Author Topic: Non-Fiction  (Read 439693 times)

bellemere

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Re: Non-Fiction
« Reply #2320 on: October 30, 2012, 04:43:27 PM »
 

TO NONFICTION BOOK TALK

What are you reading?  Autobiographies, biographies, history, politics?

Tell us about the book; the good and the bad of it. 

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The last nonfiction book I read was The Swerve.  In my mail today came a brochure from "Classical Purursuits" an educational travel program run by St. Michael's University in Toronto.  One of the offerings is a week-long seminar on the Swerve.  My son, completing his Ph.D. in Classics, wants to read it with whatever time he has left over after requirements
It had so much in it, I know I will read it again.
Did anyone see the PBS interview with Bill Ivey about his new book, Handmaking America"? I would like to read it, althought I am quite sure that he will be dismissed as an idealistic kook. He sounds like the WilliamMorris of the technological age.

mabel1015j

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« Reply #2321 on: November 09, 2012, 01:31:41 PM »
I see that our library has The Swerve. I'll pick it up next time. I finished Setting a Course: American Women in the 1920s. It was very good. It is part of a series published, i think, in the 1980s and 90s, each book covering a decade of the 20th century. I mentioned it before, but having finished it, i was very impressed. It was academic in research and detail, but very readable. The chapters are on specific issues: the "new woman", work, education, religion - a very interesting chapter to me, because it gave me a lot of new info, culture - a large section on women in literature, etc. I will look for the other books in the series.

I am almost finished w/ Wild, a memoir of a young woman, Cheryl Strayed, who made some really bad decisions in her young life, was devastated by the death of her mother and then impulsively decided to hike the Pacific Coast Trail alone. It has been on the NYT best-seller list for months. She is the epitome of the feelings most of us have of the dichotomy of courage/self-confidence vs doubting who she is and what she is capable of. it is compelling reading, but sometimes i just want to smack her (symbolically) and say "Think!" For instance, she made almost no preparation for this tremedous hike, no physical training, no studying about what previous hikers suggested, etc. I reccommend it anyway.

   I see she has a novel coming out this month.


Babi

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« Reply #2322 on: November 10, 2012, 08:58:34 AM »
 Isn't it great when those times come around that you have several books to read, and they're
all good!  Especially when you've been through a period of unfinished  'blah', and 'who cares' books.  :P
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

marjifay

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« Reply #2323 on: November 13, 2012, 07:31:36 AM »
Have you ever visited the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall in Washington D.C.?   I remember that as one of the most emotional experiences of my visit there.  

Per the Today in Literature newsletter, the memorial wall was didicated 30 years ago today.  At first controversial, Maya Lin's momument has now become the most visited war memorial in the U.S.  People have left notes and mementoes by the memorial, some 100,000 of them now collected by the Smithsonian.  A sampling of these mementoes can be found in books such as SHRAPNEL FROM THE HEART by Laura Palmer and LETTERS ON THE WALL by Michael Sofarelli.

The newsletter printed a couple of these letters:

"Well here you are, making another lasting impression on me and everyone else who sees you! I love you so much. I have dreamed of the day you’ll come home and finally be my Dad…. I’m 23 now! I sure look a lot different from six years old. You’d be very proud of me. They say I’m a lot like you. I can see it too. I have never forgotten you. I knew you were Santa Claus, but I didn’t want to spoil it for you. Your daughter, Sheri

How, my son, do I say farewell? The red roses you ordered for Mother’s Day, 1968, for me, were just beautiful. It was as if in all finality, you were thanking me and telling me of the love we shared together. The red paint on the big tree where you sprayed your hot rod engine is fading away. Dad will always cherish the railroad watch you left in his car. Your tools are just as you left them in the garage…. America has had no better than you, and you were ours. Your Mom"

"Without books, history is silent, literature dumb, science crippled, thought and speculation at a standstill."  Barbara Tuchman

Babi

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« Reply #2324 on: November 13, 2012, 09:16:50 AM »
 Oh, MARJ, I don't think I could read those books.  The two notes you shared were enough to bring tears to my eyes. Just
too heartbreaking.
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

marjifay

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« Reply #2325 on: November 13, 2012, 08:01:07 PM »
I felt that way too about those letters, Babi.  Lovely, but so sad.  And my heart ached when I saw the memorial in D.C. with all those names on it and people reaching up to touch a name with tears in their eyes.

Marj
"Without books, history is silent, literature dumb, science crippled, thought and speculation at a standstill."  Barbara Tuchman

nlhome

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« Reply #2326 on: November 14, 2012, 07:24:00 PM »
That memorial is one of the strongest memories of Washington D.C. Another is the Korean War memorial. We saw both at night.

mabel1015j

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« Reply #2327 on: November 14, 2012, 07:47:05 PM »
I got The Swerve yesterday at the library.

Ella Gibbons

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« Reply #2328 on: November 16, 2012, 10:27:34 AM »
If you go to see the movie LINCOLN, a Spielberg production, you may remember our discussion of the book on which it is based in part.

TEAM OF RIVALS by Doris Kearns Goodwin:

http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=271.0

Great book, a complicated one to discuss but we took our time, I think it may have taken us 6 weeks or so, as I remember.

I haven't seen the movie yet, but hope to Sunday or MOnday.  

Has anyone seen it?

marjifay

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« Reply #2329 on: November 17, 2012, 02:05:36 AM »
I haven't seen the movie Lincoln yet.  Am waiting for the reviews.  It's 2-1/2 hours long, so I may wait for the Netflix version.  I saw part of an advertisemet for it, and it sounded like they gave Lincoln a high voice -- not sure I'd like that.

Marj
"Without books, history is silent, literature dumb, science crippled, thought and speculation at a standstill."  Barbara Tuchman

marjifay

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« Reply #2330 on: November 17, 2012, 02:11:47 AM »
I have been reading THE WORST HARD TIME by Timothy Egan.  It's a really great story of the 1930s dust bowl in Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska.  I just heard that PBS TV is doing that story of it this coming Sunday, Nov. 18, so I'm definitely going to watch it. 

Marj
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« Reply #2331 on: November 17, 2012, 08:25:00 AM »
marjifay, I was just going to post about The Worst Hard Times, too.  We've just finished reading it - very powerful.  I knew the Ken Burns piece about The Dust Bowl was going to be on tomorrow and Monday.  We saw a promo for it on PBS last night.  Timothy Egan (author of The Worse Hard Times) had a lot to do with the documentary, too.  We'll definitely be watching (and/or recording).
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CubFan

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« Reply #2332 on: November 17, 2012, 08:25:13 AM »
I read The Worst Hard Time  some time ago and found it very interesting. I've also seen the PBS program and it draws a lot from the book. Mr. Egan is one of their go to people. Seldom do I like seeing something based on a book I've read but this is an exception. I recommend doing both as they complement each other.  If I don't have a conflict I will probably watch the PBS program again.

Mary
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Frybabe

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« Reply #2333 on: November 21, 2012, 07:34:38 AM »
I am reading an old book called Acadian Exiles. The author's name escapes me at the moment. So far, it is giving me a better understanding of the area of conflict and what were the causes of the conflict. Not unsurprisingly, it includes treaties that changed territorial boundaries, agreements not honored or that were distorted by governing authorities so as to deprive the original settlers of their due process or their land and property. Example: The treaty included a provision that Acadians that did not want to swear allegiance to the English king be allowed to migrate to the newly established French territories.  The local authorities, for the most part, did not allow them to take any of their possessions nor would they provide (or in some cases) allow ships to transport them.

The English at first thought they needed the French population to provide for provisions to the garrisons and as a buffer against Indian incursions. Later, the old Protestant/Catholic came into play. Many French were willing to pledge to the King of England, but the English were very suspicious that the French Catholic priests were subverting or undermining their authority. Of course, both sides had their Indian allies or Indians who took advantage of the conflict for their own reasons.

These conflicts were precursers to what became the French and Indian War.

hats

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« Reply #2334 on: November 21, 2012, 08:28:16 AM »
Hi Frybabe,

I will write the title down. I'll bet the book is interesting. Thanks.

Babi

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« Reply #2335 on: November 21, 2012, 09:08:00 AM »
 Thanks for that interesting nugget of history, FRYBABE.  About all I knew about Acadians was
that many of them migrated to Louisiana, that this was the basis of the classic, "Evangeline",
and that 'Acadian' is the source of the word 'Cajun'.  Reading/hearing about the sort of
machinations you describe always gets me angry, and I know it happens all the time.
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

marjifay

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« Reply #2336 on: November 21, 2012, 10:54:32 AM »
Acadian Exiles sounds very interesting, Frybabe.  Could you give the author's name!

Marj
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Frybabe

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« Reply #2337 on: November 21, 2012, 11:35:56 AM »
I've been downloading a few Canadian histories and novels lately. Now that I went back and looked, I can tell you that the book is Volume 9 of the Chronicles of Canada. The full title of the volume is The Acadian Exiles: A Chronicle of the Land of Evangeline written by Arthur G. Doughty.

Apparently the Eastern part of New France, though not well defined at that time, included parts of Maine and Quebec, and all of New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and Prince Edward Island. Cape Breton Island is involved there somewhere also.

Gotta run and let George in.


PS: this volume was published in 1916. got it from either Project Gutenberg or ManyBooks.

mabel1015j

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« Reply #2338 on: November 21, 2012, 12:43:25 PM »
Ella, maybe you should ask your question about watching and discussing the U of Houston (?)lectures here on this site. Did you get any off-line responses? I watched the first two of America:identity, culture and power, and altho his presentation was not so good, the information was very interesting.i haven't looked at the others.

hats

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« Reply #2339 on: November 22, 2012, 02:12:39 AM »
Thank you, Frybabe.

mabel1015j

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« Reply #2340 on: November 22, 2012, 12:24:37 PM »
Hi Hats, so nice to have you posting. Happy Thanksgiving!
Jean

hats

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« Reply #2341 on: November 22, 2012, 02:10:08 PM »
Hi Mabel,

I'm glad to see you too. I hope you enjoy Thanksgiving too.

Ella Gibbons

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« Reply #2342 on: November 29, 2012, 12:24:38 PM »
JEAN, no responses for discussing the lectures.

 I have on reserve two books at the library; DETROIT CITY THE PLACE TO BE by Binelli and a new one on the history of the iron cutain - by Anne Applebaum.  I thought if I liked the print (bold and not too small) and the first 10 pages of either, I might buy them for my TBR table.  I did pick up one I had on reserve and it looks very very good - THE END OF YOUR LIFE BOOK CLUB by Schwalbe.  I've read the first 25 pages, not sad, its a discussion of books between a son and his mother who has cancer.   Already I have made a list of 10 books to read and before I finish it I will have a long long list.

This is a fiction but wonderful - THE LIGHT BETWEEN THE OCEANS by Stedman about a lighthouse keeper.  Anyone read that one?

hats

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« Reply #2343 on: November 29, 2012, 02:22:37 PM »
Hi Ella,

I've had my eye on The End Of Your Life Book Club too.

Frybabe

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« Reply #2344 on: November 29, 2012, 02:28:58 PM »
Heyyyyyy! I was just looking at The End Of Your Life Book Club a few minutes ago. Great minds and all that, I guess.

hats

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« Reply #2345 on: November 29, 2012, 02:32:56 PM »
Isn't that amazing??? :)

Tomereader1

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« Reply #2346 on: November 29, 2012, 03:17:49 PM »
There are only 53 people on the reserve list ahead of me at my library.  I think that's because they have several copies of the book on order, but they are not "in the collection" just yet.  Well, I'm on the list!
The reading of a fine book is an uninterrupted dialogue in which the book speaks and our soul replies.


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« Reply #2347 on: November 29, 2012, 08:18:59 PM »
"The light between the Oceans" ordered. I am number 33 at our library .Will see where I will be on the "End of your life".

JoanK

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« Reply #2348 on: November 30, 2012, 03:52:18 PM »
Let us know about "The light between". Like many, I'm fascinated by lighthouses. the one near me doesn't have a keeper anymore: it's run electronically.

Tomereader1

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« Reply #2349 on: December 01, 2012, 01:20:42 PM »
I trust you all will forgive if I frequently post here (also in LIbrary) about a book that is not a "new" or "current" book.  I am currently reading "Washington Schlepped Here" by Christopher Buckley.  Chris is such a gem!  If you have been to D. C. you will appreciate this book; if you have never been (I haven't) you will really like this book.  It is funny, informational and pointedly reminds one of their lack of education (classical -"Ozymandius"? I looked it up, had actually read it).  I feel like I need to hop on the first flight out to D. C. and take tours, and do my own tours!!  It's not a lengthy book.  If you read it in bed, someone will hear you laughing!
The reading of a fine book is an uninterrupted dialogue in which the book speaks and our soul replies.


André Maurois

JoanK

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« Reply #2350 on: December 01, 2012, 01:36:49 PM »
Since I was born and spent most of my life in Washington, I have to get that book! It's a beautiful city: you'll love it if you go, Tome.


dbroomsc

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« Reply #2351 on: December 02, 2012, 07:22:28 AM »
Thanks Tomereader1 for the information of the Christopher Buckley book about Washington, DC.  I have been to DC but have found nothing to laugh about, so far.  Perhaps this book will change things.  I hope our library has a copy.


Babi

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« Reply #2352 on: December 02, 2012, 09:17:57 AM »
 ;D  You're just confusing the city with the politicians who work there, DEAN.  Much of the
architecture is truly very fine and worth seeing.  (We humans are seldom quite so grand.  ::))
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

JoanK

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« Reply #2353 on: December 02, 2012, 02:53:33 PM »
I ordered it from Amazon. Figure I can read it and pass it along to PatH, who's still in the Washington area. (don't tell her).

Tomereader1

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« Reply #2354 on: December 02, 2012, 03:18:46 PM »
Not every page has a "funny".  One thing is certain, the politicians of their day were just as irascible as those of today, and it is a wonder anything ever got agreed upon or  built.
The reading of a fine book is an uninterrupted dialogue in which the book speaks and our soul replies.


André Maurois

Ella Gibbons

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« Reply #2355 on: December 02, 2012, 07:58:10 PM »
I read about 3-4 chapters of the END OF YOUR LIFE BOOK CLUB every night and then go on to fiction sometimes.  It's not a depressing book, it just takes time to read as I write down books and read some things over a couple of times (I have two long posit notes full of TBR books).  I think you will all enjoy it, if not, go on, there are so many good books to read, one of which is

THE LIGHT BETWEEN THE OCEANS by Stedman.  I know you will like that one.

Finally, my reserved book - MADISON VS. MONROE, FOUNDERS RIVALRY - is waiting for me at the library.  I'll have to look up the author, but if it's good, I might propose we discuss in next year.  NEXT YEAR, how quickly they are passing by. 

As TOMEREADER said, this rivaly, this bitter campaigning, has been going on since our country was founded; although George Washington got by without it.  I don't think we have ever discussed OLD GEORGE, THE FATHER, have we?   We should do that someday

Ella Gibbons

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« Reply #2356 on: December 02, 2012, 08:07:04 PM »
Founding Rivals: Madison vs. Monroe, The Bill…by Chris DeRose

That's the name of the book and the author, and I would buy it from Amazon for $11.18 but I have to see a book first.  If it is in fine print I can't read it.  Most books I can, particuarly if I just read a few chapters at a time, but fine print and lines too close together are beyond me.

I read a few paragraphs of it on Amazon and it reads well, sounds interesting.  Those two presidents have not been written about often.

Read about the author here:

http://www.amazon.com/Chris-DeRose/e/B0052XW0NU/ref=sr_tc_2_0?qid=1354496882&sr=1-2-ent

mabel1015j

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« Reply #2357 on: December 04, 2012, 11:09:28 PM »
I've tried 3 different nights to watch Mankind:the Story of all of Us. Well, the title is half right, it is about MANkind and not humankind. There are almost NO women in this version of history. And the subtitle would be more accurately "the story of conquest and violence." i think it has been made for 15 yr old boys.

It's sad, a missed opportunity to show television viewers how interesting world history has been. They have wonderful animation - like in building the China Wall and cathedrals. But 90% of it is showing cruelty, killing and conquest. Arrrggghhh! I guess The History Channel really has become the GUY channel.

Jean


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« Reply #2358 on: December 05, 2012, 01:27:44 AM »
Jean like everything else it is according to who is writing the show and who is producing the show
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

marjifay

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« Reply #2359 on: December 07, 2012, 12:51:20 PM »
A couple of nonfiction books that look interesting by an author whose politices I don't care for, are books by Bill O'Reilly on the killing of Kennedy and Lincoln.  They seem to be getting good reviews, but perhaps from people who like FOX TV.  Has anyone read them?  I have the one on Lincoln on hold at the library.

Marj
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