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« Reply #2040 on: November 01, 2010, 09:50:01 AM »



The Apple Orchard


          ~ by Shawn Bailey

The dew-softened blades
of fescue wet my feet,
small brushstrokes of icy wetness
on my way to the orchard.
The sunlight scatters
the morning mist
that shelters the trees from
the horizon.
I spy the juicy red apples
lounging in the trees,
moist with dawn
and there are thousands of them.
Fruitful, edible decor.
 

Autumn Poetry

In this Discussion we share what stirs our heart -
Bring us a gift of a poem
Yours, or the work of another poet.



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« Reply #2041 on: November 01, 2010, 10:14:07 AM »
Australians don't actually celebrate Thanksgiving.  Although I was lucky enough to be married to an American ( he was raised in Australia) and his parents always had Thanksgiving and his mother would serve up the whole deal - turkey; spoonbread; cornbread; cranberry sauce etc.  Up 'til then I had never really understood what it all meant.  I suppose I still don't.  What does Thanksgiving actually mean?  

In the past ten years or so Australians have also celebrated Halloween.  It seems odd to me and many others.  Although, of course, we have the same date. it seems to me the that the night seems more like Walpurgis night, which is definitely European.  We do celebrate Christmas, of course.  We tend to have Christmas lunch rather than dinner, and the lunch will often consist of cold chicken; ham;  cold seafood (prawns and oysters); pavlova and a little alcohol.  Gumtree will probably list different foods.  A swim in the pool is a necessity and then the long drive home, keeping a watchful eye out for the police who delight in booking people for DUI, and a nap when we arrive safely home.

 I have always wanted to have a White Christmas, but this seems to be increasingly unlikely as I have no disposable income, and thus no chance to travel the long distance into the Northern Hemisphere. It always seems ironic when we send Christmas cards to our friends that depict snowy scenes with Christmas trees laden with snow; and snowmen.  There is a trend for Australians to send cards with Santas wearing board shorts and riding surfboards which is kind of cute, if you like that sort of thing.  Many Australians take their tents and kids and camp at the beach.  It is a tradition for many families to do this and they have the same camp sites booked ad infinitum.  So often Christmas in Australia is celebrated wearing bikinis and boardies and surfing all day.  Incidentally, his is not the way I spend Christmas Day.  I spend mine staying overnight with my daughter and her family and eating Christmas dinner and waking up to a big bacon and egg breakfast.  Then we go for a swim in her pool and the kids open their presents.  Very different to Christmas in the States, but still enjoyable.

 
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« Reply #2042 on: November 01, 2010, 11:39:55 AM »
Thanks roshanarose for the info on how the upcoming holidays are celebrated in Australia  - here are two links that say it better then I can what the holiday is all about - one explains what Thanksgiving means and the other explains how it is traditionally celebrated -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving_dinner

Every family has their contributions just as Christmas is not exactly the same in every family however, for a long time Thanksgiving ushered in Christmas preparations - the various Thanksgiving day parades featured Santa arriving at the end of the Parade - Thanksgiving is about a week before Advent so that it was the beginning of all sorts of Christmas preparations.

Here in Texas it was usually a week or so into Deer Hunting season and for many families the men were out on the deer blind while the women used the long weekend to start their holiday sewing, and list making etc. In those families often the fare was Chili or Venison stew rather than a traditional Thanksgiving dinner. It is also the day when the school rivalries schedule their football game - American Football - from High Schools to Colleges and so Teens onward are at the late morning to early afternoon game and in some areas the tailgate parties are the big Thanksgiving bash with friends and class mates part of the fun.

Another set of changes to the Holiday have taken over in the past 25 or 30 years with Stores getting the Christmas Holiday season started Immediately after Halloween and now I have seen stores ready with Christmas merchandise before Halloween. Christmas is the season that makes or breaks a store from being in the red to finally being in the black and so they strive for every sale.

As to snow or not on Christmas, it is according to where in the States you live - for us some years are quite warm and we start the day with coffee on the patio - Even when my children were young frankly, I preferred the years we could start out-of-doors - there was a relaxed feel to the day - maybe because the children's excitement and energy could be spent in all the space of the yard rather than contained in the house.

I think snow for Christmas is one of those nostalgic experiences for many of the northern European immigrants that flooded this nation in the nineteenth century - by the twentieth century more immigrants were coming from Southern Europe and other southern climes but the first group set the tone that is still with us because, if we are really celebrating the Birth of Christ, that took place in a warm climate. Most Northern Europeans from my reading have combined the traditions of celebrating the Winter Solstice with Christmas and we have the left overs of that co-mingling today with scenes of snowflakes and Snowmen as part of our decoration.

I wonder where  you would go for the snowbound Christmas roshanarose - back in the early 1990s for 5 years in a row when my kids were first establishing married life and I did not want to be a 15 minute obligation on their list so I went to London for a week - Usually got there around the 20th and stayed till the 28th to be out of there for New Year's - I would see the plays, always the Ballet on Boxing day and on Christmas Day there was a company that arranged a bus full of folks that could choose from one of four locations from the Cotswells to Brighten where along the way there was a Restaurant waiting for us with a Traditional English Christmas Dinner including paper hats in crackers and then on to the destination where folks  usually ordered a drink or two and then back to London around 6: where the bus dropped you at your hotel - The whole week long trip used to cost me only about $1200 -

Recently I looked it up - Airlines run these specials that include a hotel but you have to make reservations by September - it looks like it could still be done for about $2000 - which for me included theatre tickets, meals, the whole thing... I often only ate one meal a day out - the hotel served a wonderful breakfast that an extra roll and orange was enough to tide me over till an early dinner - often dessert after the theatre at Fortnums since they are opened till 1: in the morning.

Have no idea what the cost of flying from Australia to London runs but it may be worth looking into if you have a year to have a monthly goal of saving and earning a bit of extra - for me I would need to earn and save about 200 a month - shaving any off my monthly expenses could not earn me 200  so the amount needed each month would have to chopped up and I would have to figure out small ways to earn here and there. For me to earn $50 a week I think I could do it. In the past I have started flats of flower seeds and sold them from my driveway and I baked bread and sold loaves during December when folks who are working cannot spend time in their kitchens so I would take a basket of fresh baked to the small shops nearby and within the most, an hour or two, all were sold.

Why not look into it - So it takes two years to have enough - it is still possible.
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« Reply #2043 on: November 01, 2010, 03:54:41 PM »
You tell on yourself by the friends you seek,
By the very manner in which you speak,
By the way you employ your leisure time,
By the use you make of dollar and dime.

You tell on yourself by the things you wear,
By the spirit in which your burdens you bear,
By the type of things at which you laugh,
By the records you play on your phonograph.

You tell what you are by the way you walk,
By the things of which you delight to talk,
By the manner in which you can bear defeat,
By so simple a thing as how you eat.

By the books you choose from the library shelf,
By these things and more, you tell on yourself.

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« Reply #2044 on: November 02, 2010, 07:02:29 PM »
 The de la Mare poem is truly sad. It got sadder as soon as I saw the word "Child".

 I've never read this poem before, but it strikes a warmer autumn chord than most I find.

The name -- of it -- is "Autumn" -- by Emily Dickinson
The name -- of it -- is "Autumn" --
The hue -- of it -- is Blood --
An Artery -- upon the Hill --
A Vein -- along the Road --

Great Globules -- in the Alleys --
And Oh, the Shower of Stain --
When Winds -- upset the Basin --
And spill the Scarlet Rain --

It sprinkles Bonnets -- far below --
It gathers ruddy Pools --
Then -- eddies like a Rose -- away --
Upon Vermilion Wheels --
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« Reply #2045 on: November 02, 2010, 11:05:20 PM »
Babi - Love that poem.  Emily Dickinson, remarkable.

Barbara - It brought me so much pleasure checking out those two sites, one of which made me extremely hungry.  But, in truth, I enjoyed your telling of the experience of Thanksgiving in US, both new and old.

As for me going to UK to see snow, that just seems to be a dream.  Thank you for your encouragement and you have indeed planted a seed.  My father was born in England and I still have relations there.  There was some kind of family feud which decided my grandfather to bring his family to Australia.  I wonder if my English relatives would be willing to kiss and make up. :)
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« Reply #2046 on: November 03, 2010, 01:19:12 AM »
Roshanarose : Of course they'd kiss and make up - it just takes someone to make the first gesture towards peace - maybe that could be you.
And you can see plenty of snow in Australia if you want to - just head for the high country in the Snowy Mountains -Perisher, Mt Thredbo, Mt Buller - wonderful scenery, wildernesses and resort style comfort. Don't forget to take your skis.
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« Reply #2047 on: November 03, 2010, 04:50:02 PM »
The difficulty of keeping separate the chatter in various discussions  however this fits for anyoen reading the Barbara Pym book.

Spinster
          ` Sylvia Plath

Now this particular girl
During a ceremonious april walk
With her latest suitor
Found herself, of a sudden, intolerably struck
By the birds' irregular babel
And the leaves' litter.

By this tumult afflicted, she
Observed her lover's gestures unbalance the air,
His gait stray uneven
Through a rank wilderness of fern and flower;
She judged petals in disarray,
The whole season, sloven.

How she longed for winter then! --
Scrupulously austere in its order
Of white and black
Ice and rock; each sentiment within border,
And heart's frosty discipline
Exact as a snowflake.

But here -- a burgeoning
Unruly enough to pitch her five queenly wits
Into vulgar motley --
A treason not to be borne; let idiots
Reel giddy in bedlam spring:
She withdrew neatly.

And round her house she set
Such a barricade of barb and check
Against mutinous weather
As no mere insurgent man could hope to break
With curse, fist, threat
Or love, either.
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« Reply #2048 on: November 03, 2010, 09:07:15 PM »
Not poetry, but another wee story about Thanksgiving.

Even the Ancient Greeks had Thanksgiving.

"Most societies, even today, rely on an agricultural sector to provide their food and, therefore, survival. If the harvest is adequate, most people will survive; otherwise, there will be famine. Whatever power provides the bounty deserves praise. While many of us have stopped thanking "God" for the bounty, that was why we celebrated Thanksgiving, originally. Even today, many people who ordinarily chow down without saying "grace" add this prayer to the fall feast.

Around the same time of year a festival used to be held in about 50 cities or villages of Ancient Greece in honor of the goddess who taught mankind to tend the soil. Then there was no question but that the festival was part of the goddess' worship. The festival, Thesmophoria, was held during a month known as Pyanopsion (Puanepsion), in the lunisolar calendar of the Athenians. Since our calendar is solar, the month doesn't exactly match, but Pyanopsion would be, more or less, October into November, the same months as the Canadian and U.S. Thanksgivings. In ancient Greece this was the time of the fall planting of crops like barley and winter wheat."

Source:  About.com Ancient History
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« Reply #2049 on: November 03, 2010, 11:49:37 PM »
Fabulous - thanks Rosemary - I have a book of Sophia poems that are bits and pieces  since the papyrus was tattered when found anyhow I need to look now and see if there is any poetry in thanksgiving for a harvest - what a great door of curiosity you have opened.
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« Reply #2050 on: November 04, 2010, 08:51:55 AM »
Oh, poor spinster,..rank coward!

 May I introduce you to Don Blanding, the vagabond poet.  I love his poems, and had a oopy of
them until it became warped and worn and had to be discarded.

    Some Lines Scrawled on the Door of Vagabond's House . . .


West of the sunset stands my house,
There . . and east of the dawn;
North to the Arctic runs my yard;
South to the Pole, my lawn;
Seven seas are to sail my ships
To the ends of the earth . . . beyond;
Drifter's gold is for me to spend -
For I am a vagabond.

Fabulous cities are mine to loot;
Queens of the earth to wed;
Fruits of the world are mine to eat;
The couch of a king, my bed;
All that I see is mine to keep;
Foolish the fancy seems,
But I am rich with the wealth of Sight,
The coin of the realm of dreams . . .
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« Reply #2051 on: November 04, 2010, 02:52:56 PM »
 Wow Don Blanding sure makes living on the road sound romantic and enticing - I wonder  how many of the homeless see themselves as vagabonds  as opposed to societies left overs.

My uncle by marriage to my mother's sister had a father who was a vagabond - they called him a Hobo - he  just could not stay home - my uncle's mother raised them on a small piece of land in a stone cottage living just as she did in the French part of Switzerland with garden, fruit trees, chickens - they lived off the earth and not only did they  make it but all the children played a musical instrument quite well - my uncle a violin, his brother an accordion, another brother a flute. Come to think of it their sister did not play - she sang with gusto and was a crack housekeeper. And so it appears the father came home periodically, left a package with his wife and soon after was back on the road again.

I've had some fun looking up Don Blanding - thanks for the intro Babi - so he is from Hawaii - here is another of his poems

Gingers Poem
          ~ By Don Blanding

White Ginger is like scented wings of moths
Shell Ginger is a mermaid's dainty chain
Torch Ginger is a staff of petal flame
Burning, defiant of the quenching rain
The Yellow Ginger yields a sweet perfume
To catch and hold the heart in woven leis
Red ginger is the warm blood of Hawaii
Spilling its laughter through the tropic days
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« Reply #2052 on: November 05, 2010, 08:33:13 AM »
 Ah, you see why I like him.  There are lines from "Vagabond's House"
that I memorized and can still recall. I doubt if he could be called a hobo.
He saw a lot of the world, but it was as a worker or student.  He originally studied art. One description of him reads:
                                   Artist by Nature
                                        Actor by Instinct
                                        Poet by Accident
                                         Vagabond by Choice


  I saw a picture of him that reminded me very much of a well-known
actor, but I can't think who it was.  Take a look at this site, and tell me
who you think he resembles.  http://www.don-blanding.com/
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« Reply #2053 on: November 05, 2010, 11:02:17 AM »
He has a look doesn't he reminds me of a couple of the 1930s  actors - like Errol Flynn or Tyrone Powell and for that matter there is something about him that even reminds me of Orson Wells.

OK next Tuesday morning I go in for eye surgery -  typically it would be an easy no brainer with a couple of days recoup however, I have this inherited condition (psuedoexfoliation) that is making the whole thing very risky and we will not know till the surgery is under way how it will all end up.  

Because of this condition two things - when they break up the lens it may shatter and parts float to the back of my eye which means more surgery in two weeks to get all that out - that is the easy one although, awful sounding how it is done - the second is the web like or hammock like structure that holds the lens in place is weak but more the bars holding the hammock like structure are very weak and so I could loose -

All to say that I will be off for about 2 weeks starting Tuesday and if there is anything to worry about that could affect my future sight or that I have a second surgery to schedule I will get someone to let y'all know.

Fair Anna I have  used the last email address you sent which is the one that is in this heading but the email comes back saying no such address - I wanted to let you especially know what is going on. For now I am believing that all will be well - it is really all I can do - and if it does not turn out well we can cross that bridge when it comes step by step.
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« Reply #2054 on: November 05, 2010, 11:14:58 AM »
Two German poets writing about Autumn.

Autumn Day
          ~ Rainer Maria Rilke - translation is by Guntram Deichsel:

Lord, it is time. Let the great summer go,
Lay your long shadows on the sundials,
And over harvest piles let the winds blow.

Command the last fruits to be ripe;
Grant them some other southern hour,
Urge them to completion, and with power
Drive final sweetness to the heavy grape.

Who's homeless now, will for long stay alone.
No home will build his weary hands,
He'll wake, read, write letters long to friends
And will the alleys up and down
Walk restlessly, when falling leaves dance.


Autumn Feelings
          ~ Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 
     FLOURISH greener, as ye clamber,
Oh ye leaves, to seek my chamber,

Up the trellis'd vine on high!
May ye swell, twin-berries tender,
Juicier far,--and with more splendour

Ripen, and more speedily!
O'er ye broods the sun at even
As he sinks to rest, and heaven

Softly breathes into your ear
All its fertilising fullness,
While the moon's refreshing coolness,

Magic-laden, hovers near;
And, alas! ye're watered ever

By a stream of tears that rill
From mine eyes--tears ceasing never,

Tears of love that nought can still!
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« Reply #2055 on: November 05, 2010, 11:20:02 AM »
Here is another of the English poets...I had not heard of Walter Savage Landor - here is a link explaining who he was and what he accomplished         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Savage_Landor
 
Autumn
          ~ Walter Savage Landor. 1775–1864
 
MILD is the parting year, and sweet   
  The odour of the falling spray;   
Life passes on more rudely fleet,   
  And balmless is its closing day.   
 
I wait its close, I court its gloom,            
  But mourn that never must there fall   
Or on my breast or on my tomb   
  The tear that would have soothed it all.
   
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« Reply #2056 on: November 05, 2010, 10:04:45 PM »
Barbara - I can empathise with you regarding eye problems.  I have just had a bout of something very nasty called "haemorrhagic conjunctivitis", where the conjunctiva became so congested with blood that I was unable to see and my eyes felt as though they contained stones, quite painful.  Nearly a month later I still have it, but to a much lesser extent.  

As ghastly as the above condition may seem, it would seem as just an itch compared to what you have.  I will be thinking of you next week and sending my best wishes for a successful outcome.  I, for one, will miss you and your beautiful poetry selections for two weeks.  Come back soon happy and well.

Love
Roshanarose
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« Reply #2057 on: November 06, 2010, 09:05:05 AM »
BARB, we're going to be believing with you, and praying, that your
eye surgery is 100% successful. I know you wouldn't be taking the risk
if it wasn't necessary, so I won't even go there. Just know we'll be
supporting you all the way.
  I have heard the name of Walter Savage Landor, but I can't remember in
what context.  I'm certainly not familiar with his work.
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« Reply #2058 on: November 06, 2010, 03:13:25 PM »
BARB: we will be thinking of you on Tuesday.

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« Reply #2059 on: November 06, 2010, 11:33:27 PM »
Before  I say another word BARBARA I have a prayer list added you...our church offers prayers for anyone we would like to have lifted in prayer and tomorrow I will ask them to add you to the list. My oldest daughter is legally blind because as a child she was exposed to histoplasmois   ---a fungus that occurs naturally in the soil. SHe has managed by  using special equipment and has a web site and leads a very active life..She lives in a small country town Stanardsville about  3 hours north of ,me  if anyone would like to check out her web site it is called Greene County I will post the exact link for I think we should know WHAT WE CAN DO when everything seems going the wrong way..she has to use a magnyfying glass to read menus and prices on things I do a lot of shoping for her and sewing for her as well >Her husband has been a blessing  The reason I will give you the correct address because she inspires everyone she knows  She did not say WHY ME? but instead why not me?

Ah my heart is with you Barbara  JUST in case my new email address is
fairanna@cox.net  I suppose I should beware of posting it but I will tell you I DO NOT OPEN MAIL FROM EVERYONE and add those to my junk mail and it is never opened....

God love you all ....I have been so busy    Every since I had that viral bronchitis in early July I tire so easy and just cant understand why..of course one of my dogs is eating all the weeds in my back yard which I will get rid of asap I need cool weather with dry earth and a nice day  not hot or cold

My other computer doesnt seem to be working well and this laptop is a MAC and all I can say they are smarter than me..so I dont have access to my poems and am writing new ones ...I dont think I am in touch with my poet part but will share this  one ....
November arrived and left
Warm autumn behind-
Cold rain hastened -
It's arrival-----cooled the air
Chilling the nights.
Oaks and pines and dogwood
Speak  to me--tell me
Winter is on the way.
The yard, the streets and
Every vacant patch is now -
A varied-colored  piece of ground.
The trees aflame with vibrant fire!
Winter storms ..like firemen-
Will douse the fire-
Leaving dark bleak branches-
Curling up. Sap retreats
'Til spring warms it's sleep!

New days will begin-
Marking the eternal cycle of Life-----

anna alexander
11/6/2010©


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« Reply #2060 on: November 07, 2010, 11:06:15 AM »
Barbara: My thoughts will be with you on Tuesday and I really do hope all will be well. I also have an eye problem which is as yet unresolved so truly sympathise with you. We don't know how precious our sight is until it is seriously threatened. God bless.
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« Reply #2061 on: November 07, 2010, 12:28:14 PM »
Thanks for sharing your concerns, kind thoughts and prayers - some moments are fine and then other moments I'm planning the next task to see me through the couple of weeks of limited body movement and still other moments are filled with 'what if' which I quickly try to sing out loud or something to change my head tape.

Doing nothing but trusting leaves me feeling I am without an anchor - I prefer to have a plan of what can be done to avoid or lesson the affects of whatever it is that I am supposed to trust will be well. Ah so...  A lesson in Faith and trust in the unknown which is really Hope.

I must say with as many folks who have had difficulties and care for their eyes I depend less and less on the unknown feeling more confident that what ever is will be something I can handle. Thanks for sharing...

Strange morning - here I thought I was being decadent sleeping in and because of the clock change last night it was still a very respectable time to be up on a Sunday morning. Where it did get cold here again last night the wind must not have been blowing because the house was not chilled - and thank goodness that heat did not come on - hate the heat  blowing during the night - it dries me out, raises dust so my nose clogs and I hear it so I end up waking up grrrr - I have a small electric space heater than I must pull out of the storage in the garage to place in the hallway near my bedroom - it is just enough to take the chill off the bedroom and bath so I can set the thermostat at night to 60.

Well Sunday or not it is a beautiful sunshinny day and I need to wash the quilt on my bed - I need to clean the washline first - so I am off finishing up the list preparing the house so I have everything for the 2 weeks. And I will hold close your thoughts and encouragement. Thanks...

Here are a couple of Mary Oliver poems...

Morning Poem

Every morning
the world
is created.
Under the orange

sticks of the sun
the heaped
ashes of the night
turn into leaves again

and fasten themselves to the high branches ---
and the ponds appear
like black cloth
on which are painted islands

of summer lilies.
If it is your nature
to be happy
you will swim away along the soft trails

for hours, your imagination
alighting everywhere.
And if your spirit
carries within it

the thorn
that is heavier than lead ---
if it's all you can do
to keep on trudging ---

there is still
somewhere deep within you
a beast shouting that the earth
is exactly what it wanted ---

each pond with its blazing lilies
is a prayer heard and answered
lavishly,
every morning,

whether or not
you have ever dared to be happy,
whether or not
you have ever dared to pray.


Where Does the Dance Begin, Where Does It End?

Don't call this world adorable, or useful, that's not it.
It's frisky, and a theater for more than fair winds.
The eyelash of lightning is neither good nor evil.
The struck tree burns like a pillar of gold.

But the blue rain sinks, straight to the white
feet of the trees
whose mouths open.

Doesn't the wind, turning in circles, invent the dance?
Haven't the flowers moved, slowly, across Asia, then Europe,
until at last, now, they shine
in your own yard?

Don't call this world an explanation, or even an education.

When the Sufi poet whirled, was he looking
outward, to the mountains so solidly there
in a white-capped ring, or was he looking

to the center of everything: the seed, the egg, the idea
that was also there,
beautiful as a thumb
curved and touching the finger, tenderly,
little love-ring,

as he whirled,
oh jug of breath,
in the garden of dust?

- Mary Oliver from
Why I Wake Early (2004)
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« Reply #2062 on: November 07, 2010, 12:41:33 PM »
Reading Mary Oliver it struck me - what did dear Emily  have to say about mornings... Here are a couple of Emily Dickinson morning poems.

Angels, in the early morning
May be seen the Dews among,
Stooping -- plucking -- smiling -- flying --
Do the Buds to them belong?

Angels, when the sun is hottest
May be seen the sands among,
Stooping -- plucking -- sighing -- flying --
Parched the flowers they bear along


Will there really be a "Morning"?
Is there such a thing as "Day"?
Could I see it from the mountains
If I were as tall as they?

Has it feet like Water lilies?
Has it feathers like a Bird?
Is it brought from famous countries
Of which I have never heard?

Oh some Scholar! Oh some Sailor!
Oh some Wise Men from the skies!
Please to tell a little Pilgrim
Where the place called "Morning" lies!


Good Morning -- Midnight --
I'm coming Home --
Day -- got tired of Me --
How could I -- of Him?

Sunshine was a sweet place --
I liked to stay --
But Morn -- didn't want me -- now --
So -- Goodnight -- Day!

I can look -- can't I --
When the East is Red?
The Hills -- have a way -- then --
That puts the Heart -- abroad --

You -- are not so fair -- Midnight --
I chose -- Day --
But -- please take a little Girl --
He turned away!
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #2063 on: November 07, 2010, 09:39:48 PM »
Mary Oliver, Emily Dickinson and our own Anna fair.  Poets of great distinction..  Let's hear it for the girls!
How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?  - Plato

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« Reply #2064 on: November 08, 2010, 08:01:15 AM »
 A very sensible and realistic approach, BARB. Do whatever you can to
anticipate possible needs, but at the same time hold on to your faith
that they will not be necessary. I totally understand the reponse of
Anna's daughter..."Why not me?" I am not exempt from all the world's
woes, and do not think it a lapse of faith to recognize that.

 I liked "Where Does the Dance Begin" best, I think. "Doesn't the wind,
turning in circles, invent the dance?"
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

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« Reply #2065 on: November 09, 2010, 12:18:48 AM »
Below is  my daughter's  web site her pen name is ALEX CARRIER
http://www.vgreene.com/[/b




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« Reply #2066 on: November 09, 2010, 08:22:28 AM »
 Barb's eye surgery is this morning.  We'll want to keep her in our thoughts and prayers.
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« Reply #2067 on: November 09, 2010, 03:27:39 PM »
Everysince Barbara shared her  possible problems I have lifted her in prayer and today as well  God treasures her and I know whatever happens it will what HE thinks it best.. and whatever Barbara will know what she must do ...Take heart Barbara  you are loved by many and today as every day good thoughts are coming to you....always my friend in poetry which prepares us for whatever life brings to us ..GOD BLESS  love always anna

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« Reply #2068 on: November 09, 2010, 07:38:18 PM »
Mom is doing well. She had an emergency this afternoon when her eye clouded up. Doctors had to take care of a spike in pressure. No other suregery is scheduled. Mom is healing and she said she will be back in another week or so. Barbara's daugheter, Kathamarie
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« Reply #2069 on: November 10, 2010, 08:25:30 AM »
 Thank you, KATHAMARIE, for letting us know.  I'm praying the rest of her recovery will be
uneventful and swift.  We'll look forward to having her back.
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« Reply #2070 on: November 11, 2010, 07:51:15 AM »
Cathamarie  gee I have checked your name twice and I think I  am mispelling it And I need to post this message and get ready for an early am Drs appointment So Kathamarie  THANK you so much for the information  It sounds so positive and gives us hope that your mother will be up and well and back here SOON   I  am sure you will relate love and concern and happiness at the good news...GOD BLESS ALL   anna

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« Reply #2071 on: November 11, 2010, 08:37:01 AM »
Ianthe
    by Walter Savage Landor
From you, Ianthe, little troubles pass
Like little ripples down a sunny river;
Your pleasures spring like daisies in the grass,
Cut down, and up again as blithe as ever.


  For Barb, whom we look forward to seeing up again soon, 'as blithe as ever'.
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« Reply #2072 on: November 17, 2010, 05:18:38 PM »
I remember this from when I was a youngster and had little lead farmers and farm animals rather than lead soldiers. I too made hills with my knees and rivers by folding over the sheet.

I'm getting there - still on a host of meds - but the scary is over where I was seeing as if through a fog - that med was a horror - it made me so unsteady on my feet and the headache from it was not fun - but better days are ahead - over to the Doctor tomorrow - just a few more days and I can post regularly again -  here is my childhood memory poem...

The Land of Counterpane
          by Robert Louis Stevenson

When I was sick and lay a-bed,
I had two pillows at my head,
And all my toys beside me lay,
To keep me happy all the day.

And sometimes for an hour or so
I watched my leaden soldiers go,
With different uniforms and drills,
Among the bed-clothes, through the hills;

And sometimes sent my ships in fleets
All up and down among the sheets;
Or brought my trees and houses out,
And planted cities all about.

I was the giant great and still
That sits upon the pillow-hill,
And sees before him, dale and plain,
The pleasant land of counterpane

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #2073 on: November 18, 2010, 08:38:05 AM »
 BARB, how great to hear from you!  I'm so glad to hear you are getting better.  Sorry to hear
your medication is causing problems.  That seems to be more and more the case as medicines
grow more complex.  At least it's working.
  I haven't read that Stevenson poem since I was a child; I still enjoy it.  I don't really remember
any long sessions in bed with illness.  Either I've forgotten, or I pretty much slept through them.
I tried to find a poem about 'recovering', but found most of them were for recovering alcoholics!
No doubt something will come to mind, eventually.
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« Reply #2074 on: November 18, 2010, 12:24:35 PM »
I posted these last year and since I am going back to Smith tomorrow, I'd like to  slip them in again. From the Smith College chrysanthemum show.

Remembering the Chrysanthemums
         By Lady Allspice

The autumn wind that through the knotgrass blows
Blurs the sad gazer’s eye with unshed tears;
But autumn’s guest, who last year graced this plot
Only, as yet, in dreams of night appears.
The wild geese from the North are now returning;
The dhobi’s thump at evening fills my ears.
Those golden flowers for which you see me pine
I’ll meet again at this year’s double nine.

Seeking the Chrysanthemum
         By Green Boy

The crisp day bids us go on an excursion
Resistant to the wineshop door’s temptation.
Some garden, where, before the frosts, was planted
The glory of autumn, being our destination:
Which after weary walk having found, we’ll sing
An autumn song with unsubdued elation.
And you, gold flowers, if all the poet told
You understood,would not refuse his gold!

Admiring the Chrysanthemums
         By Cloud Maiden

Transplanted treasures, dear to me as gold-
Both the pale clumps and those of darker hue!
Bare-headed by your wintry bed I sit
And, musing, hug my knees and sing to you.
None more than you the villain world disdains;
None understands your proud heart as I do
The precious hours of autumn I’ll not waste,
But bide with you and savour their full taste.

Arranging the Chrysanthemums
         By Cloud Maiden

What greater pleasure than the lute to strum
Or sip wine by your delicate display?
To hold the garden’s fragrance in one vase,
And see all autumn in a single spray?
On frosty nights I’ll dream you back again
Brave in your garden bed at close of day.
Since with your shy disdain I sympathize,
Tis you,not summer’s gaudy blooms I prize.


Celebrating the Chrysanthemums
      By River Queen

Down garden walks, in search of inspiration,
A restless demon drives me all the time
Then brush blooms into praises and the mouth
Grows acrid-sweet , hymning those scents sublime. .
Yet easier ‘twere a world of grief to tell
Than to lock autumn’s secret in one rhyme.
That miracle old Tao did once attain;
Since when a thousand bards have tried in vain.


Questioning the Chrysanthemums
         By River Queen

Since none else autumn’s mystery can explain,
I come with the murmured questions to your gate:
Who, world disdainer, shares your hiding place?
Of all the flowers why do you bloom so late?
The garden silent lies in frosty dew,
The geese return, the cricket mourns his fate
Let not speech from your silent world be banished:
Converse with me, since me you understand.

The Dream of the Chrysanthemums
         By River Queen

Light-hearted in my bed I lie
And seem to chase the moon across the sky.
Well, if immortal, I‘ll go seek old Tao,
Not imitate Zhuang’s flittering butterfly!
Following the wild goose, into sleep I slid;
From which now, startled by the cricket’s cry,
Midst cold and fog and dying leaves I wake,
With no one by to tell of my heart’s ache.


The Decay of the Chrysanthemums
         By Plaintain Lover

The feasting over and the first snow fallen, ‘
The flowers frost-stricken lie  or sideways lean
Their perfume lingering, but their gold hue dimmed.
And few poor, tattered leaves bereft of green,
Now under moonlit bench the cricket shrills,
And weary goose-files in the cold sky are seen.
Yet of your passing let me not complain:
Next autumn equinox we’ll meet again!
‘.

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« Reply #2075 on: November 19, 2010, 02:03:31 AM »
Ah the chrysanthemum - I can almost nose that musky scent that reminds me of dead leaves and a spent garden waiting for a blanket of frost.

Had to shop - I was out of everything - stopped at Whole Foods and they had prepared parsnips and carrots in an apple glaze - couldn't pass it up they were so lovely to look at along with some roasted veggies added to the plate it was a satisfying fall color combo on my plate - I was surprised eating the parsnips that I have often used in stews or mashed with sweet potatoes and even with white potatoes - this was the first I just ate them sliced, buttered and with a breath of apple - now I am thinking of other combonations to prepare using parsnips.

Well of course I had to find a poem about Parsnips - no author shown for this one...

Parsnips

I am still bitter.

I don't think anybody has noticed
I grow into the ground
purposefully moving into from out of

I am not planted

I am rooted


I am so glad folks are gardening again -  when I was a youngster nearly everyone had a vegetable garden and we ate meals and back porch treats based on what was ready to pick - we knew when it was June or August by the food we ate and where the sun was in the sky when we woke up - we didn't need a calender to tell us or even a watch to know if we were coming home late ready with our excuse that we hoped was good enough to keep us out of trouble.

Memory of knowing what vegetables were rooted and what fruits grew near the ground or on trees makes me feel a part of something bigger and I keep wondering how youngsters today relate to the world from their Ipod and food wrapped in cellophane all cut up and cooked so they never have to know if it grows in or on the ground.
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« Reply #2076 on: November 19, 2010, 08:36:44 AM »
 Do you know I've never cooked nor eaten a parsnip?  My mother never served them, so they
didn't appear in my food selection, either.  I do trust the country kids still know what's what...
the city kids haven't known since towns got big enough that the countryside was far away.
  This young poet is obviously prejudiced:  :)
    The City Vs. The Country

In the city where the colours run dry,
Or in the country where the farmers grow rye.
In the city where there are fees,
Or in the country where beauty is free.
In the city where there are loud crowds,
Or in the country where you can watch clouds.
In the city where you camp out in your room,
Or in the country where you have fun dancing with a broom.
In the city where there are polluting cars,
Or in the county where you can see stars.
In the city where you seal the deal,
Or in the country where you can heal.
In the city where you say later,
Or in the country where you can see the water.
In the city where space is tight,
Or in the country where you hold their hand in the moonlight.


Written by Haley McRae,14.
 
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« Reply #2077 on: November 19, 2010, 09:34:45 AM »
Root vegetables!  there is an extensive article about them in this weeks's New Yorker.  They were the sustenance of New Englanders, with their short growing season.  My mother often served rutabega and I still like it, but not hacking it into pieces.  Carrots, of course, beets, white turnips, she always "boiled, buttered, and served"  Now the fad is to "roast" them and do some kind of glaze, like balsamic vinegar. Parsnips?  No way.  But maybe I will try some again.
 

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« Reply #2078 on: November 19, 2010, 10:54:04 AM »
Barbara - so good to see you back again and to know that the healing is taking place.

Parsnips : love them - pulled from the ground and  steamed, served with butter  whilst they are still very white. Or roasted with other roasted vegies. My grandmother always made a parsnip wine - it was very potent and could only be drunk in moderation.
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« Reply #2079 on: November 19, 2010, 01:35:15 PM »
 :D :D I love the teenage version of the city versus the country - oh so true - I think many of us who live in cities take mental vacations of freedom by either remembering or imagining time in the country. Although, I guess there is city and then there is city -  I never lived in a high-rise and that would really be city. Many of the sit-coms take place in a high-rise apartment and like lots of movie and TV stories we think we know because it seems so real and right there in our living room. However, I am thinking there is a world of difference in knowing about and actually knowing how to successfully live in a high-rise apartment. All in all the last line is precious. It is hard to imagine young love in a crowded city.

bellemere, I guess you are no longer gathering fresh veggies from your gardens - I bet you already have had a frost and now before snow collects it is the root veggies that are the daily fare before the summer foods canned last July and August start coming off the shelves. I notice more restaurants and take-outs including rutabaga cut up and included in a harvest mixture of veggies. They seem to cook up softer quicker than carrots so that these mixtures are a source of all sorts of chewing or not packed into one forkfull.

Gumtree, your post prompted me to go on the hunt for some parsnip recipes - parsnip wine hay - I did find one in an old 1920s  insurance company give-a-way cookbook that sounds worthy of a try - I love the amounts and directions - so easy to remember - 2 cups Julianne cut parsnips and then each ingredient is half the amount of the preceding  so that next it is a cup of Julianne cut celery - a half a cup of Julianne cut red bell peppers and a quarter of a cup of cut green onions - saute - dress with a mustard vinaigrette and serve on a bed of lettuce - enough for 3 servings.

Then all of a sudden the old English Ballad made popular again in the 60s with a few modern changes to the words popped into my head - remember...

Are you going to Scarborough Fair?
Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme,
Remember me to one who lives there,
She once was a true love of mine.

Tell her to make me a cambric shirt,
Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme,
Without no seam nor needle work,
Then she'll be a true love of mine.

Tell her to find me an acre of land,
Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme,
Between the salt water and the sea strand,
Then she'll be a true love of mine.

Tell her to reap it with a sickle of leather,
Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme,
And to gather it all in a bunch of heather,
Then she'll be a true love of mine.

Are you going to Scarborough fair?
Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme,
Remember me to one who lives there,
She once was a true love of mine


Here I plant lots of rosemary and thyme because the deer won't eat them -  I noticed some commercial buildings like the front of the movie theatre are actually making a hedge with the rosemary - I thought cleaver - but alas no Parsley or sage since both are candy for the deer. Noticed when I shopped Whole Foods out front where the growing things are sold they had pots and hanging baskets for Thanksgiving with all four above mentioned herbs and stuck in the earth on a long florist spike was a dried cornhusk Turkey or lady Pilgrim. How much fun to bring the scent of herbs into the house.
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