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Steph

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3120 on: November 28, 2010, 06:40:59 AM »

The Library



Our library cafe is open 24/7, the welcome mat is  always out.
Do come in from daily chores and spend some time with us.

We look forward to hearing from you, about you and the books you are enjoying (or not).


Let the book talk begin here!





I do wish I could find a community in North Carolina.. Florida retirement communities mostly are huge golf meccas or like the Villages and run by people I do not care to be with. The man who developed the Villages and still basically has the final word there is a horror to a liberal human like me.
I had heard of Medford Leas. I have a cousin who lives very very close. She has been looking at it, but her husband is adamant about not moving... They own a large house on three acres and it is simply too much for them.. She says that Medford Les is truly lovely.. Lots of do, but New Jersey is way too cold for me. She has lived there for almost 50 years now.
Stephanie and assorted corgi

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« Reply #3121 on: November 28, 2010, 11:10:50 AM »
I think those retirement villages and centers affiliated with universities are a fabulous idea. I hope you find one you like,   Stephanie.

I hope everybody had a super Thanksgiving, I just finished the BEST time, reading almost non stop, something I have not done in ages. Yesterday at Ingels grocery (who have taken to selling books too at incredible prices) I spied a paperback by Lincoln Child which I had not read, called Death Match.  It's not new. Yes he's one of the two, Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child of Relic fame but this one is quite different and honestly I sat down yesterday with it and just now finished it, it's that kind of book. Lovely to curl up with a lap robe (I MUST be getting old? I keep thinking of sleigh rides and my electric lap robe hahaha), a fire,  and a good book.

It's about computers, computer scientists, hi tech gone amok, and a computer dating service, which matches the "perfect couples" and it's just fascinating, nothing remotely "Relic" about it,  no turn your head away gore, no monsters, no  anything but beautiful suspense,  but it's very sci fi like too. I love it.  It would make a fabulous movie, too.  That guy can really write.

But it was just the luxury of sitting down contentedly with a book and reading on and on into the night and getting up and reading on, totally immersed in a good  book which made the holiday complete, for me, and it was a good one anyway.   Hope yours was!

So what are you reading this Thanksgiving and what's on your holiday Wish List?


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Re: The Library
« Reply #3122 on: November 28, 2010, 11:41:43 AM »
Hi Ginny, I can relate.  I just met my goal of 100 hours of volunteer time at the city's historic house museum, and now my weekends are free!  As a football widow I have minimal responsibilities to the Back of the Head that I see in the TV room, just a sandwich will do for supper!  I am reading
"The Unnamed" by Joshua Ferris, one of the "20 under 40 " promising young writers according to the New Yorker.  After a November diet of Barbara Pym, wonderful as she is, I felt the need for some contemporary male perspective.  I think he is great, although this book is not as good as his first, "Then We Came to the End", a peek into the work world of my children and grandchildren. On the 9 of December my Book Club has the annual Luncheon where we give a paperback book to a name we have drawn, talk about the books over lunch and then vote on one to be our
January selection.  I am giving Kristin Lavransdatter to a member who is very religiously devout, I think she will find Kristin's story quite absorging.  Of course, she could hate it.
And hello Steph.  If only the cold wasn't your defining criterion, I live near a splended Amherst community sponsered by the Five Colleges here, where there is no shortage of liberal political views, as well as a staggering array of cultural events. I hate the cold, too, but am too rooted in New England to ever live anywhere else.  I love my short winter vacation in Mexico, but always glad to get home.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3123 on: November 28, 2010, 01:07:41 PM »
Steph - the Kendal is a lovely place in the Shenandoah in Lexington, Virginia! Here's a link, you probably saw it - http://kalex.kendal.org/

They have cottages and apartments - let you stay as a guest to really get the feel for the place - and the chance to answer all the questions you want of the residents.  That is an important feature, I think.

Notice that it is within Walking Distance of Washington and Lee University...one of the top private colleges in the country. ( Washington and Lee's ranking in the 2011 edition of Best Colleges is National Liberal Arts Colleges, 14.)  It was founded in 1749 - Loaded with history - George Washington, Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee.   Robert E Lee was president there following the Civil War  A real college town.  We go out for some of the performances and lectures - probably did more in the !990's when second son attended - but you will really be pleasantly surprised at all the Kendal and the town has to offer.

rosemarykaye

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« Reply #3124 on: November 28, 2010, 03:53:05 PM »
Ginny - that sounds like the perfect way to spend a holiday.  It's many years since I read a book from cover to cover non-stop, but since our beloved dog died, I do enjoy reading in bed in the mornings - it feels so self-indulgent, when I used to be up at 6am to walk the canine.  Also I am much more alert then than late in the evening.  It's not that many years since I used to get up and not only walk the dog but at the same time chivvy three children into getting up, make their breakfasts, plait Madeleine's hair, etc - now the other two are away, and M would run screaming from the room if I suggested a plait!

I was looking for a book for my neighbour to read the other day (unlike us she doesn't keep any books - she's maniacally tidy, which means I get a lot of pleasure in looking for books from my shelves that I think she would enjoy) and I realised that I have so many unread novels that I really should concentrate on them for a while, though that won't stop me making wish lists on Amazon I'm afraid.

Rosemary

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3125 on: November 28, 2010, 11:43:41 PM »
Just heard that Leslie Nielson passed away. I really liked his Naked Gun and Dead and Loving It.

Picked up The Woman in White by Wilkie Collins at the Dollar Tree. Nice leather or facimile cover. I just love those dollar bargains.

Rosemarykaye, I got a glimpse of the snow storm you all got on BBC America the other night. I guess we can expect some of that here soon. It has been trying, but not much has happened yet.

Steph

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« Reply #3126 on: November 29, 2010, 05:51:12 AM »
J oan P.. yes I already got an email from someone at Kendal. Lexington looks really lovely. Mostly though I worry about the cold. I have lived back in Florida for over 20 years and truly do not tolerate cold well at all. It is to think about as a friend of mine used to say..Very tempting though and I may in the end try an early spring visit.. We will see. My sons would have a fit.. Mom is supposed to want to move down by them in southwest Florida.. Again I will see. I simply am not overfond of southwest Florida..and the constant heat is much stronger there.. My perfect place would be in the mountains in North Carolina, but have not seen any communities quite so interesting there. Kendall has a lot of appeal for me.
Stephanie and assorted corgi

ginny

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« Reply #3127 on: November 29, 2010, 07:16:50 AM »
Bellemere, congratulations on finishing  100 hours of volunteer time at the city's historic house museum!!  That's wonderful! What history do you talk about there? ( I don't know what part of the country you're in) and do you have a lot of visitors?

I loved this: On the 9 of December my Book Club has the annual Luncheon where we give a paperback book to a name we have drawn, talk about the books over lunch and then vote on one to be our There's something about that I just love, I guess we do it virtually here, or maybe we could try? We might try that at the holiday party coming up, bring a gift of...a virtual gift of a paperback book and explain about it? Or we could do that right here. I love that idea!

Rosemarykaye, you too? that sounds like the perfect way to spend a holiday.  It's many years since I read a book from cover to cover non-stop, but since our beloved dog died, I do enjoy reading in bed in the mornings - it feels so self-indulgent,   We just lost our last of three old dogs in a  year  the day before Thanksgiving so I can definitely relate. Seems odd, I still jump up and start for the door, myself.

So we're dogless for the first time in 30 years, and we may stay that way, they don't live long enough and you do get so attached.

Stephanie, I do understand about the cold but the Asheville area is quite cold, isn't it? I know they have snow when we don't.


Frybabe: I love those old bargains, too. Especially with pretty colors. The Phillip Pirages new catalog of illuminated ms  came in the mail Saturday,  and I had a lovely sit before the fire dreaming about  things I can't own. If any of you are interested in illustrated ms and or priceless expensive old books, look him up on the internet, he has two catalogs, one for books and one for illuminated ms and books, and  the new illuminated ms  catalog alone fills one with great guilt if one does not buy something.  hahaha Unfortunately my taste has improved  out of proportion to my budget. :)

Also the Bas Bleu catalog came, and I love their book catalogs too, also on line, they use readers as reviewers,   and I got several books I'd been meaning to read including The Lodger which for some reason I've never read and a Georgette Heyer: Why Shoot a Butler or something like that.


Am now deep in Dorothy Cannell's God Save the Queen, it's cute. It really is lovely to be reading again. It's just escapist fare with me,  I'm afraid, at the moment,  but it's fun. :)


As a football widow I have minimal responsibilities to the Back of the Head that I see in the TV room  HA! hhahaa, good on you that you CAN read, why is it , I can almost tell the sport by the screaming of the fans which seems to be getting louder as the years pass or is it my imagination/ the volume? Basketball is the worst, it's a miracle the people in the stands don't have strokes: non stop screaming.

I've gotten, and this is strange, that while I can not read and immerse self in a book if screaming is going on (what does that sentence say about our modern lives? hahaha) I CAN type on the computer. Not sure which skills are being  used here. hahaa

I keep hearing about Then We Came to the End, I'll look it up!  One thing I like about the e readers is you can try a book out in excerpts first to see if you like it (some books). I think I'll try that one, still reading Keith Richards bio, which again seems all I can read on the e readers so far: non fiction.

What's everybody enjoying reading?







Babi

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3128 on: November 29, 2010, 09:10:49 AM »
 I never thought of checking the book section at Dollar Tree, FRYBABE. I just assumed
they wouldn't have anything I'd be interested in. Very snooty of me, I suppose. You
ertainly can't beat "Woman in White" for quality literature. I'll have to remember that
next time I'm over that way.

  Don't the mountains get pretty cold in winter, too, STEPH? Mountains are so lovely
to drive through, but I'd certainly have a hard time taking a walk there. It caught
my attention, during a drive through West Virginia, that the people who live there all
seem to walk with a slightly forward tilt, as though always on an incline.  ;D
   
 
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bellemere

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« Reply #3129 on: November 29, 2010, 09:42:50 AM »
I keep seeing ads for a retirement community called Fearrington, in Chapel Hill, North Carolina.  I guess it has some affiliation with the University, maybe just proximity.  I don't think the winter is severe there.

Frybabe

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« Reply #3130 on: November 29, 2010, 12:46:56 PM »
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I just assumed they wouldn't have anything I'd be interested in.

Well, me too BABI. Every once and a while I would glance over them and crinkle my nose. Lately, however, they seem to have a better selection. The other week I picked up a book by Brooks & Dunn (with someone else, of course) which has a CD included at the back. I don't know if it is a single song CD or a whole album. The novel is supposed to be based on one of their songs. I got the book for Mom, who is a huge Brooks & Dunn fan. I mentioned the book to a girl at college this morning. She said their is a Lifetime movie scheduled, based on one of their songs. Don't know if it is the same as the book. I'll have to check it out and see if Mom gets that channel on her cable.

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« Reply #3131 on: November 29, 2010, 12:47:28 PM »
Our f2f group has been reading "Bel Canto" by Ann Patchett and will discuss it on next Monday.  Once started, its a book, one does not want to put down.  Wonderful story with humor, fear and music.   I  truly enjoyed it.  The old group from SN discussed it in 2002.  Here's a link to the discussion.   We discussed it almost exactly 8 yrs ago after Thanksgiving.

http://www.seniorlearn.org/bookclubs/archives/fiction/BelCanto.htm

Also have finished, "The Other Wes Moore" by Wes Moore which was quite interesting.  A story about two men with the same name but not quite different lives.  One could easily have been the other.  Very thought provoking!

Steph,
In Atlanta, we have friends who have chosen "Somerby of Alpharetta" and it sounds very nice.  They did not have to put up a large amount of money either.   Plus the office there helped them get ready to move and supervised their placement of furniture and pictures so well, my friend says she didn't have to change anything. She also said that they have independent and assisted living.   We lived in and out of Atlanta for 18 years and I still love to go to visit but many of my friends have moved away or passed away.  
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« Reply #3132 on: November 29, 2010, 12:52:02 PM »
I have read "Bel Canto" twice!  It is a wonderful book, isn't it.  I just got so involved with the characters.
The reading of a fine book is an uninterrupted dialogue in which the book speaks and our soul replies.


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« Reply #3133 on: November 29, 2010, 01:21:08 PM »
Frybabe, the Lifetime movie "Unanswered Prayers" is on tonight.  It's based on a song by Garth Brooks.

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« Reply #3134 on: November 29, 2010, 03:11:59 PM »
Steph,
Here's a link to Somerby of Alpharetta, should you be interested.  Its in northern Atlanta, in Fulton County.
Also, I just noticed that they have four places around the south.  Birmingham,AL, Charleston,SC, Mobile,AL and Atlanta.  Looks very nice!

http://www.somerbyofalpharetta.com/
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rosemarykaye

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« Reply #3135 on: November 29, 2010, 03:31:38 PM »
We have a shop called Poundland that is perhaps similar to Dollar Tree.  I go there to buy wild bird food, but they also have a book section; it's completely unpredictable, and much of it is rubbish, but every so often they have something amazing - I have found The Assassin's Cloak, one of my favourite books and £20 in Waterstones, in there for £1 (obviously  :)), also The Diamond of Drury Lane by Julia Golding, and several other novels and non-fiction books that I've been delighted to snap up.  Nothing like a bargain for raising the spirits!

R

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« Reply #3136 on: November 29, 2010, 05:09:21 PM »
Bel Canto!  Wonderful book. A few years ago I went to a "brunch with Renee Fleming" at Conde Nast in New york , amd she said she tried to get the rights to Bel Canto and peraps make a movie of it.  She would be perfect.  Even reading the book, I kept seeing her. Wonder why she couldn't get it?
Ginny, our house museum is the family home of an early industriallst who founded a huge silk mill and employed many citizents of Holyoke, until the textile business went south. It is a beautiful old mansion and gives a picture of a way of life long gon.  Do you like house museums?  There are a lot of them in Massachusetts, all different.  My favorite is the home of John and Abigail
Adams and the home of Louisa May Alcott.

Frybabe

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« Reply #3137 on: November 29, 2010, 06:34:40 PM »
Thanks Callie, I just checked the listings before calling Mom and saw that my classmate confused Garth Brooks with Brooks and Dunn. I see Eric Close is starring. I am probably not going to watch. Since I have some spare time tonight, I think I am going to relax on the sofa with The Forgotten Man. I finally got about half way through, but it has been slow since my time has been taken up by classes and homework.

CallieOK

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« Reply #3138 on: November 29, 2010, 07:45:40 PM »
Good idea, Frybabe.  Ronny Brooks and Garth Brooks are both Oklahomans but, as far as I know, they aren't related; I know they didn't grow up in the same part of the state.  The movie received a big write-up in yesterday's paper.   I didn't care for the description of the theme/plot so don't plan to watch it, either.

I'm reading "The Red Queen" by Phillippa Gregory.

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« Reply #3139 on: November 29, 2010, 08:42:46 PM »
I've just started to read a book i think some of you might like. The Food of a Younger Land by Mark Kurlansky. He found, in the Library of Congress, a file of a WPA that was a collection of bits and pieces about food from different regions of the country. The information was to result in a book titled "America Eats"but it never got edited and published. The cover statement says: " A portrait of American food - before the nat'l highway system, before chain restaurants, and before frozen food, when the nation's food was seasonal, regional and traditional -from the lost WPA files."

It has some recipes-sort of, at least the ingredients, i. e. Sweet pumpkin pickle from VT, Long Island rabbit stew, Kentucky spoon bread, Mississippi molasses pie, Ind pork cake, Oregon salmon bbq. There are different words for the same food indifferent parts of the country, their is poetry abt food, how and when people ate, etc, etc.
 
Kurlansky mentioned that growing up in the 40's he remembers only A & W Root Beer and Howard Johnson as chain restaurants, i cldn't think of any others, either except for Woolworth's, which was really a 5&10, and that's what we called it, " the 5&10," not "the 5&10 cent store!"  What time did you have "dinner?" Did you have "supper?"....Comments?................Jean 

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« Reply #3140 on: November 29, 2010, 09:41:29 PM »
Kurlansky has written some interesting books - "Salt", "Cod", "The Big Oyster", "A Basque History of the World", etc.

We usually ate our main meal of the day about 6 p.m.  I really don't remember, but I'd guess we called it supper - and I think that's what we called it with our kids.  I considered them pretty much interchangeable - both meaning the evening meal.  Unless, maybe for "Sunday dinner", which would be midday.  Now I'm confused. ???
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« Reply #3141 on: November 30, 2010, 06:07:12 AM »
Yes, yes, it does get too cold around Asheville, although I do love the city very much. Thanks for the link to somerby.. Will try it later today. Chapel Hill sounds nice.. Actually I am still wavering about the independent,assisted,etc. I am healthy and vigorous and not sure that I want to be somewhere that maybe are a bit older than I am. Not sure. I was attracted to the original Kendal because of the quaker way of life.. Not sure when I read the lit they send if it is more than lipservice. I like communal, but dont think I would like a large community. I know there is a over 55 community in Gainesville, Fl. and that may be more what I want. By the way, Kendal is quite expensive.. and it is not a buy in permanent type thing.. That always makes me wary.. Spending that much money and not really permanently owning makes me nervous.
Tuesday Mornings.. also has books and sometimes I find some bargains.. Not always,, but then I love Thrift stores for books and check them out all the time.
Stephanie and assorted corgi

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« Reply #3142 on: November 30, 2010, 08:49:06 AM »
 A book with a CD? I hope your Mom enjoys it, FRYBABE. I take it for granted that any
dollar store must buy stock at very low prices, which suggests cheaply printed books or non-
sellers being dumped by the publisher.  Of course, a cheap printing doesn't affect the
quality of the writing. Classics are often put out in cheap editions so more people can
afford them.
  You inspire me, ROSEMARY. I love a bargain!

 I remember "Bel Canto", ANNIE. I enjoyed the book right up to the last, when it all
ended so tragically. A real 'downer'.

  Technically, MARYZ, I understand that the main meal of the day is 'dinner', whether
eaten midday or evening.  The secondary meal is lunch if eaten midday and supper in the
evening.  In practice, I don't think many people pay much attention to that but simply
call it whatever they please. :)
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« Reply #3143 on: November 30, 2010, 09:37:52 AM »
Babi - in this country what you call your meals is still a huge indicator of class (as we have discussed before).

When I was a child we had our evening meal as soon as my mother came in from work (I remember her starting to cook before she even took her coat off - though our kitchen was freezing!), and it would have been referred to as "tea".  People like Nigella Lawson (ie posh people trying to sound informal) would call it "supper" - as in inviting their friends round for "kitchen supper" in their artfully styled kitchens, complete with Aga and lots of Italian food labels.

We now call our evening meal "dinner" and tend to eat very late - a hangover from when my husband worked locally and always wanted to wait until the children were in bed.  Now he works away all week and the children often go to bed later than I do, but it's a habit I find hard to break.

My parents-in-law eat very early because father-in-law is diabetic and has to eat regularly.  They then have "supper" about 9pm, but this would be cheese and biscuits, not the kind of "supper" that really means posh dinner - I hope you are keeping up  ;D

I don't have any particularly fond memories of childhood meals - when I was very young there was a lot of mince, and later a lot of new convenience foods like instant mashed potato.  The food at my grandmother's house was truly awful.  I do, however, thank my mother for teaching me how to bake - we always had home baking and home made puddings (usually crumble or something like apple charlotte, as we had fruit trees), and I have as a result always baked for my own family.  now my daughters also make cakes - though sadly not my son, despite my best efforts.

As we saw in Barbara Pym, she was well aware of class distinctions in food.  if anyone reads "No Fond Return Of Love", there is a priceless chapter in which Dulcie (the middle class spinster) asks Miss Lord, her cleaner, what she had for her lunch (she eats out every day);

"I tried a new place for lunch today" she said

"Oh? What did you have?"  Miss Lord always told Dulcie exactly what she had eaten for lunch on the days when she came in the afternoon.

"Egg on Welsh and a Russian Cream" said Miss Lord, "Quite nice really."

"It sounds ..." Dulice hesitated for a word "delicious," she pronounced with rather more emphasis than she had intended.  "What exactly is Russian cream?"

"It's a kind of mousse with a sponge base and jelly on the top" said Miss Lord, "The jelly can be red, yellow or orange".

And in these few lines, BP says it all.

Rosemary


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« Reply #3144 on: November 30, 2010, 10:38:39 AM »
We girls didn't like spinach, which Mom occasionally served with chopped egg in it. I think that is the only spinach dish she must have known how to do. Anyway, Dad would tell us girls, when we stuck our nosed up, "Eat your spinach. It will grow hair on your chest." Well, you can imagine our reaction to that. Of course, Popeye was one of the cartoons we liked to watch. Now, I like to eat spinach salad, spinach quiche, and a spinach pie made made with layers of those thin filo sheets.

Babi, the books look just as good as the ones in a regular bookstore, and most often they are hardcover rather than paperback. None of them have marks indicating they are rejects or not up to par. I have only started reading one, so I can't yet tell if they are missing pages or have any other defects. I remember buying a book from Dover Pubs. years ago that was missing eight pages in the middle of the book.

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« Reply #3145 on: November 30, 2010, 12:03:28 PM »
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Woolworth's, which was really a 5&10

I recall hearing "Five and dime" store and we also had Grant's, Kresge's (sp?) which were the same sort of store...and, of course, Sears, JC Penney, and "Monkey Ward's"  (Montgomery Ward, but I always heard "Monkey Ward's).

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« Reply #3146 on: November 30, 2010, 12:54:40 PM »
In my rural central Pa home our noonish meal was always "dinner", especially on Sunday. Our 5:15 meal - my Dad was no longer farming after i was 2 yrs old and he got home from work around 5:00, so " supper" was shortly after he got home -5:15.  After he retired my Mother started calling the noon meal lunch. But my sister, who was married to a farmer continued to make "dinner" in the middle of the day and she was often cooking a complete meal twice a day: meat, potatoes, vegstables.  Of course, they had been up since at least 6:00 and had worked hard, physically, for 6  hours already.

We were a true meat and potatoes family, only breakfast didn't have potatoes, but had sausage or bacon, everyday, w/ eggs or scrapple or pancakes. Dinner and supper was beef or pork, sometimes fish, chicken was Sunday " dinner" always fried unless we were hsving company, then it might have been roasted. During hunting season we had rabbit, squirrel,
somtimes pheasant, turkey or  venison. Imagine, my parents both lived into their mid-80's eating all that fat!

The only "ethnic" food we had was speghetti, seldom, and German foods - pickled eggs, pickled beets, sauerkraut, pickled relish, etc. I didn't have pastrami, or bagels, or tacos until i came to "urban" NJ. I did have "subs" and pizza when i was inmy teens.

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« Reply #3147 on: November 30, 2010, 08:19:44 PM »
Mabel, be prepared to explain scrapple.

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« Reply #3148 on: November 30, 2010, 09:05:55 PM »
Fun topic!  Hub and I used to buy Crapple at the supermarket.  Can you guess what it is?  

In Australia, what you call meal breaks was probably also governed according to class, or ethnicity.  It is very rare to hear an Australian talk about class; we are much too egalitarian for that sort of thing :-)  So what do we call our meals?  Brekkie for breakfast is common.  Australians love shortening words and putting an -ie at the end. A barbie is only a doll if it has a capital B - otherwise it is a BBQ.  Lunch is normally used for the midday meal, or luncheon if we are being posh.  My father was English and an absolute stickler for manners at the table.  Eating off your knife or using your soup spoon wrongly were accepted as punishable crimes as far as Dad was concerned.  As were not wearing a "robe" over one's pyjamas, and not wearing slippers.  We always ate "dinner" in the evening, but many Australians call it tea.  Rare to hear supper.  When I started working at a young age, in the workplace we always used to have morning and afternoon tea.  When I moved North, to Brisbane, I was puzzled to hear people saying that they were going for "Smoko".  I had never heard this word before.  It turned out to be short for Smoking Time, or morning tea break.  I still don't use it.  Old habits die hard.

I am reading "Her Fearful Symmetry" by Audrey Niffenegger.  In paperback, it was reduced from $32.95 to $9.95.  Couldn't resist it.  Has anyone read it?
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Re: The Library
« Reply #3149 on: November 30, 2010, 10:12:29 PM »
We had dinnertime at noon, supper in the evening, although supper was usually the bigger meal - I think a leftover from my parents' farming days when noon was a big meal for them. 

And we had "the dime store" rather than the actual name of the store, such as Woolworths or Schultz's or so on.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3150 on: December 01, 2010, 06:28:32 AM »
Aha... my parents and grandparents ate quite differently. My Mother did not cook breakfast. It was every man for himorherself.. Lunch during the week was at school, in the summer and vacation, it would have been sandwiches and she would probably have made them in the morning and stuck them in the fridge, along with my Dads salad.. Dinner was at 5, as soon as Dad came over from the office. It was the only cooked meal and was meat and potatos. She hated fish, so we never had it, but we had liver once a week since it was her favorite. As you  may have guessed, my Mother hated to cook.. I learned to cook at an early age and was and I would guess still am a good cook and a really good bread and pastry maker. My grandmother on the other hand was German. She made oatmeal for Breakfast, eggs once a week and we had wonderful black bread for each meal. She did not like to bake and got it from the local german bakery. Their main meal was at lunch. Cooked, delicious with all sorts of foods, both German and American.She adored fish and we had it often. ( I love fish). Supper was at 5 or so.. Black bread and butter, tea and some sort of lovely dessert.. Yum..
I dont cook that much now , cooking for one is not much fun..But I try at least once a week to cook a slightly more elaborate meal for myself. I know I will have leftovers, but I still do it.
My own meals.. Breakfast was and is orange juice, coffee, cereal or yogurt or toast or bagel.. Once a week eggs and once a month maybe bacon. Lunch  was always light. The boys loved hot dogs and grilled cheese. dinner was late around 7 and was elaborate and filling. My husband adored dinner and hated lunch.
Stephanie and assorted corgi

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3151 on: December 01, 2010, 08:37:27 AM »
And here I thought 'tea' was a sort of formal afternoon tea and snacks, with dinner
to follow later. Actually, I begin to perceive that meals largely follow local, or
even personal, customs.  See, I'm still learning -
even though I have problems retaining).
  FRYBABE, chopped egg on spinach was the one thing that made it acceptable to my young
tastes.  The plain spinach was a burden,..esp. after it got cold. I now enjoy my spinach
first, before it gets cold and bitter.
  JEAN, as soon as I saw 'scrapple' I could have guessed you were from Pennsylvania even if
you hadn't said so.  I don't think I've ever had it, but I would like to try it.  It sounds like it's
made of things I like.
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Re: The Library
« Reply #3152 on: December 01, 2010, 08:39:12 AM »

The first of December!  What happened to November - I know it's one of the short months, but didn't this one just fly by?  
We're starting up a Holiday Memories Open House today, since it is December...  You are all invited in to share the memories, goodies, the music, the stories.  Quite informal.
We'll also focus on some of the old stories, short stories - those you can find on the web.  You can suggest your favorites for the coming weeks.  This week we will discuss Dylan Thomas' "A Child's Christmas in Wales."  A beautiful story - that puts you right into the spirit of the holidays.  There's a link in the heading to his reading of the story too.

Do come over - any time.  Dress is optional!  

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3153 on: December 01, 2010, 08:48:15 AM »
Bellemarie,  how interesting, and you do tours there? I'm really not into historic houses tho I seem to go thru an awful lot of them, love Biltmore tho. The  Dickens house in London was an eye opener, the man must have had the legs of a mountain goat, I have NEVER seen so many stairs in my life. And the Bulwer-Lytton's ancestral home, Knebworth, that was a stunner too.

The Sandburg house to me was somewhat depressing but I can't say why,  particularly, I've got no end of claustrophobia and apparently he was like me in arranging papers.  They kept it just as he left it so you could get the flavor of his life.

How interesting! I just went thru Lord  Carnarvon's Highclere Castle in England where, when he died, they found a small cache like finding their own treasure he had held back from the Tut Treasures which he helped excavate,  it's a gorgeous old place, too.

Rosemary, I hope Crapple is Cranberry and apple? Instead of what it sounds like?

I am inordinately fond of sticky toffee pudding and have found a place in Austin, Texas, whose proprietor, from  the UK, has won no ends of awards for same, so it's on the way here as we speak. In fact I always have mince pie at Christmas too, despite the fact that nobody but me will eat it.

Oh yes the 5 and dime, they were big in Scrapple Land where I also come from, (not sure you really want to eat that Babi, it may be an acquired taste hahaha), and my parents had friends who owned one in a little town in PA, loved that sweet wooden floored old place. Long gone of course, some of them had soda fountains (this one did not).

Monkey Ward! And the Christmas Catalog to pour over, those were the days!  I am really looking forward to reading your remembrances in our Holiday Open House, now open! I need a good recipe for the holidays and hope to pick one up there, I got the best squash recipe ever from our old folders on SN and still use it.

Babi

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3154 on: December 01, 2010, 09:04:48 AM »
 Okay, I decided to go investigate exactly what Scrapple is.  For the information of the others
like myself who are ignorant on the subject, here is the composition of scrapple.

  Locally called "everything but the oink" or made with "everything but the squeal",[3] scrapple is typically made of hog offal, such as the head, heart, liver, and other scraps, which are boiled with any bones attached (often the entire head), to make a broth. Once cooked, bones and fat are discarded, the meat is reserved, and (dry) cornmeal is boiled in the broth to make a mush. The meat, finely minced, is returned to the pot and seasonings, typically sage, thyme, savory, black pepper, and others, are added. [4][5] The mush is formed into loaves and allowed to cool thoroughly until set. The proportions and seasoning are very much a matter of the region and the cook's taste.[6]

  Okay, I object to the word "offal", but since the end result is only the meat and broth I can
probably live with that. I love cornmeal dishes, especially with seasonings like sage. I might
actually like this dish.  I understand it can also be sliced and fried?  Unfortunately, I'm in no
position to travel to central PA to find some.  :(
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Re: The Library
« Reply #3155 on: December 01, 2010, 10:58:04 AM »
Oh, Ginny - I had sticky toffee pudding in England for the first time last summer.  I thought I had died and gone to heaven!  Does this person in Austin do mail-order?  Please post the name and/or web site so I can order some.  We always have a mincemeat pie at Thnx.  John’s birthday is right after Thnx, and he’d rather have that than a cake.  Usually, it’s just the two of us who eat it, but who cares.  It’s the only pie I make any more.

I will pass on the scrapple, though.
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Re: The Library
« Reply #3156 on: December 01, 2010, 11:04:11 AM »
There is a debate about scrapple cooking: thin and crisply brown, or a little thicker and golden and soft inside.  We prefer the crisp, and also like thin crust pizza. Philadelphia is my city-in-law, and the relatives favor thicker scrapple with tons of ketchup.
Who is your favoirite food writer? Calvin Trillin?  MFK Fisher? Anthony Bourdain? Julia Child?  There sure are lots of them.

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3157 on: December 01, 2010, 11:55:54 AM »
MFK Fisher, by far;  but I adore Calvin Trillin also.  Did anyone besides me read his wonderful paean to his deceased wife:  "About Alice?"  If you haven't read that lovely little book, do!

Gosh, I had forgotten all about "it will grow hair on your chest," and certainly never expected to hear it again.  Funny how cultures change so much, and the later generations know NOTHING about ours;  they just think they do!

Ah, Scrapple!  You are talking some of my favorite food there!  And pulling my memory strings until they hurt.  Hey, I thought Pennsylvania was where they called scrapple "pawnhaus?"  Or something like?  Or is that just in the Pennsylvania Dutch part of Pennsylvania?  Anyhow, we in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia used to tell one another they did.

Scrapple.  Yes, it depends upon the cook.  Some turn out a poor, grey looking porridgey loaf that you do, indeed, have to fry to a fair-thee-well to make it at all palatable.

But Mrs. Funk of Stephens City made the BEST scrapple in this world!  Everyone in my family was of this opinion, and we could hardly wait for butchering time to come and go and soon we knew we could ride over there and buy some off her.  Oops: lapsing into Valley-speak here.  Well, the Funks lived just up the pike apiece;  they owned and ran our local dairy.  Mrs. Funk never gave out her secret, but one thing for sure, she used lots of the very best golden cornmeal.  And we cut her loaves into thick slices and fried them golden brown;  they were never grey.  They were served me on my plate sizzley hot and delicious beyond anything, with fried or scrambled eggs and toast.

Our tribe (called Virginians) were firmly of the conviction that our scrapple beat anyone else's from anywheres.   (more valley speak.)

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3158 on: December 01, 2010, 12:14:52 PM »
This is a WOW, wish I'd been there moment!  Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXh7JR9oKVE&feature=player_embedded

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3159 on: December 01, 2010, 12:49:50 PM »
You've all got scrapple right! Ours was homegrown. As i mentioned before, my oldest sister - 15 yrs older than i am - was a farmer. For at least the first 12 yrs of my life, "butcher day" was one of my favorite days of the yr. I got a day off school (this is my Central Pa speak, MaryPage, i just recently discovered there is a "documented" C Pa dialect that originated from Scot-Irish/German accents and phrasing.). I got to eat some really good food that was available only that day or week. All parts of the hog that was not going to be eaten as a whole part - chops, tenderloin, etc- including tongue, kidney, liver,- not brains, my family didn't eat any animal brains- were cooked in a large iron kettle in the yard. I remember saying nothing was as good as kidney or liver directly from that pot. Everything coming out of that huge kettle was delicious. We didn't eat chitlins thru the yr because we used the skins for making sausage. One of my jobs was turning the grinder handle that sent the ground meat into the skins which my mother or sister had boiled and scraped to clean. Some of those bits and
pieces from the kettle were combined w/ cornmeal and spices - i don't remember there being any sage, thyme or savory in our house, but i may have just not been paying attention - my father had a heavy hand of pepper, however, and he made the scrapple. When cooked for breakfast, it was sliced about 1/2 an inch thick, fried to a golden brown and eaten with maple
syrup, or molasses like pancakes.

My mother made mince pies - w/out the alcohol most of the time, afterall, she was a good Scot-irish Presbyterian, but once or twice she conceded to my Dad's request
- for Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Yes, we did interchange the words scrapple and "pawnhaus", i think we wld have spelled it "panhaus", but the "w" gives it the correct pronunciation.

Jean