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Steph

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Re: The Library
« Reply #9720 on: October 31, 2012, 06:06:43 AM »

The Library

Our library cafe is open 24/7, the welcome mat is always out.
Do come in from daily chores and spend some time with us.

We look forward to hearing from you, about you and the books you are enjoying (or not).


Let the book talk begin here!




I have never understood this passion for restricting hours and closing libraries.They are the life blood of small communities.. Politicians never ever restrict their own perks, but I would guess the number of readers is small among them.. Our library is closed on noon on both Friday and Saturday and all day Sunday. Just when people need them so use the web ,etc. But then our library was built as part of the community college and they tend to use the hours to correspond with classes.. Stupid, but quite true.
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« Reply #9721 on: October 31, 2012, 08:09:43 AM »
Hey KiwiLady. Great to see you back.

Your daughter is absolutely wonderful.

I agree, Steph. I have trouble understanding why, when people need them the most, library funding gets cut. The same thing goes for other services government sponsored programs get cut just when people need them the most. It seems they don't know how to save for the rainy days, preferring instead to spend, spend, spend everything and more when times are good. I suspect that rainy day funds become targets, when times are good, for politicians with favorite projects that are looking for funding.

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« Reply #9722 on: October 31, 2012, 08:45:41 AM »
 So good to hear from you again, KIWILADY. I know what a nuisance it can be to be without
internet connections. Sorry to hear housing prices are so high; it's a shame when people
are forced to move because they can't afford to stay. I sometimes think the Chinese are
actually the latest in rampant capitalism, despite the continued claim to communism.
  Hope you rhinitis clears quickly when the weather settles. Weather changes tend to get
my sinuses in a snit, too.
  Your daughter is a sweetheart. It would be a pleasure to know her.

 Tell'em about it, ROSEMARY! They should know how people feel about all that closing of
libraries.
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Re: The Library
« Reply #9723 on: October 31, 2012, 09:22:59 AM »
Hi Kiwi,

So glad to see you back in our neighborhood!  :) We missed you! :)
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Re: The Library
« Reply #9724 on: October 31, 2012, 10:18:11 AM »
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I have never understood this passionfor restricting hours and closing libraries. 
The answer, I think, is that of $$ and "they" [the "leaders" who make these boneheaded decisions]  think people who use libraries are not very vocal and so will not bother them if they make cuts there. 

Some examples from this town: When the new addition was open, one county supervisor, an older man, remarked for everyone to hear..."I've never been in here before."  He said it like it was something to be proud of.

 Another example: The librarian sends the monthly statistics to the County Supervisors (who supply a meager part of the funding) and the City Council members.  One Supervisor remarked those numbers simply couldn't be true. That many people could not be using the library and so the Librarian must be making them up. 

With this kind of ignorance still rampant out there...and mostly men in Supervisors and Council Members seats here, they'd much rather buy new dump trucks and other equipment than fund the Library.

 Some City Council people wanted the Library to start charging for a Library card.  As a Board member at the time, I was vehement in my protest against such a thing.  A Carnegie Library (which ours is) and that philosophy says libraries should be available to ALL the people without a charge.  The Board was 100% NO on such a proposal, thank heavens.

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« Reply #9725 on: October 31, 2012, 01:13:07 PM »
I think I have had a library card since I was 4 years old living in UK. I still go to the library when over there and one of the first things I did when coming US was get a library card.  Was just like carry on going to school. Now the libraries in my town here are great. Mine is in the Univ. city and 190 years old but millions spent adding on to it. The twin city next to me just built a 18 Mil. dollar one that is really modern.
I spent 2 hours yesterday with one lady who is getting her Mst. Degree in computer/Library Science and volunteers 2 days a week. She taught me so much about how to set up and do different things on my computer . I was doing it for years the wrong way.
I spend lot of time in the one part doing family research as most all of mine in UK. Could not have done most of it without the library info.
Would be a sad day if we ever lost the opportunity's that libraries give us. Thing is only place now where you see the young is on the computers and even then not anything on learning.   So sad.....

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« Reply #9726 on: October 31, 2012, 03:57:47 PM »
My father was an immigrant in a poor family (I doubt his parents could read) and he was only able to satisfy his tremendous love of learning by spending a lot of time in the public library. he went on to become a judge (and marry a librarian). I am sure there are many children like him in the current crop of immigrants: why would anyone with half a brain want to cut them off from that resource, given the sad state of our public schools?

Welvome back, Kiwilady! We've missed you.

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« Reply #9727 on: October 31, 2012, 05:33:35 PM »
I do have some wonderful news about my daughters Library. We have had a huge amalgamation here in Auckland to the detriment of spending in low socio economic areas. A new Library planned by our previous council had been put on the back burner in favour of building another library in a wealthy area. Now the library in the wealthy area is absolutely beautiful and huge! No need to replace it yet. My daughters library is tiny and has unhealthy working conditions. She has built up her Baby Rhythm and Rhyme sessions and Toddlers Story Times to such a level that the building cannot really contain the number of participants.

Last week it was announced that the New Library for my daughters area will go ahead and the Other one goes on the back burner. This is due to the work that the librarians have done and the figures they have supplied and the feedback from clients in the library. Nicky is beside herself with delight as I said its so much more than a library. Helping out new immigrants, kids with homework, comforting kids with home problems and giving them a place of safety after school if they need it. Some kids get little affection at home and Nicky is so loving the kids gravitate to her. She nearly gets bowled over by giant Pacific Island children hugging her so hard. She is called Nicolosi by the kids ( Samoan for Nicola) At her outreach in schools she is called Fi Nicola (Auntie Nicola) She runs a book club at one of the Primary schools at lunchtime. She really does have an amazing rapport with kids and her Storytimes are mini Theatre Performances.

 





Steph

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« Reply #9728 on: November 01, 2012, 06:06:13 AM »
What a wonderful ending to your story.. Just like Shakespeare.."Alls well that ends well"
The government hates rainy day funds.. The federal government was supposed to never touch the social security money.. But what they did was somehow arrange to loan this money to the general fund.. Now all they do is complain about the cost of the program, but have never paid back a cent into the money that was supposed to be set aside. Amazing the narrow minded approach to funding.
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Babi

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« Reply #9729 on: November 01, 2012, 08:52:59 AM »
Loved your library story, KIWI. At last, a council that does something where it's really
needed! Your pride in your daughter is fully justified.  I'm proud of her, and I don't
even know her.
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« Reply #9730 on: November 01, 2012, 09:34:04 AM »
Good to hear from you, Carolyn.  We've been proud of your Nicky for as long as we've know you.  She's a special young woman, who obviously has a great mom!
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« Reply #9731 on: November 01, 2012, 01:36:34 PM »
Carolyn, what a lovely story about your daughter. I know you are proud of her and you should be, think of the difference she's making in those children's lives!

Mary, how are you getting along?

We've heard from Lucy, those of you who went to NYC for the Soiree in 2010, will remember her. She's no longer at home at Rockaway, no power, no water, no phone,  no heat of course, no stores open, nothing. If you saw on the news that area was very hard hit.  She had some good  friends come get her last night  as she sat in the kitchen with a candle, thru the incredible mess of the streets, it's a real story but she's fine, said the noise of the wind and the water was horrifying.

I know some of us like Alexander McCall Smith and some don't and can't get into his books, but his books seem to me to be somewhat different. At any rate I began his Corduroy Mansions last night and I do have to say I really am enjoying it.  It's about an apartment house and the people who live in it. I really like it and the way he writes. It's a fun read. So far.


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« Reply #9732 on: November 01, 2012, 01:56:32 PM »
Glad you're enjoying McCall Smith, Ginny.  I think most of us up here prefer the Scotland St books, which are really similar in format to Corduroy Mansions, but obviously set in Edinburgh rather than London.

As someone who grew up in London but who now lives near Edinburgh, I feel that the Scotland St books are better because McCall Smith knows Edinburgh (and all the great and good of the city - he's an inveterate namedropper) so much better than he knows London.  If you're familiar with Edinburgh, all the little details are wonderful.  However, I do think he's getting more into his stride with the Corduroy Mansions books  - the second one was better than the first, IMO.

Rosemary

kiwilady

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« Reply #9733 on: November 01, 2012, 02:27:40 PM »
I like McCall because his characters are so developed. I have to read a book where the characters are explored in detail.  He is a good light read. I have to say Scotland Street series is my all time favourite.


Carolyn

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« Reply #9734 on: November 01, 2012, 04:26:24 PM »
CAROLYN, so lovely and such a relief to be hearing from you again.  And I agree your daughter is a STAR!

The answer is simple:  Women need to rule this world, and especially be in charge of the finances.  That way, there would be more money coming in and Libraries could be kept open.  We women have a MUCH better sense of what is important!

I am not being facetious;  I really believe every word I say.  Women do MOST of the work all over this world.  For instance, one of my sisters-in-law just got back from a long trip around Turkey.  She says it is still absolutely a fact that the women there do all of the work and the men still sit around drinking tea or coffee and clicking their worry beads.  Thus has it ever been!  But the men believe they are superior!

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« Reply #9735 on: November 01, 2012, 04:32:05 PM »
I'm doing well, Ginny.  Thanks for asking.  Not too much pain, taking my meds faithfully.  I've just started PT, so they should be increasing my pain level  :o , but also increasing the range of motion (as they're supposed to do).  I see the doc tomorrow and, I hope, get the staples out. 
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« Reply #9736 on: November 01, 2012, 06:32:58 PM »
Mary P my SIL is Turkish and he does nearly all the housework! They are both Accountants but he works in an Accountancy Practice while my daughter is 2nd in charge of Group Reporting for a Multinational and works horrendous hours. (plus overseas travel) My SIL has much more regular hours so he does just about everything. Their house is immaculately clean.

Carolyn

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« Reply #9737 on: November 02, 2012, 09:05:22 AM »
 Ah, Kiwi, every woman's dream!  A man who actually keeps things clean.  I didn't even win
the battle to get him to pick up his own dirty clothes.  His tolerance level was much higher
than mine.   :)

  I'm reading a light mystery, the latest of the Mrs. Jeffries series.  I'll be alternating that
one with a book called "The Seven Wonders, a Novel of the Ancient World".  The lead
character is a young man of eighteen, who is about to begin the journey of a lifetime. He
will visit the Seven Wonders of the World, and at each of them encounter a mystery.
The author is Stephen Saylor.  He has apparently written a number of novels set in the
Roman empire. Looks very promising.

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« Reply #9738 on: November 02, 2012, 10:41:37 AM »
Carolyn, it's good to see you back, and what a wonderful story about your daughter. She truly is a gem, and I'm happy for her library.

MaryZ, I'm glad you're doing well, and don't doubt that you will continue to do so.

Ginny, thanks for the update on Lucy.  I'm glad she's with friends who have water and power.

My East Coast family fared okay, didn't lose utilities.  Judy said her area in Brooklyn had little rain and her 1st floor condo didn't get flooded like it did during Irene.  But her office building in Manhattan has no water, no power. It is closed. She and her colleagues have their computers, but cannot log into the system and have no access to their files.  Her friend Liz is a hospice nurse at Bellevue, which was a real mess.  No power, buckets being carried upstairs to flush toilets.  They evacuated  patients, the national guard carrying them down several flights.

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« Reply #9739 on: November 02, 2012, 10:55:58 AM »
Wow, what an enticing title, Babi.  I might be looking for that one when I go
to the library next time.
Right now, I am reading "Crossing the Borders of Time"  A true story of war exile and love reclaimed.  By Leslie Maitland.  Very interesting, especially to some one who loves genealogy and history.
MaryZ,
I'm so glad to hear you are healing.  Shoulder pain can be really awful.  I should know as I have been having PT for mine after the NYC fall.  Its slowly but surely getting better.

Pedl'n,it sounds like Judy and Liz are at least dry and warm with they are home.  Is Liz going back and forth on her bike to Bellevue? or just staying at the hospital?
Seems like it will be months before things are back to something the city can handle.
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« Reply #9740 on: November 02, 2012, 10:58:30 AM »
Glad you're getting some PT, Annie.  Painful,but necessary.
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« Reply #9741 on: November 02, 2012, 11:39:49 AM »
MaryZ.. lots of PT.. hurts, but the rewards are great.
This morning in Panera, someone in front of me b ought a pumpkin spice bagel.. Sounded weird to me, but I am not a pumpkin fan.
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« Reply #9742 on: November 02, 2012, 12:52:53 PM »
Rosemary and Carolyn, thank you for talking about the Scotland Street series by McCall Smith, I saw them listed in the front of the book, didn't really know what they were, so  got  a Dalhousie (sp?)  instead, which I have heard of,  so  now I know what to get next time.  I appreciate being able to hear from our readers about what's good and what's not.

So far this book Corduroy Mansions,  is amazing, to me.  He's got this apartment house and all these people in it  and people they encounter, spin off after spin off:  like they used to say on TV here (tho O Henry said it first) "there are a million stories in the naked city."  And it seems that McCall Smith's ideas are infinite. You can almost see how an author's mind works: oh I could make a book about this, or this, or this incident or character. It's pretty amazing, and I hope that yellow flecks in an iris don't mean colon issues, I've always had them!

 It's a dangerous conceit, I think, this type of book,  would you say it has  a plot or not? So far the only plot I see is the apartment house itself and the people in it, but I'm not very far along.  It reminds me in a way of Our Town without the overarching drama. And it's a type of structure  which could get away from him, so many many characters,  and modern readers  really don't like a million characters (and I admit I find my mind wandering some, too), but I really like the underlying feel of the book and admire him for trying.  It's different. He's clever.

He's nice. That sounds  odd from somebody who liked Relic and  Reliquary but he's nice and sometimes that's nice to read, too. Whatever you're in the mood for, right now, it's "nice" I'm in the mood for.

 I look forward to the next in the series and his Scotland Street, series, too, tho I have not been to Edinburgh enough times to know what's real and what's not.

Babi, that sounds interesting, let us know if you like it or not. I've  heard mixed reviews on Saylor and would like to hear from people here as to how they like this book.

I'm also  listening, in the car, to The Twelve Labors of Hercules by Agatha Christie, read by Hugh Fraser,  who plays Hastings on the TV series with David Suchet.  I've read it and heard it before,  but it's really so enjoyable: it's a pleasure to listen to. Fraser, who does the reading,  can do any voice. He sounds like Hastings as he reads but he can play any of the parts,  and does Suchet (Poirot)  better than Suchet. You would swear you were watching it on TV. He can do young and old women, Cockney,  you name it: he is incredible and a pleasure to listen to.  Christie was so brilliant it's unreal.

I guess I'm into recreational enjoyable reading at the moment, and I get a LOT of good ideas here, thank you all!

MaryPage

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« Reply #9743 on: November 02, 2012, 06:01:01 PM »
Son Rob brought me a bunch of books by Saylor a few months back, but have not gotten to any as yet.  Have them to look forward to!

Wow, Carolyn!  What a son-in-law you have!

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« Reply #9744 on: November 02, 2012, 09:57:58 PM »
I loved the Virginia Swift mystery, Brown-eyed Girl. Swift is an excellent writer - for me - i like her style. It has humor, the criminality is not too gruesome and since she's a women's history professor, she gets good detail in any history she writes about. Her protagonist is a women's history professor in Wyoming, so this book has a sense of the west, some militia/skinhead types, but the story takes us back to 1930's France and some Nazi intrigue. There are many twists and turns, but almost all realistic.

I'm also reading a non-fiction titled Wild by Cheryl Strayed who tells her story of walking the Pacific Coast Trail. She's a good writer, but her reasoning is sometimes challenged. There are times i want to smack her and say "Think!" For instance, she did NO training to prepare to walk hundreds of miles. She talked to NO experts about how to go about it. She just came out of a trauma, saw a book about hiking the PCT and decided she was doing it. It's been on the NYT best seller list for months. I'm going to see if i can find an interview w/ her, perhaps on NPR.

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« Reply #9745 on: November 02, 2012, 10:41:17 PM »
It is an Oprah pick so if you can access her TV shows that is where you may find an interview...
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« Reply #9746 on: November 03, 2012, 06:19:37 AM »
I love Virginia Swift and have put the Jefferson book,she wrote under her real name on my Christmas list.
I am doing a catch up. I had not read Laurie Kings " The Language of Bees'. so am 3/4 through it now.. It has a sequel, so that is odd, but I will figure that out in the next few days.
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« Reply #9747 on: November 03, 2012, 11:43:14 AM »
Steph,That is a Mary Russell/Sherlock Holmes mystery. There is a whole series about them and I loved reading it.  They are just fun light reads. 
There is another light and humorous mystery series by Elizabeth Peters featuring Amelia Peabody, an archeologist.  Its set in Egypt in the 1800-1900's.  Have read all of them also.
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kiwilady

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« Reply #9748 on: November 03, 2012, 03:27:38 PM »
Another story about my daughters library. A young mother went into premature labour as she was driving nearby. She rushed into the library for help. Nicky and the others thought they were going to have to deliver the baby in the back seat of a car! Fortunately they got on the phone to her father in law and he rushed up with the car with baby seat in it ( she had a toddler with her and he drove her the few minutes to the hospital). Nicky is still waiting to hear what happened. The labour came on 6 weeks early. I said it showed how welcoming the library staff were that she looked to them for help first.

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« Reply #9749 on: November 03, 2012, 04:55:01 PM »
Does anyone have a way to contact Chazz who used to post with us back on SeniorNet - since he has had several blogs - on the latest he spoke last winter of Cancer treatment - there are no posts on his blog since late Spring and I wonder if anyone knows how to get in touch with him to let him know we think of him and send him our prayers and good thoughts - here is the latest blog site

http://chazzw.wordpress.com/
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« Reply #9750 on: November 04, 2012, 09:41:10 AM »
I love Laurie King period.. She writes the Mary Russell series, but does stand alones that are great. Not light or fun, but wonderful.. I also love Amelia.. But her writer is older and they are getting further and further apart..  The Bees is however a book that has no finish..You have to get the Hive to find out further.. That is not fair, but I will look for it.
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« Reply #9751 on: November 04, 2012, 10:35:28 AM »
 GINNY, I've barely started on the Saylor book,  but I've already learned a great deal that I never knew before about the
temple of Artemis in Ephesus.  How it came to be built where it was, it's construction, and all the sources of income that
made it the wealthiest in the world.  And beautiful!

   I am more and more interested in getting hold of Virginia Swift/Scharf.  Nothing but 'thumbs up' from everyone.
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Re: The Library
« Reply #9752 on: November 04, 2012, 11:50:09 AM »
BABI
What is the title of the Saylor book?  And is it a Steven Saylor book?
What kind of books does Virginia Swift/Scharf write?
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Re: The Library
« Reply #9753 on: November 04, 2012, 01:48:04 PM »
I am wondering if anyone has ever read Georg Ebers? There are a number of books of his listed on Project Gutenberg that look interesting. He wrote four or five novels set in ancient Egypt, some of them set during the Roman rule. I downloaded two (Arachne and Uarda: A Romance of Ancient Egypt) and one set in Nuremberg in the early 1400s, called Margery. Of course I had to download it. I don't spell my name that way, but my 2nd grade teacher insisted on spelling it that way.

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« Reply #9754 on: November 04, 2012, 02:53:01 PM »
Swift writes mysteries:

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/s/virginia-swift/

And here she is as Sharf, writing non-fiction:

http://www.virginiascharff.com/virginia.php

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Re: The Library
« Reply #9755 on: November 04, 2012, 06:28:18 PM »
Thanks, JoanK,
I have two in fiction and one of her non-fiction reserved at my library.  One of my favorite books has a similar title:  "The Women How Made The West" is by The Western Writers of America and most interesting to read.  I think that my granddaughter was married to the grandsons of one of the women written about in the book.  Her story should be in there as she has an incredible history having to do with the silver mines in maybe, Montana.  Recently widowed, she now lives alone in New Mexico.
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« Reply #9756 on: November 05, 2012, 05:59:38 AM »
I have read several nonfictionon women and the west.. Some on farmers, some on ladies who were not quite.. There is a wonderful book and I dont remember the name that is diaries and letters from Eastern women who moved west and how they lived. The isolation was incredible.. Theyhad such strength..
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« Reply #9757 on: November 05, 2012, 08:05:25 AM »
Steph, you may have already read these, since we've talked about them before, but if not, you might like Molly Gloss.  The Jump-off Creek, although fiction, is based on the life of her grandmother, and tells of a woman homesteading by herself in western Oregon.  The Hearts of Horses deals with a woman who gentles horses, also in Oregon, at the time of WWI.  Both are told in a straightforward, understated way.  Gloss also writes science fiction.

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« Reply #9758 on: November 05, 2012, 09:19:16 AM »
 ANNIE, the Stephen Saylor book is the one I mentioned earlier, "The Seven Wonders; a Novel
of the Ancient World".  JoanK has answered re. the Swift/Scharff books. I am currently
reading both the Saylor book and "The Hobbit".  Overwhelmed with riches!

 Have you read any of the Gloss sci/fi, PAT? I love good sci/fi, but am not familiar with
that author. I'd like to know more about her.
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Re: The Library
« Reply #9759 on: November 05, 2012, 12:09:31 PM »
Steph, there is a book called Women's Diaries of the Westward Journey which i read a long time ago.