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ginny

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« Reply #3520 on: January 01, 2011, 10:26:47 AM »

The Library



Our library cafe is open 24/7, the welcome mat is  always out.
Do come in from daily chores and spend some time with us.

We look forward to hearing from you, about you and the books you are enjoying (or not).


Let the book talk begin here!




ALF43

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« Reply #3521 on: January 01, 2011, 10:28:42 AM »
Ginny, I am going to hop on over to the Classics and check it out, thanks for the reminder.   
Books are the bees which carry the quickening pollen from one to another mind.  ~James Russell Lowell

ginny

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« Reply #3522 on: January 01, 2011, 10:29:38 AM »

Happy New Year!~

I forgot here they shoot off fireworks all night. :)

Marjifay, I am glad to see you back and hope you are  better, that's scary stuff, I have had a touch or two of it myself in the past,  hard to really do anything.

OH I love the conversation here! I did not know the Lodger had been made into a movie and a silent one at that, absolutely LOVE the old black and white movies, I'll look it up. I can't imagine what Hollywood would do to the book, it's peopled so strongly in my imagination.

What that woman did with only a small handful of characters is absolutely incredible. I don't think I've read anything like it:  as a character study, it's flawless, and speaks to every one of us...it's an amazing book. Short, about 250 pages 5x7 with big print, and only a few characters,  but really incredible. So different from modern books, makes you realize what reading is about, why one reads, in the first place.

MaryPage, I have Wait for Me, waiting, and Counting My Chickens (I do hope they aren't the same book with different titles) en route. Funny thing Wait for Me in the UK shows a cover photo of her holding two of her chickens with the flock at her feet, quite different from the US cover. :) I think I may need to visit her gardens, I see a book on them as well.


RosemaryKaye, I agree, your photo is stunning. I don't see the avatars but when yours was remarked on, I clicked on your name and  I can see it, you ARE gorgeous!

We've already got three new nominations in the Classics Book Club come on over, you all are most welcome, what an adventure this will be!! We're taking nominations now thru January 14, we'll vote the 15-22, make some decisions about how far to read for the first week,  and begin February 15, so you've got plenty of time. We need different opinions! The reviews are so exciting, what a fabulous way to begin the New Year! Everybody is more than welcome, come on in!

Still reading the Pearl Buck, would you all believe  that I just  found out quite recently what foot binding actually consisted of phycially? Have I been under a rock all these years? Foot binding  is not the searing stuff in the Buck book, by the way, which I spoke of,  much worse, but is mentioned a couple of times in passing. One woman had 3" feet. Unbelievable. The omission of that part of the Boxer thing makes me wonder, it really does, but this seems exhaustively researched.

I'd hate to be the judge between Spurling and Schiff  for any prize, because I am sure it will come down to that before long. Exile, Pearl Buck's  book really about her mother, lay in a drawer for 30 years before it was published. She was exorcising demons with it. Also The Time is Noon.

It is SO good to be reading again!!! When I look at my huge TBR stacks it's like looking at a full larder, so much waiting, riches as good as food, really. All different, depending on the mood. Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't.

What do you feel like reading today?

rosemarykaye

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« Reply #3523 on: January 01, 2011, 11:52:32 AM »
FlaJean - yes that's exactly what i love about the A McCall Smith Scotland Street books, they are slow and thoughtful, but to me they are also extremely funny.  He has a huge following via the Scotsman newspaper, in which the Scotland Street books were first published as single episodes.  I am wondering if the humour just doesn't translate very well?  I do, however, find the Philosopher's Club ones a tad irritating - though i still read them, because to me any A McCall Smith is better than none!  Have you read his one-off book, "La's Orchestra Saves The World"?  It is lovely - about a woman living in a remote Suffolk village in the war  (you could still be remote in Suffolk in those days), and the orchestra she starts there.

MaryZ - our libraries do have book sales, but they only sell their own withdrawn books.  A while ago I was fed up with them having virtually none of Barbara Pym's books available, so I bought several copies from a charity sale (in vg condition, I might add) and took them in to give to the head librarian.  I do not think they were very pleased; they put them into the "Reserve Collection" - which means you have to ask for the book you want to be excavated from the basement - so nobody will ever pick one up on spec; meanwhile the racks are full of twaddle (IM not very HO) like Sophie Kinsella and Katie fforde.  Also, it is quite nerve racking asking for something to be brought upstairs for you, as depending on the assistant that you get, the response can be anything from helpful to downright hostile.

We do, however, have a fantastic Christian Aid book sale, though unfortunately it's only every second year.  They welcome donations.  It is held in one of our local churches and goes on for a whole week.  I love it, and usually go in every day as they are constantly replenishing the tables.  On the last day they give you a black bin bag for £1 and you can fill it with as much of what's left as you are able - that's where I picked up the virtually brand new Barbara Pyms, and it's also where I tend to buy copies of things I've already got - I can't bear to think of them going in the bin (though i imagine they actually go to a charity shop or something).  We have a nationwide Christian Aid week every year, so there is also a huge book sale in Edinburgh and other cities - I am looking forward to attending the Edinburgh one next spring.

Ginny - thank you for your compliments, I think that must have been taken on a good day  :).  I am sitting here in my ancient jeans and ante-deluvial t-shirt, with my post-swimming hair scraped back - luckily I do not have a webcam.

R

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« Reply #3524 on: January 01, 2011, 12:02:05 PM »
salan, I loved the book racing in the rain, it is not what it pretends to be. I think it's one of my favorite books; give it a chance. I have four dogs, so when a work mate gave it to me as a gift I was delighted. Enjoy!

maryz

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« Reply #3525 on: January 01, 2011, 12:18:57 PM »
Rosemary, your Christian Aid sale sounds more like our Friends of the Library sale, even to the "bag-full" sale on the last day.  This is done in conjunction, though, with the library and we sell their de-aquisitioned books, too. 
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bellemere

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« Reply #3526 on: January 01, 2011, 12:42:13 PM »
Steph, try Alexander McCall
smith's  lady detective series, set in Botswana, but get the audio book and listen in your car (or at homeI  The actress reads all the characters so cleverly, she is named Yvette something, I think.  Love her gentle African accent, and the characters are unforgettable.
The Number One Ladies Detective Agency will get you started, Tears of the Giraffe is the second .  Try to follow the sequence, because most of the same charactiers appear again and again, with each book you get to know them better.  I feel as if I have a friend in "Precious Ramatswe"  the lady detective.

mabel1015j

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« Reply #3527 on: January 01, 2011, 02:18:57 PM »
In the "holiday" discussion they were talking abt making lists,or not, which reminded me of a book some you might enjoy........this was my comment......

Do you all know that there are people who are list makers and love to cross off their accomplishments and people on the other end of the spectrum who love to keep their options open and not be restricted by a list or agenda? Of course, many of us do a little of both or are list makers at work but hang loose at home. The interesting thing is that the two opposites often marry each other and often drive each other crazy. List makers like to control their lives and " options people" are afraid they will miss some opportunity if they are too rigid w/ their lists. Of course when they are dating the list makers love the fluid, free-wheelingness of the option lovers and the o-lovers love that the list makers have got all the details covered.........THEN when married................!?!  As i said,  they drive each other crazy
unless they recognize that there is a benefit to each side and they can complement each other.(my DH and i are the list-maker and the options lover - me, and it's worked well most of the time and the other times he drives the whole family nuts checking to see if we've taken
care of this and that, like we are 5 yr olds. We've learned to say to ourselves, "he cares abt me and wants to be sure i know what i'm doing"! Occasionally i want to scream "i'm 69yrs old,
i've done this 20 times before, leave me alone!" But i just smile and say " yes, i know." LOL


That's from a theory called Myers/Briggs Temperment Profile or the Keirsey Temperment Profile. I used it in management and employee relations training. It was a fun instrument to talk abt bcs they would always be saying "oh, that's just like my spouse and i!" The Keirseys, hus/wife team, have a great book book titled Please Understand Me which is available in the libraries and bookstores, which talks about four aspects of personality like that one.

The other four categories are: how do you like to interact w/people - do you gain energy from interacting w/ others, if so you are an extravert; does being w/others drain you of energy? Then you are an introvert; how do you take in information? Thru your senses - you like to experience events to learn from them, or do you use your intuition saying " i think ............will happen, if we do ............." The third category is how do you use that info/make decisions w/ the info,  are you a thinker- Objective, factual, like to use data? Or are you a "feeler" being
concerned abt how your decisions will effect the people, more subjective.

Knowing what preferences a person has in these four categories can make living and working with them easier, and knowing your own preferences helps you understand yourself and all preferences are O.K. and have benefits.

O.K. That's my lesson for the day.....hahaha, always the teacher/trainer, i just canned resist passing along information :-\ ;D........jean


MaryPage

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« Reply #3528 on: January 01, 2011, 02:22:10 PM »
I have read nearly every one of the Alexander McCall Smith Number One Ladies Detective Agency series;  still have some on audio CDs that I listen to while walking which I have not heard yet.  I agree totally:  it is the slow, polite and fascinating pace of Africa that appeals so to me.  I do not care for his other series.  To me, his sense of place brings Africa alive, but not so for any other place.

Ginny, rest assured, they are not the same books.  However, I do find a lot I have heard before in Wait For Me.  This is most likely because I have purchased and read, I truly believe, every biography and autobiography and work of literature ever out by or about a Mitford.  The cover of the book about Debo's chickens is the one you are thinking of.

I feel especially nostalgic about Wait For Me, because it is the last ever by a Mitford.  That is to say, by one of the original 6 Mitfords.  I do not think it cruel or unrealistic to say that at age 92 Debo is not likely to write another.

There is a photo of Debo with, I think, Diana and Pam standing some distance from the famous Cascade at Chatsworth.  I got the chills to think that David and I stood in that very spot in 1971!  I have never met, let alone even glimpsed, a Mitford;  but hey, I stood where they stood!

mabel1015j

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« Reply #3529 on: January 01, 2011, 02:28:02 PM »
My ninth grade English teacher, Miss High, wld roll over in her grave at the punctuation in that 4th paragraph, but i think you can figure out what i'm saying........that's my INTP (my profile-introvert/intuitive/thinker/perspective) speaking....... ;D ;D.........jean

kiwilady

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« Reply #3530 on: January 01, 2011, 04:32:51 PM »
Loved the Scotland Street books. Maybe because I was practically brought up by my Scottish granny. Also surrounded by my Scottish great grandmother and Uncles and Aunts. I was brought up in a distinctly Scottish culture. I still have cousins in Scotland my daughter stayed with them when she did her OE tripping around. My dad is English as were my ancestors on my grandfathers side. I remember my great grandmother who spoke like the Queen. It is really amazing that when I see travelogues of England or Scotland I feel an infinity with the land and I know I could happily settle there. It is almost a spiritual connection. They seem familiar.

Carolyn

ginny

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« Reply #3531 on: January 01, 2011, 04:47:39 PM »
Do you all realize (I just this minute did) today is 1/1/11? Seems like one should do something "oneish," huh?

rosemarykaye

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« Reply #3532 on: January 01, 2011, 04:55:43 PM »
For Oneself?  Or a Once In A Lifetime experience?  Or both?

I am going to bed before 10pm - sadly not an unusual experience for me, but am looking forward to curling up with my book and my hot water bottle (it's cold here!).

R

ALF43

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« Reply #3533 on: January 01, 2011, 04:56:58 PM »
Have you ever heard of "one-upping" someone, Ginny?
Books are the bees which carry the quickening pollen from one to another mind.  ~James Russell Lowell

JoanK

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« Reply #3534 on: January 01, 2011, 06:01:56 PM »
"Do you all know that there are people who are list makers and love to cross off their accomplishments."

I love to make lists. And the first thing on the list is always "make a list", so I get to cross something off right away ;D

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« Reply #3535 on: January 01, 2011, 06:13:26 PM »
Yes, Ginny, I did notice that it was 1/1/11 today but don't have any unique ideas of what to do about that. I like lists too, JoanK, but I don't seem to cross off much!

CallieOK

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« Reply #3536 on: January 01, 2011, 06:19:57 PM »
1.1.11 - and in ten days, we can move one of the dots, add a 1 and do it all over again.  :)

ginny

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« Reply #3537 on: January 01, 2011, 06:41:27 PM »
Andrea, one upping sounds vaguely like swan upping hahaaa.  There'll always be an  England: Swan Upping Wonderful colorful 4 minute You Tube documentary.

Oh Callie and how about 11/11/11? That would be a nice birthday.

Rich, what a sobering thought, I meant to say, I had the same thought in B&N last week, seeing the crowd around the Nook corner, What IF e books take over, what will happen to in print books and already it seems they are! I wonder what the future will be for libraries!

When I visited Louise Penny's website I signed up for her newsletter, determined for our group  to meet with her some day (she's in Canada), but her newsletter just came and I am blown away by it, it's like a letter from a good friend. If you like Louise Penny's books,  you really want to go to her website and sign up, the letter is quite the personal  experience.

Did you all see that Stephen King has quit his column (or his regular column) on Entertainment Magazine?




roshanarose

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« Reply #3538 on: January 01, 2011, 06:56:35 PM »
ALF43 and MaryPage - With your insights I will look deeper into "Girl 2".  Thank you.

Ginny - If ebooks take over I may be able to buy hard copy books more cheaply.  They are much too expensive for me to buy now.  That is why I bought my ereader.
How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?  - Plato

kiwilady

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« Reply #3539 on: January 01, 2011, 09:09:37 PM »
Having a giggle I am like the husband who drives everyone crazy. I have to have a routine. I am uncomfortable with surprises. My daughter has bred a child who takes after me. She drives her family crazy. She is only 10 but has to oversee the rest of the family. She does not like change at all and loves a routine and yes she is a list maker and her calendar is marked religiously with important dates and appointments. Big sister says "Stop being the domestic policeman!"

Carolyn

Steph

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« Reply #3540 on: January 02, 2011, 05:59:55 AM »
As a committed list maker, I just feel that this way I have some feelings about what I need to do nd what I am commited to doing, as far as clubs, etc. Actually both mdh and I used lists, but in different ways.. He loved to use teeny scraps of paper and scrawl on both sides.. Then when we went out, he would hand it to me , so that we could shop or see what he had on the list..I kept asking him to put it on a reasonable piece of paper, but never happened. Sometimes in the last year, I would come on one of the teeny pieces as I cleaned and put in order is desk, bureau, etc. I always gently put them back where I found them.
Stephanie and assorted corgi

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« Reply #3541 on: January 02, 2011, 08:39:08 AM »
  GUN, I'll make you my official 'go to' person re. Australia.

CAROLYN, your granddaughter is remarkable well-read for a 13 year old. And
interested in politics? I predict she will be a prominent person in New Zealand
when she grows up!

ROSEMARY, I'm sorry to say that I think your local library would benefit from a
change of head librarian! Libraries are supposed to be helpful, and cheerfully so.
The choice of books on the shelves is her(?) responsibility also; 'twaddle' does
not speak well for her judgment.

 JEAN, you are a saint! Most people I know..including myself...tend to glare at
people who treat us like 5-yr. olds.  >:(
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

ALF43

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« Reply #3542 on: January 02, 2011, 09:19:30 AM »
The Library of Little Bee is now open, do stop in and say 'hello."
Books are the bees which carry the quickening pollen from one to another mind.  ~James Russell Lowell

mabel1015j

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« Reply #3543 on: January 02, 2011, 10:51:25 AM »
Oh Babi, i did that for years- the glaring - but then i learned abt the Temperment profile theory and realized it had nothing to do w/ me, it was just his way of being comfortable in the situation and of being, what he thought of as, being helpful. I also realized i was a lot happier not being angry at him  so much of the time.......no sainthood here just acquired knowledge. :) .......jean

kiwilady

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« Reply #3544 on: January 02, 2011, 04:00:25 PM »
My siblings called me "Miss Goody Two Shoes". They were extremely irritated with me. They liked slap stick humour and practical jokes I liked satire. I could not see anything funny about slapstick. They still say "You have no sense of humour". I am the only child like my dad.
At high school I was a model pupil. The teachers got a shock when the rest came along. By the time they got to No 5 my baby sister one teacher said to her "Oh No - not another one!" None of you are like your sister. They flouted rules, were not bothered about homework on time but they all grew up to be Whizzes in retail. Two of them were store managers by the time they were 20.

In some ways does it pay to be a list maker? Maybe its best to be spontaneous I don't really know.

Carolyn

MaryPage

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« Reply #3545 on: January 02, 2011, 08:11:45 PM »
Am now (feel free to let loose with your comments as to my deranged mental condition, because I tend to agree wholeheartedly) carrying out the terms of a promise made myself eons ago.  First, I am accepting with a pocketful of doubt the premise that James Joyce's Ulysses is the most outstanding piece of literature of the 20th century.  But am one who does not want to be left behind.  Want to know the WHY of things. When a teenager, tried to read it, hated it, and gave up. Approximately 20 years later, give or take, tried again, with the same results.

Now am 81½+, and the bell is beginning to toll.  Got to conquer Ulysses or hate myself!

So went to The Great Courses at The Teaching Company (on line) and bought Joyce's Ulysses as taught by Professor James Heffernan of Dartmouth.  You get 24 lectures on 4 DVDs and a Course Guidebook.

Listened to the first lecture, studied the guidebook for it, and went to Bibliomania, where you can order up Ulysses for free and read it any old way you want.  They list it by chapters.  Joyce named his chapters.  So now am on chapter Five, have read it and studied the guidebook and am half way through listening to the lecture.  That is the way I am doing it now:  read the chapter on my computer, read the guidebook re that chapter, and listen to the lecture on that chapter.  Eureka!  Am beginning to understand the book, the author's plan and intentions, and what the yelling is all about.  So far, I still do not LIKE the book, but am beginning to appreciate the colossal attempt and the rather sizeable achievement.

kiwilady

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« Reply #3546 on: January 02, 2011, 08:15:26 PM »
Have to admit I am like Mary P. Could never get into Ulysses. I think I am dumb.

Carolyn

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« Reply #3547 on: January 02, 2011, 09:14:11 PM »
I've never read Ulysses.  Do I remember correctly that this is one of the books that's written without quotation marks?  MaryPage, you've really undertaken a chore.  For myself, I read for pleasure, and I wouldn't want to have to work that hard to read something, no matter what its reputation.  Carolyn, it certainly doesn't make us dumb, just wanting to put our efforts elsewhere.
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MaryPage

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« Reply #3548 on: January 02, 2011, 09:57:10 PM »
Haven't heard that about no quotation marks.  Will have to check it out immediately.

Ha!  Only checked out Chapter 5, but Lo!  No quotation marks!  Wonder when our lecturing professor is going to ask if we've noticed!

I agree that not being able to get into Ulysses does not mean you are dumb.  Have thought of myself as dense because I did not "get it," but never dumb.  We are each different and each differently gifted.  I have always been stupid about languages, mathematics, and a myriad of other things.  Adore music, but cannot sing a single note in key.

The challenge here has always been that the "experts" declare Ulysses to be the crown jewel of literature of the 20th century.  Why, I ask?  Have to find out.  Could not do it on my own, so the course.  I am not requiring myself to like it;  just understand what the fuss is all about.

CubFan

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« Reply #3549 on: January 02, 2011, 10:08:59 PM »
I feel the same way about Moby Dick but I'm not willing to give up the time anymore to find out what all the hoopla is about. I just don't care for it even if it is considered by some to be the greatest American novel. I do try to read a couple of masterpieces each year that I've missed over the years but neither Ulysses or Moby Dick will make my list.

Mary
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Frybabe

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« Reply #3550 on: January 02, 2011, 10:49:16 PM »
I am NOT sad to say that I never, ever had an inclination to read Ulysses and I doubt I ever will.

Cubfan,  I can't remember if I actually ever read Moby Dick either. I saw the old Gregory Peck movie a number of times though.

Janice

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« Reply #3551 on: January 02, 2011, 11:57:28 PM »
Nice conversation, I thought I might like to join in but I'm sorry to say my reading material is more along the lines of Room and Freedom...easy stuff.  But it was nice reading the posts anyway.

mabel1015j

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« Reply #3552 on: January 03, 2011, 12:53:02 AM »
Caroline - if you're comfortable making lists, go right ahead, if you want to be more spontaneous, do that to......it doesn't have to be either or. Most of us are somewhere in between with some of us making more lists than others. Both have benefits, it only becomes a disadvantage if we are at the most extreme ends of the spectrum. Or as MaryPage said very well, we all have different gifts to bring to each situation.

I never had any inclination to read Ulysses, but i have been curious why some people think it's such a great book. I'd like to listen to some folks having that discussion, but i don't want to read it. In fact, i often haven't liked "classics" that i've read so i've just determined that i should  read what i want and decide for myself whether it's a " good" book. I have to laugh - in agood way- when i read "reader's" reviews on all the book website. Almost always there are some people who swear it's the best book they've ever read and someone who threw it across the room bcs they hated it........i just read some about "Pillars of Fire" and a book i couldn't finish, i found it so depressing, "Kitchen Help", in both cases there were the lovers and the haters. .......that's what makes the world go round!

Hey! Janice! Don't go away! We all read easy stuff too........did you notice 7 out of 7 of us said we didn't like the idea of reading  Ulysses, and one out of seven said she was going to read it
to find out "why"?  ;) ;).......Jean

kiwilady

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« Reply #3553 on: January 03, 2011, 04:58:45 AM »
 I think my granddaughter aged 13 would like Ulysses more than me. Especially all the mythical beings encountered. She is really into stuff like that and knows more about Greek gods etc than I do. I should get her a copy and see what she makes of it. She of course will see it in a simplistic form but it will be interesting to see her opinions.

Carolyn

Steph

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« Reply #3554 on: January 03, 2011, 06:10:44 AM »
No,, simply do not get Joyce at all..I read Moby Dick, but really consider the man boring.. Hmm. I read mostly for pleasure now.. If I am doing genealogical research in old records, that takes enough of my energy and concentration. Spelling was not a requirement back in the good old days.. Whew..
Stephanie and assorted corgi

MaryPage

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« Reply #3555 on: January 03, 2011, 06:42:31 AM »
Carolyn, James Joyce was an Irishman and his book, which was published in Paris in 1922, is about 1 single day in Dublin, Ireland: June 16, 1904.  To this day, June 16th is known as "Bloomsday."  There are 3 main characters:  Leopold Bloom, his wife Molly, and Stephen Dedalus.  There are simply heaps and heaps of other characters, as well.  The book is over 1,000 pages long.

Each of Joyce's chapters is named for a character in Homer's Odyssey.  Joyce's plan was to imagine Homer's principals as reincarnated in his own day and time.  At the time it was published, it was condemned as obscene.

Imagine such a huge book about what goes on in one day in one place!  By the way, nothing about the book is at all obscene by today's standards!

Joyce changes writing style as he goes along.  You have to think hard to realize the sudden change from the thoughts going on in the character's head to what is really going on.

Molly Bloom's very, very long monologue (all in her head alone, in the middle of the night while she is in bed, something we are all familiar with) in the last chapter is one of the most famous (and without doubt the longest) passages in all literature.  This chapter is titled Penelope for Ulysses's wife.

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« Reply #3556 on: January 03, 2011, 09:11:00 AM »
Janice...Please come join us here.  As several others of us have said, I, too, gave up reading anything I don't get "into" and enjoy within the first 20-25 pages.  I spent many, many years of my life reading "literature" as a student or teacher that I didn't really enjoy.  I'm retired now and time to do what I enjoy, when I enjoy.  There are too many good authors and good books I enjoy to waste my time on stuff that I don't.

The beauty of reading is that each of us can find the books/authors that appeal to us and others can do the same.  I don't have to enjoy what someone else does, but here I can mention what I'm reading and enjoying and I can read about what others have found they enjoy.

We can share the reading experience, and the fact that that experience doesn't have to be with the same author/title/genre is an added bonus to me.

There are other discussions here that do center on a specific genre or on a specific title and you're more than invited to join those as well, if they interest you, of course.

CubFan

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3557 on: January 03, 2011, 09:46:25 AM »
Seldom do I agree with yearly "best book lists", or "everyone should be required to read lists", or "award winning books" whether they be for adults or children. I will always read through the lists and see if I agree or look for authors I like.  Once in a while I agree with a selection.

I have found that the best recommendations come from our senior learn posts. I've learned who reads and enjoys about the same books/authors I do and when they find a new title or writer they like I usually will pick up the same thing.

Janice, here no one is judgmental. Everyone reads what they want because they enjoy reading. We don't have to defend our choices. That's why there are some specific genres (mystery eta) and the library for general interests.

One of my concerns as a school librarian was when adults (parents/teachers) would try to channel the reading of children - concerned if they were reading too many sports/horses/babysitters club etc. To me what they were reading wasn't important. They were reading. I think we drive people away from reading when we make them think that what they are reading isn't of value. Reading should be enjoyable. Yes, expose them to good literature through the curriculum but leave the recreational reading alone.

Enough soap box.

Just started the new Tom Clancy Dead or Alive.  That will keep me occupied for some time. Will probably insert a couple of less intense titles along the way.

Mary
"No two persons ever read the same book" Edmund Wilson

bellemere

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3558 on: January 03, 2011, 09:59:53 AM »
During a graduate course on "The Irish Literary Renaissance, we read Joyce's "Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man" and I did a paper on Emma Clary"s s;symbolism .  That I got.  Later I thought I would try Ulysses on my own.  I soon got verytired of that little guy wandering around to Dublin pubs with a bar of lemon soap in his pocket. I gave up and have no re grets.
So many books, so little time.

Tomereader1

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Re: The Library
« Reply #3559 on: January 03, 2011, 11:26:52 AM »
Yes, Janice, don't go away.  Visit the Fiction discussion, The Mystery Corner, Movies & Books Into Movies.  And by all means, keep visiting here!  We promise not to make you read Ulysses by Joyce.
The reading of a fine book is an uninterrupted dialogue in which the book speaks and our soul replies.


André Maurois