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JoanR

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Re: The Library
« Reply #2720 on: September 27, 2010, 11:45:48 AM »

The Library



Our library cafe is open 24/7, the welcome mat is  always out.
Do come in from daily chores and spend some time with us.

We look forward to hearing from you, about you and the books you are enjoying (or not).


Let the book talk begin here!





Re: Libraries  -  Did anyone else see this in today's NYT?  Scary.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/27/business/27libraries.html?ref=business

maryz

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Re: The Library
« Reply #2721 on: September 27, 2010, 11:53:16 AM »
Never heard of such a thing, Joan.  The ones in TN are way at the other end of the state from us.  Our library is a function of the city and the county - which is its primary problem - having to beg to two governments for funding.  I'm not usually in favor of private management for such things - but I don't know that it could be worse than what we have now.

Mahlia, my sister lived in Columbia, MD, for many years.  Her first husband is an architect, on the faculty at UofMD, and was part of the design firm that designed Columbia.
"When someone you love dies, you never quite get over it.  You just learn how to go on without them. But always keep them safely tucked in your heart."

Persian

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« Reply #2722 on: September 27, 2010, 12:14:55 PM »
MARYPAGE - I saw a couple of earlier interviews with the fellow you mentioned from the 60 Minutes program.  Good representative of multicultural and multi-faith backgrounds.  I think I recall he mentioned that his Father is Egyptian.  When I listened to him, he demonstrated that well-known NYC sense of humor, coupled with a strong business sense, specifically the "why not" attitude.  Afterall, "this IS NYC" his comments seemed to say!

MARY - I recall when Columbia, MD was THE NEW PLACE TO LIVE.  I had several friends who lived in the area and they always joked that it was so much easier for them to get to the Wharf in Baltimore for a delicious meal then to travel to DC!  And I also had several good friends in the UMCP Dept. of Architecture.  They've probably retired now (like me)!

Mahlia

mrssherlock

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« Reply #2723 on: September 27, 2010, 12:30:12 PM »
Ohmigawd!  "hiring staff and buying books".  What will happen to the publishing business now?  School books are already in danger when a centralized, state-wide list of approved books controls our children's learning.  Amazon is exerting pressure on publishers with its potential volume of sales.  Now a for-profit firm is making book-buying decisions, based on profit, for libraries all over the country.   We're doomed.
Jackie
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Steph

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« Reply #2724 on: September 27, 2010, 01:25:49 PM »
      Just as I promised.. Simply Gifts, A Memoir of a Shaker Village by June Sprigg.. I love it..
Mahlia, Our library is not into sharing.. The students have priorities for the computers, etc.. Very small amount of books.. large amount of children and juvenile... and of course all sorts of things to compliment the community college classes. This is a bedroom suburb and there are very few businesses here.. None of which is remotely interested in libraries or helping.. Alas.. I know the kind of communities you are talking about, but in this part of Florida,, mostly the tea party group rules. I keep a low profile.. The only interesting thing in the library is the local genealogical society. They asked for a room and got it.. They have stocked it with computers and books and tapes, etc.. Now are building up a fine newspaper cliping area.. All on them and with contributions. I have been helping with this since I have a very large library compiled over the years of genealogy.. The genealogy group monitors their room.. Makes sure that students understand that the three computers are for family research.. and manages to teach computer genealogy several times a month and staffs the room to help people.. They do a fine fine job..
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MaryPage

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« Reply #2725 on: September 27, 2010, 02:04:53 PM »
My oldest son (I have 3) lives in Columbia, Maryland.  It takes him about 45 minutes to come here to visit me in Annapolis.  He goes to the Kennedy Center at the Watergate in D.C. (I am so old, I can remember when those buildings were not yet built and there really WAS a Watergate concert held in the evenings.  We sat on concrete steps built into the riverside and the orchestra, usually the NSO, was on a barge out in the Potomac!) all the time, and to the museums and art galleries there, and ditto in Baltimore.  A wonderful, central place to live.

One of my daughters teaches First Grade in Kansas City, Missouri and she keeps her kids alert and interested by teaching them a Geography curriculum I wrote for her.  This is the third year she has taught it, and she won a large grant of money from the school district to aid in teaching it.  Little kids are dying to go to school and learn "stuff," and get bored in a hurry if it is just reading, writing and arithmetic.  Her first graders know their world map better than most American adults by the time we get to the end of the year, plus there are 40 or more countries they can tell you all about.  No politics, religion, finance (except they learn to count to 10 in the language of each country), or much history;  they learn six year old stuff.  Each year, each child writes an essay on their favorite of the nations studied.  Most seem to love Thailand;  apparently because the kids there ride elephants!  They recognize and draw and color all of the 40 + flags and simple maps.  If you ask them, as Becky always does, thinking questions about the different places, such as:  "Can you think of a big difference between Switzerland and Japan?", they will all think hard until at least one raises their hand and gives exactly the answer she is looking for.

Switzerland is surrounded by land and Japan by water!  Mind you, Becky has never pointed this out to them.  She is teaching them to think, read, spell (they adore those big words!), count, and be aware.

mabel1015j

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« Reply #2726 on: September 27, 2010, 02:10:03 PM »
Some Republican Senators, namely Damint and other conservatives have just completely halted a bill to build a Women's History Museum in Washington. There is no cost to the gov't and taxpayers, it's all being done with private funds. Meryl Streep is chairing a group to push for people to sign a petition to the Senate to encourage them to just put it up for a vote. The House of Rep passed it unanimously, the committee passed it to the floor of the Senate unanimously, but each senator has the right to hold up any bill and Damint and some others are doing just that - there is no rhyme or reason...............to see more about the Museum and to sign the petition go to

 www.nwhm.org.

if you are so inclinded...............jean

ANNIE

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« Reply #2727 on: September 27, 2010, 06:35:04 PM »
If they are able to build that museum, I hope they will bring all the info from the one in Senaca Falls.  Lots of interesting info about the women we don't hear about.
"No distance of place or lapse of time can lessen the friendship of those who are thoroughly persuaded of each other's worth." Robert Southey

Persian

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« Reply #2728 on: September 27, 2010, 07:06:35 PM »
MARYPAGE - the curriculum you described writing for your daughter sounds so familiar!  It is very similar to the one I began with in our Kindergarten, First and Second grades in Athens, MI a gazillion years ago.  That and my Children's Bible with marvelous maps of the world are what I always have believed encouraged me at an early age to learn about THE WORLD.  Wouldn't it be terrific if many more of our schools offered the same (or similar) types of learning opportunities?

Mahlia

FlaJean

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« Reply #2729 on: September 27, 2010, 07:36:16 PM »
For a small town, we have a very nice library.  It is so encouraging to see the young children checking out their books.  The children have a separation section of the library.  There are always people of all ages browsing the library shelves.

jane

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« Reply #2730 on: September 27, 2010, 07:40:16 PM »
FlaJean...that's what I see at my local library, too.People upstairs in the adult and teen areas and on the library's computers or using their own laptops with the free WiFi and the children downstairs in their space and those wanting to trace family in the genealogy room.

jane

mabel1015j

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« Reply #2731 on: September 27, 2010, 07:55:26 PM »
What does "report to moderator" with a number mean at the bottom of my last MSG?......did I do something wrong?........Jean

jane

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« Reply #2732 on: September 27, 2010, 08:02:21 PM »
Nope...nothing wrong.  We all have that.

The Report to Moderator is for use if you see a message that is inappropriate...for example, if someone would post porn or something patently obscene, etc.  It alerts the site administrators to the offending post quickly.

The numbers you see (and only you see your own) is your IP address.  It would be used for those inappropriate messages I mentioned above.  The site administrators could ban someone with that information.

jane

Tomereader1

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« Reply #2733 on: September 27, 2010, 08:03:39 PM »
They're kickin' your butt, mabel, for mentioning "politics", probably.
Ffolks in some of these forums get truly bent outta shape.
The reading of a fine book is an uninterrupted dialogue in which the book speaks and our soul replies.


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Tomereader1

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« Reply #2734 on: September 27, 2010, 08:05:01 PM »
Now my reply to you, mabel, is now showing my IP address when it has not done so before.  What's up, Jane?  No one else's IP is showing!
The reading of a fine book is an uninterrupted dialogue in which the book speaks and our soul replies.


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jane

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« Reply #2735 on: September 27, 2010, 08:10:57 PM »
It's always been like that, to my knowledge.

You only see your own numbers...you see "logged" for everyone else's.

 The administrators would see the numbers of any posts that were so bad that corrective action needed to be taken to ban that individual from posting.  I don't think that's ever happened here, but there are some very persistent spammers who try to get into websites.

jane

bellemere

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« Reply #2736 on: September 27, 2010, 08:11:07 PM »
I spoke today with our library director. Our city is replacing its 100 year old library, and the construction starts in a year.  She is seekig a place to put all the books and computers and continue service while the construction goes on!  There is no shortage of empty buildings in this old depressed New England factory town, but very few that can bear the weight of the books, offer access regardless of disability, located near public transortation, and have adjacent parking.  It is going to be a huge problem and her time is limited.  It looks like the best bet is an old paper mill that formerly bore heavy machinery, and has been renovated to house  small businesses. 

Tomereader1

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« Reply #2737 on: September 27, 2010, 08:17:59 PM »
okay, Jane,  I get that about the IPS.  Thanks.
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« Reply #2738 on: September 27, 2010, 08:29:09 PM »
bellemere....yikes! Does she have a big job ahead of her!! 

I hope she's got good people to help her move. I had something on a much, much smaller scale...and the problem was stopping people from moving books without any sort of organization.

They wanted to just come in and grab books and take them to the new site.I remember hyperventilating and screaming, " NO!  It can't be done that way!  It has to be done properly so the books end up in order at the new site or we'll never find anything."

  Trying to get that message across to well meaning but clueless people was the most difficult part of the job.

jane

marcie

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Re: The Library
« Reply #2739 on: September 27, 2010, 10:48:15 PM »
Steph, thank you for the title of the book, Simply Gifts, A Memoir of a Shaker Village by June Sprigg. My library has it!

pedln

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« Reply #2740 on: September 27, 2010, 10:56:48 PM »
Bellemere and Jane, but it can be done.  Our library here gutted, enlarged, renovated and had to move out for more than 18 months -- into an empty K's Merchandise store.  It worked.  And now we have a wonderful, practically brand new library, very well-used by all ages.

And I am so grateful that it is funded by a library tax, the director reports to a library board. It is not run by the city council or the county.

I saw that article, JoanK.  I wonder who does the book and media selecting

kiwilady

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« Reply #2741 on: September 28, 2010, 12:22:47 AM »
In our library system you fill in a request form with the title and author of a new book and 99 times out of 100 that book will be bought. They take client preferences into consideration.

Carolyn

Steph

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« Reply #2742 on: September 28, 2010, 06:16:55 AM »
Since our library is a county facility and the county has no extra money, they look in the other libraries to see about a book.. Then there is a magic number that they have to reach. No DVD's at all this year. We are encouraging donations of DVD's,CD's along with used books.. Our library gets first pick and then the rest go for our book sale in February
Stephanie and assorted corgi

Babi

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« Reply #2743 on: September 28, 2010, 09:09:03 AM »
 oops!  That should have been "Zeitoun", MARJ. My brain wasn't keeping up
with my fingers. And I loved your post about the enterprising young Brooklyn
'lad'.
  Wow, your geography program sounds marvelous! I wish I had it. The kids
knowledge of geography is already far better than mine.

 I'm planning to ask our children's librarian about 'Wriggle and Rhyme', too,
as soon as she gets back. Her section is very active, tho', with programs
for the kids of all ages.
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

jane

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« Reply #2744 on: September 28, 2010, 09:46:26 AM »
Carolyn...Patron requests for new books rate at the top here as well.  She does a marvelous job getting items people want and knowing the types that are popular with patrons with what are always limited funds.

Our story times includes one for mothers with babies who haven't yet begun to walk...for stimulation, etc. for the baby and new mom.  It's proven popular, I'm told.

Yes, Pedln, it can indeed be done, but eager volunteers must, I think, listen to the director and follow the move as she wants it done.  [My principal simply wanted to send large groups of students down to grab whatever books they came upon and move them to the new spot. That's when I started with the "No, it can't be done that way if you want this move to work and to be in any order when it gets there and when it gets back to the new space."]

jane


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« Reply #2745 on: September 28, 2010, 11:29:06 AM »
Ah, Jane, yes I understand what happens in school libraries.  I had to move mine into the cafeteria over the summer twice -- once when we moved from upstairs to downstairs, and many years later when we replaced the carpeting.

The first was a nightmare as we had to collect our own boxes (mostly chicken boxes) and then depend on the custodians to get them three flights of stairs.  One custodian was so disgusted that he complained, "that woman is impossible, she wants all those books in order."

The second time worked much better.  The National HOnor Society kids got service points and they didn't need much explanation.

Administration really didn't have a clue.  I'm sure we could trade war stories.    ;D

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« Reply #2746 on: September 28, 2010, 12:50:29 PM »
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One custodian was so disgusted that he complained, "that woman is impossible, she wants all those books in order."

Geez....ya think??  What a concept!  I'm sure we could trade a lot of war stories! I'm glad those days are long behind me. ;D

kiwilady

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« Reply #2747 on: September 29, 2010, 01:03:34 AM »
Jane I am sure its the same program as we have. It is also to stimulate the babies with physical exercise as well as the music and rhymes.

Carolyn

Steph

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« Reply #2748 on: September 29, 2010, 06:01:03 AM »
 I just found an article yesterday in the paper about a new program called Brain Games, that is supposed to be helpful for us mature types to keep up our memories. The local one in Orange county is run by Winter Park Library and is called Lifelong Learning. I emailed them about it since in my county ( Lake) we have nothing like that and I wondered.. I heard back from the administrater and she wants to call and talk to me. I sent off my phone and am waiting to hear. Our county has not extra money, especially for libraries..
But I am hopeful. I live in an area that does not even do meals on wheels , just congregate meals twice a week at a church..Sad but true. We need elder programs.
Stephanie and assorted corgi

mabel1015j

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« Reply #2749 on: September 29, 2010, 01:09:42 PM »
I remember talking to a Florida resident about how low the taxes are there. But he told us there were very few social services therefore. It sounds like that's still true......Jean

Persian

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« Reply #2750 on: September 29, 2010, 01:59:45 PM »
STEPH - your comments about the Brain Games reminded me of a volunteer program we set up a few years ago when we lived in Maryland.  It was called Brains for the Century, and encouraged folks of all ages to participate.  Some folks served as Great Minds, who made suggestions to enhance the program, encourage participants to STRETCH their minds (and therefore their interests) in many different ways.  I recall one fellow who stood up and called out "hands up, hands down, hands to the side."  And with each gesture, another one of his buddies called out an idea for the group to pursue.

Another fellow (who turned out to be a Veteran), gathered a bunch together and in military parlance gave instructions on how to explore "lands you've never heard of," meaning ideas that might not have come easily to folks, but would surely be interesting.  He based his comments on the "foreign" lands to which he was assigned when he was on active duty.  And when he had collected a bunch of ideas, he called out "STAND DOWN."

But the one I liked best and thought to be the most innovative was the guy in the group who named himself "Just Ask."  The name was his way of encouraging folks not to be hesitant, but to just ask about topics which they would like to discuss, explore as a group or just think about and "report back to base."  There were folks of many different backgrounds, economic levels, and life experiences.  It was a truly engaging opportunity for all.

Mahlia

mabel1015j

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« Reply #2751 on: September 29, 2010, 08:31:54 PM »
Just finished a couple books that were part of series: Miss Julia Delvers the Goods, which is my 7th MJ books. It was my least favorite. Ross took 300 pages keeping a guy from knowing his girlfriend was pregnant. I'm sick of pregnancy stories, on tv & in books. I've concluded that when writers can't come up w/an idea they write a secret pregnancy story. But I still loved Miss Julia, a small-town, prissy Presbyterian, who stubbornly bends when her love, and concern to be human, overcomes her "rules" about how things SHOULD be.

The other was my second in the FBI series of Catherine Coulter, Blow Out. Liked it a lot. I like the married-couple agents. She writes good stories and I like her characters.

I didn't finish By Hook or by Crook, a "crochet mystery". Too bad, I was looking forward to a good " crochet mystery".......Jean

kiwilady

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« Reply #2752 on: September 29, 2010, 08:38:29 PM »
I have never minded my tax being used for the library walking tracks etc but I have got mad in the past when a huge new City Building was constructed when the old one was still a lovely and well kept one. Now its no use to anyone as we are becoming part of a super city to be known only as Auckland city and the four smaller cities making up the Auckland region cease to exist as from Nov 1. We had North Shore city, Auckland city, Manukau City and Waitakere city (where I live.) The new city also swallows up Rodney and Franklin counties. Each of the old cities had a distinctive culture. We are determined to keep our culture as a green eco city alive when we become part of the super city. I am all for a higher tax rate if services reflect this.

winsummm

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« Reply #2753 on: September 30, 2010, 03:41:16 AM »
re the location of mosques and religion in general. re stephen hawkens new book and its theme A MODEL DEPENDENT REALITY I find it much adoe about nothing much only if you are dependent on that reality the one which requires to consider any religion a powerful force in your life. Musllims, jews, christions pagans each depend on a different reality for their life style and morality so how can it matter in this case. Let the center at park 51 serve its commumity in any and all of its many realities.

claire ::)
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Steph

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« Reply #2754 on: September 30, 2010, 06:23:14 AM »
Yes, sad, but true, that Florida has very few taxes, no state tax,, they do have sales tax.. and it is still truer that people are passionate about this. I think it is awful. Our schools are not good, our libraries suffer, social services is on its last legs.. Elder services are terrible. Medicaid is only for people with minor children.. Our voter base is older than most states and they are not into sharing..
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FlaJean

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« Reply #2755 on: September 30, 2010, 10:29:05 AM »
I am also in Florida.  We have a good library and good services for seniors who need them.  In fact we have a Senior Citizen Dept.  They have transportation, Meals on Wheels, and in Home support.  Seniors pay on a sliding scale according to their ability.  They also have a couple of areas that serve meals at a reasonable price and provide times to meet and play cards, show movies, etc.  Luckily, my husband and I have not needed any services but I often see the Senior bus come down our street for a widowed neighbor who doesn't drive.

This is all provided by our county with city input.  So I guess it depends on your Florida location.  We live within the city limits and pay both city and county real estate taxes, but we have no complaints here.

On two occasions we have voted to raise our sales taxes for a limited time for certain things.  One time was a 1/2 cent increase for 5 years for school construction, another time a 1 cent tax for two years for roads, etc.

MaryPage

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« Reply #2756 on: September 30, 2010, 12:13:12 PM »
Carolyn, I am behind in reading my NEW YORKER, and just last night I read in the September 6 issue about a doctor in Dunedin who murdered his wife.  Ghastly story.  Colin Bouwer his name.  What do you know about this from your papers down there?

Phyll

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« Reply #2757 on: September 30, 2010, 12:40:03 PM »
Finally, my name sifted up the list and I received "The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society" from my public library.  And I am loving it!  I'm just sorry that it has taken so long for me to have a chance to read this wonderful book.  It started out as a bit of fluff and I thought I might be disappointed but as it goes on it becomes so much more revealing of the terrible times during WW II that the people of Britain endured but still, it keeps it sense of humor.  I'm reading it fast because it is so good but I may go back and read it more slowly just to find the things I might have missed.
phyllis

mrssherlock

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« Reply #2758 on: September 30, 2010, 12:43:59 PM »
My sister is a big fan of audio books and she says this one is the best, she plays it over and over, the voices are so good.  My library doesn't have the CDs.  I loved the book and I hope I can hear the audio one day.
Jackie
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« Reply #2759 on: September 30, 2010, 12:46:59 PM »
Phyll, we discussed "The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Society" here.  You're right--it's excellent.