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« Reply #1760 on: April 16, 2011, 06:09:26 PM »
More clues:

Author:       has also written successful children's books (although this is not one)

Book:         is set in what was then a seedy area of London

Character:  proceeds with a course of action that meets with social disapproval - but would not now

straudetwo

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« Reply #1761 on: April 16, 2011, 06:35:51 PM »
Ahh, if we only knew when "then" was !!

straudetwo

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« Reply #1762 on: April 16, 2011, 10:35:27 PM »
 ... or whether knowing of seedy areas of London would help  :) arrrrggg

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« Reply #1763 on: April 17, 2011, 01:04:40 AM »
Within the sound of that bell area, maybe, ie Cockney? 
East End is it?  Sorry Rosemary this is probably the only area I know of in London that was/is seedy, and that is because of a lot of convicts to Australia came from there.  I recently read a roll-call of passengers who came out as convicts, their length of sentence, and their crimes.  Many of the men were sent because they had stolen fine linen from their mistresses' house and the men for pickpocketing or sometimes stealing food. 

Would this character be responsible for maybe making prisoners' or asylum inmates' lives and conditions better? 
How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?  - Plato

rosemarykaye

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« Reply #1764 on: April 17, 2011, 03:14:02 AM »
No, sorry, you are all barking up the wrong tree   :)

Here are some more clues:

Author:       Lived for some time in Israel but now lives in southern England

Book:         Is set in the 20th century; the seedy area is a part of south west London, now quite fashionable

Character:  Has worked in the theatre, but no longer does

Frybabe

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« Reply #1765 on: April 17, 2011, 03:48:56 PM »
The only ones I can think of so far are all dead.

roshanarose

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« Reply #1766 on: April 17, 2011, 07:39:58 PM »
Was this person a playwright, Rosemary?
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rosemarykaye

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« Reply #1767 on: April 18, 2011, 05:36:16 AM »
Sorry Roshanarose, no.

More clues:

Author:       is female

Book:         examines (fictionally) an issue to which attitudes have changed greatly over the past 40-50 years

Character:  has a choice about how to proceed; that choice (in general terms) later became a political issue

roshanarose

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« Reply #1768 on: April 18, 2011, 11:27:45 PM »
Does it have anything to do with suffragettes and/or women's liberation?
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« Reply #1769 on: April 18, 2011, 11:59:42 PM »
Or maybe the question of abortion?
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« Reply #1770 on: April 19, 2011, 02:14:23 AM »
Gumtree - you are on the right track!  I will be back with more clues later - got to dash now as it is Madeleine's first day at her new school.

Rosemary

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« Reply #1771 on: April 19, 2011, 02:59:14 PM »
Good luck to her. It's hard on kids to transfer to a new school.

rosemarykaye

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« Reply #1772 on: April 20, 2011, 07:02:15 AM »
JoanK - thanks.  She seemed to be fine when she came out of school in the afternoon, but there were plenty of tears at bedtime - not about anything specific, just overwhelmed I think.  I hope everything sorts itself out; sometimes there isn't a lot you can do (except WORRY of course!)

I am posting this as fast as I can as I have already posted new clues twice today and twice my internet has cut off just as I pressed "post":

Author:      Was one of the first female TV journalists in Britain

Book:        Was made into a successful film, but with changes to some major features
 
Character:  My luck changes at the end of the book, when I receive an inheritance

Rosemary

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« Reply #1773 on: April 20, 2011, 06:05:13 PM »
Rosemary,
I'm s sorry to hear about daughter's tears, but it is a big change for her and will take a little time.

It happened to me when I was ten years old. My father was transferred in mid-June from a small  picturesque town on the Rhine to a large industrial city in the south of he country.  The class  I joined had been together since after Easter,  the traditional beginning of the new school year at that time.  At first no one spoke to me during the long recess in the schoolyard. Then I found out that they thought I was giving myself airs,  simply because I did not speak the broad unattractive dialect of the region. The class leader said  "Where you come from, even the maids speak hochdeutsch ...!"- true enough but hardly logical.  Class consciousness in  ten-year olds !  To my great relief, that settled the matter to their satisfaction and I was accepted.

Just give daughter all the support you cam. This too shall pass.

roshanarose

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« Reply #1774 on: April 21, 2011, 09:08:57 AM »
Rosemary - Sorry, but I am going to have to give a very vague response to this.  About the film - if Gum is on the right track as you say the book may be about abortion or an abortionist. There was a movie on about two weeks ago that I had seen before about an ordinary everyday housewife who "helped" women get rid of unwanted children.  I can't recall the actor's name but I do remember her from one of the Harry Potter movies as a virago in pink.  Sorry for the vagueness.  Just checked the actor's name in Harry Potter is Imelda Staunton.
How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?  - Plato

rosemarykaye

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« Reply #1775 on: April 22, 2011, 01:57:49 AM »
Hello,

Many apologies for delay in replying - my internet connection is getting worse and worse (although I can't really complain as it is somebody else's!) and yesterday my reply button disappeared (Jane has sorted that now - thanks!).

Straude - thank you so much for your words of support.  I spoke to M's class teacher yesterday and she was very helpful and nice, promised to keep an eye on her and said I could contact her 10 times a day if I liked until M was settled, so that at least made me feel better.  Last night M seemed a bit happier and there were no tears - her elder sister is now here for a few days and I think she will jolly her along.  On the way home from school I took M to a new cafe that ha just opened - she had a cake called a "lumberjack, which I have never heard of but she said it was good.  I have a horrible feeling that lumberjacks eat a zillion calories a day, but never mind!

Roshanarose - the film you are thinking of is Vera Drake, a wonderful film about a back street abortionist in 1950s (?) London.  Vera's family's flat, in the south London estates, was identical to those in which many of my mother's family grew up.  Imelda Staunton was absolutely brilliant in the title role, and the whole film, IMO, was genius, and showed so well the situation that women were in before the 1967 Abortion Act.  Unfortunately, however, it is not the film that I was thinking of!

More clues:

Author:   Has also written a biography of the Bronte family (but it's not famous, whereas this book is)

Book:     The title refers to the accommodation found by the character; the film of the book was made in 1962

I have given two clues for the book because at the moment i can't think of another clue for the character.

Rosemary



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« Reply #1776 on: April 22, 2011, 02:20:10 AM »
Oh my - there are gazillions of books about the Brontes - I've several on my shelves - Juliet Barker comes to mind but her Bronte books are famous - at least in Bronteland.

I'm getting the feeling that I should know this book -
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rosemarykaye

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« Reply #1777 on: April 22, 2011, 02:47:37 AM »
Gumtree - this author is not famous for the Bronte book.  It's the one I'm thinking of that's famous, and it is a work of fiction.

I hope somebody gets it soon because I'm running out of clues!

R

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« Reply #1778 on: April 24, 2011, 02:37:04 AM »
Here are some more clues, sorry they are a bit random:

In the film of the book, the heroine's nationality was changed from English to French and she was played by a French actress (though the film was still in English), and the location was moved from the original part of London to a more fashionable area.  The film was directed by Bryan Forbes.

One of the author's other books - written for children - is about a girl who moves from London to the Australian outback.

Does anyone want me to reveal the answers?

Rosemary


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« Reply #1779 on: April 24, 2011, 07:40:32 AM »
As I type, there is a movie on one of the stations (didn't look to see which) that I ran across while cruising with remote about Enid Blyton. I only watch a few minutes of it.

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« Reply #1780 on: April 24, 2011, 10:17:01 AM »
Quote
Does anyone want me to reveal the answers?

No, don't reveal the answers.  This is very difficult just relying on memory alone, and too, there are no doubt many of us who have never read anythihng by this author and wouldn't have a clue.  But you have given many clues that would enable one to find this title  if a little search was put behind it.

Gumtree

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« Reply #1781 on: April 24, 2011, 11:43:54 AM »
Can't think who this author can be but hold off a little longer with the answers  - that last clue about a children's book set in the Australian outback is rolling round my mind...

If the author was one of the first TV journalists in Britain then she can't be a spring chicken which rules out a lot of the younger writers....
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« Reply #1782 on: April 26, 2011, 02:24:00 AM »
 
I think I must surrender -
Reading is an art and the reader an artist. Holbrook Jackson

rosemarykaye

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« Reply #1783 on: April 26, 2011, 02:26:36 AM »
Is everyone else happy for me to post the answers?

Rosemary

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« Reply #1784 on: April 26, 2011, 07:53:53 AM »
Post away, Rosemary. It sure has me puzzled.

rosemarykaye

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« Reply #1785 on: April 26, 2011, 08:25:23 AM »
Author:  Lynn Reid Banks

Book:   The L-Shaped Room

Character:  Jane Graham

Lynn Reid Banks also wrote the Indian In The Cupboard books for children, and several other books - including Saving Stacey, about a girl who is sent to live with her grandmother in the Australian outback - , but this was her first.   Although born in the UK, she was evacuated to Canada during the war.   She also spent 8 years on a kibbutz in Israel, where she met and married her husband, but they now live in Dorset.

Jane Graham is a middle class girl in late 1950s/early 60s London, whose father throws her out when she discovers she is pregnant.  She goes to live in a seedy boarding house in Fulham (the L-shaped room being her room at the top of the stairs), where she meets a variety of interesting characters, including a Jewish writer, a gay black musician, and two prostitutes who live in the basement.

The doctor whom Jane consults tries to persuade her to have a (then illegal) abortion, but she decides to keep the baby and to suffer the huge social disapproval that this decision will being.  Eventually, after having her baby, she is left a cottage in the country by her late aunt, and goes to live there.

The film of the book changed Jane into a French girl (Jane Fosset), played to great acclaim by Lesley Caron.  The boarding house was relocated to Notting Hill (better than Fulham, but nothing like as fashionable as it is today).  At the end of the film, Jane returns to her parents in France.

The book addresses social issues of the time, particularly the terrible treatment meted out to "unmarried mothers", but still contains quite a bit of homophobia and some antisemitism, both of which were presumably still considered normal when Reid Banks was writing.  It emphasises that women as well as men are entitled to sexual pleasure, but the fact that, at the end of the book, Jane effectively "falls on her feet" with the inheritance of the cottage, shows how class will still out in the UK - the other characters in the boarding house, all of them far more "outsiders" than Jane, do not receive any such handy gifts.

I gave this book to my daughter to read when she was about 14, and she liked it so much that she did a study of it for a school project.  The English teacher was apparently quite taken aback, but I feel that it is the ideal novel for teenage girls to read, enabling them to see what women still went through only 50 years ago.  It ties in with Oranges & Sunshine, and also with the film that Roshanarose mentioned, Vera Drake, another brilliant depiction of 1950s London.

Sorry if my clues were too difficult!  Can somebody else take over now?

Rosemary

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« Reply #1786 on: April 26, 2011, 09:11:32 AM »
Ah, now I have heard of Indian in the Closet because of the movie. In fact, I think I saw it listed on cable the other day. Is it worth watching?

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« Reply #1787 on: April 26, 2011, 10:19:43 AM »
That was a good choice, Rosemary.  I don't know if I'll get to reading the book -- there's a long line already, but I would like to see the film sometime in the near future.

I'd heard the title L-Shaped Room, but always associated it with a film, and didn't know what it was about.  Likewise, Indian in the Cupboard.

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« Reply #1788 on: April 26, 2011, 02:51:26 PM »
That was a good choice, Rosemary, even if no one got it.  I'd heard of it, but didn't know enough to get it.

Are there any volunteers for next puzzle?

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« Reply #1789 on: April 26, 2011, 03:52:59 PM »
I've heard of Lynn Reid-Banks but haven't read her and didn't know she had bee n in TV - actually the clue about the TV journalism made me think of Angela Rippon and I couldn't get past her...  and the novel about a girl who spent time in the Australian outback made me think of Lucy Christopher - so I was way off the target.

Thanks Rosemary - I enjoyed that - though 'enjoyed' is not quite the word...

PatH - I don't think I should volunteer for the next quiz - still not feeling up to scratch.

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« Reply #1790 on: April 26, 2011, 07:55:36 PM »
Not to worry, Gumtree; if necessary I'll torture someone into volunteering, but probably we'll get someone.  take care of yourself.

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« Reply #1791 on: April 27, 2011, 12:29:34 AM »
Gumtree - I am sorry to hear you are not feeling well.  It is ironic that as I was grumbling about the weather remaining hot, today it is delightfully cool.  I  actually have a built-in barometer - my thighs - if they are cold the weather must be getting cooler.  The only thing that really keeps my thighs and knees warm are leg-warmers.  They are pretty hard to find in the shops.  I hope you feel much better soon.  Take care!

Rosemary - Good choice and well done.  I do remember seeing the L-Shaped Room.  I was a fan of Leslie Caron and loved her in Gigi.  I think about that time London film studios were making many movies with similar themes.  "Room at the Top", something about "Poor Cow" and of course, "Alfie".  I ate them up at the time.  
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« Reply #1792 on: April 27, 2011, 06:06:21 PM »
PatH ,  if I may have  few days, I'll suggest a new puzzle to keep us going.

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« Reply #1793 on: April 27, 2011, 09:17:15 PM »
Traude--my hero!  If you decide it's too much, let me know and I'll fill in.

Roshanarose, do ballet leg-warmers work for you? They might be available at dance supply places.

roshanarose

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« Reply #1794 on: April 27, 2011, 11:57:58 PM »
PatH - Considering I feel the cold most in my legs - Yes!  But they must be pure wool to work well.  I may even knit myself a pair.  They will be purple or red. ::)

Straudetwo - You are our hero.
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« Reply #1795 on: April 28, 2011, 03:36:41 PM »
Purple sounds great!

roshanarose

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« Reply #1796 on: April 28, 2011, 07:42:04 PM »
JoanK - Do you have a favourite colour?  A colour that you seek out in clothing stores.  I love red and purple, probably because they suit me (not worn together) and I have received compliments when I wear clothes of that colour.

I also love beige, but for some reason it is quite difficult to find tops in that colour.  Plenty of pants though.  The only colour I just can't wear is orange.  I leave that to the monks!

I haven't knitted since I was a teenager, but will look at some wool today and give it a go.  I daresay it will be more difficult than reading "The Odyssey". :o I guess the easiest way to knit them would be as though they were a large scarf and then stitch them up the side with hat elastic at top and bottom to keep them in place.  
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« Reply #1797 on: April 28, 2011, 08:52:31 PM »
Roshanarose, I bet you already know this if you used to knit, but when you first start knitting after a long dry spell, you will hold the yarn more tightly at first, and your gauge (number of stitches per inch) will be different than when you settle down.  So it's good either to knit a practice swatch first or to count on possibly having to unravel your start when you see that it's changing width.

I'm not sure I want to figure out relative difficulty of knitting and reading the Odyssey. :)

rosemarykaye

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« Reply #1798 on: April 29, 2011, 01:58:39 AM »
Roshanarose - your post about purple reminded me of the poem by Jenny Joseph - I expect you know it:

http://labyrinth_3.tripod.com/page59.html

Not that you are in any way "old" - as the poem says, just practising... ;D

Rosemary

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« Reply #1799 on: April 29, 2011, 09:27:45 AM »
Rosemary - Sometimes you are scaringly (is there such a word?) perceptive.  

There was also the little old lady who requested that her coffin be lined in white silk with just a touch of purple... I could relate to that as well.

PatH - I am a piker.  I realised that my every day is full to the brim with no time to knit....so I searched the net and found just what I wanted at a company called Bloch's that specialise in ballet and dance wear.  I felt like a fraud when I ordered them.  How were they to know that the person who ordered them was an old impostor with cold thighs and knees and not some lissome ballerina (ah I wish)?  btw I couldn't find any in purple - the ones I ordered are in burgundy.  

I enjoy reading the Odyssey, but am not so keen on interpreting it for the modern reader.
How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?  - Plato