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JoanK

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« Reply #3120 on: May 06, 2012, 01:53:00 PM »
         
This is the place to talk about the works of fiction you are reading, whether they are new or old, and share your own opinions and reviews with interested readers.

Every week the new bestseller lists come out brimming with enticing looking books and rave reviews. How to choose?


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I looked up "The Fair Miss Fortune" on Amazon. they have one paperback for $323.00.???!!!??? Just a TAD over my budget.

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« Reply #3121 on: May 06, 2012, 04:56:47 PM »
Good heavens Joan!  Has your library got it?  Amazon UK has it for £12 with free postage, but even that seems excessive to me - it's a very short book.  On the Greyladies site (the one I think I posted a link to) they will mail it anywhere in the world for £15.50.  I don't know what that is in US dollars but I somehow doubt it's 323!

If I come across a second hand copy I'll buy it for you!  The one I read was a library copy, but Christian Aid has its huge book sale in Edinburgh next week, so I'll no doubt be trawling that at some point, and I'll keep my eyes open.  Stevenson was born in Edinburgh, by the way. She started writing stories when very young, but had to keep them a secret because her (wealthy) parents disapproved.  They also wouldn't let her go to school or university - her father 'didn't want an educated woman in the family'.  When I went to the Persephone Books tea held in her honour, her granddaughter remembered her as a rather formidable lady, who used to lie on a chaise longue, smoking cigarettes in a long holder, whilst writing her books.  Here is another site about her - she has a devoted following:

http://destevenson.org/

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« Reply #3122 on: May 06, 2012, 07:15:53 PM »
Don't buy it for me. I can get it on the kindle for less than it would cost to buy and post.

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« Reply #3123 on: May 07, 2012, 01:07:37 AM »
My nickname as a youngster was "The Duchess".  I loathed it!  I didn't realise until many years later it must have been a description of my demeanour.  Oooopppssss!

I wonder if my friends from the US can clear something up for me.  My ex FIL had a PhD he acquired at UCLA.  He was always called Dr. in Australia, but he told me that if you have at least a Masters Degree you were entitled to the title Professor in the US.  Is this true?  My daughter doesn't include her Dr. title in any of her communications.  Australian are a bit (more than a bit) wary of being labelled a "tall poppy" if they add academic initials to their names.  Maybe they should call me Master ..... :o
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« Reply #3124 on: May 07, 2012, 02:05:19 AM »
My husband never uses 'Dr' (except in technical publications, etc) because he doesn't want anyone asking him to deliver a baby on a plane, or anything like that.  He's an engineering PhD and v squeamish.

I don't know about the professor thing in the US, but it definitely doesn't apply in the UK.  PhD = doctor, and that's it.  Professor is a title handed out by the employing university.

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« Reply #3125 on: May 07, 2012, 06:22:16 AM »
Bilgewater is an out of print.. I just finished  The Story of Beautiful Girl by Rachel Simon. She also wrote, Riding the Bus with my Sister. The Beautiful Girl one is fiction and the Bus one is a memoir, but both are excellent. They are based on people with various limits in their lives.. The Beautiful girl is about th e old homes for the retareded, etc. Specifically in this case, Pennsylvania. I remember the scandals. Our home for the Retarded, etc in Delawre was a dreary awful place..My church used to carol there at Christmas.. Not a happy way to live.
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« Reply #3126 on: May 07, 2012, 08:29:31 AM »
ROSEMARY, I love the quotes. I'm going to see if I can find "The Fair Miss Fortune".
 Do let me know about the Grey Ladies bookstore. Delightful choice of name.

  I am under the impression that a Master's Degree here is required for a professorship. It's
not clear to me whether the degree confers the title. I'm sure one of the other posters here
will be able to clarify that.
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« Reply #3127 on: May 07, 2012, 10:08:11 AM »
roshanarose....In my experience, "full professor" is a rank given by a university or college and includes tenure, etc.  It is up the academic ladder, but below, say, a Dean.  There are entry and other positions below that, and my guess is that the lowest would require a masters' degree as a minimum.  So, the various levels of academic rank would require a masters degree, but lots of people have masters degrees who are not professors or assistant/associate/adjunct professors.

More information here.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor#Canada_and_the_United_States

[When I was a staff reference librarian at the Univ. of Iowa, much laughing/ rolling of eyes was done by senior faculty when a new faculty member, who'd just gotten his Ph.D joined the staff...and was listed in the city phone book as Dr. First Name, Last name.  People were laughing at him right and left since the President of the University, with many distinguished degrees to his name, was listed in the same phone book as Willard Boyd.   Another one, with the ink still wet on his Ph.D. always signed his name with a flourish...Dr. James J. [Last name], Ph.D.  We'd almost laugh in his face when he handed us his card. PLEASE!! We had incredible faculty members known for their fantastic research, and this "young pup" thought he was so high and mighty.  The higher up the academic ladder and better known in their field the faculty were were, the more humble they were, it seemed.]

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« Reply #3128 on: May 07, 2012, 10:22:47 AM »
I am pretty certain of my memory, but then again, these days!  I think her name was Dorothy Emily Stevenson and she was a descendant of our beloved Robert Louis Stevenson of A Child's Garden of Verses and other greats.

She wrote tons of books, and I read and enjoyed them all.  Light romances are not usually my thing, but she had a way with her.  Yes, I have read every single one save four I am saving for my very old age delightment.  They are each in LARGE PRINT and by name are:  Rochester's Wife, Rosabelle Shaw, The Two Mrs. Abbotts, and Five Windows.  Written in the thirties and forties and bound in this large print in the early eighties.

Roshannarose, we must have something alike about us.  My family now compare me to Maggie Smith's dowager countess in Downton Abbey.

About D.E. Stevenson:  if you love her books, you will love Angela Thirkill, as well.  Or is it Thirkil?

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« Reply #3129 on: May 07, 2012, 12:27:59 PM »
My Grandson had a Master Deg. for years. Never was a title that went with it even though he was A  Asst. Dean.  Two years ago he got his PHD. Now he could use the Dr. behind his name if he wished.  Now is Dean but I never see him put DR. behind his name.
Being young still, maybe as he gets older  he will use it.  We are just proud that he has gotten so far so young.
Living in a town where the St. University is.  I see many who try to use the DR. even though their position is not doing anything that warrants Using the DR. behind.

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« Reply #3130 on: May 07, 2012, 12:32:25 PM »
Rosemary.  I like the sound of the book "The Fair Miss Fortune". Doubt my library will have it.
Wonder if the one I mentioned as my Favourite from being a young girl. "The Girl Crusoe"Could be found at the Gray Ladies Bookstore?  It goes back to the 1930

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« Reply #3131 on: May 07, 2012, 07:19:02 PM »
Just finished The Borgia Bride by Jeanne Kalogridis. Apparently she writes good, well-researched historical fiction/romance books. The protagonist is the wife of the brother of Cesare Borgia, maybe the son of Pope Alexander Borgia. It was very interesting, giving as background the story of the Vatican/French/Spanish battles at the turn of the sixteenth century. I've also been watching "The Borgias" on Showtime and there are matching events, so i guess she is accurate in much of her story. At the end of the book, she lists "real" events in the book and gives a prologue of what happened in history to each character - who is still living - the Borgias killed off a lot of people.

I'm still not clear how "romance" books get designated as such. Yes, there was sex, including incest, which may have been factual, but not much "romance".

Again, it makes me so glad that i'm living in the 20/21st century, in a country that believes in the rule of law for everyone and not ruled by tyrannical dictators. Whew! Thse people were scary!

It was a good read, I will look for more of her books.

Jean



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« Reply #3132 on: May 07, 2012, 07:39:54 PM »
When you realize this was the mess that Luther walked in on when he visited Rome it was easy to see why he ended up with his 95 theses.
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« Reply #3133 on: May 08, 2012, 02:57:30 AM »
Just started 'The Darling Dahlias & the Cucumber Tree'.  It's my first Susan Wittig Albert.  Trying to get all the characters sorted out just now, but already enjoying the food descriptions!

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« Reply #3134 on: May 08, 2012, 04:23:48 AM »
Jeanne, I downloaded The Girl Crusoe on my Kindle.  I haven't started it yet.  I am currently reading The Hunger Games.  My daughter and my 11 year old grandson kept encouraging me to read it.  I hesitated because I did not like the premise and don't usually care for this type book.  Well, they were right and I was wrong.  I picked it up from my library yesterday and am already half way through.  It is very well written and has me eagerly turning the pages.  Have any of you read it?  Hope it holds up to the end!  If so, I will definitely be reading the second one.  I also picked up the latest Miss Julia book (Miss Julia to the Rescue) for a bit of entertaining "fluff".
I recently finished The Cat's Table and found it rather tedious.
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« Reply #3135 on: May 08, 2012, 05:51:09 AM »
I have not read any of the Darling Dahlia books, but did not like the Beatrice Potter ones.. But love her herb books.. Albert and her husband also write a series together, but I am not overfond of that one either. I finally broke down and am readingthe last in paperback of Diane Mott Davidsons.. This one has very little of her obnoxious son and instead has a little old lady in a wheelchair who gives new meaning to horrible houseguest. She must love obnoxious in her books.
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« Reply #3136 on: May 08, 2012, 09:45:55 AM »
I really liked the Darling Dalias.  It is set in the 30s and brings me pleasant memories of times when I was a child (born in 1936) in the early 40s.  I enjoyed the Beatrice Potter books but found them slow going at times.  Albert completed that series with the marriage of Beatrice.  However, my favorite of Albert's books is the China Bayles series.  Read her latest Cat's Claw which is more about her friend the police chief but it is a good read.  Three different series and so different.  She is such a talented person.

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« Reply #3137 on: May 08, 2012, 10:28:08 AM »
Steph...I think  DM Davidson has worn out Goldie.  IMHO Davidson kept the JRK in the picture far too long and let Arch become so obnoxious, he was as much a JRK as his father.  Is this last one worth reading?


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« Reply #3138 on: May 08, 2012, 03:16:29 PM »
On Dr. and Professor: in the States,you aren't a professor unless you hold that position at a university. but if you teach a college level course, the students will often call you professor.

With a PhD, you are entitled to be called Doctor. The fashion has changed: many years ago, everyone who had a PhD put that Doctor after his name. Then a kind of reverse snobbism took hold, and now people avoid the title.

Alexander McCall Smith wrote a hilarious series ("Portuguese Irregular Verbs") about a German professor who had two PhDs and so was Doctor Doctor. The head of his department was, of course, "Doctor Doctor Doctor."

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« Reply #3139 on: May 08, 2012, 03:27:20 PM »
And that is why I quit reading Davidson, Jane, even though she had at one time been one of my "look for" authors.  I became so annoyed with the JRK and Son of JRK that I just gave up. 

Joan K, don't you love McCall-Smith's subtle, and wicked, sense of humor?
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« Reply #3140 on: May 08, 2012, 04:27:07 PM »
Rosemary.

I am just about to get started on Darling Dahlias and the Naked Ladies. Not read any of her book before.
Ended reading a Quick Read. last night.  "To have and to Hold" Jane Green.  O.K but nothing to recommend as Great.

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« Reply #3141 on: May 08, 2012, 04:31:25 PM »
Salan.

I can't believe that you found the book "The Girl Crusoe" here in the US. I have tried for 20 years and never found it. No library could ever find it.

Let me know what yours is about. Maybe not the one written in 1930s

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« Reply #3142 on: May 08, 2012, 06:10:01 PM »
What a Surprise. Was just checking on Susan Wittig Albert who wrote The Darling Dahlias.
She grew up in Henning. just 7 miles from the house we lived in in Danville, Ill. She went to Bismark Henning High School. strange that I never heard of her prior to just finding her books.  Would have been Famous in Henning as it only had 600 people.  Going to have to read more about her later.


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« Reply #3143 on: May 08, 2012, 10:26:38 PM »
I've liked all the China Bayles series and DM Davidson's books, but i guess i haven't gotten to the obnoxious son books yet.  :)

Jean

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« Reply #3144 on: May 09, 2012, 06:02:20 AM »
Actualy this book of DMD's is pretty complicated. I think it is two books in one, there is way too much conflicting plot..So I think at least two villains.. The son is a minor character this time, butGoldie still obsesses about him. How hard that must be for a child. She is making Goldie into obnoxious though..Too much I will do that , even though her husband is a police chief and tells her not to.. A shame.. actually. Her cooking is still over the top and she makes her character live on double shots.. caffeine and coffee.. Ugh..
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« Reply #3145 on: May 09, 2012, 09:13:12 AM »
 Okay, nice switch. Books for me to avoid instead of adding to my lists.  ;D
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« Reply #3146 on: May 09, 2012, 11:59:14 AM »
I HATED The girl with the Dragon Tatoo.  It fits my definition of pornography, the graphic descriptions of torture and murder of women.  Didn't go to the film either
mY fiction list so far this year:
Classics readers might enjoy his.
The Swerve , Henry Greenblatt rediscovery of classic poem by Lucretius
The Heart of the Matter, Graham Greene - part of my revisiting Greene a lifelong favorite
The Paris Wife, Paula McLain --Hemingway in 1920's Paris
The Marriae Plot, Jeffrey Eugenides  young ivy league grads in the real world
The Cat's Table, Michael Ondaatje  Ceylonese keds adventures on an ocean liner
The Girl in Hyacinth blue
Swamplandia Karen Fuller the almost Pulitzer Prize winner
If anybody would like my take on any , just let me know.
Nest on my list, a friend's pick, Time Will Tell by Jeffrey Archer.  Any commenttEAD SOME Gread some great nonfiction too.


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« Reply #3147 on: May 09, 2012, 01:00:57 PM »
Has anyone here read Hilary Mantel's WOLF HALL and/or its sequel just out, BRING UP THE BODIES?

I have just finished reading the book review in the May 14th NEWSWEEK, and am curious.  I love history, but am not fond of historical fiction, as so very much is distorted.

So I am not anxious to read these, but would love to hear from any and all who have read them.  Please give some detail as to your experience in reading these or any other of Mantel's books.  Thanks!

I loved, loved, loved all three of Stieg Larsson's books about Lisbeth Salandar.  Saw and purchased all 3 Swedish movies and have seen the first American one.

I own The Borgia Bride by Jeanne Kalogridis in trade paperback, but have not yet read it.

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« Reply #3148 on: May 09, 2012, 02:14:02 PM »
My parents-in-law have both read Wolf Hall and were unimpressed, but unfortunately I can't remember why!  They gave it to me to read but I haven't got round to it yet.  It does seem to be one of those books that all the reviewers rave about and all the glitterati pretend to be taking on holiday with them (you know - all those articles where they ask MPs and people like that what they'll be reading on the beach.  None of them ever says Agatha Christie or Mills & Boon.)

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« Reply #3149 on: May 09, 2012, 04:33:11 PM »
bellemere, what is your "take" on "The Cat's Table"?  I am supposed to lead the discussion at my f2f book club in July.  If it's not worth it, I may change the selection to something else?
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« Reply #3150 on: May 10, 2012, 06:36:24 AM »
Ye  s, I always figure with the books I am reading category for celebreties, that they have a good mystery hiding away behind the big important book..
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« Reply #3151 on: May 10, 2012, 10:36:25 AM »
Tomereader,  I read The Cat's Table and did not care for it.  I read it with the thought in mind to recommend it to my ftf reading group and had read a lot of good reviews about it.  I found it rather tedious and decided not to recommend it.  Maybe others will feel differently.....

I finished Hunger Games.  I found it spell binding, couldn't quit reading it.  I have put my name on the waiting list (4 people are ahead of me) for the 2nd.  I didn't expect to like it; but I really did.  I did expect to like The Cat's Table, but didn't.  Go figure.  I will definitely recommend Hunger Games.
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« Reply #3152 on: May 11, 2012, 06:06:58 AM »
 I can see where I am going to break down and read Hunger Games, my granddaughter has been after me for a month at least.. We generally like what the other reads..
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« Reply #3153 on: May 11, 2012, 07:36:35 AM »
 Valerie went to see the movie, "Hunger Games" the other day.  I need to ask her if she thinks
I would like the book.  She has a pretty good idea of what I like and what I don't.
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« Reply #3154 on: May 11, 2012, 11:01:11 AM »
I have read all 3 books and find them extremely well thought out.  Collins is trying to teach today's teenagers (mostly girls will read these books) of the dire results of continuous war and dictatorship.  In other words, the lessons of History that most members of each generation do not pick up because they find History boring.

The books are written for "young adults" and are not deep in the least tiny bit.  Very easy, quick reading.  She is a master writer.

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« Reply #3155 on: May 11, 2012, 04:41:56 PM »
Steph, I think you would like the Hunger Games.  I am on the waiting list for the 2nd and my daughter tells me to go ahead and reserve the 3rd.  She read it because her 11 yr old son was reading it for his class and she wanted to see what it was about.  At the time, I thought my grandson was a little too young for it; but after reading it, I can see what held his interest.  Unfortunately, he does not like to read and she and I encourage any appropriate book that will hold his interest.  My older sister (76), myself (69), my daughter (41) and my grandson (11) all enjoyed it.  You can't say that about many books these days.
Sally

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« Reply #3156 on: May 11, 2012, 06:37:38 PM »
Here I am back in the land of the living I think.
Thanks Pedlin for the card. I too have been car shopping not
quite so studious as Pedlin, I drove into the dealer and said
this Tahoe is just too big and my people are haveing too much
trouble getting in and out. I didn't mention I too was having a problem
Saw a Kia Soul bought it and went home.No research.  After driving a
Tajhoe for 20 years and having never driven a foreign car I had to learn
a  few things in a hurry.
Ann I never recieved a card that I know of but thanks anyway. I hope you and Ralph feel
better soon.
Don is home again and doing very well. All the health people who come here are
very surprised and most have signed off already.Of course you still can't tell him anything
so the walker he promised to use is in the garage.
His only problem now is his balance and of course his memory but he is doing well.
Too long of a story now but I got myself in a mess wlhhich is not unusual for me.
I bought a shit zu in the parking lot of a feed store, I could tell something was really wrong
so I took her and turned out she was supposed to be going to a rescue place and the lady

stostsytole her and sold her to me.Th

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« Reply #3157 on: May 11, 2012, 06:42:13 PM »
Well I guess that post was done. With me anyway it just sort of stop.
Thanks to all who gave me all the support in the last few weeks too
many to mention. But thanks to all.

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« Reply #3158 on: May 12, 2012, 06:04:40 AM »
JUdy, I am so glad that  you sound back to your old self.. Take care of yourself. I hope the new dog works out for you.. I do a lot of rescue work.. I hope this one is a good one for you and Don. Just dont let him take it for a walk.
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« Reply #3159 on: May 12, 2012, 02:32:57 PM »
JUDY: so glad you're back and things are going well for Don. What a pity about the dog: I guess no good deed goes unpunished.