Author Topic: The Library (Read 2322151 times)

Steph · « **Reply #10160 on:** December 12, 2012, 06:01:25 AM »

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Cruises ego or fame lets him be whoever he wants.. He was a horrible vampire and thank heaven people agreed with me and they have not done any more..
I dont read Jack Reacher, but I suspect if Jack is a physical kind of guy, he will do a good job. I dont think he can actually act much, but it doesnt seem to matter. I actually liked him in a very funny action type movie a few years ago.. He should go for funny.. Listen to me, the guy is rich beyond belief and I think he should do something different.

Frybabe · « **Reply #10161 on:** December 12, 2012, 07:50:10 AM »

I wasn't impressed by the trailers.

Seniors and Friends seems to be completely down. My bookmark and search engine both come up with an OOP! Can't find message.

Babi · « **Reply #10162 on:** December 12, 2012, 10:01:22 AM »

(giggle) MARYZ, that's priceless. Tell your John I love his wit.

mabel1015j · « **Reply #10163 on:** December 12, 2012, 11:35:29 AM »

Me too, Mary!

Cruise seems to be all into being a macho, violent hero lately, makes me wonder about his self confidence

maryz · « **Reply #10164 on:** December 12, 2012, 12:19:29 PM »

I don't read Reacher, but John tells me he's about 6" taller and at least 50 pounds heavier than Cruise. And the books always make an issue about Reacher's imposing size.

marjifay · « **Reply #10165 on:** December 12, 2012, 12:45:01 PM »

I looove Lee Child's Jack Reacher novels. Can't imagine Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher. Anyone who could jump up and down on Oprah's couch like an idiot in glee that he'd found a new girl friend, is not the Jack Reacher type! Now, Russell Crowe...I could see him in the role.

Marj

JeanneP · « **Reply #10166 on:** December 12, 2012, 01:21:41 PM »

Rosemary.

I looked all places on Web to try and fine the Audio of The End of a Affair with Colin Firth reading. Not to be had anymore. Came up saying had been removed from "Sale" on some and another says that Error was found on it and no longer available. Check at later date.

My library was not able to purchase a copy. Now have you seen it selling in the UK?

PatH · « **Reply #10167 on:** December 12, 2012, 01:55:30 PM »

Jean, it was asafoetida. There is an ancient joke about Senator Hickenlooper going into a drugstore to buy some and the clerk giving it to him for free rather than having to spell both Hickenlooper and asafoetida on the same sales slip. I can't spell it either, but I went to the kitchen and looked on my jar. It's used in Indian cooking; when you throw a tiny pinch in hot fat, the bad smell goes away and it adds something good to the taste.

Tomereader1 · « **Reply #10168 on:** December 12, 2012, 02:10:04 PM »

Anyone who has read even one of the Reacher books, will know from the outset that Cruise is NOT within miles of being or reminding us of Reacher. He is supposed to be well over 6ft. tall, and big, I feel like he's kind of "weathered", and imposing as heck. In comparison, Cruise is a weenie! I just hope they don't intend to do more of the Reacher books using Cruise. This one will probably flop so badly, they won't consider making another (our loss!).

Frybabe · « **Reply #10169 on:** December 12, 2012, 02:35:24 PM »

That is odd JeanneP. I wonder why. Give me a little bit and I'll see if I have any better luck.

Frybabe · « **Reply #10170 on:** December 12, 2012, 05:01:39 PM »

JeanneP, Colin Firth's reading of The End of an Affair was released earlier this year. I found two site, so far, with it. Amazon has a thing going with Audible. If you are a member of Audible, the price is way less expensive than if you buy the audio book through Amazon without membership. http://www.amazon.com/The-End-of-the-Affair/dp/B0081293SO

Here is LearnOutLoud's offering: http://www.learnoutloud.com/Audio-Books/Literature/European-Classics/The-End-of-the-Affair/14730 It appears that LearnOutLoud does all their audio books as MP3s. Which is nice because you can download them and listen to them on any MP3 player and burn them to a CD.

Apparently several places offered this audiobook free for a time but that has expired. Audible still offers it free if you join them. Anyway you look at if it going to cost now.

I wonder if Amazon bought Audible. I noticed that the instructions for joining at the Audible.com site say to sign in through your Amazon account. They probably still use a proprietary program in order to listen to them.

ginny · « **Reply #10171 on:** December 12, 2012, 05:44:58 PM »

No I don't know anything about the Jack Reacher books except I just read that Reacher is supposed to be 6'5" and Cruise on a good day is 5'7" and I think some of that is lifts. That said, he was really good in Rainman and I liked his last movie too, the one where he did all the stunts: Ghost Protocol, I thought he was good in that.

I just read about the difficulties in doing the sound on the movie The King's Speech where it was found when they filtered out the sound that Colin Firth had added all sorts of sounds which were wonderful and they had a problem putting them back in. He's a good actor.

I just saw Skyfall in IMAX for the second time. I absolutely love that movie. I thought Daniel Craig was about 57, turns out he's one year older than my oldest son!!! hahahaha

Love that movie!

JeanneP · « **Reply #10172 on:** December 12, 2012, 08:25:01 PM »

Frybabe.

Strange how I got sites that said no longer available. Now maybe these were sights that you didn't have to purchase it. I don't do that anymore. If they library can't get it then I will skip. Same with books now. Could be that the library who I believe get some of their material donated to them by companies for free. Maybe that has stopped also.

Frybabe · « **Reply #10173 on:** December 13, 2012, 08:07:53 AM »

I'm with you there JeanneP. I am trying to eliminate or minimize my book purchases. One, because I am trying to cut expenses to a minimum, and two, because I don't have the shelf space for what I already have. I've all but given up on finding a job, so second best is eliminate expenses where I can.

Babi · « **Reply #10174 on:** December 13, 2012, 09:35:16 AM »

I've read some of Lee Child's books, but I don't remember a Jack Reacher. I'll
have to look them up, since he seems to popular here.

It is a hard time to be looking for work, FRYBABE. If it cheers you at all, I envy
the fact that you are still physically able to work. Keep your eyes open. I have
frequently in my life found answers coming from the most unexpected direction.

mabel1015j · « **Reply #10175 on:** December 13, 2012, 11:24:05 AM »

Thanks Pat for that info. I knew someone here wld know. That all started in talking about the bedbugs in books. HAHAHA.

Jean

JeanneP · « **Reply #10176 on:** December 13, 2012, 01:22:41 PM »

I did bring the subject of Bed Bugs with the Head of the library the other day. They are well aware of the problem. I questioned the putting the books in the MW for a second or two. He says will not hurt them. However they have not had any problems as of now. Fact our town has only had on Hotel and a Senior apartment building with they did close for a week. Their problems come from the Tenants getting their mattresses and furniture etc from the Goodwill and places like that. So no longer can that be done in any Senior apartments in town or the Apartments that are provided by HUDD to the younger people.

JeanneP · « **Reply #10177 on:** December 13, 2012, 01:25:03 PM »

Quote from: JeanneP on December 13, 2012, 01:22:41 PM

I did bring the subject of Bed Bugs with the Head of the library the other day. They are well aware of the problem. I questioned the putting of the books in the MW for a second or two. He says will not hurt them. However they have not had any problems as of now. Fact our town has only had one Hotel and a Senior apartment building which they did close for a week. Their problems come from the Tenants getting their mattresses and furniture etc from the Goodwill and places like that. So no longer can that be done in any Senior apartments in town or the Apartments that are provided by HUDD to the younger people.

JeanneP · « **Reply #10178 on:** December 13, 2012, 01:26:22 PM »

Woops! I goofed up and Quoted my own posting.. Looks nice in blue.

PatH · « **Reply #10179 on:** December 13, 2012, 01:45:33 PM »

You're just trying to make sure we read it, Jeanne.

Steph · « **Reply #10180 on:** December 14, 2012, 05:55:08 AM »

We got our weather turn yesterday in Florida. Went to very very cool and windy and still very grey and spitting a bit of rain now and then.. We were promised sun shine, but as per usual, the weather peson was wrong..Boo.
I have so much room on my bookshelves now.. With my genealogical library in the safe hands of special collection at my library, wow.. for the first time in years, I can see what I have without doubling up on books in shelves.

Frybabe · « **Reply #10181 on:** December 14, 2012, 08:23:37 AM »

I was browsing through Isaac Disraeli's Curiosities of Literature, Volume 1 and found this entry.

Quote

CERVANTES.

M. Du Boulay accompanied the French ambassador to Spain, when Cervantes was yet living. He told Segrais that the ambassador one day complimented Cervantes on the great reputation he had acquired by his Don Quixote; and that Cervantes whispered in his ear, "Had it not been for the Inquisition, I should have made my book much more entertaining."

Cervantes, at the battle of Lepanto, was wounded, and enslaved. He has given his own history in Don Quixote, as indeed every great writer of fictitious narratives has usually done. Cervantes was known at the court of Spain, but he did not receive those favours which might have been expected; he was neglected. His first volume is the finest; and his design was to have finished there: but he could not resist the importunities of his friends, who engaged him to make a second, which has not the same force, although it has many splendid passages.

We have lost many good things of Cervantes, and other writers, through the tribunal of religion and dulness. One Aonius Palearius was sensible of this; and said, "that the Inquisition was a poniard aimed at the throat of literature." The image is striking, and the observation just; but this victim of genius was soon led to the stake!

I've never given much thought to how the Inquisition might have curtailed or changed how authors wrote. But then until recently, I never thought about Shakespeare and how he worded his plays to stay in the good graces of his sovereign either. We all know what happened to writers and writing during the Communist rule of the Soviet Union. Let us hope that we continue to enjoy the freedom of speech that we have enjoyed for so long. Which reminds me of the new item about the Feds putting audio surveillance on public buses. That is a red flag for sure, IMO.

PS: Isaac was Benjamin's father.

Babi · « **Reply #10182 on:** December 14, 2012, 09:27:10 AM »

A most interesting post, FRYBABE. I didn't know any of this background. It's odd how
we can learn things about two different subjects, yet never think of how they overlap
in time and what effect they may have had on one another. It seems to me that the
background of the times, socially and politically, in which an author wrote ought to
be part of any study of literature.

Frybabe · « **Reply #10183 on:** December 14, 2012, 09:55:24 AM »

The volumes are all short essays or paragraphs on a great number of subjects. I've downloaded (Project Guttenberg) all three volumes. I don't expect to read each entry, but will certainly browse about as the subject and whim strike me. Some of the contents are as follows:

Volume 1:
LIBRARIES.
THE BIBLIOMANIA.
RECOVERY OF MANUSCRIPTS.
IMPRISONMENT OF THE LEARNED.
DESTRUCTION OF BOOKS.
CICERO'S PUNS.
POETS, PHILOSOPHERS, AND ARTISTS, MADE BY ACCIDENT.
JAMES THE FIRST.
CARDINAL RICHELIEU.
ORIGIN OF NEWSPAPERS.
FEUDAL CUSTOMS.
SPANISH ETIQUETTE.
THE HISTORY OF GLOVES.
THE TURKISH SPY.

Volume2:
ANCIENT COOKERY, AND COOKS.
ANCIENT AND MODERN SATURNALIA.
OF ANAGRAMS AND ECHO VERSES.
THE ORIGIN OF DANTE'S INFERNO.
THE JEWS OF YORK.
THE HISTORY OF THE THEATRE DURING ITS SUPPRESSION.
FELTON, THE POLITICAL ASSASSIN.

Volume3:
THE PHILOSOPHY OF PROVERBS
CONFUSION OF WORDS
POLITICAL NICKNAMES
AN AUTHENTIC NARRATIVE OF THE LAST HOURS OF SIR WALTER RAWLEIGH
SECRET HISTORY OF CHARLES THE FIRST AND HIS FIRST PARLIAMENTS
SECRET HISTORY OF THE DEATH OF QUEEN ELIZABETH
LITERARY FORGERIES

JoanK · « **Reply #10184 on:** December 14, 2012, 05:16:33 PM »

That sounds fascinating, FRY.

Steph · « **Reply #10185 on:** December 15, 2012, 06:00:55 AM »

I would guess I had never considered the effect of the inquisition or any other war on literature, other than some authors dying young because of war..
I am having a hard time dealing with the massacre yesterday. How mad can you be to kill all those small children.. Killing himself is not good enough.. He should have been exposed to the horrible grief of the parents.. Why oh why are these young males killing others before themselves. If you hate the world, kill yourself, but dont take innocents with you.

JoanP · « **Reply #10186 on:** December 15, 2012, 08:24:50 AM »

Those guns were his mother's! Legally purchased and registered. Her son was known to be 'troubled' - and lived with her. None of this makes sense, does it?

Frybabe · « **Reply #10187 on:** December 15, 2012, 08:28:09 AM »

I haven't seen the latest updates yet. Absolutely unfathomable. My heart goes out to the survivors, families and community.

Babi · « **Reply #10188 on:** December 15, 2012, 08:31:48 AM »

What a fascinating list of topics, FRYBABE. These are the sorts of books you want
to own, and dip into when you want a quiet and thoughtful evening.

The latest news I've heard is a vague report that the killer had a 'personality disorder'.
I do hope they will explain that further; 'personality disorder' can mean most anything.
Sadly, I also read that the principal of that school had just made arrangements to upgrade the school security. A great big 'if only...'.

Frybabe · « **Reply #10189 on:** December 15, 2012, 08:35:57 AM »

I wonder if the mother had her weapons secured and he figured out how to bypass the locks/passwords or what have you, or if she just kept them in a drawer.

Babi · « **Reply #10190 on:** December 15, 2012, 08:52:40 AM »

The question that perturbs me is why a kindergarten teacher keeps guns in her house.
Especially when she has a 'troubled' son. And no one has yet mentioned the elephant
in the room...Why was he in such a rage as to kill his mother? We may never know the answer to that one.

PatH · « **Reply #10191 on:** December 15, 2012, 08:59:20 AM »

I'm having trouble focussing this morning--keep thinking of those poor parents and children.

PatH · « **Reply #10192 on:** December 15, 2012, 09:19:48 AM »

That's a really interesting list, Frybabe. I hope you will post more tidbits when you read more.

I was especially interested to read that remark of Cervantes. He got in a few digs anyway. In Don Quijote there is a trial of the books in Don Q's library. The village doctor and priest have decided that books are making the Don mad, and are pulling all the books off the shelves, throwing them in a pile to be burned or letting them survive, using criteria that are pretty arbitrary and chancy. It's funny but horrifying.

Frybabe · « **Reply #10193 on:** December 15, 2012, 09:26:00 AM »

http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:K_Download

The above is a link to instructions and app to be able to download Project Gutenberg books to the Kindle Fire. It is easy to install and it works. It appears that Amazon made it much more difficult for anyone to download ebooks other than through them than in previous Kindle versions. (insert little black cloud here) One negative on Amazon among all the positives.

marjifay · « **Reply #10194 on:** December 15, 2012, 10:37:20 AM »

Steph wrote: "I am having a hard time dealing with the massacre yesterday. How mad can you be to kill all those small children.. Killing himself is not good enough.. He should have been exposed to the horrible grief of the parents.. Why oh why are these young males killing others before themselves. If you hate the world, kill yourself, but dont take innocents with you."

It is hard to understand how someone could do what he did. But a mentally ill person cannot reason as you are able to do.

Marj

Tomereader1 · « **Reply #10195 on:** December 15, 2012, 10:51:21 AM »

I wonder why Steph would think being "exposed to the horrible grief of the parents" would even resonate with that idiot. He would NOT be touched by anyone's grief. Grief of parents, indeed, when he began by killing his own mother.

ANNIE · « **Reply #10196 on:** December 15, 2012, 11:01:21 AM »

I have been bowled over by this sad sad story. So far it would seem to me, that there is a piece of the puzzle missing. How did he live to 20 if he was all that mad?? Autism has been mentioned but that doesn't fit. Neither does Asberger's. Shouldn't his 24 yr old brother know if there were mental problems there? And the father who is also cooperating??

All I can think of are all those bodies laying in the classrooms and study hall Surely they have moved them by now. Poor families, having to identify their child in that room. Too horrible! ((((((((prayer&hugs for all the people involved in this!))))))))))))

JeanneP · « **Reply #10197 on:** December 15, 2012, 12:06:58 PM »

It does seem to have been a disfuntual family. The elder brother did not live that far away but had not seen his mother or brother for 2 years.
I am wondering why he would pick a school where his mother worked as a teacher in Kindo and 1st grade.

We all need to have something to cheer us up at the moment. Hard to not watch the news. Horrible. My Granddaughter lives just 20 min. drive from the school and town. She called us right away as she was heading to pick up her 5 year old at his school. It is a small private one. We sometimes ask why they have him there but now we feel better for it.

BarbStAubrey · « **Reply #10198 on:** December 15, 2012, 12:56:35 PM »

Somehow without even focusing on the children tears flowed this time and then when I heard the age of the children and the way they were murdered it was like the breathe left my body and the rest of the day passed as if I was in suspended animation -

Today I realize there is nothing I can do - I can pray and grieve but how does grieving affect the life I was given - my only solace is to realize that this is a painful event with lots of folks in one part of the country experiencing numbing grief which is hard to see but then how many families individually experience similar numbing grief because their child was only one or two killed in an auto accident - how many children a year between the ages of 5 and 9 are killed out of the minds of the TV viewing public. The only way I can bring the day here forward is to remember it is only because of technology we know this happened and we have a responsibility to our own family. I am thinking keeping the TV on and not preparing for the coming home of my Grandson from College or not preparing for the holidays is not what Mrs. Kennedy did after JFK was killed - she went on with life for the sake of her family.

As to the guns - everyone wants some action which is typical when you feel bad - I see both sides of the gun issue - I see how law enforcement justifies their assault weapons and how many a rancher is out at 4 in the morning in a wind storm or blizzard gathering or feeding his cattle with no law within 60 miles and in fact no one within many miles and so a comprehensive gun law is difficult - then I look at these tragedies and several would have happened because the guns involved were not assault weapons - in common they are all troubled humans.

We will never fully know the rage that must have been in this boys heart - the family was split so there is more that we may never know.

mabel1015j · « **Reply #10199 on:** December 15, 2012, 02:31:19 PM »

We can demand better mental health funding and the banning of semi-automatic and automatic weapons from sell to "civilians" and TODAY you can send congress a request to renew the Violence Against Women Act which the extreme Repubs are holding up bcs it gives Tribal judges decisons over non-tribal members who have attacked women on reservations. I emphasize "today" bcs congress is about to go on recess.

Here is an email i sent out this week:

[Insanity! Congress can't renew the VAWA act because the extreme Repubs are saying it's giving too much power to groups like Native American judges, when NA women had huge instances of violence against them and for other groups like theLBGT community. Just put your name on the petition. It has to happen in the next 48 hrs.

http://thinkprogress.org/take-action/vawa-2-e/?mobile=wt/color]

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