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« Reply #2240 on: September 19, 2011, 06:05:18 AM »
       
This is the place to talk about the works of fiction you are reading, whether they are new or old, and share your own opinions and reviews with interested readers.

Every week the new bestseller lists come out brimming with enticing looking books and rave reviews. How to choose?


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Steph -  I'm with you on Morton - I finished it but there was too much repetition and she signalled what was to come too clearly for there to be any surprises. Also found parts of it extremely derivative.
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« Reply #2241 on: September 19, 2011, 09:06:26 AM »
I'm on my last 50 pages of Major PettigrewI enjoyed it. It was different and I like his character. I could have smacked his son around though.

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« Reply #2242 on: September 19, 2011, 09:34:34 AM »
JIM, you really must free yourself from the necessity to finish every book you start. Not
every book is worth your time.  Don't worry, the author will never know you were rude to
his/her book. Feel free to toss. ;)
  I think you can conclude from PEDLN's post that Patty is NOT showing 'typical feminine
behavior'.
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« Reply #2243 on: September 19, 2011, 09:50:40 AM »
Jeriron, I had the the feelings about Major Pettigrew's son when I read the book.  It was a very good book.

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« Reply #2244 on: September 19, 2011, 02:24:23 PM »
Steph I would like to follow your BP advice, Was that stay away from salt and exercising?   That is also my regime     hehehe

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« Reply #2245 on: September 19, 2011, 03:03:29 PM »
Won't y'all share - even if you do not stay around to chat in Talking heads it would be so great to have as many of us as possible list our favorites in 20 Questions - it really is a way we get to know each other a bit better -

Here we are http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=2510.msg129764#msg129764
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« Reply #2246 on: September 20, 2011, 06:25:26 AM »
O h Judy, if only.. The salt is a stay away..The exercise..(sigh) forme anyway isa necessity. I take pills for the BP, but find that it truly helps me to get exercise. The everyday walking is good for me..Just now I am having horrible back problems, but generally I can make that stop if I just keep pushing myself to stretch and walk..
Funny Scottish innkeeper thing. When you go down in the small areas to breakfast, you will discover that you are counted and that exact number of eggs and sausages and a horrid thing cvalled a Potato Scone is waiting.. The men had to constantly ask for more..I am sure it saves money, but it does not endear them to their customers.
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« Reply #2247 on: September 20, 2011, 07:10:01 AM »
Babi:  You're absolutely right!  The compulsion to finish a book regardless of ones interest is ridiculous.  However, I have a mild case, or maybe serious, of OCD.  For example, two ladies clean our home twice a month and when they finish I embark on a tour of the house placing each minor "whatnot" in its original location;  like a bottle of olive oil, a soap dish, a dish towel, etcetera.  My wife has learned to live with this malady, bless her, and let's me roam the premises putting everything in its rightful place.  Actually, it's very tiring.  I must be very selective with my book selection lest I'm saddled with a War and Peace type tome that'll tie me up for months. 

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« Reply #2248 on: September 20, 2011, 09:03:51 AM »
I do the same exact thing, Jim.  My Rubia comes every other Monday, and I cruise the entire place when she leaves and pick up or scooch items back in the exact position I feel they belong.  I wonder:  should we be admitting this?

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« Reply #2249 on: September 20, 2011, 10:24:21 AM »
 Ah, in that case, JIM.  Good luck with your book choices, and do avoid the 800 page books
with fine print.  ;D
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« Reply #2250 on: September 20, 2011, 03:04:33 PM »
We're keeping the vote open for our November book discussion through end of day today.

If  you haven't already indicated your choice, vote for your favorite at http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/526QL5B

The three choices are:

 THE ELEPHANT'S JOURNEY by José Saramago: In 1551, King João III of Portugal gave Archduke Maximilian an unusual wedding present: an elephant named Solomon. The elephant’s journey from Lisbon to Vienna was witnessed and remarked upon by scholars, historians, and ordinary people. Out of this material, José Saramago has spun this whimsical yet compulsively readable tale - “a triumph of language, imagination, and humor"

SHIP OF FOOLS - by Katherine Anne Porter: The story takes place in the summer of 1931, on board a cruise ship bound for Germany. Passengers include a Spanish noblewoman, a drunken German lawyer, an American divorcee, a pair of Mexican Catholic priests. The novel explores themes of nationalism, cultural and ethnic pride, and basic human frailty that are as relevant today as they were when the book was first published in 1962.

Two Novella's by Eudora Welty: - The OPTIMIST'S DAUGHTER: This Pulitzer Prize winning novel is a story of a southern girl who goes back to her home in New Orleans due to the death of her father and proves completely unable to cope with his passing. She comes to realize that she will not find peace until she deals with her own past and what it means for her father to be gone. - THE PONDER HEART –another, short novel written by Southern writer, Eudora Welty–is the story of the eccentric and eternally child-like Daniel Ponder, narrated by his niece, Edna Earle Ponder - with irony and humor.

Talk about the selections and other books you want to recommend for the future in the Suggestion Box at http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?board=52.0

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« Reply #2251 on: September 20, 2011, 04:20:05 PM »
Steph - I am horrified that you had such awful experiences with Scottish food.  I have had them all too - BUT there are some wonderful hotels and B & Bs where I have had fantastic meals.  There is an organisation called "5 Star B & Bs" and we have stayed at two of those where the breakfast was out of this world - huge sideboards groaning with every kind of cereal, fruit, home-made breads, jams and marmalades, yoghurts, fruit juices, - and the option of a full cooked breakfast, or scrambled eggs with smoked salmon, all sorts of things.  These places are often cheaper than bog-standard hotels, but unfortunately they would never be included on a tour.  Here are two that are lovely:

http://www.barleybree.com/index.html


http://www.fordyceaccommodation.com/

Potato scones are a ghastly Scottish invention that you would not come across in either of the above establishments.  I have to admit that my son loves them - but then he is also addicted to Irn Bru, which is, as they say:

"Made in Scotland.  From girders."   :)

Rosemary

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« Reply #2252 on: September 20, 2011, 05:52:28 PM »
In college, my youngest daughter spent a summer semester abroad, mostly at Cambridge, but with some travel around different parts of England and Scotland.  They had some free time for independent travel, and she struck off on her own in Scotland.  I don't remember where she went, but Edinburgh was definitely part of it.  All the innkeepers took an almost parental interest in her, fussing over her, making sure her plans were safe, and especially loading her up with breakfast.  She liked everything she was offered (except for a sort of blood sausage) but no one would be satisfied with the amounts she ate, and kept giving her more.  She particularly liked the grilled tomatoes.  It was a totally positive experience for her.

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« Reply #2253 on: September 20, 2011, 05:55:02 PM »
Rosemary, what is irn bru? Solid or liquid?  Animal, vegetable or mineral?

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« Reply #2254 on: September 20, 2011, 06:53:52 PM »
I googled Irn Bru - it's a soft drink - a Scottish pronunciation, I guess, of Iron Brew.

What I loved in Scotland was a little cup of ice cream that we got in the Orkneys - called "Heeland Coo" - How the Scots pronounce the name of the long-red-haired Highland Cows.  I love it when folks, wherever they are, can poke gentle fun at themselves.
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« Reply #2255 on: September 21, 2011, 02:17:36 AM »
PatH - We have grilled tomatoes with bacon and egg - yummy. I think the blood sausage to which you refer has dialect differences all over the UK.  My father who was from Mercia (Midlands of UK) used to call it black pudding and adored it with stout.  I tasted it and it was OK, although a bit strong, but then I didn't know it was made with blood.  Urrrghhhh.

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« Reply #2256 on: September 21, 2011, 03:17:10 AM »
Yes MaryZ, Irn Bru is a Scottish fizzy drink that embodies just about all that is bad about the Scottish diet - the only thing it doesn't contain is fat!  It is full of sugar, artificial colouring and general rubbish - and it is worshipped by many Scots, along with such delights as cheesy pasta, a revolting packet mix for macaroni cheese that comes out bright orange.

Black pudding is, IMO, more of speciality of the north of England - you could probably get umpteen varieties of it in butchers in the Lake District.  The Scots have probably embraced it because it is bad for you!  It has also been taken up by some chefs - part of the "it's cool to eat poor people's food" brigade, if you know what I mean.  For example, lamb shanks used to be, as they say in Glasgow, cheap as chips, but since Jamie Oliver made them fashionable they are now unaffordable by the people who used to buy them.  In France you can get "boudin blanc", which is a similar thing to black pudding, but (obviously  ::)) white.  In Stonehaven (home of the deep fried Mars Bar....) you can get battered pudding.  I think this says it all about the Scottish diet.

But as I have said, there is a sharp contrast between what most people in Scotland eat (see above) and good Scottish cooking, which is served up in many wonderful B & Bs, hotels, etc - things like venison, pheasant, cranachan;

http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/usrecipes/cranachan/

 Cullen skink, salmon, etc.  And, as you say, some very good ice cream is made locally - in Aberdeenshire we had the Mackie farms, whose ice cream is really delicious, and there are other local brands in Galloway, East Lothian, etc.

It's not all bad - but I have to admit that a lot of it still is!   ;D

Rosemary


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« Reply #2257 on: September 21, 2011, 06:26:04 AM »
O h I was sure that this was not the norm. When you are on a tour , you have to deal with numbers. I was really laughing at the extreme north  where this seemed to happen. We had wonderful meals in both Glasgow and Edinburgh. Yes, the guide actually put some of the irn bro in our coolers and some of the people tried it. She said it was the national drink.. I stuck to water.
Orkney.. Everything on Orkney was perfect.. What a wonderful set of islands.. Way too cold for me, but oh my, the beauty, history and towns..
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« Reply #2258 on: September 21, 2011, 11:26:42 AM »
One year in Colorado, we had a Filipino exchange student.  His mother sent me a Filipino cookbook in which was one recipe that began:   "Take the blood of one chicken..."   Needless to say, I have never ever ever tried that one -  :P   :o  but some of the others were pretty good. 

Busy day today.  I'm hostess for a Bridge foursome; we go OTL first and play cards at the home of the hostess.  I've made an apple dessert - but cheated and used canned pie filling.   :-[   

I'm also waiting to hear if Ellen and/or family will be here for dinner, which her father tells me they will bring.  Yay! However this is Audition Week for semester productions and I suspect Miss Ellen may be too busy to get away.  I don't know if the others will come without her.  Neither do I know if her uncle and aunt will come, too.
(All My Children live within a 40 minute drive from here and, as is usual with OKC area residents, think nothing of driving all around the metro area for various activities.)

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« Reply #2259 on: September 21, 2011, 02:44:48 PM »
When my second husband and I spent about 2 weeks in Scotland in 1971, we adored it AND the food.  We did not take a tour, however, but went on our own with a carefully planned itinerary.  We first flew from Heathrow to Glasgow in a smallish plane.  We adored Glasgow.  Loved the cathedral with "the longest nave in any cathedral in the world for a bride to walk down," as I can remember the guide telling us.  We were fascinated to have to knock on the door of a house right in the ancient heart of that city to be let in to tour it, and then the man locked us IN!  The stone stairway had dents in the middle of each stone and Mary Queen of Scots had stayed there and tread on those very steps!  What is more, they went up in a tight wall-enclosed circle so a man with a sword IN HIS HAND could go up!  Oh, the stuff we saw and the wonderful maps we bought and the first real Scottish porridge we ate, there in "GlazGOW," as it seemed the natives were calling it.  We flew in an even smaller plane to Benbeccula and Lewis, where we toured the Outer Hebrides for days.  We even held in our very own hands a bottle empty of whisky stolen from that famous ship that went down and the book Whisky Galore was written about and the movie Tight Little Island was made from.  All true.  We stayed one night in a weaver's croft on Harris.  We stayed on Skye, as well, getting there by ferry.  Oh, and we rented a car on the Outer Islands.  We did so much I cannot bore you here with it all, but we LOVED Scotland and the food and always wanted to go back.  David died before we could.

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« Reply #2260 on: September 21, 2011, 04:39:48 PM »
Sounds glorious MaryPage - I think travel has much to do with your travel companion(s) - Some are in awe with their eyes wide open and often I found groups busy making social connections so that injected in the tour is a way to look at the new environment and opportunities as a comparison issue to discuss differences. You do not even realize what is happening till days have gone by and then to disengage in not easy especially if you value the new friendships.
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« Reply #2261 on: September 22, 2011, 05:58:14 AM »
Tim and I toured mostly on our own and on the small boats..Both were fun..We did a few bus tours, but disliked the long distances traveled and the meal arrangements, but as a widow traveling alone, a tour sounded safest.
I always thought Mary, Queen of Scots was a truly silly human, so although I saw a lot of places she had been and where she was born and where her son was born, I have not really changed my mind.. Can you imagine insisting that your ladies in waiting are all named Mary as well.
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« Reply #2262 on: September 23, 2011, 11:12:09 AM »
I think of her as tragic, wrong-headed, and ill-advised.  But when I picture how she was raised and taught all of her life, I feel quite a bit of compassion, albeit no sense of identification.  My awe over the house she stayed in, at her having climbed those same stone steps with their indentations from the footsteps of the ages, was just that:  a sense of awe for the very age of it all.  America was just barely beginning when Mary Queen of Scots died. 

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« Reply #2263 on: September 23, 2011, 12:35:36 PM »
Several years ago I read all the Mitford series by Jan Karon.  Liked them so well that I bought a set (except for the last one).  Last night I pulled the first Mitford out of the bookcase to read once again.  I had forgotten how good it was and am enjoying it all over again.  I had laughed out loud several times before finishing the second chapter.  They are worth a second read.

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« Reply #2264 on: September 23, 2011, 12:37:41 PM »
Tell us more about the story Jean, i'm not familiar w/ the author or the Mitfords.

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« Reply #2265 on: September 24, 2011, 12:03:41 AM »
The series by Jan Karon is about Father Tim, a bachelor (at least in the beginning) rector, in a small Carolina mountain town.  The 9 book series began in 1994 and ended  in 2005.  What an interesting wealth of characters.  It has hilarious moments and also very touching moments.  It was on the New York Times best selling list and was very popular.

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« Reply #2266 on: September 24, 2011, 01:12:41 AM »
After the Mitford series, Jan Karon began the "Father Tim" series.  The second one was published in 2010.  These are about Father Tim's life before Mitford.

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« Reply #2267 on: September 24, 2011, 05:49:02 AM »
I listened to the Mitford series and enjoyed it. Maybe will look for the Father Tim one.
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« Reply #2268 on: September 24, 2011, 09:03:30 AM »
 I remember reading a couple of the Mitford books way back when. They made pleasant
reading.  They might be just the thing next time I'm tired and just want some nice, light
entertainment.  A laugh or two is always welcome.  One of the nicest things about living
with my younger daughter, is that she can be hilarious.  Such an expressive face. :D
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« Reply #2269 on: September 24, 2011, 12:27:14 PM »
I liked the Mitford books, but find a little goes a long way.  As Oscar Levant once said, "I can't watch the Dinah Shore show; I'm diabetic."

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« Reply #2270 on: September 24, 2011, 12:48:23 PM »
I liked the Mitford series, but got tired of them by the end.  When I find a series I enjoy I usually read them to "death"--a little compulsive that way, I guess.  It's been a while; so may try the Father Tim series.

Babi, I think you would enjoy them.  I always think it's best to start with the first in a series.  Someone at SeniorLearn recommend the Ivy Malone series by Lorena McCourtney.  The first one is Invisible and I really enjoyed it; and have now started the 2nd.  I think you would enjoy this series also.  Very light mysteries with an over 60 heroine.
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« Reply #2271 on: September 24, 2011, 01:02:20 PM »
I didn't know about the Father Tim series.  I'll look for them.

The Ivy Malone series sounds interesting.  I'm going to check my library for them.

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« Reply #2272 on: September 24, 2011, 05:20:38 PM »
Years ago Ginny introduced us the the The Mapp and Lucia series by E.F. Benson - they are a riot - I believe there are 6 in the series. Lucia and then Queen Lucia - oh I forget but you can get all the stories now in one paperback. The story takes place during the 1920s when a comfortable middle class life included either a housemaid or a butler and so there is a whole secondary story that goes on between the servants - Lucia and Mapp are not upper class like even the new Upstairs Downstairs households with a cortège of many servants.
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« Reply #2273 on: September 24, 2011, 10:25:41 PM »
And Ginny introduced me to the Mapp and Lucia TV series, available from Netflicks. Also hilarious.

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« Reply #2274 on: September 25, 2011, 06:01:15 AM »
I love Mapp and Lucia, the series is a reread thing for me and I have been doing that for years. Did not like the tv series.. Had my own mental picture of the ladies.. But for laughs and a whole slant on the period, they are just wonderful.
I loved Oscar Levant and read his biography and laughed and laughed. I did remember the Dinah Shore thing and also remember my husband remarked that that was his kind of man.. He disliked sugary type shows intensely.
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« Reply #2275 on: September 25, 2011, 08:33:10 AM »
  URSA, I must admit to seeing a particular lady on Christian TV, that roused a similar
response in me. After watching her a while, I had to comment that "We were told to
be the salt of the earth, honey, not the saccharine."
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« Reply #2276 on: September 25, 2011, 12:42:08 PM »
I loved Mapp & Lucia as well and all.  How I roared when, in the first book I believe it was, Lucia had named the rooms in her home after Shakespeare plays.  Her bedroom was Much Ado About Nothing.  I do believe that will stick in my mind forever, as it was years before SeniorNet was even invented that I read that.

Steph, I felt as you did about the films.  Worth watching, but did not match my mental pictures at all, at all.

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« Reply #2277 on: September 25, 2011, 03:36:03 PM »
Sally, I checked out "invisible" from my library yesterday and am enjoying it.  Mapp & Lucia series sure sounds interesting.  Must look for those also.

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« Reply #2278 on: September 26, 2011, 06:08:14 AM »
I am reading a really really weird novel now. All about two idiots from Texas who come to a Private Investigators meeint in New York. Thus far, they have met every cliche in the world..The whore with the heart of gold, the innocent from a small town in Texas.. a policeman who is hot hot hot.. Whew.. I will keep on for a while, but not sure why. There simply is no plot..
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« Reply #2279 on: September 26, 2011, 08:23:55 AM »
 Do tell us the title of the book, STEPH.  It sounds like something I'd want to be sure and
avoid.  ;)
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