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bellemere

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Re: The Library
« Reply #2120 on: July 25, 2010, 01:45:29 PM »

The Library



Our library cafe is open 24/7, the welcome mat is  always out.
Do come in from daily chores and spend some time with us.

We look forward to hearing from you, about you and the books you are enjoying (or not).


Let the book talk begin here!





Joan, my edition of Kristin is the Alfred Knopf one published in 1971.  It doesn't even credit the translator.  I am sure there is probably a newer translation; I will check bookstores and online.  but so far I am doing okay.
Re: Norwegians  I love the way Garrison keillor pokes loving fun at the Minnesota Norwegian famers, his neighbors in "Lake Woebegon" the town that missed being put on the map.
Today I made a gift to my granddaughter: my oldest book, dating from 1902.  The binding has given way, it has no resale value   "Emmy Lou, Her Book and Heart" , the tale of a schoolgirl.  Linen cover, beautiful glossy pages, fine type, and loads of delicate pen=and-ink drawinigs of little boys and girs, circa 1900, by George Madden Martin.  I believe Wikipedia or someplace told me that this was actually a woman author.  
Maura's Dad is envouraging her to begin collecting books.  He is a VP of Barnes and Noble with his own collection on early American history, now branching out to collect works on ancient Rome.
He is witnessing first hand, the decline of the written book, and regrets it.  But says it is inevitable, and that his generation will be passing a torch.  He also thinks that perhaps the increased dissemination of information and culture made possible by electronic reading may produce more literacy worldwide and greater intercultural understanding  So ...do you think so? Or just hope so?

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« Reply #2121 on: July 25, 2010, 06:19:46 PM »
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Maura's Dad is envouraging her to begin collecting books.  He is a VP of Barnes and Noble with his own collection on early American history, now branching out to collect works on ancient Rome.

Bellemere, I think that is great. I hope he is reading them as well as collecting them. Roman history is a favorite subject of mine.

I cruised into my local B&N just after it opened this morning to get Mom a world atlas. There were at least a half dozen people already browsing the stacks when I went in. Having forgotten to take my gift card, I didn't pick up near what I would have. There is a book of six (or seven, I forget) Jane Austen novels, in leather and gold edging for $19.98. There were others, too, but I only remember a Charles Dickens and the Austen. I plan on going back later this week. I hope books don't fade away too soon.

bellemere

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« Reply #2122 on: July 25, 2010, 07:52:12 PM »
Maura and her parents just returned from Rome, as a matter of fact.  I recommended "Memoirs of Hadrian" for her dad; it was possibly the greatest book I ever read.  He says he will read it. 
I googled George Maddan Martin and it led me to a website called littlecolonel.com.  Seems GMM was really a Mrs Martin, one of a group of literary ladies in Louisville Kentucky, who formed and Author's Club and some of them actually were published. Little Colonel was not one of Martin's, it was the biggest success and was made into a Shirley Templle movie.
I am interested in hearing from any Louisville members who might know more about these gals.  Anybody out there?

bellemere

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« Reply #2123 on: July 25, 2010, 07:53:15 PM »
That Jane Austin set sounds wonderful  Hope you can grab it! 

serenesheila

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« Reply #2124 on: July 25, 2010, 09:18:01 PM »
I haven't been online this week.  So, I am catching up on all of the posts.  BABI, I am so sorry that your daughter had chest pains.  I am glad to hear that she is doing well.  Do, please, take good care of yourself, as well as Val.  I will remember you both in my prayers.

Sheila

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« Reply #2125 on: July 25, 2010, 11:33:45 PM »
Bellemere,  I have the complete "Little Colonel" series that belonged to my mother and her sisters.  I read them all several times as a girl.
However, I must have missed an earlier mention of George Madden Martin so I'm curious about any comments that were made about his connection to the book and/or author.
Thank you for the littlecolonel.com link.  I have bookmarked it for future reading.

Steph

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« Reply #2126 on: July 26, 2010, 05:48:19 AM »
Oh, I love the tomato story.. The gaps in what we know is always interesting.
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bellemere

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« Reply #2127 on: July 26, 2010, 08:58:27 AM »
That tomato story reminded me of my friend's story about the Irish immigrant on the boat coming over here years ago who was served corn on the cob in the ship's dining room.  He had never seen any such thing before and attacked it with a knife and fork, causing it to slide off the plate and skitter across the floor.  In
Ireland, his corn came from a tin.
Re" Little Colonel"  I bet Netflix still has that Shirley Temple film.  She was impossibly cute, wasn't she?  My mother struggled with my poker straight hair to get ringlets like Shirley's.  Impossible.

Babi

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« Reply #2128 on: July 26, 2010, 09:07:11 AM »
 I don't know, BELLE. Great intercultural understanding seems hopeful; it
will be easier to broaden one's contacts. But things like text-messaging
don't contribute to literary distinction, IMO.  Brief notes, with many
shortcuts in language.
  Will people read more with electronic access?  I don't know. Electronics
seem to me the very emblem of people in a hurry.  Will more of them take the time
to sit down and read a book electronically?  Maybe.

  Thank you, SHEILA.  Valerie had a full scale acute MI. The cardiologist
opened up the clogged arteries via catheter, and she was in the hospital
only four nights. Home Saturday and doing well.
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

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« Reply #2129 on: July 26, 2010, 01:56:41 PM »
BABI: I'm so glad your daughter is doing well!

My oldest book is a "Godies (sp?) Ladies Book" passed on from my great grandmother. Fascinating, but hard to read -- the pages are so fragile.

I've finished "The Historian". It is a vampire story, but one thing that is so great about it is that it really transmits the love of old books and documents, as well as the love of history.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #2130 on: July 26, 2010, 02:12:04 PM »
Bellemere,
Have you read the old Little Colonel books lately???  They are offensive to me when I am trying to be PC but other wise, I loved them as a child and have read every one.  I also have a small collection of the books, not all.

JoanK,
Do you use the Torrance library?  It offered much that we weren't getting on this side of the Mississipps back in the '80's.  Is it still as good a library as it was them??  
"No distance of place or lapse of time can lessen the friendship of those who are thoroughly persuaded of each other's worth." Robert Southey

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« Reply #2131 on: July 26, 2010, 04:43:08 PM »
Yes, I do. It is a very good library -- I'm lucky.

Steph

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« Reply #2132 on: July 27, 2010, 09:00:20 AM »
The stick straight hair rang a bell. Mine was that way and I had to endure rag curls for Sunday when young. My Mother adored the look, but being a tomboy, I just wanteed the whole mess cut off. During the week, I wore braids. Still a pain, but could be looped up and out of the way when climbing trees and riding my pony, etc.
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« Reply #2133 on: July 27, 2010, 09:36:46 AM »
Ha ha, Steph.  When I finished Junior High my one big wish was for STRAIGHT hair.  Mine was naturally curly and all the mornings of my school days were painful as I had to sit through the combing  and brushing out of all the snarls.  To top it off, I had these wiener-looking things on each side, held in place with rubber bands.  Try to get those out!  My mother and I battled my hair for years, so I let my kids do whatever they wanted with theirs.

Frybabe

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« Reply #2134 on: July 27, 2010, 11:14:21 AM »
I remember when my grandmum visited from Wales. She ripped up some sheeting and did my hair in ringlets. Mom used to do ringlets too, but I think she used bristle brush rollers. Speaking of ouch.

bellemere

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« Reply #2135 on: July 27, 2010, 05:46:21 PM »
and then came the Tonette.  Talk about cruelty to children.
No I havent read the Little Colonel books, but I remember spunky little Shirley standing up to those awful Yankees on behalf of her grandpa, Lionel barrymore.  Wasn't there some horrible little stereotype black child tagging along after shirley?
Emmy Lou is not very PC either.  About a little girl for whom school did not come easy but who "always told the truth and tried her best" 

Steph

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« Reply #2136 on: July 28, 2010, 05:40:04 AM »
Lets face it.. PC was unheard of when we were growing up.. Hurtful but quite true.
Childrens books simply reflected the times.
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Frybabe

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« Reply #2137 on: July 28, 2010, 08:17:43 AM »
I just finished The House at Riverton. My only question is, when is the movie coming out? What an ending.

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« Reply #2138 on: July 28, 2010, 11:58:59 AM »
Hi, everyone. Whether or not you've read the book, Frankenstein by Mary Shelley, you've likely seen a movie version related to it. We're now discussing anything about the book or film versions in our final week of discussion of FRANKENSTEIN. You're invited! http://seniorlearn.org/forum/index.php?topic=1513.200.

Steph

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« Reply #2139 on: July 29, 2010, 06:11:14 AM »
Ordered my IPAD yesterday and they shipped last night. Hooray.. My friends brought theirs and it looks like such fun.. Hopefully will have it before I go to the Elderhostel class on the 7th.
Stephanie and assorted corgi

Babi

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« Reply #2140 on: July 29, 2010, 08:56:58 AM »
 Speaking of childhood books, does anyone remember Elsie Dinsmore?
I thought she was wonderful as a child, but I must admit that now she
does seem a truly insufferable little prig. 
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

Tomereader1

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Re: The Library
« Reply #2141 on: July 29, 2010, 10:49:07 AM »
Something on the tv news last night about the Ipad; heating problem from keeping it on for book reading, or such.  Be careful.
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« Reply #2142 on: July 29, 2010, 11:37:24 AM »
Did anyone see Jeff Bezos on the Charlie Rose show --  announcing the two new Kindles.  One sells for $139 -- the downloading is all done by Wi-Fi.  The $189 updated model download with both wi-fi and cell phone.

I'm still debating.  My gadget-loving self says "yeah,"  and the other side says "you gotta buy the books to read 'em on the Kindle. What about all those books on your shelves, and in the Library?"

Later:  Well, I did it.  It was the Latin books that decided me.  Now, let's see if it arrives before the NY trip.

mrssherlock

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« Reply #2143 on: July 29, 2010, 04:34:57 PM »
Steph:  I'm a new convert to the iPad so keep us informed as you play with it.  It will be November before I can fit it into my budget so I have lots of time to learn all about it.

NPR is my addiction of choice and there I find so much to stimulate my ancient brain cells.  The different programs do book lists very well and I've never gone wrong following the recommendations of the various venues.  Since humor is a rare and highly desired quality I was delighted to find these books:  http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128542237
Jackie
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Frybabe

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« Reply #2144 on: July 29, 2010, 05:33:19 PM »
Lecture 8 of the Roman Architecture series from Academic Earth shows a wall painting depicting the ritual initiation into the cult of Dionysus. We read about this cult and its rites in Carol Goodman's The Night Villa.  For anyone interested, after a few minutes summarizing the previous lecture, the lecturer takes about 40 minutes to walk us around the scene which wraps the entire way around the room. Wish I'd seen this when we were reading the book.

http://www.academicearth.org/courses/roman-architecture

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« Reply #2145 on: July 29, 2010, 08:32:52 PM »
mrssherlock - And what a fine addiction it is.  I took a peek at www.npr.org and whiled away some time checking out yet more TBRs.  I like the look of "Dead End Gene Pool : A Memoir" about the Vanderbilts.  There is also a Paul Auster there that looks interesting.  Thanks so much for the introduction.

frybabe - Thanks also for that link.  "The Night Villa" is sitting patiently atop my TBRs.
How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?  - Plato

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« Reply #2146 on: July 29, 2010, 08:46:00 PM »
Thanks for that link, frybabe. I too wish I'd seen the lecture while we were talking about THE NIGHT VILLA.

Steph

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« Reply #2147 on: July 30, 2010, 05:49:44 AM »
The walk around sounds interesting. I liked the discussion, but was not overfond of the book.
I can hardly wait for the IPAD.. Some of the apps, my friends had were really neat. Of course he is a fisherman, so he had all sorts of fishing apps.. Funny actually.
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« Reply #2148 on: July 30, 2010, 10:37:14 AM »
Steph, I hope you enjoy your iPad as much as I have enjoyed mine.  I haven't downloaded many apps.  I do enjoy the Boggle and Solitaire games, and a few news apps.  If you find any interesting apps, please post about them.  I have downloaded a number of free books.  I had never read "Persuasion: and "Pride and Prejudice" by Jane Austen, so I downloaded them and could hardly stop reading them once I started.  I'm not an adventuresome person by nature so, unfortunately, I kind of stick to what I know unless I am nudged.

Steph

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« Reply #2149 on: July 31, 2010, 05:54:37 AM »
 Ihave read most if not all of Austen many years ago. Not a favorite, but I intend to see what is free.. According to my friend he also reads the Wall Street Journal a  couple of times a week.. again free.. I am really looking forward to a new type of exploring.. I love the finger aspect of the whole thing.
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« Reply #2150 on: July 31, 2010, 09:27:02 AM »
FlaJean, I'm a real Austen nut, so I'm always delighted when someone else likes her.  You have just read the two best, but the others are good too.  Most people like Mansfield Park the least, but when we read it here, I found a lot more in it.

The lengthy BBC movie of Pride and Prejudice with Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehle, and the 1995 movie of Persuasion with Amanda Root and Ciaran Hinds are both excellent jobs of getting the spirit of the books, as is the 1995 Sense and Sensibility with Emma Thompson, Kate Winslett, Alan Rickman, and Hugh Grant.

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« Reply #2151 on: July 31, 2010, 10:42:37 AM »
Flajean: I'll second everything PatH has said about JA.  Glad you liked her.  I find something new and fresh every time I read her.
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bellemere

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« Reply #2152 on: July 31, 2010, 05:03:40 PM »
Ah, Hugh Grant.  Sense and Sensibility is one of the few movies where he did not play the Charming
Cad.  Loved Bridget Jones's Diary
I am really enjoying Kristin Lavransdatter!  To think it has been around so long and I never got to it.  Would it be a good online discussion for the fall?  One book or  all three?
Yes NPR is excellent for recommendations as well as news, music, etc. 
Re the IPad.  Is there a monthly charge for all the goodies; the phone service, the newspapers and magazines, ?  I am considering the itouch, but if the iPad is coming out at $189, it's a no brainer, unless there is amonthly fee.  My budget forbids any more fixed expenses.

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« Reply #2153 on: July 31, 2010, 06:22:05 PM »
Consumer Reports shows the IPad at $500, and besides the thing where you have to put duct tape over a part of it, is silly.  I think you pay individually for each APP.  Has Free WiFi and Paid wireless; storage 16 gb; not compatible with Flash, no USB port or memory card reader, no camera, battery life 1-2 days. Only fair for writing/editing documents.  The above is directly from the CU article in Sept. issue. Rates well on everything else.   I really don't know much about IPad, but seems to me I'd prefer a Netbook at much lower price.   
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« Reply #2154 on: July 31, 2010, 07:22:08 PM »
my kindle archive has 153 books now most of them full read maybe ten at the most put off or discarded. I'm going back to pick up on some of these. Also I just covered the New York times list of 33 books keeping five samples from this list to explore. currenly reading two of them.  The power cord has shredded it's plastic cover at least two times already. I am on the third . They say that they have not had this happen with anyone else and offered to replace the entire kindle.  so far that hasn't happened but I moved everything that was on the home index to the archives in case.

my daughter has an I pad and prefers it to her kindle and also her laptop where kindle books may be uploaded and read. 
Like others who have found the new publishers pricing annoying I don't buy anything priced by the publisher's. this is indicated now on the description page which makes it easier to boycot them for their raising the 9.99 books prices higher. So I miss a few. they may get the message if enough of us do it and according to a kindle blog I am not alone.  Then I'll catch up. >:(
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« Reply #2155 on: August 01, 2010, 06:15:02 AM »
16 IPAD from Apple on line is 499.00. My friend recommended the type of cover he bought.. Keeps it safe and unscrached, so I ordered it. Also will allow you to prop up the IPAD.. Wifi is free.. I did not get the 3g, which you need to get internet without wifi..That would be a monthly charge. A good many of the Apps are free, but some have a fee. The Journal is free, but I dont know about other newspapers.. I dont want it to write papers, etc. I wanted it to not only be a book, but also email and internet.. So I think for me it was a good choice.
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« Reply #2156 on: August 01, 2010, 07:40:45 AM »
I'm back, and intensely interested in the info here on the ipad, the itouch and everything else. I tried to at least read here while in Europe, and nearly threw the Blackberry away when at last it began to cooperate, I have no idea why. Almost impossible to post tho you don't have any edit buttons, or a lot of other things. Still, you can read and keep up.

Everywhere I went was WiFi, on trains, buses, boats, you name it, just turn it on and it works. Astounded me, we feel here (perhaps I am in the boondocks) that we're lucky to find a Barnes and Noble or Panera's for WiFi.

Wonderful conversations here. Mrs. Sherlock, loved the NPR recommendations, ran right out, they were sold out of Dead Gene Pool so I ordered it (am still sending books to prisons, in fact the same one where Wally Lamb volunteers, so every book goes to a good home)...but did get The Three Weismanns one and it looks super.

Also got Zoo Story, which is highly recommended about...guess..zoos, not an expose, supposedly a great book.

Carried Gentlemen and Players everywhere with me and brought it home which I never do, every ounce counts, but will never let it go. LOVED it. One of the pleasures of being in England is they have books often before we do, she (Joanne Harris, also author of Chocolat and Five Quarters of the Orange) has a new one out, Blueeyed  Boy, which is the closest she says to Gentlemen  and Players. Had to have it. They don't have it here but they did in London, snapped it up, hardback and all. Then Zafon has a new one out, came out in May, ghosts, snapped it up, bag became in need of a camel to hoist on the train, I didn't care: BOOKS!

Blueeyed Boy is about the internet and the question of identity. How people create themselves in this medium and the consequences. I think it's an intriguing premise and knowing her I know it's well written. Can't wait to start it.

While gone I read an article on summer reading and the Best Plane Books and they mentioned Open or something like that by Andre Agassi. I don't particularly like Agassi or tennis. I can't play well and didn't know much about him but I gulp got it in the airport in hardback..no other choice.... and couldn't put it down. Wow.

Every father needs to read that one about pushing their children into sports. He hated tennis. Absolutely hated it, but as a prodigy as his father pointed out, he had only an 8th grade education, what else was he suited for?  Turned pro in his teens. It's about winning and losing.

 At 36 he has to sleep on the floor, even standing up is a major feat, he's destroyed physically, has to bandage his feet till they were the size of casts just to play. It's an eye opener. He's founded a college prep academy for underprivileged children which he's very proud of and he and his wife Stephanie Graff (which she prefers to be called) have decided their two children will not play tennis at all.

It's something else, I do recommend it. Lovely conversations here and in the Non Fiction area, congratulations, Mabel (Jean) on your coming series of lectures. I know nothing of that subject, how exciting. I hope somehow you'll share some of that with us.

Zeitoun which a lot of people are talking about is a super book, too.

What's everybody reading? I get the best ideas here!


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« Reply #2157 on: August 01, 2010, 01:29:58 PM »
Hi Ginny, Welcome back!

I am reading The Forgotten Man (belatedly) and Shadow of the Wind at the moment.

Most recent buy and currently on top of my TBR pile is Mankell's The Return of the Dancing Master.

Recently finshed The House at Riverton. Hard to put down. Unexpected twist to the ending. Loved it.

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« Reply #2158 on: August 01, 2010, 01:40:47 PM »
Hi Ginny -Welcome back I'm glad to know you're home safe.

I've seen that Agassi book on the stands -think I'll pick it up now you've whetted my appetite. I'm a tennis tragic but don't read their life stories much...

I'm trying to read Iris Murdoch's last book Jackson's Dilemma - it's been on my reading table for yonks but somehow I can't get into it. The pundits say they can see evidence of her early onset Alzheimers in the writing - wonder if that's what is turning me off.

Frybabe Enjoy the Zafon - I loved it. I should look around for his latest.

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« Reply #2159 on: August 01, 2010, 02:37:24 PM »
Ginny and Gumtree here is Zafon's website. http://www.carlosruizzafon.co.uk/

Click on the "click here" at the top of the page and you can see a trailer for The Prince of the Mist. He has done something I have never seen before. He has composed an entire soundtrack to download and listen to while reading. Talented fellow. I've just changed out my desktop wallpaper to the cat's eyes.

PS Ginny, Amazon UK says The Prince of the Mist stayed at the top of the Spanish book charts for two years.