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mrssherlock

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« Reply #5440 on: May 19, 2014, 11:27:04 AM »
         
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MaryPage

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« Reply #5441 on: May 19, 2014, 03:17:04 PM »
Jackie, I take that as a compliment, but you sho nuf don't need an 85 year old wreck for an adoptive parent!

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« Reply #5442 on: May 20, 2014, 09:03:53 AM »
MaryPage, your email is hidden, so cannot give it to you. I think that is something they are doing on the site, since my email used to be there.
Anyway Bella is a bright observant young person and I know you are delighted with her.
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« Reply #5443 on: May 22, 2014, 08:29:16 AM »
I've picked up two Marie Corelli novels to read, both I have started. The Mighty Atom and Vendetta!; or, The Story of One Forgotten. I got sidetracked while reading the second and forgot I had started it. It begins in Italy during a plague, and I believe it ends up in South America. This is a story of a guy who discovered his wife had been cheating on him. That might not sound too interesting, but I would be spoiling it by telling you how he discovered this. It's a bit gothic, it think. Anyhow, I haven't gotten to the bit about how he intends to seek his revenge. It is good.

The Mighty Atom encompasses the debate between science and religion that Darwin's revelations caused. The protagonist is a little 11 year old boy whose father believes that anyone who believe in religious "myths" is weak minded and uneducated. To that end, he has his only child tutored at home, isolates him from others of his age, and believes that exercise and outdoor activities are a gigantic waste of time. Not surprisingly the boy is pale, weak, and exhausted by five years of what appears to be intense study. The boy, on an unauthorized outing, discovers a church and thus begins the dialog and clash between the two views.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Corelli

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« Reply #5444 on: May 25, 2014, 08:17:04 AM »
It appears that Marie Corelli lived a somewhat unconventional life (see Wiki link in the post below). That did not stop her from going on a diatribe, through her protagonist in Vendetta!, about how upper class women in England were lowering their respectability and moral standards by allowing themselves to sing or act in public. It continued with a dig at England's slide towards the perceived lower moral standards of France and Italy. Her description of Englishmen included being boring, stuffy, straight-laced, and lacking of humor. Interesting, since the story is set in Italy (so far as I've read) and the characters are Italian. The only Englishman (nameless) involved so far is only used as a study guide to a change in persona that the protagonist is trying to affect.

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« Reply #5445 on: May 25, 2014, 12:22:54 PM »
Isn't the author English - sounds like she is using the opportunity to spill her own values.
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« Reply #5446 on: May 25, 2014, 03:29:36 PM »
Yes, she was Barb. The Wiki article doesn't give a whole lot of info on her other than she was eccentric and she lived 40years with a female companion, giving rise to the suspicion that she was Lesbian. The article also gives the impression that she was interested in reincarnation, astral projection and other "New Age" subjects, but then I think a lot of others were also interested in mystical connections at the time. I wonder if she was into seances.

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« Reply #5447 on: May 27, 2014, 12:16:21 PM »
Always wanted to go to a seance..
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« Reply #5448 on: May 28, 2014, 02:05:04 AM »
Me,too!  Steph, are you in England?  What's up?  How's the trip going?  Are you feeling okay?Sounds like you will wear your granddaughter down to a nubbin'.  Sorry its been so rainy.  When we were there in '94, we had spectacular weather.  It only rained one day while we were traveling from our apartment in London to our B&B in Devon. We were there during the last week of June and the first week in July.  Well, there are
always cabs to dept stores and the Wax museum which I think some teens might enjoy.  How about a musical?  Like "The Million Dollar Quartet" or "The Jersey Boys"??  Is there a new musical out?  Something like that?
My granddaughter, 17, truly enjoyed "Hairspray" but its old so probably not on there.  
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Frybabe

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« Reply #5449 on: May 28, 2014, 08:28:12 AM »
Steph, I just found out that one of my niece's and a friend are planning a similar excursion to the one you are now on - London and then some European stops. I don't think they've decided yet where all they want to go after London.

rosemarykaye

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« Reply #5450 on: May 28, 2014, 08:49:55 AM »
Edinburgh of course!!!

Rosemary :-)

MaryPage

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« Reply #5451 on: May 28, 2014, 09:35:03 AM »
I say YORK, if it must be only one place.  York is beyond wonderful.  Or so it seemed to me.  I spent 3 days there.

I like Western Scotland better than Eastern Scotland.  Visit the Western Hebrides, or at least the inner Isle of Skye.  Lovely.

Don't miss Salisbury Cathedral.  I tended to be a cathedral hopper, myself;  and this was my favorite.  Oh so incredibly lovely.

Driving through Kent and seeing the oast houses is a treat.  Cornwall is such fun.  Start out hugging the north coast and you will soon see Doc Martin's Port Wenn, which is in real life known as Port Isaac.  They may well be filming there!  Then hug the coast all the way round to Land's End (and have a Cornish Pastie;  I did not much like them) and then follow the southern coastline into Daphne du Maurier country (Rebecca!) and you can see her home, which was the prototype for Manderlay.  I stayed in Fowey and loved it!

England is such a gem.  When my great granddaughter Bella was in London earlier this month, and had only 3 days, the first things she headed for were the Rosetta Stone and the Elgin Marbles!  Relics of Ancient Egypt and Greece!  It is too funny, when you think of it, but I cheered on those choices.  Here's Bella in London:

MaryPage

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« Reply #5452 on: May 28, 2014, 09:38:00 AM »
London was our last port. It wasn't even a port, it was just a place for the ship to get rid of us. The ship didn't dock in London itself, but in Southampton. After we had said our tearful goodbyes to the ship and our new family there, we got onto a shuttle to London. I had a slight cold involving a sore throat and a stuffy nose, so I couldn't enjoy the first 2 days as much as I would have been able to. Don't worry about that though. Once we arrived at our hotel, we settled in and started to explore.  We ate lunch at a restaurant close to the hotel. Then we walked to the famous British Museum. Inside the museum we saw the Rosetta Stone. The Rosetta Stone is an artifact that has Egyptian hieroglyphics and Greek writing on it. Since historians didn't understand Egyptian hieroglyphics back then, they used the Greek writing to figure it out. We also saw the Elgin Marbles. The Elgin Marbles are remains of beautiful friezes and sculptures from the ruins of the Parthenon in Athens. After we were finished looking, we went back to the hotel to take a nap.
When we woke up, we went to eat dinner. When we were done eating we went back to the hotel to sleep.
Next Day
This day Granddad and Doodah's friends led us through some of the city. Their names are Pau and Rosere with their girls Nuria (8 years old) and JoAnna ( 6 years old). We walked along the edge of the Thames river. I saw the London Eye (we didn't go into it) and many tall skyscrapers, including one called the pickle skyscraper.

JoAnna, Nuria, and I were talking and we kept saying different words that meant the same thing.  It was really funny. Let me tell you a bit of the differences between British english and American english:
crisps: chips
chips: french fries
pants: male underwear
trousers: pants
sneakers: trainers
bathroom: loo or wash-closet
boot: trunk of a car
lorry: truck
knickers: female underwear
Walkers crisps: Lays chips
bangers: sausages
flat: apartment
glue: gum
pudding: desert (Harry Potter makes a lot more sense now!)
bonnet: hood of a car
torch: flashlight
lollypop man: crossing guard
lift: elevator
chemist: somebody who works at a drugstore

That is pretty much all I know, but their is probably a lot more. Now, back to what we did. It was beginning to be lunch time, so we ate in a small skyscraper called Tate Modern. It was basically an art museum, so we went to a free exhibit. I had fish and "chips" (french fries). Once we were done eating we took a taxi boat to a different spot a long the Thames and got on a red double decker bus. I saw Big Ben! I expected it to be a bit bigger, but it was still really cool. When we got of the bus we were really close to Nuria and JoAnna's flat. We stayed there for a while then we walked to a nearby pub and ate.
Next Day
On this day we did some of our own unguided touring. We went to the Tower of London. It had the Crown Jewels inside, but it was to expensive to go in plus there was a long wait, so instead we admired the outside. Then we got into another taxi boat to Greenwich. While we were there we ate lunch and went to an observatory. Again, there was a long wait to go inside the main part, so we just stayed outside. I stood on both sides of the prime meridian at the same time! Then we took a taxi boat to a stop close to Buckingham Palace. On the way I saw Cleopatra's Needle and the new London Bridge. When the boat arrived to our stop, we walked to Buckingham palace. We stood outside the gates and watched the unbelievingly still guards. They only moved when they occasionally marched back and forth for exercise. Then we ate and went back to the hotel.
In our last few hours in London the next day, we just went to the airport, checked in, and flew to Iceland.

Tomereader1

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Re: Fiction ~ Old ~ New ~ Best Sellers #2
« Reply #5453 on: May 30, 2014, 12:14:44 PM »
Did anyone read "The Language of Flowers" by Vanessa Diffenbaugh?  I am now reading for f2f  book club, and while the story is a sad one, there is much to think about and enjoy. 
The reading of a fine book is an uninterrupted dialogue in which the book speaks and our soul replies.


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« Reply #5454 on: May 30, 2014, 10:31:39 PM »
I read it. It wasn't my usual type of book, but someone gave it to me, so I read it and passed it on to someone I thought might better appreciate it.

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« Reply #5455 on: May 31, 2014, 12:37:19 PM »
Tomereader,  I read & enjoyed The Language of Flowers.  Let me know what your reading group thinks as I may want to recommend it to my ftf club.
Sally

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« Reply #5456 on: May 31, 2014, 05:02:00 PM »
It is scheduled for July (I think) and can you believe the only male in our group was the one who suggested it!
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Steph

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« Reply #5457 on: June 01, 2014, 07:56:52 AM »
Home last night and still working on some other time system. We loved the off and on buses in London. We could make a circle and then go around a second time to what we wanted to do.. An easy way to see what is what.
Stephanie and assorted corgi

MaryPage

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« Reply #5458 on: June 01, 2014, 12:27:22 PM »
I cannot BELIEVE you have left and returned already!

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« Reply #5459 on: June 01, 2014, 02:57:47 PM »
I know MaryPage - where did that time go?!

Steph-  I'm glad your granddaughter liked London, but I'm amazed she liked it better than Paris - my daughters loved Paris (one of them also likes London and the other one really doesn't.)

Edinburgh is starting to get very busy with visitors and soon the Festival will quadruple the numbers.  The trams started running commercially yesterday too.  I am beginning to think I might spend part of the summer up in Aberdeen, where we will soon have a very teeny house - but one that does have a garden with a stream at the end of it.  I love Edinburgh but I think it is best in winter.

Rosemary

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« Reply #5460 on: June 01, 2014, 03:10:23 PM »
I liked London better than Paris (don't disown me, PatH), but I think it was because it was Winter and rained the whole time we were in Paris.

Steph

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« Reply #5461 on: June 02, 2014, 08:24:34 AM »
I think that not speaking French was what bothered Kaitlyn..She also was not happy when she discovered we had to pay and pay highly for going to the Louvre . She liked British Museum so much. I wanted her to go to D'orsay, but she decided not.. She also did not like French food,, she is still a typical American teen.. burgers, fries, etc etc
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« Reply #5462 on: June 11, 2014, 12:18:55 PM »
I just finished reading DIVERGENT by Veronica Roth because it is to be discussed in another book group to which I belong.  Really sorry I wasted my time on this Young Adult book, first of a trilogy. Very repetitive.  Way too long -- almost 500 pp.  I certainly won't see the movie being made from it.  I've been finding only a string of bad books lately -- I should have tossed this back without finishing it, as I did with the others.

Marj
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« Reply #5463 on: June 12, 2014, 09:04:17 AM »
Kaitlyn read two of the three Divergent books on Kindle when we were overseas. That was her night book.. She loved it, and wants me to read it.. maybe I will sample it.. So far behind just now..Started a fascinating new book  The Assassin's Accomplice by Kate Clifford Larson... subtitle Mary Surratt and the plot to kill
Abraham Lincoln.. Good research and of course true.. Thus far, I love her reasoning.
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« Reply #5464 on: June 13, 2014, 07:23:49 PM »
Has anybody read Invention of Wings? A novel that includes the lives of the Grimke sisters? I just got it on my library digital page, i was 37th when i first asked for it.

Jean

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« Reply #5465 on: June 14, 2014, 04:16:35 AM »
Jean, I read Invention of Wings a couple of months ago.  I thought it was very good.
Sally

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« Reply #5466 on: June 14, 2014, 09:57:46 AM »
Loved the book on Mary Surratt even though I disagreed with the author based entirely on what she wrote.. Her semi hero is someone that I think should have been tried. He really seemed to always be johnny on the spot and then quickly turned into an informer when suspected. I think Mary knew a lot, but not enough to be hung.
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MaryPage

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« Reply #5467 on: June 14, 2014, 01:50:47 PM »
The general who carried out the order to hang her was only following orders;  he felt very strongly that she should not be hanged.  He was an ancestor of mine, and I feel an obligation to explain he had nothing to do with the sentencing, he just carried it out.  A lot of people were angry for years afterwards, however, when they heard his name.  Typical ignorance of other folks lives and livelihoods:  you don't refuse an order in the military just because you do not like it!

marjifay

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« Reply #5468 on: June 14, 2014, 05:12:51 PM »
Steph, what is the name of the book regarding Mary Surratt  that you liked so much?

Marj
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Steph

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« Reply #5469 on: June 15, 2014, 09:20:21 AM »
The Assassins Apprentice.. Written as true by a professor of history. Excellent research, but I still believe that the man she quotes from what he wrote was a better candidate to hang. But he sang and sang and sang and really got Mary hung.
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mrssherlock

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« Reply #5470 on: June 15, 2014, 01:41:33 PM »
My library doesn't have Assassin's Apprentice.  Invention of Wings has 37 reserved with 31 copies but large print has only 10 of three copies.   Learned something new today.
Jackie
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marjifay

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« Reply #5471 on: June 15, 2014, 03:47:02 PM »
Jackie, I believe the title of the book about Mary Surratt is THE ASSASSIN'S ACCOMPLICE by Kate Clifford Larson.

Marj
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« Reply #5472 on: June 15, 2014, 07:46:38 PM »
I could be wrong or maybe the focus changed but I thought this discussion was about Mary Sutter from the author we are reading this month who also wrote - My Name Is Mary Sutter: A Novel, by Robin Oliveira
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« Reply #5473 on: June 15, 2014, 08:43:07 PM »
I think we had 2 different discussions going at the same time.  I was  talking about Robin Oliviera'a "I Always Loved YOu" about Mary Cassatt the artist, someone else was referencing the book about Surratt, who was hung for her part in Lincoln's assassination.  Mary Sutter is also by Robin Oliviera, relating to neither of the refernced persons.
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« Reply #5474 on: June 16, 2014, 12:05:21 AM »
Haha I just lost it...  ;)  :D
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« Reply #5475 on: June 16, 2014, 08:59:40 AM »
Yes, yes, the Surratt book is accomplice, not apprentice. A truly senior moment. Liked the book, but disagree with some of the conclusions. Her son got off scot free.. Amazing.
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marjifay

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« Reply #5476 on: June 16, 2014, 01:40:53 PM »
I'm almost finished with Stephen King's MR. MERCEDES.  Good read.  A bit long (437pp,) but it keeps you turning pages.  This time it's a detective story with a nice, retired detective.  Not a mystery, really, because you know who dunnit.  But the suspense is finding out if the detective will get the killer before the killer gets the detective.  I'm becoming a fan of King.
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mabel1015j

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« Reply #5477 on: June 16, 2014, 02:53:52 PM »
I'm liking The Invention of Wings. I have to close off my emotions at times bcs of the treatment of the slaves, but the writing is very good and there is hope lurking since i know Sarah Grimke is headed towards abolition.

Jean

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« Reply #5478 on: June 17, 2014, 09:01:16 AM »
I really think I will like the Invention of Wings and must look for a copy.
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« Reply #5479 on: June 22, 2014, 02:15:56 PM »

We have a 3-way tie for our next month's discussion. Please  help us decide on a book for July. Vote now at https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/77TM6S7

The books are:
Girls of Atomic City: The Untold Story of the Women Who Helped Win World War II by Denise Kiernan
The Greater Journey - Americans in Paris by David McCullough
Lucky Jim by Kingsley Amis