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« Reply #1960 on: September 30, 2010, 01:54:27 AM »



The Apple Orchard


          ~ by Shawn Bailey

The dew-softened blades
of fescue wet my feet,
small brushstrokes of icy wetness
on my way to the orchard.
The sunlight scatters
the morning mist
that shelters the trees from
the horizon.
I spy the juicy red apples
lounging in the trees,
moist with dawn
and there are thousands of them.
Fruitful, edible decor.
 

Autumn Poetry

In this Discussion we share what stirs our heart -
Bring us a gift of a poem
Yours, or the work of another poet.



Discussion Leaders: Barb & fairanna


Gumtree as Australia has many varied tribes each with their own traditions and stories   so also are there many differences among the Native American tribes in the US. Hiawatha represents the North-central and North-eastern tribes who lived in the forests and along lakes and rivers -

A few years ago we spent a month discovering the poetry of a Muskogee Native American who now lives in the southwest but whose people were from the Southeast - at the time we read Jo Harjo's poetry we learned of the early traditions of the Cherokee, Muskogee Creek, Choctaw, Chickasaw, and how the Seminole established themselves in Florida as well as the great tragedy of the Trail of Tears that forced the Cherokee and Muskogee nations from their homeland in what is now Georgia and the Carolina's as well as parts of Alabama and Tennessee on a long winter march to Oklahoma Territory. We learned of the Red and White towns and all about the Red Stick War - much of their history is available on the internet if you are curious.  

here is one of Jo Harjo's poems - which by the way Harjo is one of the most popular names among the Muskogee Creeks

Ah, Ah
          ~ by Joy Harjo
 
for Lurline McGregor

Ah, ah cries the crow arching toward the heavy sky over the marina.
Lands on the crown of the palm tree.

Ah, ah slaps the urgent cove of ocean swimming through the slips.
We carry canoes to the edge of the salt.

Ah, ah groans the crew with the weight, the winds cutting skin.
We claim our seats. Pelicans perch in the draft for fish.

Ah, ah beats our lungs and we are racing into the waves.
Though there are worlds below us and above us, we are straight ahead.

Ah, ah tatttoos the engines of your plane against the sky—away from these waters.
Each paddle stroke follows the curve from reach to loss.

Ah, ah calls the sun from a fishing boat with a pale, yellow sail. We fly by
on our return, over the net of eternity thrown out for stars.

Ah, ah scrapes the hull of my soul. Ah, ah.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1961 on: September 30, 2010, 02:07:58 AM »
And here are Cheokee poets...

The Blue Bird Song
          ~ by Camile K. Bishop (Windsong)

In the early morning mist
upon the thin frayed branch
Of the silver maple tree
Sits a beauty of Creation
He is named Bluebird by the Cherokee
He is one of many who carry the feather of healing
That comes from ancient ways
Through prayer and the Spirit

Ah Ho!



Sweet Cherokee Garden
          ~ Michele Bonnell

The trip was long

Winding through congested streets, bumper nudging traffic
Escaping the frowns and frazzle of urban tension

The trip was long

Remembering the stories of my great-grandmother
The gift of sharing my ancestors' story

The trip was long

As alone in body but not in spirit the journey begins
The mountains gently lure

The trip was long

Cedar scent drifts on the wind, warm like home-cooked dinner
When the screen door swings open

A sweet garden is here

Beside the museum that speaks to my soul
Sharing our story

A sweet garden is here

Inviting new memories woven with the call of yesterday
The embrace of the mountains surrounding

A sweet garden is here

Shining in the speckled sunlight, breathing life anew
Drums of the Powwow gently rock the fertile earth

A sweet garden is here

A grown child returns giving thanks to
Great-grandmother for the stories that brought her back to

A sweet Cherokee garden
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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Re: Poetry Page
« Reply #1962 on: September 30, 2010, 08:24:14 AM »
Pitjantjatjara  Wow, I'm impressed you can spell that one, GUM. What I have
read about the spiritual 'trails' of the indigenous of Australia has been
fascinating. I may have read more books situated in Australia than any other
country except England. And the U.S., of course. A rugged country, with many
similarities to Texas.
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

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« Reply #1963 on: September 30, 2010, 01:08:56 PM »
Barbara - How wonderful for you exploring the poetry of the Native Americans. Such different cultures and yet such similarities of mind and soul. The Australian Aboriginal culture expresses itself well through their art and of course through the stories of the 'Dreamtime' - their creation myths which vary from tribe to tribe but fundamentally are the same. Thanks again for informing me ... I think we all agree that it would take many lifetimes to read about everything that interests us.

Babi: To us, Pitjantjatjara and other tribal names are something like Cherokee and Iroquois to you.

I'm surprised that you've read lots of  books situated in Australia - whenever I mention an Aussie author or  book on these boards I can sometimes feel everyone's eyes glazing over -which is a shame as Aussie literature is alive and well and takes many forms.

 And yes, in places, Australia could be likened to what I imagine Texas is like. It's useful to remember that Australia is almost exactly the same size as America - the difference amounts to only a couple of hundred square metres. So, geographically, the country is as diverse as yours - tropical rainforests, mountains, arid deserts, inland floodplains and lakes, rolling hill country, temperate zones, stunning coastlines etc.  Your phrase ' a rugged country' brought an iconic poem to my mind which I'll post - hope you enjoy it.
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« Reply #1964 on: September 30, 2010, 01:33:29 PM »
This iconic poem was written by a young women while she was in England and feeling homesick for Australia.

My Country

 Dorothea MacKellar


The love of field and coppice,
Of green and shaded lanes,
Of ordered woods and gardens
Is running in your veins,
Strong love of grey-blue distance
Brown streams and soft dim skies,
I know, but cannot share it,
My love is otherwise
.

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of rugged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains,
I love her far horizons,
I love her jewel sea,
Her beauty and her terror,
The wide brown land for me.


A stark white ring-barked forest
All tragic to the moon,
The sapphire-misted mountains,
The hot gold hush of noon,
Green tangle of the brushes,
Where lithe lianas coil,
And orchids deck the treetops
And ferns the warm dark soil.



Core of my heart, my country!
Her pitiless blue sky,
When sick at heart, around us
We see the cattle die –
But then the grey clouds gather,
And we can bless again
The drumming of an army
The steady soaking rain


Core of my heart, my country!
Land of the Rainbow Gold,
For flood, and fire and famine,
She pays us back threefold –
Over the thirsty paddocks,
Watch after many days,
The filmy veil of greenness

That thickens as we gaze.

An opal hearted country,
A wilful, lavish land –
All you who have not loved her
You will not understand –
Though earth holds many splendours,
Wherever I may die,
I know to what brown country
My homing thoughts will fly.
Reading is an art and the reader an artist. Holbrook Jackson

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« Reply #1965 on: September 30, 2010, 07:13:10 PM »
Like thousands of Australian schoolchildren I learned "My Country".  It always reminds me of my primary school playground and our free milk; our meat or apple pies; and the occasional caning of some unfortunate boy.  Vivid memories and a delight to revisit that poem.  

It also makes me remember the "Norah" books, about growing up on a cattle property and being able to ride every day.  How envious I was of Norah and her friends.  "My Country" makes me remember hot Christmases and swimming at the local waterholes; seeing snakes; almost sitting on a frill neck; spotting the elusive platypus; kangaroos bounding along in large mobs .  It also makes me remember the blue-grey of the eucalyptus; the far-off scent of bushfire and the red-hot pokers in my father's garden.  Sights, sounds and scents all brought back to me by that poem. Thanks Gum.
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« Reply #1966 on: September 30, 2010, 07:56:09 PM »
How lovely to have a picture of the memories from Australia - keep 'em coming...

here is an age old

Sonnet 73
           ~ William Shakespeare (1609)

That time of year thou mayst in me behold
When yellow leaves, or none, or few, do hang
Upon those boughs which shake against the cold,
Bare ruined choirs, where late the sweet birds sang.
In me thou see’st the twilight of such day
As after sunset fadeth in the west;
Which by and by black night doth take away,
Death’s second self, that seals up all in rest.
In me thou see’st the glowing of such fire,
That on the ashes of his youth doth lie,
As the deathbed whereon it must expire,
Consumed with that which it was nourished by.
This thou perceiv’st, which makes thy love more strong,
To love that well which thou must leave ere long.

 
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1967 on: October 01, 2010, 04:52:55 AM »
Roshanarose: Yes, we all learned My Country at school - though school days would be the last thing it brings to my mind. The imagery is very powerful and for me evokes elements of the continent  itself and forces of nature that are always evident right across this, our 'wilful, lavish land'
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« Reply #1968 on: October 01, 2010, 05:22:10 AM »
Is James Lister Cuthbertson  a well known poet in Australia - this is one of his poems but I do not know him.

An Australian Sunrise

The Morning Star paled slowly, the Cross hung low to the sea,
And down the shadowy reaches the tide came swirling free,
The lustrous purple blackness of the soft Australian night,
Waned in the gray awakening that heralded the light;
Still in the dying darkness, still in the forest dim
The pearly dew of the dawning clung to each giant limb,
Till the sun came up from ocean, red with the cold sea mist,
And smote on the limestone ridges, and the shining tree-tops kissed;
Then the fiery Scorpion vanished, the magpie's note was heard,
And the wind in the she-oak wavered, and the honeysuckles stirred,
The airy golden vapour rose from the river breast,
The kingfisher came darting out of his crannied nest,
And the bulrushes and reed-beds put off their sallow gray
And burnt with cloudy crimson at dawning of the day.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1969 on: October 01, 2010, 05:38:33 AM »
No, Barbara - Cuthbertson is not well known. Most of his stuff was 'occasional' verses written for the boys and masters at Geelong Grammar School. I have a memory that he fell from favour and was sent packing back to England - maybe for inappropriate behaviour toward the boys. - that may be incorrect.
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« Reply #1970 on: October 01, 2010, 05:53:01 AM »
Here's one by Henry Kendall - a different kind of iconic poet from say, Paterson, Lawson et al. His Englishness shows through especially in choice of language which he uses in ways that Paterson and Lawson et al do not.

The Australian Bellbird's has a singular, chiming note which carries well in the bush - it has often saved men (especially pioneer men) from dying of thirst by directing them to water. The bird itself is pretty nondescript.

Bellbirds – Henry Kendall

By channels of coolness the echoes are calling,
And down the dim gorges I hear the creek falling;
It lives in the mountain where moss and the sedges
Touch with their beauty the banks and the ledges.
Through breaks in the cedar and sycamore bowers
Struggles the light that is love to the flowers,
And. softer than slumber, and sweeter than singing,
The notes of the bellbirds are running and ringing.

The silver voiced bellbirds, the darlings of daytime!
They sing in September their songs of the May-time;
When shadows wax strong, and the thunder bolts hurtle,
They hide with their fear in the leaves of the myrtle.
When rain and the sunshine shine mingled together,
They start up like fairies that follow fair weather;
And straightway the hues of  their feathers unfolden
Are the green and the purple, the blue and the golden.

October, the maiden of bright yellow tresses,
Loiters for love in these cool wildernesses,
Loiters, knee deep, in the grasses, to listen,
Where dripping rocks gleam and leafy pools glisten:
Then is the time when the  water moons splendid
Break with their gold, and are scattered or blended
Over the creeks, till the woodlands have warning
Of songs of the Bellbird and wings of the Morning.

Welcome as waters unkissed by the summers
Are the voices of bellbirds to the thirsty far comers.
When fiery December sets foot in the forest,
And the need of the wayfarer presses the sorest,
Pent in the ridges and for ever and ever
The bellbirds direct him to spring and to river,
With ring and with ripple, like runnels whose torrents
Are toned by the pebbles and the leaves in the currents.

Often I sit, looking back to a childhood,
Mixt with the sights and the sounds of the wildwood,
Longing for power and the sweetness to fashion,
Lyrics with beats like the heartbeats of Passipn: -
Songs interwoven of lights and of laughters
Borrowed from bell-birds in far forest rafters;
So I might keep in the city and alleys
The beauty and strength of the deep mountain valleys;
Charming to slumber the pain of my losses.
With glimpses of creeks and a vision of mosses.
Reading is an art and the reader an artist. Holbrook Jackson

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« Reply #1971 on: October 02, 2010, 09:12:57 AM »
A great poem, GUM. I guess we all love the land we were born too and knew as children. I, for one, cannot be happy long where there are no trees around me.  But Ms McKellar evokes all the beauties of her 'brown land'.
  I found this little quote and thought it was good.
Poetry helps us acknowledge and notice our own places with more care.
     What does San Antonio smell like? Jasmine drift. Honeysuckle, mountain laurel. When we have houseguests, they say, 'My God! Your birds are so loud!' Or, 'Oh those trains at 2:00 a.m. How do you sleep?' After all these years they have become our lullabies.

– Naomi Shihab Nye
   
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« Reply #1972 on: October 03, 2010, 04:13:02 PM »
COME LITTLE LEAVES
          ~ by George Cooper

"Come, little leaves" said the wind one day,
"Come over the meadows with me, and play;
Put on your dresses of red and gold;
Summer is gone, and the days grow cold."

Soon as the leaves heard the wind's loud call,
Down they came fluttering, one and all;
Over the brown fields they danced and flew,
Singing the soft little songs they knew.

"Cricket, good-bye, we've been friends so long;
Little brook, sing us your farewell song-
Say you're sorry to see us go;
Ah! you are sorry, right well we know.

"Dear little lambs, in your fleecy fold,
Mother will keep you from harm and cold;
Fondly we've watched you in vale and glade;
Say, will you dream of our loving shade?"

Dancing and whirling the little leaves went;
Winter had called them and they were content-
Soon fast asleep in their earthly beds,
The snow laid a soft mantle over their heads.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1973 on: October 03, 2010, 04:16:10 PM »
October's Bright Blue Weather 
          ~ Helen Hunt Jackson 
 
  O suns and skies and clouds of June,
And flowers of June together,
Ye cannot rival for one hour
October's bright blue weather;

When loud the bumblebee makes haste,
Belated, thriftless vagrant,
And goldenrod is dying fast,
And lanes with grapes are fragrant;

When gentians roll their fingers tight
To save them for the morning,
And chestnuts fall from satin burrs
Without a sound of warning;

When on the ground red apples lie
In piles like jewels shining,
And redder still on old stone walls
Are leaves of woodbine twining;

When all the lovely wayside things
Their white-winged seeds are sowing,
And in the fields still green and fair,
Late aftermaths are growing;

When springs run low, and on the brooks,
In idle golden freighting,
Bright leaves sink noiseless in the hush
Of woods, for winter waiting;

When comrades seek sweet country haunts,
By twos and twos together,
And count like misers, hour by hour,
October's bright blue weather.

O sun and skies and flowers of June,
Count all your boasts together,
Love loveth best of all the year
October's bright blue weather.



 
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« Reply #1974 on: October 03, 2010, 04:25:04 PM »
And for our Australian friends...

Letter to Joanne Kyger
          ~ Robert Adamson

I’ve always wanted to use the word ‘sempiternal’ —
your concept of the second soul
as an animal spirit, and your lines :
‘If it dies, you die
That’s it.’
gives me a chance.
I first came across that word
in a poem by Eliot, and knew even then
it was trouble. That was long before
I knew Old Possum once wore green pancake
makeup to the Bank (think of him saying
‘sempiternal’ in drag).

When I saw you in California
I felt as if I was walking through a past
I’d not actually lived, it was a case of
the years as books rather than ‘the years as catches’.

The hills around Bolinas remind me
of Bulli Pass, the dome of your sky hung with
turkey buzzards
instead of pelicans.
The roadkill was mainly skunks
rather than wombats,
we saw a herd of elk grazing on a cliff —
I noticed they held their heads
and pricked their ears like kangaroos except
they were on all fours.

The humming birds at your feeder
were like bogong moths, except better dressed,
and many of the poets in California we met were honeyeaters too.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1975 on: October 04, 2010, 09:17:16 AM »
 October is definitely my month, BARB, and I have always loved it's 'bright
blue weather". Cool enough to appreciate a sweater, sunny enough to make
the 'coolth' pleasant.

 Mr. Adamson is a whimsical fellow.  Humming birds like bogong moths, only better-dressed.
And the tidbit about T.S. Eliot and the green pancake makeup!  I assume that's true and he
didn't just make it up.  Who would think of something like that?

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« Reply #1976 on: October 04, 2010, 09:55:35 AM »
Autumn chrysanthemums have beautiful color
   ~ by T'ao Ch'ien (365 - 427)

Autumn chrysanthemums have beautiful color,
With dew in my clothes I pluck their flowers.
I float this thing in wine to forget my sorrow,
To leave far behind my thoughts of the world.
Alone, I pour myself a goblet of wine;
When the cup is empty, the pot pours for itself.
As the sun sets, all activities cease;
Homing birds, they hurry to the woods singing.
Haughtily, I whistle below the eastern balcony --
I've found again the meaning of life.

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1977 on: October 04, 2010, 12:10:56 PM »
Rainy am here in Va and cool   Welcomed after summers scorching heat ...my poetry here, members of the poetry society of VA have a challenge for each meeting ..Next Tuesday we are supposed to use the word apogee at the end of a poem Interestingly I wrote one while I was in California and intended to use it .but was inspired to write a new one and will share it with you.....I will give you a report of the meeting next Tues and how it was accepted..
october

October is the doorway to winter-
what falls from the sky
is rain not snow--
days are crisp
evenings light ---
and night is slow to come.
leaves reluctantly say goodbye-
pile their beauty on the ground.
Ancient oaks always keep a few--
when winter arrives ---
they look like old men
with raggedy, leafy beards.
We have aged together -
for almost forty years.
I have watched them grow-
for all those years.
While they have become taller---
I am a bit shorter and near my end.
So I wonder while I be here?
When they reach their apogee.

anna alexander
October 4 2010
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« Reply #1978 on: October 04, 2010, 08:11:50 PM »
Thanks Barbara - I enjoyed the comparisons in "Letter to Joanne Kyger".
How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?  - Plato

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« Reply #1979 on: October 05, 2010, 08:53:37 AM »
Strange, isn't it, ANNA, how we grow taller as we grow up, and shorter as we grow old.

 I have a poem by Anne Bradstreet here.  It seems to be as though is cut off unfinished, but..
 the truth of it remains the same.

 OLD AGE

by: Anne Bradstreet (c.1612-1672)

My memory is short, and braine is dry.
My Almond-tree (gray haires) doth flourish now,
And back, once straight, begins apace to bow.
My grinders now are few, my sight doth faile
My skin is wrinkled, and my cheeks are pale.
No more rejoyce, at musickes pleasant noyse.
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« Reply #1980 on: October 05, 2010, 03:25:43 PM »
My mother always talked about October's "bright blue weather". She must have known that poem.

I loved the poem about the Australian bellbird. If you wonder what he sounds like, here he is:

http://home.iprimus.com.au/punkclown/PunkClown/Bellbird.htm

And for contrast, here's the kookaberra:

http://home.iprimus.com.au/punkclown/Punkclown/Kooka.htm

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« Reply #1981 on: October 05, 2010, 10:36:00 PM »
fairanna - Your poem was so beautiful.  More please.  Conversely, October is the doorway to Summer here, and my beautiful daughter was born on October 4th.  So I love October.
How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?  - Plato

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« Reply #1982 on: October 07, 2010, 09:33:46 AM »
Moment in Time
          ~ by Cynthia Kepp

We talked,
We walked,
for a Moment in Time.

You passed through my life that day and left your mark.
You may never pass my way again,
Or you may stay for a lifetime.

No matter what,
I want to say thank you for the impression you made
that will stay with me for eternity.

I enjoyed the walk,
I enjoyed the talk.
I am blessed for that moment in time.

The first time I saw you I knew you would affect my life,
though your role I did not know.
I asked myself, "Why is he alone?
Why does he sit so quiet, all alone?
Is he sad?
Is he glad to be alone?
Is he alone?
Is he lonely? "
There is so much I want to know.

I asked myself, "Why him?
When so many people pass through my life each day,
why him? "

What attracts me to you?
What makes me want to know more?
I want to know.

Even if my questions are never answered,
There is one thing I want you to know.
I have been blessed by the effect you had on me in that
Moment in Time.

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1983 on: October 07, 2010, 09:44:35 AM »
The Museum of Stones
          ~ by Carolyn Forché 

This is your museum of stones, assembled in matchbox and tin,

collected from roadside, culvert, and viaduct,

battlefield, threshing floor, basilica, abattoir,

stones loosened by tanks in the streets

of a city whose earliest map was drawn in ink on linen,

schoolyard stones in the hand of a corpse,

pebble from Apollinaire’s oui,

stone of the mind within us

carried from one silence to another,

stone of cromlech and cairn, schist and shale, hornblende,

agate, marble, millstones, and ruins of choirs and shipyards,

chalk, marl, and mudstone from temples and tombs,

stone from the silvery grass near the scaffold,

stone from the tunnel lined with bones,

lava of the city’s entombment,

chipped from lighthouse, cell wall, scriptorium,

paving stones from the hands of those who rose against the army,

stones where the bells had fallen, where the bridges were blown,

those that had flown through windows and weighted petitions,

feldspar, rose quartz, slate, blueschist, gneiss, and chert,

fragments of an abbey at dusk, sandstone toe

of a Buddha mortared at Bamiyan,

stone from the hill of three crosses and a crypt,

from a chimney where storks cried like human children,

stones newly fallen from stars, a stillness of stones, a heart,

altar and boundary stone, marker and vessel, first cast, lode, and hail,

bridge stones and others to pave and shut up with,

stone apple, stone basil, beech, berry, stone brake,

stone bramble, stone fern, lichen, liverwort, pippin, and root,

concretion of the body, as blind as cold as deaf,

all earth a quarry, all life a labor, stone-faced, stone-drunk

with hope that this assemblage, taken together, would become

a shrine or holy place, an ossuary, immovable and sacred,

like the stone that marked the path of the sun as it entered the human dawn.


“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1984 on: October 09, 2010, 09:17:32 AM »

   THE MOMENT
     Margaret Atwood  
 
  The moment when, after many years
of hard work and a long voyage
you stand in the centre of your room,
house, half-acre, square mile, island, country,
knowing at last how you got there,
and say, I own this,

is the same moment when the trees unloose
their soft arms from around you,
the birds take back their language,
the cliffs fissure and collapse,
the air moves back from you like a wave
and you can't breathe.

No, they whisper. You own nothing.
You were a visitor, time after time
climbing the hill, planting the flag, proclaiming.
We never belonged to you.
You never found us.
It was always the other way round.
 
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« Reply #1985 on: October 09, 2010, 12:55:59 PM »
Ah Margaret Atwood nailed it didn't she...

Here is one from schooldays with bits and pieces often quoted by the best of speakers.

To the Virgins, to make much of Time,
          ~ by Robert Herrick

Gather ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying:
And this same flower that smiles today
To-morrow will be dying.

The glorious lamp of heaven, the sun,
The higher he’s a-getting,
The sooner will his race be run,
And nearer he’s to setting.

That age is best which is the first,
When youth and blood are warmer,
But being spent, the worse, and worst,
Times still succeed the former.

Then be not coy, but use your time,
And while ye may, go marry:
For having lost but once your prime,
You may for ever tarry.


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« Reply #1986 on: October 09, 2010, 01:16:45 PM »
 I found this wonderful site - if you have ever marveled at the construction and feel of a book from the Everyman Library their site explains the story. I purchased many an Everyman edition but did not know they had a series of poetry books - I think with all my books I cannot add another and yet, this publisher builds a beautiful book that you can hardly believe is as affordable as many of the books piled high on the tables of a book store.

http://www.randomhouse.com/knopf/classics/about.html

Poem for Everyman
          ~ By John Wood

I will present you
parts
of
my
self
slowly
if you are patient and tender.
I will open drawers
that mostly stay closed
and bring out places and people and things
sounds and smells, loves and frustrations, hopes and sadness,
bits and pieces of three decades of life
that have been grabbed off
in chunks
and found lying in my hands.
they have eaten
their way into my memory,
carved their way into
my heart.
altogether-you or I will never see them-
they are me.
If you regard them lightly,
deny they are important
or worse judge them
I will quietly, slowly,
begin to wrap them up,
in small pieces of velvet,
like worn silver and gold jewelry,
tuck them away
in a small wooden chest of drawers
and close.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1987 on: October 10, 2010, 09:28:35 AM »
Ah, BARB, you have gone straight to the heart of an old love/lust....the yearning for books.  I
have firmly squelched that desire in these later years. My shelves are full and my wallet is thin.
But thinking of the Everyman library and reading John Wood's poem...ah, well, I'll enjoy the
nostalgia a while.
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« Reply #1988 on: October 10, 2010, 04:36:19 PM »
 I read that Seamus Heaney is verly ill and may be near the end of his life... in the way of a prayer here is one of his more touching poems.

1. Sunlight

There was a sunlit absence.
The helmeted pump in the yard
heated its iron,
water honeyed

in the slung bucket
and the sun stood
like a griddle cooling
against the wall

of each long afternoon.
So, her hands scuffled
over the bakeboard,
the reddening stove

sent its plaque of heat
against her where she stood
in a floury apron
by the window.

Now she dusts the board
with a goose's wing,
now sits, broad-lapped,
with whitened nails

and measling shins:
here is a space
again, the scone rising
to the tick of two clocks.

And here is love
like a tinsmith's scoop
sunk past its gleam
in the meal-bin.


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« Reply #1989 on: October 11, 2010, 09:42:08 AM »
 Seamus Heaney is new to me.  I really like the poem, and I'm sorry to hear he is so ill.  I made
a quick detour to learn more about him, and lo!, he's a Nobel prize winner in literature!  I read
a few of his poems. Very similar in invoking scenes, textures, childhood memories.
 
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« Reply #1990 on: October 11, 2010, 12:05:19 PM »
Yes, back during SeniorNet days and when we first started on this site we were focusing on one poet a month and one of the months Annafair chose Seamus Heaney - many of the poems we enjoyed more than others were about the simple activities around a home and farm. The Irish have a way with words like no other - we see it among our leaders - those with Irish Heritage have a silver tongue about the prfound as well as the simplest of life's activities.

This is one of  his poems I remember we shared and at the time it became one of the favorites for the group.

Digging
          ~ by Seamus Heaney

Between my finger and my thumb
The squat pen rests: snug as a gun.

Under my window, a clean rasping sound
When the spade sinks into gravelly ground:
My father, digging. I look down

Till his straining rump among the flowerbeds
Bends low, comes up twenty years away
Stooping in rhythm through potato drills
Where he was digging.

The coarse boot nestled on the lug, the shaft against the inside knee was levered firmly.
He rooted out tall tops, buried the bright edge deep
To scatter new potatoes that we picked
Loving their cool hardness in our hands.

By God, the old man could handle a spade.
Just like his old man.

My grandfather cut more turf in a day
Than any other man on Toner's bog.
Once I carried him milk in a bottle
Corked sloppily with paper. He straightened up
To drink it, then fell to right away
Nicking and slicing neatly, heaving sods
Over his shoulder, going down and down
For the good turf. Digging.

The cold smell of potato mould, the squelch and slap
Of soggy peat, the curt cuts of an edge
Through living roots awaken in my head.
But I've no spade to follow men like them.

Between my finger and my thumb
The squat pen rests.
I'll dig with it.

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1991 on: October 12, 2010, 09:07:52 AM »
 Oh, excellent!  Too often those whose skill lies with a 'pen' rather than a homely tool, fail to
give the digger the respect that is his due.  I can well recall the time my stepmother felt the need
to chide me with, "You have book sense but no horse sense."  We do need to respect, and appreciate, those with the horse sense.   :)

 I found this bit of whimsy. It made me smile, so I'll share it.

              COMMON SENSE
  I have no genius. Though I make no doubt,
Sage reader, thou would’st soon have found this out:
I tell thee, lest thou waste thy precious time
In seeking here for aught but sense and rhyme—
Plain common sense; but no ecstatic feats,
And rhymes at least as good as Mister Keates’*. 
 Time was when bards were few: then might you see
In Button’s room the whole fraternity;
But now, like Egypt’s frogs, on every hand
They spread and croak and darken all the land: 
[Charles Hughes Terrot]
   
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« Reply #1992 on: October 12, 2010, 11:54:55 AM »
Age wears me down and my energy since the viral bronchitis this summer is much less than before and much less now when I need more  THANKS for Seamus Heaney I LOVED HIS POEMS the pictures he painted with words were life to me for I could see and feel what my grandparents knew and shared with me...they were already old when I was young and now I am old  but like them I have stayed young in my heart and mind and soul....I'm off this eve to read the poem I shared ..but it is not age that tires me but the  result of the bronchitis and the STRONG antibiotic I was given .....ah well it has been nice  a bit warmer here for a few days and tomorrow a return to Octobers "bright blue weather" and the a feel of a "nip in the weather " AND I loved the Australian poets and have often wished I could go there ...it sounds a bit like it used to be here ..God Bless to all....anna

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« Reply #1993 on: October 12, 2010, 10:30:11 PM »
For fairanna in particular and explorers of the lyrical in general.  

It is with deep respect of the Aboriginal people of Australia and the land that is theirs upon which I stand, that I submit this poem from a poet much admired and missed.

We Are Going
by Oodgeroo Noonuccal

They came in to the little town
A semi-naked band subdued and silent
All that remained of their tribe.
They came here to the place of their old bora ground
Where now the many white men hurry about like ants.
Notice of the estate agent reads: 'Rubbish May Be Tipped Here'.
Now it half covers the traces of the old bora ring.
'We are as strangers here now, but the white tribe are the strangers.
We belong here, we are of the old ways.
We are the corroboree and the bora ground,
We are the old ceremonies, the laws of the elders.
We are the wonder tales of Dream Time, the tribal legends told.
We are the past, the hunts and the laughing games, the wandering camp fires.
We are the lightening bolt over Gaphembah Hill
Quick and terrible,
And the Thunderer after him, that loud fellow.
We are the quiet daybreak paling the dark lagoon.
We are the shadow-ghosts creeping back as the camp fires burn low.
We are nature and the past, all the old ways
Gone now and scattered.
The scrubs are gone, the hunting and the laughter.
The eagle is gone, the emu and the kangaroo are gone from this place.
The bora ring is gone.
The corroboree is gone.
And we are going.'
   
Oodgeroo Noonuccal was born Kathleen Jean Mary Ruska on 32 November 1920.  She was born on Stradbroke Island - Minjerribah, off the South Queensland Coast of Australia.  Her ethnicity was Quandamooka. 

In 1985 she appeared with her grandson, Denis Walker (Jr) in Bruce Beresford’s film The Fringe Dwellers.

In 1988 she adopted a traditional name: Oodgeroo (meaning "paperbark tree") Noonuccal (her tribe's name).[17] That same year she returned her MBE in protest and to make a political statement at the condition of her people in the year of Australia's Bicentenary celebrations.[17] She died in 1993.

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« Reply #1994 on: October 13, 2010, 02:51:42 AM »
Roshanarose Thanks for reminding me of Oodgeroo. She was never afraid to stand up and be counted. Her English surname Ruska is intriguing - the 'ka' ending has several connotations in European languages or is it just slang? I should go check it out.

Barbara I used to read a lot of Seamus Heaney - he always seems to get his message across in seemingly simple language. His translation of Beowulf is very powerful and very readable. Here's a little from the first page -

from Beowulf translated by Seamus Heaney

Afterwards a boy child was born to Shield,
a cub in the yard, a comfort sent
by God to that nation. He knew what they had tholed,
the long times and troubles they'd come through
without a leader; so the Lord of Life,
the glorious Almighty, made this man renowned.
Shield had fathered a famous son:
Beow's name was known through the north.
And a young prince must be prudent like that,
giving freely while his father lives
so that afterwards in age when fighting starts
steadfast companions will stand by him
and hold the line. Behaviour that's admired
is the path to power among people everywhere.


and a little further on:

These were hard times, heart breaking
for the prince of the Shieldings: powerful counsellors,
the highest in the land, would lend advice,
plotting how best the bold defenders
might resist and beat off sudden attacks.
Sometimes at pagan shrines they vowed
offerings to idols, swore oaths
that the killer of souls might come to their aid
and save the people. That was their way,
their heathenish hope; deep in their hearts
they remembered hell. The Almighty Judge
 of good deeds and bad, the Lord God,
 Head of the Heavens and High King of the World,
was unknown to them. Oh, cursed is he
who in time of trouble has to thrust his soul
to the fire's embrace, forfeiting help;
he has nowhere to turn. But blessed is he
 who after death can approach the Lord
and find friendship in the Father's embrace.

So that troubled time continued, woe
that never stopped, steady affliction
for Halfdane's son, too hard an ordeal.
There was panic after dark, people endured
raids in the night, riven by the terror



Beowulf is a wonderful piece- one can find parallels throughout history and in the present day.

Fairanna Sorry to know you're still feeling not quite yourself and hope your health will soon improve. Antibiotics can be the very devil and play havoc with one's system. Take care.
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« Reply #1995 on: October 13, 2010, 05:04:15 AM »
I've been glued to my computer monitor watching the Chilean miners rise in a metal cage from a pipe in the ground - Seeing these survivors and reading reams of information now available about surviving a trauma I thought I would find a poem about surviving - I was not prepared for the vast number of painful experiences that survivors have written about.

I did not know this poem by a well-known World War One poet whose work I have read many times. The poem may be about a war that took place 100 years ago however, it could be written today about the experience of returning soldiers -

We see the same affects among abused children and battered wives - among survivors of kidnapping, roadside bombs, floods, death camps, and those whose opportunity to achieve are denied them all over the world because of their race, sex, creed or color. Most of them have a story of survival - It is astonishing to realize how much pain exists and yet, we seldom talk about the courage, the bravery, the fortitude, the drive to survive that quietly surrounds us among everyday survivors that pass through our lives.  

I am including a second poem because I think if we did a bit more listening as the poem suggests, while we acknowledge our own survival strengths and skills we could all walk a little taller while being more humble and compassionate to others. Don't mean to preach - it is just that this concept of strength as a bond among survivors is a glorious gift I have overlooked that is as meaningful as a triumphant win by a sports team.

Survivors
          ~ Siegfried Sassoon [Oct. 1917]

No doubt they'll soon get well; the shock and strain
Have caused their stammering, disconnected talk.
Of course they're "longing to go out again,"--
These boys with old, scared faces, learning to walk,
They'll soon forget their haunted nights; their cowed
Subjection to the ghosts of friends who died,--
Their dreams that drip with murder; and they'll be proud
Of glorious war that shatter'd all their pride ...
Men who went out to battle, grim and glad;
Children, with eyes that hate you, broken and mad.


The second survival poem needs its own post...

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« Reply #1996 on: October 13, 2010, 05:06:20 AM »
Please Listen ~ a poem by a survivor


When I ask you to listen to me and you start giving me advice, you have not done what I asked.

When I ask you to listen to me and you begin to tell me why I shouldn't feel that way, you are trampling on my feelings.

When I ask you to listen to me and you feel you have to do something to solve my problem, you have failed me, strange as that may seem.

Listen! All I ask is that you listen. Don't talk or do - just hear me.

Advice is cheap; 20 cents will get you both Dear Abby and Billy Graham in the same newspaper,  and I can do for myself; I am not helpless. Maybe discouraged and faltering, but not helpless. 

When you do something for me that I can and need to do for myself, you contribute to my fear and inadequacy. But when you accept as a simple fact that I feel what I feel, no matter how irrational, then I can stop trying to convince you and get about this business of understanding what's behind this irrational feeling.

And when that's clear, the answers are obvious and I don't need advice. Irrational feelings make sense when we understand what's behind them.

Perhaps that's why prayer works, sometimes, for some people - because G*d is mute, and he doesn't give advice or try to fix things. G*d just listens and lets you work it out for yourself.

So please listen, and just hear me.
And if you want to talk, wait a minute
for your turn - and I will listen to you.

by Author Unknown
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« Reply #1997 on: October 13, 2010, 05:16:50 AM »
Gumtree thanks you have helped me make up my mind - I have the book and the Cd of Seamus Heaney reading Beowulf and thought I should pass it on but had no idea to whom. I have now decided after seeing the words in print again - I am the one who admired and have the good memory of reading while listening to him read on this tape so why get rid of it - If I only visit it again one time it is better than the tape ending up on a heap at the used books store with no guarantee it would ever be listened to with as much joy as it deserves.
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« Reply #1998 on: October 13, 2010, 05:39:05 AM »
and Babi your observation about common sense again the Chilean Miners are hoisted up by old fashioned hand built nuts and bolts along with a wheel that looks like an illustration for an erector set sold at Christmas. With all our technology it is heartwarming to see  hands using hammers and rope and steel cable to get a life saving job accomplished.

The Hammer
          ~ by Carl Sandburg
 
I have seen
The old gods go
And the new gods come.

Day by day
And year by year
The idols fall
And the idols rise.

Today
I worship the hammer.
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« Reply #1999 on: October 13, 2010, 05:48:45 AM »
ah and this reminds us that we are each the center of the Earth - which in his words is what I think Oodgeroo Noonuccal
is saying... thanks for sharing a bit of Australia with us...and now here is a bit from a Muscogee-Cherokee Native American.

My House is the Red Earth
          ~ by Joy Harjo

My house is the red earth; it could be the center of the world. I’ve heard New York, Paris, or Tokyo called the center of the world, but I say it is magnificently humble. You could drive by and miss it. Radio waves can obscure it. Words cannot construct it, for there are some sounds left to sacred wordless form. For instance, that fool crow, picking through trash near the corral, understands the center of the world as greasy strips of fat. Just ask him. He doesn’t have to say that the earth has turned scarlet through fierce belief, after centuries of heartbreak and laughter—he perches on the blue bowl of the sky, and laughs.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe