Library

Our library cafe is open 24/7, the welcome mat is always out.
Do come in from daily chores and spend some time with us.

We look forward to hearing from you, about you and the books you are enjoying (or not).


Let the book talk begin here!




Winchester Lady, so sorry to hear about your loss.  My sympathies to you and your family.

Back in the SeniorNet days we read Nickel and Dimed – in June, 2001.  Here is the link.  I also bought Ehrenrich’s book Bait and Switch, but must confess that I have yet to read it.

Nickel and Dimed

Ginny
, re: your comment about The King’s Speech. Loved the movie.  A book? I didn’t know there was one.  Who is the author?

Wild is on my list, Jean.  My Seattle daughter read it and liked it very much.  She’s a hiker and backpacker and would love to do that trip.

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« Reply #10041 on: November 29, 2012, 02:19:36 PM »
Larry, we read Team of Rivals here a couple of years ago.  It is indeed very interesting, and gets even better as it goes along.  I had trouble at first keeping the 4 rivals straight as she switched back and forth among them so much, but I made some notes, and eventually could easily keep them straight.  There are lots of interesting insights into Lincoln's character and decision-making.

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« Reply #10042 on: November 29, 2012, 04:31:34 PM »
On the Chris Matthews show last night they said that the book has been republished, due to the movie, and is retitled just LINCOLN.

I read that issue of Vanity Fair.  In fact, I read Vanity Fair every month, because they have absolutely fascinating articles. One of my  daughters subscribes to it, and I spend 3 nights a week at her house.

I remember well when we all read Nickel and Dimed.  She was like Rachel Carson with Silent Spring, that is to say, ahead of the times.  But what Carson said is being realized with horror now by many, and what Ehrenreich exposed is becoming realized, albeit still slowly, at last.

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« Reply #10043 on: November 29, 2012, 07:45:36 PM »
Thanks Rosemary for the offer.  I use to exchange books between here and UK but now it is so expensive to mail anything either way.  Friends just sent me the other month my favourite tea from Yorkshire. Cost 14 pounds postage. more than the tea cost.  They are talking of out Postal service going bankrupt next year. Understandable with what they charge.
Maybe the libraries here are finding it expensive to get so many books written in UK shipped here. Up to this year I could get anything you told us about.  Will ask them next time in what the problem is.

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« Reply #10044 on: November 29, 2012, 11:31:34 PM »
Too Good NOT to Share...

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« Reply #10045 on: November 30, 2012, 05:46:22 AM »
I saw Capote a few years ago and loved it. I was surprised about his friendship with Harper Lee as well.. Who knew.. I never look at Vogue, but will try and get it.. Possibly through my IPAD??
I dont think that libraries will die. I do think they must change. I know that my local one needs to rethink their hours, but the county is too cheap to pay for more help.. Not the libraries fault.
New York Public Library is a beast.. Beautiful, quite dirty in spots, but a joy to wander in..Even better for me was the New York Geneographical Biographical Society... Oh my, the joys of manuscripts,books, telephone directories, voters lists.. private diaries.. One of my favorite places in the world.
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« Reply #10046 on: November 30, 2012, 05:47:24 AM »
oops
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marjifay

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« Reply #10047 on: November 30, 2012, 08:44:49 AM »
Goodwin's book TEAM OF RIVALS hasn't been re-titled Lincoln, MaryP.  They said the book had a new cover because of the new film, LINCOLN, which is based on her book.  The film is apparently renewing the popularity of her book and bringing it lots of new readers.  I'm glad I purchased the book a while back rather cheaply, because the price has gone way up.

I'm looking forward to seeing the film Lincoln next week.  Hope it's good, as it's 2-1/2 hours long!  They say Tommy Lee Jones is great as Thaddeus Stevens.

Marj
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« Reply #10048 on: November 30, 2012, 08:46:41 AM »
 I do wish the article had told us who Ian Fleming saw as 'the embodiment of 007'. If
he was more expensive then Connery, he must have been a 'really big' star.

 Hey, good to hear from you, LARRY. You should drop by more often; we miss you.

 Neat pillow, BARB. Someone had a clever idea, there. Wouldn't that make a fun Christmas
gift to send to a transplanted Southerner up north?

 LOL, STEPH! I would never have thought there could be a place where telephone directories
and voters lists were preserved...and appreciated. Of course! A geneological 'library'.
I'll bet there are some great private diaries in there.
  "oops?"  What, what?!! You okay?
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marjifay

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« Reply #10049 on: November 30, 2012, 09:20:51 AM »
Interesting, that Ian Fleming had wanted someone other than Sean Connery to play James Bond.  I wonder if he changed his mind when the first film was released.  IMO, Sean Connery is the ONLY James Bond-- perfect casting.

Steph, not sure what you meant by “I saw Capote”  Do you mean one of his films?  One of my favorite stories by Capote is A CHRISTMAS MEMORY, where as a young 7-year-old parentless boy, he spent the holiday with his elderly cousin, the eccentric, childlike and loveable Miss Sook Faulk.  Lovely short (45 pp) story.

Nice to hear from you, Larry.  I also miss your posts.  Which reminds me, it’s too bad we don’t have more males posting to these groups.  I enjoy hearing what they like to read.

Marj

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« Reply #10050 on: November 30, 2012, 10:19:42 AM »
Hello, Larry, so good to see you again! I do remember the Book Exchange but not the VAT stuff but since you were really in charge of that, your memory will be better than mine.

Do you recommend the movie Capote then? I had it once on Netflix and sent it back, didn't have time to see it then. I love Phillip Seymour Hoffman, who played the part. Maybe I need to get it back again.

The new Vanity Fair article shows that Capote (I've got that book, too, somewhere) certainly was an odd duck, got way caught up in the Clutter murders and especially with the one perpetrator,  and his final ms is missing. Joanne Carson, wife of the late Johnny Carson, said he gave her the day before he died a key to a safe deposit box in CA which they think contains the ms, but did not say which bank.  They think perhaps Walls Fargo. Perhaps it never existed or perhaps it's waiting to be discovered.

Babi, they do say who Ian Fleming preferred, and it's in the letters to the Editor column: "Ian Fleming had requested of Harry Saltzman that a British actor, Michael Craig, be offered the role, as Fleming thought he had the 'right impression' of his hero, James Bond. Craig was  under contract with the Rank Organization at the time, and the executive producer, Earl St. John, said they would lend him out for a million pounds. Saltzman, with a small budget to begin with, said there were many actors around who could play the part and then approached Sean Connery, although he was thought to be less elegant and rougher shod."

Pedln, The King's Speech was written by Mark Logue, grandson of Lionel Logue, the speech therapist. His introduction is quite interesting as he's also  the custodian of the Logue Archives, which were incomplete when he began his book. One of his cousins, learning of the book, said she had found boxes of documents relating to his grandfather and she was not sure they would be of use but he was welcome to come look. He found three volumes of letters, between the King and Lionel Logue, over 30 years, boxes of scrap books Lionel kept, a diary that Logue's wife kept, hundreds and hundreds of pages of documents. As he was writing the book, he was also  invited onto the set of the coming movie as the producers had contacted the family about different things.

So it's sort of his own effort at knowing more about his grandfather: genealogy. But it's interesting. Lots of photographs right on the pages, not on photo paper, tho there's a section of that too.
The introduction concludes with the author's email address, in case anyone who had been a patient or was related or had any information of any kind can contact him.

Am almost finished with it, and have enjoyed it, it's low key and fascinating. I also enjoyed the article on Julian Fellowes, creator of Downton Abbey.













marjifay

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« Reply #10051 on: November 30, 2012, 12:13:09 PM »
Whoops...  Sorry Steph.  I forgot there was a film entitled "Capote."  Haven't seen it.

Marj
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« Reply #10052 on: November 30, 2012, 12:34:10 PM »
I never heard of Michael Graig. He has been quite busy over his 84 years but pix are hard to find. Neither IMBD nor Wikipedia have one. I did find this though. He was (still is) handsome. You can use the back and next buttons to see more.

http://www.allstarpics.net/0032158/017395361/michael-craig-pic.html

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« Reply #10053 on: November 30, 2012, 12:47:07 PM »
I had only listened to what Chris Matthews said about the new title on Doris Kearns Goodwin's book, but now I have looked it up and I can see what he meant.  She was right on his show with him, and she did not correct him, so I guess she agreed with him when he stated the book has been retitled:

http://www.amazon.com/Team-Rivals-Lincoln-Tie--Edition/dp/1451688091/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354297520&sr=8-1&keywords=doris+goodwin+lincoln

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Re: The Library
« Reply #10054 on: November 30, 2012, 03:00:01 PM »
Babi and Ginny, I try to read here every day but seldom have anything pertinent to say.  The movie "capote"is currently available with streaming from Netfix.  I found it very interesting and shows how he ended his years almost insanely with the effects of drinking and drugging. 
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« Reply #10055 on: November 30, 2012, 04:05:01 PM »
Yes, I saw him on TV, was it the Cavett interview? Before he died, it was pitiful.  And the article makes that point as well.

Frybabe, good heavens, yes indeed, I would have voted for Michael Craig too. What a handsome man. I must look up his credits. Thank you for that.

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« Reply #10056 on: November 30, 2012, 05:15:52 PM »
I can see how Sean Connery was chosen - they both have that brooding look and they look almost like brothers when you look at Sean Connery as a young man - I remember seeing one of his first motion Pictures Wee Geordie when he still acted with a thick accent.

And Michael Craig I believe played the Commodore in Dr. Who.  Here he is in the steamy Vaghe Stelle Dell'orsa with Claudia Cardinale

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« Reply #10057 on: November 30, 2012, 05:19:45 PM »
Quote
seldom have anything pertinent to say.

Larry, I don't think pertinent is absolutely necessary all the time. It's just nice to hear from everyone once and a while just to know they are doing okay.

Well, George brought three kitties home with him today. He took them in when someone he knew up home got put into the mental ward (more or less permanently, I hear). He couldn't find anyone up there to take them. So now he has five. He is still hoping to find a home for them. He's been talking to the PAWS people. Their budget is way tight right now so they are not accepting any more critters unless they are already spayed or neutered. Two black cats and one tortoise shell. The two kittens are adorable. Mom was under the car seat so I didn't get to see her. Now he has the task of introducing them to his other two cats.

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« Reply #10058 on: December 01, 2012, 05:46:07 AM »
All animal rescue sites are way overcrowded. When times get bad, people are sometimes forced into solutions they dont want. If they go to another home or relative, often they cannot take their animals. I know that Corgi rescues all over the US are way overcrowded.. Rescue is hard hard work..
Capote was of course the movie, although I am pretty sure I have read everything of his. An odd man, not likeable as far as I can see. But in Cold Blood was mesmerizing.He did a spectacular job and the movie seem to feel that Harper Lee really helped him on that one. IT does have a different feel than most of his work.
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« Reply #10059 on: December 01, 2012, 09:23:14 AM »
Oh, thanks, GINNY. I know nothing about Michael Craig, so I would never have
thought of him.
 Surprising, FRYBABE. Actors usually have pictures everywhere. Craig does look
like he would make a smooth, cultured Bond. I had that same impression on seeing
the picture, BARB, ..that he resembled Sean Connery.

  Would you believe I have never read anything by, or about, Capote?  Somewhere in the
past an early impression of the man left me with a strong sense of distaste.  Odd, how
that happens sometimes.
 
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« Reply #10060 on: December 01, 2012, 09:34:39 AM »
  Would you believe I have never read anything by, or about, Capote?  Somewhere in the
past an early impression of the man left me with a strong sense of distaste.  Odd, how
that happens sometimes.
The same thing happened to me.  I read some of his short stories, and liked them OK, but then something gave me that same feeling of distaste.

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« Reply #10061 on: December 01, 2012, 01:07:32 PM »
I had a hard time listening to COPOTE'S talking voice. Funny looking little man along with it. He seem to have had a lot of friends. Wonder if they had the same feeling.

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« Reply #10062 on: December 01, 2012, 04:25:29 PM »
Oh but his Christmas story is just wonderful - filled with such gentle kindness and love and wonder - oh oh I just cannot imagine the season going by without dipping into its pages - if you have not read it or have not seen the wonderful movie version do yourselves a treat read it here - it is a short story - and know this marvelous story is autobiographical

http://faculty.weber.edu/jyoung/English%206710/A%20Christmas%20Memory.pdf
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« Reply #10063 on: December 01, 2012, 04:33:49 PM »
ah the 1966 version with Geraldine Page is on Youtube - this is part one - there are 6 parts where the movie was broken up into sections for Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0vjTfVyZco
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« Reply #10064 on: December 01, 2012, 04:46:28 PM »
Barb. I watch the Youtube on but where do you go to get the other parts?

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« Reply #10065 on: December 01, 2012, 04:48:49 PM »
Oh and they are a delight - on my Screen after each section comes up tiny clickon photos of various parts of his life and the first one at the upper left hand corner is the next section of the movie - ah and this next section has Ha Ha the Indian Man who sells/gives them the whiskey

let me get them and put them here... give me a minute...
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« Reply #10067 on: December 01, 2012, 04:57:43 PM »
Thanks Barb.  Going to have to put it all on a Thumb drive and listen later all at one time.

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« Reply #10068 on: December 02, 2012, 06:17:38 AM »
Yes, The Christmas story is what launched him.. He became quite a different man than that boy however.. Somewhere,, dont remember where, when the Capote movie came out, they said that Harper Lee was in the Christmas story as well, but not by name.They were friends since childhood.
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« Reply #10069 on: December 02, 2012, 09:24:11 AM »
Oh Barbara!  That is the most moving, poignant thing I ever read in my life.

So that's who he was: http://faculty.weber.edu/jyoung/English%206710/A%20Christmas%20Memory.pdf

It's a Christmas card to any grandparent anywhere who ever had a special relationship with a child, or to the child who had a special grandparent. (I know she wasn't his grandparent but she took the place of everything, apparently).

Thank you for putting it here,  I had never seen it. THAT is writing!

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« Reply #10070 on: December 02, 2012, 12:01:15 PM »
Barbara, will you do a favor and post those links in the Holiday Memories discussion?  Just the thing~

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« Reply #10071 on: December 02, 2012, 01:09:01 PM »
I am reading PARIS A Love Story by Kati Marton.

Fascinating.

Kati was born in Budapest in 1949.  Her family was Jewish, but escaped the Holocaust.  They also escaped Hungry after the uprising.  Kati married 3 times, the 2nd time to Peter Jennings, with whom she had her (and his) only 2 children.  

Peter Jennings was married 4 times.  Kati was his 3rd wife, and the only one with whom he had children.  Apparently this High School dropout left fifty million dollars, with Kati's children each inheriting a quarter of that sum.

After divorcing Jennings, Kati married her 3rd and last (so far) husband: Richard Holbrooke. Holbrooke married 3 times and his only 2 children (that one knows of) were with his 1st wife.  He also had a long time, live in affair with Diane Sawyer.  Holbrooke and Kati almost broke up when she had an affair with Richard Cohen.

Almost feel out of breathe reciting all of this;  yet there is more!

But I must say this:  Marton is a beautiful and accomplished woman, and this is a beautifully written book.  Well worth reading.

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« Reply #10072 on: December 02, 2012, 02:42:25 PM »
Thanks so much, Barb.  I loved Capote's novella, A Chrismas Memory.  Didn't know it had been made into a mini-series.  Lovely.

Marj
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« Reply #10073 on: December 02, 2012, 02:44:03 PM »
Goodness, MaryPage, you need a flow chart to keep all that straight.

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« Reply #10074 on: December 02, 2012, 02:58:22 PM »
Thanks, MaryP, for you enthusiastic recommendation of Morton's book.  I've put it on hold at the library.  I remember reading of Richard Holbrooke's death a couple of years ago.

Marj
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« Reply #10075 on: December 02, 2012, 03:04:29 PM »
I just gotta say it:  Truth is stranger than Fiction!

By the way, everything I wrote is established fact and on the public record, but not ALL of it is in this slim volume.  I became so intensely interested in what Marton has written that I looked up all of these people, and so gleaned the rest of it from their online biographies.  Marton is amazingly blunt with it all, nonetheless.

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« Reply #10076 on: December 02, 2012, 03:34:32 PM »
I'd not heard of Kate Morton.  At first I thought she was the author who wrote novels, like the House at Riverton, etc. 

I'm always surprised at people who wed two, three or more times.  Once was more than enough for me!  LOL

Marj
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« Reply #10077 on: December 02, 2012, 03:49:12 PM »
Her name is not Kate.

It is KATI, and is pronounced COT - EE.

I saw her on Charlie Rose on PBS some months ago.  You can probably bring her up on You Tube or something.  That is where I learned that it is COT - EE.

And her last name is MARTON,  not Morton.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfhQOl6npic

HERE you can see a list of all the books she has written:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kati_Marton

http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/12519

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« Reply #10078 on: December 03, 2012, 04:55:46 AM »
Just back from London!

Thanks for all the info about Hannukah, I will have a better look tonight - about to dash into Edinburgh now to have lunch with Anna...

On our long train journey to and from London I managed to get both of my book group books read - The Testament of Gideon Mack and The Reluctant Fundamentalist.  Didn't like either of them, although both seem to have been widely acclaimed, especially the latter.

Anyone else read them?

Rosemary

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« Reply #10079 on: December 03, 2012, 05:45:41 AM »
Rosemary,, have not heard of either of the books. Sorry you didnt like them.That is why I dont do book groups in person.. Too many books I dont want to read or have already read. Dont even do our book groups that often. ONly when there is something really special to me.
Arrgh.. right hand and wrist.. carpal tunnel started yesterday. Need to go to drugstore and get a splint.. Hurts like crazy and motrin doesnt touch it.. And this is one of those busy weeks. Oh boy..
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