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rosemarykaye

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« Reply #22240 on: March 04, 2021, 11:04:39 AM »







The Library


Our library  is open 24/7; the welcome mat is always out.
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Tomereader - I know!  I have to stop myself buying them sometimes as I could sit there and eat the entire jar, especially the apricot one.

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« Reply #22241 on: March 04, 2021, 02:31:55 PM »
Yes, Bonnie Maman - only I have to have it on toast and so double the calories, sigh - but yes, oh so good...

Now that you have finished the challenge I need to get busy and finish - some are easy and some take a bit - I think I'll break the list down and do a couple now and then later this evening or tomorrow finish it up...

Day 18 - the last book(s) you bought:

We Were Rich and We Didn't Know It: A Memoir of My Irish Boyhood by Tom Phelan
     For the last 20 years or more my sister keeps saying, We were poor and didn't know it and inwardly I bristle everytime - I saw us as rich beyond measure except in money and so I wanted to hear what Tom Phelan had to say about the issue...

Sewing Happiness: A Year of Simple Projects for Living Well by Sanae Ishida
    Interesting - the author goes through a hard time in life, loosing her job and other issues - she decides to chronicalize her healing emotional journey which she does by sewing - the book is sectioned by seasons for the year of her emotional journey and includes the patterns of her creative output each month and how it tied into her journey - lots of wonderful photos.
 
Liturgy of the Ordinary: Sacred Practices in Everyday Life by Tish Harrison Warren, Andy Crouch
     Actually I purchased The Gift of Being Yourself: The Sacred Call to Self-Discovery (The Spiritual Journey) by David B. Benner as my reading for Lent and was so turned off - another of these transform your life books that I am fed up with so many serious writers, church centered or not, wanting us to transform our lives - I've had it - we are who we are and yes, we can do better here and there but, good grief if you believe in God then God made us as we are - we were not meant to change the unique bit that affects our family and community and so the book is in my sell pile and since I am not a pillar of the community or famous for anything, the little things, the ordinary things, are my life and to appreciate them makes more sense to me...

The Comanche Empire (The Lamar Series in Western History)by Pekka Hamalainen
     Have not started this yet, I'm hoping for a fair account - today so many want to make native American's into the victim of the white man's Hegemony whose only crime was in reaction to our forceful nature and our 'double talk' without taking into account many Indians were not just brutal to whites but were far worse to each other and they too were formidable working out boundaries and behavior agreements often holding in ransom and delivering to the talks cut off parts of captives faces etc. or ending the treaty talks by delivering all the captives dead.  - Yes, the Indian knowledge of nature is superior, their art is amazing and we have a lot to learn from their holistic healing however, they too have their dark side - Most of the latest books feature the way tribal nations governed. I am always anxious to learn more native history and culture and now, the manner of tribal nations governing is being funded for further research - the Lamar Series has a good reputation and so this purchase was a no brainer.

Day 19 - a book you thought was over-rated:

Haha obviously - The Gift of Being Yourself: The Sacred Call to Self-Discovery (The Spiritual Journey) by David B. Benner - Over rated by the Amazon write up for sure...

And yes, I have to agree with Rosemary - Cold Comfort Farm by Stella Gibbons

Day 20 - the next book you plan to read:

Never, since a kid have I read one book at a time - always have several going - where it used to be one on the back stairs to grab on the way out of the house that later my purse was the grabbing point, now I hardly leave the house so I would say the book I'm reading on kindle that I usually read on my computer in addition to the one in the living room sofa and then the one next to my bedroom chair and sometimes one on the breakfast room table.

And so on the top of my pile for the next reads are: Tepper Isn't Going Out: A Novel by Calvin Trillin for fun

Corpus Mysticum: The Eucharist and the Church in the Middle Ages by Henry Cardinal de Lubac, S.J. - now deceased, whose theology was the driving force of Vatican II - this will take real effort - one of those books where each sentence has at least 3 words I have to look up and then read the sentence sometimes as many as 6 times to understand - but oh so worth the effort.

The Economics of Discontent: From Failing Elites to The Rise of Populism by Jean-Michel Paul - I've been gobbling up everything to further understand the political world around us...

Day 21 - your favourite retelling of another story:

The Curious Charms of Arthur Pepper by Phaedra Patrick that retells Pilgrims Progress
     A good man's search to understand his deceased wife after finding among her things and using the charms on her bracelet as the places to visit and meet those who knew her at those various stages in her life - his own struggle when he not only has unexpected adventures but also, is being gifted life changing awakenings as he learns of his now deceased wife's wide and sometimes intimate life experiences 
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #22242 on: March 04, 2021, 03:22:03 PM »
Rosemary, glad there is another "apricot nut" in this world!  My very favorite kind of preserves (although I think raspberry comes in second).  Peanut butter with Apricot preserves (by Bonne Maman) on any kind of bread or toast.
I had an entire shelf of those Bonne Maman jars that I had emptied, and I was finally able to give them to someone on the NextDoor site, who was into making their own jam, jelly, preserves, whatever!  I now have another 4 jars on the shelf! 
The reading of a fine book is an uninterrupted dialogue in which the book speaks and our soul replies.


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Re: The Library
« Reply #22243 on: March 05, 2021, 03:09:16 AM »
I totally agree about Bonne Maman preserves.  Apricot is best, closely followed by raspberry.

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« Reply #22244 on: March 05, 2021, 03:17:45 AM »
Goodness - not sleeping and so I thought for fun I'd look and see if there any books with Apricot in the Title - shock - a bonanza - 

Look at all this - go down the page and see them all

https://www.google.com/search?q=book+about+apricots&client=firefox-b-1-d&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjMw4ae1ZjvAhVJZ80KHbz6DHgQ1TV6BQgFEIgC&biw=1618&bih=882

Nearly all the novels are filled with tragedy but this is one that looks good to me... When the Apricots Bloom by Gina Wilkinson - and just published last month that is already an International Best seller

https://www.amazon.com/When-Apricots-Bloom-Gina-Wilkinson/dp/1496729358/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=apricot&qid=1614931575&s=books&sr=1-1

I'm tempted however, I delayed a couple of deliveries and so I will wait till I can apply those credits

I don't dare look for titles that include raspberry for fear there will be another book I think I cannot do without - I do not know which is worse a sweet tooth or a fetish for books.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #22245 on: March 05, 2021, 03:24:14 AM »
Pat or anyone - have y'all tasted the one that is a mixture of both Apricot and Raspberry? Just saw in on the delivery page from Whole Foods
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #22246 on: March 05, 2021, 06:03:44 AM »
I never heard of Bonnie Maman, but I do like Apricot preserves as well as good ol' Orange Marmalade. Occasionally, I will buy something else for a change, but one or both of these are always on hand.

Day 18 - the last book(s) you bought: My February buys
Children of Rain - Adrian Tchaikovsky (audiobook)
Mithridates the Great: Rome's Indomitable Enemy - Philip Matyzak
Musashi - Eiji Yoshikawa, Charles S. Terry - translator  (audiobook)
Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A. Heinlein  (audiobook)
The Man with Two Names: A Novel of Ancient Rome, The Noise of War: A Tale of Ancient Rome, and Bodies in the Tiber: An Ancient Rome Political Thriller - Vincent B Davis II
Five Ways to Forgiveness - Ursula K. Le Guin
Man of High Empire: The Life of Pliny the Younger - Roy K. Gibson
Trader's Leap - Sharon Lee and Steve Miller

I think I went nuts in February.


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« Reply #22247 on: March 05, 2021, 08:19:25 AM »
Found that Walmart carries Bonnie Maman-will have to give it a try. Lemon Curd sounds so good!

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« Reply #22248 on: March 05, 2021, 08:45:32 AM »
Day 19 - a book you thought was over-rated:
The Alchemist - Paulo Coelho
The Celestine Prophecy - James Redfield
   Well, I guess you could say these mystical/philosophical journey novels generally do nothing for me at all. The Celestine Prophecy was at one time recommended reading for executives. Huh!

I deemed, in college, Faulkner's Light in August not worthy of being forced to read it for a college class. Then there was Catcher in the Rye by J. D. Salinger. Back then I definitely was not into anything that was foul-mouthed or vulgar. Maybe these should be in the "intense dislike" category.

Day 20 - the next book you plan to read:
Trader's Leap - Sharon Lee and Steve Miller The newest in the Liaden Universe series.

Day 21 - your favorite retelling of another story:

From The Illiad and The Odyssey respectively
The Song of Achilles - Madeline Miller
Circe - Madeline Miller.

Thanks Fran, I will check Walmart out on my next trip.

rosemarykaye

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« Reply #22249 on: March 05, 2021, 09:35:26 AM »
Barb: I have a book called Apricots on the Nile that doesn’t look too miserable! (I haven’t read it yet.)

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« Reply #22250 on: March 05, 2021, 02:56:14 PM »
Rosemary I'm having second considerations about Apricots in Bloom - the subject matter is not where I am at these days - looking up Apricots on the Nile I think I will enjoy it far more - wrapping yourself into a community through cooking the local foods sounds like a winner to me. Here is the Amazon link

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=apricots+on+the+nile&i=stripbooks&crid=2PUJYCBENBIFQ&sprefix=apricot%2Cstripbooks%2C220&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_4_7

I'm thinking Apricots must connect the Arab community - one book on the Nile and the other in Iraq

Still receive weekly Real Estate News and this week the Insurance companies gave stats that the winter storm initiated more claims than any other major weather disaster in the State - far more than Harvey that was in the national news for days - folks are now in tears and sick over the loss of landscaping - beautiful lush gardens dead - notice a few green leaves on the very bottom and inside the growth of a clump of Nandina and the deer just gobbled them up this morning - in fact they are desperate - the younger one has been in the yard every day during and after the storm and today an older one came looking for whatever she could find and then chased, running hard the younger one out of the yard - I bet the older one is pregnant where I doubt the younger one is since it appears to be from the births last Spring or at most the Spring before last.
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #22251 on: March 05, 2021, 03:03:35 PM »
How sad about the gardens Barb, and even sadder about the poor deer.

I hope you enjoy Apricots on the Nile.

I knew I had also read about a book with raspberries in the title! -

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1138882.Raspberries_on_the_Yangtze

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« Reply #22252 on: March 07, 2021, 10:39:04 AM »
:) I feel healthier just for reading about all this fruit!!

Oui used to make those small lovely little containers in a set of 6? of the tiny little glass jars with salted caramel in the bottom. I am a caramel fool.  I  used to devour them and as a result have all these cute little jars but unfortunately no longer do preserves and canning. They can join the boxes of other canning supplies in the barn. (I might take it back up someday. hahaaha) I just discovered Caramello bars by  Cadbury in the supermarket last week. Hog heaven!


Day 20 - the next book you plan to read:

My planning and my execution are two different things. I have a Quarantine Pile here. Literally. Waiting are The Dig, The Bachelor Brothers Bed and Breakfast, The Sanatorium,  The Man of High Estate, the new Caesar biography, all in quarantine,   like all my other new books, waiting.  Waiting for the magic and mysterious day they are finally free of The Last Person Who Packed Them While Sneezing on Them With Covid. Maybe the Brazilian or African strain. They are hard to wash.

 I know that sounds stupid. But two weeks from now, having had my 2nd Covid vaccine shot last Thursday,  I will not have to Lysol everything Suspect From the Outside I touch in my own home  and I can't get much pleasure out of washing my hands every time I touch a new book. So two weeks from now those books will be in my  hands.

Till then I am reading for the upteenth time Bill Bryson's The Road to Little Dribbling. What a joy that man is.  This morning we were in London, in  Marks and Spencer and talking to a clerk about the fact they had removed the food halls there. The clerk was not helpful and he had gelled hair which Bryson took an intense  dislike to, that,  and the fact he was rude. Finally when the clerk said they had never had a food hall in that store,  Bryson said well excuse me but you are an idiot.  I have been coming here to M&S  since the '70s to the food hall. And at that the clerk took interest and said this is H&M.   hahahaa

And that right there made my day, because it encapsulates us all in one brief couple of sentences.  hahahhaaaaaaaaaaaa

I am SO sorry he has stopped writing but he's good the upteenth time around, too.


Day 18 - the last book(s) you bought:
All of the above and more.  Waiting like we all are.


Day 19 - a book you thought was over-rated:  The Seven Sisters by  Margaret Drabble. Perhaps I was in a bad mood.

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On the gardening front the weather here is glorious, in the 50's and 60's and was in the 70's last week but too cold at night.  Just got a shipment of daylilies  for the new bed. I am determined to keep the weeds out this year.   At Home Depot, I could not resist  giant snapdragons, (I know, I know) but they are branched, each one is like four huge plants,  and glorious but am having to bring them IN at night due to the 20 degree night temps. Tiresome. They don't want 20 degrees while still in pots, so I have a couple more nights to do this lugging about.

I am finding that if one just forces self to get out there AND dig when something new comes,   there is no burden when the next shipment comes (surely they are going to stop, I must have been on some kind of spree there back in the fall). Everything newly planted looks alive, which is good. hahaaha That's pretty much all I can hope for, thumb is not GREEN.


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« Reply #22253 on: March 08, 2021, 02:09:33 AM »
Took a long long nap after working in the yard for a couple of hours - I was surprised how much of the dead Creeping Star Jasmin and the white Gaura just pulled up. I think I may have cut back too far on the Rosemary - I'm reading how the stems can still have life and cut the dead off then use household white glue at the cut - I've loads more to cut so I think I will be less sever cutting what remains but for sure the Texas and Mexican Sage were completely gone so both were cut to the ground - did not pull out below ground so maybe if there is any life something will shoot out - the sun was warm but a pretty strong cool breeze - I probably should have worn a hat but once started I just keep going - Didn't even shower when I came in - a sandwich, no coffee made and I was too done in to make any and so I had some green veggie drink and under the covers I went for hours. When I woke up the day was gone - for a few minutes didn't know if it was early morning or just after sundown. Still not 100% and will probably not do much tomorrow - what I should do tomorrow is make a big pot of soup or stew then freeze it in meal size containers so that I can have something hot when I come in after a stint cleaning up.

Again, and it appears all week, nothing on PBS except 70s concerts or a more recent concert with groups from the 70s, one after the other - Carole King, Johnny Cash, the BeeJees on and on - not even a movie to break it up - for the entire week including next weekend - and there just has not been anything on the other stations so the TV is off and books it is...

And Tra la - came across this wonderful read by Carole Bumpus - it was a suggestion in my daily BookBup - downloaded the excerpt Amazon provides and was hooked - Searching for Family and Traditions at the French Table, Book One (Champagne, Alsace, Lorraine, and Paris regions) (The Savoring the Olde Ways Series)   More travel log and French History but history related to real families who had ancestors that lived through events we seldom hear about however, very important to French History like the plight of coal miners after WWII told by the grown children of these miners - not much different than the earlier story of coal miners Germinal by Zola - Also things like how they still celebrate the feast of Joan of Arc, with all its history in Reims.

Very best is her writing style - she has an ease that is so homey it is as if talking to a neighbor rather than an author telling us something we should know about or explaining the story as if someone looking in rather than being a part of it - if you put it in cooking show terms she writes like Julia Child cooks in her TV kitchen.

The families she visits not only share their beloved meals but how they learned to cook the meal, the preparation is described, the wine that is served and how it all relates to their family - You can feel the ease as they cook together and start their evening with wine by the fire, talking of family events - I'm loving this and after reading the free Sample, not only decided on purchasing this book but the sequel as well, Searching for Family and Traditions at the French Table: Book Two Nord-Pas-de-Calais, Normandy, Brittany, Loire and Auvergne: Savoring the Olde Ways
“A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” ~ Goethe

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« Reply #22254 on: March 08, 2021, 06:41:46 AM »
Today, I will be starting Trader's Leap and my latest library download, The Manuscript Found at Saragossa, a novel by Count Jan Potocki who lived 1761-1815.

Potocki was something of an adventurer. He served twice in the Polish Army as a Caption of Engineers, was the first person from Poland to ride in a hot air balloon, and wrote about his many travels in Europe, Asia and North Africa. He established a publishing house in Warsaw and opened the first free reading room there, among other things.


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« Reply #22255 on: March 08, 2021, 09:52:03 AM »
Well, I finished the #28Dayreadingchallenge, and here are my final books:

Day 26: favourite fiction book.

Well this is nigh on impossible, but here are some:

Elizabeth Jane Howard: the Cazalet Chronicles
RC Sherriff: The Fortnight in September
Kenneth Grahame: The Wind in the Willows
Barbara Pym: Excellent Women

Day 27: favourite non-fiction book

Almost as difficult as Day 26; I could happily choose any of the NF books I’ve used already, but instead I’ll go with A Stranger on the Bars, the memoir of Christian Watt Marshall of Broadsea, Fraserburgh

Day 28: a book you hope to read this year

Lots.  But here are some:

Dara McAnulty: Diary of a Young Naturalist (pub: Little Toller)
Jane Oliver: Business as Usual (pub: Handheld Press)
Andrew Cotter: Olive, Mabel & Me (pub: Black & White Publishing

And many, many more!

If I haven’t mentioned them before, I can recommend the YouTube videos that Andrew Cotter makes with his dogs Olive & Mabel - they are very funny indeed. Just search for ‘Olive and Mabel’. They’ve become internet stars, but there is no silly dressing up of dogs or other such nonsense involved.  Andrew Cotter can make it hilarious without anything like that.

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« Reply #22256 on: March 08, 2021, 11:41:35 AM »
Day 26: favorite fiction book.

In Science Fiction:
 Agent of Change - Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
 Halo: The Fall of Reach - Eric Nylund
 Way Station - Clifford D. Simak
 Remnant Population - Elizabeth Moon
 AMPed - Daniel H. Wilson
 Old Man's War - John Scalzi

The rest:
 Jane Eyre - Jane Austen
 The Templar Legacy - Steve Berry
 Ysabel - Guy Gavriel Kay
 People of the Book - Geraldine Brooks

Day 27: favorite non-fiction book

 People of the Deer - Farley Mowat
 Two Years Before the Mast - Richard Henry Dana, Jr.
 Seven Pillars of Wisdom - T. E. Lawrence
 The Gardner's Bug Book, Fourth Edition (1973) - Cynthia Westcott Yes, I know it isn't up to date, but it is my go to bug book anyway.

Day 28: a book you hope to read this year
Aside from the two I just listed my last post
 The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise - Dario Fernandez-Morera
 Monsoon Mansion: A Memoir - Cinelle Barnes
 Alliance Space - C. J. Cherryh
  At least start on Tony Dunbar's Tubby Dubonnet crime mystery series
 Man of High Empire: The LIfe of Pliny the Younger - Roy K. Gibson
 Mithridates the Great: Rome's Indomitable Enemy - Philip Matyszak

And, of course, more....

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« Reply #22257 on: March 08, 2021, 03:44:44 PM »
Oh goodness I need to play catch up - first let me finish the few preceding day 26 and then finish up...

Day 22 - a favourite anthology:

A Thousand Years of Irish Poetry by Hoagland
She Had Some Horses by Joy Harjo

Day 23 - book(s) from your favourite genre:

Just choosing a favorite genre would be a trick and a half - there are some authors whose voice I like to hear and others who matter less because it is their information I'm seeking - Ok let's do Children's books - they are wonderful when you need a lift and some I cannot imagine being without...

The Singing Tree - The Good Master - Kate Seredy
Mary Poppins - Mary Poppins Opens the Door - Mary Poppins Comes Back - P.L.Travers
The Wind in the Willows - Kenneth Grahame
The Willows in Winter -Toad Triumphant - The Willows Beyond - The Willows at Christmas - William Horwood
Must have Heidi and a Child's Garden of Versus and Treasure Island and The Railway Children and Jan Brett's The Mitten
Oh and Robin Hood and The Count of Monte Christo and The Little House series and Captains Courageous also, The Yearling and East of the Sun and West of the Moon

So many more that if I'm really down I can turn to...

Day 24 - the strangest book(s) you've ever read:

Alice in Wonderland and it left a bad taste in my mouth - read it for various groups and I never did like it...everytime I think of it the story gets crazier and crazier...

Day 25: book(s) that remind you of home:

Actually the one I'm reading now...  Searching for Family and Traditions at the French Table, Book One (Champagne, Alsace, Lorraine, and Paris regions) (The Savoring the Olde Ways Series) by Carole Bumpus

Day 26: favorite fiction book.

Evangeline by Longfellow
The Rising of the Moon by William Martin
Queen Lucia and Miss Mapp by E. F. Benson
Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murakami
The Ponder Heart by Eudora Welty

Day 27: favorite non-fiction book

The Travels of Marco Polo - written down by Rustichello da Pisa
The Buried Mirror: Reflections on Spain and the New World by Carolos Fuentes
Ascent Of Mount Carmel by ST. John of the Cross
Ceremony by Leslie Marmon Silko

Day 28: a book you hope to read this year

Tepper Isn't Going Out: A Novel by Calvin Trillin
Belfast Diary: War as a Way of Life by John Conroy
The Trinity: An Introduction to Catholic Doctrine on the Triune God by Gilles Emery
First Principles: What America's Founders Learned from the Greeks and Romans and How That Shaped Our Country by Thomas E. Ricks
The Gifts of the Jews (Hinges of History) by Thomas Cahill

I think that is it... whew really had me thinking for a bit - what books could I not do without - to pick one in these categories is just about impossible. 
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« Reply #22258 on: March 08, 2021, 03:51:52 PM »
hmm looked it up -  The Templar Legacy - Steve Berry sounds interesting - in fact several of his titles sound interesting - appears he must take history and write a novel using these bits of history
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« Reply #22259 on: March 08, 2021, 03:56:36 PM »
looked up on Amazon Ysabel - Guy Gavriel Kay and where I was not taken with it on the page was Spirit of the Mist: Romance & High Fantasy in Ancient Ireland (The Celtic Journeys Series) by Janeen O'Kerry that sounds more like my cup of tea -
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« Reply #22260 on: March 08, 2021, 04:06:36 PM »
another interesting book that reminds me of today - without warning our lives changed - one day we are living out our ordinary day and the next we are in quick succession wearing masks, social distancing and sequestered in our homes having little to do with neighbors and shop keepers - this book written in 1931 must have been the same, no drama vacation before the world went mad. The Fortnight in September by R. C. Sherriff
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« Reply #22261 on: March 08, 2021, 05:10:55 PM »
Barb, The Templar Legacy is based on a real place, real people, and a real legend/mystery. I had such fun researching the area and the people. The church/monastery is, in fact, a popular tourist attraction.

I remember reading Evangeline in high school. I think it was for English class. While it didn't stir me much (back then I was not at all interested in poetry), an old book I read a few years back, which I downloaded from Project Gutenberg, gave a history of the Acadians in Canada. The Acadians originally settled in parts of Maine, Quebec, New Brunswick, and Nova Scotia. I can't remember the exact name of the book or the author right now.

It looks like I missed 22 through 25. I'll get to that tomorrow, if I remember.

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« Reply #22262 on: March 08, 2021, 11:38:51 PM »
Yes, for us it was 8th grade but oh oh so romantic - especially compared to Miles Standish that we also read in either 7th or 8th grade - looked again at the Steve Berry Templar book and stumbled on a free book by Berry that I downloaded - The 14th Colony which is the 11th book in his series.

Saw part of the interview online and then read Piers Morgan's opinion of the Meghan Harry interview - for an American she was awfully worried if her boy would be a prince - Found the whole thing silly - Its not like she grew up with the lifestyle of the ultra wealthy and yet, she does go on doesn't she...

Most disconcerting supper experience tonight - wanted something easy I could cook in the microwave and thought I would, as I have in the past, combine a sweet potato with a white potato by cooking them first cut in half then cutting both up together and adding some frozen peas on the side for another shot in the micro wave - well first I looked and checked and yep, the shape was correct and the skin color was not that of a white potato but not as deep as either a typical Yam or a Sweet Potato and sure enough, when I cut it open it was a 'white' sweet potato - all I can say is, never again - evidently the color has something to do with its sweetness and this was anything but sweet - to counter the sweetness is why I always cook them with a white potato cut or mashed together - to me this almost tasted metallic - at least I had some applesauce to add to the plate and each fork full of potato had on the fork a few peas and some applesauce to make it palatable. Went back to look at my order to see what it said so I never repeat this experience but there was no photo of the potato cut open and the description said nothing - from now on I think I will only order a Yam to be sure the flesh is at least yellow if not orange.

And then important to me - when filling out our favorite this and that book I forgot - one of my all time favorite Novels needs to be added to what turned into a list - A Gentleman in Moscow - so often I've remembered scenes in that story or I look up a quote - can't say it would replace any book I've already included but it just has to be added.  Last I heard a Canadian Company is producing it as a series - a limited series, to be 6-8 hours in length in total according to author Amor Towles and Kenneth Branaugh will produce and star in the series as Count Alexander Rostov. - After all of us being sequestrated because of Covid this story on screen will have even a greater impact.

I've often thought, usually when I cannot get to sleep but I'm in bed for the night, what would I quick take with me if all of a sudden I had to leave and move into a one room situation - come to think it is probably what many elders must do who are moving into some sort of assistant living - but that to me is worse because most who are making that move do not have the physical ability any longer to roam around and find all the nooks and crannies in the building where their room is located.

We sure could use a good period movie or series with great actors - this has been a very long year.
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« Reply #22263 on: March 09, 2021, 07:51:07 AM »
Day 22 - a favorite anthology:
 Invisible Planets: An Anthology of Contemporary Chinese Science Fiction in Translation - Ken Liu, Translator

Day 23 - book(s) from your favorite genre:
 Just off the top of my head, some of my favorite stand-alone books in Science Fiction
  Agent to the Stars and Fuzzy Nation - John Scalzi
  AMPed - Daniel H. Wilson
  Sand and The Shell Collector - Hugh Howey
  Eternity Road - Jack McDevitt
  Way Station - Clifford D. Simik
I think I've listed all of them before.

Day 24 - the strangest book(s) you've ever read:
 The Quantum Thief and it's sequels, The Fractal Prince and The Causal Angel - Hannu Rajaniemi
followed by:
 Alastair Reynold's Revelation Space series
 Iain M. Banks' Culture Wars Series

Day 25: book(s) that remind you of home: none

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« Reply #22264 on: March 10, 2021, 05:36:33 PM »
I've started The Manuscript Found at Saragossa, It is not what I expected, but so far is interesting. Instead of a real manuscript being found, it is a novel in which the manuscript is found. The manuscript is subsequently translated for the soldier that found it, and here the real stories begin. The chapters are headed Day 1, Day 2, etc. and each relate a different tale. an Ian Maclean,  the translator of this novel, likens it somewhat  to Decameron, and the like, where people gather and swap tales or adventures with the others.

At the Edge of Uncertainty  by  Michael Brooks is well worth reading if you are interested in various technology advancements from medical advances (including work with antibiotics and genes), to advances in  computing, physics and space. It includes a chapter on the new(ish) theories that we are not real, but are more akin to a holographic computer simulation, or some-such.  It is not hard to follow and you do not need to be grounded in physics to follow those bits. Aside from scientists we already know, the book introduces us  to some whose experiments and insights were ignored or criticized but who were proved right, some times much later. I am still listening to my audio book, so who knows were it will go next. I have five chapter to listen to next. Here is a brief review of the book by Publisher's Weekly.  https://www.publishersweekly.com/978-1-4683-1059-7

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« Reply #22265 on: March 11, 2021, 07:23:58 AM »
Ran a cross this book this morning. It might be worth a read. Lightning Flowers by Katherine E. Standefer https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/katherine-e-standefer/lightning-flowers/9780316450355/ Part memoir, part investigation into the making of a medical device, and part questions of ethical philosophy.

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« Reply #22266 on: March 11, 2021, 01:09:30 PM »
Her concern - "What if a lifesaving medical device causes loss of life along its supply chain?" may not be too far off - last week I saw an interview, forgot her name - she is one of the top doctors at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center.  She and a few other doctors were saying the two step Covid shot is a problem - they see the second shot as having, and they named but I'm not the least bit medical - anyhow the concern is that if there is another round of Covid and you get it after having had the shots that are not permanent - there is something that blocks - oh I do not remember but the end of their explanation is there is a 90% chance you would die.

I'm vaguely remembering something about, until they have given some large number of shots - I forgot the number but many 100s of thousands, they cannot say it is 'the' preventive treatment - something about most getting shots now are part of that initial number of trials.

Anything surrounding Covid right now I do not know what to believe any longer - so much direct conflicting information and all being given by respected Doctors - it has all become so politicized - however, from the author of the book it sounds like there is concern for loss of life from all researched medicine.

frybabe is that what the book is saying as you read?
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« Reply #22267 on: March 11, 2021, 02:55:43 PM »
That is a new one on me, Barb. I hadn't heard that concern about the COVID shots.

I have not read or ordered Lightning Flowers yet. I may or may not do so in the future. The author and her sister both have a congenital heart condition. She has an implant device to help regulate it. Her implant went nuts and she had to get it fix/replaced. That is what got her started on researching all that goes into making medical devices including mining the materials needed to manufacture them. So, she looked into mining, mining illnesses and accidents, displacement of people because of the mining, manufacturing accidents and illness from handling dangerous substances, and so on.

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« Reply #22268 on: March 11, 2021, 03:10:12 PM »
Yes I only read how Lithium is 'the' mineral now that is driving world powers to buy up land - and I was also shocked to learn that actually Solar is no more earth friendly than oil with all the products needed to make solar panels.
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« Reply #22269 on: March 11, 2021, 04:05:25 PM »
 On the vaccines, I'd have to see a link to that source, but for my money, I'd much rather chance that statistic which I have never seen,  than not be vaccinated and be one of the people who  did not get the vaccine and  then  gets the Coronavirus.  I don't want the clots that  people have unfortunately gotten as a result of the Coronavirus, which are all over the body  in some people even when you do  recover.

90 percent of Americans apparently have not been vaccinated. THAT means that the rest of us who want to travel somewhere will seriously be thwarted because THEY, those not vaccinated,  also will want to exercise  their rights to travel and the countries of entry naturally are extending their rights  to keep them out. Countries overseas are not fooling around with their entry specifications and regulations like we are.  So we all have to pay.


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« Reply #22270 on: March 11, 2021, 05:40:44 PM »
Goodness Ginny I really do not lie - as I said I believe the issue has been politicized and as fast as any news is posted other than the official government version it is quickly removed - as to getting or not the vaccine there are legitimate concerns - as to the 90% you would have to take into consideration the pace they are making them available - it is only this week that those in our area over the age of 65 can even sign up to receive their shots and most of those who received their first shot have been unable after waiting 45 days to receive the second shot - this is an issue that our City Council members update us on our neighborhood facebook pages and so I think anyone who is suggesting the nation is not behind the shots is using the current status to make another point that suggests an unwillingness which is part of how I see this issue having a life of its own that falls into the category of politics. To be fair the numbers of people who have died from the shot which last number I read was over 1600 are not being published except in those sites where it is not the feature so that it is not removed as quickly -

I hear your concern and my daughter has the same concern about traveling - my son's only protection is keeping his immune system as healthy as he can and wearing masks because his work involved subcontractors who regularly hire migrants who are not tested and they know those who are tested a quarter have Covid and so they have not been visiting me - my daughter in law did get her shots - although she is not currently teaching she is on the books as a teacher.

Since I have not left the house or my yard since last November and have no reason to - don't know why I keep paying car insurance - anyhow with grocery delivery I do not have a reason to leave and therefore, I'm observing what I read and as I said, I am astounded at the dichotomy offered by professionals who seem to be sharing their sincere and best informat6ion - most of us can only have our opinion since we are not scientists or in the medical profession - the over-all stats showing the percentage of those who contracted Covid and those who died is encouraging -

Another doctor I listened to explained any communal illness is harsher at first but it mutates and becomes less lethal with time - maybe, and this is me saying maybe, with all the science instead Covid will no longer be a threat as it becomes less lethal till finally it no longer would be life threatening.

Personally I still do not know what to do... I became progressively more ill each flu shot till I finally years ago stopped altogether and only learned the mixture is grown in a egg protein -I'm allergic to eggs so who knows it may have been the eggs - then I heard a couple of weeks ago the Covid vaccine from the two current pharmaceutical companies also grow the vaccine in an egg emulsion - also I have lung issue that keeps me from taking lots of meds including any mycin as well as penicillin and so I am leery of most prescription meds -

I was going to wait since I had heard good things about the Johnson and Johnson shot but now they are having holes shot into their vaccine - although now we are told none of the shots are vaccines but forgot what we are supposed to call them - anyhow, others may feel certain but I do not and will wait - I can die one of two ways - not have the shot and risk getting Covid and then risk dying or get the shot and risk dying - becoming sterile noted by some after the 2nd shot of course does not worry me - it sounds to me like I can walk into the risk or wait and see if the risk finds me and hope I can walk past the risk by keeping the Vitamin C. D, Zinc and quinine in my daily routine -

The quinine was easier than I though - it is an ingredient in the tablet for leg cramps I take each night before bed.  Plus so many have forgotten we learned last year how the sun kills Covid within various time frames according to the surface materials of the item and so, with summer coming there should be less of a threat and then maybe along with a less lethal virus and more heard immunity we will all be able to breath a sigh of relief.     
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« Reply #22271 on: March 11, 2021, 06:29:04 PM »
My 2 cents...there are too many cases of misinformation being touted by “experts” who are really out to misinform and harm Americans....from foreign sites like Russia to conspiracy believers like Q  anon believers, etc. 

I’m listening to Dr. Fauci...a recognized authority.  One doesn’t graduate first in his class at Cornell Medical School and hold his job at NIH if he isn’t “the real deal.”  I also trust my local Medical providers and those at the University. 

I have no interest in Dr. Simone Gold and her alien demon sperm, etc.  and her participation in the insurrection.  There are any number of these  strange ones ...Dr. Atlas, Dr. Rand Paul, etc.

I’ve had one shot and look forward to my second one.  My brother-in-law spent 5 days in the hospital with covid.  He was eager to get the shots.

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« Reply #22272 on: March 11, 2021, 06:57:59 PM »
Jane who is Dr. Simon Gold - never heard of him - I'm not 100% with Dr. Fauci after learning he set up the research in the lab in China - but then it has become so political - I know you do not agree with my politics but that used to be just a disagreement - now folks are really upset when talking to someone with whom they do not agree - that to me is really sad it also suggests that there can be selective listening just as social media now is allowing other viewpoints from qualified people to be removed if the information is not in agreement with their viewpoint - all over a dangerous illness - not only sad but worrisome. I see Covid as too new an illness to only take one viewpoint - some may get horrible medical news and be satisfied with the doctor who gave them the diagnosis and others will go for additional tests and seek more information - on this one that is where I am - seeking more information -

I hear many new medical concepts including a Doctor who lives on the next street who says masks are only helpful if they are 95 something (they look like gas masks) and says it is common that medical staff tease about holding their breath in the elevators although, he says it is not a joke and he would rather be 25 feet away from another than 6 feet away with a mask - Dr. Thomas Coopwood, MD is a Critical Care Surgery Specialist in Austin and has over 58 years of experience in the medical field.  He graduated from Baylor University medical school in 1963.  He is affiliated with Dell Seton Medical Center at The University of Texas - him I know and have great respect for both Dell Seton and UT.

We do not know how often what we read. see on TV or on Social Media is political theater and certainly Fauci is on the political stage and so I cannot just listen to him - we are all still understanding and uncovering Covid - even Fauci admits to that
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« Reply #22273 on: March 11, 2021, 09:46:28 PM »
Barb, I read where there are NO Eggs in either the Pfizer or Moderna Vaccines.
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« Reply #22274 on: March 11, 2021, 09:47:28 PM »
Political Theatre is certainly widespread, and seems to cover a myriad of points of view.  I do not doubt Dr. Fauci, but I find Dr.Gold... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_Gold

and Houston doctor Dr, Immanuel     https://www.thedailybeast.com/stella-immanuel-trumps-new-covid-doctor-believes-in-alien-dna-demon-sperm-and-hydroxychloroquine 

to strain my credulity that are worthy of my trust. 

Political theatre lately has me wondering, as perhaps it does many of us, how some of these lawyers, doctors, and politicians we see in the news, ever graduated and passed licensing boards. 

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« Reply #22275 on: March 11, 2021, 11:33:01 PM »
thanks sharing link to Dr. Gold - she is a new one for me - and her organization American Frontline Doctors is also new to me - but then it said the organization was supported by the Tea Party group and I had not ever associated with them -

I've been a third generation Dem but found the party so changed and not at all the party I knew back years ago - my big concern was after reading on the UN web site and learning about both Agenda 21 and Agenda  2030 - reading about Globalism and those who support that view of our world along with, hearing and seeing the daily news from a reporter in Tijuana Mexico and another from Chiappa Mexico, who both felt their president abandoned the poor of Mexico, (over a third of the Mexican population) when he signed the Global Compact on Migration that promises health care, housing, schooling, jobs to all migrants -

Learning and reading about all that floored, heart stopping floored me and so I wanted to support whomever was going to keep the US a sovereign nation without succumbing to the UN Constitution above our own that I saw the UN Constitution did not include the 'pursuit of happiness' or a promise of 'opportunity'.

And yes, I liked that he was a business man - did I like his mannerisms - no - but then to me it did not matter - rather a crude man who had a fight on his hands and would keep us a sovereign nation while increasing the financial well being of those who had been left out and for sure, after hearing Obama, who I liked and supported but it was deflating hearing him say in those last years of his presidency that the financial picture for the average middle class family was as good as it was going to get.

After seeing the devastation to families who lost their homes because of the banks use of money I cared little about the man's personality or the personalities of those who were in and out of the administration's drama  - I knew nothing for instance about General Flynn till it was all over and the same with many others and obviously did not know Simone Gold - never did listen to Rush Limbaugh who many elevate him to sainthood since his sad death - 

What does still haunt me is a women who I could not help her save her family home that they had owned since 10 years after the Civil War, paid for but when equity mortgages became legal in Texas she borrowed against the equity to send her oldest son to collage and then because of the financial crisis the property decreased so in value the note was more than the new valuation of the property and she lost it all - 150 years of family ownership - yes, a Black Family - today where her home stood there is a Condo complex priced to cater to young nerds with 6 figure incomes - progress  :'(

So those are my issues - I have no desire to get into partisan bickering nor am I about showing the difference between party viewpoints or about personalities in politics - like most of us I want information -

Here of late getting information seems to be full of political hot buttons so we avoid and change the subject - but if we, who've known and respected each other for years can't talk about our concerns without needing consensus or initiating a political spitting match then where are we... we simply do not agree about outcomes and how to attain those outcomes - that is all - We are all safe, we have our home, family, food on the table, books to read, electricity to power our life, our kids are not living on the streets - we are all grateful to have this site with friends to share our questions, experiences and love of books. 
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« Reply #22276 on: March 12, 2021, 07:40:00 AM »
I share your concerns about Globalization, Barb. While I can see some advantages, it is mostly for the benefit of the international companies especially in trade and financial regulations. Breaking barriers in trade, health care systems, etc. can been advantageous. The other major players in pushing for globalization are political powers. I see them as mostly interested in defanging more powerful and wealthy nations in order to spread/steal the wealth.  Whichever way it goes, globalization or continued individual nations, I still see the power players and wealthy being at the top with the poor and those living and working far from the seats of power being ignored, not to mention my concerns about suppression of freedom and free speech. Globalization will not stop conflict, armed or otherwise. And to think we are about to spread all this out into the rest of the solar system. This is me being pessimistic.

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« Reply #22277 on: March 12, 2021, 10:33:51 AM »
 Barbara, the N95 mask does NOT look like a "gas mask," it looks like the others. I have 3 here, given to me by a student.

I have physicians in my face to face classes (political leanings unknown) who are well respected  and who all have had the shots, one of whom sternly urged me to "keep trying" to get an appointment.  My 4 classes on zoom  were Covid Shot Central as the members of the various classes helped with their information to spread the word to those who did not know (thanks to one person in the 1:30 class whose tennis club seemed remarkably informed),  which clinic  that day was taking walk ins and where you could go, because of the lack of organization of the  providers originally, and the impossibility here of scheduling a shot initially. I STILL have not heard from ANY of the people I originally registered with. Not a word.

I know of 9 instances as a result where people were able to get the shot, who could not otherwise get an appointment,  or who were able to take elderly parents without iphones and internet, who would not have otherwise had that opportunity. Perhaps that's 9 lives saved, and I think there are more.

My oldest son, in this area where nobody thinks it's necessary to wear a mask,  has become a believer as he has 44 people out with it now in his work, several of whom are  hospitalized.

Who was it on TV last week, Dr. Hoetz of Baylor College of Medicine,  saying "Beware the Ides of March?" Predicting a new Covid surge.

I guess as long as people persist in thinking not me, I'm different,  this will continue forever. Talking about we all have to die, what about the quality of life if you don't?  I know two people who thought they were different.  They don't now,  as they've both had Coronavirus with lingering consequences. MAJOR consequences which will seriously  affect the quality of their lives from now on.

Why go through that? Or smallpox? Or whooping cough? Or polio if there is something that can stop it or at the very least allow you to live a more normal life as a result?



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« Reply #22278 on: March 12, 2021, 02:40:37 PM »
Maybe that is it Ginny - we all have a different experience and therefore we each take a different path - I'm scared to death of putting any western medicine in my body - have been for years because of some really bad experiences and so if I do not understand how a medicine works and what the ingredients are and if I can then find a natural substitute I will. And yes, there was a neighbor up the street who died from Covid.

However, what is more confusing is we have now, and that is a story in itself because most of not from Austin but we now have thousands of homeless taking over all the parks and underpasses to all the highways. There was a large piece of acreage with shelter offered where they could have all sorts of help from hot showers to food to medical assistance and job locators but the homeless complained it was too far away for them to easily ride their (stolen) bikes to locations in town where they can panhandle - the money is then used on Drugs -

Anyhow there were NO cases of Covid among the homeless who live cheek to jowl using the streets and sidewalks for their bathrooms - Something is not adding up - what, I do not know - it is the elephant in the room - my gut says that last summer the information was how the sun killed the virus within a very short time frame, less than a minute however, lingering longer on certain surfaces -

To follow that line of thinking means no more sequestering at least during pleasant weather and no need for a money earning vaccine program - instead we would have needed to be in the sun and use the technology that produces the affects of sun and for sure our children could have classes in schoolyards except in the brutal part of winter which would completely alter the school year dates - but any different then their way of learning was altered in order to accommodate living sequestered at home.

Anyhow neither here nor there - my concern is having some bad experiences that had me very very ill, once for over a week from meds that most can tolerate not only with ease but they are actually made well again - with that history I look differently at solutions and yes, if I notice a dichotomy within the current solution adapted by most, I then follow it to better understand.

I also see Covid as something to clean up regardless who caused what - it is like there was a party and time for clean up and those cleaning are making it into a drama blaming this one or that one for various messes - I don't care, I just want it cleaned up and if the vacuum is jammed then let's get it fixed and in the meantime let's tackle the rest of the clean up - if someone has a way they think will clean the mess faster, then fine, share it but others may have their own rhythm - all that matters is the mess is cleaned up...

As to the mask Ginny - nephew's wife is a nurse at Scott and White - she emailed a photo of herself wearing one and what I saw was a white mask, thicker and more formed to the face than most wear in public, that went tightly from the bridge of the nose to under the chin and on one cheek side was about a 2 plus inch round black disk like apparatus that could be turned to allow more or less ventilation. So overkill saying gas mask but then I frankly had no other words to describe the apparatus - 

Anyhow, thanks Ginny for your concern for all of us who visit here and are a part of the library conversation -  I just know we all wish each other the best to be as safe as we can be - We probably do not have all the questions much less answers - my guess is we will be finding out more and more about not only Covid but its mutations and of course the ways to protect ourselves from vaccines to other solutions. 

And on a fun note - you would not believe - today the humidity is so high along with temps in the mid 80s I could not take it any longer and yep, the AC is turned on - a short few weeks ago history making freezing weather and today the AC is blaring away... 
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« Reply #22279 on: March 12, 2021, 04:53:00 PM »
I understand, Barbara. But you'll have to let the "homeless" thing go, it's not true. https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/false-perception-of-covid-19s-impact-on-the-homeless/


Debunking False Stories
False Perception of COVID-19’s Impact on the Homeless

By Isabella Fertel

Posted on May 18, 2020

Quick Take

Viral posts suggest that COVID-19 can’t be a serious disease if it hasn’t “wiped out the homeless.” But recent reports published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have found high rates of homeless residents testing positive for the novel coronavirus, known as SARS-CoV-2.
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As the total number of COVID-19 cases in the U.S. surpassed 1.4 million, including more than 89,000 deaths, in mid-May, viral memes misleadingly suggest that if COVID-19 was “so deadly,” it would have a devastating effect on the homeless population.

One frequently shared post, which uses a photo of actor Heath Ledger in his role as the Joker, states: “IF THE CORONAVIRUS IS SO DEADLY WHY HASN’T IT WIPED OUT THE HOMELESS.” It continues: “THEY LIVE OUTSIDE THERE IS NO SOCIAL DISTANCING AND THEY CAN’T WASH THEIR HANDS.”

One social media commenter added: “Yes the virus is real but it’s not as serious as they say it is, …”

A similar post on Facebook reads: “Serious question: How come we are not finding tens of thousands of homeless dead people in tents?” Other versions of the post ask the same question.

But the disease has indeed struck the homeless living on streets and in shelters throughout the U.S., and cases are likely to climb among this highly at-risk group.

A recent report published by the nonprofit National Alliance to End Homelessness projects that the homeless population in the U.S. “will be twice as likely to be hospitalized, two to four times as likely to require critical care, and two to three times as likely to die as the general population” as a result of the pandemic.

Actual numbers of how many homeless people have been infected or have died from COVID-19 are not known yet. “There’s an ad hoc nature to not just the response to this crisis just generally speaking, but with the data tracking,” Daniel Treglia, a co-author of the NAEH report, told us.

“Testing has been incredibly limited, and therefore the numbers are based on how many people are symptomatic, and we know those are understatements,” said Treglia, a post-doctoral fellow at the University of Pennsylvania’s School of Social Policy and Practice.

Reports by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that the pandemic has hit residents and workers in homeless shelters.

A CDC report on homeless shelters in four U.S. cities — Boston, Seattle, San Francisco and Atlanta — found that 25% of residents in 19 shelters tested positive for the novel coronavirus, known as SARS-CoV-2, from March 27 to April 15.

Another CDC report on three homeless service sites in Washington state concluded that “COVID-19 was diagnosed in 35 of 195 (18%) residents and eight of 38 (21%) staff members.” That report also noted that “COVID-19 can spread quickly in homeless shelters; rapid interventions including testing and isolation to identify cases and minimize transmission are necessary.”

News media across the country also have reported infections and coronavirus-related deaths among local homeless populations.

With 150,000 homeless people throughout the state, California has ramped up efforts to transport homeless individuals to hotel rooms, the Associated Press reported on April 18. San Francisco experienced an outbreak at a homeless shelter where more than 100 people tested positive, including 10 staff members, according to the AP story. More than 30 homeless people tested positive for COVID-19 in Los Angeles


Maybe Texas is not reporting a homeless person found dead as having died of the Coronavirus but they seem to be succumbing everywhere else.

And here's a report from January 21, 2021, month before last.

https://unitedwaynca.org/stories/effect-pandemic-homeless-us/

Still, that prevalence is especially high. According to the data from COVID-19 tests in 330(h) health centers, rates of COVID-19 among populations of people experiencing homelessness and other underserved populations are high. According to Johns Hopkins University’s Coronavirus Resource Center, the highest single 7-day rate of positive COVID tests for the entire United States population between the months of June and October was 7.8% (with the rate falling as low as 4.0% in that time). The National Health Care for the Homeless Council reported that COVID positivity rates for those experiencing homelessness feel in an average range of 9-12% for that same time period. Augmenting the general dangers presented by increased positivity rates among a given population, the CDC reports that since many people experiencing homelessness are often older adults or have underlying medical conditions, they may face even more severe illness due to COVID-19.