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fairanna

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« Reply #1480 on: May 08, 2010, 10:22:01 PM »


Cuttings


~ Michael P. Garofalo

Ahh, the wide almond groves in full white flower
Stunning in the morning sun.
Old naked Winter in
his garb of grays and browns has run.
Forsythia blooms
Come and go in the blink of a yellow Eye,
Then, suddenly, mysteriously,
Green erupts; and we sigh.



We would love you to Join us
As we celebrate Spring!


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My Poet Soul enjoys reading what you post and what you say

Who but a poet could see the romance in those little spots on the forest floor?

That is why I love poetry  Because poets see what we do not ....
Ever since I was a child poetry knocked on my door and said SEE SEE SEE
FEEL FEEL FEEL
AND it has never failed to enrich my life ,stretched me out so I COULD TOUCH THE STARS
ONE thing I am finding small children , teenagers and young adults coming to our poetry readings
and writing as well...that encourages me thanks for keeping this place open I know there are many who only stop by and read  ..wonderful day today in Sacramento wish you all a great tomorrow

Babi

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« Reply #1481 on: May 09, 2010, 08:47:34 AM »
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I am finding small children , teenagers and young adults coming to our poetry readings
and writing as well
(ANNA)
 
   And that encourages me as well, ANNA.  I'm glad to hear that younger generation are into something besides computers, iPods and twittier.
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

mrssherlock

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« Reply #1482 on: May 09, 2010, 01:41:46 PM »
Believe it or not this is by Dorothy Parker, a look at one mother in a different way;

Prayer For a New Mother
by Dorothy Parker

The things she knew, let her forget again-
The voices in the sky, the fear, the cold,
The gaping shepherds, and the queer old men
Piling their clumsy gifts of foreign gold.

Let her have laughter with her little one;
Teach her the endless, tuneless songs to sing,
Grant her her right to whisper to her son
The foolish names one dare not call a king.

Keep from her dreams the rumble of a crowd,
The smell of rough-cut wood, the trail of red,
The thick and chilly whiteness of the shroud
That wraps the strange new body of the dead.

Ah, let her go, kind Lord, where mothers go
And boast his pretty words and ways, and plan
The proud and happy years that they shall know
Together, when her son is grown a man.
Jackie
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke

Babi

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« Reply #1483 on: May 10, 2010, 08:09:04 AM »
  A sad poem, and, I agree, a departure for Dorothy Parker.  I like to tell myself that sons were
men at 13 in those days, and she had her son for twenty years.  That's something at least...
Not nearly enough, but she did have that much.
  I have three children who are the comfort and pride of my life.  I had two that I did not get
a chance to know.  I hope to meet them some day. 
 
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

mrssherlock

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« Reply #1484 on: May 10, 2010, 11:52:19 AM »
Babi:  I have one who never made it past the 30th week of gestation.  I did get to see her before they took her away.  My MIL, who adopted when she couldn't carry past three months, said that you never miss what you didn't have but that's not true.
Jackie
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke

Babi

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« Reply #1485 on: May 11, 2010, 08:07:03 AM »
  Yes.  It's not something one thinks of often, but from time to time I can't help wondering
what those boy would have been like, what they would have become.  But then I have to
remind myself that if they had lived, it's quite likely I would never have had my two present
younger children and that is a thought I can't bear.   
  Aren't you glad this sort of choice is out of our hands? 
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

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« Reply #1486 on: May 11, 2010, 11:38:52 AM »
A poem I remember from grade school.
Tiny Angels

Tiny Angels rest your wings
sit with me for awhile.
How I long to hold your hand,
And see your tender smile.
Tiny Angel, look at me,
I want this image clear....
That I will forget your precious face
Is my biggest fear.
Tiny Angel can you tell me,
Why you have gone away?
You weren't here for very long....
Why is it, you couldn't stay?
Tiny Angel shook his head,
"These things I do not know....
But I do know that you love me,
And that I love you so".

Author Unknown
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

mrssherlock

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« Reply #1487 on: May 11, 2010, 12:04:11 PM »
Barb: Astonishing that you always have le mot juste.  The poem is one I shall hold in my heart forever.

Babi:  The absent child has given me a greater sense of the miracle of birth and increased my love for the two I still have.
Jackie
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke

Babi

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« Reply #1488 on: May 12, 2010, 08:43:35 AM »
 How about this one?

   The Enkindled Spring
 D.H. Lawrence (1916)
 
This spring as it comes bursts up in bonfires green,
Wild puffing of emerald trees, and flame-filled bushes,
Thorn-blossom lifting in wreaths of smoke between
Where the wood fumes up and the watery, flickering rushes.

I am amazed at this spring, this conflagration
Of green fires lit on the soil of the earth, this blaze
Of growing, and sparks that puff in wild gyration,
Faces of people streaming across my gaze.

And I, what fountain of fire am I among
This leaping combustion of spring? My spirit is tossed
About like a shadow buffeted in the throng
Of flames, a shadow that’s gone astray, and is lost.
 
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

mrssherlock

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« Reply #1489 on: May 12, 2010, 02:05:28 PM »
A Spring View
Tu Fu (c. 750)

Though a country be sundered, hills and rivers endure;
And spring comes green again to trees and grasses
Where petals have been shed like tears
And lonely birds have sung their grief.
...After the war-fires of three months,
One message from home is worth a ton of gold.
...I stroke my white hair. It has grown too thin
To hold the hairpins any more.
Jackie
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke

mrssherlock

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« Reply #1490 on: May 12, 2010, 02:09:13 PM »
Forgive me if this is a repeat.


A Prayer in Spring
Robert Frost (1915)

Oh, give us pleasure in the flowers to-day;
And give us not to think so far away
As the uncertain harvest; keep us here
All simply in the springing of the year.

Oh, give us pleasure in the orchard white,
Like nothing else by day, like ghosts by night;
And make us happy in the happy bees,
The swarm dilating round the perfect trees.

And make us happy in the darting bird
That suddenly above the bees is heard,
The meteor that thrusts in with needle bill,
And off a blossom in mid air stands still.

For this is love and nothing else is love,
The which it is reserved for God above
To sanctify to what far ends He will,
But which it only needs that we fulfil.
Jackie
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke

fairanna

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« Reply #1491 on: May 12, 2010, 07:20:12 PM »
Poetry speaks volumes in just  a few words...it paints pictures without a brush or tubes of color
I hear its song even when there is no tune  it is the light in a darkened room
I know it can heal a broken heart and soothe pain without medicine ..    GOD BLESS ALL  , anna

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« Reply #1492 on: May 12, 2010, 08:41:51 PM »
We can never read Robert Frost too often can we - found this one that I cannot remember ever reading  
  
Spring Night
          ~ by Sara Teasdale
  
THE park is filled with night and fog,  
  The veils are drawn about the world,  
The drowsy lights along the paths  
  Are dim and pearled.  
  
Gold and gleaming the empty streets,          
  Gold and gleaming the misty lake,  
The mirrored lights like sunken swords,  
  Glimmer and shake.  
  
Oh, is it not enough to be  
Here with this beauty over me?  
My throat should ache with praise, and I  
Should kneel in joy beneath the sky.  
O beauty, are you not enough?  
Why am I crying after love,  
With youth, a singing voice, and eyes  
To take earth's wonder with surprise?
 
Why have I put off my pride,  
Why am I unsatisfied,—  
I, for whom the pensive night  
Binds her cloudy hair with light,—    
I, for whom all beauty burns  
Like incense in a million urns?  
O beauty, are you not enough?  
Why am I crying after love?

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1493 on: May 12, 2010, 08:47:07 PM »
Oh and another by Tu Fu also spelled - Dù Fu

Delighting in Rain on a Spring Night
 
A good rain knows its proper time;
It waits until the Spring to fall.
It drifts in on the wind, steals in by night,
Its fine drops drench, yet make no sound at all.
The paths between the fields are cloaked with clouds;
A river-skiff’s lone light still burns.
Come dawn, we’ll see splashes of wet red –
The flowers in Chengdu*, weighed down with rain.

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

Babi

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« Reply #1494 on: May 13, 2010, 08:06:57 AM »
Sara, Tu Fu, Frost....what a lovely start to my day.
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

mrssherlock

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« Reply #1495 on: May 13, 2010, 12:53:35 PM »
Babi:  My sentiments exactly.

Barb:  Thank you for the pleasure this discussion has given me, my life is richer for it.
Jackie
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke

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« Reply #1496 on: May 14, 2010, 08:08:43 AM »
THE MERRY MONTH OF MAY
    by: Thomas Dekker

 THE month of May, the merry month of May,
So frolic, so gay, and so green, so green, so green!
O, and then did I unto my true love say,
Sweet Peg, thou shalt be my Summer's Queen.
 
Now the nightingale, the pretty nightingale,
The sweetest singer in all the forest quire,
Entreats thee, sweet Peggy, to hear thy true love's tale:
Lo, yonder she sitteth, her breast against a brier.
 
But O, I spy the cuckoo, the cuckoo, the cuckoo;
See where she sitteth; come away, my joy:
Come away, I prithee, I do not like the cuckoo
Should sing where my Peggy and I kiss and toy.
 
O, the month of May, the merry month of May,
So frolic, so gay, and so green, so green, so green;
And then did I unto my true love say,
Sweet Peg, thou shalt be my Summer's Queen.
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

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« Reply #1497 on: May 14, 2010, 01:38:51 PM »
hehehe - Here you are Babi offering us the Merry Month of May  all springiness and light and all I can think of is dark clouds   thunder and driving rain. Needless to say after 5 days in a row of overcaste sky and then today the thunder rolls and the lightening flashes I am  hard pressed to share the  scrubbing going on outside my window  and the dark dreary inside this house -

I hate to put on all the lights and so there is a pool of light  in the Den and light from the computer that makes me remember as a small child days when life went on in the semi-dark - how she did it I cannot imagine but wi th no artificial light Mama would be at her sewing machine on rainy days or at the window for the best light as she hand sewed  - There was always work to be done regardless the weather  however, a day like this meant no visiting and chatting with the neighbors standing outside before they all rushed off to start dinner.

Well here goes with  -
The Spring Storm
          ~ William Carlos Williams  
 
  The sky has given over
its bitterness.
Out of the dark change
all day long
rain falls and falls
as if it would never end.
Still the snow keeps
its hold on the ground.
But water, water
from a thousand runnels!
It collects swiftly,
dappled with black
cuts a way for itself
through green ice in the gutters.
Drop after drop it falls
from the withered grass-stems
of the overhanging embankment.


The Dark Day
          ~ William Carlos Williams

A three-day-long rain from the east--
an terminable talking, talking
of no consequence--patter, patter, patter.
Hand in hand little winds
blow the thin streams aslant.
Warm. Distance cut off. Seclusion.
A few passers-by, drawn in upon themselves,
hurry from one place to another.
Winds of the white poppy! there is no escape!--
An interminable talking, talking,
talking . . .it has happened before.
Backward, backward, backward.



“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1498 on: May 14, 2010, 01:40:45 PM »
I am not fond of Elliot mostly because he treated his wife so poorly and then tried to abandon his heritage - so it is him and not his poetry that rankles however this is too perfect considering the day.

Morning at the Window

THEY are rattling breakfast plates in basement kitchens,
And along the trampled edges of the street
I am aware of the damp souls of housemaids
Sprouting despondently at area gates.

The brown waves of fog toss up to me
Twisted faces from the bottom of the street,
And tear from a passer-by with muddy skirts
An aimless smile that hovers in the air
And vanishes along the level of the roofs.

T. S. Eliot

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« Reply #1499 on: May 14, 2010, 01:49:18 PM »
Well obviously this poet does not know a Texas/Midwest rain that brings with it distruction as tornadoes swirl  up at a moments notice. However, she writes a lovely portrait of rain.

Oh, gray and tender is the rain

OH, gray and tender is the rain,
That drips, drips on the pane!
A hundred things come in the door,
The scent of herbs, the thought of yore.

I see the pool out in the grass,
A bit of broken glass;
The red flags running wet and straight,
Down to the little flapping gate.

Lombardy poplars tall and three,
Across the road I see;
There is no loveliness so plain
As a tall poplar in the rain.

But oh, the hundred things and more,
That come in at the door! --
The smack of mint, old joy, old pain,
Caught in the gray and tender rain.

Lizette Woodworth Reese


“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

Babi

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« Reply #1500 on: May 15, 2010, 08:26:35 AM »
 Williams certainly provided you with two appropriate poems for your rainy
weather, BARB. We had a rainstorm last night, but it has cleared up now.
Rains that last for days really are depressing.

  I knew nothing about Eliot's personal life, but I love the poem. "..the
damp souls of housemaids sprouting despondently at area gates." I'm afraid
you cannot expect genius to be confined to the nice people.
  I like Reese's rain also. We do, if rarely, get that soft rain here in
Texas.  Just not, usually, at this time of year.  My favorite rain is that
which falls while the sun is out, glittering and sparkling and cooling.
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

fairanna

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« Reply #1501 on: May 16, 2010, 12:02:58 AM »
While I bask in sunshine here in Sacramento my home in Va is drenched with pouring rain and and thunderheads unzips the clouds and throws daggers at the ground I wonder at my flowers there no one to prop them up or pick  off the ground What will I find when I return ? green grass like unripe wheat waving above the soil and dead flowers composting on the ground ? Do they wonder where I am ? or do they really care ?I like to think when I am back they will not blame me for my lack of care but respond like orphans and just be glad I am there and they are found...
inspired by posted poems  I cant seem to zap a poem in my documentary file and add it anywhere 

God Bless all and it is a joy to read what you  have shared //anna

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« Reply #1502 on: May 16, 2010, 04:28:17 AM »
This poem Fairanna emailed for our site - she is not able to navigate her Mac Laptop while on the west coast as she can  at  home in Virginia.

Come ye heroes Rise Up

From your graves, wherever they may be.
Some honored, some unmarked, some beneath the sea.
Today we need to celebrate each of you,
Who fought ,though ill supplied, against enemies
On every side. We need to honor you .
Do not let US forget the price you paid.
The debt we owe, and less we forget
Amidst the picnics and parades
To honor you. Let us kneel down and PRAY!
To thank you for your sacrifice, for your family
Left alone to face the future. They too were brave,
To kiss you and say goodbye and never know
If you would die and left behind in an unmarked spot,
Or maimed and crippled return to say,
I am glad and have no remorse for the gift I fought
To save. Freedom, Oh use it well for it can tarnish
Without your help. I beg of you don't let anyone take it away.
Ring your bells, wave the flags, cheer the living
And bless the dead. AND Thank God with heart and soul
Or come and lie with me.

anna alexander
July 3, 2003©
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« Reply #1503 on: May 21, 2010, 04:52:36 AM »

The Box
          ~ by Kendrew Lascelles

Once upon a time, in the land of Hush-A-Bye,
Around about the wondrous days of yore,
They came across a kind of box
Bound up with chains and locked with locks
And labeled "Kindly do not touch; it's war."

A decree was issued round about,
and all with a flourish and a shout
And a gaily colored mascot
tripping lightly on before.
Don't fiddle with this deadly box,
Or break the chains, or pick the locks.
And please don't ever play about with war.

The children understood.
Children happen to be good
And they were just as good around the time of yore.
They didn't try to pick the locks
Or break into that deadly box.
They never tried to play about with war.

Mommies didn't either;
sisters, aunts, grannies neither
'Cos they were quiet, and sweet, and pretty
In those wondrous days of yore.
Well, very much the same as now,
And not the ones to blame somehow
For opening up that deadly box of war.

But someone did. Someone battered in the lid
And spilled the insides out across the floor.
A kind of bouncy, bumpy ball made up of guns and flags
And all the tears, and horror,
and death that comes with war.
It bounced right out and went bashing all about,
Bumping into everything in store.

And what was sad and most unfair
Was that it didn't really seem to care
Much who it bumped, or why, or what, or for.
It bumped the children mainly.
And I'll tell you this quite plainly,
It bumps them every day and more, and more,
And leaves them dead, and burned, and dying
Thousands of them sick and crying.
'Cos when it bumps, it's really very sore.

Now there's a way to stop the ball.
It isn't difficult at all.
All it takes is wisdom, and I'm absolutely sure
That we can get it back into the box,
And bind the chains, and lock the locks.
But no one seems to want to save the children anymore.

Well, that's the way it all appears,
'Cos it's been bouncing round for years and years
In spite of all the wisdom wizzed
since those wondrous days of yore
And the time they came across the box,
Bound up with chains and locked with locks,
And labeled "Kindly do not touch; it's war."
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1504 on: May 21, 2010, 08:38:34 AM »
 I only wish it were true,...that bit about 'it isn't difficult at all', to stop wars.  "Wisdom" tells me, tho', that first we've got to end greed, and fear,
and the lust for power. That is very difficult indeed.

 
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« Reply #1505 on: May 21, 2010, 11:21:37 AM »
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Mommies didn't either;
sisters, aunts, grannies neither
'Cos they were quiet, and sweet, and pretty

And that leaves who as the naughty one?

Very powerful.
Jackie
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« Reply #1506 on: May 21, 2010, 12:12:16 PM »
The Galloping Cat
          ~ by Stevie Smith 

Oh I am a cat that likes to
Gallop about doing good
So
One day when I was
Galloping about doing good, I saw
A figure in the path; I said
Get off! (Be-
cause
I am a cat that likes to
Gallop about doing good)
But he did not move, instead
He raised his hand as if
To land me a cuff
So I made to dodge so as to
Prevent him bringing it orf,
Un-for-tune-ately I slid
On a banana skin
Some Ass had left instead
Of putting in the bin. So
His hand caught me on the cheek
I tried
To lay his arm open from wrist to elbow
With my sharp teeth
 
Because I am
A cat that likes to gallop about doing good.
Would you believe it?
He wasn’t there
My teeth met nothing but air,
But a Voice said: Poor Cat,
(Meaning me) and a soft stroke
Came on me head
Since when
I have been bald.

I regard myself as
A martyr to doing good
Also I heard a swoosh
As of wings, and saw
A halo shining at the height of
Mrs Gubbins’s backyard fence,
So I thought: What’s the good
Of galloping about doing good
When angels stand in the path
And do not do as they should
Such as having an arm to be bitten off
All the same I
Intend to go on being
A cat that likes to
Gallop about doing good
So
Now with my bald head I go,
Chopping the untidy flowers down, to
and fro,
An’ scooping up the grass to show
Underneath
The cinder path of wrath
Ha ha ha ha, ho,
Angels aren’t the only ones who do
not know
What’s what and that
Galloping about doing good
Is a full time job
That needs
An experienced eye of earthly
Sharpness, worth I dare say
(if you’ll forgive a personal note)
A good deal more
Than all that skyey stuff
Of angels that make so bold as
To pity a cat like me that
Gallops about doing good.

“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #1507 on: May 22, 2010, 08:08:07 AM »
 Is that the same cat, I wonder,..husky, gray fellow with slit eyes....who said, "I categorically
deny all allegations".

  Here's another Robert Frost with the unexpected closure.

Come In
by Robert Frost

As I came to the edge of the woods,
Thrush music -- hark!
Now if it was dusk outside,
Inside it was dark.

Too dark in the woods for a bird
By sleight of wing
To better its perch for the night,
Though it still could sing.

The last of the light of the sun
That had died in the west
Still lived for one song more
In a thrush's breast.

Far in the pillared dark
Thrush music went --
Almost like a call to come in
To the dark and lament.

But no, I was out for stars;
I would not come in.
I meant not even if asked;
And I hadn't been.   
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« Reply #1508 on: May 22, 2010, 11:33:44 AM »
Wow!  How can each Frost poem exceed the last?
Jackie
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« Reply #1509 on: May 23, 2010, 01:42:20 PM »
You are finding treasures for us Babi - the poem has an in-out theme that I am having difficulty getting to the nub of what Frost is saying. What do y'all think -

Out is at first dusk as compared to in being dark - but then the woods too dark are out. Then the dark calls and he wants to wait for the stars although I guess he is saying the stars had not asked him for his company - or is in and out about our interior and exterior life -

Reading the poem sounds wonderful and speaks with such charm about a Thrush which is more than a bird bringing up all our associations with a Thrush romanticized by other authors - and then the woods, dark and light, and the stars - a thrilling combination of elements however, the in and out aspect is where I am bogging down.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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Re: Poetry Page
« Reply #1510 on: May 23, 2010, 09:28:40 PM »
Barb:  The poet, out (of doors) to look at the stars, hears the thrush  in the woods where it is already too dark to see is singing as if still in sunlight.  the song tempts the poet but he realizes that the song is not an invitation so he would not be welcome.  He is there for the stars, after all, not to share the lament of the thrush (for the day/sun now past?)  That's my take.
Jackie
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« Reply #1511 on: May 24, 2010, 03:57:51 AM »
Thanks - reading your post makes me aware that it is the word Lament that is throwing me - there are few clues as to  what the Lament of the Thrush is all about - lamenting the end of day maybe? - or lamenting time gone in the form of a day as though that is something to lament - something about the dark being where lamenting takes place - pillard dark at that - he is saying he is there for the stars - OK I get that but the stars are out - the woods are in - a ha... just thought the stars are eternal light where as the woods with its unknown perils is dark out of which comes the song of the Thrush like a messenger or spirit coming out of the dark.

Do you think he is saying our soul or our spirit like the Thrush sings a lament in the dark - is he suggesting that those who look for the light even at night sky do not lament at the end of day - where the sun may set we do not settle for the dark as long as we look for the light even if only in the stars...?
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« Reply #1512 on: May 24, 2010, 08:08:48 AM »
  Or perhaps Frost is just in a lighthearted mood, and is saying one has
an option whether to go into the dark where the thrush laments, or stay
out and watch for the starlight.
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« Reply #1513 on: May 29, 2010, 01:34:30 PM »
This poem is long for our web site but it has been years since I read it and it is too perfect for this weekend.

Ode in Memory of the American Volunteers Fallen for France
          ~ by Alan Seeger
I

Ay, it is fitting on this holiday,
Commemorative of our soldier dead,
When -- with sweet flowers of our New England May
Hiding the lichened stones by fifty years made gray --
Their graves in every town are garlanded,
That pious tribute should be given too
To our intrepid few
Obscurely fallen here beyond the seas.
Those to preserve their country's greatness died;
But by the death of these
Something that we can look upon with pride
Has been achieved, nor wholly unreplied
Can sneerers triumph in the charge they make
That from a war where Freedom was at stake
America withheld and, daunted, stood aside.

II

Be they remembered here with each reviving spring,
Not only that in May, when life is loveliest,
Around Neuville-Saint-Vaast and the disputed crest
Of Vimy, they, superb, unfaltering,
In that fine onslaught that no fire could halt,
Parted impetuous to their first assault;
But that they brought fresh hearts and springlike too
To that high mission, and 'tis meet to strew
With twigs of lilac and spring's earliest rose
The cenotaph of those
Who in the cause that history most endears
Fell in the sunny morn and flower of their young years.

III

et sought they neither recompense nor praise,
Nor to be mentioned in another breath
Than their blue coated comrades whose great days
It was their pride to share -- ay, share even to the death!
Nay, rather, France, to you they rendered thanks
(Seeing they came for honor, not for gain),
Who, opening to them your glorious ranks,
Gave them that grand occasion to excel,
That chance to live the life most free from stain
And that rare privilege of dying well.

IV

O friends! I know not since that war began
From which no people nobly stands aloof
If in all moments we have given proof
Of virtues that were thought American.
I know not if in all things done and said
All has been well and good,
Or if each one of us can hold his head
As proudly as he should,
Or, from the pattern of those mighty dead
Whose shades our country venerates to-day,

If we've not somewhat fallen and somewhat gone astray.
But you to whom our land's good name is dear,
If there be any here
Who wonder if her manhood be decreased,
Relaxed its sinews and its blood less red
Than that at Shiloh and Antietam shed,
Be proud of these, have joy in this at least,
And cry: "Now heaven be praised
That in that hour that most imperilled her,
Menaced her liberty who foremost raised
Europe's bright flag of freedom, some there were
Who, not unmindful of the antique debt,
Came back the generous path of Lafayette;
And when of a most formidable foe
She checked each onset, arduous to stem --
Foiled and frustrated them --
On those red fields where blow with furious blow
Was countered, whether the gigantic fray
Rolled by the Meuse or at the Bois Sabot,
Accents of ours were in the fierce melee;
And on those furthest rims of hallowed ground
Where the forlorn, the gallant charge expires,
When the slain bugler has long ceased to sound,
And on the tangled wires
The last wild rally staggers, crumbles, stops,
Withered beneath the shrapnel's iron showers: --
Now heaven be thanked, we gave a few brave drops;
Now heaven be thanked, a few brave drops were ours."

V

There, holding still, in frozen steadfastness,
Their bayonets toward the beckoning frontiers,
They lie -- our comrades -- lie among their peers,
Clad in the glory of fallen warriors,
Grim clusters under thorny trellises,
Dry, furthest foam upon disastrous shores,
Leaves that made last year beautiful, still strewn
Even as they fell, unchanged, beneath the changing moon;
And earth in her divine indifference
Rolls on, and many paltry things and mean
Prate to be heard and caper to be seen.
But they are silent, calm; their eloquence
Is that incomparable attitude;
No human presences their witness are,
But summer clouds and sunset crimson-hued,
And showers and night winds and the northern star.
Nay, even our salutations seem profane,
Opposed to their Elysian quietude;
Our salutations calling from afar,
From our ignobler plane
And undistinction of our lesser parts:
Hail, brothers, and farewell; you are twice blest, brave hearts.
Double your glory is who perished thus,
For you have died for France and vindicated us.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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Re: Poetry Page
« Reply #1514 on: May 29, 2010, 08:24:30 PM »
Wilfred Gibson (1878-1962)
BACK

    They ask me where I've been,
    And what I've done and seen.
    But what can I reply
    Who know it wasn't I,
    But someone just like me,
    Who went across the sea
    And with my head and hands
    Killed men in foreign lands...
    Though I must bear the blame,
    Because he bore my name.
Jackie
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« Reply #1515 on: May 30, 2010, 10:23:54 AM »
  That is surely one of the most horrible aspects of war, JACKIE, that young men and women must take upon themselves the terrible burden of taking lives.  Is it any wonder that so many
are unable to cope with it?

Michael N. Audenaert
 
Guilt

these pale shades of countless sins
they dance and play and they hold sway
this mind of mine a wretched tomb
unwelcome home of these foul bones

this war i fight i can no more
your peace oh Lord for me you've sworn
bid them away to their home etern
i'm risen with You no longer dead.

 

 
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« Reply #1516 on: May 30, 2010, 12:01:25 PM »
Oh, Babi, that one made me cry.
Jackie
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke

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« Reply #1517 on: May 31, 2010, 08:13:02 AM »
 It made me feel sad and helpless. 
"I go to books and to nature as a bee goes to the flower, for a nectar that I can make into my own honey."  John Burroughs

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« Reply #1518 on: June 03, 2010, 01:10:11 PM »
I am astounded - this poem by Baudelaire has been translated into English 5 times and each time there is a difference -

We are not talking about some exotic language here - this is only French - this is not translating Chinese with 4000 letters all in symbols - we are talking French! The mother language of nearly half of Lousiana - the language most of us studied for a few years during our high school days - then we wonder why there is misinterpretation when visiting dignitaries visit another nation.

I have little experience reading Baudelaire although he has been on my list for years so here we go...

Harmonie du soir
          — Charles Baudelaire

Voici venir les temps où vibrant sur sa tige
Chaque fleur s'évapore ainsi qu'un encensoir;
Les sons et les parfums tournent dans l'air du soir;
Valse mélancolique et langoureux vertige!

Chaque fleur s'évapore ainsi qu'un encensoir;
Le violon frémit comme un coeur qu'on afflige;
Valse mélancolique et langoureux vertige!
Le ciel est triste et beau comme un grand reposoir.

Le violon frémit comme un coeur qu'on afflige,
Un coeur tendre, qui hait le néant vaste et noir!
Le ciel est triste et beau comme un grand reposoir;
Le soleil s'est noyé dans son sang qui se fige.

Un coeur tendre, qui hait le néant vaste et noir,
Du passé lumineux recueille tout vestige!
Le soleil s'est noyé dans son sang qui se fige...
Ton souvenir en moi luit comme un ostensoir!


Evening Harmony

The season is at hand when swaying on its stem
Every flower exhales perfume like a censer;
Sounds and perfumes turn in the evening air;
Melancholy waltz and languid vertigo!

Every flower exhales perfume like a censer;
The violin quivers like a tormented heart;
Melancholy waltz and languid vertigo!
The sky is sad and beautiful like an immense altar.

The violin quivers like a tormented heart,
A tender heart, that hates the vast, black void!
The sky is sad and beautiful like an immense altar;
The sun has drowned in his blood which congeals...

A tender heart that hates the vast, black void
Gathers up every shred of the luminous past!
The sun has drowned in his blood which congeals...
Your memory in me glitters like a monstrance!

— William Aggeler, The Flowers of Evil (Fresno, CA: Academy Library Guild, 1954)


Evening Harmony

Now comes the eve, when on its stem vibrates
Each flower, evaporating like a censer;
When sounds and scents in the dark air grow denser;
Drowsed swoon through which a mournful waltz pulsates!

Each flower evaporates as from a censer;
The fiddle like a hurt heart palpitates;
Drowsed swoon through which a mournful waltz pulsates;
The sad, grand sky grows, altar-like, immenser.

The fiddle, like a hurt heart, palpitates,
A heart that hates oblivion, ruthless censor.
The sad, grand sky grows, altar-like, immenser.
The sun in its own blood coagulates...

A heart that hates oblivion, ruthless censor,
The whole of the bright past resuscitates.
The sun in its own blood coagulates...
And, monstrance-like, your memory flames intenser!

— Roy Campbell, Poems of Baudelaire (New York: Pantheon Books, 1952)


Harmonie du soir

the hours approach when vibrant in the breeze,
a censer swoons to every swaying flower;
blown tunes and scents in turn enchant the bower;
languorous waltz of swirling fancies these!

a censer swoons in every swaying flower;
the quivering violins cry out, decrease;
languorous waltz of swirling fancies these!
mournful and fair the heavenly altars tower.

the quivering violins cry out, decrease;
like hearts of love the Void must overpower!
mournful and fair the heavenly altars tower.
the drowned sun bleeds in fast congealing seas.

a heart of love the Void must overpower
peers for a vanished day's last vestiges!
the drowned sun bleeds in fast congealing seas...
and like a Host thy flaming memories flower!

— Lewis Piaget Shanks, Flowers of Evil (New York: Ives Washburn, 1931)


Evening Harmony

Now is the time when trembling on its stem
Each flower fades away like incense;
Sounds and scents turn in the evening air;
A melancholy waltz, a soft and giddy dizziness!

Each flower fades away like incense;
The violin thrills like a tortured heart;
A melancholy waltz, a soft and giddy dizziness!
The sky is sad and beautiful like some great resting-place.

The violin thrills like a tortured heart,
A tender heart, hating the wide black void.
The sky is sad and beautiful like some great resting-place;
The sun drowns itself in its own clotting blood.

A tender heart, boring the wide black void,
Gathers all trace from the pellucid past.
The sun drowns itself in clotting blood.
Like the Host shines O your memory in me!

— Geoffrey Wagner, Selected Poems of Charles Baudelaire (NY: Grove Press, 1974)


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Re: Poetry Page
« Reply #1519 on: June 03, 2010, 01:21:24 PM »
later this month we tip into Summer according to the big clock outside London. We have been experiencing summer like weather for the past few weeks however, until the children are out of school it does not feel like summer to me. Well yesterday was the last day of school and next week we start - yep, 100 degree temps day after day -

I wonder how many days in a row it will be this  year - last  year it was well over 40 -  I think 47 or 48 - I do remember the heat didn't break with the usual crashing storm and so where it never reached 50 days in a row the predictions were still high for 50 days total and we avoided it by only one or two days. Well onward - here is a Summer Poem.

Summer Sun
          ~ by Robert Louis Stevenson

Great is the sun, and wide he goes
Through empty heaven with repose;
And in the blue and glowing days
More thick than rain he showers his rays.

Though closer still the blinds we pull
To keep the shady parlour cool,
Yet he will find a chink or two
To slip his golden fingers through.

The dusty attic spider-clad
He, through the keyhole, maketh glad;
And through the broken edge of tiles
Into the laddered hay-loft smiles.

Meantime his golden face around
He bares to all the garden ground,
And sheds a warm and glittering look
Among the ivy's inmost nook.

Above the hills, along the blue,
Round the bright air with footing true,
To please the child, to paint the rose,
The gardener of the World, he goes.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe